Joe Rinaudo Discusses the American Fotoplayer

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2012
  • Joe walks us through the basics of the American Fotoplayer explaining the instrument's capabilities and uses, as well as it's historical background.

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  • @joerinaudo6228
    @joerinaudo6228 9 років тому +590

    Hi, My Fotoplayer was one of the last to be built at the Van Nuys plant in 1926. Just before the American Photoplayer co. filed for bankruptcy. It was shipped up to a theater in Canada and was used until sound came in 1930.It was covered up (rather than thrown away) when a stage was built over and around it to support a larger screen. When the theater was demolished in 1971 it was found under the stage and purchased by a Canadian living in Anaheim California. I purchased it from him in unrestored original condition in 1973 and spent the next three years restoring it. Being sealed up under the stage for so long preserved it. So it was very complete as no one had the chance to steal anything off of it (kind of like King Tut)! I finally got it to play in July of 1976. I have enjoyed playing it ever since. Thanks for asking.

    • @jerelmani
      @jerelmani 8 років тому +19

      +Joe Rinaudo thanks for keeping yours going and keeping the art of playing this fascinating instrument alive.
      My question is, how much of the instrument is electric or electronic?

    • @joerinaudo6228
      @joerinaudo6228 8 років тому +24

      +jerelm Hi, The Fotoplayer uses very little in the realm of electric devices. The blower for the organ pipes to speak and vacuum device that creates suction for the piano to play are driven by electric motors. The only other electric devices in the Fotoplayer are the Police siren, Auto horn, door bell and the lamp over the spool box in the middle of the piano. The Fotoplayer predates the electronic era as I think all of the original electrical devices in the Fotoplayer are very primitive as compared to what I think electronic devices should be by today's standard. Great question. Thanks for asking!

    • @jerelmani
      @jerelmani 8 років тому +11

      Thanks for the reply Joe.
      It's a fascinating instrument I can only imagine how complex it was to build and to maintain. Must be some amazing craftsmanship in it.

    • @joerinaudo6228
      @joerinaudo6228 8 років тому +18

      +jerelm The Fotoplayer is truly a wonder of engineering. The Van Valkenberg brothers of Oakland Ca. first thought of making a mechanical piano-organ to narrate silent films in 1911. They were both inventors and had started a piano shop in 1910 where they rebuilt and manufactured mechanical pianos. The Fotoplayer was a natural for them to invent and has some of the highest quality of craftmanship I have ever seen. It took me 3 years to rebuild and it has been playing constantly since 1976. It actually requires very little maintenance. Thanks for enjoying! P.S. It's about time for a rebuild.

    • @jerelmani
      @jerelmani 8 років тому +7

      +Joe Rinaudo rebuild videos would be just as amazing as this machine (I reakon)

  • @SOENJAY
    @SOENJAY 4 роки тому +79

    "Do I get my dollar now?"
    Joe you've earned much more than a dollar!

  • @jackdelamare
    @jackdelamare 10 років тому +82

    Joe's a hero

  • @klksplsor
    @klksplsor 10 років тому +244

    This could be the mother of synthesizer.

    • @timitimit
      @timitimit 4 роки тому +8

      Of sampler ?

    • @staspastukh2005
      @staspastukh2005 4 роки тому +2

      @@timitimit Yes of course!

    • @jakedarmstadter6943
      @jakedarmstadter6943 3 роки тому +8

      Actually it was the pipe organ. But this is just a smaller version of a pipe organ.

    • @raymatthews4319
      @raymatthews4319 2 роки тому +2

      It sounds like part synthesizer, part Mellotron.

    • @KameariKillScreen
      @KameariKillScreen 2 роки тому +5

      After an argument with my wife I go down to the basement and wail on my American fotoplayer

  • @publicanimal
    @publicanimal 4 роки тому +87

    It's pretty cool to think about all the people who had jobs operating these things and all the myriad ways they must have engaged their individual imaginations to create unique performances.

    • @Predikant
      @Predikant 2 роки тому

      That's why Biden introduced his Stimulus Package.
      All those out of work Fotoplayer artists.

  • @yombie4287
    @yombie4287 10 років тому +127

    It's like an analogue sampler. O_O
    Midi hasn't a thing, compared to this American Fotoplayer.
    Amazing.

    • @michaelbauers8800
      @michaelbauers8800 9 років тому +5

      Shining Armor I assume you mean General MIDI. It's fairly competent, and does have a lot of these sounds, including gun shot. Lacks some of these effects I think, but did not compare them sound by sound. I think some of these are more impressive than your typical MIDI sound bank, but of course sound banks vary in quality.

    • @dopplerfox
      @dopplerfox 2 роки тому +1

      I see where you’re coming from, but conceptually a Mellotron would be closer to an analogue sampler

    • @ignore2466
      @ignore2466 2 роки тому

      @@shiningarmor2838 midi is just a language?

    • @Just_a_Piano_
      @Just_a_Piano_ Рік тому

      @@ignore2466 musical instrument digital interface, yeah its a language. just not the kind you speak lol. A computer language kinda like how python and c++ are languages

  • @garrettmeadows2273
    @garrettmeadows2273 2 роки тому +18

    I've been fascinated by "player pianos" ever since I was kid. My first experience with a "band player piano" was in Galveston 50 years ago. I put a quarter in one and I was entranced. That player piano literally shook the building.

  • @whitelion7976
    @whitelion7976 Рік тому +7

    Am a recycling artist and I just see such machine made of a keyboard and a load of good sounding objects. No idea this existed but it makes total sense. Thanks so much for show and tell.

  • @cariboocustomwoodworks6528
    @cariboocustomwoodworks6528 11 місяців тому +1

    What a machine. The operator had not only memorize all the mechanisms but had to be perfectly timed with the action in the film.

  • @stepno
    @stepno 4 роки тому +16

    This is one of the most joyful presentation I've seen about anything! Thank you Joe, and Joe's friend behind the camera!

  • @Bazzawombat
    @Bazzawombat 4 роки тому +7

    There is a working one being used by a very talented gentleman at the powerhouse museum in Sydney, Australia. It has a brilliant sound, you have to listen to it live, no hifi could ever match its sound or that unique timber smell.

  • @DuoArtOrgan
    @DuoArtOrgan 11 років тому +25

    Thank you Joe for your inspiration and for sharing your enthusiasm and knowledge so freely! I hope to get my Style 40 up and running one of these days. And a big thank you to cues80335 for taking the time to make these great videos available to us all.

    • @Ififitzisitz
      @Ififitzisitz Рік тому

      It’s so cool fotoplayers! I hope the majority of them get restored. Not being selfish of course though.

  • @michaelbauers8800
    @michaelbauers8800 9 років тому +7

    This is great history. I have never seen this before in spite of a life of being interested in such things. So happy to have discovered this.

  • @jtgazaway1617
    @jtgazaway1617 8 років тому +15

    This is a great video! I think Joe is about to get a little more famous because a video featuring him just hit Facebook and has been shared 28,000 times so far. I wish this machine could follow me around for a day. I've always wanted a soundtrack. :D

    • @joerinaudo6228
      @joerinaudo6228 8 років тому +4

      +JT Gazaway Hi, Thanks for the heads up on Facebook! The Fotoplayer has gone social media! Thanks for watching.

    • @lsrx101
      @lsrx101 7 років тому +1

      Haha, I'm here because of that video. What an spectacular instrument, I never knew they existed.
      I actually saw one of these in early 2016 at the Florida Flywheelers Club show, but thought it was something that someone had cobbled together from a player piano and other parts. There was no one around to offer information at the time. Since so few remain, perhaps you know of it?
      After watching the other videos, I don't know which is more impressive. The instrument itself, or your talent in playing it.

  • @Lucius1958
    @Lucius1958 11 років тому +8

    I had first seen pictures of a Fotoplayer in a Hathaway & Bowers catalog back in the '60s, and was fascinated by it. This is the first time I have ever seen and heard one in operation. It is simply amazing!

  • @Pioneers_Of_Cinema
    @Pioneers_Of_Cinema 10 місяців тому

    What a wonderful presentation of an extraordinary work of musical art and technology.

  • @amusical12
    @amusical12 Рік тому

    G’day Joe. This is fantastic. I recently put a video of my 1924 Schwechten Berlin Pianola on my channel, but this absolutely takes the cake. Thanks so very much for sharing this, you made my day 😘✌️

  • @wvsky
    @wvsky 11 місяців тому

    Amazing! I saw this mentioned on a documentary on TCM and just had to look it up. I'm glad I did.

  • @SergioMartorelli1968
    @SergioMartorelli1968 6 років тому +2

    What an interesting marvel of technology.

  • @keyofsteam2754
    @keyofsteam2754 7 років тому +1

    This is amazing! Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @davidsOO50
    @davidsOO50 10 років тому

    Fantastic. Thanks so much for posting this!

  • @AdmiralQuality
    @AdmiralQuality 9 років тому

    This is INCREDIBLE! Thanks so much for making this video!

  • @JojohnWick
    @JojohnWick 2 роки тому +1

    This must be very very expensive and rare too. Thanks mr Joe for sharing this masterpiece of music engineering

  • @unclelouie3828
    @unclelouie3828 7 років тому +1

    Great demo. Love it.

  • @billlowe6883
    @billlowe6883 5 років тому

    Thank you so much for posting this
    This is excellent.

  • @donr2176
    @donr2176 Рік тому

    Hi Joe, Enjoyed very much your American Fotoplayer videos.. Back in the 1980's I owned a 1922 Howard Piano with an Otto Higel Player motor; and over 250 rolls... My biggest regret is I sold it.. purely due to moving into a small apartment with no room for it.. Still miss playing it.

  • @cslevine
    @cslevine 10 років тому +2

    Very interesting to have restored this instrument, and showing the real playing on it today !

  • @ShowRyuKen
    @ShowRyuKen 2 роки тому

    Good, wholesome, informative and entertaining. Superb video! You knocked it out of the park with this. Hats off to Joe and everyone else involved in the making of the video - I feel I've learnt quite a few new things from watching it.

  • @fnersch3367
    @fnersch3367 3 роки тому

    What a wonderful piece of history. Thanks.

  • @EmDubification
    @EmDubification 10 років тому

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge of a great, old instrument. I really am enjoying these performances, and your facts and history just top it off nicely.

  • @OofusTwillip
    @OofusTwillip 4 роки тому +2

    Anyone who refers to Spike Jones (the bandleader) and has a Laurel & Hardy photo on the wall, and has restored and mastered this mechanical instrument, is after my own heart!

  • @richclips
    @richclips 11 місяців тому

    Wonderful video, thank you, what a beautiful machine, and thanks to you, I now know of it, love it x

  • @tylerrunnels8005
    @tylerrunnels8005 4 роки тому

    Awesome informative video. I appreciate how you used every pulley, switch, and foot pedal to show off that amazing instrument.

  • @dirkadirka5395
    @dirkadirka5395 3 роки тому

    I've been watching videos of exotic instruments most of the day and this takes the cake. I hope you're still thumping.slapping,tugging etc. What a great video as I watched your other playing video first. Awesome upload Sir. Cheers from Canada.

  • @AustinChowChow
    @AustinChowChow 10 років тому +1

    This is so cool. Your Fotoplayer is beautiful and I'm digging the passion you have for it!

  • @Rav123123
    @Rav123123 4 роки тому +1

    that horn makes such a perfect honk sound

  • @TheDarkPhoenix23
    @TheDarkPhoenix23 8 років тому

    This is too awesome! When I first saw a clip I suspected it was for silent films, so I'm glad you gave us the official run down.

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma01 Рік тому

    Superb. Many thanks from England for this bit of education- I have to go and watch a bit of Harold Lloyd now! 💛

  • @HelloKittyFanMan
    @HelloKittyFanMan Рік тому

    I wish you had a video of showing the behind-the-scenes of how this works: how you switch between spool boxes, which is cool that this has two of; and how the linkages from the pull-cords to the organ cabinet work; and how many fans that has, like if it has one for driving the piano proper and another one that drives the organ cabinet separately, since those pianos run on suction but the organs run on blowing; or if it's just one blower and the suction side runs the piano while its output runs the organ box (and how, if it's only one fan doing both operations, it can always pull enough air through the piano to put into the organ without being suffocated), and if the blower is so big that it sits in the back outside of the cabinets, and if that's why it doesn't sound like a freaking vacuum cleaner, etc.

  • @Karlfalcon
    @Karlfalcon 10 років тому +2

    But, at the same time, that is why the few we have left are so cherished.

  • @Paul-iv9mt
    @Paul-iv9mt 2 роки тому

    Awesome. Hope this amazing skill is being passed on so future generations can enjoy this .

  • @neojc128
    @neojc128 5 років тому

    WHY IS THIS NOT EVERYWHERE!?!?

  • @asteverino8569
    @asteverino8569 Рік тому

    Thanks Joe. I love this machine and what it was used for and what it does.
    A mechanical wonder.

  • @CarfDarko
    @CarfDarko 9 років тому

    Thank you for posting this, really informative! Please keep her save for the next generation!

  • @kronk99
    @kronk99 8 років тому

    Joe is awesome!!! This was great!!!

  • @philc8575
    @philc8575 Рік тому

    Never knew! I am a bit of a silent film fan but never had a clue how it was done in the theaters! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
    Very interesting!
    (Henry Gibson🤣🤣)

  • @HelloKittyFanMan
    @HelloKittyFanMan Рік тому

    It's cool that this setup has so many things; it's basically a miniature theater organ. Those mini stops are cute.

  • @LMDshamanic
    @LMDshamanic 2 роки тому

    This is great. Thank you! I want to play one of these.

  • @nazarethwoodshop
    @nazarethwoodshop Рік тому

    It blows my mind how intricately connected this machine must be in an age before any high tech anything. Thanks for sharing I really enjoyed your presentation

  • @jlropers973
    @jlropers973 10 років тому

    Thanks for posting!

  • @Perun42
    @Perun42 2 роки тому

    Amazing!
    I never heard about thing like this.
    Thank you!

  • @dennisspinkshappyforbusker2523
    @dennisspinkshappyforbusker2523 5 років тому

    Absolutely brilliant. thanks 🤗

  • @BamboLord
    @BamboLord 8 років тому +5

    I FUCKING LOVE IT

  • @VINICIUSJEON
    @VINICIUSJEON 11 років тому

    Amaaaazing!! Respects to you Mr. Rinaudo!!!!

  • @7329690653
    @7329690653 11 років тому

    Thanks for this tutorial you answered all of my questions . Some food for thought can you immagin the work that went into this instruments design !

  • @Yaledmot
    @Yaledmot 11 років тому

    Excellent! Thanks Joe.

  • @emkirus
    @emkirus 9 років тому +1

    Lovely man, beautiful machine!

  • @PTechnicalOriginal
    @PTechnicalOriginal 10 років тому +4

    I had the pleasure of having a go of a Wurlitzer version, at a studio in Paris. Unfortunately, it was in a bad state. Only a couple of stops on the organ, the chimes(tuned as I recall), and the bass drum worked. I don't think it was complete, judging by everything you have going on here. Fascinating machine, great to see and learn about the original:)

  • @maniacguitar
    @maniacguitar 10 років тому +2

    I love this!! Joe looks like such a nice guy :)

  • @aghauler1964
    @aghauler1964 3 роки тому

    To copy a phrase from Mr Red Skelton, Joe is a true sage of our time, Thank you for preserving such history and beauty.

  • @TobyChampion
    @TobyChampion Рік тому

    A sample pack of all of this would he fun.

  • @pefruc
    @pefruc 5 років тому

    I can´t stop listening your fotoplayer songs!!! I definitely become your biggest fan! It´s the funniest instrument I ever saw!!!

  • @KameariKillScreen
    @KameariKillScreen 2 роки тому

    There's a certain purity of sound to this honest to goodness American madness

  • @gangreneday
    @gangreneday 2 роки тому

    Love this so much.

  • @RobGordon35
    @RobGordon35 Рік тому

    Amazing! Thank you!

  • @Brookside975
    @Brookside975 6 років тому

    I enjoy your videos, your expertise and of course, your American Fotoplayer so much! STEVE/OHIO

  • @CapitanWillMoran
    @CapitanWillMoran 10 років тому +14

    This is the Dwarf Fortress of the Pianos

  • @clown134
    @clown134 Рік тому

    imagine the fun we could have if we went away with the profit motive and focus on enjoying life. we could be hearing these in theaters if we really wanted to as like a specialty experience

  • @marksteele9316
    @marksteele9316 8 років тому

    Thanks Mr. Rinaudo!

  • @bopeuph
    @bopeuph 11 років тому

    Wow! Thanks for this!

  • @FelipeWurst
    @FelipeWurst 10 років тому

    this is SO AWESOME!

  • @zpunk81
    @zpunk81 4 роки тому +2

    i just looked and Sotheby's has a model 45 for sale, only $414,000.00

  • @fododude
    @fododude Рік тому +1

    Mind-blowing machine.

  • @alwaysbearded1
    @alwaysbearded1 2 роки тому

    Oakland California? My hometown. Very cool. Never knew what this device was called. We need one in the Paramount Theater.

  • @BintyMcFrazzles
    @BintyMcFrazzles 2 роки тому

    What a beautiful instrument.

  • @dmanfred2
    @dmanfred2 Рік тому

    Have you ever been to "The House on the Rock" In Spring Green Ws? The museum there has many dozens, maybe hundreds of automaton music making machines. Some even have violins. Really something to see if you're ever in that neighborhood.

  • @annierosha5946
    @annierosha5946 3 роки тому

    Excellent,excellent, excellent.

  • @joeljensen9799
    @joeljensen9799 3 роки тому

    We have one at Glenwood Vaudville Review in Glenwood Springs, Colorado. Amazing machine.

  • @obits3
    @obits3 Рік тому +2

    Thus might be the first example of a true DJ in substance. It has multiple tracks that can be set up and the ability to remix with effects on the fly. Amazing.

  • @56ghostwriter
    @56ghostwriter 11 років тому

    Love this!

  • @jpsned
    @jpsned Рік тому +1

    I'd love to know how the "wind" or "Curly Howard effect" works! 🙂

  • @maebroski4415
    @maebroski4415 8 років тому +11

    I am blown away by this beautiful instrument. Might I ask, where and how did you obtain this? I would love to have one someday, but I'm sure it's extremely hard for someone to get their hands on.

    • @andrewbarrett1537
      @andrewbarrett1537 6 років тому +6

      Whimsy Wonders Well, gutted photoplayer pianos (usually American, or Wurlitzer) turn up on Craigslist very occasionally, but you're right, the complete or partially complete instruments are really hard to come by, and usually offered by mechanical music dealers, sometimes through collector groups like MBSI and AMICA. There are various photoplayer parts in various restorers' parts piles around the US, probably enough to resurrect a few instruments using the gutted piano as a starting point. I'll be getting a gutted Wurlitzer photoplayer piano in a few months (right now, just an empty upright piano case, good only for hand playing as a piano right now), but, once I determine the model it was, hope to eventually get and make the side cabinet (s) and parts to restore it back to original. After that, I'll certainly post videos.

    • @tutecaum
      @tutecaum 3 роки тому +1

      Joe Rinaudo answered it up there in the comments:
      "Hi, My Fotoplayer was one of the last to be built at the Van Nuys plant in 1926. Just before the American Photoplayer co. filed for bankruptcy. It was shipped up to a theater in Canada and was used until sound came in 1930.It was covered up (rather than thrown away) when a stage was built over and around it to support a larger screen. When the theater was demolished in 1971 it was found under the stage and purchased by a Canadian living in Anaheim California. I purchased it from him in unrestored original condition in 1973 and spent the next three years restoring it. Being sealed up under the stage for so long preserved it. So it was very complete as no one had the chance to steal anything off of it (kind of like King Tut)! I finally got it to play in July of 1976. I have enjoyed playing it ever since. Thanks for asking.
      "

  • @user-fz4wm4ur7w
    @user-fz4wm4ur7w 4 роки тому

    Up here in Calgary AB Canada we have a Kimbell Theater Organ in our National Music Centre which is massive. It was also used for silent films and is demonstrated every day. i will try to attach a short video of this wonderful piece of history

  • @Aenemic_
    @Aenemic_ 2 роки тому +1

    good on u joe. thanks

  • @sulladrum
    @sulladrum 4 роки тому

    This video is still appreciated

  • @dennisbouma37
    @dennisbouma37 2 роки тому +1

    All of Laurel&Hardy sounds! Amazing!

  • @lalaLAX219
    @lalaLAX219 4 роки тому

    An American treasure! Both you and the fotoplayer 😄

  • @guymandudely324
    @guymandudely324 2 роки тому

    First, a thank you for presenting these performances. Second, have you ever seen a 45 or 50 in person, or one that can play?

  • @MonsterMidi
    @MonsterMidi 4 роки тому +1

    I wish I wouldn’t have seen this video.
    Now I need one! I would have died to have one of these when I was 7 or 8. When I discovered Pipe Organ Pizza in Dallas Texas! A big WurliTzer organ in a pizza restaurant. I wanted to recreate it at home.

  • @buddingvideos
    @buddingvideos 5 років тому +3

    at 2:40 i dont understand what he said because of the bell chime, and the CC subtitles dont really help and its hard to find the vocabulary to describe this sound or instrument that makes this sound? doies anyone know what it is to help me?

    • @brendanwalsh8019
      @brendanwalsh8019 5 років тому

      He says "And then of course, we have wind, which is the next effect." :)

  • @autumnmissepic8498
    @autumnmissepic8498 Рік тому

    those switches sound shockingly similar to early midi! verry cool

  • @AerialTheShamen
    @AerialTheShamen 5 років тому

    The whole Fotoplayer apparatus is almost like deejaying/making EDM - switching timbres and adding percussion in realtime while a prerecorded sequence is running from 2 sequencer units (piano rolls) - and this all in pneumatic instead of electronic logics is fascinating.
    This is not only orchestrion. Can also rhythm play from paper rolls, or only the melody track? Can both cylinders run simultaneously (possibly in different tempo) to mix them? Its so ahead of its time. I wonder if experimental avant-garde composers ever understood the potential of it (listen to "Doop Doop" of 1994). That is to say, it would be exciting to compose tekkno on such a thing.

  • @andrewbarrett1537
    @andrewbarrett1537 6 років тому +1

    Joe's video here is an excellent Fotoplayer introduction and tutorial.
    Here's an example of the Fotoplayer being used for a silent comedy, with the rolls, with all percussion and registration being accomplished by Robert Israel, who is a consumate keyboard musician, arranger, and conductor who specializes in silent film music. Mr. Israel is also a friend of Joe and I've heard him in concert a few times at the Mighty Wurlitzer theatre pipe organ in various venues: ua-cam.com/video/o7pPTqZEmBk/v-deo.html
    Of course, the Fotoplayer can also be used for ballads, love scenes, etc. and play soft and sweet, It's all in what music you choose and how you play it. But the sound effects are really great in the comedies and dramas!

  • @BayuFauzi
    @BayuFauzi 10 років тому

    I love you Joe!

  • @RVFreeDa
    @RVFreeDa 8 років тому

    Fantastic! I have a old upright piano that has a label in it that says it comes from Saint Mary's Church in England. It doesn't get played enough and I need to find some piano playing friends! lol My piano looks like the one in the movie Gone With The Wind.

  • @jennimadden1061
    @jennimadden1061 7 років тому

    Amazing!!!!

  • @biglift1
    @biglift1 9 років тому +1

    Mr. Rinaudo what is the history of you fotoplayer and where did you find it and in what condition was it in etc . love to hear that story. Did you restore it ?

  • @e3IZrZ
    @e3IZrZ 2 роки тому

    When I first saw a Fotoplayer I thought from the sound it was used at Circuses.

  • @666kvlt
    @666kvlt Рік тому

    i need this SOOOOOOOOO BADLYYYYY

  • @mj6962
    @mj6962 6 років тому +1

    Does anyone know if there is one of these amazing instruments anywhere around INDIANA??