helps explaining the reason Willis was bought by another brands that also didn't last that long before being bought themselves... on the other hand, it was a nice detail to make sure your jack failing was one concern less when there were a bunch of eneimies shooting at you...
@wcemichael the engineers design things to align with CAFE and safety standards mandated by 1st world country governments who set the standards. These jacks are designed to pick up 1 corner of the car...not the entire thing, and they perform as designed
Nah, they're all good. Jeep weighs less than 2 tons, and if you lift up the rear to change 1 tire, it'd take less than 1 ton. Even the full plastic jack with some paper tower roller inside would work.
they do what they were designed to do, probably the Willis too, (considering you wouldn't necesarily use it only to change tires, but to help moving something blocking you from reaching your friends... while a bunch of not your friends were closing on you)
Maybe I did once lift the rear end of Mini up manually to push it out of my parking space. I would not go down and change a prop shaft without a proper jack though.
They make everything now to simply do the minimum needed to accomplish whatever job is required, and as cheaply as possible. No pride or quality at all anymore, most likely never to be seen again!
It was probably expected that the Willys jack would be used for quite a few unintended uses, like jacking up a bridge or tank or some other crazy desperate war time shit.
Would have liked to seen the 1940 jeep jack making full contact with the top ram instead of just the edges of the jack top plate. The snapping off of one side at a time affected the center post stability strength.
and in the most stupid way applying the weight on the edges instead of the middle getting a completely worthless result since you have less surface to distribute the weight and on top of that its angled in a way that works like leverage on both sides making it completely break in the middle with lateral forces instead of vertical.... probably a guy that only knows how to press a button on the press to watch things getting smashed while drooling with a blank stare
If the jack meets its rating and holds up the vehicle that it is intended to, why does it need to do more than that?? The new Jeep jack is lighter. Who wants to lug around a heavy jack, when it is not necessary?
@@justsoicanfingcomment5814 If you are changing a tire, you don't get under the vehicle. If you need to get under the vehicle, drive over a rock or curb. Besides, its a Jeep, There is enough ground clearance to easily fit under a Jeep without any jacks.
@@Daveinet No kidding. But when changing a tire, sometimes it's not being changed just for being flat. Barbed wire tangled around the axle is a problem only adressed by climbing under to clear it.
Doesn't matter. All that matters is if the tool can do the job it is designed to do. A 1/2" drive socket/ratchet is much stronger than a 1/4" drive socket ratchet. That doesn't make the 1/2 drive "better" Silly comparison - the modern jack does the job it it made to do - lift the vehicle to change a tire.
The old stuff is clearly the best. I was a mechanic in the Army and our tools never broke. Even though automobiles don’t weigh nearly as much as they did in the 1940’s, who wants to risk or deal with a cheap gear that doesn’t work? Something’s in life, you can skimp on, others, quality is worth every penny.
actually you are looking at survivor's bias, say 10 jacks were made in the 40s, the other 9 failed at lower stress early (remember there was also poor quality control back then), and you end up with the one tough MF that was overrated for the job at hand, newer jacks are built for a lighter overall car, with higher quality control, so you don't need to overengineer it for 16 times the max load it is expected to handle, on the other hand, newer jacks are still to be prunned of the lower end of the quality gap (closer to the ok because materials have improved).
bottle jacks are cool, as long as you avoid storing them on the side for long (trust me, I learnt that the hard way, getting my hand trapped between a car engine and the radiator due to the jack deciding it didn't want to lift anymore midway into the work, it took me about 15 minutes to purge the jack of air, while kneeling infront of the car in a summer noon sun.
So our 1941 JP jack is going to easily lift a fully loaded deuce and a half. Good to know. We don't have to empty it. It can also pick up the Sherman Tank, also good to know.
@@charleswyler4268 Probably. Why make 3 different jacks when you can just make one good one. It is a war, we need to make a lot more stuff than a range of jacks with different capacities.
They're designed different though, the old one is strongest in the lowest position of the jack whereas the new one is strongest in the highest position of the jack.
They just Did not know how to build cheap beautiful crap back then, cus they would have !! the whole idea of the willis was cheap crap. not even beautiful.
Ultimately you're buying the jack. If you're only going to use it once or twice in the lifetime of the car and only to change a tire the cheap jacks work fine. If you're going to be doing some serious work buy a more serious jack.
To be honest - the most impressive was the plastic one. If you want to save cost and weight and not have something that is utter ****** the plastic one was the best And it failed in a predictable way
So the old jack was only roughly twice as tough as a modern bottle jack and 10 times a modern scissor jack.. would be a shame if I got stuck with 1 of those.
I work in the Jeep plant. We don’t use that jack. It’s a similar design but the jack screw is hardened steel and not whatever shiny chrome thing that is. Go to Mopar and look for the jeep scissor jack and you can see for yourselves.
That modern jack is designed to be stronger and stronger the higher it lifts the vehicle off the ground, because the vehicle's springs and suspension and the tire are taking up more load at the start. Completely unfair test. Why don't you try testing 10 identical modern jacks at various levels of extension?
1523kg wasn't that much for a heavy car. What is the rated (safe) weight for that jack? The Nissan jack was interesting, have owned a '94 primera having the same jack, I'd never guess it could stand more than a ton.
👌👌 Typical comparison of how good they built the vehicles 50/70 years ago compared to modern day! A story goes that during WW2 in Britain, Outside toilets built with bricks were used as bomb shelters. Hence the term >> "Built like a Brick Shithouse"! Meaning built Tough! 😆😆👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏 I suppose that you could also use the saying >>> Built like a Willy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Old car jack: set for 950kg, handle 2500 New car jack: set for 1500, handle 1000 And there is no problem... (fun fact i used an 1T garage brand jack and it gave up lifting a single wheel so like 250-500kg) Btw this Jeep jack is made to lift tanks man :o
Yes, old military stuff had to be extra robust ... the "Mercedes" supplied on is garbage ( & today´s Jeep not better), Mercedes was great & it did fall very far ... I'm shocked that the plastic one lasted that good!
In the opposite to the old-American / new-China sledge hammer press-test video (which is basically brainless) this test makes true sense, and is interesting. It seems that some product are made in Russia or at least sold there because of the Cyrillic letters there, specially the bright orange hydraulic lifter and the out-of-plastic-made one. But one can also see Cyrillic letters (00:40) at the new Jeep lifter - just check the word below the red lettered word "AVS". Interestingly the plastic lifter came up with the necessary load of 2 metric tons to lift at least one "leg" of a passenger car easily, I still would never trust this one. Plastic material ages and get soon bridle, especially when exposed to cold temperatures (and sun light = UV-light) inside a car boot in the middle of Siberia or Alaska. So within a few years it might not hold up against such loads any longer. Racing against time because of potentially attacking hungry tigers or grizzlies while changing a wheel, you better have a reliable lifter and not a dubious one-way micro plastic bucket for the job. Steel only or in combination with a good hydraulic jack pump is the minimum requirement. Nice to see the old Jeep / Willys outperforming anything else. The dinosaur still beats all the fast lightweight designs.... As expected. Old is not always better but here certainly gets the gold medal. For the premium 2020 Merc version I feel a bit ashamed as a German engineer. It should be a bit beefier and the whole design with its crazy foot and Y-shaped frame looks very wobbly, it only can be used at a very smooth and precise levelled surface. Exactly where tyres usually tend to fail. Horrible! The sales price of such a Merc certainly would allow something more professionally and as far as I can remember, the boot is big enough to accommodate a slightly larger mechanism-lifter. The design engineer or purchaser or both of the lifter should be fired instantly. Peace! from Dresden / Germany
Have to say, the modern jeep and grand caravan jacks are crap, had one fail like this video at the road side of I-81 in Pennsylvania trying to get one tire in the air to swap on the spare (never mind fighting to get the f@#$ing spare dropped). At this day in age, in North America you are better off throwing out the OEM recovery kit if you are serious about self recovery vs calling a tow truck.
Figures that the MB POS plastic fantastic car would have a scissors type jack with plastic in it. Junk cars and jacks. That old Jeep jack sure was a good one though :)
This is when stuff was built with pride and not about lining their pockets with money. Nothing wrong with making money for a living but no need to make a killing for the stock holder.
As impressive as the old stuff is, there is such a thing as overkill. The modern jacks do the job they are designed to do. These jacks are not meant to support the weight of a car, but merely to lift part of it.
I owned a 1952 Willys M38 for a number of years. Motor sounded like a sewing machine it was so quiet. Brakes not so good. It was fun but for some reason seemed to eat gasoline.
1) No vehicle “eats” gasoline; they drink gasoline. 2) You expect a vehicle made 72 years ago to get good gas mileage? Fuel economy wasn’t a thing when gas was 10 cents per gallon and these vehicles were made for utility, not economy.
Legends say, the Willis one they used for the Shermans too😂
What really?!
helps explaining the reason Willis was bought by another brands that also didn't last that long before being bought themselves...
on the other hand, it was a nice detail to make sure your jack failing was one concern less when there were a bunch of eneimies shooting at you...
That was my first thought. As far as the others, they just have to be strong enough to do the intended job.
Old is gold.
There was a heightened motive for functionality back then.
And I'm old.
It’s a completely different design
@@richardkammerer2814 Like today, because of CAFA mandates from the federal government, lightweight has a heightened motive.
Gold is old. I'm old and in my golden years. But, I don't think I could hold up well under that press.
Old Willys jack was a trooper !
Old Willys jacket didn’t deserve to die 😢
Poor Willys jack.😢
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It's not even a contest. These scissor jacks are only good for changing tires.... BARELY
Blame the government for this.
Only on flat surfaces
@@jlambe19 Blame corporate engineers. It's pretty easy to fold and mold cold flat steel VS making a mold for each hot casting.
@wcemichael the engineers design things to align with CAFE and safety standards mandated by 1st world country governments who set the standards. These jacks are designed to pick up 1 corner of the car...not the entire thing, and they perform as designed
in a flat surface, with no load on the car and with the other tires secured...
Watching that old jack get destroyed hurts. Just showing that it went more than the scissors jack was enough to make the point.😢
Same.
Nah, they're all good. Jeep weighs less than 2 tons, and if you lift up the rear to change 1 tire, it'd take less than 1 ton. Even the full plastic jack with some paper tower roller inside would work.
Absolutely right!
Yes bro we didn't have to lift tank!!
they do what they were designed to do, probably the Willis too, (considering you wouldn't necesarily use it only to change tires, but to help moving something blocking you from reaching your friends... while a bunch of not your friends were closing on you)
Maybe I did once lift the rear end of Mini up manually to push it out of my parking space. I would not go down and change a prop shaft without a proper jack though.
You never know when plastic becomes brittle, until one day you jack up the vehicle, and that thing snaps. It's kinda like the Oceangate of jacks.
A high percentage of today’s output produces appears to be inferior in term of quality
Old is gold
They make everything now to simply do the minimum needed to accomplish whatever job is required, and as cheaply as possible. No pride or quality at all anymore, most likely never to be seen again!
It was probably expected that the Willys jack would be used for quite a few unintended uses, like jacking up a bridge or tank or some other crazy desperate war time shit.
Planned obsolescence, a demonstration.
Just to do the quick conversion, the old jack failed at 36,600 pounds!!! you could lift farm equipment with that, or a large truck..
... maybe an airplane.
That same jack might have been found on a half-track. I wonder?
@@Colorado_Native God only knows what desperate war time uses the Willys jack was put to.
@charleswyler4268 True. Sounds like the makins' of a book. Although too many of the WWII guys are gone. Thanks for the reply.
That Mercedes jack was downright scary!
You should put on each jack the rating it’s supposed to be, and then what it actually reached before failing.
It's a shame that old jack was ruined in testing but it goes to show how overbuilt it was. Bravo!
It's a shame that you had to destroy the old Jeep Willys jack to test it. Now you gotta use the crappier one.😅
Would have liked to seen the 1940 jeep jack making full contact with the top ram instead of just the edges of the jack top plate. The snapping off of one side at a time affected the center post stability strength.
So you had to destroy a 80 year old rare item that survived the war, for views
For clicks, he would destroy one of his balls.
and in the most stupid way applying the weight on the edges instead of the middle getting a completely worthless result since you have less surface to distribute the weight and on top of that its angled in a way that works like leverage on both sides making it completely break in the middle with lateral forces instead of vertical.... probably a guy that only knows how to press a button on the press to watch things getting smashed while drooling with a blank stare
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wtf language is this?
@@im_cart8656 Sinhalese, most common language in Sri Lanka.
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If the jack meets its rating and holds up the vehicle that it is intended to, why does it need to do more than that?? The new Jeep jack is lighter. Who wants to lug around a heavy jack, when it is not necessary?
Says the person who wakes wondering, "How did I get in the hospital?"
@@dittohead7425 Jacks stands. You don't get under a car with a wheel jack.
@@DaveinetYou do if you don't have stands in the field...☠️
@@justsoicanfingcomment5814 If you are changing a tire, you don't get under the vehicle. If you need to get under the vehicle, drive over a rock or curb. Besides, its a Jeep, There is enough ground clearance to easily fit under a Jeep without any jacks.
@@Daveinet No kidding.
But when changing a tire, sometimes it's not being changed just for being flat.
Barbed wire tangled around the axle is a problem only adressed by climbing under to clear it.
Doesn't matter. All that matters is if the tool can do the job it is designed to do. A 1/2" drive socket/ratchet is much stronger than a 1/4" drive socket ratchet. That doesn't make the 1/2 drive "better" Silly comparison - the modern jack does the job it it made to do - lift the vehicle to change a tire.
Be interesting to see how a Toyota Hiace/Hilux mechanical bottle jack would stand up.
normal people - "they dont make them like they used to"
non normal people - "you guys always say they dont make them like they us......OH"
Compress a jar of tannerite😂
😂😂😂😂
Maybe based on the Chicago buildings lift jacks of the 1850's
shame to destroy that old jack
Buy it once, buy it for life. Jeep 1940.
The old stuff is clearly the best. I was a mechanic in the Army and our tools never broke. Even though automobiles don’t weigh nearly as much as they did in the 1940’s, who wants to risk or deal with a cheap gear that doesn’t work? Something’s in life, you can skimp on, others, quality is worth every penny.
actually you are looking at survivor's bias, say 10 jacks were made in the 40s, the other 9 failed at lower stress early (remember there was also poor quality control back then), and you end up with the one tough MF that was overrated for the job at hand, newer jacks are built for a lighter overall car, with higher quality control, so you don't need to overengineer it for 16 times the max load it is expected to handle, on the other hand, newer jacks are still to be prunned of the lower end of the quality gap (closer to the ok because materials have improved).
These WW2 jacks cannot be found anymore
Yeah, shame to see it destroyed for a video
IMHO I would go with the bottle jack because you can find one of those all over the place.
bottle jacks are cool, as long as you avoid storing them on the side for long (trust me, I learnt that the hard way, getting my hand trapped between a car engine and the radiator due to the jack deciding it didn't want to lift anymore midway into the work, it took me about 15 minutes to purge the jack of air, while kneeling infront of the car in a summer noon sun.
wow great
Also note that the 1941 Willy's weighed a lot less than the 2024 model...
I'd also rather have the 1941.
So our 1941 JP jack is going to easily lift a fully loaded deuce and a half. Good to know. We don't have to empty it. It can also pick up the Sherman Tank, also good to know.
Possibly meant to do so.
@@charleswyler4268 Probably. Why make 3 different jacks when you can just make one good one. It is a war, we need to make a lot more stuff than a range of jacks with different capacities.
WTF is that Mercedes Jack???
Wouldn't own a plastic jack but that was impressive.
Bottle vs scissor vs hydraulic. My dad had a 240D with a cool jack design.
Anyone surprised that nearly everything made today is substandard Chi-com garbage? 🙃
I was guessing the bottle jack and I was not wrong, I dunno whether I still have the jack that came with my Landie.
The old one is definitely better, but the new one is still more than you need
Uh, the plastic one did better than the one in my Cherokee?
Awesome..
They're designed different though, the old one is strongest in the lowest position of the jack whereas the new one is strongest in the highest position of the jack.
I clearly need one of these Crazy Hydraulic Jacks in my garage!
The plastic jack did well. Be interesting to know if it was lighter and cheaper than the scissor jack.
Not surprised at all, I use bottle jacks all the time, some hydraulic and some very old screw type, never failed me,
Today, this basic hudraulic jack is the best thing you can affort
Cars used to be heavier, so you needed a more stable jack. 😉
They just Did not know how to build cheap beautiful crap back then, cus they would have !!
the whole idea of the willis was cheap crap. not even beautiful.
Ultimately you're buying the jack. If you're only going to use it once or twice in the lifetime of the car and only to change a tire the cheap jacks work fine. If you're going to be doing some serious work buy a more serious jack.
To be honest - the most impressive was the plastic one. If you want to save cost and weight and not have something that is utter ****** the plastic one was the best
And it failed in a predictable way
So the old jack was only roughly twice as tough as a modern bottle jack and 10 times a modern scissor jack.. would be a shame if I got stuck with 1 of those.
I work in the Jeep plant. We don’t use that jack. It’s a similar design but the jack screw is hardened steel and not whatever shiny chrome thing that is. Go to Mopar and look for the jeep scissor jack and you can see for yourselves.
That modern jack is designed to be stronger and stronger the higher it lifts the vehicle off the ground, because the vehicle's springs and suspension and the tire are taking up more load at the start.
Completely unfair test.
Why don't you try testing 10 identical modern jacks at various levels of extension?
1523kg wasn't that much for a heavy car. What is the rated (safe) weight for that jack?
The Nissan jack was interesting, have owned a '94 primera having the same jack, I'd never guess it could stand more than a ton.
👌👌 Typical comparison of how good they built the vehicles 50/70 years ago compared to modern day! A story goes that during WW2 in Britain, Outside toilets built with bricks were used as bomb shelters. Hence the term >> "Built like a Brick Shithouse"! Meaning built Tough! 😆😆👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
I suppose that you could also use the saying >>> Built like a Willy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Old car jack: set for 950kg, handle 2500
New car jack: set for 1500, handle 1000
And there is no problem... (fun fact i used an 1T garage brand jack and it gave up lifting a single wheel so like 250-500kg)
Btw this Jeep jack is made to lift tanks man :o
Yes, old military stuff had to be extra robust ...
the "Mercedes" supplied on is garbage ( & today´s Jeep not better), Mercedes was great & it did fall very far ...
I'm shocked that the plastic one lasted that good!
In the opposite to the old-American / new-China sledge hammer press-test video (which is basically brainless) this test makes true sense, and is interesting.
It seems that some product are made in Russia or at least sold there because of the Cyrillic letters there, specially the bright orange hydraulic lifter and the out-of-plastic-made one. But one can also see Cyrillic letters (00:40) at the new Jeep lifter - just check the word below the red lettered word "AVS".
Interestingly the plastic lifter came up with the necessary load of 2 metric tons to lift at least one "leg" of a passenger car easily, I still would never trust this one. Plastic material ages and get soon bridle, especially when exposed to cold temperatures (and sun light = UV-light) inside a car boot in the middle of Siberia or Alaska. So within a few years it might not hold up against such loads any longer. Racing against time because of potentially attacking hungry tigers or grizzlies while changing a wheel, you better have a reliable lifter and not a dubious one-way micro plastic bucket for the job.
Steel only or in combination with a good hydraulic jack pump is the minimum requirement. Nice to see the old Jeep / Willys outperforming anything else. The dinosaur still beats all the fast lightweight designs.... As expected. Old is not always better but here certainly gets the gold medal.
For the premium 2020 Merc version I feel a bit ashamed as a German engineer. It should be a bit beefier and the whole design with its crazy foot and Y-shaped frame looks very wobbly, it only can be used at a very smooth and precise levelled surface. Exactly where tyres usually tend to fail. Horrible! The sales price of such a Merc certainly would allow something more professionally and as far as I can remember, the boot is big enough to accommodate a slightly larger mechanism-lifter. The design engineer or purchaser or both of the lifter should be fired instantly.
Peace! from Dresden / Germany
It's a bad idea to break such an old piece.
Have to say, the modern jeep and grand caravan jacks are crap, had one fail like this video at the road side of I-81 in Pennsylvania trying to get one tire in the air to swap on the spare (never mind fighting to get the f@#$ing spare dropped). At this day in age, in North America you are better off throwing out the OEM recovery kit if you are serious about self recovery vs calling a tow truck.
Interesting comparison of the rated load vs failure load. Much happier with the old Nissan scissor jack than the new lightweight rubbish.
Old is good, but in this case you destroy an old tool !
😂😂😂 не знал что они по русски пишут домкрат, а ещё раньше видео было что старый домкрат от уаза😂😂😂
Why am I not surprised, one day plastic will be as strong as titanium
Like everything old, WELL BUILT.
I know it can't 'jack' but wonder what a full sealed soda can could hold.
Figures that the MB POS plastic fantastic car would have a scissors type jack with plastic in it. Junk cars and jacks. That old Jeep jack sure was a good one though :)
This is when stuff was built with pride and not about lining their pockets with money. Nothing wrong with making money for a living but no need to make a killing for the stock holder.
Sadly, a waste of a good jack.
imagine how much research and engineering it took to downgrade metal for it to be as weak as plastic
we came a long way to achieve such feat
The bottom line is you spend 10 times the money for a tenth of the quality
why jack wroted by f*cking rus language?
They don't make um like they use to.
Не правильный тест старого образца.
It's a shame that they had to destroy the Willy's jack.😢
Why are we fixing shit that ain't broken?
Bottle jacks are always better!
3:21 stainless steel.
Wish you use standard
The older, the golder!
As impressive as the old stuff is, there is such a thing as overkill. The modern jacks do the job they are designed to do. These jacks are not meant to support the weight of a car, but merely to lift part of it.
there is no overkill, just shoot and reload (Schlock's maxims)
One is way overbuilt - wasted resources.
It was a war time tool. Expected to be used for god only knows what.
*I AM SO SICK OF EVERYTHING BEING SH!T*
They don't make em like they used to.
Автор, это у вас пресс 500тонн?)
Try to work some pounds in there for us to see.
Just multiply the kilograms by 2.2 and you'll have pounds. One of the easiest conversions from metric to our measurements lol
That's progress for you or is it progressive ?🤣💩
Regressive?
@@Colorado_Native I was just relating it to politics. Progressives don't work as far as manual labor goes.
I owned a 1952 Willys M38 for a number of years. Motor sounded like a sewing machine it was so quiet. Brakes not so good. It was fun but for some reason seemed to eat gasoline.
1) No vehicle “eats” gasoline; they drink gasoline.
2) You expect a vehicle made 72 years ago to get good gas mileage? Fuel economy wasn’t a thing when gas was 10 cents per gallon and these vehicles were made for utility, not economy.
@@harryd9782they don't drink gasoline, they atomize and combust gasoline with oxygen and spark. 😅😅😅
Very cool but every one of them even the plastic one will do just fine for what they are for changing a tire not holding up the entire car.
Ale tandeta. Te nożycowe podnośniki są do kitu. Strach tym podnosić auto.
The scariest one was the Mercedes jack, butbit did muchbetter than I thought it would.
@@Colorado_Native To prawda. Normy spełnił. Najlepszego! Panie.