At the age of 10, I lived in the southern Peloponnese city of Kalamata, and survived the German occupation by the ancient practices described here. My father was a textile engineer whose high paying job came to a sudden end with the Hitler invasion of Greece. Fortunately, my father still owned his inheritance on a mountainside village some 20 miles from the city. The family left the luxurious house in the city, and moved to a small village farmhouse unreachable by modern vehicles, and relatively free from the German occupation. My father's inheritance consisted of lands that had been farmed for centuries for olives, grain, and grapes. He quickly revived the old practices, as described by VDH, to produce enough food for us and many who had no land. I can tell you that the ancient life as described by VDH is very accurate because I lived it for 4 years to survive and be here today.
I would like to applaud the courage, strength and endurance of your family, for their valiant actions clearly demonstrate the remarkable achievements of your magnificent, ancient ancestors, whose undertakings clearly represent the crux of the modern Western culture and society. As such, I hope you do not object to my statement, claiming that each one of us, citizens of the modern Western World, are proudly their socio-political descendants.
This has 17 THOUSAND views in FIVE MONTHS meanwhile, carbi b’s WAP has 172 MILLION views in ONE month. helps one to understand the social condition that we’re in right now.
Until reading your comment I haven't even heard of Cardi B. So I searched her and watched one of her videos. Gosh... I wish I could unsee that horrible video. Yes, it's pop culture, but Frank Sinatra and Nat Cole were also pop culture (way before my time, but I enjoy it). Pop culture is entertainment for people, but the general culture level of the people is going downhill.
We have a great country, but I agree with your suggesting it needs improvement. In fact, I believe we need a revival of traditional values and massive school curriculum reform.
"If America is to be spared and to avoid the horrors of a dying nation, we must rediscover what it means to love God and one another." --Billy Graham, Sept. '96 Newsletter, B.G.E.A., of the Billy Graham Crusades.
"Those who live and hate shall redeem their souls too late." --Savage Grace, Warner Brothers recording artists, out of the Detroit/Ann Arbor, Michigan area, late '60's early '70's time period.
You see they don't hate West but they also love east. Science and complex math without hindu-arabic numerals and zero is impossible and without science there is no computer.
Every time I listen to VDH, I feel like I have so much to learn. Specifically, the culture that I live in: Western Civilization. Love me some learnin'.
Sadly, there was a time when this information was considered a fundamental part of a basic education. And it wasn't even that long ago. A century maybe.
The West doesn't exist anymore: Western blood is disappearing, its musical tradition is also dying, and the same can be said of most of what is Western.
Finally...a gift. The origin of our Western Civilization. All who haven't studied this should turn to it (especially our youth). The unique cure to the destruction of all that we hold dear. Many thanks to Dr Hanson and to the American Freedom Alliance.
SK Bob ..You’re quite correct, but do you realise that those same principles were championed by Countries & Empires who colonised, enslaved & raped the World of its riches. That’s why I call it looney liberalism. The ones who are trying to bring down Western civilisation & it’s virtues are the same ones who have benefited-from its principles. I agree though, liberal in the real sense shouldn’t be used when describing these people.
Ferazhin Lexico where is your evidence for all your wild claims? You say Islam “consistently” uses the left to take over nations, where and when has that happened?
Dr. Hansen is able to capture and keep my attention like none of my professors in College. He is America's professor. He brings a unique perspective having grown up live and produce on a farm of his own his family's 5 Generations back in California San Joaquin Valley incidentally where Devin Nunez is a representative in Congress I find that fascinating it begs the question is there a concentration of patriotic intelligence in California in the San Joaquin Valley
Thank the Lord for VDH. He is what a learned professor is supposed to be like. It’s too bad we don’t have more of them and there’s so many of them have shipwrecked their intelligence by going to the left. VDH is another reason why I can proudly say 1953 was a great year since he and I share that same year of birth. I like that VDH is very reasoned and measured and calm supporting what he teaches with good sound evidence and history.
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Thank you for this. Its really interesting! And the way you describe it makes me feel transported back to those sunny fields of wheat, barley, olives and grapes, where an ancient Greek is surveying his land, and figuring out what to do next.
So true.And the spirit of all this is still in Greece.Because of that there is not Europan Union without of greece.In 2007 ,the time of crisis I spent my vacation in Greece.(as always).And some of greece people talking about leaving the EU.Some of them afraid to be expelled from EU.Sitting and talking in taverna at night ,eating simple fresh food(like 1000 ears ago)and drinking homemade wine ,even then I thout .There is no EU without Greece.Never.Like there is no tree without roots.And I miss my cancelled vacation in Crete.Eating olives and making salad with olive oil ,sent to me from Crete.And waiting to go to Athens again.Thank You for all good lectures.Waiiting for more
no europe won't miss greece one bit. the only reason they holding them in is so the greeks pay off their debts. the greek economy is miniscule and irrelevant really to europe
I call it the European Civilization" because everything started in Europe. That is what I learned in school, born in Europe I am proud of all the Europeans accomplished through the centuries and brought it to other countries all over the World.
An incredible video. When he’s spot on, which is almost always, there is no better lecturer than VDH. There’s one sentence I have an issue with: “it’s not that one group of people were inherently smarter than another”; but it did not detract or diminish the quality of this presentation, and doesn’t contradict my opinion that this was a spot on video. Even Einstein wasn’t always “exactly correct”.
mike a I really don't see how opposition of the confederacy equates with opposition to Western Civilization - or how it even relates at all. But, since it was mentioned, wasn't it the confederacy that wanted to protect the institution of slavery? But to memorialize it via glorious monuments of its defenders must therefore be an act of racial tolerance.
Another riveting experience in learning. Started a Western Civ course at Hillsdale. So busy had to put it on hold. This is a great substitute initially, easy to listen to while working on simple chores, though I will listen again and take notes on a later date with more time. Whoever did the screen shots did a great job, very helpful. I've listened to many lectures from Victor where the screen shots would have been very helpful to a working class guy like me. Realize more educated folks might not need them. Thanks to Prof Hansen and AFA, much appreciated. .
Informative, meaningful, edifying , profound! History at it's best is visionary! And the vision presented here of the past and hopefully the future is compelling. A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.
College graduate 🎓 in classical history. As a youngster I always was involved in ancient history of Greece and Rome. In the navy I spent 3 years in Greece. Love the country and its ppl back in 70s.
Outstanding educational video! It clearly, easily illustrates the very fundamental tenets which constitutes the origins of our Western Civilization. As such, I would like to congratulate Mr. Victor Davis Hanson; thanks for this excellent upload! (subscribed)
The question is how do we return the logical disinterest education back into the academy? In this Neo Dark Age Prof VDH, Freedom Alliance and Hillsdale are beacons in the looming darkness.
One hint is the fact that Hillsdale College is one of only a handful of colleges in this country which do NOT take any government-backed student loan money or other government grants. When an institution takes this money, it must comply with the federal bureaucracy's quirky interpretation of various "anti-discrimination" laws passed from 1972 onward (including the notorious Title IX). If an institution is to retain its freedom to teach, to hire faculty based on actual competence, etc., it must bite the bullet and reject federal funding (including federally-back student loans). Hillsdale College made this conscious decision back in the 1980s.
We should give tks and be proud of western civilization. Like no other. There should be in u.s. a month dedicated to the culture of western civilization.
One thing you didn't seem to take into consideration Dr. Hanson is free movement within the city states. I am thinking that sophists, philosophers, historians, geographers etc. were able to move about the Greek world, thanks to the city state and the shipping (travel) routes. That spread new ideas like never before AND the free time that many of the upper class Greek citizens found available made dissemination of these idea take place even faster. The advance of civilization is really about the advance of ideas, technology, religion etc. There was no people in the time period you discuss that were like the Greeks in hearing new ideas as well as looking for new ideas. Although Pericles may have been responsible for precipitating the Peloponessian War he was right about one thing: Athens was the school of Greece. Athens had become a focal point for artists and scholars since the end of the Persian War but had also been a focal point for those with arts, beliefs and skills for a long time before that. The previous 'school of Hellas' were the Greeks from Asia minor who came to Athens to enrich it culturally and socially. It seems even Pericles' paramour was from Ionia but came to Athens to run a 'salon' similar to the salons in France during the Enlightenment. So Athens was also the 'student of Hellas'.
"The Ecstasy of Carbon" describes the world after Empire and much of Western Civilization collapse in a cacophony of Identity Politics, polarization and fractious subdivisions. It is a story informed by an Anthropological Futurism that is described from the point of view of the survivors that delves into a rarely imagined possible outcome of our current political climate of tribalism and divisiveness. It is a book that builds upon its precursor from 2010 entitled "Fixed Stars Rise," one of the first books to predict the collapse of Empire and the rise of Gay Elitism with its awareness of the unique evolutionary characteristics and trajectory of the gay male form as that most ideally suited to hybridize with increasingly complex AI who have no need or desire to perpetuate what will soon be the superfluous act of biological procreation with its inherent costs and conflicts, especially with what is feared to be a loss of rationality and personal freedom in a hyper-feminist world. Everything is again open for discussion in this existential moment where the most fit of the fittest must be chosen for hybridization... It probes the riddle of why male homosexuality has continued to arise in the random distribution of human evolution. Concomitantly, it ponders what the role of women and femininity would be in this future society of gay man/machine hybrids who will have no use for procreation. It discusses the evolution of concepts and ideas, especially in accordance with technological developments. It is here where is discussed the gradual and then meteoric ascension of Porno for this new race and this new world, whereby only with the hindsight afforded by these technological innovations can it be perceived to encompass the gist of the deepest ontological meaning in existence, embodying the most vital workings of the energies of chemical reactions in their purest and most unifying forms, revered among the scholarly disciplines. It explores what is unique in the physical and cultural evolutionary history of Western Europeans, particularly Northern Europeans, which affords many of them a capacity---sometimes even a predilection---to feel ashamed and guilty and angry at the historical success of their heritage. It is the proclivity for The Bleeding Heart, which dissipates in the populations of Eastern Europe and Southern Europe and is rarely, if ever, found in the rest of the world's populations. Finally, it discusses the resolution of one of the most profound physical and conceptual dichotomies inherited from the human evolutionary path: the conflict between individualism, which is associated with the European trajectory, and that of collectivism, which is associated with the East Asian trajectory. "The Ecstasy of Carbon" is available now on Amazon in both the hardback and kindle version.
Another use for olive oil and grapes is in treating skin infections, especially cuts, due to war or accidents. First step was to squeeze grape juice on the wound, then pour olive oil on it . The sugar from the grape kills any bacteria and the oil also has longer term antibiotic properties (olive leaf extract).
Well produced. Except the music was slow to fade out at the beginning causing me panic. "Oh, no. Another editor who doesn't know what appropriate background music volumes should be."
Western civilization milestones in a nutshell: - Ancient Greece - Roman Empire - Renaisssance - Reformation - Enlightenment - Industrial revolution There is a missing link, though. During Europe's dark ages, the torchbearers of philosophy and science became Arab and Persians. When Baghdad was the cultural center for half of the world, around 1,000 years ago, they reunited and developed ancient knowledge from Greek philosophers, Indian mathematicians and many other sources, laying down the basis for modern algebra (al-Jabra) and calculus. They brough these new conceots to Europe (what we call Arabic numerals were in fact Indian, plus the concept of zero that was the true revolution brought by Arabs). One of the most famous was Al-Khwarezmi (guess where the word "algorithm" comes from). During the 13th century, a cultural shift in Islamic doctrine and also Mongol invasions shut down that beacon of light, bringing the epicenter of scientific and cultural activity back to Europe, and posing the foundation for the era of Atlantic Empires, Renaissance and so on.
How did Baghdad become the cultural center? How did they learn Greek and acquire these developments, including architecture such as the dome? They conquered eastern Christians, and implemented the basis of civilization they already had. The Bedouins did not nurture these things in a vacuum. Nonetheless, these things are never mentioned. The Greeks never stopped reading Greek, nor Greek philosophy.
Ryan Bailey I suspect that 1,100 years ago, when Baghdad acquired that status, Constantinople was steadily in the hands of Byzantine empire, and so was Greece. Furthermore, the majority of scholars, poets and scientists in the Caliphate were Persians like Al-Khwarezmi and many others, not Arabs. A bit like in ancient Rome, where the military power was Roman, but philosophy and culture were essentially Greek. Pre-Islamic Persia was a civilization millennia before the Arabs came out of their peninsula and conquered the Middle East and beyond.
@@stefano_etrusco Thanks for the reply, Stefano, and the clarifications. I appreciate the read, and would be happy for you to point me in a direction that may shed further light on this point in history. Initially, I thought you were ascribing to the common notion of the many innovations of Islam, most of which were adapted from predecessors in eastern Christendom in particular, and the near east in general. It seems, though my knowledge is quite limited, that Islam established its civilization by utilizing advances of peoples' they conquered, which is common enough in history. I would be interested to hear your thoughts. A singular example I heard about, which showcased the transfer or spread of Byzantine learning into a broader context, was Hermann of Reichenau.
Good lecture, but you neglected to discuss the Sumerians, especially the Epic of Gilgamesh. That single work has had a profound impact on our concept of being human and what it means to face our mortality without narrative blinders.
I'm 50, a professional educator (math and physics) with 2 masters degrees, and know virtually none of this... why are we taught any of this in school or university??
Homer, Dante and Cervantes are the corner stones of Indo-European metaphysical literature and Indo-European civilization. Unless you have read all three you won't the roots of European thought.
@Kevin Alexanderman Western Civilization is a rhetorical propagandist name adopted mainly by the Anglo/French/Dutch nations against the rest of Europe. Known as the Black Legend. Later Germany and America would use the term Western Civilization and the Black Legend for their own ends. I was not talking about this propaganda. I was talking about European Civilization. Properly known today due to genetic anthropology and genetic archaeology as Indo-European Civilization.
@Kevin Alexanderman Genetic research has mapped out the whole of Homo Sapien history. Researchers such as genetic historians know exactly how we evolved, when we evolved and are evolving. We have very accurate genetic criteria and time lines for the races. We are one species but many races. It's called the genetic revolution and the train has already left the station.
@Kevin Alexanderman Post Modern Marxists don't believe in science and mathematics. Which is great because science and mathematics are not beliefs they are tools of humanity. Socialism along with its debased children Communism and National Socialism are political religions without God. What they can't believe in can't exist. This is why it's important to treasure art and sciences of all races.
@Kevin Alexanderman You do realise genetics as a dominant determinant in all biological kingdoms. It has been proofed as reality. You do understand what I am writing.
Not mentioned at all in this video: After the Royal Navy tried to take over the Caribbean fighting for three hundred years and the Viceroyalty of River Plate in 1806-07 without long-lasting success, in 1824 the liberators Simon Bolivar and Jose de San Martin (with the aid of some Scottish and Irish) balcanized the former Spanish America (Divide et Impera), erased the ethernal Golden New World nightmare of Queen Elisabeth I successors , curated the shock of the US loss, give gratis tons of gold to the City that rocketed to the stars the enthusiasm in Lombard Street and put in silver plate the entire subcontinent (like India) under a heavy British influence - with lots of migrants (really secrets agents of his majesty) , leonine loans, debts, investments, railroad construction, new harbors, social clubs, sports, quasi infinite mineral resources, free commerce, etc. - that it was in the British "informal empire". This was especially true in Argentina, Brazil (forever a British colony who speak Portuguese) , Uruguay, Peru, Bolivia, Colombia, Chile and Venezuela who practically gift the Essequibo golden territory to the Crown.
Thanks Victor, very interesting and thought provoking. We are the sum product of those who have gone before us. We owe it to them to understand what they discovered in all fields, for without their gains, we wouldn't be where we are today. Regards from Australia.
The first part of the video (from minutes 1-8) the revolution referred to is Indo-European. The west is not Judeo-Christian, it is very Indo-European. The middle part of the video on the Mediterranean triad is definitely a revolution even within the Indo-European world. The autonomous nature of city-states are what we should return to.
Victor Davis Hanson is always worth listening to. Never underestimate him. We desperately need this kind of education to come back to our schools. To all those who have been infected with Marxian theory in schools today: Pull your head out of Karl Marx's ass, take a few deep breaths, and start thinking for yourselves!
The main reason why the British were able to build their empire was thanks to the island. The Spanish empire, Napoleon, Prussia or the Nazis invaded almost all of continental Europe for 4 centuries. If the UK wasn't an island it would have been invaded in 4 weeks. Spain, for example, sent 10 large invasion fleets to England. After the battle of Sluys against the french fleet in 1340 the Royal Navy only appears in 1588 (with the help of storms) and in 1806 (French error and Nelson's victory at Trafalgar). 1377 (Castilian invasion of southern England), 1380-81 (Castilian invasion of southern England), 1411 ( Castilian invasion of Cornwall), 1554 (the Spanish fleet led by the Duke of Alba, arrives in England to crown Philip II as King of England and Ireland, marrying Mary Tudor, half-Spanish Queen of England and Ireland. If they had had a son... Invincible Spanish Armada of 1588 (mainly stopped by storm) In 1589, without storms, the Spanish fleet defeated Drake's invincible fleet, sinking 80 ships. Elisabeth sentenced Drake to be a lighthouse keeper. Second Invincible Armada Spanish, 1596 (more than 100 ships, stopped by a storm), Third Invincible Spanish Armada, 1597 (more than 130 ships and 12000 Spanish elite soldiers. Fleet stopped by a storm. One day of sun and... 1718 (Fourth large Spanish fleet to invade the British Isles (more than 20,000 soldiers to support the Scots. Fleet stopped by a storm) 1779-80, Spanish blockade of England, with the capture of two British fleets of 24 and 55 ships, which sank the London stock market and facilitated the independence of the United States. Spain gives the Spanish dollar to the United States. The real goal was to invade England, but the French allies were scared off. Except Venice Spain invaded all the capitals of Western Europe in the 16th-17th centuries: Rome, Paris, Lisbon, Cologne, Manheim, Augsburg, Aachen, Milan, Florence, Genoa, Amsterdam, Brussels... If England were not an island (and a stormy island ) the invasion would have occurred in 4 weeks, and the British empire would now be like the Dutch. It would also have taken Napoleon a month to invade England by land. ¡Panzer division! 4 weekends. After the Napoleonic wars that have devastated all of continental Europe, the British may become the first power. Not before. It is the same process as the Japanese. The Mongols invaded almost all of Eurasia, but they could not invade the small Japanese islands, mainly due to storms. That is why Japan was able to have stability and launch an attack and expansion in Asia in the 20th century. Besides, the British and Japanese have managed that advantage well, preventing the incursion of revolutionary agents that caused a lot of trouble in Europe, Asia and Latin America!!
If this city state system happened say in India, then the Indians would’ve introduced the so called western civilization? India, China and many other places in the world were indeed in this city state system, yet no such concepts were introduced. There must be another reason. Please continue investigating. Thanks so much.
It's a prerequisite for this to happen. It doesnt follow that with these conditions you would get that anywhere. India and China had and have very different mentality from westerners.
Great video! Thanks! I'd like to expand on your points put forward. A society can only succeed if people, as you say, are invested in it. The best way to get people to invest in their society is for the society to be something they love and agree with. This is why homogenous societies are most successful. Diversity is actually harmful to peace, personal investment, and flourishing.
In fact, we're working on that - there will be Greek subtitles coming soon... what language(s) would you like to see? Or just English? We should do that, too. thank you
@@tombrunila2695 ....Also, that book was based on a BBC mini-series, hosted by John Roberts (an Oxford don), from the mid-'80s. It's the kind of thing that will never be produced again by the BBC. Here's the link to an episode that has been uploaded to UA-cam: ua-cam.com/video/hYH5VbJIKk4/v-deo.html .
I guess Google (which owns of UA-cam) doesn't like any mention (or links to) Abe Books or Biblio(dodt)com; where I mentioned in a now-deleted comment that you can get the "Triumph of the West" book, and bypass supporting the now-woke Amazon monopoly.
The system we have today comes from the ancient Near East: writing, metallurgy, ceramic technology, textile production, domestication, record keeping, diplomacy and more. There would be no classical moment without this.
You're talking about mostly material things; it's the philosophical and literary traditions of the Greeks that are the true bedrock of Western Civilization.
You are so correct but why dont they teach the reality that ancient Kemet was a civilization that revived parts of Africa and had a huge impact upon the known world.
@@brianwhite4974 Who is the "they". What Universities teach depend on budgets, enrolments, skills of people hired. Also, whereas Greek & Latin have been continuously studied for 2000 years, Egyptian and Near Eastern languages weren't deciphered until the 19th century, so there's a lot of catch up going on.
One major detail he omits. Every household had on average 5 slaves. Aristotle himself owned 5. That is the most important reason. When you have slaves you have time to think about other things other than just getting bread on the table.
13:20-13:39 What is meant here? Was the ability, whom few possessed, to process food the “proverbial method of exploitation, oppression” in pre-Greek societies? Or is something else meant here?
Derrick Fenger, Before it became possible for ordinary people to process their own food, they were dependent on others. They would have to pay to have their grain ground, their olives pressed, and their grapes turned into wine. Once they could do that for themselves they became citizens instead of serfs.
John Locke “Life Liberty and Private Property”. Bishop Joseph Butler “it is okay to love yourself” (paraphrasing Jesus at Mark 12:28-34, and citing Leviticus 19:18) and Thomas Jefferson combined Locke and Butler as “Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.” We don’t own our labor (income tax on our wages), nor do we own our money (central banks) where currency is not stored labor, rather, banks can create it by fiat, and charge interest. Condemned by Jesus and Aristotle. We suffer similar issues the brothers Tiberius and Gaias Gracchus tried to remedy in pre-Civil War Rome, through land reform to save the middle class. These grandsons of the great General Scipio Africanus, were each beaten to death by mobs, likely funded by the Roman Senate.
The origin of Western Civilisation? In one word: LOGOS. LOGOS is an Ancient Greek, pre-Christian concept meaning order, structure, proportion, sense-making, as in sentences and paragraphs and texts that make sense. It's where the world "logic" comes from and all the "ologies" of academic study: pathology, psychology, sociology, anthropology, biology, etc. - all "making sense" of that subject. LOGOS has a metaphysical, ontological, aspect - that order to the universe behind the senses, behind sense perception, behind models, behind paradigms, behind religions, etc., giving them credence and value. It is there, always, and makes the universe trustable and understandable and predictable, thereby kicking off science. Universally repeatable science rather than random superstitions of a particular tribe. LOGOS determines if our ideas are good or bad, successful or unsuccessful, functional or dysfunctional. sustainable or short-lived, viable or not-viable, etc. It kind of plays the role that "environment" plays in Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Spontaneous Mutation and Natural Selection. It is the eternal selector to the "spontaneous mutation" of our ideas, crazy ideas or good-enough ideas or genius ideas. The earliest Christians picked up on this idea and identified the LOGOS with Jesus Christ and thus God, kind of. The Book of John opens with: "In the beginning was the LOGOS and the LOGOS was with God and the LOGOS was God." Powerful. The antithesis of LOGOS is chaos, that which doesn't make sense, that which doesn't work, that which breaks down. In the mayhem and rioting and arson on Antifa and BLM, in the evidence-less, statistics-less emotionality of SJW's, in leftist "cancel culture", we see chaos rearing its ugly head again. For a society to survive and prosper, for children to be safe, LOGOS must rule over chaos. Structure. A structured, clear-minded individual. Structure. The family structure of a father and a mother and children each fulfilling a complementary role. In social structure of law and order. LOGOS in the heavens. LOGOS in society. LOGOS in our heart. Cheers!
I don't think the lecture answers why these advances in agriculture took place in Greece and presumably no where else. The Bronze Age Collapse of Civilization left Greece in shambles but that was true for most of the Eastern Mediteranean and those same horrible conditions no doubt existed in most other places around the world as well. And for purposes of subsistence, were those three crops truly that special? Hanson is a very impressive guy, so I am sure there is a great deal of truth to what he is saying here, but there has to be a lot more to this story for this thesis about how Greek agriculture started Western Civilization to make sense.
All the gushing comments here. Hanson did give an outstanding presentation. But I would like to see some "sophisticated" debate of Hanson with Jared Taylor, and also with, from a very different direction, Kenneth Harl, whom if I remember correctly, disagreed with Hanson's characterization of the Spartan's domination of the Hellenes. "Sophisticated" debate probably means, maybe x minute back and forth video responses, or x maximum length back and forth written responses.
There was a lively debate right here in the comments section, but ChinaTube deleted all the comments. I know because I was a big contributor. One of the themes discussed was about disagreeing with Mr. Hanson's thesis that Western Civilization benefited from the influence of Judeo Christian values because Christianity fulfilled a lacking in Western culture. Some, including myself disagreed with this assertion. One poster claimed that Western Civilization didn't need Christianity because it had its own identity before Christianity arose. I also commented that I thought it was more likely that Christianity forced itself onto Western civilization and that Western civilization didn't adopt it but rather westernized it to make it compatible with its already well established and successful cultural identity. As evidence of this I referred to the Christian Reformation. I could say a lot more, but I don't think it is really worth it anymore under ChinaTube's censorship.
I think a key that’s overlooked is Christianity gave equal importance to the physical and spiritual It’s rejection of religions that rejected matter in favor of one that early creeds emphasized that Christ came in the body and yet was God enabled a formalized scientific method .
At the age of 10, I lived in the southern Peloponnese city of Kalamata, and survived the German occupation by the ancient practices described here. My father was a textile engineer whose high paying job came to a sudden end with the Hitler invasion of Greece. Fortunately, my father still owned his inheritance on a mountainside village some 20 miles from the city. The family left the luxurious house in the city, and moved to a small village farmhouse unreachable by modern vehicles, and relatively free from the German occupation.
My father's inheritance consisted of lands that had been farmed for centuries for olives, grain, and grapes. He quickly revived the old practices, as described by VDH, to produce enough food for us and many who had no land.
I can tell you that the ancient life as described by VDH is very accurate because I lived it for 4 years to survive and be here today.
Thank you for your story. Hope you're well.
Thanks for sharing
I would like to applaud the courage, strength and endurance of your family, for their valiant actions clearly demonstrate the remarkable achievements of your magnificent, ancient ancestors, whose undertakings clearly represent the crux of the modern Western culture and society. As such, I hope you do not object to my statement, claiming that each one of us, citizens of the modern Western World, are proudly their socio-political descendants.
What a brave, wonderful man your father was. Thank you for sharing such inspirational messages.
Incredible story. Feel free to elaborate further as you have open ears among you
This has 17 THOUSAND views in FIVE MONTHS
meanwhile, carbi b’s WAP has 172 MILLION views in ONE month.
helps one to understand the social condition that we’re in right now.
Sex sells
Until reading your comment I haven't even heard of Cardi B. So I searched her and watched one of her videos. Gosh... I wish I could unsee that horrible video. Yes, it's pop culture, but Frank Sinatra and Nat Cole were also pop culture (way before my time, but I enjoy it). Pop culture is entertainment for people, but the general culture level of the people is going downhill.
Exactly. Can't reach and teach zoo animals
The decline of Western civilization
Cardi is in Darkness, like much of the world.
Now is the time of #thegreatawakening
VDH is a national treasure if only the masses would recognize him and learn from him what a great country we would have.
The last sentences in this lecture are so scary in a late 2020 context.
We have a great country, but I agree with your suggesting it needs improvement. In fact, I believe we need a revival of traditional values and massive school curriculum reform.
"If America is to be spared and to avoid the horrors of a dying nation, we must rediscover what it means to love God and one another." --Billy Graham, Sept. '96 Newsletter, B.G.E.A., of the Billy Graham Crusades.
Like many intelligent people he lacks the charisma of a demagogue
Junior von Claire - but that’s where the problem lies.
Excellent video, this should be in all schools. Instead they teach students how to hate western culture, and themselves.
"Those who live and hate shall redeem their souls too late." --Savage Grace, Warner Brothers recording artists, out of the Detroit/Ann Arbor, Michigan area, late '60's early '70's time period.
Not if evil Oprah & the NY Slimes have their way, which is to push the pernicious & false 1619 project on our school children.
You see they don't hate West but they also love east. Science and complex math without hindu-arabic numerals and zero is impossible and without science there is no computer.
@@Abhishek-sr2pu lova hindu pathageris studyed there.
@@Abhishek-sr2pu they hate west they see west as evil civilization who likes to destroy others
How wonderful that I can go back and learn what my state run university failed to teach, and for free! Dr. Hanson is a Godsend.
Try and go through an entire economics degree AND get an MBA and see if they teach you what the Federal Reserve is.
Every time I listen to VDH, I feel like I have so much to learn. Specifically, the culture that I live in: Western Civilization. Love me some learnin'.
I feel the same way 👍
Sadly, there was a time when this information was considered a fundamental part of a basic education. And it wasn't even that long ago. A century maybe.
Check out Ricardo Duchesne
The West doesn't exist anymore: Western blood is disappearing, its musical tradition is also dying, and the same can be said of most of what is Western.
Finally...a gift. The origin of our Western Civilization. All who haven't studied this should turn to it (especially our youth). The unique cure to the destruction of all that we hold dear. Many thanks to Dr Hanson and to the American Freedom Alliance.
Victor Davis Hanson is always brilliant. One heck of a teacher and lecturer.
What!? People are still allowed to speak of Western Civilization in a positive way?
Darrell Hamner ..Enjoy it while it lasts before the looney liberals see it.
SK Bob ..You’re quite correct, but do you realise that those same principles were championed by Countries & Empires who colonised, enslaved & raped the World of its riches. That’s why I call it looney liberalism. The ones who are trying to bring down Western civilisation & it’s virtues are the same ones who have benefited-from its principles. I agree though, liberal in the real sense shouldn’t be used when describing these people.
Ferazhin Lexico where is your evidence for all your wild claims? You say Islam “consistently” uses the left to take over nations, where and when has that happened?
I love listening to you I have 11 grade education if there were more professors like I might have made it to college ur awsome 👌
you can still learn as much as you want.
You do not need a piece of paper to be educated
History will look back fondly on this man.
I like this man. Very analytical and precise. Men like this is what we should hold dear in a society.
Dr. Hansen is able to capture and keep my attention like none of my professors in College. He is America's professor. He brings a unique perspective having grown up live and produce on a farm of his own his family's 5 Generations back in California San Joaquin Valley incidentally where Devin Nunez is a representative in Congress I find that fascinating it begs the question is there a concentration of patriotic intelligence in California in the San Joaquin Valley
He nailed it. The comments at the end were very applicable to current events
I wish I can smoke a cigar and drink a glass of bourbon with Dr. Hanson and just listen to his immense knowledge of history.
VDH is truly an amazing scholar I wish the rest of academia were like him.
Thank the Lord for VDH. He is what a learned professor is supposed to be like. It’s too bad we don’t have more of them and there’s so many of them have shipwrecked their intelligence by going to the left. VDH is another reason why I can proudly say 1953 was a great year since he and I share that same year of birth. I like that VDH is very reasoned and measured and calm supporting what he teaches with good sound evidence and history.
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Thank you for this. Its really interesting! And the way you describe it makes me feel transported back to those sunny fields of wheat, barley, olives and grapes, where an ancient Greek is surveying his land, and figuring out what to do next.
So true.And the spirit of all this is still in Greece.Because of that there is not Europan Union without of greece.In 2007 ,the time of crisis I spent my vacation in Greece.(as always).And some of greece people talking about leaving the EU.Some of them afraid to be expelled from EU.Sitting and talking in taverna at night ,eating simple fresh food(like 1000 ears ago)and drinking homemade wine ,even then I thout .There is no EU without Greece.Never.Like there is no tree without roots.And I miss my cancelled vacation in Crete.Eating olives and making salad with olive oil ,sent to me from Crete.And waiting to go to Athens again.Thank You for all good lectures.Waiiting for more
no europe won't miss greece one bit. the only reason they holding them in is so the greeks pay off their debts. the greek economy is miniscule and irrelevant really to europe
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@Πολεμάω Ελεύθερος I'd take that. The former "barbarians" now own you
Not only is the information fluid and interesting, the visual slideshow of art and architecture are really impressive.
I call it the European Civilization" because everything started in Europe. That is what I learned in school, born in Europe I am proud of all the Europeans accomplished through the centuries and brought it to other countries all over the World.
The West started in ancient Greece, not Europe. The geographical start of the West's universal civilization is irrelevant.
@Bashar Kwaik Your individual claims are true but are you also claiming a principle?
@Bashar Kwaik Your individual claims are true but are you trying to claim a principle?
When i listen to this excellent video, I realise that our society has deteriorated so much, i am beginning to think that it is irreversible.
An incredible video. When he’s spot on, which is almost always, there is no better lecturer than VDH. There’s one sentence I have an issue with: “it’s not that one group of people were inherently smarter than another”; but it did not detract or diminish the quality of this presentation, and doesn’t contradict my opinion that this was a spot on video. Even Einstein wasn’t always “exactly correct”.
Clear thorough and always engaging.Yes more than ever it is important to understand the roots of Western civilisation.Now under grave threat.
If only people skipped one night of CNN and watched this video instead what a turnaround there would be!
What are you implying? That one must be a modern American conservative in order to appreciate learning history and sociology?
@@tonyoB No, 4,000 years of western civilizations contribution to humanity is being demonized by CNN.
Trollol Police lol says "trollol police". Ironic
mike a I really don't see how opposition of the confederacy equates with opposition to Western Civilization - or how it even relates at all.
But, since it was mentioned, wasn't it the confederacy that wanted to protect the institution of slavery? But to memorialize it via glorious monuments of its defenders must therefore be an act of racial tolerance.
Yeah but most people are stupid.
Such interesting information. Timely as well.
I would love to see him as a teacher for Greater Courses.
Another riveting experience in learning. Started a Western Civ course at Hillsdale. So busy had to put it on hold. This is a great substitute initially, easy to listen to while working on simple chores, though I will listen again and take notes on a later date with more time.
Whoever did the screen shots did a great job, very helpful. I've listened to many lectures from Victor where the screen shots would have been very helpful to a working class guy like me. Realize more educated folks might not need them.
Thanks to Prof Hansen and AFA, much appreciated.
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Informative, meaningful, edifying , profound! History at it's best is visionary! And the vision presented here of the past and hopefully the future is compelling. A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.
Wow so much knowledge packed into this lecture! Thank you I can wait to watch the rest of the series.
College graduate 🎓 in classical history. As a youngster I always was involved in ancient history of Greece and Rome. In the navy I spent 3 years in Greece. Love the country and its ppl back in 70s.
Outstanding educational video! It clearly, easily illustrates the very fundamental tenets which constitutes the origins of our Western Civilization. As such, I would like to congratulate Mr. Victor Davis Hanson; thanks for this excellent upload! (subscribed)
This information in combination with Rodney Stark's "Victory of Reason" is invaluable for understanding history and who we are today.
THANK YOU Mr. HANSON, EXELAND..! !
He is always a pleasure to listen to.
Also lemons, figs, many vegetables with Horta--a kind of wild spinach--snails, onions, wild growing herbs, fish and animals et al.
The question is how do we return the logical disinterest education back into the academy? In this Neo Dark Age Prof VDH, Freedom Alliance and Hillsdale are beacons in the looming darkness.
One hint is the fact that Hillsdale College is one of only a handful of colleges in this country which do NOT take any government-backed student loan money or other government grants. When an institution takes this money, it must comply with the federal bureaucracy's quirky interpretation of various "anti-discrimination" laws passed from 1972 onward (including the notorious Title IX).
If an institution is to retain its freedom to teach, to hire faculty based on actual competence, etc., it must bite the bullet and reject federal funding (including federally-back student loans). Hillsdale College made this conscious decision back in the 1980s.
random little side note: I appreciate VDH sticking to "BC/AD"
Extremely interesting!
my teacher make me watch this and take notes
same
Do you go to DVHS?
You have a good teacher! Knowing history puts all of life in context! 🤗
LUCKY YOU to have such an enlightened teacher.
BingBangBrine good for them!
Great lecture. Well done.
Please allow/make available Closed Captions. 🙏
Excellent. Thank you Victor.
V.D.Hanson knows from first hand what he's talking about. He grew up on a farm and still farms the land there in CA.
22:18 onwards the lecture becomes really dark, scary and accurate for our times.
I very much enjoyed this video!
Interesting presentation
Simply Wonderful
VDH is truly an important man.
I must find out how good they were at food storage. Thats an edge to have over the opposition isn't it?
I've learned so much from VDH he is my professor.
We should give tks and be proud of western civilization. Like no other.
There should be in u.s. a month dedicated to the culture of western civilization.
Fascinating and to the point
One thing you didn't seem to take into consideration Dr. Hanson is free movement within the city states. I am thinking that sophists, philosophers, historians, geographers etc. were able to move about the Greek world, thanks to the city state and the shipping (travel) routes. That spread new ideas like never before AND the free time that many of the upper class Greek citizens found available made dissemination of these idea take place even faster.
The advance of civilization is really about the advance of ideas, technology, religion etc. There was no people in the time period you discuss that were like the Greeks in hearing new ideas as well as looking for new ideas. Although Pericles may have been responsible for precipitating the Peloponessian War he was right about one thing: Athens was the school of Greece.
Athens had become a focal point for artists and scholars since the end of the Persian War but had also been a focal point for those with arts, beliefs and skills for a long time before that. The previous 'school of Hellas' were the Greeks from Asia minor who came to Athens to enrich it culturally and socially. It seems even Pericles' paramour was from Ionia but came to Athens to run a 'salon' similar to the salons in France during the Enlightenment. So Athens was also the 'student of Hellas'.
We all have so much to learn. How many members of Congress in the US have watched these videos. Probably none.
Since I came home from the military service I haven't heard one good word about West. Civ. But I live in Chicago.
Old collapse @4:36, Egypt @2:30 and @6:40, City-State and Agriculture @8:08
"The Ecstasy of Carbon" describes the world after Empire and much of Western Civilization collapse in a cacophony of Identity Politics, polarization and fractious subdivisions. It is a story informed by an Anthropological Futurism that is described from the point of view of the survivors that delves into a rarely imagined possible outcome of our current political climate of tribalism and divisiveness. It is a book that builds upon its precursor from 2010 entitled "Fixed Stars Rise," one of the first books to predict the collapse of Empire and the rise of Gay Elitism with its awareness of the unique evolutionary characteristics and trajectory of the gay male form as that most ideally suited to hybridize with increasingly complex AI who have no need or desire to perpetuate what will soon be the superfluous act of biological procreation with its inherent costs and conflicts, especially with what is feared to be a loss of rationality and personal freedom in a hyper-feminist world. Everything is again open for discussion in this existential moment where the most fit of the fittest must be chosen for hybridization... It probes the riddle of why male homosexuality has continued to arise in the random distribution of human evolution. Concomitantly, it ponders what the role of women and femininity would be in this future society of gay man/machine hybrids who will have no use for procreation. It discusses the evolution of concepts and ideas, especially in accordance with technological developments. It is here where is discussed the gradual and then meteoric ascension of Porno for this new race and this new world, whereby only with the hindsight afforded by these technological innovations can it be perceived to encompass the gist of the deepest ontological meaning in existence, embodying the most vital workings of the energies of chemical reactions in their purest and most unifying forms, revered among the scholarly disciplines. It explores what is unique in the physical and cultural evolutionary history of Western Europeans, particularly Northern Europeans, which affords many of them a capacity---sometimes even a predilection---to feel ashamed and guilty and angry at the historical success of their heritage. It is the proclivity for The Bleeding Heart, which dissipates in the populations of Eastern Europe and Southern Europe and is rarely, if ever, found in the rest of the world's populations. Finally, it discusses the resolution of one of the most profound physical and conceptual dichotomies inherited from the human evolutionary path: the conflict between individualism, which is associated with the European trajectory, and that of collectivism, which is associated with the East Asian trajectory. "The Ecstasy of Carbon" is available now on Amazon in both the hardback and kindle version.
Amazing, l , I love VDH political viewpoints and ...I was just watching Scruton and beauty ...and.. this just pops up . Perfect.
Outstanding
Great video.
WOW great lecture. Thank you very much
Another use for olive oil and grapes is in treating skin infections, especially cuts, due to war or accidents. First step was to squeeze grape juice on the wound, then pour olive oil on it . The sugar from the grape kills any bacteria and the oil also has longer term antibiotic properties (olive leaf extract).
sounds like nonsense. the sugar is very diluted to have any effect - quite the opposite it in fact.
Well produced. Except the music was slow to fade out at the beginning causing me panic. "Oh, no. Another editor who doesn't know what appropriate background music volumes should be."
Excellent presentation.
So interesting!Love this stuff!If we don't know our passed how can we know what will happen in the future!
The most important part starts at about 21:00.
Western civilization milestones in a nutshell:
- Ancient Greece
- Roman Empire
- Renaisssance
- Reformation
- Enlightenment
- Industrial revolution
There is a missing link, though. During Europe's dark ages, the torchbearers of philosophy and science became Arab and Persians. When Baghdad was the cultural center for half of the world, around 1,000 years ago, they reunited and developed ancient knowledge from Greek philosophers, Indian mathematicians and many other sources, laying down the basis for modern algebra (al-Jabra) and calculus. They brough these new conceots to Europe (what we call Arabic numerals were in fact Indian, plus the concept of zero that was the true revolution brought by Arabs). One of the most famous was Al-Khwarezmi (guess where the word "algorithm" comes from).
During the 13th century, a cultural shift in Islamic doctrine and also Mongol invasions shut down that beacon of light, bringing the epicenter of scientific and cultural activity back to Europe, and posing the foundation for the era of Atlantic Empires, Renaissance and so on.
How did Baghdad become the cultural center? How did they learn Greek and acquire these developments, including architecture such as the dome? They conquered eastern Christians, and implemented the basis of civilization they already had. The Bedouins did not nurture these things in a vacuum. Nonetheless, these things are never mentioned. The Greeks never stopped reading Greek, nor Greek philosophy.
Ryan Bailey I suspect that 1,100 years ago, when Baghdad acquired that status, Constantinople was steadily in the hands of Byzantine empire, and so was Greece. Furthermore, the majority of scholars, poets and scientists in the Caliphate were Persians like Al-Khwarezmi and many others, not Arabs. A bit like in ancient Rome, where the military power was Roman, but philosophy and culture were essentially Greek. Pre-Islamic Persia was a civilization millennia before the Arabs came out of their peninsula and conquered the Middle East and beyond.
@@stefano_etrusco Thanks for the reply, Stefano, and the clarifications. I appreciate the read, and would be happy for you to point me in a direction that may shed further light on this point in history. Initially, I thought you were ascribing to the common notion of the many innovations of Islam, most of which were adapted from predecessors in eastern Christendom in particular, and the near east in general. It seems, though my knowledge is quite limited, that Islam established its civilization by utilizing advances of peoples' they conquered, which is common enough in history. I would be interested to hear your thoughts.
A singular example I heard about, which showcased the transfer or spread of Byzantine learning into a broader context, was Hermann of Reichenau.
Good lecture, but you neglected to discuss the Sumerians, especially the Epic of Gilgamesh. That single work has had a profound impact on our concept of being human and what it means to face our mortality without narrative blinders.
The epic of Gilgamesh was not well known in the west
I'm 50, a professional educator (math and physics) with 2 masters degrees, and know virtually none of this... why are we taught any of this in school or university??
If only people had a greater knowledge of our history. Public schools have failed us.
VDH is a national treasure.
Where is video #2?
Rare has been the equal to Homer. Our best novelists--even Shakespeare--are competitively challenged by his achievement in 700BC.
Homer, Dante and Cervantes are the corner stones of Indo-European metaphysical literature and Indo-European civilization.
Unless you have read all three you won't the roots of European thought.
@Kevin Alexanderman Western Civilization is a rhetorical propagandist name adopted mainly by the Anglo/French/Dutch nations against the rest of Europe. Known as the Black Legend.
Later Germany and America would use the term Western Civilization and the Black Legend for their own ends.
I was not talking about this propaganda.
I was talking about European Civilization.
Properly known today due to genetic anthropology and genetic archaeology as Indo-European Civilization.
@Kevin Alexanderman Genetic research has mapped out the whole of Homo Sapien history. Researchers such as genetic historians know exactly how we evolved, when we evolved and are evolving. We have very accurate genetic criteria and time lines for the races.
We are one species but many races.
It's called the genetic revolution and the train has already left the station.
@Kevin Alexanderman Post Modern Marxists don't believe in science and mathematics. Which is great because science and mathematics are not beliefs they are tools of humanity.
Socialism along with its debased children Communism and National Socialism are political religions without God.
What they can't believe in can't exist.
This is why it's important to treasure art and sciences of all races.
@Kevin Alexanderman You do realise genetics as a dominant determinant in all biological kingdoms.
It has been proofed as reality.
You do understand what I am writing.
Not mentioned at all in this video: After the Royal Navy tried to take over the Caribbean fighting for three hundred years and the Viceroyalty of River Plate in 1806-07 without long-lasting success, in 1824 the liberators Simon Bolivar and Jose de San Martin (with the aid of some Scottish and Irish) balcanized the former Spanish America (Divide et Impera), erased the ethernal Golden New World nightmare of Queen Elisabeth I successors , curated the shock of the US loss, give gratis tons of gold to the City that rocketed to the stars the enthusiasm in Lombard Street and put in silver plate the entire subcontinent (like India) under a heavy British influence - with lots of migrants (really secrets agents of his majesty) , leonine loans, debts, investments, railroad construction, new harbors, social clubs, sports, quasi infinite mineral resources, free commerce, etc. - that it was in the British "informal empire". This was especially true in Argentina, Brazil (forever a British colony who speak Portuguese) , Uruguay, Peru, Bolivia, Colombia, Chile and Venezuela who practically gift the Essequibo golden territory to the Crown.
Thanks Victor, very interesting and thought provoking. We are the sum product of those who have gone before us. We owe it to them to understand what they discovered in all fields, for without their gains, we wouldn't be where we are today. Regards from Australia.
The first part of the video (from minutes 1-8) the revolution referred to is Indo-European. The west is not Judeo-Christian, it is very Indo-European.
The middle part of the video on the Mediterranean triad is definitely a revolution even within the Indo-European world.
The autonomous nature of city-states are what we should return to.
Victor Davis Hanson is always worth listening to. Never underestimate him. We desperately need this kind of education to come back to our schools. To all those who have been infected with Marxian theory in schools today: Pull your head out of Karl Marx's ass, take a few deep breaths, and start thinking for yourselves!
very good!well done from a greek!you got the spirit quite right!
The main reason why the British were able to build their empire was thanks to the island. The Spanish empire, Napoleon, Prussia or the Nazis invaded almost all of continental Europe for 4 centuries. If the UK wasn't an island it would have been invaded in 4 weeks. Spain, for example, sent 10 large invasion fleets to England. After the battle of Sluys against the french fleet in 1340 the Royal Navy only appears in 1588 (with the help of storms) and in 1806 (French error and Nelson's victory at Trafalgar). 1377 (Castilian invasion of southern England), 1380-81 (Castilian invasion of southern England), 1411 ( Castilian invasion of Cornwall), 1554 (the Spanish fleet led by the Duke of Alba, arrives in England to crown Philip II as King of England and Ireland, marrying Mary Tudor, half-Spanish Queen of England and Ireland. If they had had a son... Invincible Spanish Armada of 1588 (mainly stopped by storm) In 1589, without storms, the Spanish fleet defeated Drake's invincible fleet, sinking 80 ships. Elisabeth sentenced Drake to be a lighthouse keeper. Second Invincible Armada Spanish, 1596 (more than 100 ships, stopped by a storm), Third Invincible Spanish Armada, 1597 (more than 130 ships and 12000 Spanish elite soldiers. Fleet stopped by a storm. One day of sun and... 1718 (Fourth large Spanish fleet to invade the British Isles (more than 20,000 soldiers to support the Scots. Fleet stopped by a storm) 1779-80, Spanish blockade of England, with the capture of two British fleets of 24 and 55 ships, which sank the London stock market and facilitated the independence of the United States. Spain gives the Spanish dollar to the United States. The real goal was to invade England, but the French allies were scared off.
Except Venice Spain invaded all the capitals of Western Europe in the 16th-17th centuries: Rome, Paris, Lisbon, Cologne, Manheim, Augsburg, Aachen, Milan, Florence, Genoa, Amsterdam, Brussels... If England were not an island (and a stormy island ) the invasion would have occurred in 4 weeks, and the British empire would now be like the Dutch. It would also have taken Napoleon a month to invade England by land. ¡Panzer division! 4 weekends. After the Napoleonic wars that have devastated all of continental Europe, the British may become the first power. Not before. It is the same process as the Japanese. The Mongols invaded almost all of Eurasia, but they could not invade the small Japanese islands, mainly due to storms. That is why Japan was able to have stability and launch an attack and expansion in Asia in the 20th century. Besides, the British and Japanese have managed that advantage well, preventing the incursion of revolutionary agents that caused a lot of trouble in Europe, Asia and Latin America!!
fascinating
Recent narratives of the US say Jefferson's Yeoman Farmer "never existed".
If this city state system happened say in India, then the Indians would’ve introduced the so called western civilization? India, China and many other places in the world were indeed in this city state system, yet no such concepts were introduced. There must be another reason. Please continue investigating. Thanks so much.
i think his point was the formation of a middle class and the elimination of central despotic authority.
@@zarni000 what's a central despotic authority?
Also, middle classes existed all over the world, not just in Greece.
There must be another reason!
@@oghazal they were most well off at the time. Climate favored it.
It's a prerequisite for this to happen. It doesnt follow that with these conditions you would get that anywhere. India and China had and have very different mentality from westerners.
Great video! Thanks! I'd like to expand on your points put forward. A society can only succeed if people, as you say, are invested in it. The best way to get people to invest in their society is for the society to be something they love and agree with. This is why homogenous societies are most successful. Diversity is actually harmful to peace, personal investment, and flourishing.
I'm a 51 year old man and want I'd like to know if VDH will adopt me.
why no subtitles? What a shame.
In fact, we're working on that - there will be Greek subtitles coming soon... what language(s) would you like to see? Or just English? We should do that, too. thank you
Where are all my senior fellows at?!?!?
Any book recommendations? On this subject? Thanks
www.bibotu.com/books/2012/Th%20e%20Uniqueness%20of%20Western%20Civilization.pdf
www.amazon.com/Triumph-West-Origin-Western-Civilization/dp/B0007OB4M2/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=the+triumph+of+the+west&qid=1601567719&s=books&sr=1-3
@@tombrunila2695 ....Also, that book was based on a BBC mini-series, hosted by John Roberts (an Oxford don), from the mid-'80s. It's the kind of thing that will never be produced again by the BBC. Here's the link to an episode that has been uploaded to UA-cam: ua-cam.com/video/hYH5VbJIKk4/v-deo.html .
@@MrJm323 all episodes can be found on UA-cam. I have them on VHS recorded in 1988, the tapes may be not so good today because of their age.
I guess Google (which owns of UA-cam) doesn't like any mention (or links to) Abe Books or Biblio(dodt)com; where I mentioned in a now-deleted comment that you can get the "Triumph of the West" book, and bypass supporting the now-woke Amazon monopoly.
My Ancestors ....we have a beautifully sounding word.....we say......ZOUN !
The system we have today comes from the ancient Near East: writing, metallurgy, ceramic technology, textile production, domestication, record keeping, diplomacy and more. There would be no classical moment without this.
You're talking about mostly material things; it's the philosophical and literary traditions of the Greeks that are the true bedrock of Western Civilization.
You are so correct but why dont they teach the reality that ancient Kemet was a civilization that revived parts of Africa and had a huge impact upon the known world.
@@brianwhite4974 Who is the "they". What Universities teach depend on budgets, enrolments, skills of people hired. Also, whereas Greek & Latin have been continuously studied for 2000 years, Egyptian and Near Eastern languages weren't deciphered until the 19th century, so there's a lot of catch up going on.
One major detail he omits. Every household had on average 5 slaves. Aristotle himself owned 5.
That is the most important reason. When you have slaves you have time to think about other things other than just getting bread on the table.
@Stephen Castelli aha I see. You are a genius....
@Stephen Castelli idiots would misconstrue sarcasm like that
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13:20-13:39
What is meant here? Was the ability, whom few possessed, to process food the “proverbial method of exploitation, oppression” in pre-Greek societies? Or is something else meant here?
Derrick Fenger, Before it became possible for ordinary people to process their own food, they were dependent on others. They would have to pay to have their grain ground, their olives pressed, and their grapes turned into wine. Once they could do that for themselves they became citizens instead of serfs.
Sloth Bear thank you!
Alexander and Phillip took it to the next level ,the Romans and Byzantines too
John Locke “Life Liberty and Private Property”. Bishop Joseph Butler “it is okay to love yourself” (paraphrasing Jesus at Mark 12:28-34, and citing Leviticus 19:18) and Thomas Jefferson combined Locke and Butler as “Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.” We don’t own our labor (income tax on our wages), nor do we own our money (central banks) where currency is not stored labor, rather, banks can create it by fiat, and charge interest. Condemned by Jesus and Aristotle. We suffer similar issues the brothers Tiberius and Gaias Gracchus tried to remedy in pre-Civil War Rome, through land reform to save the middle class. These grandsons of the great General Scipio Africanus, were each beaten to death by mobs, likely funded by the Roman Senate.
The origin of Western Civilisation? In one word: LOGOS. LOGOS is an Ancient Greek, pre-Christian concept meaning order, structure, proportion, sense-making, as in sentences and paragraphs and texts that make sense.
It's where the world "logic" comes from and all the "ologies" of academic study: pathology, psychology, sociology, anthropology, biology, etc. - all "making sense" of that subject.
LOGOS has a metaphysical, ontological, aspect - that order to the universe behind the senses, behind sense perception, behind models, behind paradigms, behind religions, etc., giving them credence and value. It is there, always, and makes the universe trustable and understandable and predictable, thereby kicking off science. Universally repeatable science rather than random superstitions of a particular tribe.
LOGOS determines if our ideas are good or bad, successful or unsuccessful, functional or dysfunctional. sustainable or short-lived, viable or not-viable, etc. It kind of plays the role that "environment" plays in Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Spontaneous Mutation and Natural Selection. It is the eternal selector to the "spontaneous mutation" of our ideas, crazy ideas or good-enough ideas or genius ideas.
The earliest Christians picked up on this idea and identified the LOGOS with Jesus Christ and thus God, kind of. The Book of John opens with: "In the beginning was the LOGOS and the LOGOS was with God and the LOGOS was God." Powerful.
The antithesis of LOGOS is chaos, that which doesn't make sense, that which doesn't work, that which breaks down. In the mayhem and rioting and arson on Antifa and BLM, in the evidence-less, statistics-less emotionality of SJW's, in leftist "cancel culture", we see chaos rearing its ugly head again.
For a society to survive and prosper, for children to be safe, LOGOS must rule over chaos. Structure. A structured, clear-minded individual. Structure. The family structure of a father and a mother and children each fulfilling a complementary role. In social structure of law and order.
LOGOS in the heavens. LOGOS in society. LOGOS in our heart.
Cheers!
Hurleys Hurls - And proud of it. Free your mind! Cosmic consciousness! Make love, not war! LOL.
Hurleys Hurls - You're choking in your barf? Better get some help. You poor thing.
Hurleys Hurls - Wow! You're still barfing! You heed help! Phone 911. They might be able to save you,
Is it me or is that thumbnail a bit raunchy?
I don't think the lecture answers why these advances in agriculture took place in Greece and presumably no where else. The Bronze Age Collapse of Civilization left Greece in shambles but that was true for most of the Eastern Mediteranean and those same horrible conditions no doubt existed in most other places around the world as well. And for purposes of subsistence, were those three crops truly that special? Hanson is a very impressive guy, so I am sure there is a great deal of truth to what he is saying here, but there has to be a lot more to this story for this thesis about how Greek agriculture started Western Civilization to make sense.
All the gushing comments here. Hanson did give an outstanding presentation.
But I would like to see some "sophisticated" debate of Hanson with Jared Taylor, and also with, from a very different direction, Kenneth Harl, whom if I remember correctly, disagreed with Hanson's characterization of the Spartan's domination of the Hellenes.
"Sophisticated" debate probably means, maybe x minute back and forth video responses, or x maximum length back and forth written responses.
There was a lively debate right here in the comments section, but ChinaTube deleted all the comments. I know because I was a big contributor. One of the themes discussed was about disagreeing with Mr. Hanson's thesis that Western Civilization benefited from the influence of Judeo Christian values because Christianity fulfilled a lacking in Western culture. Some, including myself disagreed with this assertion.
One poster claimed that Western Civilization didn't need Christianity because it had its own identity before Christianity arose. I also commented that I thought it was more likely that Christianity forced itself onto Western civilization and that Western civilization didn't adopt it but rather westernized it to make it compatible with its already well established and successful cultural identity. As evidence of this I referred to the Christian Reformation. I could say a lot more, but I don't think it is really worth it anymore under ChinaTube's censorship.
I think a key that’s overlooked is Christianity gave equal importance to the physical and spiritual
It’s rejection of religions that rejected matter in favor of one that early creeds emphasized that Christ came in the body and yet was God enabled
a formalized scientific method .
Can you restate logically?
I dont see my post. Restate what?
i'm descended partly from the greeks