With your property upgrades you should take note of the USGS wayback maps & possibly make something interesting in the design for those plane-taken eagle-view images of your farm. Your area has those triangle air bases & tons of car testing tracks, maybe the farm could have something but I'm no site-plan designer.
Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and........ok, we'll say it, wise. 😊 Good morning Duane and Lori. I always miss the Livestreams. 😊
have used your videos as a guideline for pruning and thinning with great success. our Florida Prince was very productive this year, and would have been more so with more aggressive culling. culling is a hard pill to swallow at first, because you always feel like you're not getting full potential, but the reality is that fruit needs room to grow. I thought I was aggressive enough, but turns out that I was not. next season will be even better.
It sounds like there are a few of us in the same boat. These are the largest (in tree size) we've allowed peaches to grow, so we were overly optimistic as to how much fruit it could handle!
I feel very similarly this year regarding thinning. I took off hundreds of small fruits and still got smaller fruit than usual and some broken branches. Still enough to freeze a bunch, but disappointed in my pruning and thinning efforts at my Glendale place.
Hi, Duane and Lori, George L here. Why is fruit size so important? Do large peaches taste better? I realize big is better on the supermarket shelves, but if you measure fruit yields in pounds rather than volume, is bigger better?
Great question and it's really a matter of fruit quality. The tree struggles with that much production and can only put so much growth (and flavor) into the fruit it's holding. We also wanted to start our U-pick this year, but the fruit size was just too small for us to be happy with. We want great tasting, quality fruit for our customers.😉
Money spending idea: I think you should purchase the largest galvanized carport-frame you can fit & cover it with galvanized cattle or horse-panels where you force vines to compete for the space. I'm slightly out of the hummingbird migration line but I still think I could attract 100 or so. I'm fighting Cardinal-climber & Cypress-vines this year. Pink cypress has bloomed first but the cardinal vines are longer, I imagine they act different when the first frost hits.
Hi guys. Thanks as always for your interesting videos. You’re the inspiration for my fruit tree orchard. I love my peaches! I have an established Florida Peach, a young Texas King, and a young Galaxy peach tree. I don’t see you mentioning the Galaxy in any of your podcasts. I think you’re missing the boat on this tree! I’m in Oro Valley just north of Tucson in zone 9B. We’re a degree or so hotter than Tucson and maybe 3-4 cooler than you-not much of a difference. My young Galaxy gave me about 15 peaches this season. They’re a late season (for us) variety and I’m just harvesting them now. Here’s my take. It’s based on a comparison with my FP tree. The Texas King is a year away from fruiting. I got all three from RSI so we’re assuming the same root stock. The Galaxy is a white-fleshed cling stone. It’s not as vigorous of a grower as the FP but it’s just as heavy a producer. It doesn’t handle the heat as well as the FP as its leaves tend to wilt in the 105+ temps but it survives and still holds its fruit. On the real hot days, I give mine an extra sip of water. The fuzz is a little bit less than the FP. It’s almost as juicy but not quite. BUT mine is noticeably sweeter and it’s confirmed by RSI’s Brix rating. The Galaxy is Brix 15 while the FP is 12. It’s an outstanding early to mid-summer peach for the Arizona desert. So, have I convinced you to give it a try? Do you want me to send you one to try out?
Hey there! We have not had a Galaxy peach before, but it does sound amazing. We don't plan on adding any additional peach trees as we've reached our capacity on that side of the farm. We're fans of a peach with a balance of tart and sweet. Would you say it fits that bill?
My first peaches to ripen this year are called Desert Gold. I just started getting a few this past week. I planted it last year but it didn’t produce till this year. They’re small, maybe the size of a racquetball, but tasty. My only complaint, if it’s really even a complaint, is that it seems to be a clingstone variety, but a very nice tasting early yellow peach.
We had a Desert Gold on the old property and I remember the fruit being on the small side. Smaller than the FlordaPrince at least and it's not known for it's size either.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm that’s a good piece of info, lol. I know it wasn’t because it set too much fruit because I didn’t even really need to thin that one. It’s not a huge tree yet so maybe the fruit will get a little bigger as it grows but at least it’s a tasty peach. I ate a couple more today, definitely worth keeping around, haha.
Howdy Folks!...."those pesky wabbits".....we have a huge pack rat causin probs.....I think it scares the cat....ate my first fig of 2024 today.....thx for the inspiration!
It was probably a combination of both. The FlordaPrince were the first to flower and got hit the hardest with frost and they were also one of the smallest. However, the Reid's Red was one of the last to flower and it was also one of the smallest.
It works as good as our gas powered unit. It takes a few rounds before it makes much of a dent and then you really can't get more than a few inches of soil turned, but for the cost and ease of use it's a handy tool.
The goats don't like the citrus leaves, otherwise that would be the right way to go! Citrus in general is not well tolerated by any of our animals, so we figure we can feed our hardest workers on the farm instead. All of those lovely microbes and fungi in our soil.
Not sure what you did with those guavas ever coming back, but my experience is sometimes when you cut a tree back (especially if it looks dead) it comes back hardier and tends to survive better. Perhaps a future experiment?
We were told the same thing, so I'm curious to see how it does. If we liked the fruit I would be more inclined to propagate from these roots to see how it does!
It put on a lot more flowers than we could harvest this season and eventually the flowers are so small when they're picking size it's really not worth it. The late frosts this year pushed the production back a few weeks, so I think that was the main culprit to the lack of size.
Do you guys ever get the stone fruit curculio ruining your fruit? This year in the humid south they ruined the plums and peaches. I'm not getting notifications for your videos anymore , you should probably check YT to see if the rhythms dropped any subs.
Ur guavas would need a microclimate to survive out there. You can always plant invasive nitrogen fixers that grow fast to create a barrier of protection.
One strategy that I’ve heard people using is a diversion crop … or bird seed… but not sure how well that works… another thing I’ve heard is to have multiple trees and allow them to grow tall and the birds can have the top fruit… but, again, not sure how well that would work either. Esp in a desert setting where there aren’t as many other options for birds. Assuming you are in a desert setting. There’s always a greenhouse… I always planned on building a grow house with quarter inch wire mesh to keep out most of the critters and I could cover that with aluminet in the summer… and fruit tree inside that structure would be kept small or espaliered.
Bird netting is the only viable way we've found to protect your peach harvest. Even with "sacrifice crops" adjacent to the peaches (mulberry), water aplenty, and food (we have bird feed everywhere with the livestock) they still devour everything eventually. We're the only game in town for them, so I can't really blame them. We are going to let these trees grow much taller, so we'll see if that helps.
Had a theory pertaining to the spread of stonefruit concerning animals such as bison and cows, other milk might do though. Turns out it seems I'm correct. Paenibacillus breaks down lignins (might help with your mulch pile also) so this should help with nutrient uptake, but I was wondering why many people's stone fruit had such poor germination rates, even after cold stratification, and this seems to hint at why. Do consider that life isn't as strong as it would be in other thriving ecosystems in nature, ones which didn't have an iodine deficiency due to hydroelectric monopolization. So be safe concerning the milk, but remember that there are natural mechanisms which are activated by choosing the correct foods, and some exudates will prompt microbes to break down certain minerals. (I'd likely have arugula and possibly slightly acidic plums before/with/after raw milk for a reason. 😉) Far as the soil nutrients go, if I had land where you are/possibly most places, I'd try to SAFELY dig until reaching the layer which was there prior to the iodine/other nutrient deficiencies. The top layers of caliche should probably be used for building (quicklime) anyway. "Georgia" clay red bricks in other areas and so on, seeing as kilns can be dug out in the ground and reach over 1200° in short time.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thank you, and feel free to ask if anything comes to mind, spreading truths seems to save us all from hardships ("takes a village" at any age, I think).
Perfect timing to see this video, thank you! My husband and I enjoy your positive videos. I pray for you and your family inin these difficult times.
Thank you SO much for those prayers. We can all use them in the days and times we find ourselves in.
Everything is so beautiful, including your family ❤
Ah, thank you. That is very kind.
You two work hard, and your farm shows it. Nice work!
Thank you!
My Florida prince peach was very small as well.
Despite thinning.
Part of it could be those late frosts this year, but that wasn't the cause on our Big Red, so not too sure.
I was really late to thin peaches too and they are not getting to size but hopefully will still sweeten up with less competition.
They should still sweeten up for you. These still had some good flavor, just nothing like what we're used to!
With your property upgrades you should take note of the USGS wayback maps & possibly make something interesting in the design for those plane-taken eagle-view images of your farm. Your area has those triangle air bases & tons of car testing tracks, maybe the farm could have something but I'm no site-plan designer.
That would be cool to design. Not much of an artist, but maybe something large scale like that would be easier.
Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and........ok, we'll say it, wise. 😊 Good morning Duane and Lori. I always miss the Livestreams. 😊
Early to bed and rise is definitely a farmer's life, that's for sure! What time is it over there when we're on for our livestreams?
have used your videos as a guideline for pruning and thinning with great success. our Florida Prince was very productive this year, and would have been more so with more aggressive culling. culling is a hard pill to swallow at first, because you always feel like you're not getting full potential, but the reality is that fruit needs room to grow. I thought I was aggressive enough, but turns out that I was not. next season will be even better.
It sounds like there are a few of us in the same boat. These are the largest (in tree size) we've allowed peaches to grow, so we were overly optimistic as to how much fruit it could handle!
Love learning from you guys!
Glad you're enjoying these. Vlogs are our favorite thing to produce, because we get to share updates on everything!
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I feel very similarly this year regarding thinning. I took off hundreds of small fruits and still got smaller fruit than usual and some broken branches. Still enough to freeze a bunch, but disappointed in my pruning and thinning efforts at my Glendale place.
Sounds like we're in the same boat. The late frosts definitely didn't help us, but the thinning (or lack thereof) was the main culprit I believe.
Hi, Duane and Lori, George L here. Why is fruit size so important? Do large peaches taste better? I realize big is better on the supermarket shelves, but if you measure fruit yields in pounds rather than volume, is bigger better?
More stones per pound of peaches, for one...
Great question and it's really a matter of fruit quality. The tree struggles with that much production and can only put so much growth (and flavor) into the fruit it's holding. We also wanted to start our U-pick this year, but the fruit size was just too small for us to be happy with. We want great tasting, quality fruit for our customers.😉
Ooh, UPick! Hoping for next year, then!
Money spending idea: I think you should purchase the largest galvanized carport-frame you can fit & cover it with galvanized cattle or horse-panels where you force vines to compete for the space. I'm slightly out of the hummingbird migration line but I still think I could attract 100 or so. I'm fighting Cardinal-climber & Cypress-vines this year. Pink cypress has bloomed first but the cardinal vines are longer, I imagine they act different when the first frost hits.
Hmm, now that would be interesting to see. Would love the shade it provides as well where we could have an understory growing underneath.
Excellent video. a lot to learn about Thinning peaches. Also found pictures of Figs, Jujube. Both of you are our mentors< MS lorry Work hard
Glad you caught that Jujube Abid!
We have about 6 different peach varieties and RBR is by far the best tasting, pure candy.
Is that short for Reid's Big Red?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Yes indeed! The fruit was delicious and just gorgeous flesh.
Hi guys. Thanks as always for your interesting videos. You’re the inspiration for my fruit tree orchard. I love my peaches! I have an established Florida Peach, a young Texas King, and a young Galaxy peach tree. I don’t see you mentioning the Galaxy in any of your podcasts. I think you’re missing the boat on this tree! I’m in Oro Valley just north of Tucson in zone 9B. We’re a degree or so hotter than Tucson and maybe 3-4 cooler than you-not much of a difference. My young Galaxy gave me about 15 peaches this season. They’re a late season (for us) variety and I’m just harvesting them now. Here’s my take. It’s based on a comparison with my FP tree. The Texas King is a year away from fruiting. I got all three from RSI so we’re assuming the same root stock. The Galaxy is a white-fleshed cling stone. It’s not as vigorous of a grower as the FP but it’s just as heavy a producer. It doesn’t handle the heat as well as the FP as its leaves tend to wilt in the 105+ temps but it survives and still holds its fruit. On the real hot days, I give mine an extra sip of water. The fuzz is a little bit less than the FP. It’s almost as juicy but not quite. BUT mine is noticeably sweeter and it’s confirmed by RSI’s Brix rating. The Galaxy is Brix 15 while the FP is 12. It’s an outstanding early to mid-summer peach for the Arizona desert. So, have I convinced you to give it a try? Do you want me to send you one to try out?
Hey there! We have not had a Galaxy peach before, but it does sound amazing. We don't plan on adding any additional peach trees as we've reached our capacity on that side of the farm. We're fans of a peach with a balance of tart and sweet. Would you say it fits that bill?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Mostly sweet. Having a peach tree like this is like having a pickup truck: you’re everybody’s friend. 😄
My first peaches to ripen this year are called Desert Gold. I just started getting a few this past week. I planted it last year but it didn’t produce till this year. They’re small, maybe the size of a racquetball, but tasty. My only complaint, if it’s really even a complaint, is that it seems to be a clingstone variety, but a very nice tasting early yellow peach.
We had a Desert Gold on the old property and I remember the fruit being on the small side. Smaller than the FlordaPrince at least and it's not known for it's size either.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm that’s a good piece of info, lol. I know it wasn’t because it set too much fruit because I didn’t even really need to thin that one. It’s not a huge tree yet so maybe the fruit will get a little bigger as it grows but at least it’s a tasty peach. I ate a couple more today, definitely worth keeping around, haha.
Howdy Folks!...."those pesky wabbits".....we have a huge pack rat causin probs.....I think it scares the cat....ate my first fig of 2024 today.....thx for the inspiration!
Congrats on that first fig Dan. Just the beginning of that season!
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It's funny, we have folks that like it and those that really don't like it. We try to change it every so often to keep things fresh.
My peaches were all small this year as well. Tasted great though. Could it have been the weather and not just the thinning?
It was probably a combination of both. The FlordaPrince were the first to flower and got hit the hardest with frost and they were also one of the smallest. However, the Reid's Red was one of the last to flower and it was also one of the smallest.
Is it hard to get a large amount of wood chips? I would think being in the desert that they would be hard to come by.
It can be difficult, but we're close enough to town that Chip Drop usually works for us.
Enjoy watching you videos. Completely off topic question I have seen you use the sunjoe cultivator how well does it work on our soil here in Wittmann
It works as good as our gas powered unit. It takes a few rounds before it makes much of a dent and then you really can't get more than a few inches of soil turned, but for the cost and ease of use it's a handy tool.
With the citrus branches, why not feed to the goats instead of chipping? Are there some trimmings you cannot feed to animals?
The goats don't like the citrus leaves, otherwise that would be the right way to go! Citrus in general is not well tolerated by any of our animals, so we figure we can feed our hardest workers on the farm instead. All of those lovely microbes and fungi in our soil.
Not sure what you did with those guavas ever coming back, but my experience is sometimes when you cut a tree back (especially if it looks dead) it comes back hardier and tends to survive better. Perhaps a future experiment?
We were told the same thing, so I'm curious to see how it does. If we liked the fruit I would be more inclined to propagate from these roots to see how it does!
Why did you let the artichoke flower like that?
Because they could...and no one can stop them!
It put on a lot more flowers than we could harvest this season and eventually the flowers are so small when they're picking size it's really not worth it. The late frosts this year pushed the production back a few weeks, so I think that was the main culprit to the lack of size.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm, got it. I love artichokes SO MUCH, when I saw you let them got to seed and flower, I thought...NOOOOO...WHY? LOL!
My peaches are smaller than a golf ball. 😢 I plan to prune next year 😅
Pruning and thinning are definitely going to be your friend as you're looking to increase the fruit size and flavor. 😉
@EdgeofNowhereFarm I'm hoping for a sweet normal size for next year. This year, I was fighting against 20 to 40 birds. I'm going to try the CD 💿 😅
maybe fruit production is perennial for abundance and size.....?
Quantity of fruit definitely varies from one season to the next, so that is part of what we were up against.
Do you guys ever get the stone fruit curculio ruining your fruit? This year in the humid south they ruined the plums and peaches.
I'm not getting notifications for your videos anymore , you should probably check YT to see if the rhythms dropped any subs.
I have not seen that issue here. I imagine our extremely dry weather keeps them at bay, but I wouldn't be able to say for certain.
Ur guavas would need a microclimate to survive out there. You can always plant invasive nitrogen fixers that grow fast to create a barrier of protection.
That is very true. We would need to cover them and add heat to get through our 20 degree Winters.
how do you keep the birds from eating the peaches, lost all of mine to birds even with a net
One strategy that I’ve heard people using is a diversion crop … or bird seed… but not sure how well that works… another thing I’ve heard is to have multiple trees and allow them to grow tall and the birds can have the top fruit… but, again, not sure how well that would work either. Esp in a desert setting where there aren’t as many other options for birds. Assuming you are in a desert setting. There’s always a greenhouse… I always planned on building a grow house with quarter inch wire mesh to keep out most of the critters and I could cover that with aluminet in the summer… and fruit tree inside that structure would be kept small or espaliered.
Bird netting is the only viable way we've found to protect your peach harvest. Even with "sacrifice crops" adjacent to the peaches (mulberry), water aplenty, and food (we have bird feed everywhere with the livestock) they still devour everything eventually. We're the only game in town for them, so I can't really blame them. We are going to let these trees grow much taller, so we'll see if that helps.
2:00 whats that purple fuzzy plant?
That is actually an artichoke flower. Pretty cool looking, huh?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm yeah
Had a theory pertaining to the spread of stonefruit concerning animals such as bison and cows, other milk might do though. Turns out it seems I'm correct. Paenibacillus breaks down lignins (might help with your mulch pile also) so this should help with nutrient uptake, but I was wondering why many people's stone fruit had such poor germination rates, even after cold stratification, and this seems to hint at why.
Do consider that life isn't as strong as it would be in other thriving ecosystems in nature, ones which didn't have an iodine deficiency due to hydroelectric monopolization. So be safe concerning the milk, but remember that there are natural mechanisms which are activated by choosing the correct foods, and some exudates will prompt microbes to break down certain minerals. (I'd likely have arugula and possibly slightly acidic plums before/with/after raw milk for a reason. 😉)
Far as the soil nutrients go, if I had land where you are/possibly most places, I'd try to SAFELY dig until reaching the layer which was there prior to the iodine/other nutrient deficiencies. The top layers of caliche should probably be used for building (quicklime) anyway. "Georgia" clay red bricks in other areas and so on, seeing as kilns can be dug out in the ground and reach over 1200° in short time.
Really good points here!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thank you, and feel free to ask if anything comes to mind, spreading truths seems to save us all from hardships ("takes a village" at any age, I think).
All the wildlife is out for sure! My dog Sasha has been going crazy, eating birds, and chasing rats.
Gotta love that kind of garden help!!
The invasion of the Guava :)
Exactly!