i swear bruh almost everything , even the animations seem better in old deepwoken like the old animations had such a nice aesthetic that just doesn't give the same feeling in the current one , it's sad
@@vulth9907 the old one felt much less scripted and planned, it felt like a world you had to discover. Now we quite literally have a streamlined gameplay loop: go to trial of one, farm some island, go depths/bosses/pvp until bell and then get max level. Even the builds are streamlined, you know exactly what you need. The game just got discovered too quickly...
@Omar Ching Chong No, it always felt mysterious. The atmosphere and vibe is entirely different, and the world seemed to be designed much more around exploration and discovery. Rag changed it because exploration and discovery only last a few playthroughs, a game with semi-randomized builds will last a lot longer. Changing the game to be more focused around different builds and replayablity isn't inherently a bad thing, but in the process Rag kinda neglected to actually make the game feel alive. Everything we were promised during Old Deepwoken _made_ it feel like it _would_ be alive. Guilds and Factions you could join that actually had a _purpose._ The game used to (or planned to) have missions and jobs you could do for progression that affected your reputation with various factions. They hyped faction rep to be a huge deal when in reality angry factions just attack you and refuse to talk to you, which doesn't really effect you at all. The only Faction with any meaning are the Etreans because when you get high rep with them you can get the duke key I guess, but even that whole quest is pretty bare bones. They made everything seem bigger than it was going to be. Or maybe they planned everything to be bigger than it is now, but obviously they fell far short.
@@katkatkatboom2 even then we would've discovered most everything sooner or later. Rogue lasted a lot longer in terms of mystery. There really just isn't that much to DW.
@@sagehanson190 but again old dw apprently had less content with all the tutorials n shit it would've been discovered faster? but thats just me. actually old dw leveling and mantra getting was tedious so yeah ur prob right
If you have Animal King, you actually unlock a unique piece of dialogue from the Deep Owl encounter where instead of responding like normal, they “tilt their head curiously.”
the bandit beater part is funny to me as in the first week of release, i started saying that it was a bandit beater where the bandit beats you because of how bad i was
looking back on this video (its march 24 2024) its neat to see all the things that got added back into the game. Bari bari being skeleton key, venting being, well venting, rythm and more.
To those who don’t have time to watch the video, Here is the full vid, thank me later Iceberg- Freeze yourself in ice. Heal in the first two pulses of a ring, and chill enemies too close. You gain autoparry for three hits while this is active. Heals 10% when not upgraded Possibly can be upgraded with Stratus Stones and Eternal Logstones Don't use when your teammates are nearby, because this can freeze others. - DW wiki
I would've liked if they kept it simple without bells and so many combat mantras. I also like the concept of actually going on a mission with friends and getting rewards of it. I would love to experience deepwoken back in the days when there wasnt much to it.
You know that's what they had been doing up to this point right? They kept having to cut off parts until it all flowed well and it's the main reason the game is so dry right now. You ask ro remove more and you'll straight up kill the games player base
9:10 i rememeber hearing of this before i remember going into the discord server that had this (it was also a porn server) to grab a bunch of map assets to animate in and i saw a channel specifically for datewoken im more surprised it fucking made it into the iceberg, i thought it was just an inside joke within the server lol
I'm a freshie and the Deepwoken world for me it's like a mysterious universe in my opinion, talking to npc, getting money, exploring the sea, getting wiped, leveling up till level 3 then getting ganged up... I mean I'm still new but I love the deepwoken atmosphere
Surprising you didn't mention Isopods spawning in the Karliah quest Krulians can look like any race but no Aelita is not one The Time Bubble is a an Oath-ability not a Murmur as confirmed by Arch before The Stranger is unable to provide Tacet and is now just a (broken) enemy spawn
@@historicflame972 Obviously the Visionshaper abilities players get aren't set to what's possible in canon. Aelitas clones are Visionshaper abilities, Ferryman's arent. The teleporting is a pretty goofy thing but it's nothing the Ferryman does (that's directly related to their Thundercall again), Aelita's teleport makes the Visionshaper sound and either is an in-canon Visionshaper ability or is (more likely) to just be a way to implement Aelita's vow of no killing in a trickster-like way, not really many other ways to implement a non-lethal lethal option.
I'd argue that Deepwoken is a bandit beater. It's not as bad as _some_ out there, but we were lead to believe that progression would be more complex than "fight NPC." In reality that's all it is with a few extra steps. What happened to the missions and jobs during the direct? What happened to guilds actually having a purpose and specialization? Why did Ragoozer say progression would be "diagonal" when it's clearly just a straight goddamn line.
never was finished actually, it was just a gag, the playable one was "boobwoken" which is still spreading around, an image of it was posted on the gremor page of the wiki awhile ago as a "female varient"
Bro the mantra cores thing seem it would be such a good addition instead of relying on rng to get the mantra you want and it would give grinding some of the mobs more of a reason to grind them
There’s a bunch of stuff missing here, though I only really know one thing myself. I found a giant structure in the middle of nowhere when sailing with a friend. We literally found the gateway to the other luminants and took some sick artist role-worthy shots. Sadly I was unable to send my art for whatever reason so no art role. Also there was nothing there, we couldn’t really go inside or anything so we just climbed to the top and took photos, then glided to the top of a nearby mountain to have an incredibly distanced 1v1.
@@somerandomtouhouenjoyer4879 nah it was the lighthouse I think. It had some flavor text saying it was the gateway to other luminants or something. Still cool though.
@@heathjake25 mb I thought the lighthouse and the temple were the same thing but the temple is actually in the hive so it was most likely the lighthouse, though it's also related to the lightkeepers
When I was a freshie I got animal king so I died with it, got termite right after, died again. It’s real and overpowered I just had the brain of a freshie when I had both
tbh if the deepwoken we saw in deepwoken direct was the current game deepwoken would've been way better. although more tedious it seemed much more fun (E.g. Isle of crows, mantra cores to have truly customisable spells, finding sellers of books to power up) seemed more adventure filled and less of a "bandit beater"
@@Mariama_Kane true ig however in my opinion the older concepts seem much better than current concepts. games too rng and it makes it unfun. (such as having 43% luck all the way to lvl 60 and getting like 2 legendaries and there the ones u don't want lmafo) just a pain
they needa bring some of the islands that were removed back to the game and give specific loot types depending on the island and there loot is not for stats but cosmetic purposes i feel like more varients of armors just as cosmetics but specificly for the island will improve the game alot since most of the players once high leveld all want is more dripped items in game but in return itd be cool if these islands were meant for high levels and not really grindable as a low level in other words very difficult. for example: isle of crows and meteor isle had so much work into it just so it can be removed?
Would bring too much lag to etrian luminant and most of them wont be used or be rarely used compared to the metas. Between some content that most people barely use or having no lag its obvious what would be better. Also lag is prob the reason why they make different layers for depths so it does not become a lag clusterfuck.
@@computer8490 or would you decide to scrap actual good islands, LITERAL islands shown in the direct without telling everybody and just giving them the conclusion of: "lag"
I hope they add water magic as a secret op unlock like it says that you have to discard your humanity away so what if you have to do something to not be human anymore or considered like something bad to get it that would be cool
I think a good idea for a video, is you literally just go on an alt account on discord, then hop in the rogue lineage or deepwoken vc and just record whatever everybody says and compile all the good parts. It's like a podcast and people saying really random stuff. "is that a woman?" "no i'm a boy" "i love you" "bruh stfu"
Meatlord is not Dorgon because the meatlord is an adret (One time my game was still loading as I just joined and the meatlord didn’t had his helmet on revealing an adret’s face with yellow facial markings)
8:24 idk about now but maybe about 2+ months ago, I would be able to check the code logs or wtv and it shows up if the murmur NPC spawns. It always did spawn when I went to erisia but I could never find it. (I think the requirement is 50 charisma)
@@mano__diep1318 although I dont think she is a kurlian she does have the power to teleport you to a random location on the map if you fail her game so I'd say that counts as a god like power
can confirm animal king is a real thing, if you get knocked by a minitrysa bandit with animal king they say "dont try that again" or smth and leave u alone, best way to farm tbh
1 5:22 have yall noticed that this clip is by the same hacker who loves to make hoaxes by the way? (same tophat with horns and backshield) 2 at 10:35 this may be true, ive spent $200 trying to get ganymede and only got capra (once)
The monotone voice keeps reminding me of “number fifteen, Burger King foot lettuce. The last thing you want on your Burger King burger is somebody else’s foot fungus”
You can find isopods after getting the quest in etris and going to erisia near mudskippers, if you take the person into the cave, she gets attacked by them
I just loved the classic aesthetic old deepwoken had with it’s design and characters, made the game look clean in the direct
i swear bruh almost everything , even the animations seem better in old deepwoken
like the old animations had such a nice aesthetic that just doesn't give the same feeling in the current one , it's sad
@@vulth9907 the old one felt much less scripted and planned, it felt like a world you had to discover. Now we quite literally have a streamlined gameplay loop: go to trial of one, farm some island, go depths/bosses/pvp until bell and then get max level. Even the builds are streamlined, you know exactly what you need. The game just got discovered too quickly...
@@pantommy 50k players what do you expect loool
old deepwoken seems much more mysterious and adventure filled, i bet it would be interesting playing and actually exploring
thats what i was thinking
@Omar Ching Chong No, it always felt mysterious. The atmosphere and vibe is entirely different, and the world seemed to be designed much more around exploration and discovery. Rag changed it because exploration and discovery only last a few playthroughs, a game with semi-randomized builds will last a lot longer. Changing the game to be more focused around different builds and replayablity isn't inherently a bad thing, but in the process Rag kinda neglected to actually make the game feel alive. Everything we were promised during Old Deepwoken _made_ it feel like it _would_ be alive. Guilds and Factions you could join that actually had a _purpose._ The game used to (or planned to) have missions and jobs you could do for progression that affected your reputation with various factions. They hyped faction rep to be a huge deal when in reality angry factions just attack you and refuse to talk to you, which doesn't really effect you at all. The only Faction with any meaning are the Etreans because when you get high rep with them you can get the duke key I guess, but even that whole quest is pretty bare bones. They made everything seem bigger than it was going to be. Or maybe they planned everything to be bigger than it is now, but obviously they fell far short.
@@katkatkatboom2 even then we would've discovered most everything sooner or later. Rogue lasted a lot longer in terms of mystery. There really just isn't that much to DW.
@@sagehanson190 ya everyone blames youtubers but the game is just empty asf compared to rogue
@@sagehanson190 but again old dw apprently had less content with all the tutorials n shit it would've been discovered faster? but thats just me. actually old dw leveling and mantra getting was tedious so yeah ur prob right
If you have Animal King, you actually unlock a unique piece of dialogue from the Deep Owl encounter where instead of responding like normal, they “tilt their head curiously.”
Proof?
@@kristve6798 i have animal king and it true
@@shark5799 į need screenshots or a clip
@@kristve6798 i wipe it smh( but i confirm it true sorry for late rep)
That's cap
the bandit beater part is funny to me as in the first week of release, i started saying that it was a bandit beater where the bandit beats you because of how bad i was
lol
looking back on this video (its march 24 2024) its neat to see all the things that got added back into the game. Bari bari being skeleton key, venting being, well venting, rythm and more.
To those who don’t have time to watch the video, Here is the full vid, thank me later
Iceberg- Freeze yourself in ice. Heal in the first two pulses of a ring, and chill enemies too close. You gain autoparry for three hits while this is active.
Heals 10% when not upgraded
Possibly can be upgraded with Stratus Stones and Eternal Logstones
Don't use when your teammates are nearby, because this can freeze others.
- DW wiki
bro...💀
ok
it heals 2% non upgraded
@@adthecool9369 tbh it was over nerfed
Only 1 parry now :(
I would've liked if they kept it simple without bells and so many combat mantras. I also like the concept of actually going on a mission with friends and getting rewards of it.
I would love to experience deepwoken back in the days when there wasnt much to it.
You know that's what they had been doing up to this point right? They kept having to cut off parts until it all flowed well and it's the main reason the game is so dry right now. You ask ro remove more and you'll straight up kill the games player base
9:10 i rememeber hearing of this before
i remember going into the discord server that had this (it was also a porn server) to grab a bunch of map assets to animate in and i saw a channel specifically for datewoken
im more surprised it fucking made it into the iceberg, i thought it was just an inside joke within the server lol
YESSSS ive been waiting for this, i always like iceberg type vids
I'm a freshie and the Deepwoken world for me it's like a mysterious universe in my opinion, talking to npc, getting money, exploring the sea, getting wiped, leveling up till level 3 then getting ganged up... I mean I'm still new but I love the deepwoken atmosphere
Watched this while you were making it W vid
i knew i wasnt the only one that remembered the khan seller from day 1 its been driving me crazy
Who else remembers officers note drop from lower erisia.
yeah I still don't know what it does
@@ncluc3434 it would give you good reputation, i dont know for what tho.
4:35 i saw that npc on release day but when i went back he was gone.
Surprising you didn't mention Isopods spawning in the Karliah quest
Krulians can look like any race but no Aelita is not one
The Time Bubble is a an Oath-ability not a Murmur as confirmed by Arch before
The Stranger is unable to provide Tacet and is now just a (broken) enemy spawn
ratmations my goat
@@historicflame972 Obviously the Visionshaper abilities players get aren't set to what's possible in canon. Aelitas clones are Visionshaper abilities, Ferryman's arent. The teleporting is a pretty goofy thing but it's nothing the Ferryman does (that's directly related to their Thundercall again), Aelita's teleport makes the Visionshaper sound and either is an in-canon Visionshaper ability or is (more likely) to just be a way to implement Aelita's vow of no killing in a trickster-like way, not really many other ways to implement a non-lethal lethal option.
isopods also spawned at boatmans watch in an old clip i saw
Aletia is a krulian
The stranger gave my friend tacet but since 6 months ago he has been unable to find him, he was probably removed somewhere in a shadow update
That last one was relieving cus I got felinor on my first character
"venting probably wont come back"
New video: "VENTING IS GONNA BE A HUGE PART OF THE NEW COMBAT UPDATE!"
Was here when you were streaming. Sick seeing you edit your videos and put so much effort in them and it helps me out as I am content creator too
so isopods are the creatures that kill Karliah?
ye
@@Agamatsu wait i thought ants solod karliah LOL
@@emillic7976 same
i started play recently and people thought venting would be a BELL??
I'd argue that Deepwoken is a bandit beater. It's not as bad as _some_ out there, but we were lead to believe that progression would be more complex than "fight NPC." In reality that's all it is with a few extra steps. What happened to the missions and jobs during the direct? What happened to guilds actually having a purpose and specialization? Why did Ragoozer say progression would be "diagonal" when it's clearly just a straight goddamn line.
There is no arguing, it is a bandit beater. Now whether that has a negative or positive connotation is up to you.
I can’t find anything except for the incredibly rare sharko or uncommon crab
@@fourtyfir wdym i went to erisia like 3 months ago and it spawned like 2 sharkos every 1 minute the place was filled with sharkos
@@babaloons4887 he is talking about the red sharko that spawns in songseeker
@@aquarter6863 no
If that last one was true, then how come my first three slots are felinor?
small thing about datewoken
it did actually exist and was playable, but they never actually finished it
never was finished actually, it was just a gag, the playable one was "boobwoken" which is still spreading around, an image of it was posted on the gremor page of the wiki awhile ago as a "female varient"
I actually got termite randomly after getting most of the food cards
Bro the mantra cores thing seem it would be such a good addition instead of relying on rng to get the mantra you want and it would give grinding some of the mobs more of a reason to grind them
Man it would be really cool if they remastered the old islands and put them back in the game now
when is new rogue lineage iceberg
There’s a bunch of stuff missing here, though I only really know one thing myself.
I found a giant structure in the middle of nowhere when sailing with a friend. We literally found the gateway to the other luminants and took some sick artist role-worthy shots.
Sadly I was unable to send my art for whatever reason so no art role. Also there was nothing there, we couldn’t really go inside or anything so we just climbed to the top and took photos, then glided to the top of a nearby mountain to have an incredibly distanced 1v1.
was it the lighthouse?
thats either the lightkeeper temple or the lighthouse, I found the lightkeeper temple once and it sounds like what you described
@@somerandomtouhouenjoyer4879 nah it was the lighthouse I think. It had some flavor text saying it was the gateway to other luminants or something. Still cool though.
@@heathjake25 mb I thought the lighthouse and the temple were the same thing but the temple is actually in the hive so it was most likely the lighthouse, though it's also related to the lightkeepers
When I was a freshie I got animal king so I died with it, got termite right after, died again. It’s real and overpowered I just had the brain of a freshie when I had both
I watched you while you edit this
Waiting for this since the livestream
tbh if the deepwoken we saw in deepwoken direct was the current game deepwoken would've been way better. although more tedious it seemed much more fun (E.g. Isle of crows, mantra cores to have truly customisable spells, finding sellers of books to power up) seemed more adventure filled and less of a "bandit beater"
You’ve never played old dw so you can’t really say it would be better, plus a lot of testers have said that current dw is better than old dw.
@@Mariama_Kane true ig however in my opinion the older concepts seem much better than current concepts. games too rng and it makes it unfun. (such as having 43% luck all the way to lvl 60 and getting like 2 legendaries and there the ones u don't want lmafo) just a pain
@@chiefryanz502 Yeah the game s heavily png based bit there making an effort ant making it less rng.
@@Illumina1414 some old concepts should DEFINITELY be added back they would be so cool
basically just think for a moment and u will know this system would be dogshit and make the game grindy as fuck
Instead of removing like half the islands , they should have reworked them. Now were left with little to no content and could have way more
They say some islands didn't have enough content:// look at songseeker
I was here on the entire stream. Yall gotta be there in the struggle to be here in the success.
Oh, Isopods are what killed Karliah, that quest gave me trauma the first time I did it on like the 3rd day of release damn
what is The Abyss music i swear i remember it but idk the name
if Deepwoken ever goes back and adds old content, Meteor Isle and Isle of Crows should for sure be readded
they needa bring some of the islands that were removed back to the game and give specific loot types depending on the island and there loot is not for stats but cosmetic purposes i feel like more varients of armors just as cosmetics but specificly for the island will improve the game alot since most of the players once high leveld all want is more dripped items in game but in return itd be cool if these islands were meant for high levels and not really grindable as a low level in other words very difficult. for example: isle of crows and meteor isle had so much work into it just so it can be removed?
Would bring too much lag to etrian luminant and most of them wont be used or be rarely used compared to the metas. Between some content that most people barely use or having no lag its obvious what would be better. Also lag is prob the reason why they make different layers for depths so it does not become a lag clusterfuck.
@@computer8490 or would you decide to scrap actual good islands, LITERAL islands shown in the direct without telling everybody and just giving them the conclusion of: "lag"
Damn we need new updates that add more adventure to the game and more islands to explore
Is it just me or, Testing phase has more content than the original ;-;
It feels like it...
from the looks it does, but we dont know how many incomplete things it had
I hope they add water magic as a secret op unlock like it says that you have to discard your humanity away so what if you have to do something to not be human anymore or considered like something bad to get it that would be cool
everyone would have it 💀
was here during stream another W from agamatsu
Par’s cat maid is just watered down mimic tear from elden ring
10:37 THIS FREAKING JUMPSCARED ME HOLY HELL
FINALLY🎉 an actually video from agamatsu!!!
I think a good idea for a video, is you literally just go on an alt account on discord, then hop in the rogue lineage or deepwoken vc and just record whatever everybody says and compile all the good parts.
It's like a podcast and people saying really random stuff. "is that a woman?" "no i'm a boy" "i love you" "bruh stfu"
10 months damn old deepwoken was really mysterious and really cool to explore and grind
they removed so many good islands
Krulians are shapeshifters aga. Aelita could be a krulian
Yo im a time traveler from layer two and we have venting and the rhythm murmur and also we have meteor isle
Hey nice vid bro good explained
I kinda wish that there were more island like a new Celtor island where Celtors made it in too a new home
3:33 is that the thing killed karliah in the cave if we choose option 1?
when u gonna do the remake of this iceberg when layer 2 drops
it was fun watching the vid get made live :))
We. Need a kraken, literal depths that would be tundra where u cant see anything and shit like bottom of ocean and we need more mysteries
unnamed guild has the scuffed version of the par ability called “the boyfriend summoning”
Meatlord is not Dorgon because the meatlord is an adret (One time my game was still loading as I just joined and the meatlord didn’t had his helmet on revealing an adret’s face with yellow facial markings)
his hands are also blue which is enough to figure it out
Ayo when is the next stream?
8:24 idk about now but maybe about 2+ months ago, I would be able to check the code logs or wtv and it shows up if the murmur NPC spawns. It always did spawn when I went to erisia but I could never find it. (I think the requirement is 50 charisma)
@@Utetheisa-Coloptera-Ulgari idk something like tacet.murmur=on or som
Isle of crows should've stayed lowkey
4:20 I saw a sharko use that mantra once
personally the islands from the directs and wave 0-1 sound really cool, i wish they had keeped it
make a vid analysing your old merit video and explaining thing by thing thats different
they should just bring back some of the old wave 0 islands and things for content honestly..
6:39 this doesn't disprove her being a krulian, the ferryman is a krulian but he still looks like an etrean
why would she be a krulian? what godlike powers does she have like the ferryman that fucking teleports arounds and uses purple lightning
nawh she a visionshaper, she even has purple eyes
@@mano__diep1318 although I dont think she is a kurlian she does have the power to teleport you to a random location on the map if you fail her game so I'd say that counts as a god like power
Well doesn’t she make clones that look different from herself so who’s to say she can’t change her appearance?
@@mano__diep1318 she did make clones that looked similar and she can also tp you away
there's an npc at fort merit that tells you to go to the isle of crows even though it doesn't exist anymore
can confirm animal king is a real thing, if you get knocked by a minitrysa bandit with animal king they say "dont try that again" or smth and leave u alone, best way to farm tbh
The sharko rumbling was a reference to the rumbling in attack on Titan as a tribute to it ending in 2023
3:26 old mantra that didnt got added on release
3:47 it's also a One Piece reference
PLEASE MAKE MORE OF THIS
yo the rogue lineage ost in the background brings so many memories
1 5:22 have yall noticed that this clip is by the same hacker who loves to make hoaxes by the way? (same tophat with horns and backshield)
2 at 10:35 this may be true, ive spent $200 trying to get ganymede and only got capra (once)
YOOOO I RECENTLY SAW 2 ISOPODS I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THEY WERE SO I TOOK SCREENSHOT are they still in the game?
2:55 no, he said water magic would never be wielded by a PLAYER. perhaps npcs?
i dont understan why they would remove those sick islands they had during the direct, that was so cool and the events were original and creative.
Agamatsu, You forgot to mention that Karliah dies to Isopods
Just realised the amount of stugf we can add in the Cut Feature page of the wiki
The monotone voice keeps reminding me of “number fifteen, Burger King foot lettuce. The last thing you want on your Burger King burger is somebody else’s foot fungus”
finally a decently long video!
primal vesperians are so cool, i wish it was just an EXTREMELY rare race
Is the world serpent the same thing that appears when your game is loading?
i hope layer 2 gives us more interesting content like this, the old islands was pretty cool
soy de tenerife xd
@@w8086 Epaa q god yo de gran canaria xd
I can approve the existence of the stranger as I found one myself as a freshie but didn't have enough charisma to talk to him
You can find isopods after getting the quest in etris and going to erisia near mudskippers, if you take the person into the cave, she gets attacked by them
you forgot to add the part where when you speak to karliah after killing the mudskipper if you tell her to follow you she will be killed by isopods
If isopods were removed that would mean Karliah has SUCH A BIG SKILL ISSUE SHE REVIVED A SPECIES JUST TO DIE
Why is there two videos abo it a similar looking iceburgs in elden ring and this game
I remember to see a npc captain using adagio but i don't remember when it was
they need to add crow island back, it looks so cool. and the chest thing that you can put it in a bag
I think the legendary boots requirement is your age?
What's the first ost u used?
Just imagine if they made the sharko rumbling a real event that can happen on a random island
this video really just highlights how superficial my knowledge is as it pertains to deepwoken lore lmaoo
on the last one i feel more attacked than scared, tf did they give me felinor for
I think theres another one that needs explaining : “Terrapod is a turtle”
The fact I knew everything on this list makes me feel like I should touch grass
wait wait… bro said accelerator from ‘ABA’ like hes not an actual character in an anime
RIP old merit was so cool sad to see deepwoken get dry