This was beautiful. I really appreciated that you reminded people that @Renmakesmusic is not a prophet or Messiah but just a human like everybody else. Thank you for taking the time to use your knowledge of Buddhism to help others better appreciate Ren's message. Also thank you for sharing your perspective of his art, it was very eye opening. The way you deliver your information is calming and special I look forward to more videos. ❤
This was fascinating to watch. The deep dive. The insights into Ren as an artist that came from this. The amount of time it must have taken you to put this together and the desire to deeply understand this complex visionary of a human who is Ren. I loved it❤. I love your work as a producer as well. This was an experience. Thank you 🎉
I would like to see you reach out to Ren and see if you could achieve an interview with him .. The questions and answers would be a fascinating watch ..You are both producers you both share the same UA-cam name ( makes music ) you both share the same outlook on life ..kinda reminds of how soulmates meet each other in strange circumstances throughout ones life journey .. Heres hoping ..enchanting video and well thought out and thank you... keep up your wonderful work .. peace and love .
I am sure this was not your intent with this video but, the theme that hit me the hardest with this was when you mentioned catharsis. This, for me is what I have experienced the most, surprisingly from RENs work. I have experienced catharsis I didn’t realise I needed. It has been a revelation and has made me a calmer person who is striving to be a better person. This video is the kind of work that I enjoy seeing stemming from RENs art 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
This was brilliantly produced & so enjoyable & refreshing to view. Masochist is one of my favourite Ren tracks for the reasoning you have so eloquently & intelligently shared with us. “You can be reborn without dying….any day” ☯️❤️
That was absolutely brilliant thank you. Informative, enlightening, touching, and lots more adjectives I can't think of right now with my frazzled brain 😂 When masochist first premiered, my initial reaction was OMG! Quickly followed by I hope people don't take it the wrong way/literally and attack Ren for his expression of his deep pain and anger thru his art... Your breakdown of the theme was absolutely fab 🤩
Thanks for this, Petra! I studied Western philosophy in Heidelberg, and then Tibetan philosophy in Boulder Colorado. I love Ren, and this is a wonderful insight into his incredible body of work. I am very impressed with your work, and hope you will continue to delve into the brilliance of Ren, AURORA, and Jacob Collier. These artists have reignited my love of “popular” music, for which I had lost interest with the advent of disco. Keep up the good work, you have a fan in me!
Hi Petra, just stumbled across this, but it was very late so didn't have my undevided attention. I follow Ren and also have an interest in the teaching of Buddha at so will definitely try to listen to this again. Thank you
I obviously wasn't paying enough attention to Ren's lyrics. I knew he was thoughtful & often has a message but I had not known what Masochist was about. Loved your explanation, very clear and you put a lot of effort in. 🙏@@petramakesmusic675
i always knew you were well educated by the insights in your reactions. i loved this. i studied psy in college and loved the philo classes that just scratched the surface. nice to see someone giving the deep dive to a song i found to be possibly his deepest to date. more would be great your very good a cinematography. cheers from pa. u.s.a.
Thank you for the deep dive on this. Many people weren't keen on it when it was first released as they couldn't reconcile the anger and the release. It's great to hear someone with your background really peel back the layers on it.
Great reaction. First reactor I've seen be able to bring it here. I knew there had to be more Buddhists that understood Ren in a way that makes sense from the get go. Thanks ✌🇨🇦
This was wonderful! A lot of people take Ren's music at its surface value, which is delightful enough. But there's so much underneath, if you care to dig!
Thank you for this. Unfortunately, opportunities to hear someone speaking my language are few and far between, so this is greatly appreciated. I picked up what he was getting at through the lyrics. I never took them literally, even though I can see how it would be easy to do so, considering all that Ren has been through.
First time here, so lovely to meet you Petra 💕 i love how well you articulated your thoughts, wisdom and knowledge. Thank you for this wonderful deep dive. It brought me to tears too - It would be just wonderful for you to have the opportunity interview Ren ❤ subscribing and catching up on your other reactions ❤
Really enjoyed your take on this, thanks for the effort 👌 I had no idea you had done Buddhist studies.. but it does explain some of your expressions in the reactions 😊
Wow. I have listened to Masochist probably 100 times or more, and I have always been troubled by the title and how that concept fits the lyrics. Duh. I'm old and I'm educated, and I love Ren's work and trust his mind, and I love the song -- but I never could "grok" it. And now I do! Thank you for these insights delivered in such a clear and soothing way.
Wow, I love this... Im an amateur follower in Kadampa Buddhist teachings. This was so interesting to watch. I think I'm right in remembering that Ren when he was at his lowest, tried looking for all sorts of spiritual answers to his sickness and tried Buddhism for a while, he used to sit and chant mantras to help settle his mind. Personally I can see a lot of the Buddhist ways have influenced him and it leaks out in his music.
I didn’t know that he did that, but I’m not surprised. Chanting is a powerful practice, I especially like how it resonates in the chest, it’s like giving a hug to your organs. I’m glad he found a little solace.
@@petramakesmusic675 yes I think he talked about it in his chapters. Something you might be interested in watching. ua-cam.com/play/PLKFO0C0E7JcvUyYZSyte8omVITyIKoS17.html&si=GaqjITkO1dGrhkWq
Thank you for this. The last couple years I feel like I have been drowning in my own worries of what everything means. I got really lost when I initially tried contemplating Buddhism a couple years ago, because it all made so much sense, but in a scary way for me. I was terrified that what I was reading meant that I was entirely alone on a metaphysical level. It made me feel an unhealthy disconnect with my loved ones. It was hard to give something as simple as a hug when in the back of my mind, I was wondering if they were even real. I'm still not sure if that is really want I was supposed to accept or learn, but seeing people like Ren and yourself share so much about it, kinda reinforces to me that I am not alone in the way I think I am. You both wouldn't be wasting your time spreading knowledge if it wasn't going to anyone else. We may be one outside of this life, but I think I have to find the balance in accepting what we are here too. I am not really sure and I don't claim to know my path how I should, but all I can say is thank you, because this video had me cathartically in tears and forced me to contemplate things I had been avoiding. Sorry for the crazy rant, but again.. just thank you.
No need to apologize for anything 🙏🏻 It means a lot that I could help you. The tricky thing about buddhist thinking is that though it is a deeply personal path, it is also about relationships. The ocean is not just ourself, it is also the world. It’s a dance, as Ren says. I wish you the best 🩵
This was beautiful. I'm going to save it to listen to again because I'm sure I didn't catch everything. I hope Ren sees this ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Wow, this work is pure art, what an unique breakdown and analysis, Hard work, and good taste. I love this video beyond what my words can explain, thanks for this beautiful moment.
Thank you very much for this . Currently I am in hospital and my stay continues to be extended (I am not comparing myself to the artist in the least). I have had moments of intense emotions and while i have read in my studies that the path to enlightenment is the middle path my emotions do lead me astray. Early in this video you offered "identify what is happening instead of getting carried away by it" and this struck a chord I shared my emotional experience with a friend who offered (edited) "it is ok to feel this way however it is important how we accept, manage and overcome these emotions" I will listen to this program again as I was also interested in the idea of during meditation you rise above the water and the turmoil of our thoughts. I have always had difficulty calming my mind during this activity but as my mind was cluttered by the first principle I heard..... A great friend sent this to me and said if you're bored... (I was not bored and am grateful to have listened and learned) 🙏
I’m so sorry you have to go through a difficult time and I wish you get well soon 🩵 I’m grateful you shared that in some way, I could help you a little bit. With intense emotions, what I learned is that it’s best to let them come and be, let them tell you what is wrong. Sometimes I even find a quiet place and I talk it out while I cry, and I try to also be there for me while I do that just by listening. Even if the head is out of the water, the body is still there and it deserves empathy 🙏🏻✨
@@petramakesmusic675 my recent journey has taught me so much of gratitude and empathy. when I was in my negative cycle I had a visitor who recently had lost their feet and hands AFTER a two year journey to defeat a cancer. I was humbled when after we talked they asked me if I wished a coffee. the one thing I have missed most in the last two weeks is good, strong coffee. I gratefully accepted and was given cause to reflect on my state. I had often heard in my life that that helping/thinking of others allows us to transcend our own difficulties. This person embodies that and opened my soul further to wish to be in this hospital for the benefit of others if only through a kind word, a smile or a hello. My body may be impermanent but while here I hope to be like this person and be here for others as well as for my health. Thank you for your kind words 🙏
@@petramakesmusic675 thank you for kind words and counsel. while I was having the negative moments yesterday I received a visit from a lady (wife of a co-worker) who is on the same floor. She defeated cancer recently but another issue has caused her to have both her feet and hands removed. After we talked for a bit she asks me "would you like a coffee?" I gratefully accepted. The one thing I have missed during my stay is good, strong coffee. As she and her husband left I was awed by how even in her condition she was thinking of others. She inspired me to do the same for the other patients around me. I've always been told that I'm a very considerate and caring but she has taught me I can be even more empathetic. I'm here not just for me but for those around me. I'm grateful to be here and continue to be a better human 🙏
About half way through… love it so far. One question (seriously interested in your answer), Ren and I both have adhd which is characterized by a lack of ability to control your focus. So what does that make one then? I guess you have to be careful on what you put in your surroundings to focus on?
Hey Michael! I would say with ADHD, still meditations and practices don’t work most of the time, because their attention is so layered it scatteres. To be mindful of surroundings can help, but I would quote my yoga teacher who told me “in whatever action you find a peaceful awareness is your practice”. For example, I’ve found a practice in contact improv dancing, as I could extend my focus into the movement of my body, listening to how it projects my feelings, thoughts and relationship with the world. Ren’s hyperfocus on musical lines are like reciting mantras (which I’m told in the comments he actually practiced at some point). It is a practice that instead of trying to guide the focus in a singular object, gives each of our senses and our conciousness something to do. These are dances, rituals, recitals, or visualisations. As with anyone, with ADHD I would treat the mind with kindness wherever it goes. If you find your hyperfocus and you can notice yourself being in it - that is already a practice. In time, if you can use for making observations, that is also a practice. It doesn’t have to be hours, just moments can teach you much about yourself. 🙏🏻 I had anxiety and depression some years ago, and finding something that brings me joy (aka dancing) and making that a practice helped a lot. Also, therapy. Because sometimes you are so caught up in your own tornado, you need someone to occasionally pull you out and show you how’s the outside perspective feel. When it comes to medcations, it’s an area I don’t feel as qualified, but I hope my thoughts provided some help 🩷 Thanks for watching! ✨☺️
This was beautiful. I really appreciated that you reminded people that @Renmakesmusic is not a prophet or Messiah but just a human like everybody else. Thank you for taking the time to use your knowledge of Buddhism to help others better appreciate Ren's message. Also thank you for sharing your perspective of his art, it was very eye opening. The way you deliver your information is calming and special I look forward to more videos. ❤
I am so happy to read this, thank you! 🥹✨🙏🏻
This was fascinating to watch. The deep dive. The insights into Ren as an artist that came from this. The amount of time it must have taken you to put this together and the desire to deeply understand this complex visionary of a human who is Ren. I loved it❤. I love your work as a producer as well. This was an experience. Thank you 🎉
I would like to see you reach out to Ren and see if you could achieve an interview with him .. The questions and answers would be a fascinating watch ..You are both producers you both share the same UA-cam name ( makes music ) you both share the same outlook on life ..kinda reminds of how soulmates meet each other in strange circumstances throughout ones life journey .. Heres hoping ..enchanting video and well thought out and thank you... keep up your wonderful work .. peace and love .
Thank you 🙏🏻 I will work towards achieving that in the future 🪷 if I could ever talk to him omg it was a life worth living ☺️🥰
I am sure this was not your intent with this video but, the theme that hit me the hardest with this was when you mentioned catharsis. This, for me is what I have experienced the most, surprisingly from RENs work. I have experienced catharsis I didn’t realise I needed. It has been a revelation and has made me a calmer person who is striving to be a better person. This video is the kind of work that I enjoy seeing stemming from RENs art 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Thank you. I am in tears. You have simultaneously opened my eyes and let me be seen. Right now I am confused, but maybe, one day, I will understand.
This was brilliantly produced & so enjoyable & refreshing to view. Masochist is one of my favourite Ren tracks for the reasoning you have so eloquently & intelligently shared with us.
“You can be reborn without dying….any day” ☯️❤️
That was absolutely brilliant thank you. Informative, enlightening, touching, and lots more adjectives I can't think of right now with my frazzled brain 😂
When masochist first premiered, my initial reaction was OMG! Quickly followed by I hope people don't take it the wrong way/literally and attack Ren for his expression of his deep pain and anger thru his art... Your breakdown of the theme was absolutely fab 🤩
I’m so happy you liked it 🙏🏻✨🥰
Hey Petra, thank you for this very interessting view on "Masochist". A very deep dive into an other point of view. I liked your video a lot.
I really hope Ren sees this someday because it is brilliant. Much love ✌️
I learned stuff! 😀 Thanks for putting this together. 💜
Thanks for this, Petra! I studied Western philosophy in Heidelberg, and then Tibetan philosophy in Boulder Colorado. I love Ren, and this is a wonderful insight into his incredible body of work. I am very impressed with your work, and hope you will continue to delve into the brilliance of Ren, AURORA, and Jacob Collier. These artists have reignited my love of “popular” music, for which I had lost interest with the advent of disco. Keep up the good work, you have a fan in me!
thank you ☺️❤️ i’ll continue for sure!
Hi Petra, just stumbled across this, but it was very late so didn't have my undevided attention. I follow Ren and also have an interest in the teaching of Buddha at so will definitely try to listen to this again. Thank you
Take your time! Happy to see you around here 🙂
I obviously wasn't paying enough attention to Ren's lyrics. I knew he was thoughtful & often has a message but I had not known what Masochist was about. Loved your explanation, very clear and you put a lot of effort in. 🙏@@petramakesmusic675
i always knew you were well educated by the insights in your reactions. i loved this. i studied psy in college and loved the philo classes that just scratched the surface. nice to see someone giving the deep dive to a song i found to be possibly his deepest to date. more would be great your very good a cinematography. cheers from pa. u.s.a.
I’m happy you enjoyed, especially the cinematography, because it was a challenge!
Very impressive Appreciate you sharing.
Thank you for the deep dive on this. Many people weren't keen on it when it was first released as they couldn't reconcile the anger and the release. It's great to hear someone with your background really peel back the layers on it.
You have informed me that there is a level of understanding well worth effort. Thank you. Yes, much appreciated.
Great reaction. First reactor I've seen be able to bring it here. I knew there had to be more Buddhists that understood Ren in a way that makes sense from the get go. Thanks ✌🇨🇦
I'm happy to know that people are understanding the song in both forms
as a deep philosophical song & as a good gym bop❤
This was fascinating thank you ❤
This was wonderful! A lot of people take Ren's music at its surface value, which is delightful enough. But there's so much underneath, if you care to dig!
Thank you for this. Unfortunately, opportunities to hear someone speaking my language are few and far between, so this is greatly appreciated. I picked up what he was getting at through the lyrics. I never took them literally, even though I can see how it would be easy to do so, considering all that Ren has been through.
Thank you for being unique.
First time here, so lovely to meet you Petra 💕 i love how well you articulated your thoughts, wisdom and knowledge. Thank you for this wonderful deep dive. It brought me to tears too - It would be just wonderful for you to have the opportunity interview Ren ❤ subscribing and catching up on your other reactions ❤
Tjank you for the documentation (ex: live 360° Jenny and Schreech) and your conclusion/ explanation. Plus the entertainment in your video!❤
This was amazing!
Really enjoyed your take on this, thanks for the effort 👌
I had no idea you had done Buddhist studies.. but it does explain some of your expressions in the reactions 😊
Wow. I have listened to Masochist probably 100 times or more, and I have always been troubled by the title and how that concept fits the lyrics. Duh. I'm old and I'm educated, and I love Ren's work and trust his mind, and I love the song -- but I never could "grok" it. And now I do! Thank you for these insights delivered in such a clear and soothing way.
You’re so welcome ☺️✨
Thank you for this - very enlightening and thought provoking. I'm sure I will be back to watch it again to taken in the different layers more fully.
Wow, I love this... Im an amateur follower in Kadampa Buddhist teachings. This was so interesting to watch.
I think I'm right in remembering that Ren when he was at his lowest, tried looking for all sorts of spiritual answers to his sickness and tried Buddhism for a while, he used to sit and chant mantras to help settle his mind.
Personally I can see a lot of the Buddhist ways have influenced him and it leaks out in his music.
I didn’t know that he did that, but I’m not surprised. Chanting is a powerful practice, I especially like how it resonates in the chest, it’s like giving a hug to your organs. I’m glad he found a little solace.
@@petramakesmusic675 yes I think he talked about it in his chapters.
Something you might be interested in watching.
ua-cam.com/play/PLKFO0C0E7JcvUyYZSyte8omVITyIKoS17.html&si=GaqjITkO1dGrhkWq
Thank you for this. The last couple years I feel like I have been drowning in my own worries of what everything means. I got really lost when I initially tried contemplating Buddhism a couple years ago, because it all made so much sense, but in a scary way for me. I was terrified that what I was reading meant that I was entirely alone on a metaphysical level. It made me feel an unhealthy disconnect with my loved ones. It was hard to give something as simple as a hug when in the back of my mind, I was wondering if they were even real. I'm still not sure if that is really want I was supposed to accept or learn, but seeing people like Ren and yourself share so much about it, kinda reinforces to me that I am not alone in the way I think I am. You both wouldn't be wasting your time spreading knowledge if it wasn't going to anyone else. We may be one outside of this life, but I think I have to find the balance in accepting what we are here too. I am not really sure and I don't claim to know my path how I should, but all I can say is thank you, because this video had me cathartically in tears and forced me to contemplate things I had been avoiding. Sorry for the crazy rant, but again.. just thank you.
No need to apologize for anything 🙏🏻 It means a lot that I could help you. The tricky thing about buddhist thinking is that though it is a deeply personal path, it is also about relationships. The ocean is not just ourself, it is also the world. It’s a dance, as Ren says. I wish you the best 🩵
I loved this. Thank you.😊
This was absolutely fascinating, thank you 🫶
Dang, that was deep. 👍❤
Thanks for this interpretation. Always nice to learn something new.
I learned so much from you perspective. Thank you!
What a fascinating insight Petra. Thank you. Subscribed
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This was beautiful. I'm going to save it to listen to again because I'm sure I didn't catch everything. I hope Ren sees this
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I hope so too ✨🙏🏻❤️
Wow, this work is pure art, what an unique breakdown and analysis, Hard work, and good taste. I love this video beyond what my words can explain, thanks for this beautiful moment.
This is very interesting, have to go back to it several times to catch more after I've let this first watch sink in.
Also, I commented before I got to the end and you made me cry! It was a good cry though.
I’m so happy that I could give you a moment 🥹 Thank you for your donation 🙏🏻✨
Really interesting. Thank you.
Thank you for being there as i struggle. Light shines thru.❤
Thank you very much for this . Currently I am in hospital and my stay continues to be extended (I am not comparing myself to the artist in the least). I have had moments of intense emotions and while i have read in my studies that the path to enlightenment is the middle path my emotions do lead me astray. Early in this video you offered "identify what is happening instead of getting carried away by it" and this struck a chord
I shared my emotional experience with a friend who offered (edited) "it is ok to feel this way however it is important how we accept, manage and overcome these emotions"
I will listen to this program again as I was also interested in the idea of during meditation you rise above the water and the turmoil of our thoughts. I have always had difficulty calming my mind during this activity but as my mind was cluttered by the first principle I heard.....
A great friend sent this to me and said if you're bored... (I was not bored and am grateful to have listened and learned) 🙏
I’m so sorry you have to go through a difficult time and I wish you get well soon 🩵 I’m grateful you shared that in some way, I could help you a little bit. With intense emotions, what I learned is that it’s best to let them come and be, let them tell you what is wrong. Sometimes I even find a quiet place and I talk it out while I cry, and I try to also be there for me while I do that just by listening. Even if the head is out of the water, the body is still there and it deserves empathy 🙏🏻✨
@@petramakesmusic675 my recent journey has taught me so much of gratitude and empathy. when I was in my negative cycle I had a visitor who recently had lost their feet and hands AFTER a two year journey to defeat a cancer. I was humbled when after we talked they asked me if I wished a coffee. the one thing I have missed most in the last two weeks is good, strong coffee. I gratefully accepted and was given cause to reflect on my state. I had often heard in my life that that helping/thinking of others allows us to transcend our own difficulties. This person embodies that and opened my soul further to wish to be in this hospital for the benefit of others if only through a kind word, a smile or a hello. My body may be impermanent but while here I hope to be like this person and be here for others as well as for my health. Thank you for your kind words 🙏
@@petramakesmusic675 thank you for kind words and counsel. while I was having the negative moments yesterday I received a visit from a lady (wife of a co-worker) who is on the same floor. She defeated cancer recently but another issue has caused her to have both her feet and hands removed. After we talked for a bit she asks me "would you like a coffee?" I gratefully accepted. The one thing I have missed during my stay is good, strong coffee. As she and her husband left I was awed by how even in her condition she was thinking of others. She inspired me to do the same for the other patients around me. I've always been told that I'm a very considerate and caring but she has taught me I can be even more empathetic. I'm here not just for me but for those around me. I'm grateful to be here and continue to be a better human 🙏
I'd love to see a conversation between you and Ren i think he'd be as interested in you as you are in him. Great video thank you
Wow.. this was so interesting and answered some questions I had. I will definitely be watching and learning more. Thank you. ❤
I drove by several colleges for years. UCLA mainly at one point in time. I have a degree in passing thru.
New subscriber and I thoroughly enjoyed the video. Thank you.👍🏽🐷✌🏼
Thank you this was really helpful ❤
About half way through… love it so far. One question (seriously interested in your answer), Ren and I both have adhd which is characterized by a lack of ability to control your focus. So what does that make one then? I guess you have to be careful on what you put in your surroundings to focus on?
Hey Michael! I would say with ADHD, still meditations and practices don’t work most of the time, because their attention is so layered it scatteres. To be mindful of surroundings can help, but I would quote my yoga teacher who told me “in whatever action you find a peaceful awareness is your practice”. For example, I’ve found a practice in contact improv dancing, as I could extend my focus into the movement of my body, listening to how it projects my feelings, thoughts and relationship with the world. Ren’s hyperfocus on musical lines are like reciting mantras (which I’m told in the comments he actually practiced at some point). It is a practice that instead of trying to guide the focus in a singular object, gives each of our senses and our conciousness something to do. These are dances, rituals, recitals, or visualisations. As with anyone, with ADHD I would treat the mind with kindness wherever it goes. If you find your hyperfocus and you can notice yourself being in it - that is already a practice. In time, if you can use for making observations, that is also a practice. It doesn’t have to be hours, just moments can teach you much about yourself. 🙏🏻 I had anxiety and depression some years ago, and finding something that brings me joy (aka dancing) and making that a practice helped a lot. Also, therapy. Because sometimes you are so caught up in your own tornado, you need someone to occasionally pull you out and show you how’s the outside perspective feel. When it comes to medcations, it’s an area I don’t feel as qualified, but I hope my thoughts provided some help 🩷 Thanks for watching! ✨☺️
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Too obtuse and at the same time too pointed. Scrambles my brain.
Such interesting choice of words! In any ways, thanks for taking the time to share them :)