@@AlxCVFX i mean, if you plan to say it’s accurate then it would be accurate scaling wise as well right? Like you wouldn’t make Roshi vs Galactus close
@@TCBlueFire No because whoever would make these would do it so it appeals to both fanbases. So it’s fun to watch, they wouldn’t care about scaling to make it accurate
Honestly how it should feel to play the game with people. No spam. Walk through the transformations not pick the highest tier off rip. This is what I’m going for when I play and I appreciate when I run into anyone that fights the same way
I imagine if he beat Gt Goku, he'd comment on the tail. Something like "Y,know, using a tail to boost your power is kinda outdated. I could show you how to become a Super Saiyan God if ya want".
That was a really cool fight. You did a great job. Next time try to turn the music from the game off and use a other song. And then use the training mode and turn all the life bars ect off because than you have a more cinematic feeling. Keep it up 🎉
i never understood why people compare blue to super saiyan 4 in arguments. it's obvious they're meant to be relative as power boosts. Citing the GT perfect files to say "4 is equal to potara which is below god!" never made any sense to me either, because 1. Even though goku stated "potara wouldn't be close to enough," neither was super saiyan god. No matter which continuity you looked at, super saiyan god is multiple magnitudes weaker than beerus. For blue kaioken times 20 to not be stronger than beerus, which, by the way, IS A THOUSAND TIMES STRONGER THAN SUPER SAIYAN GOD IS, (50x from ssb followed by 20x from kaioken = 1000x ssg), beerus would had to have been fighting with less than one one thousandth of his power in battle of gods. Kinda makes the potara statement meaningless since super saiyan god ALSO wasn't close to enough. 2. the GT perfect file statement says "Vegetto may even be as strong as super saiyan 4!" but it also states that "Super Saiyan 4 brings a saiyan's battle power out to it's fullest potential." Which means it couldn't have a multiplier like fusions and would work more like Gohan's ultimate form does. So, pick your poison: a guidebook that contradicts itself and the show, or the tens of officially licensed media encounters that depict blue and ssj4 as being relative in power. And something else to note, the idea that "golden oozaru is a 500x multiplier and super saiyan 4 is a 4000x multiplier" is also extremely dumb. If it were that low, Goku literally wouldn't have been able to hurt Baby. Plus, the elder kai states that prior to Baby transforming into his Oozaru form, goku managed to tank a revenge death ball with no damage while only using a "smidgen" of super saiyan 4's power. Now, call it a reach, but for lack of ways to quantify what the hell a smidgen is, i just use the measuring cup size. A smidgen measuring cup is 1/32 of a regular one, so about 3.125% of super saiyan 4's power is enough to tank an attack that nearly killed super saiyan 3 goku. that's a bit bigger of an increase than 10x. and Baby confirms that Goku hadn't undergone any sort of zenkai boost once he returns with his tail, so we can rule that out too. Now, I realize this has devolved into a schizo rant, but between heroes and games (which may not be canon but, neither is GT, so I don't see why we CAN'T use it.) depicting the forms as equals and the fact that super saiyan 4 is an equally ridiculous leap in power from Z as super saiyan god was, i genuinely believe the forms are equal.
What makes scaling SSJ4 as SSJ3x10 so stupid is that the forms aren't even connected besides the name for convenience. You don't even need SSJ2 to reach SSJ4
@humanman9920 i mean, i was more so implying that I'd defend GT powerscaling, but I also know when GT Goku would lose, and this is definitely a fight he would not win
Not really I prefer ss4 but I feel like realistically this is how it would go unless he has ultra full power super saiyan 4 kaioken blue would definitely win this was a great video
Divine power vs experience i think gt Goku would have a higher base power level and would be more tactical because he had to adapt to situations with a weaker body despite being very powerful, but super goku has access to a higher power because of godly ki,
@@randomised7562Why tho , GT Goku's base is ridiculously stronger . Putting bases at equal strength means u're comparing forms not GT Goku vs Super Goku .
@@humanman9920 no dbs's goku is far stronger than GT in base, that's why I was scaling him down to match GT goku and even then he'd demolish him. GT gets glazed so hard in terms of power scaling. DBS goku surpassed GT goku after he absorbed the god power into his base form and pre tournament of power base super goku could probably take on ss4 gt goku because of the broken powerscaling in dbs
@@randomised7562 The only glazing i see here just like in general is for dbs . U should at least reflect by urself when u have to include " probably " in ur claims . But sure i'll help , Base Goku since sugoroku space destruction clears .
@@humanman9920 man super's power creep is just ridiculous it's not even gt being weak. Base Goku would actually win against ss4 if we're putting bias aside
That’s the best fight that’s actually true,next on the list dbz super saiyan Goku from Frieza saga vs vegeta,nappa and raditz from saiyan saga (but it’s accurate)
It was great, but realistically Super Goku would only have to use his normal form. Goku in super absorbed the energy from his friends first when the ritual failed, and then became super Saiyan God after that. And on top of that, base Goku is way stronger than he was in SSG when he fought against Beerus
It’s accurate if it’s Baby Saga Goku, Super 17 Saga Goku would need UI to beat and Shadow Dragons Saga Goku got some ridiculous amps like his Base form scaling over his S17 arc SSJ4 self by the time he fights Nouva Shenron and then his SSJ4 getting major amps by the time he fights Sun so idk if even MUI could match him power for power Dope video and choreography none the less
Nope , Baby arc Base Goku performs a stronger feat all of dbs . Sugoroku space is an established infinite " between space and time " as well as life and death . Best we've seen from dbs is couple feats from some of the strongest characters going above space and time , like dbs Goku needing UI to shake world of void which is above space and time , not even destroying let alone it not even having another layer of transcendence being above binary oppositions like life and death that sugoroku space was . Dbs Goku so far can't beat Base Goku from Baby arc . Let alone Ssj4 Goku in his first appearance tanking a bigger version of RDB than its first showing which already went from living world in the bottom of db universe sphere to subspace which is stated to have no concept of space and time , to warp Goku into sugoroku space which is between space and time and life and death as well . Even if Dbs characters went from living world to world of void with sheer power , that'd still be a league below RDB .
GT Goku wins imo. Because Shenron by just existing could destroy the macrocosm while Goku even in SSB needs to power up and fight to shake or destroy the macrocosm. Only UI Goku could shake something similar to macrocosm like world of void by existing. But MUI Goku defeats him.
Pay attention to the sugoroku space episodes . Base GT Goku simply wins ever since he destroyed that. Dbs best feats have transcendence over space and time , sugoroku space had that as well as over life and death .
This just confirms that a ssg2 kaioken is stronger than a primal saiyan. If only said primal saiyan had an extra from like super saiyan 5 or an ascended saiyan 4 that be cool. But no doubt if the saiyan god had ui let alone omen it be over before it even started, I wished ssj2 had some time to shine in this.
Normal SSJ2 Super Goku would've wiped the floor with SSJ4 😂. Ssj Goku was able to keep up with Beerus right after the clash that would've destroyed the whole universe, absorbing the God Ki within. What has SSJ4 done that was universal? Nothing.
@@wolfherojohnson2766what canon? Super and GT have literally only ever met in non canon material like video games and even then SSJ4 keeps up with God until MUI via DB SH
Ooh this was really good but tbh.....ss4 Goku really should be relative to ssg Goku's tier of power...and im being nice. Anything above that would be too much but i really enjoyed this. No one held back.
@@malacoda9421I kinda get his point. As strong as SSG goku is, gotta remember that Ssj4 goku is years after super if I recall correctly and even then is yhe absolute peak of the primal nature of the saiyans. But you can make a case for both.
Well I'm not a GT fanboy or anything but: SSJ4 is basically a combination of Great Ape+SSJ.SSG is base+god ki and even if god ki is superior to mortal ki,keep in mind that non-god ki characters like Frieza,Jiren,Broly,Kefla,Ultimate Gohan,Android 17 and Hit managed to surpass or fight evenly with Goku in his SSJB form which is SSG+SSJ added on top and far above god form. SSJ4 form gives Goku the raw power he needs for the battle.SSJ God also gives Goku the raw power,however it seems to be focused more on speed,agility and an energy efficient form.If we consider the Goku black arc in manga and TOP arc in anime,Goku and Vegeta have utilized God-Blue switch for defense and offense. So SSJ4 Goku should have a slight advantage due to raw power despite the god ki, in terms of agility SSG Goku has the advantage.
@@DivinerosegokublackBecause all of the characters in DBS are scaled around SSB level and higher based on your logic. All of the characters in GT are scaled around SSJ4. You really can’t compare and contrast between both of them and in all honesty, Super really takes the win on this despite the crazy sporadic nonsense DBS has going on.
@@deotic GT Goku is too strong. Xeno Goku and CC Goku are his strongest versions but GT Goku Is right behind them. Super Goku is not Twin universal. End of GT Goku is beyond Multiversal just by Feats alone.
so whats the lore here is gt a seperate universe like universe 13 and there in the tournament of power so now goku and his friends fight there alternative versions of themselves
@@johnwalker09 anime super Goku maybe manga ...nope there goku never absorbed ssj god into base so their mortal forms are not that much stronger than in the buu saga In the manga it would probably start with super goku in ssj and GT goku in base once super goku goes to ssj2 or ssj3 GT goku would need ssj once super goku goes god tho GT goku would need ssj4 but they would be relative untill super goku goes ssj blue but due to its massive stamina issues in the manga if GT goku can survive for a short while the insanely strong attacks from super goku he would drain upto being weaker than in ssj god as it happened to vegeta against hit making it a close fight To sumarize ssj blue is massively stronger but has worse stamina At least in the manga the anime would be unfair since blue has perfect ki control + kaioken
#1: SS4 will always be cooler. #2: Can we stop pretending there’s a comparison? DB has absolutely no power scaling rules anymore. Nothing makes any sense. Reasonably one would assume Blue is far more powerful (thats absolute), but, I mean… just consume any of the DB content of the last 5 years. It’s all nonsense. At this point we should just enjoy it like we used to play with action figures.
Not accurate. GT Goku is more powerful than Z super saiyajin 3, and the super saiyajin 3 shaked heaven by growing the ki. Also base Goku solos Freeza and Cell in the hell, that confirms the first argmt.
bro it's not so simple. Goku Gt had the handicap of being a child but his power level and combat finesse was operleveled because of the training during the timeskip. The handicap ACTUALLY is useful to getting him on par with Goku Super because without that he has a level of power too much high.
@@maorfahima7315 I can vibe with that but at the same time dragonball super is inconsistent with its feats. People should be over the speed of light by the beginning of Bu saga and now that we are "divinity level" the warriors fight the same fucking way they fought from the beginning of Namek. I know that Goku and Beerus shook entire galaxies but at the end of the day is nothing short of "meh" because people like Broly, Jiren and Cell Max are so much more stronger than people during "Battle of Gods" and yet they seem far weaker.
I don't think that is accurate bro Gt goku also has another form Full power ssj 4 He got that when he was fighting baby and when pan, gotan, gohan gave their energy to goku. And goku was able to unlock full power ssj 4. Also Base gt goku was stronger than ssj 3 goku.
To be real if they re canon ss4 they going to buff it to at least ssb or ssb evo power lvl. god Ki doesn’t mean jack. Dbsh not canon but it’s lowkey a good example
![[What-If 10 MOVIE] Super Goku VS GT Goku (DBS Manga VS DBGT, Super Saiyan Blue VS Super Saiyan 4).](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lMPBH9FVbVQ/mqdefault.jpg)
![[What-If 10 MOVIE] Super Goku VS GT Goku (DBS Manga VS DBGT, Super Saiyan Blue VS Super Saiyan 4).](/img/tr.png)
This was cinema folks. The vision is there
Dumbledore is dead!
THIS WAS GREAT, Honestly would have been dope for them to add a "cinema mode" where none of the button prompts or health bar showed up on screen
@@kevd6425 you can turn the hud off but it would for some reason glitch on clashes. Hopefully gets fixed next update.
You can do it in the training mode. I did it myself for a "fan trailer". 😁@@underratedbombo6994
@@underratedbombo6994how
Or a "replay mode" that worked that way
I can already smell the dollar-store deodorant from power scalers coming this way to rant 🤧
Sadly there here.
@@AlxCVFX i mean, if you plan to say it’s accurate then it would be accurate scaling wise as well right? Like you wouldn’t make Roshi vs Galactus close
The edits and overal how the fight went feels so fluid and in character for both of them. Amazing job
I expected this to be a one-sided battle, but i really appreciate you doing both side justice. This deserve a like in ny book
Yeah but it makes it not accurate
@Wexor. do you honestly believe if Dragonball ever do a "what if" battle of dbgt vs. dbs, it'll be one-sided? Remove that biase of yours
@@TCBlueFire No because whoever would make these would do it so it appeals to both fanbases. So it’s fun to watch, they wouldn’t care about scaling to make it accurate
The Kamehameha teleportation as the finishing blow is top tier disrespect
Honestly how it should feel to play the game with people. No spam. Walk through the transformations not pick the highest tier off rip. This is what I’m going for when I play and I appreciate when I run into anyone that fights the same way
This man is lowkey carrying the classic art of fighting game clash combo videos on his back and doesn't even know it
These videos give me Tas vs Tas vibe and I'm here for it
This reminds me of Hyorinjutsu's version, but of course with several differences.
I love it!
Your actually so talented bro these edits are fire feels like watching actual dragon ball 🔥🔥🔥
I imagine if he beat Gt Goku, he'd comment on the tail. Something like "Y,know, using a tail to boost your power is kinda outdated. I could show you how to become a Super Saiyan God if ya want".
5:57 Jiren?😂
@@kingades1013 🤫
What do you mean. I didn’t hear him say it
@@rickyrackx8928read the subtitles
@@the_sam_strong I was being sarcastic
That was a really cool fight. You did a great job. Next time try to turn the music from the game off and use a other song. And then use the training mode and turn all the life bars ect off because than you have a more cinematic feeling.
Keep it up 🎉
The respect to both versions is what makes this. It also just makes me love Goku as a character more.
THIS IS PERFECTION!
i never understood why people compare blue to super saiyan 4 in arguments. it's obvious they're meant to be relative as power boosts. Citing the GT perfect files to say "4 is equal to potara which is below god!" never made any sense to me either, because
1. Even though goku stated "potara wouldn't be close to enough," neither was super saiyan god. No matter which continuity you looked at, super saiyan god is multiple magnitudes weaker than beerus. For blue kaioken times 20 to not be stronger than beerus, which, by the way, IS A THOUSAND TIMES STRONGER THAN SUPER SAIYAN GOD IS, (50x from ssb followed by 20x from kaioken = 1000x ssg), beerus would had to have been fighting with less than one one thousandth of his power in battle of gods. Kinda makes the potara statement meaningless since super saiyan god ALSO wasn't close to enough.
2. the GT perfect file statement says "Vegetto may even be as strong as super saiyan 4!" but it also states that "Super Saiyan 4 brings a saiyan's battle power out to it's fullest potential." Which means it couldn't have a multiplier like fusions and would work more like Gohan's ultimate form does. So, pick your poison: a guidebook that contradicts itself and the show, or the tens of officially licensed media encounters that depict blue and ssj4 as being relative in power.
And something else to note, the idea that "golden oozaru is a 500x multiplier and super saiyan 4 is a 4000x multiplier" is also extremely dumb. If it were that low, Goku literally wouldn't have been able to hurt Baby. Plus, the elder kai states that prior to Baby transforming into his Oozaru form, goku managed to tank a revenge death ball with no damage while only using a "smidgen" of super saiyan 4's power. Now, call it a reach, but for lack of ways to quantify what the hell a smidgen is, i just use the measuring cup size. A smidgen measuring cup is 1/32 of a regular one, so about 3.125% of super saiyan 4's power is enough to tank an attack that nearly killed super saiyan 3 goku. that's a bit bigger of an increase than 10x. and Baby confirms that Goku hadn't undergone any sort of zenkai boost once he returns with his tail, so we can rule that out too.
Now, I realize this has devolved into a schizo rant, but between heroes and games (which may not be canon but, neither is GT, so I don't see why we CAN'T use it.) depicting the forms as equals and the fact that super saiyan 4 is an equally ridiculous leap in power from Z as super saiyan god was, i genuinely believe the forms are equal.
Ssj4 got retconed thats why
XenoVerse is the Best example of it XenoVerse 1 said ssj4 is equal to god XenoVerse 2 ssj blue is equal to ssj4
Thanks, you truly are right!
What makes scaling SSJ4 as SSJ3x10 so stupid is that the forms aren't even connected besides the name for convenience. You don't even need SSJ2 to reach SSJ4
All the GT fans finna throw a fit over this lmaoooo, nice video
nah im a gt glazer and this was accurate
@@blue-ki5ipYep
@@blue-ki5ipGlazing somehow makes people credible powerscalers now ? That's an interesting shortcut lol
@humanman9920 i mean, i was more so implying that I'd defend GT powerscaling, but I also know when GT Goku would lose, and this is definitely a fight he would not win
Not really I prefer ss4 but I feel like realistically this is how it would go unless he has ultra full power super saiyan 4 kaioken blue would definitely win this was a great video
SS4 is so legendary 🙌
Do SSJ4 Gogeta vs Base Cabba next
Bro please. Let cabba get past Uub first.
@@scprwbysportal7202cabba will smoke that potential fraud
@@scprwbysportal7202 cabba drops majuub off in base icl
You can feel that these two had the time of their lives
That was accurate.
So fucking inaccurate
No
Very cool, very cinematic. Wouldn't call it accurate though. That would involve GT Goku getting turned to dust pretty early on.
This is peak UA-cam video right here it’s art🔥
Divine power vs experience i think gt Goku would have a higher base power level and would be more tactical because he had to adapt to situations with a weaker body despite being very powerful, but super goku has access to a higher power because of godly ki,
nah super had immense powercreep, GT goku would lose to ssg at ss4, and thats putting both of their bases at equal strength.
@@randomised7562Why tho , GT Goku's base is ridiculously stronger . Putting bases at equal strength means u're comparing forms not GT Goku vs Super Goku .
@@humanman9920 no dbs's goku is far stronger than GT in base, that's why I was scaling him down to match GT goku and even then he'd demolish him. GT gets glazed so hard in terms of power scaling. DBS goku surpassed GT goku after he absorbed the god power into his base form and pre tournament of power base super goku could probably take on ss4 gt goku because of the broken powerscaling in dbs
@@randomised7562 The only glazing i see here just like in general is for dbs . U should at least reflect by urself when u have to include " probably " in ur claims . But sure i'll help , Base Goku since sugoroku space destruction clears .
@@humanman9920 man super's power creep is just ridiculous it's not even gt being weak. Base Goku would actually win against ss4 if we're putting bias aside
You could maybe throw the music into the editing instead of like having it cut off a lot
That’s the best fight that’s actually true,next on the list dbz super saiyan Goku from Frieza saga vs vegeta,nappa and raditz from saiyan saga (but it’s accurate)
W fight bro 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This is the best cinematic db fight in a game and the first, you did very amazing.
This right is a piece of art
Do these videos are so good! I’m so impressed with the editing! Please keep these coming
It was great, but realistically Super Goku would only have to use his normal form. Goku in super absorbed the energy from his friends first when the ritual failed, and then became super Saiyan God after that. And on top of that, base Goku is way stronger than he was in SSG when he fought against Beerus
This was the best one I’ve seen honestly and it’s super accurate Kaioken is Goku secret technique when he applies it to UI it’s GG
he cant use it with ui if he does his body is gonna go through too much strain and hes gonna get paralyzed
This is just a debate between Super and GT! And I love it!
Dude this was amazing i wish i got my popcorn ready beforehand 😢❤
I love your work man keep it up...Try doing broly and kefla fight next..and also broly vs ui
This was clean
Underrated FOR SURE
These transitions🔥🔥🔥
Loved it!! It was super enjoyable to watch:D
Sick, sick with a cape, some might say, _super sick._ 🐦💚
Your editing is always epic.
Now do goku locked and betrayed inside time chamber vs base cabba
So, that intro with Zeno and Whis's dad? Is that supposed to be something from a tournament function within the game?
About time someone made it real
It’s accurate if it’s Baby Saga Goku, Super 17 Saga Goku would need UI to beat and Shadow Dragons Saga Goku got some ridiculous amps like his Base form scaling over his S17 arc SSJ4 self by the time he fights Nouva Shenron and then his SSJ4 getting major amps by the time he fights Sun so idk if even MUI could match him power for power
Dope video and choreography none the less
Oh god a sweaty powerscaler 💀
Nope , Baby arc Base Goku performs a stronger feat all of dbs .
Sugoroku space is an established infinite " between space and time " as well as life and death .
Best we've seen from dbs is couple feats from some of the strongest characters going above space and time , like dbs Goku needing UI to shake world of void which is above space and time , not even destroying let alone it not even having another layer of transcendence being above binary oppositions like life and death that sugoroku space was .
Dbs Goku so far can't beat Base Goku from Baby arc .
Let alone Ssj4 Goku in his first appearance tanking a bigger version of RDB than its first showing which already went from living world in the bottom of db universe sphere to subspace which is stated to have no concept of space and time , to warp Goku into sugoroku space which is between space and time and life and death as well .
Even if Dbs characters went from living world to world of void with sheer power , that'd still be a league below RDB .
@@humanman9920 dude just shut up
@@scanchannel3259
>respectful, accurate and valid information while still praising thr video
"Wah wahhh sweaty powerscaler wahh wahh 😭😭😭😭🤓"
Goku GT SSJ 4 >>> Goku super SSJ bleu kayokin
1100% correct. Gt goku>>>>
Awesome, the next accurate can be cooler vs broly dbz canon
Well then, no limit break to hold out this SSJ4 Goku all the way to the end😅
GT Goku wins imo. Because Shenron by just existing could destroy the macrocosm while Goku even in SSB needs to power up and fight to shake or destroy the macrocosm. Only UI Goku could shake something similar to macrocosm like world of void by existing. But MUI Goku defeats him.
You know the video was made for fun right?
@@scanchannel3259U know it has " accurate " in the title right ?
Pay attention to the sugoroku space episodes . Base GT Goku simply wins ever since he destroyed that. Dbs best feats have transcendence over space and time , sugoroku space had that as well as over life and death .
Gt goku>>>dbs goku
Dbgt would stomps dbs goku.
That was Pretty Accurate
🤡🤡🤡🤡
Omg this is lit 🔥
This just confirms that a ssg2 kaioken is stronger than a primal saiyan.
If only said primal saiyan had an extra from like super saiyan 5 or an ascended saiyan 4 that be cool.
But no doubt if the saiyan god had ui let alone omen it be over before it even started, I wished ssj2 had some time to shine in this.
This confirms NOTHING, it's just gameplay... 💀
@ I know I just wanted to see if anyone would add to this 🤣
If it was accurate super Goku would stay in base
love the guys going accurate even tho base gt goku has the best feats other than Heroes Goku
How did u get the voices?
Just gonna point out goku needed blue with vegeta to beat the trio de dangers who aren’t even as strong as fat buu
Ok so?
Def fire
Can you do Golden Great Ape Baby vs Hirudegarn but accurate?
Peak cinema
Normal SSJ2 Super Goku would've wiped the floor with SSJ4 😂. Ssj Goku was able to keep up with Beerus right after the clash that would've destroyed the whole universe, absorbing the God Ki within. What has SSJ4 done that was universal? Nothing.
it's just a fight what's the problem?
@@samson4283 the problem is with the video title "accurate" when it's not at all.
Accurate to what exactly?
Canon
@@wolfherojohnson2766what canon? Super and GT have literally only ever met in non canon material like video games and even then SSJ4 keeps up with God until MUI via DB SH
@@Sheriff_Curtisaccurate to power scaling most likely
@@AxeBreaker0Precisly
@@AxeBreaker0 once again to what canon. because all official sources say that he needs ui to win those and super is too inconsistent to power scale.
I do think Super Goku wins but I prefer GT Goku by a huge margin he’s a much better Goku and a good successor for dbz Goku
Ooh this was really good but tbh.....ss4 Goku really should be relative to ssg Goku's tier of power...and im being nice. Anything above that would be too much but i really enjoyed this. No one held back.
How? Why would Ssj 4 be relative to Ssj god?
@@malacoda9421I kinda get his point. As strong as SSG goku is, gotta remember that Ssj4 goku is years after super if I recall correctly and even then is yhe absolute peak of the primal nature of the saiyans. But you can make a case for both.
Well I'm not a GT fanboy or anything but:
SSJ4 is basically a combination of Great Ape+SSJ.SSG is base+god ki and even if god ki is superior to mortal ki,keep in mind that non-god ki characters like Frieza,Jiren,Broly,Kefla,Ultimate Gohan,Android 17 and Hit managed to surpass or fight evenly with Goku in his SSJB form which is SSG+SSJ added on top and far above god form.
SSJ4 form gives Goku the raw power he needs for the battle.SSJ God also gives Goku the raw power,however it seems to be focused more on speed,agility and an energy efficient form.If we consider the Goku black arc in manga and TOP arc in anime,Goku and Vegeta have utilized God-Blue switch for defense and offense.
So SSJ4 Goku should have a slight advantage due to raw power despite the god ki, in terms of agility SSG Goku has the advantage.
@@DivinerosegokublackBecause all of the characters in DBS are scaled around SSB level and higher based on your logic. All of the characters in GT are scaled around SSJ4. You really can’t compare and contrast between both of them and in all honesty, Super really takes the win on this despite the crazy sporadic nonsense DBS has going on.
@Promisent Well yeah,I guess some DBGT really cannot accept that SSG Goku>SSJ4 Goku
Gt goes where it should against ssg and SSB, into the garbage. 🗑️
Yep
Super Goku’s getting folded but I love this
The transition into Goku’s Rush attack at 3:31 is clean
LOL no
@@deotic GT Goku is too strong.
Xeno Goku and CC Goku are his strongest versions but GT Goku Is right behind them.
Super Goku is not Twin universal.
End of GT Goku is beyond Multiversal just by Feats alone.
@@malacoda9421😂😂😂 nice joke
@@malacoda9421 he’s not beyond Multiversal he’s just Multiversal as is DBS Anime Goku
Exactly 💯
Nah. Crab about it dbs fanboy
Ssj4 is equal to ssjb
But kaioken puts super Goku ahead
so whats the lore here is gt a seperate universe like universe 13 and there in the tournament of power so now goku and his friends fight there alternative versions of themselves
Is x10 kamehameha just normal kamehameha but 10x stronger? Hows it compare to super kamehameha. Or kamehameha x20 kaioken.
10x multiplier on regular kamehameha .
Super Goku would beat him with a tap of his finger without transforming
Right? I feel like Goku at this point in Super would flick Super Saiyan 4 in his base form and I'm a GT guy
@@johnwalker09 anime super Goku maybe manga ...nope there goku never absorbed ssj god into base so their mortal forms are not that much stronger than in the buu saga
In the manga it would probably start with super goku in ssj and GT goku in base once super goku goes to ssj2 or ssj3 GT goku would need ssj once super goku goes god tho GT goku would need ssj4 but they would be relative untill super goku goes ssj blue but due to its massive stamina issues in the manga if GT goku can survive for a short while the insanely strong attacks from super goku he would drain upto being weaker than in ssj god as it happened to vegeta against hit making it a close fight
To sumarize ssj blue is massively stronger but has worse stamina
At least in the manga the anime would be unfair since blue has perfect ki control + kaioken
@@danielgonzalez-vm5lj Super Saiyan 4 is not relative to God it's in another realm of power
Last i checked an opposite day doesn't exist , Base Goku Baby arc clears
#1: SS4 will always be cooler.
#2: Can we stop pretending there’s a comparison? DB has absolutely no power scaling rules anymore. Nothing makes any sense. Reasonably one would assume Blue is far more powerful (thats absolute), but, I mean… just consume any of the DB content of the last 5 years. It’s all nonsense. At this point we should just enjoy it like we used to play with action figures.
Should've turned off the hud
Wait can this Goku use Kaioken blue or no
Yes
Not accurate. GT Goku is more powerful than Z super saiyajin 3, and the super saiyajin 3 shaked heaven by growing the ki. Also base Goku solos Freeza and Cell in the hell, that confirms the first argmt.
Someone canonically weaker than end of Z Goku beating someone stronger than End of Z Goku. Totally believable
Sure Gt tard keep to cope
bro it's not so simple.
Goku Gt had the handicap of being a child but his power level and combat finesse was operleveled because of the training during the timeskip.
The handicap ACTUALLY is useful to getting him on par with Goku Super because without that he has a level of power too much high.
@ you know what disprove your whole point?feats goku super has done so much better feats than Gt it’s hilarious
@@maorfahima7315 I can vibe with that but at the same time dragonball super is inconsistent with its feats.
People should be over the speed of light by the beginning of Bu saga and now that we are "divinity level" the warriors fight the same fucking way they fought from the beginning of Namek.
I know that Goku and Beerus shook entire galaxies but at the end of the day is nothing short of "meh" because people like Broly, Jiren and Cell Max are so much more stronger than people during "Battle of Gods" and yet they seem far weaker.
Bro forgot that GT ain't even canon yet he out here trying to speak "canon"
Gt goku would get his arse whooped real bad but still nice edit though
Sorry to break to ya bud , all of dbs Goku getting rekt by Base GT Goku ever since sugoroku space destruction .
Except GT Goku would wreck Super Goku even if Super Goku went Ultra Instinct
Yep
Calm down power scaler. No need to cry that GT goku loses
Let go of your childhood. We all need to grow up.
Honestly, I think Super Saiyan God is more than enough for Super Goku to defeat GT Goku. Anything above that is excessive.
I don't think that is accurate bro
Gt goku also has another form
Full power ssj 4
He got that when he was fighting baby and when pan, gotan, gohan gave their energy to goku.
And goku was able to unlock full power ssj 4.
Also
Base gt goku was stronger than ssj 3 goku.
Inaccurate
Not accurate, base Super Goku one taps that GT fodder
Gt kid base goku enough for god goku
Base Goku from Baby arc clears the dbs fodder
It was accurate but i wanted to see UI Goku, That wouldve destroyed SS4 goku😊
Ssj4 goku would never push him that point. Kaioken would have been enough
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@@nightraid7644if ur counting god ki
Base is enough
If it was accurate super Goku one shots 😂
To be real if they re canon ss4 they going to buff it to at least ssb or ssb evo power lvl. god Ki doesn’t mean jack. Dbsh not canon but it’s lowkey a good example
If it was accurate Dbs Goku would see a glimpse of Base GT Goku before realising he's standing in front of King Yemma .
Accu- what now ? GT Goku wins in base .
Nan, more like inaccurate