I did a poor job of explaining the Mastermind here, so I thought I'd own up to it like a big boy and explain myself. I said "if they execute no-one, the evil team wins". This is, in fact, not the case. Evil team has to push for the execution of a good player. If no-one is executed, the good team wins. Essentially, the baddies have been given one extra day to push for the execution of a good player. A 'hail Mary' pass, if you like.
@1D1-Myke "If the Demon dies by execution (ending the game), play for 1 more day. If a player is then executed, their team loses." This would suggest that if no-one is executed, the '1 more day' ends and, since the Demon is dead and the special Mastermind win/loss condition hasn't been met, evil loses.
Everyone: "Come on, Carley, what lies do you have for us today?" Carley, as the Goon: "I'm the Moonchild and I swear I'm not lying this time." Everyone: "Yeah, her story checks out."
She always sounds like she's lying, even when she's telling the truth. She never backs her claims up with anything solid, even when she could. Y'know what it is? She gets emotional about it. She gets whiny and flustered and sounds like a manipulative bitch and people react to that because "calm down the flustered young woman" is a thing that gets wired into our brains.
I know the meta is Adam's always gunning for Carly because he doesn't trust her. But she's showing a strong trend for wanting to turn evil when given a good character. I say they need to start executing her on day one just on general principle.
Given how keen Carley was on snake charming in s&v, I was expecting her to push for her own execution to lock in evil and signal to the advocate that they'd hit a goon .
@@travisbic Yeah I know they don't kill her because this is content and it sucks to be the person that dies every time because of meta but optimally someone who actively hunts out being evil and is much better at the game than everyone else should basically always be murdered outside of a very good reason not to lol
I love how the various bits evolved and reacted to the game going so long - Adam running out of glasses, Brook running out of clips for the sock puppet storyline and the evolution of Jon's verses. Hilarious
I don't know, I think he performed VERY well given the circumstances, and learning to keep your cool under pressure will mean his evil game will get BETTER in future plays.
Tell me about it. The one kill he got was reversed as well, so really he didn’t kill anyone, the 4 deaths that stuck were both from Gossips and executions, with the good team being 2 for 2 on executing baddies. That was the most one sided game of BoTC I have ever seen, through no fault of Dom, just that getting drunk by the Courtier, exorcised by the Exorcist, drunk by the Minstrel, then exorcised again, he never caught a break.
@@Moleoflands in fairness no one on the evil team had the ability to disrupt information at least not with in game mechanics. Both his minions were most useful in a late game setting they never got to. They also got quite unlucky, Blair narrowed it down to 5 with her first gossip and had Narrowed it down to 2 with her second, Brooke also blocked him with an educated guess, they hadn’t confirmed it was a po so that was just another bad bit of fortune for the evil team and by that point there was no pulling themselves out of it even if he had the ability to kill
bless him it's so frustrating when he's so incredibly certain and so incredibly wrong. but i can't really blame him, and besides it makes it all the more exciting when he's incredibly correct
@@anonymous10099 not half as frustrating as Isaac lol. He spends so much time trying to metagame that he actively damages whichever team he’s on. At least Adam is charismatic 😂
If only Isaac and Dom had talked and he knew Isaac was the mastermind, he would've realized he could've gone along with Blair's nomination on him day 1, leading to a very probable day 2 win when Blair's positive gossip information results in a kill emulating the demon and she assumes her gossip was incorrect. Then they just have to get them to execute any townsfolk at all and nobody except the biggest galaxy brains would think the mastermind was already in play on day 2 and they just so happened to execute the demon day 1.
Its that, the exorcist Luke have chosen a "demon" Laurie or the fool Elliott might think they have stopped a kill and a gossip kill. So I think the demon is still alive and killing. Still it would be nice if the DA Angela go for that kill too since she knows there is a mastermind in play. And like what Ben said, Angela could have went ahead and confirm the "role" of sailer when she protected Dom.
Either the brilliant rap by Tom, or the equally brilliant song by Jon would have made this episode special. I feel spoiled getting both. You guys are just too talented...
Carley's main goal this whole game was to preserve her friendship with Adam, and it was adorable! Lol I want to see them both be teamed up on the evil team so bad! Also, holy crap is she good at this game! MVP
Disagree entirely. The pukka/advocate waffling was painful because she kept forgetting the impact of poisoning. She's too deep in the social manipulation layer to process the facts in evidence.
Dom really sealed his fate when people asked repeatedly for characters that make drunk, and he didn‘t name himself, when this was the perfect chance to say „you reading me as the demon was wrong, i made you drunk“
He also panicked about being killed the first day, but said he'd drunk with someone else. If he'd checked on day 1 that Angela would protect him on night 2, he could have told Blair on day 2 that he hadn't wanted to risk accidentally making a first night information role drunk, and drunk with himself that first night. Suddenly he has an excellent excuse for not wanting to be executed on day 1, and can "prove" he's the sailor on day 2 by surviving execution.
As an experienced social deduction bad guy, one thing we get wrong as bad guys is we STOP TALKING. It becomes clear eventually that those figuring out the puzzle are good. One bad guy needs to be vocal and that spread misinformation. It does get too easy to end up passive
Some of my best games on Among Us were where I self-reported and then directed the ensuing conversation in a calm manner. In nearly all cases, remaining calm but being the discussion director is a surefire way to establish yourself as trustworthy. I still fondly remember the exclamations of utter betrayal when the sheep I had been misleading the whole time realized I had been a wolf the whole time.
Oh my god, I saw "puppet Sullivan" in the description and thought "they can't possibly be putting in the Marionette already?" but this was more amazing than anything I could have expected! Leave it to Sullivan to be a highlight of the video even when absent! (Together with long-suffering puppeteer Brooke, of course!) And just when I'm thinking that nothing in this video could top puppet Sullivan, Jon starts singing, Tom starts rapping, and it's all incredibly delightful!
Watched all video long, including the fluff, so here's The Ballad of the Minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff 21:47 59:17 1:31:54 2:00:21 2:14:37 2:38:08 2:46:47
I too was thinking that Angela beefed it hard but it was nice of Tom and Ben to point out that she grew into the game - BOTC just seems like insane mental gymnastics and I would definitely struggle. But what a watch! Have no idea how this could function without zoom though
It is amazing how poorly Adam has performed during these. Even when he's playing right and winning, he's managing to make things more difficult with jumps in logic that while completely fair and sane, end up going in circles or being wrong. Love you Adam, you're the paprika on our mashed potatoes in these videos.
I think it’s understandable. Cuz I think certain things you overthink. Rarely does it work for him cuz I think the only time it did, it was the Lunatic round and didn’t take the bait right away. Otherwise, he overthinks or he metas a bit too much.
It's the same strong imagination that makes him so good in his wrestling/booking vids: but he gets lost in all of the "what ifs" and winds up losing the thread
Such a weird game. Evil were just too quiet, didn’t throw out any misinformation. Dom as the bluffed Sailor is a great way of getting the good team to mistrust their information. Isaac as the bluffed Pacifist has a great excuse for Angela’s failed execution. Angela as the bluffed grandmother could have justified Isaac as a good player. Evil had bad luck too, but it was the quietness that just made easy leads for good to call out the evil players. Everybody else in the circle called out what they were and why you should believe them.
Evil lost for many reasons in this one, but their biggest mistake was not coming up with a better plan for bluffing Grandmother. If evil is going to bluff Grandmother, they have to use it to back up another evil player's bluff. Angela has to be Dom the Sailor's grandmother or Isaac the Pacifist's grandmother. The game really unraveled once Angela was caught in the obvious lie of "I'm the grandmother who didn't bother to talk to their grandchild for 2 entire days."
@@Stuffthatsfunny1 Yeah Adam's reads are very bad although I'd say he himself is quite difficult to read. He's pretty good at playing in a consistent way no matter his team.
Having played a good amount of Blood on the Clocktower -- this is a common occurrence. You're never 100% sure of what's going on, so games often devolve into debates about what "possible worlds" there could be and how do we hedge one against the other. It's probably the worst thing about the game because if one person tunnels on something that isn't true, they can seriously delay the game by trying to ensure a 100% chance of victory instead of taking the 95% shot.
adam: i don't know why the devil's advocate would choose to protect a good player the devil's advocate who picked a good player night one: yeah, me neither, that's a really weird play
I honestly can’t thank you all enough for this beautiful entertainment and very hard work for putting this all together. The editing is perfection with how we can listen and see the players during all conversations. The chemistry of NRB is perfect and very hilarious. This will forever be my favorite group to watch play Blood on the Clocktower. You truly have something special with this. Chef’s kiss.
@@WebMonkey741 BotC can and has been filmed in person! I have a feeling Tom has been the constant co-story teller so that in person he will be a competent enough story teller to lead their games. The only tricky part is holding the grimoire and masking your movement to players. I do hope they carry it on in person, but this game does present better online for sure
Dom is such a natural in BOTC, kept his cool, played very well (sadly that courtier being believed by everyone and never going to be executed AND landing the correct demon was such a huge blow, and Im sad for dom :( Keep in mind i believe this is only the THIRD game dom has played in BOTC, to be a demon in BMR and do that well!! like even his first kill was awesome (and I believe the gossip killing carley was harsh for evil :3)
These first few games will go quickly and have a lot of open information, but once evil get better town will find that being open will cause problems. I look forward to seeing their playstyles develop over time.
@@dradkyn9118 I agree, it's a bit too calculated for me when she just proclaims so and so solutions before anyone else really has had a chance to think for themselves.
I was so hesitant to watch this series to the long video lengths, but I am soooo glad I did. You all are such a fun cast, and love seeing you all work out who is who (or deceive your mates!)
It's safe to say that this was an amazing episode. Blair and Luke doing great in their roles. John's amazing performance. Tom being the boss he is. Brooke doing the sock puppet Sullie shtick. Bad Moon Rising with so little kills lasting 6 nights! Crazy stuff. Thanks everyone for the quality entertainment 😍
SPOILER! I'm 2 hours in. Before I continue watching, I just have to say I'm intrigued to see how this game could possibly go on for nearly an hour more, because the entire good team has it all like 99% figured out. They've deduced that the demon is Dom, that he's a Po, that Angela is the Devil's Advocate, and they're suspicious of Isaac... So what craziness could happen next that stretches this game out for another hour??? Let's see!
Adam. It's always Adam. And for the first time, Laurie made a bad prediction. Laurie is like the demon whisperer and highly accurately calls out the evil team's plays. This time he and Adam (mostly Adam) guaranteed it got extended
@@GnarlyCarleyGaming I've only started watching this series with the last episode, but it's insane how good you are at the deduction side of this game. The bluffing and social manipulation from last ep was good, but the laser focus in this ep was just super impressive. Well played!
She’s really smart but as far as I can tell she cheated here and I’m surprised no one said anything about it. I love these things but that really imbalanced the game when she conspired while evil to switch to the good team. I feel I’ve seen Ben warn people in other games that that’s not allowed. It forced the storytellers to really start doing crazy shit to keep it going. Killed a lot of suspense and back and forth momentum. I guess they wanna turn her face but they did seem to just prioritize narrative over the rules of the game. I guess u can be a lousy evil player when an outsider but not just a straight up treacherous one.
Are we just gonna ignore that right out of the gate sock puppet Sully guessed both Isaac and Carley were evil? Even when he's not there he's the best player at this game.
Adam and Carly...the two ends of the spectrum where both of them are the ones who know the most about this game, one continues to be scary good, and one continues to be scary...just scary to use all that knowledge to good use 😄
I just discovered the BOTC videos and I am addicted, this was one of my favourites. Loved Sock Sullivan, Tom and Jon's verses, Carly and Adam's friendship
Sock Puppet Sullivan is the greatest addition to this channel now we need him and Adam Blamplate to feud over the Inanimate Object Championship that I'm sure will exist by this time next week.
It's impossible for me to ever get sick of BotCT, especially when there are *thirteen* lost souls desperately trying to uncover this mystery... Well, technically 14 😛
Carley keeping 1000000000000000000000000000000000 things in her head at once and sussing stuff out is INSANE Also, while Understaker is a pretty good shout, I'm afraid that the correct pun for Adam's zombie gambler is the Shambler. Thank you.
This is the most invested I have been in a BotCT game. I was shouting at Adam for his many attempts to derail this game for the good team. Very compelling stuff for a three hour video!
Carley is insanely good at this game. How quickly she computes and comes to a logical conclusion is fantastic fun to watch. Adam is also terrifically good at figuring things out but his overconfidence is his downfall :) Brillant fun watching these, please keep going with more and more BOTC!
Can Blair and Jon please STOP immediately outing themselves to evil players at the beginning of these games?!? 🤣🤣🤣 Also, Adam needs to stop expecting that every role is going to be played 100% perfectly. Not everyone in this group has massive amounts of BOTC games under their belt... P.S. Getting a NRB plays BOTC video the day after CM Punk's return has made this the best weekend I've had all year long.
I can't believe Sock Puppet Sullivan is trying to break up the modern day eyes met in a crowded room over a board of snakes and ladders romance that is Brook and Sully.
i was SCREAMING at Dom to publicly announce that he was the sailor and picked Adam, which might have made him drunk and therefore his gamble didn't do anything
The full lyrics to "The Minstrel's Song" or "The Minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff" I've been running 'round town, all handsome and tough, The Debonair Minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff All of you demons, Don't give me no guff or you'll have to deal with the minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff So pass me that pipe on which I shall puff That hella cool minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff They say I'm too much I say I'm not enough That confident minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff They say I'm a furry but I just like fluff the cuddly minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff I practice my lyrics til I'm mentally buff the powerful minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff I'm writing down lyrics but they're all off the cuff the improvised minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff My sexual preference is I like it rough The oversharing minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff My partner's with child yes she's up the duff the unprophylactic minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff I can't afford childcare I don't earn enough Impecunious minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff This game never ends these people are idiots the incredulous minstrel of Ravenswood Blidiots I'm the minstrel, I'm the minstrel Demon Dom is in bits I'm the minstrel, I'm the minstrel You can all kiss my grits. What more can I say? We kicked Dom's behind. Now we only need heed that damn Mastermind So if we stay our hands and the village stays tough I'll still be the minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff!
I'm on yet another binge-watch of going through ALL of the 'NRB plays Blood on the Clocktower' vids, and I gotta say... LAURIE IS ALWAYS RIGHT! He manages to workout the layout of the game *every time* (it's whether or not he's persuaded to stick with it) - Laurie must be protected at all costs. He's the one to side with. Just, believe him guys 😂🙌 Xx
47:20 Never noticed this before on the previous watch but watching Isaac quietly panicking after his casual bluff vote on Dom is absolutely **hilarious** ! He tries to take a cool sip like 10 times but fails with each added vote worrying if he's just potentially killed his own Demon on Day 1 before setting his heart down once the votes close with a final - long - drink of relief. 😂😂
Can we talk about how upset I was that Angela didn't use the grandmother bluff to validate Dom as the soldier, or Issac as the Pascifist?! Ahhh the grandmother is such an amazing bluff if you know you demon/minions claims!!
I think there was no way to successfully claim Isaac as Pacifist Grandchild being that it was somewhat late into the game, after he "revealed" to Carley, where actually having a Pacifist would have been disadvantageous to the Evils because it would beg the question, why would Storytellers have a Pacifist ability proc when Goodies are obviously winning? Angela not knowing the other Townies' characters also makes sense as to why she didn't just choose one at random - either if she wanted to protect Dom/Isaac specifically or if she wanted to somehow guess someone's exact role (maybe would have been good to pick Blair as grandchild as it was obvious she was Gossip). What she should have done was pick a character that she knew was a Demon Bluff!!
this is one of my favourite episodes yet: just the beauty of how long it went on and how (adam)ant adam was about his entirely incorrect beliefs while brooke and carley were on the ball and saving the day, the meta about carley being brought up in a game where she was both good AND evil, jon's incredible and distressed minstrel song, so few deaths and so many possibilities, again probably the longest game of this i've ever seen, angela and isaac having such a comedically rough time as the minions, dom the demon playing so well in the first half and then it just falling apart... but of course, most importantly - sock puppet sullivan.
This was such an amazing video. The rap, the surprisingly long Minstrel song, the hilarious moments like 1:14:20 (I had to re-look it up because I lost my comment), the amazing puns....just everything. Love it. You guys are so entertaining.
an excellent game as always. thanks for everything, including the subtitles when audio dropped out. I almost always root for the evil team and was genuinely shocked by the way this episode ended. great job to all players. sock puppet or otherwise. I'm really hoping for a Halloween Live stream if that would even be possible. cheers all for a fantastic time, almost 3 hours!
Angela, no, throwing sus on Carley was a very good choice! Don was capable of defending himself. The problems were that Carley shouldn’t have played for the good team while she was evil, and the Storytellers shouldn’t have nerfed the game by allowing Carley to die confirmed good.
I've noticed when they switch to a new script the first game pretty much no one knows what they're doing, then the second game evil kinda gets shafted because they haven't quite figured out how to use their roles. But then the next games are belters because everyone is more familiar with the script and we get brilliance like Evil Sully and the evil twin episode.
simultaneously the smartest and dumbest town ive seen in this series. they figured it out so early they had too much time to overthink themselves into knots xd still loving the content
I've never seen a Demon get bullied that hard before. Dom had the potential to play better with certain sailor night target bluffs but honestly the Brooke/Carley/Adam trio basically ruined his chances right out of the gate. (Even if Adam did his best to ruin that for the good team twice)
Gambler is great, I had one game where I gambled someone who was having connection issues and thus didn't know what role they are. I didn't die, as I gambled they were the fool, and they were the fool.
@@crashpeil9890he was resurrected by a professor, which only works if he's a towns-person (it doesn't work on demons, minions, or outsiders). So despite his antics he was confirmed as a goodie.
It's a little crazy that this script, which as Ben mentioned could potentially kill 5 people in one night, went all the way to a day 7 and at the start of day 7, there were only 4 dead players.
Always the best notification i get is a new BOtCT is ready! But when i saw no Sully i was so disappointed! But Brooke...omg Brooke, you really made SPS work so well! And hats off to you and Sully for recording all those! How many more did you record that weren't used?! Brooke, MVP of this episode! :D
Loved watching. The group and their unique relationships and quirks are a great watch and the game, especially with the video setup, is just perfect to draw out and showcase them. Regarding the game. I think this showss as usual, you can always help good later, but evil needs help early. I think Carley was the wrong kill for the gossip. The Fool would have been best, with Luke or Brooke a good second. I can understand not wanting to kill characters with one time abilities that have not been used, and it might seem like it was fair to keep the field wide after Blairs gossip. But Luke and Brooke are good targets for the professor, so having unused abilities is not that important. But most importantly, killing Carley established a circle of trust between her and Adam and confirmed them both very quickly. A very bad thing for evil. If Carley had not died, she would have been an alive goon. Good would have needed to execute her to keep her from becoming evil again. Possibly triggering a Godfather. If they wanted to double tap her in case of Zombul, it would have taken another whole turn. That would have set back the hunt for evil for several turns. Killing Carley was a great gift to her, since now no execution needed to be wasted, with no risk of triggering a Godfather. In terms of this game, Adam would have blocked the use of the courtier a turn longer. So easily confirming the best player by far in terms of experience and skill, turned them into a game solving commander in chief. Killing Blair was also a mistake, the info was already going to be gained: Alive yes, she could continue gossiping, she would have needed to risk lives to do so though. Evil had already lost by this point, but if Luke had been chosen, there might have been three more deaths. But the real reason I think team evil lost was that they were too passive in this game. It is really important to put out false info as much as you can without seeming shady. For example, the sailor goes before the gambler. Suggesting having drunken, the gambler could have thrown a wench into things. Another example was leaving the single outsider claim uncontested. The Evil players did not even need to claim outsider themselves, just that they have heard of one. As it was, they not only allowed, Carley to claim the single outsider role, but gave away that there was likely no Godfather in play. It also took away the outsiders as bluff. With the goon revealed, they could know that the other outsiders.
I did a poor job of explaining the Mastermind here, so I thought I'd own up to it like a big boy and explain myself. I said "if they execute no-one, the evil team wins". This is, in fact, not the case. Evil team has to push for the execution of a good player. If no-one is executed, the good team wins. Essentially, the baddies have been given one extra day to push for the execution of a good player. A 'hail Mary' pass, if you like.
Dont beat yourself up, you are extremely talented and appreciated brother
*Deus ex Fiasco smiles and waves from the top of the town clock tower*
@1D1-Myke "If the Demon dies by execution (ending the game), play for 1 more day. If a player is then executed, their team loses."
This would suggest that if no-one is executed, the '1 more day' ends and, since the Demon is dead and the special Mastermind win/loss condition hasn't been met, evil loses.
Ben lad, I'm gonna tell you this straight, now that the Meta is dead I need Carley and Adam as an evil pairing, just 2v10 it
Ben, is 7 days the longest BOTC game you've ever had as a storyteller?
Everyone: "Come on, Carley, what lies do you have for us today?"
Carley, as the Goon: "I'm the Moonchild and I swear I'm not lying this time."
Everyone: "Yeah, her story checks out."
She always sounds like she's lying, even when she's telling the truth. She never backs her claims up with anything solid, even when she could. Y'know what it is? She gets emotional about it. She gets whiny and flustered and sounds like a manipulative bitch and people react to that because "calm down the flustered young woman" is a thing that gets wired into our brains.
Poor Jon never fails to find and befriend the demon right away
At some point you'd figure out that whomever Jon trusts this time is naturally sus.
@@Akranejames Jon just needs to learn to kill his darlings to win.
Unless he's the minion then he assumes he's the lunatic to 😂
Brooke deserves an award for her dedication to the bit
Sock Sully got 2 out of the 4 evils right out the gate. And thats why Sullivan has the highest wins out the group lol
I was gonna say, I feel sorry for Sully. The puppet played better than he usually does.
Does Sock Sullivan’s win count for the record? XD
@@Reagmaster i think Sockllivan did win, for the record
He's lowkey good because he's a wildcard
True but he's also almost always completely trustful of one member of the evil team
I love the fact that Dom took a drink WHILE BROOKE WAS SAYING SHE TOOK THE DEMON OUT FOR A DRINK. So freaking meta 🤣
Never question the wise mind of sock Sullivan. He completely nailed Carly and Isaac as evil on day one.
I know the meta is Adam's always gunning for Carly because he doesn't trust her. But she's showing a strong trend for wanting to turn evil when given a good character. I say they need to start executing her on day one just on general principle.
@@travisbic then they play trouble brewing again and Tom and Ben make her the saint😅
Given how keen Carley was on snake charming in s&v, I was expecting her to push for her own execution to lock in evil and signal to the advocate that they'd hit a goon .
Bro sock Sullivan is best character in all of BotCT
@@travisbic Yeah I know they don't kill her because this is content and it sucks to be the person that dies every time because of meta but optimally someone who actively hunts out being evil and is much better at the game than everyone else should basically always be murdered outside of a very good reason not to lol
I love how the various bits evolved and reacted to the game going so long - Adam running out of glasses, Brook running out of clips for the sock puppet storyline and the evolution of Jon's verses. Hilarious
I feel so bad for Dom, I’ve never seen a demon get kill blocked so much in one of these games, just constantly getting pissed and exorcised
I don't know, I think he performed VERY well given the circumstances, and learning to keep your cool under pressure will mean his evil game will get BETTER in future plays.
Tell me about it. The one kill he got was reversed as well, so really he didn’t kill anyone, the 4 deaths that stuck were both from Gossips and executions, with the good team being 2 for 2 on executing baddies. That was the most one sided game of BoTC I have ever seen, through no fault of Dom, just that getting drunk by the Courtier, exorcised by the Exorcist, drunk by the Minstrel, then exorcised again, he never caught a break.
@@JoshCreepa His mistake was not coordinating a big play to blow up the good guys flow of valid information
@@Moleoflands what could he have possibly done though? A demon that can’t kill is fucked.
@@Moleoflands in fairness no one on the evil team had the ability to disrupt information at least not with in game mechanics. Both his minions were most useful in a late game setting they never got to. They also got quite unlucky, Blair narrowed it down to 5 with her first gossip and had Narrowed it down to 2 with her second, Brooke also blocked him with an educated guess, they hadn’t confirmed it was a po so that was just another bad bit of fortune for the evil team and by that point there was no pulling themselves out of it even if he had the ability to kill
Everyone: Dom is a Po
Actual: Dom is a Po
Carley, known BOTC genius: Dom is a Po
Adam: 👁👄👁Pukka
Adam is as always the most single handedly frustrating person in the game
bless him it's so frustrating when he's so incredibly certain and so incredibly wrong. but i can't really blame him, and besides it makes it all the more exciting when he's incredibly correct
@@anonymous10099 not half as frustrating as Isaac lol. He spends so much time trying to metagame that he actively damages whichever team he’s on. At least Adam is charismatic 😂
Carley is always evil, but Adam is always on the side of evil.
Luke and Brooke MVP this game
The thought of Brooke and Sully planning, recording and sorting out the recordings of Sock Puppet Sully just makes me smile
If only Isaac and Dom had talked and he knew Isaac was the mastermind, he would've realized he could've gone along with Blair's nomination on him day 1, leading to a very probable day 2 win when Blair's positive gossip information results in a kill emulating the demon and she assumes her gossip was incorrect. Then they just have to get them to execute any townsfolk at all and nobody except the biggest galaxy brains would think the mastermind was already in play on day 2 and they just so happened to execute the demon day 1.
They likely would have done a no vote on anyone in that case.
Probably would have been a rerecord, not to meta it
Its that, the exorcist Luke have chosen a "demon" Laurie or the fool Elliott might think they have stopped a kill and a gossip kill. So I think the demon is still alive and killing. Still it would be nice if the DA Angela go for that kill too since she knows there is a mastermind in play. And like what Ben said, Angela could have went ahead and confirm the "role" of sailer when she protected Dom.
The evil ones keep losing recently cos they're not talking to each other lol
Either the brilliant rap by Tom, or the equally brilliant song by Jon would have made this episode special. I feel spoiled getting both. You guys are just too talented...
And then we have sock puppet Sullivan stealing the show
Carley's main goal this whole game was to preserve her friendship with Adam, and it was adorable! Lol I want to see them both be teamed up on the evil team so bad! Also, holy crap is she good at this game! MVP
Spoke it into existence
Disagree entirely. The pukka/advocate waffling was painful because she kept forgetting the impact of poisoning. She's too deep in the social manipulation layer to process the facts in evidence.
That turned out well, their friendship is as good as ever!
@@noahburns6042 That's irony noh?😂
@@AnsWerNas yes
Dom really sealed his fate when people asked repeatedly for characters that make drunk, and he didn‘t name himself, when this was the perfect chance to say „you reading me as the demon was wrong, i made you drunk“
He also panicked about being killed the first day, but said he'd drunk with someone else. If he'd checked on day 1 that Angela would protect him on night 2, he could have told Blair on day 2 that he hadn't wanted to risk accidentally making a first night information role drunk, and drunk with himself that first night. Suddenly he has an excellent excuse for not wanting to be executed on day 1, and can "prove" he's the sailor on day 2 by surviving execution.
Okay... That intro was just perfect
I was just thinking "aw, no Sullivan today"
He is funny even when not present
As an experienced social deduction bad guy, one thing we get wrong as bad guys is we STOP TALKING. It becomes clear eventually that those figuring out the puzzle are good. One bad guy needs to be vocal and that spread misinformation. It does get too easy to end up passive
Some of my best games on Among Us were where I self-reported and then directed the ensuing conversation in a calm manner. In nearly all cases, remaining calm but being the discussion director is a surefire way to establish yourself as trustworthy.
I still fondly remember the exclamations of utter betrayal when the sheep I had been misleading the whole time realized I had been a wolf the whole time.
We are SEVERLY underrating brookes comedy chops here
Day 6, Adam did a fantastic job of snatching defeat from the jaws of imminent victory
It was nowhere near defeat. Just a delay. And a sensible one. Jon could've lied.
Oh my god, I saw "puppet Sullivan" in the description and thought "they can't possibly be putting in the Marionette already?" but this was more amazing than anything I could have expected! Leave it to Sullivan to be a highlight of the video even when absent! (Together with long-suffering puppeteer Brooke, of course!)
And just when I'm thinking that nothing in this video could top puppet Sullivan, Jon starts singing, Tom starts rapping, and it's all incredibly delightful!
The best thing is: Sully was 100% right with his first two predictions :D
Which is fantastic!
Watched all video long, including the fluff, so here's The Ballad of the Minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff
21:47
59:17
1:31:54
2:00:21
2:14:37
2:38:08
2:46:47
I actually really like this as a song. The story does work quite well without context! And the tune is incredible. Really love the last verse.
Was really hoping he’d do all the verses together at the conclusion of the game, too bad that didn’t happen
You did a good job, compiling the stuff, the verses of Minstrel of Ravenswood bluff.
I too was thinking that Angela beefed it hard but it was nice of Tom and Ben to point out that she grew into the game - BOTC just seems like insane mental gymnastics and I would definitely struggle.
But what a watch! Have no idea how this could function without zoom though
All credit for Brooke and her commitment to the puppet bit :)
CM Punk returns and a new Blood on the Clocktower, best weekend ever!
What a great 24 hours
Yes
Best day ever
You said it, brother.
Couldn’t have said it better
It is amazing how poorly Adam has performed during these. Even when he's playing right and winning, he's managing to make things more difficult with jumps in logic that while completely fair and sane, end up going in circles or being wrong.
Love you Adam, you're the paprika on our mashed potatoes in these videos.
Yah adam does have a tendency to either overthink/seconds guess himself to the point of self destruction.
If Luke didn't Exorcise the demon, Adam would've lost them the game :D
I think it’s understandable. Cuz I think certain things you overthink. Rarely does it work for him cuz I think the only time it did, it was the Lunatic round and didn’t take the bait right away. Otherwise, he overthinks or he metas a bit too much.
It's the same strong imagination that makes him so good in his wrestling/booking vids: but he gets lost in all of the "what ifs" and winds up losing the thread
@@donathos But the one time and it comes off as right, we will all forget the bad. All his crazy schemes are plausible, so one will be right someday.
Such a weird game. Evil were just too quiet, didn’t throw out any misinformation. Dom as the bluffed Sailor is a great way of getting the good team to mistrust their information. Isaac as the bluffed Pacifist has a great excuse for Angela’s failed execution. Angela as the bluffed grandmother could have justified Isaac as a good player.
Evil had bad luck too, but it was the quietness that just made easy leads for good to call out the evil players. Everybody else in the circle called out what they were and why you should believe them.
It was a play to bus Dom and hope they kill a good the next day, not realising they got the demon already
Evil lost for many reasons in this one, but their biggest mistake was not coming up with a better plan for bluffing Grandmother. If evil is going to bluff Grandmother, they have to use it to back up another evil player's bluff. Angela has to be Dom the Sailor's grandmother or Isaac the Pacifist's grandmother. The game really unraveled once Angela was caught in the obvious lie of "I'm the grandmother who didn't bother to talk to their grandchild for 2 entire days."
@@11th-lemon At that point, yes. They had to come up with better bluffs at the beginning.
Yeah Dom had a prime chance to make them distrust their info but he probably just panicked. Its his second game anyway
Can't believe how thoroughly Adam nearly buggered this game. Great episode
@@Stuffthatsfunny1 Yeah Adam's reads are very bad although I'd say he himself is quite difficult to read. He's pretty good at playing in a consistent way no matter his team.
Having played a good amount of Blood on the Clocktower -- this is a common occurrence. You're never 100% sure of what's going on, so games often devolve into debates about what "possible worlds" there could be and how do we hedge one against the other. It's probably the worst thing about the game because if one person tunnels on something that isn't true, they can seriously delay the game by trying to ensure a 100% chance of victory instead of taking the 95% shot.
@@Phyrre56 with Adam though his social reads are so bad in this series, except for in maybe 2 episodes 😂
I feel like Brooke consistently makes the right choices (Po) and I’m so happy she wasn’t swayed to think it was a Pukka.
I felt so anxious while she was using her ability. The sigh of relief I let out when she read it correctly and said “Po”
adam: i don't know why the devil's advocate would choose to protect a good player
the devil's advocate who picked a good player night one: yeah, me neither, that's a really weird play
Sock Puppet Sully for Prime Minister. He has my vote. Especially with his catchy slogan “How had could it be?!”
I don’t think this episode was as good from a gameplay perspective…but from a humor perspective it was A+.
I honestly can’t thank you all enough for this beautiful entertainment and very hard work for putting this all together. The editing is perfection with how we can listen and see the players during all conversations. The chemistry of NRB is perfect and very hilarious. This will forever be my favorite group to watch play Blood on the Clocktower. You truly have something special with this. Chef’s kiss.
Completely agree! I'm worried if NRB goes to filming in a studio that some of the BotC will be lost. I hope not though. 🙂
@@WebMonkey741 BotC can and has been filmed in person! I have a feeling Tom has been the constant co-story teller so that in person he will be a competent enough story teller to lead their games. The only tricky part is holding the grimoire and masking your movement to players. I do hope they carry it on in person, but this game does present better online for sure
@@georgeprice8929 I hope this is the absolute truth
Tom rapping, Jon singing and sock-puppet Sully. So many great things in this episode!!
I have never loved Tom more than in that moment.
Love rewatching this
Dom is great, really like seeing him on these.
Dom is such a natural in BOTC, kept his cool, played very well (sadly that courtier being believed by everyone and never going to be executed AND landing the correct demon was such a huge blow, and Im sad for dom :(
Keep in mind i believe this is only the THIRD game dom has played in BOTC, to be a demon in BMR and do that well!!
like even his first kill was awesome (and I believe the gossip killing carley was harsh for evil :3)
These first few games will go quickly and have a lot of open information, but once evil get better town will find that being open will cause problems. I look forward to seeing their playstyles develop over time.
And Carly straight up cheated I’m pretty sure by conspiring to switch. She’s luck they dissent see her. That was cheating as far as I understand.
@@voodoodrew5458 is not cheating. Players can say pretty much anything they want. Nobody is forced to believe them.
Absolutely not cheating. So many goons go out of their way to become evil just for fun.
His tone sounds too evil to me for him to be a goodie
Carley is a true mastermind at this game. She shows such a high level of understanding of all of the characters that she’s on another level!
She is very good but sometimes she speaks over people too much and it comes off as annoying because she backseat games people a lot
@@dradkyn9118 I agree, it's a bit too calculated for me when she just proclaims so and so solutions before anyone else really has had a chance to think for themselves.
I was so hesitant to watch this series to the long video lengths, but I am soooo glad I did. You all are such a fun cast, and love seeing you all work out who is who (or deceive your mates!)
It's safe to say that this was an amazing episode. Blair and Luke doing great in their roles. John's amazing performance. Tom being the boss he is. Brooke doing the sock puppet Sullie shtick. Bad Moon Rising with so little kills lasting 6 nights! Crazy stuff. Thanks everyone for the quality entertainment 😍
Anyone else want to see them play the first one now after after getting so much better?
SPOILER! I'm 2 hours in. Before I continue watching, I just have to say I'm intrigued to see how this game could possibly go on for nearly an hour more, because the entire good team has it all like 99% figured out. They've deduced that the demon is Dom, that he's a Po, that Angela is the Devil's Advocate, and they're suspicious of Isaac... So what craziness could happen next that stretches this game out for another hour??? Let's see!
Ah, I see. It was Adam's fault. Lol Not complaining, though. It meant more BotC to enjoy! Love this group!
Adam. It's always Adam. And for the first time, Laurie made a bad prediction. Laurie is like the demon whisperer and highly accurately calls out the evil team's plays. This time he and Adam (mostly Adam) guaranteed it got extended
More people need to see this series. It's just incredible!
I wish I were as good at anything as Carley is at Blood on the Clocktower.
I don't know you, but you have a lovely smile and I'm sure you are wonderful at all sorts of stuff. Also, thanks 💖
Many of the plays she has made in previous games have been inspired.
@@GnarlyCarleyGaming I've only started watching this series with the last episode, but it's insane how good you are at the deduction side of this game. The bluffing and social manipulation from last ep was good, but the laser focus in this ep was just super impressive. Well played!
Yaaay Carley and her big beautiful brain!
She’s really smart but as far as I can tell she cheated here and I’m surprised no one said anything about it. I love these things but that really imbalanced the game when she conspired while evil to switch to the good team. I feel I’ve seen Ben warn people in other games that that’s not allowed. It forced the storytellers to really start doing crazy shit to keep it going. Killed a lot of suspense and back and forth momentum. I guess they wanna turn her face but they did seem to just prioritize narrative over the rules of the game. I guess u can be a lousy evil player when an outsider but not just a straight up treacherous one.
Watching through all these again and I’ve grown to really love that they gave the editor an excuse to just slap the word “EVIL” onto Carley’s window.
Watching this back, I love that Brooke is having absolutely none of Angela's shit about Luke being her grandchild 😂
Are we just gonna ignore that right out of the gate sock puppet Sully guessed both Isaac and Carley were evil? Even when he's not there he's the best player at this game.
BEST EPISODE EVER. Rapping tom, singing jon, and sock sully will be forever remembered.
Dom's cheeky little last minute vote for Laurie was hilarious! Lol
The most impactful decision of that entire game was Carly being DA'd on N1
It was a roll of the dice that didn't pay off due to the Goon character, but It was a great play as it worked off the developing meta.
Adam and Carly...the two ends of the spectrum where both of them are the ones who know the most about this game, one continues to be scary good, and one continues to be scary...just scary to use all that knowledge to good use 😄
I love how the gossip's first impulse is to trust two evil players. A beautiful satirical take on gossiping.
I just discovered the BOTC videos and I am addicted, this was one of my favourites. Loved Sock Sullivan, Tom and Jon's verses, Carly and Adam's friendship
Sock Puppet Sullivan is the greatest addition to this channel now we need him and Adam Blamplate to feud over the Inanimate Object Championship that I'm sure will exist by this time next week.
I just want it to be a running gag where Carley has an increasing number of microphones in her shot.
Send me the mics and let's get this party started
It took me an hour and a half to realize that Sock-llivan had his little cup of tea 😂😂 Brilliant !
I've never seen a game of Bad Moon Rising with so little death 😂
Well a well-mixed cocktail of correct courtier and exorcist decisions has created the demon-roofie colada.
Zombuul game, anyone?
It's impossible for me to ever get sick of BotCT, especially when there are *thirteen* lost souls desperately trying to uncover this mystery...
Well, technically 14 😛
Thirteen souls... And one sole
...why are you counting the storytellers?
...also the three evil shouldn't count.
@@totz_the_plaid9625 Because.
Carley keeping 1000000000000000000000000000000000 things in her head at once and sussing stuff out is INSANE
Also, while Understaker is a pretty good shout, I'm afraid that the correct pun for Adam's zombie gambler is the Shambler. Thank you.
a puppet, a song, a rap, and various exorcist references, this episode has everything
This is the most invested I have been in a BotCT game. I was shouting at Adam for his many attempts to derail this game for the good team. Very compelling stuff for a three hour video!
I am amazed at how simultaneously one sided and incredibly long this game was.
The sheer genius that goes on in silent Tom's mind 👏 I'd love to see him contribute more on NRB
Carley is insanely good at this game. How quickly she computes and comes to a logical conclusion is fantastic fun to watch. Adam is also terrifically good at figuring things out but his overconfidence is his downfall :) Brillant fun watching these, please keep going with more and more BOTC!
Adam is great but omg his thought process & hypothesis in this game was so hard to watch. 😅😅 So glad it didn't lose them the game in the end.
Can Blair and Jon please STOP immediately outing themselves to evil players at the beginning of these games?!? 🤣🤣🤣
Also, Adam needs to stop expecting that every role is going to be played 100% perfectly. Not everyone in this group has massive amounts of BOTC games under their belt...
P.S. Getting a NRB plays BOTC video the day after CM Punk's return has made this the best weekend I've had all year long.
Adam messing up so hard because she keeps overestimating his opponents is such a funny thing
I genuinely love this, this is my favorite video series on UA-cam, and it just keeps getting better. Thank you, everyone.
Adam should have said that he’s the “Shambler”. It was right there 😁
Tom just keeps getting better and better! Also I would love more games of BoCT with NRB and the UK group (especially Nicky, think of the duets!)
I can't believe Sock Puppet Sullivan is trying to break up the modern day eyes met in a crowded room over a board of snakes and ladders romance that is Brook and Sully.
brooke kissing sock puppet sullivan was weirdly so sweet
Just do the opposite of what Adam vehemently believes and you win 🙂
i was SCREAMING at Dom to publicly announce that he was the sailor and picked Adam, which might have made him drunk and therefore his gamble didn't do anything
The full lyrics to "The Minstrel's Song" or "The Minstrel of Ravenswood Bluff"
I've been running 'round town,
all handsome and tough,
The Debonair Minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
All of you demons,
Don't give me no guff
or you'll have to deal with the minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
So pass me that pipe
on which I shall puff
That hella cool minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
They say I'm too much
I say I'm not enough
That confident minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
They say I'm a furry
but I just like fluff
the cuddly minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
I practice my lyrics
til I'm mentally buff
the powerful minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
I'm writing down lyrics
but they're all off the cuff
the improvised minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
My sexual preference
is I like it rough
The oversharing minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
My partner's with child
yes she's up the duff
the unprophylactic minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
I can't afford childcare
I don't earn enough
Impecunious minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff
This game never ends
these people are idiots
the incredulous minstrel
of Ravenswood Blidiots
I'm the minstrel, I'm the minstrel
Demon Dom is in bits
I'm the minstrel, I'm the minstrel
You can all kiss my grits.
What more can I say?
We kicked Dom's behind.
Now we only need heed
that damn Mastermind
So if we stay our hands
and the village stays tough
I'll still be the minstrel
of Ravenswood Bluff!
I'm on yet another binge-watch of going through ALL of the 'NRB plays Blood on the Clocktower' vids, and I gotta say... LAURIE IS ALWAYS RIGHT! He manages to workout the layout of the game *every time* (it's whether or not he's persuaded to stick with it) - Laurie must be protected at all costs. He's the one to side with. Just, believe him guys 😂🙌 Xx
47:20 Never noticed this before on the previous watch but watching Isaac quietly panicking after his casual bluff vote on Dom is absolutely **hilarious** ! He tries to take a cool sip like 10 times but fails with each added vote worrying if he's just potentially killed his own Demon on Day 1 before setting his heart down once the votes close with a final - long - drink of relief. 😂😂
Can we talk about how upset I was that Angela didn't use the grandmother bluff to validate Dom as the soldier, or Issac as the Pascifist?! Ahhh the grandmother is such an amazing bluff if you know you demon/minions claims!!
I think there was no way to successfully claim Isaac as Pacifist Grandchild being that it was somewhat late into the game, after he "revealed" to Carley, where actually having a Pacifist would have been disadvantageous to the Evils because it would beg the question, why would Storytellers have a Pacifist ability proc when Goodies are obviously winning?
Angela not knowing the other Townies' characters also makes sense as to why she didn't just choose one at random - either if she wanted to protect Dom/Isaac specifically or if she wanted to somehow guess someone's exact role (maybe would have been good to pick Blair as grandchild as it was obvious she was Gossip). What she should have done was pick a character that she knew was a Demon Bluff!!
Seriously, Sullivan Brown is such the MVP of the NRB , that his sock puppet is a close second..
Adam had a howler here, wrong calls left and right 😂 Legit screaming at the screen when he delayed the vote on Dom 😂
He’s good at board games! 🤔
this is one of my favourite episodes yet: just the beauty of how long it went on and how (adam)ant adam was about his entirely incorrect beliefs while brooke and carley were on the ball and saving the day, the meta about carley being brought up in a game where she was both good AND evil, jon's incredible and distressed minstrel song, so few deaths and so many possibilities, again probably the longest game of this i've ever seen, angela and isaac having such a comedically rough time as the minions, dom the demon playing so well in the first half and then it just falling apart... but of course, most importantly - sock puppet sullivan.
This was such an amazing video. The rap, the surprisingly long Minstrel song, the hilarious moments like 1:14:20 (I had to re-look it up because I lost my comment), the amazing puns....just everything. Love it. You guys are so entertaining.
Even when he isn't there, Sully still steals the show!
Is Dom the first demon who has never successfully killed anyone and have them stay dead?
He essentially had no impact on the vitality of the players
Brooke and Sock Sullivan stole this show, amazing stuff!
an excellent game as always.
thanks for everything, including the subtitles when audio dropped out.
I almost always root for the evil team and was genuinely shocked by the way this episode ended.
great job to all players.
sock puppet or otherwise.
I'm really hoping for a Halloween Live stream if that would even be possible.
cheers all for a fantastic time, almost 3 hours!
finally, the best day of the month is here!!
What an excellent episode. Sock Sullivan is hilarious. Tom's rhyming and Jon's song were great too.
Mistakes were made with my first Devil's Advocate choice...
There was a 1 in 10 chance of hitting the goon, nobody blames you - you just have to deal with the hand you draw Angela.
It wasn't bad per Se, it was that you didn't do anything with them
@@lewisprice8616 Haha that's very true!
Angela, no, throwing sus on Carley was a very good choice! Don was capable of defending himself. The problems were that Carley shouldn’t have played for the good team while she was evil, and the Storytellers shouldn’t have nerfed the game by allowing Carley to die confirmed good.
Can't be blamed for random bad luck, particularly when Carley meta'd the alignment and opportunities to obfuscate that were missed.
Such a stomping. Well done. Carly basically solving the game D2, as usual. I think we need her and Edd to play the same game at some point.
I've noticed when they switch to a new script the first game pretty much no one knows what they're doing, then the second game evil kinda gets shafted because they haven't quite figured out how to use their roles. But then the next games are belters because everyone is more familiar with the script and we get brilliance like Evil Sully and the evil twin episode.
simultaneously the smartest and dumbest town ive seen in this series. they figured it out so early they had too much time to overthink themselves into knots xd still loving the content
Tom's pun game is undefeated. I love him.
There was a bigger pop in this household with a new BotC than there was in Chicago last night. What a weekend to be alive!!!
Ohhhh my goodness. Tom's rap. Perfect. Loved it.
He hit us with his rhythm stick.
I've never seen a Demon get bullied that hard before. Dom had the potential to play better with certain sailor night target bluffs but honestly the Brooke/Carley/Adam trio basically ruined his chances right out of the gate. (Even if Adam did his best to ruin that for the good team twice)
Gambler is great, I had one game where I gambled someone who was having connection issues and thus didn't know what role they are. I didn't die, as I gambled they were the fool, and they were the fool.
Adam did a great job of trying to unravel Carley's spot on assumption and not kill Dom when it was safe to, almost like he was evil 😂
I would have assumed he was evil too
@@crashpeil9890he was resurrected by a professor, which only works if he's a towns-person (it doesn't work on demons, minions, or outsiders). So despite his antics he was confirmed as a goodie.
Dom is such a natural heel.
It's a little crazy that this script, which as Ben mentioned could potentially kill 5 people in one night, went all the way to a day 7 and at the start of day 7, there were only 4 dead players.
Always the best notification i get is a new BOtCT is ready! But when i saw no Sully i was so disappointed! But Brooke...omg Brooke, you really made SPS work so well! And hats off to you and Sully for recording all those! How many more did you record that weren't used?! Brooke, MVP of this episode! :D
Loved watching. The group and their unique relationships and quirks are a great watch and the game, especially with the video setup, is just perfect to draw out and showcase them.
Regarding the game. I think this showss as usual, you can always help good later, but evil needs help early. I think Carley was the wrong kill for the gossip. The Fool would have been best, with Luke or Brooke a good second.
I can understand not wanting to kill characters with one time abilities that have not been used, and it might seem like it was fair to keep the field wide after Blairs gossip. But Luke and Brooke are good targets for the professor, so having unused abilities is not that important.
But most importantly, killing Carley established a circle of trust between her and Adam and confirmed them both very quickly. A very bad thing for evil. If Carley had not died, she would have been an alive goon. Good would have needed to execute her to keep her from becoming evil again. Possibly triggering a Godfather. If they wanted to double tap her in case of Zombul, it would have taken another whole turn. That would have set back the hunt for evil for several turns. Killing Carley was a great gift to her, since now no execution needed to be wasted, with no risk of triggering a Godfather. In terms of this game, Adam would have blocked the use of the courtier a turn longer.
So easily confirming the best player by far in terms of experience and skill, turned them into a game solving commander in chief.
Killing Blair was also a mistake, the info was already going to be gained: Alive yes, she could continue gossiping, she would have needed to risk lives to do so though. Evil had already lost by this point, but if Luke had been chosen, there might have been three more deaths.
But the real reason I think team evil lost was that they were too passive in this game. It is really important to put out false info as much as you can without seeming shady.
For example, the sailor goes before the gambler. Suggesting having drunken, the gambler could have thrown a wench into things. Another example was leaving the single outsider claim uncontested. The Evil players did not even need to claim outsider themselves, just that they have heard of one. As it was, they not only allowed, Carley to claim the single outsider role, but gave away that there was likely no Godfather in play. It also took away the outsiders as bluff. With the goon revealed, they could know that the other outsiders.
Spot on. Killing Carley as (practically) confirmed good was game-deciding. And Luke would have been a better balancing kill than Blair.