I do not understand how anyone could hear this and not get it. It's so simple and makes so much sense at the same time. Life is only as complicated as we make it.
I love this man so much, He is a man with solutions where most men complain and criticize with no input toward solving the problems. This man has an extremely important ways in which the entire globe can be benefited and advocates no less than a brand new beginning . That we can use the highest wisdom to bring real and lasting peace and equality tor ALL. Yet we still have opposition to his ideas with accusations and ridicule by those who refuse to see, hear, or know TRUTH.
this man is a true intellectual and believe me when I tell you I want nothing more for myself to adopt his doctrine into my life and to start my own movement.
"dudeedud7" I haven't come across Jacque talking about building seven . It's one subject that i disagree with jacque on . I come from an aerospace engineering background and there are too many things that happened that day that do not add up . Building 7 and the BBC broadcasting its fall 20mins before it actually happened , are the two best examples.
@MsJony1234 Good question. The reason why the millionaire wants to be a billionaire is the environment of scarcity he/she is raised in. It is the training of competition, fear and greed he/she gets as growing up in the society. You'll have to think and reason a little bit deeper to understand this argument.
@StraightOuttaDC he is absolutely right. Our social system really needs to be torn apart and rebuilt from the ground up. Our current communication system is always up for interpretation, and because of that, we can't even interpret our holy texts anymore because they're always being rewritten. Not only that, but again, the language they were written in can be interpreted in many ways, making it even more difficult to find the ONE message in any sort of prophetic scripture. Peace out.
I think you are correct Igneous, the gene that carries curiousity is prominent , in animals also. I've noticed that the people who are not that keen on Jacque's fine words are people who think about what they may lose , as opposed to what you would gain with such a designed society . Jacques ideas are great and the Venus Project doesn't get the recognition it deserves . He is a fine man and an exceptional inventor.
This man speaks the truth and knows what to do, to make a better world for all, yet as long as we remain in our comfort state of watching tv and movies and eating tv dinners and watching monday night football with beer and chips and working mon to fri and weekends spent on going out and talking about the week and how it has been. AS long as the rulers of the world, Rothchilds, Rockeffellers, etc the scum remain, i dont see this godly mans vision come to light. Its a sad cold fact at the moment.
@anthonyu2: My post didn't show up, and was deleted so I will try again. Maslow's hierarchy of needs really rings true to me when attempting to understand human incentive when "money" is taken away or rendered meaningless. Maslow was an american psychologist who proposed that once a person has their physiological, safety, love/belonging needs met, the last two steps on his hierarchy are esteem and self-actualization.
@RandomVortex I believe that Mr. Fresco has clearly pointed out that most of the Humanitarian efforts are almost pointless, because we are not changing the SOURCE of the problem, which the source is the unsustainable, now unpractical monetary system. Yes, absolutely, the system Mr. Fresco suggests can only be done and can be started in Rural Areas, it has to be a grassroots movement. One of the biggest problems with human beings is that we grow too easily accustomed.....
you're right. I was just wondering. I've been listening to the podcasts form the zeitgeist movement website and peter cleared it up for me. Thanks everybody.
Mr Fresco, I know you are 95 years old, but if you are reading this, we are working on it, and hopefully in your lifetime you WILL see the start of a global resource based society. Some blood may be shed I apologize in advance for that. It is the only way. The establishment will fight with all its might but unification of the new will prevail towards a state-less world. Take care and stay safe.
I've only just started listening to some of what this man has to say and must admit I find it all truly fascinating. I am curious to know what he might have to say on the subject of Mental illness,Psychopathy and how he might suggest addressing such a problem. I would be very grateful to anybody who could direct me to anything online where he may deal with this kind of subject matter!
@RandomVortex 2# I think we agree that N&N works together and that both are essential as in who you turn out to be. My understanding of it is that we are born"clean/pure"(In a way that we havent been affected as much in a mental way yet) of course we are never totally pure, because we are affected by the envirement before we are born(the stomac and feelings of the mother is your envirement. It is like that from the second we are a cell to we die) early stages of nur* becomes later stg of nat*
@mytubebz How would you suggest anybody who wants to make the world a better place should go about it? One practical idea I can think of is simply doing humanitarian work of some kind but sadly even the best efforts can be ruined by War,Greed and power.(which are usually root causes of the problem in the first place. I think if anything like what Fresco suggests was to be implemented then it can only be done independently. I would be interested to know ideas on how this might be achieved!
@ShivayaNamahOm I've already seen Zeitgeist Moving Forward but thanks anyway(it was a good suggestion!) I was more(kind of)wondering about what would happen if his ideas were ever one day properly implemented and all of the logistic issues were then therefor addressed. How would he suggest dealing with some of the mentally ill & those with personality disorders(Psychotics/Socio-Psychopaths and the suchlike.) History sadly shows us that madmen have risen to power. How should we deal with this?
@anarchy3E: I agree full-heartedly. I was speaking of idealism after the 'transitional period'. Remember, I just finished watching a 35 year old clip of Mr. Fresco on Larry King in 1974. This system isn't going to happen overnight just because we're aware of it now. We can assist in making that transitional period shorter, but your 20% number is even lower than my hope. I should have been clearer in my intention. Apologies for that.
@hcpiano I agree with you on all points,especially with regard to culture, type of knowledge, age etc...(& even the lack of writing space on youtube thing!) Nature VS Nurture is a complex issue.
@MsJony1234 The fear and reactionary condition that you speak of, is exactly what Fresco is addressing in a resource based economy. He is talking about eliminating the root causes of fear and greed, which are a by product of scarcity.
@ShivayaNamahOm I suspect that you are probably correct in suggesting that different approaches to such issues would be more benificial. It is indeed a complex question.
I agree with you , totally . However , i totally agree with Jaques visions and ideas . He is a modern genius , and at the age of 41 , i can shake off the shackles of indoctrination and embrace his supreme ideology ! The man is a living , breathing saviour . Its just a shame that very few people can actually connect with him
@ShivayaNamahOm That was an interesting answer! You may well be(to a certain extent)correct and I assume you agree that it is a difficult problem which would definitely need to be addressed. Thanks for the feedback.
@Ko252 I am? I wasn't aware of that... Good thing you know more about me than I do! I support TVP and I hope that more people will open their minds to the idea before it is too late. My point is that competition should be friendly in spirit, and the goal should always be to improve what one has, rather than being better than others for the sake of being better alone. Survival for human beings is an act of co-operation , look at how agriculture and hunting societies emerged. One word: Partnership
@Juefawn We should compete with our own previous efforts. We should work with the goal of bettering ourselves, rather than being better than others. I believe in friendly competition, as long as the goal is the improvement itself, and not the triumph over the "competitor". The latter, however, is dominant in our culture, and we find ourselves primarily trying to be better than others, rather than trying to better ourselves. This is my impression of the modern world.
It makes me very happy to realise that at least some people break through their inherited unquestioned set of cultural beliefs and realise that it is just seperatism.If more and more people can do this then maybe the planet has at least a small chance
And curiosity is not limited to humans. It belongs in a broader category. It is the strong desire to know or learn something. And not all humans have this... so I would argue that it is not inherent in humans to be curious. But not all people have that ability, I know many people who don't dare become curious because of their religion. Just as one example. Many people accept the world around them without questioning things. Jaques is saying that we need to change that through environment.
I must say, I, I like his thought, and wished would come true some day. The problem, I think, is that he does not accound for psychological factor for why the world is so today. How do he account for jealousy? For greed? For hatred? For cruelty, etc? If the solution is to shut down those feeling, than that is not the way to go, either. (Thiking of the movie The Demolition Man or Equilibrium, etc.)
@Ko252 Genetics predispose us, it does not form us entirely. It becomes more and more clear as we study this cosmos that our environment shapes us, and that all things must be seen in relation to all other things. We are as much our surroundings as we are brain, heart and body. Selfishness is taught along with the silly idea of separateness from the rest of the universe. This isolation is further empowered in our egocentric cultures. We might always find problems, but most of them are taught.
Why does Mr. Fresco's image of the utopic future look like scenes he got from the movies "Judge Dread" and "Total Recall". Just look at the architecture
I suppose I should add that I do not know enough about this man to say whether I fully agree with everything he has to say but(that said)I do find his ideas intriguing.
@hcpiano Nurture is somewhat of a no brainer,as it obviously can and does have a huge amount of developmental effect in humans(and no doubt other species.) What fascinates me is the degree to which Nature(genetics for example)can determine development and at what level the two(N&N)may merge or be(kind of)parallel. I should point out that anybody with say a genetic illness of some kind(be this physical or mental)may need a different kind of nurture in order to optimize their overall happiness.
@MsJony1234 Human nature according to Fresco's research is a by product of its environment. He talks about an island where resource based economy was practiced in tribes. Nobody hoarded anything there, they gave away. The culture was that of giving away. Our culture programs our behavior, not our nature. Therefore, TVP is redesign of our culture. If you ask Fresco, he'll tell you that there is no human nature, there is only human behavior which depends on the environment a human is subjected to
@PREEZIETV Well, whether we like it or not, the human consciousness is manipulated by environment. The question is, is is suitable? Is it conducive to our needs and happiness? I understand what you mean though - it's certainly not an easy task! I'm not sure if power necessarily corrupts... It's true that, when recognized correctly, it can enable great things - if not, terrible things too. I reason that power abuse occurs in the extention of one's action to areas outside one's ability or knowhow.
As old as the greed, power and manipulation that come and goes in our history. This is not about new ideas, this is about the right ones. He doesn't say he is a better thinker than anyone; your feeling is just a nice evidence of the very ignorance and "yeah, right" mood of the vast majority of population. Raise consciousness,
@anarchy3E No ...he demonstrates what he knows to be possible as solutions to problems..unfortunetly there are people like you who think that is a bad thing and strive to hold onto that which is crippling them..ie the monetary system.
@ariseshine100 I have a few questions for you(and those whom may think like you do) :- 1.)What is your methodology to both find and unequivocally establish what is indeed the truth? 2.)What exactly are you personally doing(or at least attempting to do)to help your fellow man or mankind? 3.)Do you think that Jacques Fresco's ideas on this matter could ever be realistically implemented?(and if so how exactly?) & Lastly,do you think these are fair questions? Cheers!
@CalinFR We are still animals. Further on, only a small proportion of our species seems to have evolved, and driving our society forward, like Fresco. Rest of us, are mere animals. Competition is necessary for technological advancement, etc. And if that is your stand, then, you my sir, is a dreamer.
if we as a symbiant society would finally take a right turn, in 500 years fresco 'd be treated by history like the leonardo da vinci of our time. masiva respecto
@Elibobbob You sound(kind of)sane! I agree with you to the extent and degree that both this world & people are(in my opinion)by way of their very nature extremely fucked up! True Civilization is an ideal that has not yet ever been fully attained but it is obviously a goal worthy of pursuit! I agree that Jacques Fresco has some great ideas on this subject but I suspect(with the world being the way it is right now)that the implementation of his dreams will be impractical and therefor impossible.
@RandomVortex (continued) as Socrates said that it was necessary to create a tension in the mind so that individuals could rise from the bondage of myths and half truths to the unfettered realm of creative analysis and objective appraisal - in today's world people are so accustomed, by personal denial and control instilled by the elites, that they can't comprehend living outside this current system, they can't fathom it.......
And please keep in mind, I NEVER said that genetics don't play a role. I simply said they don't determine your life, and certainly they don't contain the blueprints for a flute.
actually, we are behing, the way i view it. If we have the ability to do these things to help us and we are not, then we are wasting time, and are behind. He is right on scedule
@RyGuy147 No he actually dont say that. A lot of people agree that the childhood/enwirement counts for like 70% to90% and nurture counts for 30% to 10% (and when I say "counts for" i think about the reason for the behavior) Of course some people have mental and physical problems and it is due to the genes. Both counts and "work together"
@RandomVortex Well I agree with you almost all the way. I really dont want to set of a huge nature vs nurture debate, but I think for me (and maybe others) to understand what you are saying as good as possibly, we have to talk about it some more. :P (because of differences; culture, type of knowledge, age and so on).. I think you understand this very well, but I just had to write it to make it clear. :) (btw; the shortage of writing-space on youtube, kind of irrites me :P)
@claudelebel55 I disagree. Scarcity is one of the main causes of corrupt behavior. Of course you not being able to buy food wouldn't necessarily make you greedy. But what would you be willing to do to obtain that food if you couldn't purchase it, or there simply wasn't enough? would you kill for it? would you steal it? Scarcity would force you to engage in corrupt behavior in order to survive. The point being: People are only products from which their enviroment has conditioned them to be.
@Cuddrow I have never said that environment isnt of importance, far from. I said that the genetics is the raw material, with the environment being the artist. Selfishness is a human trait bearing importance to our survival. Many things, including traits that are thought away, are encoded in our genes. Why do you find this trait in other animals, also?
Esteem deals with things like achievement, respect of and from others, confidence, self-actualization is more to do with creativity, problem solving and the 'meaning' of life if you will.
Jacque is my hero. Watch the video of his Larry king interview, he was so far ahead of his time its crazy. I also suggested CNN do a story on him asap. Everyone should write to them to do a story on the venus project to get the word out!
@magicdarragh One of my backgrounds is also in engineering so i see the relevance of structure and the humanistic perspective. I agree with a lot of what Jacques is saying but tend to have hesitation on manipulating the human consciousness intentionally. I believe power can corrupt and unless humans are being managed by programs then emotion can breed destruction and envy.
@Cuddrow Competition is seldom friendly in spirit (look at history), so that range to naivity. Survival of human being, or all organism for that matter, is all about competition. As long as a cooperation yields benefits in that matter, this will be upheld, but when this is becoming a drag, then it is broken. Apropos the hunting and agriculture societies; when do you think warfare emerged?
This system can only fall when it is at it's edge of failure, don't think people will give it up right now but in a few years when things will be really bad
@Ko252 So what? It does not mean it HAS to be unfriendly in spirit. If we felt more connected to each other, then we could have a great, friendly competition for making the best technology for everybody. I consider life on earth one big organism that builds complexity to the point where it can spread to other planets and beyond. It always finds a way, and if we are to be part of this way, we have to cooperate. It is the most obvious way of getting things done.
Look at Tesla & all the vast libraries of knowledge out there available to buy or download in torrents. One must always remember to be sceptical- I say. Don't let your beliefs rule your existence. This is harder than we think to maintain or even accomplish.
@anarchy3E If you must have a need in order to work let's call it "the need to contribute". After some hard work you might make it on your own and become able to meet your needs for survival, but cooperation takes you a lot further. Don't you think there's a reason we observe cooperation in the "animal kingdom"? That's why I made the comparison to the Ants and Bees.
Then again, if you watched "Zeitgeist Addendum," you'll see that Jacque Fresco also says that "The Bible is subject to interpretation." I'd appreciate any sort of reply or input on this topic of god and the bible and such.
i think he is in the right place and the right time now. the monetry system and so called elite will fall. people will see the whole picture and hopefully do whats right for all on earth in order to survive and serve for the goodwill for all.
I think jacques is a brilliant man and very knowledgeable . An open mind is a fertile mind . I'm not sure about the chi gong , he may have been aware of it but i'm certain he put all of his time into inventing
What an incredible man!! The wisdom, wow!! 🎉👏👏👏
If only 10% of mankind was like this man, the world would be a better place to live in.
I do not understand how anyone could hear this and not get it. It's so simple and makes so much sense at the same time. Life is only as complicated as we make it.
When I found out about this guy he sparked hope for my future, our future.
you are one of the few sane people left in this idiotic world ... my love to you ...
What a beautiful sentiment! I hope he lives to a hundred and twenty. He truly is a treasure!
97 years old, and this man is still eons ahead of his time.
I love this man so much, He is a man with solutions where most men complain and criticize with no input toward solving the problems. This man has an extremely important ways in which the entire globe can be benefited and advocates no less
than a brand new beginning . That we can use the highest wisdom to bring real and lasting peace and equality tor ALL. Yet we still have opposition to his ideas with
accusations and ridicule by those who refuse to see, hear, or know TRUTH.
this man is a true intellectual and believe me when I tell you I want nothing more for myself to adopt his doctrine into my life and to start my own movement.
"dudeedud7"
I haven't come across Jacque talking about building seven . It's one subject that i disagree with jacque on . I come from an aerospace engineering background and there are too many things that happened that day that do not add up . Building 7 and the BBC broadcasting its fall 20mins before it actually happened , are the two best examples.
Thanks Jacque for all your insights
@MsJony1234 Good question. The reason why the millionaire wants to be a billionaire is the environment of scarcity he/she is raised in. It is the training of competition, fear and greed he/she gets as growing up in the society. You'll have to think and reason a little bit deeper to understand this argument.
Roxanne Meadows is so intelligent as well. I'm so grateful to be able to have access to their knowledge.
All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed, then it is accepted as self-evident.
@StraightOuttaDC he is absolutely right. Our social system really needs to be torn apart and rebuilt from the ground up. Our current communication system is always up for interpretation, and because of that, we can't even interpret our holy texts anymore because they're always being rewritten. Not only that, but again, the language they were written in can be interpreted in many ways, making it even more difficult to find the ONE message in any sort of prophetic scripture. Peace out.
I think you are correct Igneous, the gene that carries curiousity is prominent , in animals also.
I've noticed that the people who are not that keen on Jacque's fine words are people who think about what they may lose , as opposed to what you would gain with such a designed society . Jacques ideas are great and the Venus Project doesn't get the recognition it deserves .
He is a fine man and an exceptional inventor.
@TimeSum21 good question. What answers could you think of?
This man speaks the truth and knows what to do, to make a better world for all, yet as long as we remain in our comfort state of watching tv and movies and eating tv dinners and watching monday night football with beer and chips and working mon to fri and weekends spent on going out and talking about the week and how it has been. AS long as the rulers of the world, Rothchilds, Rockeffellers, etc the scum remain, i dont see this godly mans vision come to light. Its a sad cold fact at the moment.
@anthonyu2:
My post didn't show up, and was deleted so I will try again.
Maslow's hierarchy of needs really rings true to me when attempting to understand human incentive when "money" is taken away or rendered meaningless. Maslow was an american psychologist who proposed that once a person has their physiological, safety, love/belonging needs met, the last two steps on his hierarchy are esteem and self-actualization.
@RandomVortex I believe that Mr. Fresco has clearly pointed out that most of the Humanitarian efforts are almost pointless, because we are not changing the SOURCE of the problem, which the source is the unsustainable, now unpractical monetary system. Yes, absolutely, the system Mr. Fresco suggests can only be done and can be started in Rural Areas, it has to be a grassroots movement. One of the biggest problems with human beings is that we grow too easily accustomed.....
may god bless u jacque fresco i love listing to u
"Superstition prevails where ignorance prevails." -Jaque Fresco. hot damn!
4:08 to 4:26 is ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS and worthy of quoting.
you're right. I was just wondering. I've been listening to the podcasts form the zeitgeist movement website and peter cleared it up for me. Thanks everybody.
Mr Fresco, I know you are 95 years old, but if you are reading this, we are working on it, and hopefully in your lifetime you WILL see the start of a global resource based society.
Some blood may be shed I apologize in advance for that. It is the only way.
The establishment will fight with all its might but unification of the new will prevail towards a state-less world.
Take care and stay safe.
I've only just started listening to some of what this man has to say and must admit I find it all truly fascinating.
I am curious to know what he might have to say on the subject of Mental illness,Psychopathy and how he might suggest addressing such a problem.
I would be very grateful to anybody who could direct me to anything online where he may deal with this kind of subject matter!
@RandomVortex
2#
I think we agree that N&N works together and that both are essential as in who you turn out to be. My understanding of it is that we are born"clean/pure"(In a way that we havent been affected as much in a mental way yet) of course we are never totally pure, because we are affected by the envirement before we are born(the stomac and feelings of the mother is your envirement. It is like that from the second we are a cell to we die) early stages of nur* becomes later stg of nat*
@mytubebz
How would you suggest anybody who wants to make the world a better place should go about it?
One practical idea I can think of is simply doing humanitarian work of some kind but sadly even the best efforts can be ruined by War,Greed and power.(which are usually root causes of the problem in the first place.
I think if anything like what Fresco suggests was to be implemented then it can only be done independently.
I would be interested to know ideas on how this might be achieved!
@ShivayaNamahOm
I've already seen Zeitgeist Moving Forward but thanks anyway(it was a good suggestion!)
I was more(kind of)wondering about what would happen if his ideas were ever one day properly implemented and all of the logistic issues were then therefor addressed.
How would he suggest dealing with some of the mentally ill & those with personality disorders(Psychotics/Socio-Psychopaths and the suchlike.)
History sadly shows us that madmen have risen to power.
How should we deal with this?
@anarchy3E:
I agree full-heartedly. I was speaking of idealism after the 'transitional period'. Remember, I just finished watching a 35 year old clip of Mr. Fresco on Larry King in 1974. This system isn't going to happen overnight just because we're aware of it now. We can assist in making that transitional period shorter, but your 20% number is even lower than my hope. I should have been clearer in my intention. Apologies for that.
In the future this man will be a hero to all.
@hcpiano
I agree with you on all points,especially with regard to culture, type of knowledge, age etc...(& even the lack of writing space on youtube thing!)
Nature VS Nurture is a complex issue.
@anarchy3E
what do you think the venus project is based upon?
@MsJony1234 The fear and reactionary condition that you speak of, is exactly what Fresco is addressing in a resource based economy. He is talking about eliminating the root causes of fear and greed, which are a by product of scarcity.
@ShivayaNamahOm
I suspect that you are probably correct in suggesting that different approaches to such issues would be more benificial.
It is indeed a complex question.
I agree with you , totally .
However , i totally agree with Jaques visions and ideas . He is a modern genius , and at the age of 41 , i can shake off the shackles of indoctrination and embrace his supreme ideology ! The man is a living , breathing saviour . Its just a shame that very few people can actually connect with him
@ShivayaNamahOm
That was an interesting answer!
You may well be(to a certain extent)correct and I assume you agree that it is a difficult problem which would definitely need to be addressed.
Thanks for the feedback.
@Ko252 I am? I wasn't aware of that... Good thing you know more about me than I do! I support TVP and I hope that more people will open their minds to the idea before it is too late. My point is that competition should be friendly in spirit, and the goal should always be to improve what one has, rather than being better than others for the sake of being better alone. Survival for human beings is an act of co-operation , look at how agriculture and hunting societies emerged. One word: Partnership
@Juefawn We should compete with our own previous efforts. We should work with the goal of bettering ourselves, rather than being better than others. I believe in friendly competition, as long as the goal is the improvement itself, and not the triumph over the "competitor". The latter, however, is dominant in our culture, and we find ourselves primarily trying to be better than others, rather than trying to better ourselves. This is my impression of the modern world.
Wow! This man, Jacques Fresco, makes a lot of sense, but the question still reamains, how do we change the enviroment in the way he suggests?
"Love is wise,Hatred is foolish!"(Bertrand"BERTY"Russell.)
wisdom is the ability to make more logical decisions
@deanjdk That's totally the right attitude everyone needs to adopt. Kudos.
@RoryMacManus
What do 93yr old intellectuals normally wear ?
It makes me very happy to realise that at least some people break through their inherited unquestioned set of cultural beliefs and realise that it is just seperatism.If more and more people can do this then maybe the planet has at least a small chance
@deanjdk
sorry i meant to say "do not express what we term as ownership"..not do "now"
And curiosity is not limited to humans. It belongs in a broader category. It is the strong desire to know or learn something. And not all humans have this... so I would argue that it is not inherent in humans to be curious. But not all people have that ability, I know many people who don't dare become curious because of their religion. Just as one example. Many people accept the world around them without questioning things. Jaques is saying that we need to change that through environment.
I would give anything to spend one day with this man just talking.
I must say, I, I like his thought, and wished would come true some day. The problem, I think, is that he does not accound for psychological factor for why the world is so today. How do he account for jealousy? For greed? For hatred? For cruelty, etc?
If the solution is to shut down those feeling, than that is not the way to go, either. (Thiking of the movie The Demolition Man or Equilibrium, etc.)
Nah man. It won't die. As long as we know, we just gotta keep spreading the word, something will get done.
@Ko252 Genetics predispose us, it does not form us entirely. It becomes more and more clear as we study this cosmos that our environment shapes us, and that all things must be seen in relation to all other things. We are as much our surroundings as we are brain, heart and body. Selfishness is taught along with the silly idea of separateness from the rest of the universe. This isolation is further empowered in our egocentric cultures. We might always find problems, but most of them are taught.
Why does Mr. Fresco's image of the utopic future look like scenes he got from the movies "Judge Dread" and "Total Recall". Just look at the architecture
I suppose I should add that I do not know enough about this man to say whether I fully agree with everything he has to say but(that said)I do find his ideas intriguing.
great video
This man 'Jacques Fresco' is a genius!
thank you
@hcpiano
Nurture is somewhat of a no brainer,as it obviously can and does have a huge amount of developmental effect in humans(and no doubt other species.)
What fascinates me is the degree to which Nature(genetics for example)can determine development and at what level the two(N&N)may merge or be(kind of)parallel.
I should point out that anybody with say a genetic illness of some kind(be this physical or mental)may need a different kind of nurture in order to optimize their overall happiness.
I love this man!!
@MsJony1234 Human nature according to Fresco's research is a by product of its environment. He talks about an island where resource based economy was practiced in tribes. Nobody hoarded anything there, they gave away. The culture was that of giving away. Our culture programs our behavior, not our nature. Therefore, TVP is redesign of our culture. If you ask Fresco, he'll tell you that there is no human nature, there is only human behavior which depends on the environment a human is subjected to
@PREEZIETV Well, whether we like it or not, the human consciousness is manipulated by environment. The question is, is is suitable? Is it conducive to our needs and happiness? I understand what you mean though - it's certainly not an easy task! I'm not sure if power necessarily corrupts... It's true that, when recognized correctly, it can enable great things - if not, terrible things too. I reason that power abuse occurs in the extention of one's action to areas outside one's ability or knowhow.
As old as the greed, power and manipulation that come and goes in our history. This is not about new ideas, this is about the right ones.
He doesn't say he is a better thinker than anyone; your feeling is just a nice evidence of the very ignorance and "yeah, right" mood of the vast majority of population.
Raise consciousness,
'science is being able to predict the next most probable' very well put!
12 dislikes- religious/conservative/capitalist...
superstition prevails where ignorance prevails. #wow
@anarchy3E
No ...he demonstrates what he knows to be possible as solutions to problems..unfortunetly there are people like you who think that is a bad thing and strive to hold onto that which is crippling them..ie the monetary system.
@ariseshine100
I have a few questions for you(and those whom may think like you do) :-
1.)What is your methodology to both find and unequivocally establish what is indeed the truth?
2.)What exactly are you personally doing(or at least attempting to do)to help your fellow man or mankind?
3.)Do you think that Jacques Fresco's ideas on this matter could ever be realistically implemented?(and if so how exactly?)
& Lastly,do you think these are fair questions?
Cheers!
@CalinFR We are still animals. Further on, only a small proportion of our species seems to have evolved, and driving our society forward, like Fresco. Rest of us, are mere animals. Competition is necessary for technological advancement, etc. And if that is your stand, then, you my sir, is a dreamer.
if we as a symbiant society would finally take a right turn, in 500 years fresco 'd be treated by history like the leonardo da vinci of our time.
masiva respecto
@Elibobbob
You sound(kind of)sane!
I agree with you to the extent and degree that both this world & people are(in my opinion)by way of their very nature extremely fucked up!
True Civilization is an ideal that has not yet ever been fully attained but it is obviously a goal worthy of pursuit!
I agree that Jacques Fresco has some great ideas on this subject but I suspect(with the world being the way it is right now)that the implementation of his dreams will be impractical and therefor impossible.
@MsJony1234 I'm sorry I don't clearly understand your question. Can you explain it better what you mean?
@tatmoote Great comment, your right my friend!
@RandomVortex (continued) as Socrates said that it was necessary to create a tension in the mind so that individuals could rise from the bondage of myths and half truths to the unfettered realm of creative analysis and objective appraisal - in today's world people are so accustomed, by personal denial and control instilled by the elites, that they can't comprehend living outside this current system, they can't fathom it.......
Agreed completely.
Truly, this man is my brother. I believe the current Earth 2.0 film project will attempt to convey his insights to a bigger audience...
And please keep in mind, I NEVER said that genetics don't play a role. I simply said they don't determine your life, and certainly they don't contain the blueprints for a flute.
I would like to have a sample of Memory metal.
actually, we are behing, the way i view it. If we have the ability to do these things to help us and we are not, then we are wasting time, and are behind. He is right on scedule
@RyGuy147 No he actually dont say that. A lot of people agree that the childhood/enwirement counts for like 70% to90% and nurture counts for 30% to 10% (and when I say "counts for" i think about the reason for the behavior) Of course some people have mental and physical problems and it is due to the genes. Both counts and "work together"
@RandomVortex Well I agree with you almost all the way. I really dont want to set of a huge nature vs nurture debate, but I think for me (and maybe others) to understand what you are saying as good as possibly, we have to talk about it some more. :P (because of differences; culture, type of knowledge, age and so on).. I think you understand this very well, but I just had to write it to make it clear. :)
(btw; the shortage of writing-space on youtube, kind of irrites me :P)
Brilliant!
Hats off to Jac!
He stated that the Bible is subject to interpretation because it is...by many different people and their different perceptions.
@claudelebel55 I disagree. Scarcity is one of the main causes of corrupt behavior. Of course you not being able to buy food wouldn't necessarily make you greedy. But what would you be willing to do to obtain that food if you couldn't purchase it, or there simply wasn't enough? would you kill for it? would you steal it? Scarcity would force you to engage in corrupt behavior in order to survive. The point being: People are only products from which their enviroment has conditioned them to be.
@Cuddrow I have never said that environment isnt of importance, far from. I said that the genetics is the raw material, with the environment being the artist. Selfishness is a human trait bearing importance to our survival. Many things, including traits that are thought away, are encoded in our genes. Why do you find this trait in other animals, also?
Esteem deals with things like achievement, respect of and from others, confidence, self-actualization is more to do with creativity, problem solving and the 'meaning' of life if you will.
Jacque is my hero. Watch the video of his Larry king interview, he was so far ahead of his time its crazy. I also suggested CNN do a story on him asap. Everyone should write to them to do a story on the venus project to get the word out!
@magicdarragh One of my backgrounds is also in engineering so i see the relevance of structure and the humanistic perspective. I agree with a lot of what Jacques is saying but tend to have hesitation on manipulating the human consciousness intentionally. I believe power can corrupt and unless humans are being managed by programs then emotion can breed destruction and envy.
@Cuddrow Competition is seldom friendly in spirit (look at history), so that range to naivity. Survival of human being, or all organism for that matter, is all about competition. As long as a cooperation yields benefits in that matter, this will be upheld, but when this is becoming a drag, then it is broken. Apropos the hunting and agriculture societies; when do you think warfare emerged?
@TheAncientMind
It did indeed look like the Racoon was giving its food a bit of a rinse before eating it(so I would say yes.)
This system can only fall when it is at it's edge of failure, don't think people will give it up right now but in a few years when things will be really bad
@Ko252 So what? It does not mean it HAS to be unfriendly in spirit. If we felt more connected to each other, then we could have a great, friendly competition for making the best technology for everybody. I consider life on earth one big organism that builds complexity to the point where it can spread to other planets and beyond. It always finds a way, and if we are to be part of this way, we have to cooperate. It is the most obvious way of getting things done.
Like I said, he saw his environment and responded to it. External stimulus. Just like I JUST EXPLAINED!!
@itsadeadmansparty. Do everbody own the robots we have today? I must say it is quite bold of you to know so. much about the future.
@anarchy3E
well what do you propose?? anarchy?
Look at Tesla & all the vast libraries of knowledge out there available to buy or download in torrents. One must always remember to be sceptical- I say. Don't let your beliefs rule your existence. This is harder than we think to maintain or even accomplish.
my respect to you ...
@anarchy3E
If you must have a need in order to work let's call it "the need to contribute". After some hard work you might make it on your own and become able to meet your needs for survival, but cooperation takes you a lot further. Don't you think there's a reason we observe cooperation in the "animal kingdom"? That's why I made the comparison to the Ants and Bees.
Then again, if you watched "Zeitgeist Addendum," you'll see that Jacque Fresco also says that "The Bible is subject to interpretation."
I'd appreciate any sort of reply or input on this topic of god and the bible and such.
i think he is in the right place and the right time now.
the monetry system and so called elite will fall.
people will see the whole picture and hopefully do whats right for all on earth in order to survive and serve for the goodwill for all.
I think jacques is a brilliant man and very knowledgeable . An open mind is a fertile mind . I'm not sure about the chi gong , he may have been aware of it but i'm certain he put all of his time into inventing
you got that right