this is so unfair, this laptop is $1800 USD which is roughly $2300 AUD. here in australia, it costs $3500 AUD at my local JB Hi Fi!!! that converts to about $2700 USD! WHAT IS THIS
Who's complaining? I was implying that if i bought them all, I would putting my entire family into debt for like a week. Besides, what's so bad about Roblox?
FFrypan Me. But you can save up bit by bit if you have the patience. Only problem is that we have to make sure that the laptop is worth all the effort we spend :(
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@@sawkoeko9712 problem is there's no best buy in our country. Asus zephyrus g14 looks promising though at 1499. In our country you gotta need to add $200 more for the us price to buy the same device. Hope that when I saved enough, the device I'm gonna pick last me for 3-5 years.
Im going to get it this week, i guess Windows is installed on the m2 ssd slot, and i have an ssd from my current notebook with all my stuff, i know the m2 drive is faster and it should be the boot option, do u know how can i clone my ssd to the m2, i did with my old hard drive, but since the windows is installed in the m2 i dnt know if its going to work
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Anyone knows if this laptop supports another M2 NVMe SSD? Bought this one instead of an Alienware M15 during Black Friday. Hope it is better than the other.
Hey Dave I just wanna say you are a huge influence on me. I bought the Asus Zephyrus GTX1080 soon after your review and I have to say my experience is 100% accurate as what you described. You are a very technical and objective youtuber. I find myself enjoying your content more and more. Thank you for your awesome work and hope to break 2m soon!
CharmingHomer The flex is not even bad and the trackpad has already had a firmware update. None of your reasons are deal breakers honestly. But nitpicking is the name of the game. My only complaint is needing to remove the motherboard, but again it’s not terribly difficult.
i used a macbook pro for 4 years, used the trackpad a lot. I just got a gs65 and have used it for a couple weeks now. the touch works like a charm i don't really feel a difference tbh. It's not that big of a deal.
CharmingHomer wow. It's like you took to heart literally the only minor flaws this laptop has.. the flex is only at the top where you aren't really going to press 😂
I know it's been a while but I thought I would clear up a point. GSync doesn't work *at all* past the refresh rate of the monitor. So that comment doesn't make any sense. All that GSync, or any adaptive sync screen, does is adjust the monitors refresh rate to the FPS of the full-screen application *up to* 144hz in this case. So if your game is running at 130fps it will set the refresh rate to 130hz. This removes screen tearing and dropped visual frames. As soon as you exceed 144 frames any adaptive sync is useless as you're running past what the screen can draw. 60fps+ only matters on a 60hz display per the aforementioned functionality. Now, regular v-sync is different, it will cap the frame rate at the monitors refresh rate. Usually adaptive sync (GSync or Freesync) work together with v-sync to ensure that the display is always outputting exactly what it needs to, no more, no less. To summarize, unless this Laptop can run all games at 144fps all the time, some form adaptive sync is useful for getting rid of screen tearing and frame stuttering caused by the monitor running ahead of the gfx chip at 144hz. I don't understand why they would put a 144hz panel in there with no form of adaptive sync if games are only getting up to 70fps.
That's because if they did that it would cause the battery to last much less than the usual 6-7 hours I get from my workloads, which I am extremely grateful for. I think anyone who is looking for a laptop values portability and battery life over minimal screen-tearing when playing games.
Hey Dave, Just bought the RTX 2060 version the other day from Best Buy while it was on sale for $1650. I have a pretty beefy desktop at my house but I travel a lot and wanted something I could game on, and since my Dell Vostro from like 6 years ago was starting to get long in the tooth I pulled the trigger on this. I love that it is subtle enough that I can use it at work and in Masters classes and it doesn't scream GAMER! The battery is better than expected, I can be away from a wall for a little over 6 to 6 1/2 hours without an issue. The performance is more than adequate, but I will likely be upgrading to dual channel ram and adding another SSD soon. All in all, I'm very happy with it, and your review was instrumental in me buying this laptop, so I suppose I should say thank you, and MSI should thank you as well haha. Thanks
@Moh_SplodzZ Haven't noticed anything. My one gripe is that I will have to upgrade the ram, since it comes with 16gigs single channel which cripples FPS in certain games. Battlefield V, for example, I'm pegged at 60 FPS, but have seen that with dual channel, I'd be getting closer to 100 with max settings Edit: scratch that, I’m a dumbass. Somewhere in my battlefield settings it was locked at 60fps, switched it to 144 and now I’m getting in the 70s-80s on high settings.
I have the 1060 variant, and mine came in as dual channel 2666mhz 2x8 sticks. Just swapped those out for 2x16gb sticks. I’d assume your 2060 variant would be the same being already dual channel. Its just the earlier models were single channel.
@@oppaoppa9092 Not really sure, I keep it plugged in a lot since thats the only way it utilizes the 2060 (uses integrated graphics to save battery when unplugged). I actually haven't had the battery completely drain even once while I've had it, as the battery is about 6 hours and I'm usually only away from an outlet for 4-5 hours at most.
Looking for a new computer, thinking bout this one, or a macbook pro 15, or a new dell xps 15 (not the 2 in 1) what do you guys think? please help, note: i know mac is not meant for gaming, the only games i really play : heroes of the storm, overwatch, hearthstone.... but i also edit videos and work in photoshop etc etc so please help with choice :) budget is roughly 3000 usd
Is MSI's RNA and customer service decent? I've been deciding over MSI vs Gigabyte vs Asus for the new 6 core max-q laptops and I think RMA/Customer Service is the deciding factor.
im having msi gs65 and for 6 month i have keyboard issue. and when i searching for it in internet. there's more like me. dissapointed with $2000++ MSI Product
MSI is horrible, I live in Canada so service will definitely be slower than the US. Quality, Customer Service =bad. My MSI GS 63’s motherboard died in 1 year and 3 months. Got it replaced. 8 months later, mother board died again. This time, MSI got my laptop and tried to cheat me out for not replacing the motherboard, claiming physical damage and bull crap like that. I kept my laptop in mint condition, the plastic wrap from the beginning was still there. Carry it in case whenever i am out ( hardly out), I treated it with such care. Finally the agreed to not charge me for the mother board, which they wanted $1400 for, the laptop was $1800 when new in 2016. But they claimed that my wifi antenna is broken, my wifi was working perfectly before I sent so I am sure that they must have break it and tried to charge me $100, which I had no choice but agreed to pay. Always though Razer was the worst, but MSI is right behind.
XVI I never owned razer but my friend bought a razer blade and it broke after one and half year. But luckily he bought it at the microsoft store with extended warranty so they refunded him.
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The reason gs65 hardware customizaton access difficult maybe because they make the mb layout facing up, not like any other laptop brand usually do. Actually its pretty good idea, so they could make the air intake grill on top not at the bottom so it won't be a problem if you put the laptop on your lap or on a not solid surface, it won't muffled the intake.
Okay what the hell is up with every UA-cam and the stupid bell notification? At least Dave did it in a subtle way rather than some others who put 'PRESS THE BELL ICON NOW PLS' In the intro of every single video
So the weird thing, I ran my Spyder several times on the screen. I got 97-98% each time. It seems almost impossible but I can only report what the Spyder colorimeter was reading. I noticed that other reviewers also had really high adobe RGB values like 95%+ It is a very good screen but maybe the AHVA panel is throwing off the colorimeter reading
Dave Lee No you're probably right on. The last AHVA panel I had was the same way and it was noticibly more colourful. The resellers probably just have the specs wrong (like they typically do). I am curious now if this is a different panel than the one in the new Zephyrus. I figured all these new laptops were using the same panel but the Zephyrus claims to have an IPS panel with NTSC 72%. It's probably the same panel as the GL503. Did you happen to get the panel ID number on the GS65? Really looking forward to reviewing this one!
@@Dave2D I'm such a huge fan of yours from Nigeria. I have been watching and liking most of your videos for about 2 years now, way before you hit 1 million subs 😉 and hoping that someday, I would be able to save enough to purchase a gaming laptop of my own. Well, my MSI GP73 got delivered to me yesterday and I've been super excited about it. I feel like I owe you some form of gratitude. So, Thank you for all the inspiration you gave to me. 😀
A comparison video would be nice but in my opinion they are not worth it to buy. Unless you have tons of cash to blow or OK with ending up with a $2000 paperweight. MSI and Razer laptops have hardware problems more than they should. Lots of horror stories with Razer but I personally haven’t experienced it myself. My personal experience with MSI GS63 laptop was horrible. My laptop had 2 years warranty. My motherboard died after 1 year and 3 months, got it replaced, and than 8 months later it died again, right before the warranty was out. I bought it a retailer, and around the first year they took care it themselves instead of sending it to MSI. The second time, they sent it out to MSI, MSI tried to cheated me out to not replace the motherboard, the retailer had to fight for it to replace it. My wifi was working fine and they said the wifi antenna broke, and wanted to charge me $100 for it. The probably break it in the process and claim i broke it. I kept my laptop in mint condition and always carry it in a case so I had a hard time trusting them but ended up paying anyway. So MSI customer service is no better than Razer.
xze i have a gs70 stealth 2015, and i’ve had a constant problems. it’s a good laptop no lie, but it’s not one i would buy again, a dell xps would be a dream laptop for me. my stealth has had the paint wear off, hinge break(the hinges are a big problem with msi), driver issues, and my boot ssd switches from taking 1 minute to boot to 10 second boots at will. the razerblade is even worse than msi, they’re a literal paperweight because of their thermals
Kawvy From my experience MSI laptop stay pretty cool for a thin and light but everything else, never buy an MSI again. Here my story: Don’t!! I bought a MSI GS63, mother board died in 1 year 3 months, got it replaced, 8 months later, mother board died again. The second time MSI tried to cheated me out, saying the mother board died because of physical damage, such BS. They wanted to charge me $1400 for that and the laptop cost $1800 new. I kept my laptop in mint condition, even the plastic cover from when I bought it was still there. I always carried it in a padded case, because that thing is fragile as hell. After telling them about how much care I have taken to protect my laptop, they didn’t charge me for mother board replacement. Then they told me my wifi antenna is broken, probably such BS, they probably break it, but it was only $100 and I really don’t have a choice.
Bought this a year or so ago. It is great from a performance standpoint. It looks awesome as well. *However*, the build quality is horrible. The pressure required to click on the track pad feels very inconsistent. Worst part is that the audio jack on mine started having issues few months ago and the warranty is already up. Definitely a hardware issue that is *very* common if you look around online. Tons and tons of posts of others having the same problem.. Bottom line I see why Dave gave this a great review after only spending a short time with it, but in the long term there are definitely more reliable and better quality laptops out there for the price..
I've loved this laptop so its hard to say but you're right on. I've had this unit for about 3 years and after about 2 years of light use the hinges plastic screw housing just sheared off. I still use it daily but I've had to glue the hinges multiple times. I have a setup with a monitor now because i don't want to move it anymore!
I work at a school and students are always asking for this one, but the biggest negative didn't get pointed out here, because you couldn't get into the rear cover. The reverse motherboard makes most of the hardware inaccessible without pulling the whole board. Couple that with MSI only selling a 1 year warranty and we just can't recommend this to college students who aren't always the most careful with their laptops.
Just got this bad boy for $1000 flat because it was an open box. Previous owner had it for less than 24 hours and it was discounted because he lost the manual. Super happy with it.
Aequitaserz I think it does support but it's useless as thunderbolt charging is capped at 100 W and this beast needs much more than that to charge while gaming
This VS the MSI PS63 Modern - Looking at more Creative content than gaming. But is the 1050 GTX worth it on the modern? or Should i spend the extra and sacrifice the '16-hours' Battery life for better performance with the GS65?
Hey Dave, if im looking to mostly edit 4k footage in Premiere and do some light gaming. Which would you recommend? the Aero15x, or the GS65? is the battery life on the Aero 15x THAT much better?
Paid a hefty premium for this laptop, after 5 months of content creation I am experiencing hinge problems and the chassis is bent. Keep in mind that I take good care of it and use it on a daily basis
Yup, same. Msi needs yet another year or two to perfect this chassis. In addition, at 20C ambient temp, the gpu easily hits 80-85C under full load, not the 69C Dave showed, I am unsure why.
2:56 “This one is very difficult. I’m not saying that it’s impossible, but I couldn’t get in there.” *chuckle* -Dave Lee 3:20 “I’m sure you can get in there, it’s just not an easy thing.” -Dave Lee
I use mine as a work station. Not one game played. Performance is great for UHD video rendering. I also dev AI and ML applications and have the computer running near non-stop. The only thing that sucks is the battery. The built-in battery burned out in about 10 months and wouldn't hold a charge after that. Replacement has to be done by MSI certified or void warranty.
Does the power button work as a fingerprint scanner too in the 2019 version? And if we plug our earphones to the headphone jack only will the mic work while video chatting or gaming?
Great colour combo, the gold looks superb. I have a month left to research before I make my investment and this one is currently on top with the Asus rog strix hero II being second. Top quality video as always btw.
CoffeeAddictGuy I own the msi gs65 and at least on my unit there is almost no backlight bleed. It is only noticeable when the screen is completely black and the room is also dark. Otherwise you will never notice the bleed because it is so little.
ok dave i bought this laptop and u r getting 147 frames on siege and i just cant seem to get that and i really need ur help on how u managed that. my nvidia control panel is missing some options but i just dont understand whats wrong
Nihal Phukan i returned it after the 3rd one and got a desktop apperently the production line is bugged, u can temporarily fix it be reinstalling windows tho
Hi Dave, do you have any problem when gaming on this laptop, in particular, Overwatch? I've only got my hands on the laptop for one day so I test my only game Overwatch but I experience pretty bad FPS drop and stuttering. I tried changing profile to performance in the MSI game centre software and crank up the fan but still experience the same FPS drop and stutter. The game setting is on low for everything, as I play competitively so I don't care much about graphics for a fast moving game like overwatch. I played on a 240hz Benq monitor connected via HDMI but I can hardly get FPS over 140. When the FPS drop happens it goes down to around 100 and the game stutters. My previous laptop, an Asus GL502 with GTX 1060, easily runs at 160+FPS albeit I get the occasional thermal throttle due to poor heating design. I have another issue where the Nivida control panel will only detect the Benq monitor but not the laptop display. Whereas the Intel graphics setting would only detect the laptop display and not the monitor. On the windows display setting, I can see both displays and set to extend to these displays. Do you have the same issues and suggestions on how to fix it? Appreciate if anyone can help, I spend a lot of money on this laptop and it's disappointing that it's not even close to the performance of my last gen Asus ROG GL502. I know the hardware is more than capable as my friend got the Gigabyte Aero 15x v8 which pretty much have the same hardware but he has only tested on the 144hz laptop display. However compared to the Asus GTX1060 the performance gain isn't that much, maybe 10%. For those looking to get this laptop, I agree with a lot of what Dave has said, the build quality is good, very thin, light, portable (relative to my Asus GL502 obviously), and looks great. Screen colour is good, the keyboard feels good although I feel it's a bit shallow, but that's just me. However, compared to the Aero 15 the keyboard feels slightly better, the aero 15 feels slightly mushy. It runs at a much cooler temperature compare to my Asus and similar to Aero 15. The fan can get loud though. The CPU is much faster than the 7th Gen for sure.
I think this thermals in this video are a lie man. That's impossible. And your laptop throttles, that's why you're getting fps drops. Can you please run any rendering program that uses cpu? Install gpu-z and see the temps and voltages. If the graphs look like combs, it's throttling. Please post your results here.
Norton Family by the time I made this comment I didn’t know the new one was out I literally found out like an hour after I made this comment so don’t worry also the new aero 15 and the blade 15 fall under the category of what I just said ( I know the new zephyrus came out already)
MSI has good value to money in term of specs, but poor quality in term of physical, i.e hinge quality is easy to break and crack even when we use it carefully.
What is your favorite laptop ever? I’m trying to get a laptop to last me through the rest of high school and collage but I want to get a good gaming laptop. I want it in between the range of $1000-$2000 or of there is anything below $1000 that is really good then that is fine too. Please help
Really like this one. I hope this black and gold color scheme spreads to more of their lineup. Thanks for watching!
Dave Lee are you planning to review the Dell XPS 15 2-in-1? Thanks
Could you take a look at the Corsair OneBook Pro 14?
DO YOU RATHER THIS ONE OR THE NEW ZEPHYRUS GM501?
Its probably the Asus Zephyrus because it has a 1080 and is thin.I'm not sure about the battery life though?
Reminds me of an hp look
I like gaming laptops that don’t look like gaming laptops
TheWaffleLord same.
TheWaffleLord acer predator is your choice
helios 300 is your alternative choice
Microsoft Surface Book 2 15 inch is a good one >_
Chris Tsai hes joking about predator’s tacky and disgusting “gaming” design
0:58 that was a sick edit.
Mrlegitbeans dave never fails to.impress
sure its easy but it was so smooth and satisfying
Mrlegitbeans I
Mrlegitbeans a
Where can you get the skin?
Man should i pay rent or buy this laptop
Edit: I bought it and im homeless but i can play games nicely
Kyro Raj X
Kyro Raj xaxaxaxa shit man
Kyro Raj I have a gtx 960m laptop and I can play games nicely for 400 euro :D
Ragga Bomb asus gl553vw
I would rather live ina van down by the river and own this laptop.
this is so unfair, this laptop is $1800 USD which is roughly $2300 AUD. here in australia, it costs $3500 AUD at my local JB Hi Fi!!! that converts to about $2700 USD! WHAT IS THIS
you guys probably make more though.
Which JB HIFi? I am in Sydney and most of JB HIFI still selling GS63， I have not see GS65 in any JB HIFI yet...
Xiazhe Yu I’m from Melbourne, its the nearest jb hi fi (in taylors lakes)
maybe I have to get one from Amazon US..MSI seems have a Internationl Warranty Service
Import fees
All of Dave's laptop videos is making me want to get one
I would buy them all but I need a house.
xXIAmaterasuDemonIXx
stop complaining and just finish school and btw.. stop wasting your time on a garbage game like Roblox....
Who's complaining? I was implying that if i bought them all, I would putting my entire family into debt for like a week. Besides, what's so bad about Roblox?
Because he feels human unlike sleazy salesman.
Who else hates being poor?
FFrypan dude i am not rich i am like less than avg but you gotta accept that
FFrypan Me. But you can save up bit by bit if you have the patience. Only problem is that we have to make sure that the laptop is worth all the effort we spend :(
yup life sucks
entice. Oh yeah?how abt when u r i highschool away from home and u ain.t rll swimin in money
FFrypan
Yeah, it sucks....
When dave says that a device is good. It is incredible
I was still saving for it and yes it's 2020 now. 😂
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wtf lol you should buy gs66 than this
Hey the price is now only 1299 on best buy with gtx 1660 ti . Great value
@@sawkoeko9712 problem is there's no best buy in our country. Asus zephyrus g14 looks promising though at 1499. In our country you gotta need to add $200 more for the us price to buy the same device. Hope that when I saved enough, the device I'm gonna pick last me for 3-5 years.
BruhBruh 149 the gs66 kinda sucks, he should get the RTX gs65 2070 or 2080
0:57 that edit is all it took to make me like this video
I just noticed that
I actually liked this review. Your calm attitude made it better. Great review.
I'm glad you nit pick - I'd want to know all the pros AND cons of something like a laptop purchase =)
Can't wait I can buy this laptop in 5 years
Rodrigo Martins sounds about right
I'm buying it as soon as it releases
i started to save some money in 2015 for a gaming pc uptill now i'm not even able catch up to save 1000$
SCREW MY LIFE!
5? More like 29
how old are you?? find work if you are 16+ , i am 16 and i make 250 euro Per month which is pretty good
Dave’s poem describing MSI GS65:
The top bezels are thin,
The side bezels are really thin,
There is a bit of a chin.
It's snowing on Mount Fuji
I stopped my 9-5 with the help of, *e a s y j o b s o n l i n e .c l u b*
Apart from the keyboard font, this laptop is amazing.
Im going to get it this week, i guess Windows is installed on the m2 ssd slot, and i have an ssd from my current notebook with all my stuff, i know the m2 drive is faster and it should be the boot option, do u know how can i clone my ssd to the m2, i did with my old hard drive, but since the windows is installed in the m2 i dnt know if its going to work
Does anyone else wish he continued the my laptop setup series?
Apparently not....he
yes...
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This looks so sweet!
Review The Cheapest True!
I want to eat it
except those gap between the hinge :/
I like how subtle the notification reminder was. Good to see Dave doesn't start his video with the usual youtuber shit.
You mean like the usual obnoxious and loud "WHUUUUT is up guys it's your boy x here" Etc.
Damn straight.
Anyone knows if this laptop supports another M2 NVMe SSD? Bought this one instead of an Alienware M15 during Black Friday. Hope it is better than the other.
Hey Dave I just wanna say you are a huge influence on me. I bought the Asus Zephyrus GTX1080 soon after your review and I have to say my experience is 100% accurate as what you described. You are a very technical and objective youtuber. I find myself enjoying your content more and more. Thank you for your awesome work and hope to break 2m soon!
I loved it but I'm already subbed. What do I do?
Double sub - double negative. It cancels out so you unsub??? Wait, I think my math is wrong.
Unsub
Then sub again
Sma-sma-sm-SMACK THAT LIKE BUTTON
Like the video
You should be cast as Tintin, and Lew as Captain Haddock 😂
Dave 2Tin*
Mind = Blown
WatchR You just won life
True
90db? That's crazy high for any laptop speaker
Right? It's super loud
You replied
I wonder if it's better than my Y700.
lelouch yagami-both in my two favourite anime
Who cares, you can't compare a smartphone to a laptop.
This used to be my dream laptop
Why is this guy’s voice so soothing
This model looks very good!
CharmingHomer The flex is not even bad and the trackpad has already had a firmware update. None of your reasons are deal breakers honestly. But nitpicking is the name of the game. My only complaint is needing to remove the motherboard, but again it’s not terribly difficult.
I have it, and the trackpad is perfectly fine. Way better than my XPS 15.
CharmingHomer ITS A APPLE FANBOOY REEEEEE
i used a macbook pro for 4 years, used the trackpad a lot. I just got a gs65 and have used it for a couple weeks now. the touch works like a charm i don't really feel a difference tbh. It's not that big of a deal.
CharmingHomer wow. It's like you took to heart literally the only minor flaws this laptop has.. the flex is only at the top where you aren't really going to press 😂
good placement for AC connector. Cant wait for the new model next year and AC plug located in the middle of the keyboard!
Stocklee Imagine it being inside the laptop itself.
I guess they had to put it there for whatever reason. It's really bugging me as it should all rightys.
0:58 Now Dave can instantly remove marks from his laptop in a single move.
Showe the secrets of your dark magic!
I know it's been a while but I thought I would clear up a point. GSync doesn't work *at all* past the refresh rate of the monitor. So that comment doesn't make any sense. All that GSync, or any adaptive sync screen, does is adjust the monitors refresh rate to the FPS of the full-screen application *up to* 144hz in this case. So if your game is running at 130fps it will set the refresh rate to 130hz. This removes screen tearing and dropped visual frames. As soon as you exceed 144 frames any adaptive sync is useless as you're running past what the screen can draw. 60fps+ only matters on a 60hz display per the aforementioned functionality. Now, regular v-sync is different, it will cap the frame rate at the monitors refresh rate. Usually adaptive sync (GSync or Freesync) work together with v-sync to ensure that the display is always outputting exactly what it needs to, no more, no less.
To summarize, unless this Laptop can run all games at 144fps all the time, some form adaptive sync is useful for getting rid of screen tearing and frame stuttering caused by the monitor running ahead of the gfx chip at 144hz. I don't understand why they would put a 144hz panel in there with no form of adaptive sync if games are only getting up to 70fps.
That's because if they did that it would cause the battery to last much less than the usual 6-7 hours I get from my workloads, which I am extremely grateful for. I think anyone who is looking for a laptop values portability and battery life over minimal screen-tearing when playing games.
Damn.....
3:00, the SSD runs at SATA 3 speeds? Is that just because it's an engineering sample, or do production units have this issue?
Hey Dave,
Just bought the RTX 2060 version the other day from Best Buy while it was on sale for $1650. I have a pretty beefy desktop at my house but I travel a lot and wanted something I could game on, and since my Dell Vostro from like 6 years ago was starting to get long in the tooth I pulled the trigger on this.
I love that it is subtle enough that I can use it at work and in Masters classes and it doesn't scream GAMER! The battery is better than expected, I can be away from a wall for a little over 6 to 6 1/2 hours without an issue. The performance is more than adequate, but I will likely be upgrading to dual channel ram and adding another SSD soon.
All in all, I'm very happy with it, and your review was instrumental in me buying this laptop, so I suppose I should say thank you, and MSI should thank you as well haha.
Thanks
Kevin does it thermal throttle or heat up alot
@Moh_SplodzZ Haven't noticed anything. My one gripe is that I will have to upgrade the ram, since it comes with 16gigs single channel which cripples FPS in certain games. Battlefield V, for example, I'm pegged at 60 FPS, but have seen that with dual channel, I'd be getting closer to 100 with max settings
Edit: scratch that, I’m a dumbass. Somewhere in my battlefield settings it was locked at 60fps, switched it to 144 and now I’m getting in the 70s-80s on high settings.
I have the 1060 variant, and mine came in as dual channel 2666mhz 2x8 sticks. Just swapped those out for 2x16gb sticks. I’d assume your 2060 variant would be the same being already dual channel. Its just the earlier models were single channel.
@@jeffdmsl No unfortunately, I ran a hardware scan and it is indeed single channel 16gb
@@oppaoppa9092 Not really sure, I keep it plugged in a lot since thats the only way it utilizes the 2060 (uses integrated graphics to save battery when unplugged). I actually haven't had the battery completely drain even once while I've had it, as the battery is about 6 hours and I'm usually only away from an outlet for 4-5 hours at most.
Is it just me or should this new aesthetic be used for all their laptops??
50+ likes on a Dave2D video, momma I made it
Yes please it's amazing
I think it should! This is way sleeker and I do like its looks.
Yes, except the speakers place.
3:19 that's what she said
old but gold
Dave you are the nicest guy on youtube, not attitude just facts and such a pleasure to watch. thanks for another great video!
I absolutely love your reviews, so detailed
Looking for a new computer, thinking bout this one, or a macbook pro 15, or a new dell xps 15 (not the 2 in 1) what do you guys think? please help,
note: i know mac is not meant for gaming, the only games i really play : heroes of the storm, overwatch, hearthstone....
but i also edit videos and work in photoshop etc etc so please help with choice :) budget is roughly 3000 usd
Lenovo X1 extreme
why do you all release these videos when I am about to sleep? T_T now i need to watch this with the linus one too
allaricluy lol because he lives in the other side of the planet
Linus says that the g-sync hardware is inside and that it could be activated unofficially
But where u live tho?
the UK
allaricluy so what time is it then?at me 23.40(11.40)(sry,not that good at geography)
Is MSI's RNA and customer service decent? I've been deciding over MSI vs Gigabyte vs Asus for the new 6 core max-q laptops and I think RMA/Customer Service is the deciding factor.
im having msi gs65 and for 6 month i have keyboard issue. and when i searching for it in internet. there's more like me. dissapointed with $2000++ MSI Product
MSI is horrible, I live in Canada so service will definitely be slower than the US. Quality, Customer Service =bad.
My MSI GS 63’s motherboard died in 1 year and 3 months. Got it replaced. 8 months later, mother board died again. This time, MSI got my laptop and tried to cheat me out for not replacing the motherboard, claiming physical damage and bull crap like that. I kept my laptop in mint condition, the plastic wrap from the beginning was still there. Carry it in case whenever i am out ( hardly out), I treated it with such care.
Finally the agreed to not charge me for the mother board, which they wanted $1400 for, the laptop was $1800 when new in 2016. But they claimed that my wifi antenna is broken, my wifi was working perfectly before I sent so I am sure that they must have break it and tried to charge me $100, which I had no choice but agreed to pay.
Always though Razer was the worst, but MSI is right behind.
xze what’s your experience with razer? I was thinking about getting the new razer blade 15.
XVI I never owned razer but my friend bought a razer blade and it broke after one and half year. But luckily he bought it at the microsoft store with extended warranty so they refunded him.
xze ohhh okay thanks
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Great review. This is the first time i will be commenting on a review video because I think the reviewer is very good on his craft. Keep it mate.
Please please Review the new gigabytes aero 15 studio 8core i9 2080 rtx , i am witting for you professional review before I buy it
MSI LAPTOPS Are Back With Another Light-Weight and Powerful Laptop: www.techharry.com/post/msi-modern-14-a10rb-review-a-thin-and-light-productivity-powerhouse
The reason gs65 hardware customizaton access difficult maybe because they make the mb layout facing up, not like any other laptop brand usually do. Actually its pretty good idea, so they could make the air intake grill on top not at the bottom so it won't be a problem if you put the laptop on your lap or on a not solid surface, it won't muffled the intake.
Such an amazing and detailed review. Inspired by you.
Thank you for doing this review! I just got this laptop and I already love it!
Victor Boesen how is it now a year later?
Just bought mine. Excited!!!
Do a video on the dell G Series laptops; they are really good!
Okay what the hell is up with every UA-cam and the stupid bell notification? At least Dave did it in a subtle way rather than some others who put 'PRESS THE BELL ICON NOW PLS' In the intro of every single video
Nice Review Dave. aRGB 97%? Is that legit? All other manufacturers with that same screen are saying 72% NTSC which is roughly the same % in aRGB
So the weird thing, I ran my Spyder several times on the screen. I got 97-98% each time. It seems almost impossible but I can only report what the Spyder colorimeter was reading. I noticed that other reviewers also had really high adobe RGB values like 95%+
It is a very good screen but maybe the AHVA panel is throwing off the colorimeter reading
Dave Lee No you're probably right on. The last AHVA panel I had was the same way and it was noticibly more colourful. The resellers probably just have the specs wrong (like they typically do). I am curious now if this is a different panel than the one in the new Zephyrus. I figured all these new laptops were using the same panel but the Zephyrus claims to have an IPS panel with NTSC 72%. It's probably the same panel as the GL503. Did you happen to get the panel ID number on the GS65? Really looking forward to reviewing this one!
@@Dave2D I'm such a huge fan of yours from Nigeria. I have been watching and liking most of your videos for about 2 years now, way before you hit 1 million subs 😉 and hoping that someday, I would be able to save enough to purchase a gaming laptop of my own. Well, my MSI GP73 got delivered to me yesterday and I've been super excited about it. I feel like I owe you some form of gratitude. So, Thank you for all the inspiration you gave to me. 😀
@@Hurpsy Nice dude! How do you like the laptop?
@@Oraclethingy I love it. Everything just works flawlessly.
Just bought this laptop and I'm hella excited for it to arrive!
MSI PS42 8M is also a goodGaming Laptop. Get the specs here: ua-cam.com/video/DOIe1zRyzKw/v-deo.html
Love the reviews. Best laptop in your opinion for 1500-1600 or less for moderate gaming and work use ?
Compare the Razer blade (2019) and msi gs65 (2019)
A comparison video would be nice but in my opinion they are not worth it to buy. Unless you have tons of cash to blow or OK with ending up with a $2000 paperweight.
MSI and Razer laptops have hardware problems more than they should. Lots of horror stories with Razer but I personally haven’t experienced it myself.
My personal experience with MSI GS63 laptop was horrible. My laptop had 2 years warranty. My motherboard died after 1 year and 3 months, got it replaced, and than 8 months later it died again, right before the warranty was out. I bought it a retailer, and around the first year they took care it themselves instead of sending it to MSI. The second time, they sent it out to MSI, MSI tried to cheated me out to not replace the motherboard, the retailer had to fight for it to replace it. My wifi was working fine and they said the wifi antenna broke, and wanted to charge me $100 for it. The probably break it in the process and claim i broke it. I kept my laptop in mint condition and always carry it in a case so I had a hard time trusting them but ended up paying anyway.
So MSI customer service is no better than Razer.
Stanislav Knyazev lol what’s wrong with 1080p 144hz/240hz or OLED 4K?
blade is wildly overpriced
xze i have a gs70 stealth 2015, and i’ve had a constant problems. it’s a good laptop no lie, but it’s not one i would buy again, a dell xps would be a dream laptop for me. my stealth has had the paint wear off, hinge break(the hinges are a big problem with msi), driver issues, and my boot ssd switches from taking 1 minute to boot to 10 second boots at will. the razerblade is even worse than msi, they’re a literal paperweight because of their thermals
TuxKat their thermals are pretty good lol?
The Screen Of This Laptop Curved At 3:49
So, what?
Looks a bit like lens distortion to me.
Mr. GareebTheGamer yeah there are some laptops that have curved screens
How did you notice this tiny detail?
Viviane B,,,,,
Ummmm....I Don't Know...
:D
Does it really have 97% AdobeRGB coverage? there are also 2080 max q and 1660ti versions, do they have the same screen?
One word.. IT'S AWESOME! and is certainly my next laptop. Thanks Dave.
I need this laptop
Zephyrus m and Aero 15x are objectively better
Except for its poor thermals, keyboard ergonomics, and speakers
Edit: Referring to only the aero 15x here
Kawvy shut up
@@nortonfamily6711 but need to shell out few more real bucks for em. :P
Kawvy From my experience MSI laptop stay pretty cool for a thin and light but everything else, never buy an MSI again.
Here my story:
Don’t!!
I bought a MSI GS63, mother board died in 1 year 3 months, got it replaced, 8 months later, mother board died again.
The second time MSI tried to cheated me out, saying the mother board died because of physical damage, such BS. They wanted to charge me $1400 for that and the laptop cost $1800 new. I kept my laptop in mint condition, even the plastic cover from when I bought it was still there. I always carried it in a padded case, because that thing is fragile as hell. After telling them about how much care I have taken to protect my laptop, they didn’t charge me for mother board replacement.
Then they told me my wifi antenna is broken, probably such BS, they probably break it, but it was only $100 and I really don’t have a choice.
Finally Dave's wish of having a good gaming laptop without red accents came true
Bought this a year or so ago. It is great from a performance standpoint. It looks awesome as well. *However*, the build quality is horrible. The pressure required to click on the track pad feels very inconsistent. Worst part is that the audio jack on mine started having issues few months ago and the warranty is already up. Definitely a hardware issue that is *very* common if you look around online. Tons and tons of posts of others having the same problem.. Bottom line I see why Dave gave this a great review after only spending a short time with it, but in the long term there are definitely more reliable and better quality laptops out there for the price..
I've loved this laptop so its hard to say but you're right on. I've had this unit for about 3 years and after about 2 years of light use the hinges plastic screw housing just sheared off. I still use it daily but I've had to glue the hinges multiple times. I have a setup with a monitor now because i don't want to move it anymore!
I work at a school and students are always asking for this one, but the biggest negative didn't get pointed out here, because you couldn't get into the rear cover. The reverse motherboard makes most of the hardware inaccessible without pulling the whole board. Couple that with MSI only selling a 1 year warranty and we just can't recommend this to college students who aren't always the most careful with their laptops.
Finally after 2 years again I am seeing this review but in my Msi GS65😊 Thank you Dave❤
I just got one :D :D :D SO EXCITED
Dave i'd like to say that u r really one of the best reviewers i've ever seen in my life
I want a 17.3" bezel-free gaming laptop with the footprint of 15.6" laptop!!!
It's here. Aero 17.
Picked one up yesterday. Thanks for the review!
Ryan R how is it 10 months later?
Just got this bad boy for $1000 flat because it was an open box. Previous owner had it for less than 24 hours and it was discounted because he lost the manual. Super happy with it.
Hi Dave, great review! May I ask if you know the MSI laptop Thunderbolt USB C support power delivery? Can it be charged using USB C chargers?
Aequitaserz I think it does support but it's useless as thunderbolt charging is capped at 100 W and this beast needs much more than that to charge while gaming
Dave, have you ever screamed at your pc?
stevenisthename aw a chibi Drogoz
stevenisthename Dave never screams at anything, other than his penis.
stevenisthename I can’t imagine Dave screaming at anything
that is a weird thing for you to know about
HyperlordXP xP
Best looking laptop I've ever seen.
nubajj i still think Alienwares are the coolest
Na razer balde pro..i hope the next blade pro will have bazeless display
Speaking of Razor any idea when the 2018 17 version shows up?
ThinkPad
And the thicker one.
This VS the MSI PS63 Modern - Looking at more Creative content than gaming. But is the 1050 GTX worth it on the modern? or Should i spend the extra and sacrifice the '16-hours' Battery life for better performance with the GS65?
Hey Dave, if im looking to mostly edit 4k footage in Premiere and do some light gaming. Which would you recommend? the Aero15x, or the GS65? is the battery life on the Aero 15x THAT much better?
when you've viewed this review a thousand times.
Paid a hefty premium for this laptop, after 5 months of content creation I am experiencing hinge problems and the chassis is bent. Keep in mind that I take good care of it and use it on a daily basis
What about the battery life? how many hours are you getting?
@@mikenight3096 6hrs on 1080p video stream. 1hrs 30 mins gaming
Yup, same. Msi needs yet another year or two to perfect this chassis. In addition, at 20C ambient temp, the gpu easily hits 80-85C under full load, not the 69C Dave showed, I am unsure why.
2:56
“This one is very difficult. I’m not saying that it’s impossible, but I couldn’t get in there.” *chuckle*
-Dave Lee
3:20
“I’m sure you can get in there, it’s just not an easy thing.”
-Dave Lee
Definitely bought mine because of your video
Can u export 4k videos on that laptop. Awesome video btw👌💪
Please wanna know if this laptop is Good for #3Dsmax Vray CAD rendering work ???
It's gaming laptop not work station. You need a workstation for that.
It will run those programs very smoothly, you don't need a 10.000usd workstation to do the job.
I use mine as a work station. Not one game played. Performance is great for UHD video rendering. I also dev AI and ML applications and have the computer running near non-stop. The only thing that sucks is the battery. The built-in battery burned out in about 10 months and wouldn't hold a charge after that. Replacement has to be done by MSI certified or void warranty.
Can you comment about the thermals on it? Do you have issues with overheating?
hey mate, can you review MSI GL63 8SDK, I cannot find any streams from any reviewer regarding this model.
Adios, Peace.
Dave, I have seen that in other videos that the cpu temps get up to 90ºC. How come in your video it is a much lower temp?
OG Ghost he undervolts his laptops.
Wirbelfeld how much did he undervolt?
Maybe room temperature
Update ur bios
You can actually remove that logo with nail polish remover / acetone, instead of getting a skin. Works like a charm.
Does the power button work as a fingerprint scanner too in the 2019 version?
And if we plug our earphones to the headphone jack only will the mic work while video chatting or gaming?
0:58 WHAT IS THIS DARK MAGIC?!
Called editing
Great colour combo, the gold looks superb.
I have a month left to research before I make my investment and this one is currently on top with the Asus rog strix hero II being second.
Top quality video as always btw.
Play Time did you get to buy it? If so, is it good and worth its price?
What do u do to this laptops when u have so many if you just throw it away . Throw to my place
great stuff Dave!
Great video review, thank you 😊
hey Dave! can you please tell us if there are any backlight bleed on this beast?
CoffeeAddictGuy I own the msi gs65 and at least on my unit there is almost no backlight bleed. It is only noticeable when the screen is completely black and the room is also dark. Otherwise you will never notice the bleed because it is so little.
ok dave i bought this laptop and u r getting 147 frames on siege and i just cant seem to get that and i really need ur help on how u managed that. my nvidia control panel is missing some options but i just dont understand whats wrong
How much are you getting now ?
Nihal Phukan i returned it after the 3rd one and got a desktop apperently the production line is bugged, u can temporarily fix it be reinstalling windows tho
Please make a review of 2019 version GTX 1660 ti
Or the 2080 maxq lmao
Dave makes the best laptop reviews.
is the flex a lot worse compared to GS63 models? is it gonna break easily in daily carry in backpack?
1:09 I thought you said Amazon instead of MSI
Hi Dave, do you have any problem when gaming on this laptop, in particular, Overwatch?
I've only got my hands on the laptop for one day so I test my only game Overwatch but I experience pretty bad FPS drop and stuttering. I tried changing profile to performance in the MSI game centre software and crank up the fan but still experience the same FPS drop and stutter. The game setting is on low for everything, as I play competitively so I don't care much about graphics for a fast moving game like overwatch. I played on a 240hz Benq monitor connected via HDMI but I can hardly get FPS over 140. When the FPS drop happens it goes down to around 100 and the game stutters.
My previous laptop, an Asus GL502 with GTX 1060, easily runs at 160+FPS albeit I get the occasional thermal throttle due to poor heating design.
I have another issue where the Nivida control panel will only detect the Benq monitor but not the laptop display. Whereas the Intel graphics setting would only detect the laptop display and not the monitor. On the windows display setting, I can see both displays and set to extend to these displays.
Do you have the same issues and suggestions on how to fix it?
Appreciate if anyone can help, I spend a lot of money on this laptop and it's disappointing that it's not even close to the performance of my last gen Asus ROG GL502. I know the hardware is more than capable as my friend got the Gigabyte Aero 15x v8 which pretty much have the same hardware but he has only tested on the 144hz laptop display. However compared to the Asus GTX1060 the performance gain isn't that much, maybe 10%.
For those looking to get this laptop, I agree with a lot of what Dave has said, the build quality is good, very thin, light, portable (relative to my Asus GL502 obviously), and looks great. Screen colour is good, the keyboard feels good although I feel it's a bit shallow, but that's just me. However, compared to the Aero 15 the keyboard feels slightly better, the aero 15 feels slightly mushy.
It runs at a much cooler temperature compare to my Asus and similar to Aero 15. The fan can get loud though. The CPU is much faster than the 7th Gen for sure.
Daniel Huang I'm still waiting for some reply
I think this thermals in this video are a lie man. That's impossible. And your laptop throttles, that's why you're getting fps drops.
Can you please run any rendering program that uses cpu? Install gpu-z and see the temps and voltages. If the graphs look like combs, it's throttling. Please post your results here.
Try undervolting?
my laptop has the same problems, I fixed it by serviced it at the service center requesting for it and for thermal replace
Daniel Huang if you’re having problems running over watch then there’s something wrong..this laptop can run top of the line games EASILY.
Finally a laptop that can go toe to toe with asus zephyrus maybe not in performance but it wins in battery life build quality better cpu and more
Ever heard of the Aero 15x?
Norton Family by the time I made this comment I didn’t know the new one was out I literally found out like an hour after I made this comment so don’t worry also the new aero 15 and the blade 15 fall under the category of what I just said ( I know the new zephyrus came out already)
Alright thats fair
Norton Family How good is it? I'm planning to buy one of these next month
You won't be disappointed
I have a question about the display of this laptop. Does it really have such a color coverage (Adobe RGB) ?
MSI has good value to money in term of specs, but poor quality in term of physical, i.e hinge quality is easy to break and crack even when we use it carefully.
7:32 where is the link bellow ?
AERO 15 pls!!!! we need to know
Ignacio Garro Aero 15 was year ago
He did it
new update, 6 core CPU, 144 Hz screen or 4K screen its preety dame cool!
aero 15x
both versions are great
What is your favorite laptop ever? I’m trying to get a laptop to last me through the rest of high school and collage but I want to get a good gaming laptop. I want it in between the range of $1000-$2000 or of there is anything below $1000 that is really good then that is fine too. Please help
I’m really liking this one though but idk
Armando Balcazar did you find a laptop? I’m looking at getting this one
Armando Balcazar get Dell xps 15 with 1050 or 1050 ti
Same
Same
I really like your calm voice
thanks a lot for this review now I know what to buy!