JAPANESE TANK DESTROYER TECH TREE - World of Tanks
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- World of Tanks is bringing a new tech tree of Japanese super heavy tank destroyers in update 1.20.1! here's all you need to know about the new tanks!
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Chapters:
0:00 Japanese Tank Destroyers
1:06 Type 3 Ho-Ni III
3:08 Type 95 Ji-Ro
5:43 Chi-To SP
8:54 Ho-Ri 2
11:56 Ho-Ri 1
15:00 Ho-Ri 3 - Ігри
Ji-Ro be feeling like:
"At least its got the armor to defend itself from high explosive shells"
*KV-2 has entered the chat*
@@Tundraviper41 thanks for repeating the joke
@talkingmango8658 Sorry, I removed my comment.
I wish they actually included the more historical tanks from tier 2-5. Sadly it seems they won't ever do that :(
Because noone plays them
Well if you look in War Thunder most of the lower tier tanks are equipped with 12 or 15 cm guns
The most you can hope is them to be reward tanks
@@strategicmind2652 what do the guns have to do with it ?
@@mrfourtwenty8506 well giving them the small guns they historically means they naturally would fit a lower tier, are to be accurate, which as we know isn't popular when playing, it would be weird putting them in a higher tier which obviously is more popular to play, noone would play lower tier tanks, and higher tier tanks would mean wot would have to *makeup */alter alot of the stats just to make them fit in there which also is a no bueno
You should see the Hori 1 in blitz. It has a base top speed of 45kph and reverses at 20kph. The premium AP is busted there, penning 380-399mms of armor. It literally lolpens badgers and kranvagns.
Ikr I was hoping they would have that kind of pen but it close XD and it's so weird tho why on wot PC they always make the tier 10 the tier 9 on blitz bahaha and the tier 10 on blitz is the tier 9 on PC breh
and its armour is immune to gold rounds on quite a few t10s
@@grandadmiralraeder9608 bruh what lol you don't need gold to pen ho ri they just have really troll armor tho
@@BaldEagle777 you do in an E100 - maybe not in the OP premiums, but unless you hit their lower plate (the tier 10 especially) you aint penning their front.
@@grandadmiralraeder9608 I don't have any OP tier 10 premiums all my tier 10s are techtree XD
What a suprise the premium tank has 500 alpha and techtree one has 400. Also the premium is better in every other way...
Excuse you the tech tree has more hp for your enemies to farm off you 😂
I gave in and purchased 50 of the recent loot boxes and so I've been playing the Ka-ri lately and have found it a pretty good tank. The 500 alpha is nice and it has good speed both forward and especially backwards. It's a good performer generally speaking, if you like TDs.
@RoberttAvro that's the issue, because the tech tree tier 8 isn't going to be
I like that they're not just more OP tanks
Which means they’re bad.
Lol.bobject must remain the best;)
WG: upnext. New Japanese tier X TD with 480mm of AP pen because a lot of players complains about too many Armor.
@@tsuaririndoku it won.t pen anything,don.t worry.just another jgpz;)
It doesn't matter. Nowadays balanced = bad in WoT.
They could allow those TDs to use some of the derp guns from heavies, so they could be like SUs
So...make them even worse?
@@gpc_4279 allowing doesn't mean forcing to, they could be a weird option for weird people. It's just simply a missed opportunity.
Tier 8-10 should have a "looping shell" mechanic, which enables shooting low velocity he shells in a shallow ark, making these TD/arty hybrids
remember when the tech tree is better than the premium counterpart yeah we are old
I look forward to your video on the upcoming changes to crew skills.
thanks for the prep work. We can always depend on you to give great initial impressions to prepare for new lines
I've had a play with the Ho-Ri 3 on the test server, and it's quite fun. Reasonably mobile, nice accuracy, nice durability. Doesn't feel over or underpowered, which I think is perfect.
"Super heavy TDs" with lacking frontal armor. I feel like piloting those would just be suffering in that way.... but the Ho-Ri 3's 3,600 dpm (all upgraded) with 700 alpha sounds VERY appealing... Also, a turbo plus field tuning would make that Ho-Ri 3 QUITE fast for a big tank. Not quite 268v4, but pretty quick.
Pretty much the only vehicles in this line that look worthwhile are the tier 7 and the tier 9. Very disappointing.
Interesting to see how WG has done these compared to Blitz…although I think Blitz did them better. Like PC, the Tier 7 is absolutely cracked (or was, it got nerfed a bit) but the Tier 8 is much better- it’s got a ton more mobility so it can play a good support role. The tier 9 and 10 are also pretty good, filling the niche of somewhat mobile armored tanks with good guns.
The tier 10 pc is also pretty good I'd imagine. An ambush tank which has a nice gun with some armor, 21-23 kmh reverse speed depending on your setup, 44 top speed with the engine power to actually able to reach that top speed. Only bad thing is camo, and I guess the upper plate could be a little better but hey we dont want another 268 v4 in the game
you like playing the only two types of tank destroyers there are?
noo in blitz the tier 9 and 10 are broken
@@grandadmiralraeder9608 The Tier 9 is good, but it’s not overpowered at all. The Tier 10 can be very strong but it needs the right player to make it work.
As much as I like blitz, they need to stop adding T8 premiums. This is really off topic but this is the only chance I’m gonna get to say about it for a while, every tank they add always has brilliant turret armour with amazing gun depression and sometimes penetration: because of this they always have hull down gameplay which makes it so unfair for players just trying to progress in the games tech tree where all the tanks aren’t hull down based. It’s ridiculous, players don’t use the side scraping mechanic anymore because flat terrain areas are not optimal for this new hull down meta making certain tanks not viable to play since they have such a difficult time on hilly ridges. Almost every game there is a no - 1 player split between which side to play on. The area with spiked hills or ridges is always optimised it’s getting ridiculous.
Great vid QB, thanks for all the info on the Ho-Ni 3 and Ji-Ro.
Thank you QB, now able to quickly work out how much free XP to expend on tier 5 to 7 then on gun upgrades as I should have the national fragments from tier 8 to 10. Much appreciated.
So the tier 9 Ho-RI 1 has the same 14cm gun as the type 5? Because the values look like they're the same gun.
I've been testing Ho-Ri 3, and to me it's in the best key scennario a heavy glass cannon...
I like the look of these, I'll probably play the 6, 7, 9 and 10.
The 6 looks bad stats wise, but I love the look of the tank. I do think the tier 7 and 9 will be my favourites to break out and play
Was looking for this after looking through the line in tanksgg 7 and 9 look like top performers tier for tier.
The tier 6 looks like an old Army Hut atop an old Caterpillar bulldozer with a gun sticking out of it. It looks pretty decent built up properly, the 10.5cm looks perfectly workable all things considered, a slightly less alpha Bassotto's gun but with better normalization as it's firing AP instead of APCR, looks pretty decent so far, and who doesn't want to drive a greenhouse or army hut on tracks? I don't really care if it's bad or not. It's an old school glass cannon, and glass has sucked for years on end. That and it's just such an odd looking machine.
The Ji-Ro is SPG variant based on the Type 95 Ro-Go which is a inter-war design, fun fact i guess.
There is also a open top variant this one is in the war thunder.
@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf it's still pretty cool though, pretty cool that it's an Interwar heavy tank chassis, don't see alot of Interwar stuff outside France around tier 6, this thing looks good enough, fairly hard hitting gun with decent pen and pretty good accuracy and a great aimtime.
All around, these look perfectly balanced and I can't wait to get them (though it's sad that t4 and t5 don't contribute to the Battle Pass 😢)
The new heat eater line ❤❤😂😂
As a blitz player that have the Tier X Ho Ri , it feels good
Would like to play these. Assuming the game hasn't been wrecked by the other pending updates!
Starting to like you channel you speak your mind & your all for the free to play players! I just seen your recent video about up coming update
Loved todays stream :D We need more streams like that!
I am actually so excited for these
Nice KV 2 snack 😋😊
"IF" your opponents fire gold at you at tier 10 🤣"IF", you mean "WHEN" they fire gold, you will be a big meat target. Never has a 2 letter word been so funny. Rock on QB 🤘😎
i wish shell velocity was a little higher. i'll probably give the line a look; but i'm not excited about it.
In blitz the t10 was feared cuz it could basically pen everything right down to a hull down hill camping kran.
@@Kyle-gu3ge and u only lose 15 dmg on ur premium rounds for the ability to pen an angled is 4, at any angle.
In WOT blitz the hori gets 50kmh top speed, 20 power/weight, and 330/399 ap pen
These Tanks are HUGE
Chito SP looks kinda interesting to me, that is probably where I'm gonna stop with this tree. Tier 8 doesn't look great, and I'm not really interested in playing at tier 9 or 10. But I still need a bunch of credits to start couple other lines, that appeal to me more, so these TDs are probably gonna wait.
Nice, with the current heavie fast meta, this doens t seems a good deal , at least not in this form . Thanks forthe review.
Quite weird how the tier 10 for PC is the tier 9 in Blitz. From what I know, if the PC's tier 10 is the same as the tier 9 in blitz it's that the upper plate is an auto ricochet
Edit: So it is an autoricochet, but it's much weaker than I thought. The one in blitz has over 500+mm effective armor on the upper plate on flat ground which is literally impossible to penetrate. However the superstructure is 250mm effective.
looking like the tier 9 will be the cherry of the tree
Just like the Grille 15 line.
It’s funny that in Blitz Chi-To SP literally equipped 8.8cm Pak 56 from the Tiger I. Then upgraded gun is 105mm.
Tier VIII Ho-Ri II in Blitz they Called it Ho-Ri I and it does have good gun 120mm and surprisingly same stats as PC apart from Gun Dispersion which in Blitz this gun works like a shotgun. Oh and PC armor up to 220mm while in Blitz only has 190mm thick and this will lead it to Tier IX too. Not very solid armor if you asked me.
Tier IX Ho-Ri I, in Blitz is actually Tier X with standard AP pen of 310mm I guess stock AP is too much for Tier X in PC I guess, but again the damage is 560 instead of classic 640 eventho the gun is 14.9cm which is weird, considering that Japanese have 155mm Naval Gun from Mogami Class Heavy Cruiser.
Tier X Ho-Ri III AKA in Blitz is Tier IX with 127mm stock gun and 14.9cm Upgraded gun, it has slight nerfed stats but most part is very what Ho-Ri III is in PC. However, this gun in Blitz is garbage and inaccurate but again, Tier X Ho-Ri armor is also bad. Only have 250mm Flat armor.
From my testing for a game or two with this thing. The gun is very accurate compares to Blitz Counter Part which is surprising. and it felt quite good to use them. Load Gold against some heavies literally just butter them through. Maus have difficult time against this thing due to the fact that this gun can butter Maus’ Hull Upper Plate.
Oh and Tier X in Blitz Ho-Ri max Speed is 50km/h. Yeah, it’s super fast.
Interesting. This TD line has been in Blitz for a while, but it looks like they switched the tier 9 and 10 for WOT
I think they did their research on the tier 10 in blitz considering how op the armor and premium rounds are
this is gonna be fun man
Honestly the tier 8 looks like a Lorraine 155
Ho-ri-ble...
surprised QB did a youtube video on the new td line and not do it on stream would kinda rather had it on stream so QB could of took players feed back on the tanks as he was looking at them
Nice how they tend to test things on WoT Blitz
Funny that the tier 8 is called the Ho Ri 1 instead of 2 in blitz
I could not be more excited for this tech tree. I'm going to work on getting myself a Bobject and get paired against these tanks and have a slight advantage every game
until you realize that they literally cheese through your armor and have a better gun in every way possible
downloading test server rn, hope it works. the regular game isnt working, i cant download it, but the test server is at 94 % soo i hope
type 95 is its own garage slot
I've been playing the tier 6 Ji-Ro for a few weeks now, and on my opinion, that thing is not that bad at all as a sniper that has some decent armor (if matched up on a -1 or -2 match) and the gun actually hits hard. Given the fact that there are some tier 5 (or if you're lucky, tier 4) that have the same or twice the alpha damage that the top gun of the Ji-Ro have as HP, yeah, it really does hit hard. It has a better rate of fire than the SU-100 with the top gun, standard pen is okay, the gold rounds is good and the H.E is decent for taking out lightly armored tanks. It's better to play the tank as an assassin/opportunist, where you let the enemies push a flank, then hit them when they least expect. I've ammo racked a lot of HT No. 6 and Tiger 131 with the tank. It also loves hitting snipers at the back of the map and the accuracy is pretty decent.
However, you can achieve those results if you already have a 100% crew because, playing stock, is really hard. But once you got the top gun, things are a whole lot different. Just don't play it as an assault td, or you will go back to the garage easily. I play it with two sets of equipment. I put vents, gun rammer and turbo for city maps, then on open maps with a lot of bushes, I drop the vents to put in a gun rammer, a turbo and binoculars.
For the ho 3, 300 mm of flat armor will not be a problem to gold spammers... and its basically everyone in tier 10
I don't really mind, I love TD's I'll still keep all of them!
360mm of AP pen is nice is very good to play with .28 of dispersion. It is far better than Grille.
You sound a lot better Will!
I just waiting for the TD:s, great, not OP, that is how Wargaming should do with a lot of tanks. Keep it up QB.
I thought the Ji-Ro looked like a rounded Ferdinand :V
Japanese destroyed Blitz MM. They were ultra OP
I can't help but say things to myself like Ho-Ri Crap every time I heard the band Ho-Ri.
12:48 slap a turbo to spot for yourself?:):)
Idk why they are switching tier 9 and 10 tanks they adapted from wot blitz. Happened with yoh line and now this.
thnx
I miss having various top gun options in newer tech trees, and czech heavies don't count because it's the same gun, only 2 clip instead of cyclical, and the choice is obvious
I think that the entire line, minus maybe the tier 6, will be fun for me. I like playing support/sniper TDs, and this line can easily fit that bill and then some. Definitely going to save up blueprint fragments for this line. Lately, I've been focusing on tiers 7 and 9, so this would be perfect to grind through.
I like that we're getting a balanced tech tree. I don't like that these tanks are not the slightest bit unique.
heat goes nom nom nom
Can you please play with the Swedish tier VIII tank destroyer strv S1?
So basically even more tanks that are hull down monsters. Good job Wargamming.
@Tran Bao Nam what about the tier 10, if its using all of the 7 degrees of depression at least 300mm of penetration is needed or to simply say GOLD ROUNDS and for someone who is free to play (like me) I cant sling only gold rounds. But almost all of the tanks require gold rounds to be penetrated.
QB, I see that you're repeatedly suggesting that we research gun first and then engine and then tracks cause the gun doesn't need the tracks.... but have you checked with equipment? Very often if a tank can mount an upgraded gun on stock tracks, it has so little load left that it can't e.g. mount both vents and rammer on top of it. Did you verify that?
I keep listening about the enemy in tiers IX, X and even VIII will need premium ammo to go in the tank....I have never played since last month a game without somenone not use a premium ammo!
Yeah, I would say I get hit MORE often with premium ammo these days than regular ammo.
I wonder who was the genius behind giving the tier 5 only 420 HP
These tanks all look like Russian heat snacks. Good luck bouncing heat in any of these
world of tanks in 2095 they will add mechs by that time on the japanese tech tree :D
50mm side armor? So all my guns over 150mm I load HE and overmatch their sides.
The tier 9 on world of tanks blitz looks like the tier 10 on pc and the tier 9 on pc looks like the tier 10 on the mobile version it's really weird
I feel like they'll nerf its upper hull armor. 300 armor is really for the small E3. Anything bigger then that with 300mm of armor will get nerfed from the complaints😂
I guess you can say that the Ho-ri 2 is… ho-rible?.?.?. I’ll walk myself out.
Hey quicky I don't play wot pc I play wot blitz on mobile pc has a lot of tanks that we don't have yet but in terms of the jappenese tank destroyers in blitz they have ridiculously troll armor a d very good guns where ur tech tree stops at the type 3 ho ri ours stops at the ho ri looks like re turreted chi ri at almost 310 base pen and 321 with a branch of consumables I usually don't say anything but I love ur content even tho I don't play wot pc anymore 😂
The aesthetics of these new JP TDs are so unappealing besides their lackluster performance. At least they are not broken which is a good thing.
The TR6 looks like a quonset hut on tracks 😂
every cheftain mf gangsta till ho ri from blitz enters the game
This is good news for me, because I love wierd looking tanks
prediction:
the tier 8 will be worse than the premium tier8
Remember when Wargaming introduced actual historical tanks? You know, real vehicles that saw action or prototype models that never entered mass production?
it is hard to know how the ho-ri 3 play on the test server when everyone who is playing it is firing gold at you
Japanese designer on coke: *oh wait we need an exhaust let me cut some holes to the top armor*
QB: *Are those a fancy exhaust or something?" 🤭❤
Quite unique and feels balance, like if the hori on wot is like on wotb, its gonna be insane, troll armor, insane pen, blazzing speed and good dpm, guess in wot I should play the hori as a sniper or a support and not super agressive bastard hehehehehehehe
Please video with gameplay on test server
Compared to blitz:
Blitz line starts at tier 7 from chi-to, here it starts from tier 5 with the new tanks to fill in the gap- seems like all bad lol
Chi-To SPG: LMAO THEY MADE THE STOCK GUN WORSE from 8,8cm down to 7,5cm gj WG exp tactics
intrestingly, top gun seems to be nerfed from 10,5cm down to 10cm annnd it's depression also got nerfed, yikes
instead it seems to got a armor upgrade, from decent AP passage to thicc
Hori-1: name changed to match irl stuff i think. the gun is direct copycat aside from slight pen buff to match PC stats i assume. Top speed got a -15km/h hit, yikes
almost everything stayed the same aside from the top of the tank with the overmatching plate cuz i dont think that was pennable with 100mm borrat.
Hori-3: Switched places on T9-T10 like the Yohs did, name changed again. Mobility is about same as the OG tier go which is hori-3. Gold pen nerf starts, down from 340 to 315. Dont PC have more broken heavy armor than us? Superstructure got buffed by 50mm, must've been buffed to match PC statistics.
Hori-2: like said above, got swapped. since it has sloped armor that bounces almost anything, must've been an easy decision. the UPPER GLASIS WAS NERFED BY 90mm yikes, that means it can be penned easily unless you really work it. in blitz the og t10 had what is essentially a railgun instead of 250 frontally entirely. the one on PC seems less powerful but more versatile. in Blitz the prem had 380 base pen, and 399 with upgrades making almost every tank like butter, seems like they nerfed it by 15mm so not that great compared to Jageroo's 420mm HEAT.
overall: got thiccer, got slower, lost the gun a bit. sad, cuz in blitz it's basically the gun carrier, think of the good ol ISU-152 back in the day with BL-10, but on a tier 10 with same scaling every tier 8 heavy felt in front of the thing. now it seems... average.
300 mm flat plate at t9 a good armor? and as for t10, dude, look at the upper sloped plate!!!! good amount of armor to go around...... hehehehe:) 190-230 effective....
Funny how they put that tree in wot blitz first
i have a lot of exp i saved for this tank line now i like why i do it lol
What happened to the Czech tank destroyer that was supposedly coming?
They scrapped it, as they always scrap any czech things, we also had a spg line coming...
Gameplay baby we need a gameplay 😁😁😁🤘
Does anyone know when/if these are coming to console?
But the tiger 5 is a tank that existed that why war gaming dident put the turet
It becomes fairly obvious that the Japanese during that time period weren't amazing tank designers
Thanks QB!
Thank you sir!
0.34 dispersion on a 149mm gun?
please and thank you
Yea about skipping some of those... I dont have enough free xp to skip tanks... And the fact I am broke currently so cant even buy gold to do it... So the grind begins...
Is the test surver already online?
Yes
Ty for letting me know
Don't think I'll bother with the game after the crew changes come in so these td's will be no point researching
Step aside wz113gft, new, even less armored, tier 10 assault breakthrough td coming to dethrone you from the last place
They skipped the Type 5 Na-To and Type 5 Ka-To -_-
Also Type 60 SPRG with twin gun barrel could be interesting addition.
@Tran Bao Nam
No shit, and they should.
@Tran Bao Nam
??? So it is ok for other tech tree to get fake shits, i dont see anyone complain about balancing the game when soviet get new tanks ? And because those are also tank destroyers and either actually built or planned so why should they be skipped if they are already adding Japanese TDs anyway ?
Beside the balancing team are not responsible for making new contents, this is irrelevant!
@Tran Bao Nam
So what ?
I still don't know why you are whining on my comment, maybe go take your complain to the devs and make a different ?
You are not making any progress complaining about the game with me, i'm not a fcking devs i can't fix your problems, bro.
I will keep asking for the content that i want whether you like it or not.
Also if you don't like the game go play something else, it's simple.
@Tran Bao Nam Also which of these Japanese TDs are unbalanced ? So far they look better balanced than anything they added, i don't know what you are moaning about it for.
@Tran Bao Nam
''Anyway, what's the point of adding new tanks when they can't balance their stupid game? ''
Do you read English ? What part of:
''the balancing team are not responsible for making new contents, this is irrelevant!''
You do not understand ?