Really informative, and great to see the differences between a full-blown custom build and off the shelf. Pretty capable, and I like the way they set it up. Thanks for sharing, Ding Dong! 😉
I clicked the video to see what 4WS was about. my goodness i have a ton of room for improvement with my driving. you did a really good job showing both vehicles. and now i have room to love about RC crawling
I remember I used to get mad when I’d break something but you learn that it’s just part of using your RC for the intended purpose. Super cool Video & your driving skills are killer. Mine have been improving & it just takes time out with your crawlers to learn first hand what they will do. I’d love to see you get a mini crawler & give that a go. It’s frustrating after using your 1:10 scale crawlers but any little thing becomes a obstacle. Gunna check out your gear now. Happy Holidays!
It depends what I break and how. That tumble was big and I expected something to break. If I’m doing something mellow and I hear a snap I’m not as calm about it haha
Super informative, I enjoyed seeing them go line for line. The rtr did really well, I was surprised. I'm glad I just picked one up, can't wait to run it. Thanks for the video 📹
Man the commentary is gold on these videos.... been a trail guy now getting into rock crawling. Rear steer and dig looks hella dope.... can use that on trail truck lol. Have a good one man and keep vids coming.
@@westdesertwheeler don't suppose you can suggest a cheaper end controller that can do similar to yours whilst getting the dig? i don't wanna be constantly bouncing my dumborc receiver to a fro too much, that and its 6 channel so i think its overkill, also i wanna run at beaches like tenby with plenty of rocks to crawl, im gonna be bleedin skint after getting either a capra 4ws or a cr01... (please note skint is british slang for broke, got no money
That's a very nice video! You obviously have a lot of experience with the technical driving! There's an area where I live called elk Rock off the Willamette River just south of Portland Oregon. It's an excellent place to rock crawl it's all Solid Rock and the cool thing is if you lose it you only fall about 5 feet at the most. It's very popular for rock crawling.
Awesome video!! Thank You for explaining how yours is set up. Never thought of the 6th channel potentiometer for rear steering. Great idea!! Still trying to decide if I want one of these. Thanks for the info!!!
I’m going to have to load up my truck and head here on my way to utah one of these trips ! Come here a lot for work and always pass here! Looks like an amazing spot!
I can't wait to set mine up for 4ws. Mine will be set up very similarly, with the dig and rear steer in the same places on my controller. The "extra" 3 way switch is being used for a winch that i installed up front :D i love my capra!
I was thinking of getting some portal axles for my 1/10 4x4 home built truck that I use for checking crawl spaces. Then I thought, why not also make it 4 wheel steer? I think that would be a good idea.
Love your videos, great driving skills. I have a moded Capra and I'm considering buying the 4ws version, you may have just convinced me. Ha. Thanks again for sharing. John. Keep em coming.
I felt that fall all the way up here in Utah County! 😖 this helped a lot! I just picked up the 4 wheels steer this evening to go with my other Capra. I think I need one of those radios. The smoothness it much better than the notchy 2 position.
@@westdesertwheeler my flysky arrives today. I ordered it through your link. Can’t wait to get down there this weekend. Do you find a lot of those areas off tower road or are they up near top of the world? Just curious. Where do you find your best crawl spots? Are they off the normal crawling trails? Thanks
Thanks Logan. Just converted my Capra to 13.5" wheelbase and 4 wheel steer. This is really informative and entertaining! I also have some 2.2 trenchers coming for it. I've got my 4 wheel steer set up pretty much like yours, so I guess that part is good!
@Sweat Bigcon - I had a bomber sitting around. I put those links on the rear and I had turnbuckle links in the front so I could extend those. The rear is stretched more than the front, but that's OK with me as it puts weight further forward
Nice comparison. Nearly finished a 4ws moa. Was debating independent control but didn't have a pot on my radio. Didn't occur to me I could use buttons. I can set Divisions on mine so can go 10% per click. Sweet.
So the Capra in stock form has rear steering but you just can’t use the dig until you upgrade controllers? Am I understanding that right? It seems odd they put a feature on a car that’s not usable without an upgrade.
Question if using the Flysky controller for dig on the new Capra you have to replace the receiver but it is a combination esc & receiver so as I understand your kind of screwed because you’ll have to replace the esc as well. Is this true?
Hey Logan. Have you used the FlySky Crawling mode with the built-in rear steer options? I don't have a rear steer rig to try with the GT5 crawler settings built into them.
I have a 4ws Wraith controlled by a GT5. The built in options are fun, but the utility of it is low. If you have 4ws, you want them controlled independently like he has it.
Hey Logan, great video as always and your crawlin skills kill it per usual. I was curious what you used to stretch your capra out. I was plannin to go 2.2 on mine because of you and I really liked how the LWB seemed to play with you rig. Thanks man! keep the juicy videos comin!
Enjoying your videos. Question: I'm pretty new at modding RCs and was wondering if I need to swap out any parts on the RTR Capra 4WS to use the same controller you have? I like the function of the unlimited rear steer instead of the factory stepped controller.
Great comparrison! So the RTR has dig in it, but does it come with a servo installed and just no avalable channel, or is an instant radio upgrade and servo purchase needed to get dig and 4WS?
greetings so, small question im currently deciding between the rtr capra 4ws and the Tamiya rock socker (also 4ws out of the box, its just assembly required) which for me will cost roughly the same, the rock sockers main known issues is that 1 Tamiya is known for buggies and track cars (and a few rally cars that are amazing) and not rock crawlers, so they don't have a dedicated crawler compound tyre, as a result they are too hard (even the softer aftermarket ones are too hard) 2 is that it shocks are known to leak if your unlucky or simply careless and 3 the cr01 is very top heavy, but ironically the class of crawler its based on is very top heavy to begin with now the capra from what i can see is oddly close in performance to the cr01 rock socker albeit with significantly better tyres (axial does specialise in trail trucks, crawlers and bouncers after all) and much lower centre of gravity (trail buggies are known for really low centre of gravity, hell some are practically low riders) and as a result is nowhere near as top heavy (though to be fair, the cr01 is an oldschool built like a freaking tank chassis with metal chassis rails that look ripped from a truck built to tow tanks) but from what i have seen, with some modifications the articulation of the cr01 can make the capra look bad considering what type of crawler its based on (the cr01 uses semi cantilever suspension with the shocks on cantilevers and barrel springs on the axal) so i guess the question is, if i got a capra, what modifications would you advise? and what is your opinion of the Tamiya cr01 rock socker? both are the only crawlers i know that have 4ws out of the box, and im kinda fed up with pedal to the metal rock bouncers and the "can't make up my mind" rock racers, i thank you for any advice you could impart also, i envy you, you got clean redsand desert...all i got is an hour drive to old ruins not too far from the Rhayader dams with old slate chippings gravel with hunks of slate here and there, its okay for crawling, but only just, at least you have something to run desert trucks, desert buggies and 2wd buggies like the tomahawk
Hi! I was given a New Bright Slidewinder for Christmas and have developed a bit of an off-road rc bug! Question is, if a guy on a budget wanted to get started with this type of machine what would be a solid first investment? Thanks and take care!
Exceptional how you control the rear steer. I did full rear on the capra with 5 channer and DX5c radio. I can full rear, crap and rear steer only. I would like to control independently like you did. Do you know a way to do this on my DX5c with the Spectrum 515 receiver? What kind of receiver are you using? Hoping I don't have to buy another radio to do this. Thank you. Jim B.
Wow! Thant controller is sweet. Thanks for the info, Amazing video as always. Do you think your TSL's helped at all? Those are my favorites👍 Great video and thanks for sharing
@@westdesertwheeler Could I ask a few questions about your controller setup. Have you got front and rear dig setup? If so how are they engaged. Currently running a Gt3c but really want independent rear steer. Love how the dig is setup on it though on a 3 way switch.
@@westdesertwheeler perfect thanks. Also great videos. All the talking is super informative and interesting and your builds are siiiicckk. Just watching all the chupacapra videos. That car is a dream rig
So I’m definitely thinking of getting a Capra. Obviously to start out with a rear steer setup the rtr would be the cheaper option. I’m assuming by changing the radio out the rear steer would have better controls?
Hey, we have almost identically configured Capras. I'm over heating my Motor and saw in Josh's chat tonight someone mentioned having the same issue as I am having and they attributed it to the Capra Trans. Are you running the stock trans or did you change it up, and if so what are you running, if you don't mind sharing. THX ✌
Great video. I am on the fence about converting my original Capra to 4WS or buying an RTR. What is the estimated cost of the conversion minus the radio and receiver? Thanks again
@@westdesertwheeler for sure! I got a old scorpion 🦂 ax 10 and was going to make 4ws and upgrade transmitter. But it’s was going to be like over 300$ for everything.😯 so I just spent the extra money and got this. much better all around 😁
The Amazon affiliate link is in the description for the flysky controller, if you click on that link to start, anything is counted as an affiliate! Thanks for the support!
@@westdesertwheeler Great! Shoot me a name to those wheels. There are so many to choose from I get lost in the minutia of it all and end up not adding anything to the cart! 😂
“Dialed” is how I’d describe your rig. Your driving skills are BOSS!! I hope you have a controller setup vid in your library. SUB’d, Ty for the very informative video. Peace out..:)
I don't get how the hell is he working all them knobs with his fingers on one hand I don't understand that there's no way in hell he could reach that top whiskey from down off of handle
Really informative, and great to see the differences between a full-blown custom build and off the shelf. Pretty capable, and I like the way they set it up. Thanks for sharing, Ding Dong! 😉
I clicked the video to see what 4WS was about. my goodness i have a ton of room for improvement with my driving. you did a really good job showing both vehicles. and now i have room to love about RC crawling
I remember I used to get mad when I’d break something but you learn that it’s just part of using your RC for the intended purpose. Super cool Video & your driving skills are killer. Mine have been improving & it just takes time out with your crawlers to learn first hand what they will do. I’d love to see you get a mini crawler & give that a go. It’s frustrating after using your 1:10 scale crawlers but any little thing becomes a obstacle. Gunna check out your gear now. Happy Holidays!
It depends what I break and how. That tumble was big and I expected something to break. If I’m doing something mellow and I hear a snap I’m not as calm about it haha
Super informative, I enjoyed seeing them go line for line. The rtr did really well, I was surprised. I'm glad I just picked one up, can't wait to run it. Thanks for the video 📹
Man the commentary is gold on these videos.... been a trail guy now getting into rock crawling. Rear steer and dig looks hella dope.... can use that on trail truck lol. Have a good one man and keep vids coming.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. Dig is awesome for a trail truck
@@westdesertwheeler don't suppose you can suggest a cheaper end controller that can do similar to yours whilst getting the dig? i don't wanna be constantly bouncing my dumborc receiver to a fro too much, that and its 6 channel so i think its overkill, also i wanna run at beaches like tenby with plenty of rocks to crawl, im gonna be bleedin skint after getting either a capra 4ws or a cr01...
(please note skint is british slang for broke, got no money
Thats a good crawler right there. Climbed up that stuff like no problem.
Finally grabbed one of these, couldn't resist the sale!
That's a very nice video! You obviously have a lot of experience with the technical driving! There's an area where I live called elk Rock off the Willamette River just south of Portland Oregon. It's an excellent place to rock crawl it's all Solid Rock and the cool thing is if you lose it you only fall about 5 feet at the most. It's very popular for rock crawling.
Awesome video!! Thank You for explaining how yours is set up. Never thought of the 6th channel potentiometer for rear steering. Great idea!! Still trying to decide if I want one of these. Thanks for the info!!!
I’m going to have to load up my truck and head here on my way to utah one of these trips ! Come here a lot for work and always pass here! Looks like an amazing spot!
It sure is, definitely worth a stop
I can't wait to set mine up for 4ws. Mine will be set up very similarly, with the dig and rear steer in the same places on my controller. The "extra" 3 way switch is being used for a winch that i installed up front :D i love my capra!
Sensored brushless is so smooth I’ve been hooked since I first tried it
Sensored brushless has spoiled me to a point that I immediately replace stock electronics on RTR's lol
I was thinking of getting some portal axles for my 1/10 4x4 home built truck that I use for checking crawl spaces. Then I thought, why not also make it 4 wheel steer? I think that would be a good idea.
Love your videos, great driving skills. I have a moded Capra and I'm considering buying the 4ws version, you may have just convinced me. Ha. Thanks again for sharing. John. Keep em coming.
It’s a good value man!
Great video! Any chance you might upload a update on the trailfinder 2?
I felt that fall all the way up here in Utah County! 😖 this helped a lot! I just picked up the 4 wheels steer this evening to go with my other Capra. I think I need one of those radios. The smoothness it much better than the notchy 2 position.
Yeah it was a hard hit. The Flysky controller is great for rear steer and you can add dig
@@westdesertwheeler my flysky arrives today. I ordered it through your link. Can’t wait to get down there this weekend.
Do you find a lot of those areas off tower road or are they up near top of the world? Just curious. Where do you find your best crawl spots? Are they off the normal crawling trails? Thanks
Thanks Logan. Just converted my Capra to 13.5" wheelbase and 4 wheel steer. This is really informative and entertaining! I also have some 2.2 trenchers coming for it. I've got my 4 wheel steer set up pretty much like yours, so I guess that part is good!
I just started building my Capra what did you do to convert your wheelbase to 13.5 if you don’t mind me asking
@Sweat Bigcon - I had a bomber sitting around. I put those links on the rear and I had turnbuckle links in the front so I could extend those.
The rear is stretched more than the front, but that's OK with me as it puts weight further forward
Nice comparison.
Nearly finished a 4ws moa. Was debating independent control but didn't have a pot on my radio. Didn't occur to me I could use buttons. I can set Divisions on mine so can go 10% per click. Sweet.
So the Capra in stock form has rear steering but you just can’t use the dig until you upgrade controllers? Am I understanding that right?
It seems odd they put a feature on a car that’s not usable without an upgrade.
I like to see how that shit works man don’t feel bad if you’re talking about a set up you have
Great videos. Really like your content. Do you do tips and tricks vids showing your setups?
This video really makes me want a Capra. Guna make it my second 1/10. Great video!
Great video 👍🏽 lots of info. Hey did you have to change pinon when running the 2.2 Thx.
It's a great place for Rock Crawling RC. I am amazed every time I see it. And I enjoyed watching the Capura comparison video. thank you.👍👍👍
Question if using the Flysky controller for dig on the new Capra you have to replace the receiver but it is a combination esc & receiver so as I understand your kind of screwed because you’ll have to replace the esc as well. Is this true?
Unfortunately yes. Hobbywing 1080 and Flysky receiver will work well together but it’s another 40$ for a new esc
Glad I watched this … I’ve got that same controller and was wondering how I’d control my rear servo … Thanks
Killer video as always brother. Love the Capra videos.
Where is the rc trail
Thinking about taking my axial rr10Bomber
Hey Logan. Have you used the FlySky Crawling mode with the built-in rear steer options? I don't have a rear steer rig to try with the GT5 crawler settings built into them.
I have a 4ws Wraith controlled by a GT5. The built in options are fun, but the utility of it is low. If you have 4ws, you want them controlled independently like he has it.
@@bdates1111 Thanx. I figured it just tied both servos to the steering chnl.
Hey Logan, great video as always and your crawlin skills kill it per usual. I was curious what you used to stretch your capra out. I was plannin to go 2.2 on mine because of you and I really liked how the LWB seemed to play with you rig. Thanks man! keep the juicy videos comin!
Yay! Dogger loves crawling too!
ANOTHER GREAT INFORMATIVE VIDEO LOGON SIR. TAKE CARE AND HAVE A GREAT WEEK 🇬🇧🇺🇸🕊️✌️👍
Do you have any content on the Flysky GT5 system?
Your videos are always exciting and informative!
How do I stretch my capra, what pars please
Best first mods for the 4ws Capra?
Hello from V&b speed a new rc community channel stop in say hi thank u ✌️
If one were to buy the Rtr version and then later upgrade just the remote would that achieve the same DIG and adjustable steering you have Logan?
Fun fact about sand hallow in 2017 4 wheeler magazine’s ultimate adventure went there as the last trail with there full size
Enjoying your videos. Question: I'm pretty new at modding RCs and was wondering if I need to swap out any parts on the RTR Capra 4WS to use the same controller you have? I like the function of the unlimited rear steer instead of the factory stepped controller.
Hi from V&b Speed a new rc community channel stop in say hello thank u
How did you setup the 4WS on the radio?
What shocks and lengths are u using.
How did you manage to fit that 21kv spektrum motor in the Capra… it’s longer then the stock motor and hits the shock mount on the skid plate..
Just dremel it a bit. Really easy no problem
what pinion gear do you use for the 2.2 swampers? Edit: Also what foams do you use?
Toying around with a few ideas to reinforce the stock front housings for the Capra on my current build we shall see how it works out if at all.
Would definitely be interesting!
Hello I wish take sane model as your you have a link
Great comparrison! So the RTR has dig in it, but does it come with a servo installed and just no avalable channel, or is an instant radio upgrade and servo purchase needed to get dig and 4WS?
greetings
so, small question im currently deciding between the rtr capra 4ws and the Tamiya rock socker (also 4ws out of the box, its just assembly required) which for me will cost roughly the same, the rock sockers main known issues is that 1 Tamiya is known for buggies and track cars (and a few rally cars that are amazing) and not rock crawlers, so they don't have a dedicated crawler compound tyre, as a result they are too hard (even the softer aftermarket ones are too hard) 2 is that it shocks are known to leak if your unlucky or simply careless and 3 the cr01 is very top heavy, but ironically the class of crawler its based on is very top heavy to begin with now the capra from what i can see is oddly close in performance to the cr01 rock socker albeit with significantly better tyres (axial does specialise in trail trucks, crawlers and bouncers after all) and much lower centre of gravity (trail buggies are known for really low centre of gravity, hell some are practically low riders) and as a result is nowhere near as top heavy (though to be fair, the cr01 is an oldschool built like a freaking tank chassis with metal chassis rails that look ripped from a truck built to tow tanks) but from what i have seen, with some modifications the articulation of the cr01 can make the capra look bad considering what type of crawler its based on (the cr01 uses semi cantilever suspension with the shocks on cantilevers and barrel springs on the axal)
so i guess the question is, if i got a capra, what modifications would you advise? and what is your opinion of the Tamiya cr01 rock socker? both are the only crawlers i know that have 4ws out of the box, and im kinda fed up with pedal to the metal rock bouncers and the "can't make up my mind" rock racers, i thank you for any advice you could impart
also, i envy you, you got clean redsand desert...all i got is an hour drive to old ruins not too far from the Rhayader dams with old slate chippings gravel with hunks of slate here and there, its okay for crawling, but only just, at least you have something to run desert trucks, desert buggies and 2wd buggies like the tomahawk
Any tires recomendations on a stock trx-4 sport.or setup??
What was the animal on the top at 4:53???
My dog
@@westdesertwheeler for a second I thought it was some kind of panter.
Hi! I was given a New Bright Slidewinder for Christmas and have developed a bit of an off-road rc bug! Question is, if a guy on a budget wanted to get started with this type of machine what would be a solid first investment? Thanks and take care!
Hello from V&b speed a new rc community channel stop in say hi thank u
Axial Capra.
Exceptional how you control the rear steer. I did full rear on the capra with 5 channer and DX5c radio. I can full rear, crap and rear steer only. I would like to control independently like you did. Do you know a way to do this on my DX5c with the Spectrum 515 receiver? What kind of receiver are you using? Hoping I don't have to buy another radio to do this. Thank you. Jim B.
You can’t with the spektrum. You need a Flysky GT5
Wow! Thant controller is sweet. Thanks for the info, Amazing video as always. Do you think your TSL's helped at all? Those are my favorites👍 Great video and thanks for sharing
Thanks, I’m sure the tires helped. Proline makes great stuff. I tried not to make it about the size of the tire for the obstacles
@@westdesertwheeler
Could I ask a few questions about your controller setup.
Have you got front and rear dig setup? If so how are they engaged.
Currently running a Gt3c but really want independent rear steer. Love how the dig is setup on it though on a 3 way switch.
Can’t get over you getting those nitros to work!,😂
How did you stretch the wheelbase on yours?
Different links and rod ends
I am new to this and keep hearing the term "dig". What is this? Diff locks or bias breaking or something? Thanks
Dig refers to disconnecting the rear driveshaft so that the front wheels are the only ones under power. Dig usually also locks the rear tires in place
@@westdesertwheeler perfect thanks. Also great videos. All the talking is super informative and interesting and your builds are siiiicckk. Just watching all the chupacapra videos. That car is a dream rig
So I’m definitely thinking of getting a Capra. Obviously to start out with a rear steer setup the rtr would be the cheaper option. I’m assuming by changing the radio out the rear steer would have better controls?
Great test vidéo my friend , I realy like the location , so beautiful ! ,perfect for crawling session !! Well done my friend 😃👍😉
What links and rod ends are you using to stretch it Logan?
Traxxas 5525 rod ends
Awesome videos! Great job
Hey, we have almost identically configured Capras. I'm over heating my Motor and saw in Josh's chat tonight someone mentioned having the same issue as I am having and they attributed it to the Capra Trans. Are you running the stock trans or did you change it up, and if so what are you running, if you don't mind sharing. THX ✌
Peeked around and I think I am changing out to a Vanquish 3 gear with Hertz dig on a Vader skid. Still interested to hear what you are running.
Do you have the cen f450 I think that truck would make a good sand rail what do you think.
Haha I don’t have one. Not sure what direction I’d go with a CEN.
The damn line where it drops off downhill now makes me want to go 4WS.
Great video. I am on the fence about converting my original Capra to 4WS or buying an RTR. What is the estimated cost of the conversion minus the radio and receiver? Thanks again
Thank you very much for that very cool and informative video ... 🤩
Got stock 4ws one🙂🍻👊🏻🤙 cannot wait to try on rocks this summer
They work great! Rear steer is a whole new level of fun
@@westdesertwheeler for sure! I got a old scorpion 🦂 ax 10 and was going to make 4ws and upgrade transmitter. But it’s was going to be like over 300$ for everything.😯 so I just spent the extra money and got this. much better all around 😁
The tease!
Where can i get capra axles?
You have to buy them as parts or get a whole truck
Great video brother! Love your videos!
Hey man great videos. What do you think about a 1/6 Capra? I think it would be awesome.
What wheels!!!!! I want wheels to hug the portals as tight as possible thanks!
A very Cool and informative Vid! THK's for the Share! Loved and Subscrived! Greatings from Portugal!
Thanks so much!
Would you be willing to sell your Capra? If so how much?
Great video man!
awesome 👏 thanks for sharing bro
Love this video. 👍👍
Get an Amazon affiliate link to those wheels and tires! They're my next upgrade!
The Amazon affiliate link is in the description for the flysky controller, if you click on that link to start, anything is counted as an affiliate! Thanks for the support!
@@westdesertwheeler Great! Shoot me a name to those wheels. There are so many to choose from I get lost in the minutia of it all and end up not adding anything to the cart! 😂
4:56 You being stalked by a coyote?
“Dialed” is how I’d describe your rig. Your driving skills are BOSS!! I hope you have a controller setup vid in your library. SUB’d, Ty for the very informative video. Peace out..:)
Super nice video
Sydney 😍😍😍
Nice video
Big like❤
Very noice😉
I don't get how the hell is he working all them knobs with his fingers on one hand I don't understand that there's no way in hell he could reach that top whiskey from down off of handle
Haha lots of practice
"That's not good............that's bad..........ahhhhhh"! Lmao, great video, as always! 👍
I thought it was ding dong from west desert wheeler😂
Haha yeah, that intro is in the works
😁😁👍👍
I love crawlers there just way to expensive
Try 1/24
so this is what it feels like to be one of the first to comment
Maybe you should put some weight on the Capra. 😆
It’s a possibility….
I saw a cat in the background... thought you ought to know...
What point? There have been tracks here
@@westdesertwheeler at 4:53 a cat (or what I'm pretty sure is a cat) walks across the background.
I watched the whole thing and didn’t see one. If you can, let me know what time in the video it is. I had my dog out there with me.
@@westdesertwheeler I put the time in my last reply, if you didn't see it here it is again 4:53, it could be your dog though.
I watched it, yeah that’s just my dog