September 11th has been brought up as the real Birthday of Our Lord Jesus. Hence, all the shenanigans are happening on September 11th. Everyday is Christmas with Jesus. Viva Cristo Rey
If you notice, America tried to highjack Christmas with their Thanksgiving Day and their Santa Claus. Although both are hugely successful in America, the world has rejected them. December 25th is just too big (that's what she said) to highjack
A pagan holiday? Nonsense! For Orthodox Christians, It's the commemoration of the Incarnation, When God became Man, For Us There's Nothing " pagan" about God's Great and Infinite Love for Mankind!!
“The early Christians did not celebrate Jesus’ birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a PAGAN custom.” (The World Book Encyclopedia) The Encyclopedia Britannica says: “During the first two centuries of Christianity there was strong opposition to recognizing birthdays of martyrs, or for that matter, Jesus.” The book Sacred Origins of Profound Things states: “For two centuries after Christ’s birth, no one knew, and few people cared exactly when he was born.” Jesus was not born on December 25 and he told his disciples to remember his death, not his birth! “Pope Liberius [in the fourth century] decided to absorb PAGAN observances by declaring December 25 the official birthday of Jesus.” (NY Times)
You say that Julius Africanus "wanted to put together kind of a Christian calendar," that "he associated the equinox" with equal parts night and day because that's what God would do... as if we're reading mythologies here. As if he wasn't trying to document an actual history. As if it was just a perception that God would want things this way as opposed to that... unlike we moderns who know WAY better that God doesn't want us to know facts but rather just classify what we want to believe into sets of symbols that help us remember important truths... It's completely self-serving to your argument to insinuate that the historian wasn't trying to write actual, chronological history. Africanus says what he says, and we ought to leave it at that. His is the earliest patristic era source for Dec 25th. Period. (In addition, what non-catholic German scholars back in the 19th century or so had to say about biblical truth or Catholic family history or how we came to celebrate what we celebrate is irrelevant.)
We actually know the Temple order and can say when Zacharias turn was to calculate the following dates
The calendar details are interesting. Thank you for the video. However, the plural of ox in oxen.
September 11th has been brought up as the real Birthday of Our Lord Jesus.
Hence, all the shenanigans are happening on September 11th.
Everyday is Christmas with Jesus.
Viva Cristo Rey
If you notice, America tried to highjack Christmas with their Thanksgiving Day and their Santa Claus. Although both are hugely successful in America, the world has rejected them. December 25th is just too big (that's what she said) to highjack
The only things that are pagan holidays are (indigenous people day,pafic insider day, latinx day) those ones are pagan holidays
A pagan holiday?
Nonsense!
For Orthodox Christians, It's the commemoration of the Incarnation, When God became Man, For Us
There's Nothing " pagan" about God's Great and Infinite Love for Mankind!!
“The early Christians did not celebrate Jesus’ birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a PAGAN custom.” (The World Book Encyclopedia)
The Encyclopedia Britannica says: “During the first two centuries of Christianity there was strong opposition to recognizing birthdays of martyrs, or for that matter, Jesus.”
The book Sacred Origins of Profound Things states: “For two centuries after Christ’s birth, no one knew, and few people cared exactly when he was born.”
Jesus was not born on December 25 and he told his disciples to remember his death, not his birth! “Pope Liberius [in the fourth century] decided to absorb PAGAN observances by declaring December 25 the official birthday of Jesus.” (NY Times)
You say that Julius Africanus "wanted to put together kind of a Christian calendar," that "he associated the equinox" with equal parts night and day because that's what God would do... as if we're reading mythologies here.
As if he wasn't trying to document an actual history. As if it was just a perception that God would want things this way as opposed to that... unlike we moderns who know WAY better that God doesn't want us to know facts but rather just classify what we want to believe into sets of symbols that help us remember important truths...
It's completely self-serving to your argument to insinuate that the historian wasn't trying to write actual, chronological history. Africanus says what he says, and we ought to leave it at that. His is the earliest patristic era source for Dec 25th. Period.
(In addition, what non-catholic German scholars back in the 19th century or so had to say about biblical truth or Catholic family history or how we came to celebrate what we celebrate is irrelevant.)