yeah, happens to me as well when there are airliners waiting for me 🙂 the trick is to have a fast approach and set flaps later but make sure to have that minimum landing speed before touchdown. GA pilots used to smaller airfields very often don't realize they have plenty of time on bigger runways, especially when there is a offset touchdown point far away from the normal threshold.
Man on that first one, I just kept yelling in my head "Go around go around! Why on earth aren't you going around!" Here's hoping I never end up on your channel :D
@@Avicity that was not the problem. He was landing without enough back pressure. Possibly had to much nose down trim and didn't realize. Even after he recovered and tried to land again he let the nose come down first, even wheelied a bit on the nose wheel. Not very common to see on a 172, but very common with people transitioning into high performance aircraft. Probably should have been a baulked landing, but in a 172 its pretty easy to save it.
@@ethanhiggins4887 aircraft will climb when you pull the yoke when its fast.. thats how planes fly. He should have waited for it to slow down or just go around
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Or as a carrier pilot once said. "As long as we get back on the carrier with all the big it's all good 👍 "
All these landings are being mislabeled “bad” landings, but all pilots know a “good” landing is any landing you can walk away from and a “great” landing is one where you can still use the airplane. So these are “great” landings with a lesson included.
Don't be silly. These are all very poor landings. I have done all of them as shown here at one time or another. We all have. The trick is to know when to scrap it and go around. The 1st Cessna did eventually do a good save without a go-around though.
The classic “good” and “great” landing saying has and always will be my greatest pet peeve, and I think it’s doing a disservice to student pilots. “Oh I porpoised during that one but I can still walk away. Must have been a “great” landing!” No.
@@SchillerDuval exactly. such a terrible mentality to be okay with and settle for such bad landings just because “hey I porpoised the hell out of it and came close to destroying the plane and/or killing myself in the process but I didn’t, so it must be a good landing!” any real world pilot that truly believes that any landing that you can walk away from is a “good” landing is definitely a pilot that i do not want to share a cockpit with.
Looks like they were riding a stall for the length of the landing area, then it finally broke while they were still something like 5 feet above the ground, so it just fell like a stone at the end. But yes, compared to the other landings, that one was pretty tame.
I think he just ate up too much runway floating. It actually looked almost like an early model Mooney but I'm not familiar with a taildragger one. The tail was swept forward I think.
1. classic wheelbarrow, touching nose wheel first 2. Cirrus loops in with an unstable approach and side-loaded 3. classic nose-level drop without flaring hard landing 4. another nose first, wheelbarrow 5. just looked low and too fast.
It's Oshkosh, the pressure to "get there" can be strong. A go-around could mean not getting into the show or getting back to your camping spot. Doesn't make it right, but people do some strange things at Oshkosh.
It didn't look that bad. He came in too fast and planted it but he didn't bounce much anyway...and mostly it was on the mains. Plus that's Oshkosh it's a super non standard landing. I think they have to land by a certain spot on the runway etc...it's a whole special procedure
Meh. I live near a small airport where 3 or 4 local flight schools practice pattern, CTAF, landings, touch and goes, etc. it’s always a good show. My hat’s off to the engineers of the C172s landing gear…🙄
Hmm I don't think I would consider most of these bad landings..maybe poor landings.....they're certainly not VERY bad. I was expecting "better" bad landings. Every student at the flight school lands like this lol
Is it not common training in the USA to retract flaps immediately once you land, to help glue the wheels down, why are they going down the runway (once landed) and still FULL FLAPS!!
That’s not taught across the board. With retractable gear aircraft it’s usually taught to leave the flaps alone. This is prevent grabbing the gear handle in haste.
You watch 2 minutes of light aircraft landings, and assume the whole of a nation's private pilots, are taught a specific way??? Do they not teach common sense, outside of the USA?
I know we’ve all bounced and had hard landings, but porpoising like that, come on! Your just asking for a crash. Simply running off the runway can kill you under the wrong circumstances. That’s very poor decision making on.
Not a pilot, but if I ever get the urge to become one and later buy a small plane, I'll gladly pay the extra charge for the "Easy-Auto-Land " button option.
@@BradleySpahn actually they do make those now. At least a year or two now...look at Pipers new stuff with a Garmin autopilot. They can self land in an emergency it's a red button for the passenger.
None of us have the right to feel superior to any of these pilots, because we've all been there before 😂 But that being said, I've made some s't azz landings/controlled crashes in my day lol!!
If you are a pilot you know we have all been there atleast once 🤣
You ain't kiddin'!
Noooo never! Not me lol!
@@wgargan 🤣🤣🤣 isn't a bounce 2 landings?
We all have. And hope that nobody notices or worse yet have camera recording the whole embarrassing attempt.
Once?
That first guy came in at like 100 knots
It’s tempting when you have traffic on your 6.
Mach Jesus 😂
yeah, happens to me as well when there are airliners waiting for me 🙂 the trick is to have a fast approach and set flaps later but make sure to have that minimum landing speed before touchdown. GA pilots used to smaller airfields very often don't realize they have plenty of time on bigger runways, especially when there is a offset touchdown point far away from the normal threshold.
As a CFI I have literally felt of the 172 landings at some point or another. Happens at least once a day.
Man on that first one, I just kept yelling in my head "Go around go around! Why on earth aren't you going around!"
Here's hoping I never end up on your channel :D
or just pull back on the damn yoke
@@ethanhiggins4887 Nah definetly should've gone around. Was coming in way to fast. pulling back on the yoke is what caused him to keep ballooning up
Seems so foreign to people. I'll go around even after the mains have touched if it's not right. I have a video on here of just that actually
@@Avicity that was not the problem. He was landing without enough back pressure. Possibly had to much nose down trim and didn't realize. Even after he recovered and tried to land again he let the nose come down first, even wheelied a bit on the nose wheel.
Not very common to see on a 172, but very common with people transitioning into high performance aircraft. Probably should have been a baulked landing, but in a 172 its pretty easy to save it.
@@ethanhiggins4887 aircraft will climb when you pull the yoke when its fast.. thats how planes fly. He should have waited for it to slow down or just go around
The Cirrus should've just used his parachute.
22Ts are high speed cruisers, not made for pattern frolics.
If you have to push the nose down to get your plane on the runway...
You have too much speed just go around.
Watch your numbers.
Or pull the power!
Best comment and very well stated.
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Or as a carrier pilot once said. "As long as we get back on the carrier with all the big it's all good 👍 "
And any landing where you can re-use the plane, is an excellent landing
A shit landing you can walk away from and re-use the airplane is still a shit landing. This was always a bad joke.
All these landings are being mislabeled “bad” landings, but all pilots know a “good” landing is any landing you can walk away from and a “great” landing is one where you can still use the airplane. So these are “great” landings with a lesson included.
Don't be silly. These are all very poor landings. I have done all of them as shown here at one time or another. We all have. The trick is to know when to scrap it and go around. The 1st Cessna did eventually do a good save without a go-around though.
The classic “good” and “great” landing saying has and always will be my greatest pet peeve, and I think it’s doing a disservice to student pilots. “Oh I porpoised during that one but I can still walk away. Must have been a “great” landing!” No.
@@SchillerDuval exactly. such a terrible mentality to be okay with and settle for such bad landings just because “hey I porpoised the hell out of it and came close to destroying the plane and/or killing myself in the process but I didn’t, so it must be a good landing!”
any real world pilot that truly believes that any landing that you can walk away from is a “good” landing is definitely a pilot that i do not want to share a cockpit with.
What was the issue with the taildragger on the last landing? Didn’t appear to terrible, considering it looked like it was on grass.
Looks like they were riding a stall for the length of the landing area, then it finally broke while they were still something like 5 feet above the ground, so it just fell like a stone at the end. But yes, compared to the other landings, that one was pretty tame.
@@JB_Hobbies Really nice landing that. Tiny aircraft, so the actual height was only about a foot or so.
I think he just ate up too much runway floating. It actually looked almost like an early model Mooney but I'm not familiar with a taildragger one. The tail was swept forward I think.
yeah, wasn't too bad. For context, that aircraft is a "Stark Turbulent", a home-built plane powered by a VW bug engine. It produces about 50hp.
Wow the engine on the 1st one sounded powerful!
A good landing is one you can walk away from, a perfect landing you can reuse the airplane
This is really helpful. not mocking, since i'm doing exact same thing. Guess i have to work on flare more after the levelflight phase.
There was an AB on pillow block on main landing her.
Lol.....why do I have a feeling I may be on a future episode here 🛫😆
... made my day 😀🤗
They say any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Unfortunately for these pilots, it was the airplane doing the walking away.
We all have done this at one time or the other and hoped that nobody notices or worse yet have camera recording the whole embarrassing attempt.
Hold if off Skyhawk or you probably have firewall damage
I’m a student and have one minor PIO to my name. Knowing when to go around is critical and shouldn’t be looked upon as an issue but as good piloting.
at 1:54 min it must be a "Stark Turbulent" from Brunswick Waggum at Gifhorn Wilsche Germany😉
1. classic wheelbarrow, touching nose wheel first 2. Cirrus loops in with an unstable approach and side-loaded 3. classic nose-level drop without flaring hard landing 4. another nose first, wheelbarrow 5. just looked low and too fast.
Those 172's are made of aluminum. Except the main landing gear is spring steel.
@@jimmiller5600 Cirrus struts are made of layered carbon fiber, far stronger. But that is not the point of the video.
that first landing im just thinking in my head “hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it… nope they tried to force it”🤦♂️
As long as it doesn't need to be towed in I'm good with it
Usually 3 bounces and you call the insurance company! Lol 👍🙋♂️🖖🏻
You're right! 🙂
I'm watching this instead of studying for my checkride...
At 0:43 someone is copying Niko’s Wings Athena down to the tail number…
These are actually all good landings, probably mostly student practice and this is how you learn
Good landings, c'mon. If these are good landings, what are really bad ones?
I don't consider any of these landings as HARD landings. Bad landings, yes. Hard landings, no.
The Cirrus-landing is very very hard! Unbelievable! What a terrible decision to land at that moment. You can always go around!
Surprised he didn't pull his 'chute to be fair
It's Oshkosh, the pressure to "get there" can be strong. A go-around could mean not getting into the show or getting back to your camping spot. Doesn't make it right, but people do some strange things at Oshkosh.
It didn't look that bad. He came in too fast and planted it but he didn't bounce much anyway...and mostly it was on the mains. Plus that's Oshkosh it's a super non standard landing. I think they have to land by a certain spot on the runway etc...it's a whole special procedure
@@nothing1421 that’s BS. You don’t get denied entry if you go around. You’re simply recycled back into the queue for another try.
@@fiveoboy01 Thank you! It is a bad farry tale that one is even rejected completely... 🙂
Bro these are way better than my landing 😂
😂😂
🤣😂🤣
Meh. I live near a small airport where 3 or 4 local flight schools practice pattern, CTAF, landings, touch and goes, etc. it’s always a good show. My hat’s off to the engineers of the C172s landing gear…🙄
Hmm I don't think I would consider most of these bad landings..maybe poor landings.....they're certainly not VERY bad. I was expecting "better" bad landings.
Every student at the flight school lands like this lol
Is it not common training in the USA to retract flaps immediately once you land, to help glue the wheels down, why are they going down the runway (once landed) and still FULL FLAPS!!
That’s not taught across the board. With retractable gear aircraft it’s usually taught to leave the flaps alone. This is prevent grabbing the gear handle in haste.
You watch 2 minutes of light aircraft landings, and assume the whole of a nation's private pilots, are taught a specific way???
Do they not teach common sense, outside of the USA?
Every airline: wtf was that
Ryanair: you're hired
After bouncing down the runway for 1500' the Cessna finally slowed down enough for a proper landing.
Poor energy management
Nice 👍
A lot of my landings in FS2020 are like this 😂
Lots of pilot induced oscillation going on there. Makes my previous landings look good🤔😲😄😄👍✌️
any landing you can walk away from...
I've never done that before LOL - But don't worry, I logged all 12 landings HA HA 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You have never done that before, but hope that one day you might be able to manage something that good !
@@hb1338 "sarcasm" for sure - Note, I logged all 12 landings on the 1 Touch-n-Go
Take the top cowling off and look 👀
Been there done that but any landing you can walk away from is a great landing.
Aaaaaaaaa!!!!!! Ffs!
There's a creepy stalky vibe to all of this
Goal: never end up in one of these video
Most of these pilots need glider time...
I counted about 20 landings! 🙂
Zulu Zulu, possible ex navy. They planted that one so hard the runway might grow a cirrus.
😀🤗
That last guy thought he had butter til the ground said, "I believe you can fly"!
Not a good title. A bad landing is when the plane cannot be reused. These are great landings!!
They all accomplished the main purpose of a landing.
0:46 and everyone is watching.
What's with the audio 🤷🏻🤦
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You can allwayyyssss go around
This comments section needs more people to say “I was taught a good landing is one you can walk away from”
Right?
00:15 Bet the pilots of that 757 where laughing there ass off.
Those pretty much look like my landings
First bounce, go around
You can always go around
This is so funny 💥✈️ I’ll definitely blame the instructors , nowadays new pilots know nothing about bounced landings 😖
That first guy could log 4 or 5 landings
🤣😂
Armchair experts! Surely someone else noticed the windy conditions in some of these landings!
I was taught 50 years ago, if you can walk away from it, it was a good landing.
Technique only:
Land main wheels first in a trike.
A good landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is one you can walk away from and still use the airplane.
The last one wasn’t so bad.
Yeah, I thought the last one was nearly a perfect 3 point landing, other than being a bit too high.
I was rooting for him.
All landing too fast
Most of these really aren't bad landings tho. The rest of them yes. ESPECIALLY THE 172s
I've bounce my 172 a few times like that.
Touch and go x 3
I know we’ve all bounced and had hard landings, but porpoising like that, come on! Your just asking for a crash. Simply running off the runway can kill you under the wrong circumstances. That’s very poor decision making on.
Ryan air cadets? XD
If you want to see what happens when you really screw up check out the video posted on my channel
Clickbait! None of those landings were really that bad. I've seen LOT'S worse without dinging the plane.
The tricycle gear pilots not holding the nose off-sheesh painful to watch.
Not really my definition of Hard/Bad landings.
In which a bunch of nosedragger pilots think "3-point landing" applies to them.
The second to last one was not that bad TBO
Ngl, been there done that 🤣
Let’s see all the non pilots give their expert advice.
That’s not a good landing 🛬 for the plane
cut power😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Eh that’s kind of softcore
This comment section looks like a bunch of bots.
Just use a compilation of Ryanair landings hahahaa
Not a pilot, but if I ever get the urge to become one and later buy a small plane, I'll gladly pay the extra charge for the "Easy-Auto-Land " button option.
Eh, they don’t make those and tbh it’s not really that hard.
@@BradleySpahn actually they do make those now. At least a year or two now...look at Pipers new stuff with a Garmin autopilot. They can self land in an emergency it's a red button for the passenger.
@@gringoloco8576 fair pt!
None of us have the right to feel superior to any of these pilots, because we've all been there before 😂 But that being said, I've made some s't azz landings/controlled crashes in my day lol!!
I've seen worse.
Here we go with "any landing you can walk away from is a good landing "🥱
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