You could tell that from names, jokes aside I think it just fucks the algorythmus, everybody will stop watching after the 3-0, so there will be 30-40% of video with 0 watchtime and that leads to a really bad watch time/video length rate.
@@sylol200 hate to say it, but yep. lol. i mean. i really DONT hate to say it, cuz i dont want them in worlds this year. not cuz im a hater, but...they just need a fucking vacation. theyre clearly burnt out and dead overworked
@@mwbwyatt agreed. They look almost like they don't want to be playing. The earlier meta wasn't for them and they struggled a bunch and now unfortunately they are just outclassed by the top teams and some times the worst teams.
They learned from last year T1 and also the DRX the year before But since next year there'll be three splits, I think Split 1 and 2 they're still being meta slaves while Split 3 they're starting to innovate
@@ddddirge i don't think they learned from both drx and T1 both were known for being mostly meta slaves until they're backs against the wall. I think it came from patches in pro play being so long that pros actually researching counter picks
@@renzo4753 stubborn? More like don't wanting to waste time looking for new meta champs. Coming from many LCK personnel, LCK is known for just trying to perfect what they already know what is proven. Trying to find new good champs takes quite some time and effort. They just wait for other leagues to try those champs out and adapt later.
@@jasonsmart1 lck didn't innovate the meta, they perfected the meta and made it stale and really boring. When riot forced changes to combat the boring meta, they were always be one step behind macro wise & draft wise before canyon & showmaker won worlds
T1 let ziggs have his first loss so DK won't ban it against them, then T1 will blast DK with ziggs. All according to plan...i'm overdosing in copium rn lmaooo
Man... I feel like T1 took Ziggs because they don't know better at this point. Geng/HLE took Ziggs to gain tempo and gold from destroying turrets early while having a Giga scaling compo, then, when the map is opened, use this advantage to clear vision and out macro T1. This, plus the fact that Peanut pratically won't every move/ jungle contest vs Oner = Game Over
Zeus is not bad, but you cant play top carries in swap meta - you are just getting swapped on and get starved and killed under tower... you can only play tanks or bruisers; So yeah just give Guma Ziggs, Trist, or other scaling / turret destroyer champs and lets go..
They look burnt out and tired, dudes haven’t had a break in a long ass time. T1 did them a disservice with their offseason scheduling all that extra shit for traveling after winning worlds. The Red Bull and the media tour they basically had a couple week break where everyone else had a couple months to chill. Not to mention EWC too for them, their traveling this year has probably taken a toll on
Zekas yone is probably the best in the world. His engages never leave him vulnerable like with other players. It's really amazing. It seems he's the only one who truly figured out yone.
right now Worlds can be very entertaining due to the wide pool of champs which are getting picked :D better than this worlds with yuumi every game first pick or every game same Lineups around jinx aphelios for example :D so very pointless :D
he's really good on melee champs, i mean his signatures for years were akali and sylas. and honestly, with things like garen, yone, nasus, melee's going back into mid, he can bring his champs back out of retirement. and its a great time to come back into form for him.
Well..... All of us can reach to the conclusion where we think "Did Gen.G scrim with HLE and DK with T1?" Cause if you look at set 1 and 2 especially set 2 T1 literally did the same draft as DK
@@brazzb761 Well... DK didn't have the chance to know how much ziggs was op So..... there is some part we can understand.... But T1 saw Gen.g vs DK so they should've known ziggs was op but they didn't ban it for 2 games and the last game they played ziggs...... the game went on like what you said
@@Richard.L.CharlesViper didnt look that good on ziggs. It was fine, but not a huge problem. Ziggs himself isnt op, its just that GENG uses him really well.
this is actually a REALLY good meta for HLE if it continues on this trend. viper is an excellent mage player, and with melee's becoming more prominent in midlane to counter adc's, thats...thats zeka's wheelhouse.
Main takeaway for me is, DK and T1 dont really understand the meta and how to draft, T1 tried and failed to counter the Ziggs Smolder comp and it looked like a weak draft and then tried to do the Ziggs Smolder comp and then got properly countered in draft by HLE. Also the Hands diffy in Mid and the brain diffy in JG is really hard to play into.
Zeka is one of the most mechanically talented players this generation together with Peyz and Keria. Honestly zeka's ability to learn new champions, improve on them and win team fights is insane. I would pick zeka for carries, chovy for scaling and laning, faker for game sense.
I really like hanwha not depending on Viper anymore especially when you compare it to spring where hanwha's main goal is to let viper get more gold as much as possible. but now they just do their own thing and execute teamfight perfectly🧡
@@Rhyolite-hyena When APCs were the meta in Wild Rift you'd get Orianna botlane sometimes. Given Faker used to play a lot of Orianna it'd be funny if he just took that and went botlane
@@numberM4 Damn and I thought my Ori Syndra Liss bot lane tech were secret enough since adc solo lane meta. But I guess Wild rift map & spacing is completely different so that shouldn't be suprising.
Looking like Gen G and HLE had the correct meta read while DK and T1 didn't. Ziggs turned out to be the most OP bot lane of the patch and T1 basically drafted horribly around it. Big gap this series was mid jungle. Zeka and Peanut played out of their minds this series. The coordination from HLE was miles ahead of T1 like what happened in Spring playoffs(dejavu). This was about who was the better team today. And as usual from the comments, people memeing as always about T1.
I like that ziggs proven to be OP in draft like caedrel was saying during GenG DK, and zero teams in top 4 this r2 banned ziggs so it ended up with a 100% pick rate And still t1 managed to end the ziggs winstreak
it's kind a funny because while the drafts are far more entertaining, the gameplay is far more boring, the games far more one-sided too because it's all macro with nearly no playmaking - last years playoffs was boring drafts but absolute banger games..this time its banger draft and boring games
The meta has been.... not stale & I am seeing HLE GenG make great use of macro, draft, champ pool, champ pick Meanwhile our legacy stars.... Showmaker, Faker seems a bit out of place as if they are just old one-trick player unable to keep up with the ever changing landscape.
I want to think this team has enough magic left in the tank to drag them through a lower bracket run but I don’t know. T1 looked really bad this series and a part of me wonders if burnout is starting to take hold. 3 years of this roster and this is the lowest they’ve ever looked. Reminds me of 2017 SKT somewhat but with even Faker in a slump, I’m not sure how far they’ll get. Edit (Because people can't read): This isn't about T1 being "tired' or whatever, that's not what burnout is. The team isn't playing to their usual standard and there is a *chance* something is causing that. Obviously HLE played very well but T1 under performing this hard is also troubling.
Oh my gooood. Always with the tired reason. I can guarantee you the major factor for why they lost is more so because HLE performed great than T1 performed bad. You guys never acknowledge the enemy team when it is very clear from the drafting to the macro HLE moved like GenG this match.
@@Marshblocker Did you not notice how close a lot of the important fights and picks were? It isn't like HLE just played it perfectly and owned them, many of the fights looked like they'd be different if the various bad executions from T1 didn't happen. HLE had a great performance but you can see plenty of points where slightly better play from T1 (which the players are capable of) could've potentially changed the games.
They got shitstomped, no excuses. And don’t cope with the T1 magic bs. If they can pull their heads from their asses that’d be a nice start. But I think faker needs to start thinking about retiring because I don’t think he’s gonna have another comeback arc.
I like vlad a lot. He's one of those infinite stackers too. Even though it's pretty negligible you can get a ton of bonus health if you play around it. If the pros focussed on hemo stacks like Sennas and Dragonboy stacks, I think they'd find some value from that passive too. Vlad deals with dives very well and has some of the best potential to counter a lane swap situation. A Vlad late game is hard to deal with for a lot of squishy champions too.
T1 being this bad in teamfights is rough to watch because it's where they (usually) shine. But at least it's against the minigoat Peanut and the melee goat of giga-Zeka. This man's Akali and Yone are so nice to watch
Honestly ziggs is not really the problem, sure he is strong but T1 just got out drafted and out team fought. Like the first game the real problem was vi and the rest of the dive on hle, and the fact that t1s comp was all over the place when it came to what they wanted to do- guma wants uptime but noone can peel for him, lee sin and lb want to pick off, kennen wants to flank, braum was just completely useless. Second game was even more confusing for the draft. I think everyone was so confused that t1 didnt ban ziggs that they just didnt care that t1 first picked nasus mid and had a 4 bruiser and 1 mage comp, which is bad enough but it was also into a smolder who is free farming. In game three we see why ziggs isnt always amazing, this champ isnt a free win and i also dont think it should be first picked. I think the strength of ziggs is just the fact that he allows adcs mid and teams are not punishing this mostly immobile mage
DK and T1 must have been scrimming eachother a lot. They have very similar reads on what the meta should be, and they are both apparently WILDLY off. Both teams also played a lot worse than their opponents and I think HLE and GENG would have taken both series no matter what, but a better meta read may have at least made them close series
imo, there IS no meta in midlane atm. like, there's smolder, corki, zeri, trist, azir, and..i guess ori. and then there's the absurd amount of counterpicks people take: draven, garen, nasus, ori, yone, etc etc. i'd say it should be more entertaining than it is because of how fucking varied and widespread the meta for mid is but at the same time, im so sick of the adc midlane meta. xD
@mwbwyatt what? Faker was the first one that started getting blasted for having a bad corki. No one apart from chovy and creme were even decent never mind good.
I never understood why people stopped playing Yone after the Worlds when Yone and Ksante literally owned that Worlds. Now watching this series and seeing Yone solo winning the first and third game in team fights kinda make my point valid. This champ has so many tools for a great team fight, it is crazy not to pick. All you need is a little bit CC from teammates which can be possible with so many champs like Leona, Alistar, Rell, Vi, Kennen.
good catch with the Zhonias building - was already too mad at that point... so they either just "tank" the engade or evaporate T1 while they run at them... absolute Draft disaster...
idk alot about the rules for these tournaments but since the meta is favoring adc mid, mage bot (ziggs) and lane swappping. Why doesn't t1 just switch guma and faker out. faker plays ziggs in bot and guma plays the ad meta on mid? pls correct as i know nothing about pro play.
Swapping players entire role for them to play a champion they are comfortable on would ruin all strategy and macro they’ve practiced for laning phase. Now faker and keria have to learn to synergize together in bot lane and guma has to learn a lane that can be ganked from both sides. There’s endless reasons it’s a completely different laning phase than they’ve been doing for years.
Also to add to this, if Guma and Faker did swap, the opponent will take advantage of this by banning certain picks and forcing them into metas/champs they're uncomfortable on. A player like Zeka on Corki or Yone would just bully Guma for the entire game and Oner would need to babysit Guma, losing so much map control.
@@ClaudioProductionsXTheir draft is identical to many lck/lpl teams who won with the comp. It’s just a problem of how players execute the plan of the comp.
Deserved tbh You know how full of useless t1 hate the chat is. Literal degenerates. No point in discussion anymore if the entirety of league pro play discourse is "GenG is so goood woow". Am a DK Rat just like Pedro but T1 hate iw probably the cringiest thing in this game
You have no idea how hard it must be to moderate chat during T1 games (especially recently with some of the drama). Timing someone out for saying smth like that isnt justified ofcourse. But i doubt if you really got timed out for it or if you're just creating drama/overreacting.
Keria and Oner are playing like soloq and running it down 😂😂... Zeus doesn't knw what to when he is not super ahead.. Faker Guma can hardly do anything with JG SP getting outclassed
T1 are certainly out of form from what we've seen, but man I swear these games feel lost before we're even out of the draft screen. They are really struggling with the meta this season. Oner also just looked completely lost today
I gotta say, watching T1 struggle against Ziggs is kinda wild! 😂 It's like they forgot how to deal with him. And yeah, the thumbnail is fire, kinda makes me wanna watch just for that! 🎨✨
No anti-spoiler plant, you can tell after the first game that it's a 3-0.
And on top of that the editing was weird like there were way too many cuts I feel like
Thankfully I didn't see the timebar until after game 2 when I paused for irl stuff but lol seeing that timebar in game 3 champ select is rough.
Bro knows the anti-spoiler plant meta, respect
Game one was the closest one too 😂
You could tell that from names, jokes aside I think it just fucks the algorythmus, everybody will stop watching after the 3-0, so there will be 30-40% of video with 0 watchtime and that leads to a really bad watch time/video length rate.
Gets demolished by smolder ziggs comp
-> picks smolder ziggs
-> gets obliterated in even worse way
Like wtf 😂😂
they were just outclassed in every role imaginable xD
@@mwbwyatt pretty much all year by the top teams.
They are just not on hle and gen g level.
@@sylol200 hate to say it, but yep. lol.
i mean. i really DONT hate to say it, cuz i dont want them in worlds this year. not cuz im a hater, but...they just need a fucking vacation. theyre clearly burnt out and dead overworked
@@mwbwyatt agreed. They look almost like they don't want to be playing. The earlier meta wasn't for them and they struggled a bunch and now unfortunately they are just outclassed by the top teams and some times the worst teams.
It's weird seeing LCK being the innovators while having the history of being stubborn for doing any meta changes
They learned from last year T1 and also the DRX the year before
But since next year there'll be three splits, I think Split 1 and 2 they're still being meta slaves while Split 3 they're starting to innovate
@@ddddirge i don't think they learned from both drx and T1 both were known for being mostly meta slaves until they're backs against the wall. I think it came from patches in pro play being so long that pros actually researching counter picks
@@renzo4753 stubborn? More like don't wanting to waste time looking for new meta champs. Coming from many LCK personnel, LCK is known for just trying to perfect what they already know what is proven. Trying to find new good champs takes quite some time and effort. They just wait for other leagues to try those champs out and adapt later.
before 2018, LCK was always the innovator of meta
@@jasonsmart1 lck didn't innovate the meta, they perfected the meta and made it stale and really boring. When riot forced changes to combat the boring meta, they were always be one step behind macro wise & draft wise before canyon & showmaker won worlds
DAMN T1 ended the Ziggs winstreak!!
T1 let ziggs have his first loss so DK won't ban it against them, then T1 will blast DK with ziggs. All according to plan...i'm overdosing in copium rn lmaooo
@@lanoxparadox5040 you're not far from reality, this could be a macro brainstorming that T1 could be doing lol, but Guma hates ziggs you can tell.
Man... I feel like T1 took Ziggs because they don't know better at this point. Geng/HLE took Ziggs to gain tempo and gold from destroying turrets early while having a Giga scaling compo, then, when the map is opened, use this advantage to clear vision and out macro T1. This, plus the fact that Peanut pratically won't every move/ jungle contest vs Oner = Game Over
@@Ovinskilmaooooo bruh
@tygerovi guma might be the worst adc player in playoffs Right now like bro can't play shit
Peanut is Oner's cryptonite.
you meant the winning peanut? cuz there are two peanuts
More like Oner's father
@@NKR506Yeah, Oner will be crying with his worlds skin knowing that he doesn't choke internationally.
Where was peanut in msi@@NKR506
@@MikAIsWashed4108as there are 2 Oner. Oner and Peanut are just 2 coin flip rats
Still waiting for the day T1 will realize that Zeus is not their main man anymore. Give Guma the spotlight he deserves.
Just Zeus on tank duty
Zeus is not bad, but you cant play top carries in swap meta - you are just getting swapped on and get starved and killed under tower... you can only play tanks or bruisers;
So yeah just give Guma Ziggs, Trist, or other scaling / turret destroyer champs and lets go..
😂
been a while since t1 looked this clueless
only a year
a few weeks?
Where’s my poby mid😂
the whole summer split?
They look burnt out and tired, dudes haven’t had a break in a long ass time. T1 did them a disservice with their offseason scheduling all that extra shit for traveling after winning worlds. The Red Bull and the media tour they basically had a couple week break where everyone else had a couple months to chill. Not to mention EWC too for them, their traveling this year has probably taken a toll on
Peanut looked amazing every game. Love watching good jungle gameplay
Zekas yone is probably the best in the world. His engages never leave him vulnerable like with other players. It's really amazing. It seems he's the only one who truly figured out yone.
I’m a chovy fanboy and started maining yone cause of him but I gotta say zeka has to be #1 in the world on him
@@disfordivide I love watching chovy play yone. But zeka is better in teamfights
@@firststep.boomswish agreed, I like watching chovy’s soloq yone games but zeka is just built different
@@disfordivide haha yeah I watched so much chovy solo q yone
@@firststep.boomswish nah lmao, he’s on par with chovy at max
Don’t let Guma trick people to believe Ziggs is balanced. Riot have to gut him into the ground if they want Worlds to be watchable.
Guma makes everything look balanced
The turret destruction is the main problem
And ezreal, zeri, ashe lol
right now Worlds can be very entertaining due to the wide pool of champs which are getting picked :D better than this worlds with yuumi every game first pick or every game same Lineups around jinx aphelios for example :D so very pointless :D
@@destroyerdevil2yuumi jinx aphelios? Have you just woken up from a 2 year coma
HLE teamfighting is insane this series
hope we get to see more :)
@@diegosabillon hell yeah!
Zeka Yone is terrifying. This man looks insane on melee skirmishers
he's really good on melee champs, i mean his signatures for years were akali and sylas. and honestly, with things like garen, yone, nasus, melee's going back into mid, he can bring his champs back out of retirement. and its a great time to come back into form for him.
@@mwbwyattYes. He can also perform well on Azir and pocket of other picks.
Also, people rarely talk about how his Ahri is broken.
His yone, akali, sylas are the reason DRX won 2022 worlds.
T1 truly just went Carnivore lifestyle with all those plant jungle bans
😂
They even banned the spoiler plant.
How Ziggs is still making it past the first 6 bans is beyond me.
Well.....
All of us can reach to the conclusion where we think "Did Gen.G scrim with HLE and DK with T1?"
Cause if you look at set 1 and 2 especially set 2
T1 literally did the same draft as DK
fr, both teams had no fucking clue what to do about ziggs and when t1 plays it it's obvious they havbe almost no experience with it.
@@brazzb761 Well...
DK didn't have the chance to know how much ziggs was op
So..... there is some part we can understand....
But T1 saw Gen.g vs DK
so they should've known ziggs was op
but they didn't ban it for 2 games
and the last game they played ziggs......
the game went on like what you said
@@Richard.L.CharlesViper didnt look that good on ziggs. It was fine, but not a huge problem. Ziggs himself isnt op, its just that GENG uses him really well.
@@alex2005z your right
but the real problem is
At least HLE knew how to use ziggs
but T1 didn't
@@Richard.L.Charleshonestly i think T1 just wants to push into finals with GENG
Viper doesn't strike Caedrel as a mage player? Brother he once locked in Teemo back in the day, the man plays everything.
this is actually a REALLY good meta for HLE if it continues on this trend. viper is an excellent mage player, and with melee's becoming more prominent in midlane to counter adc's, thats...thats zeka's wheelhouse.
True he's been playing vlad cassiopeia
atlus says it, viper fucking played vladimir
Yeah he has a weird vision on Viper. He also said that Viper "isn't an Ezreal player" when he actually has almost 50 games on Ezreal.
fr, Viper and the rest of GRF had their breakout season in 2018 aka. the Random Bullshit Go/ADC Apocalypse. He fully embraced the chaos
nah but the thumbnail artist always delivers or what
Everything acording to plan. T1 loose’s to avoid GenG till finals
T1 will dodge gen.g by qualifying to lcq lol
What brand of copium are you inhaling ?
@@oudiniaurepo6691 copium? Nah, at this point im inhaling hopium
Main takeaway for me is, DK and T1 dont really understand the meta and how to draft, T1 tried and failed to counter the Ziggs Smolder comp and it looked like a weak draft and then tried to do the Ziggs Smolder comp and then got properly countered in draft by HLE.
Also the Hands diffy in Mid and the brain diffy in JG is really hard to play into.
JG and SP got different hard mid wasn't able to do anything.. So the winning mid always gonna look good...
I'm guessing T1 and DK were scrim partners and HLE GENG scrim too.
Zeka is one of the most mechanically talented players this generation together with Peyz and Keria. Honestly zeka's ability to learn new champions, improve on them and win team fights is insane. I would pick zeka for carries, chovy for scaling and laning, faker for game sense.
It's more like chovy for all 3 of those 😅
I really like hanwha not depending on Viper anymore especially when you compare it to spring where hanwha's main goal is to let viper get more gold as much as possible. but now they just do their own thing and execute teamfight perfectly🧡
Making the ADC absolutely unplayable in an ‘adc OP’ meta is pretty ingenious drafting from GENG
It would be funny if some pro team start to do the funny: Adc pro just go mid and the Mid pro just go bot with Mages
Ashe adc is and never was playble. Most useless champ in the game
@@superfranky8054 brother it was literally permabanned against T1 for like a year and a half
@@Rhyolite-hyena When APCs were the meta in Wild Rift you'd get Orianna botlane sometimes. Given Faker used to play a lot of Orianna it'd be funny if he just took that and went botlane
@@numberM4 Damn and I thought my Ori Syndra Liss bot lane tech were secret enough since adc solo lane meta. But I guess Wild rift map & spacing is completely different so that shouldn't be suprising.
Looking like Gen G and HLE had the correct meta read while DK and T1 didn't. Ziggs turned out to be the most OP bot lane of the patch and T1 basically drafted horribly around it. Big gap this series was mid jungle. Zeka and Peanut played out of their minds this series. The coordination from HLE was miles ahead of T1 like what happened in Spring playoffs(dejavu). This was about who was the better team today. And as usual from the comments, people memeing as always about T1.
because T1 is the biggest team while u mark over the smaller lck teams
I like that ziggs proven to be OP in draft like caedrel was saying during GenG DK, and zero teams in top 4 this r2 banned ziggs so it ended up with a 100% pick rate
And still t1 managed to end the ziggs winstreak
Honestly crazy what Riot has cooked lately, the drafts are all over the place and it's very entertaining !
You are so right I mean look at last year where everything was the same all the time, bro we have even vlad and garen now
this can't be serious
it's kind a funny because while the drafts are far more entertaining, the gameplay is far more boring, the games far more one-sided too because it's all macro with nearly no playmaking - last years playoffs was boring drafts but absolute banger games..this time its banger draft and boring games
@@johnkirk1772 I see what you mean, but I think it's a LCK thing because LPL/LEC playoffs have had huge rollercoasters
Pick late game champ and win, wow so entertaining
Zeka's yone is incredible
Zeka is on 22Worlds form
No, faker just ass. Chovy gonna 3 0 Zeka as always.
Zeka Play out of his mind this Series🔥, It Was A Bloodbath for T1
The meta has been.... not stale & I am seeing HLE GenG make great use of macro, draft, champ pool, champ pick
Meanwhile our legacy stars.... Showmaker, Faker seems a bit out of place as if they are just old one-trick player unable to keep up with the ever changing landscape.
They can't do much alone especially with Oner and Keria getting giga gapped this game Midland don't really have high impact if JG SP gets outclassed
Viper has a long history of playing mages bot even from academy days
54:58 Delight's "Ace" emote is the GenG 2023 icon
I want to think this team has enough magic left in the tank to drag them through a lower bracket run but I don’t know.
T1 looked really bad this series and a part of me wonders if burnout is starting to take hold. 3 years of this roster and this is the lowest they’ve ever looked. Reminds me of 2017 SKT somewhat but with even Faker in a slump, I’m not sure how far they’ll get.
Edit (Because people can't read): This isn't about T1 being "tired' or whatever, that's not what burnout is. The team isn't playing to their usual standard and there is a *chance* something is causing that. Obviously HLE played very well but T1 under performing this hard is also troubling.
They are tired, they play big split into esport events into playoff. They are playing tired and tiled off a poor season
Oh my gooood. Always with the tired reason. I can guarantee you the major factor for why they lost is more so because HLE performed great than T1 performed bad. You guys never acknowledge the enemy team when it is very clear from the drafting to the macro HLE moved like GenG this match.
@@Marshblocker Did you not notice how close a lot of the important fights and picks were? It isn't like HLE just played it perfectly and owned them, many of the fights looked like they'd be different if the various bad executions from T1 didn't happen. HLE had a great performance but you can see plenty of points where slightly better play from T1 (which the players are capable of) could've potentially changed the games.
@@randomhero6365 maybe accept that Trash1 is dogshit.
They got shitstomped, no excuses. And don’t cope with the T1 magic bs. If they can pull their heads from their asses that’d be a nice start. But I think faker needs to start thinking about retiring because I don’t think he’s gonna have another comeback arc.
Zeka did crazy good from not dieing in lans to lee Leblanc + his sick team fight ults
spoiler plant is missing
Why T1 is a mid tier team
No need
incoming t1 haters
@@turnermarius4471facts
Zeka is pretty cool ngl this dude is so mechanically skilled
Gen G vs Gen G Rejects in final
HEADBANGER PERFORMANCE BY HLE. Someone played a really useful Nasus/Smolder too btw
I like vlad a lot. He's one of those infinite stackers too. Even though it's pretty negligible you can get a ton of bonus health if you play around it. If the pros focussed on hemo stacks like Sennas and Dragonboy stacks, I think they'd find some value from that passive too. Vlad deals with dives very well and has some of the best potential to counter a lane swap situation. A Vlad late game is hard to deal with for a lot of squishy champions too.
The problem with Vlad is that he’s very combat summoner spell reliant in fights
you should do a draft short series where you go over why certain champs are better for the comp. kind of like the turning point episodes
Peanut played so well this game it was nice to see him in his top form!
It's crazy how similar things have already played out compared to spring, scriptwriters could have at least changed things a little.
SPOILER BLOCK
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T1 being this bad in teamfights is rough to watch because it's where they (usually) shine. But at least it's against the minigoat Peanut and the melee goat of giga-Zeka. This man's Akali and Yone are so nice to watch
Caedrel editor really dropping the anti spoiler ball last couple of days
If Doran steps it up im gonna believe so hard in hle man
Honestly ziggs is not really the problem, sure he is strong but T1 just got out drafted and out team fought. Like the first game the real problem was vi and the rest of the dive on hle, and the fact that t1s comp was all over the place when it came to what they wanted to do- guma wants uptime but noone can peel for him, lee sin and lb want to pick off, kennen wants to flank, braum was just completely useless.
Second game was even more confusing for the draft. I think everyone was so confused that t1 didnt ban ziggs that they just didnt care that t1 first picked nasus mid and had a 4 bruiser and 1 mage comp, which is bad enough but it was also into a smolder who is free farming.
In game three we see why ziggs isnt always amazing, this champ isnt a free win and i also dont think it should be first picked. I think the strength of ziggs is just the fact that he allows adcs mid and teams are not punishing this mostly immobile mage
DK and T1 must have been scrimming eachother a lot. They have very similar reads on what the meta should be, and they are both apparently WILDLY off.
Both teams also played a lot worse than their opponents and I think HLE and GENG would have taken both series no matter what, but a better meta read may have at least made them close series
Looks like we're seeing an end of an era.
We definitely know who T1 did scrims with😂😂😂
Well, we went from double adc meta to "maybe 1 adc meta" quickly
Brroo Peanut flash to stop Vi Q is a chef kiss!!
Zeka is in world’s form here we go
this meta making the sport interesting to watch. The same champion being played 50 games in a row is so boring.
Peanut is on another level.
Viper is not a big mage player is one of the dumbest things I've heard someone say with regards to LoL esports.
He meant this season/year tbf - he goes on to look at stats for mates this split
@@jameselliott-hughes3495 bcause before this Ziggs isnt really viable, using your logic that means Faker can't play Akali, Ryze, Syndra, etc.
then you must be not reading comments at all
@@saintofthechurchofautism8433 Actually he was looking at career stats, before today he'd played 3 games of Ziggs his entire career.
I honestly can't tell if HLE played out of their minds or if T1 just played absolutely horrible
Serial inters. I don't think another miracle run is coming this worlds. I will eat my words if they do it.
saving just in case
Game 2 is the most interesting draft of the patch in my opinion
Everyone said this would be a t1 meta but faker looks so out of place on the meta mid-lane champs right now.
imo, there IS no meta in midlane atm. like, there's smolder, corki, zeri, trist, azir, and..i guess ori. and then there's the absurd amount of counterpicks people take: draven, garen, nasus, ori, yone, etc etc.
i'd say it should be more entertaining than it is because of how fucking varied and widespread the meta for mid is but at the same time, im so sick of the adc midlane meta. xD
@@mwbwyatt yeah and faker is really bad at ads mid too.
@@kbak1919 its ironic how good he used to be on corki before the rework and now he just loses matchups on it perma
@mwbwyatt what? Faker was the first one that started getting blasted for having a bad corki. No one apart from chovy and creme were even decent never mind good.
@@ScoutlolLPL not adc corki. back when he was a mage midlane. when he still had package, etc etc. he's totally different now
I've never seen T1 get bitched in teamfights like this. Usually they always get stomped in drafts or sometimes macro but rarely in teamfights.
Editor faster than HLE vs T1
i was gonna stay up and watch the series but the moment i saw t1 not ban ziggs and let hle pick him i already knew what was gonna happen
Dk and T1 really being scrimming with each other thinking nasus/seraphine is a decent comp.
lets go a 3-0 its gonna be another easy 3-0 in LB final right? right? right?
spring split ptsd
I swear Doran doen't just have a rent free penthouse in Zeus' head. Bro has an entire country festering in that mind.
Nah.. He just tries a lot of attempts, excessively. He caught Zeus as much as he was caught in the series by t1. He is the weakness of the team..
We have to remember T1 did win the Esports thing in Riyadh they get some magic in international thats not MSI
This meta is so sick though! So many cool champs coming out of the woodwork
I never understood why people stopped playing Yone after the Worlds when Yone and Ksante literally owned that Worlds. Now watching this series and seeing Yone solo winning the first and third game in team fights kinda make my point valid. This champ has so many tools for a great team fight, it is crazy not to pick. All you need is a little bit CC from teammates which can be possible with so many champs like Leona, Alistar, Rell, Vi, Kennen.
Lower bracket gonna be fire dude! Two teams that refuse to just ban the ziggs!
even the timestamp is not covering for T1, no plant needed its sos obvious
good catch with the Zhonias building - was already too mad at that point... so they either just "tank" the engade or evaporate T1 while they run at them... absolute Draft disaster...
idk alot about the rules for these tournaments but since the meta is favoring adc mid, mage bot (ziggs) and lane swappping. Why doesn't t1 just switch guma and faker out. faker plays ziggs in bot and guma plays the ad meta on mid? pls correct as i know nothing about pro play.
Swapping players entire role for them to play a champion they are comfortable on would ruin all strategy and macro they’ve practiced for laning phase. Now faker and keria have to learn to synergize together in bot lane and guma has to learn a lane that can be ganked from both sides. There’s endless reasons it’s a completely different laning phase than they’ve been doing for years.
Also to add to this, if Guma and Faker did swap, the opponent will take advantage of this by banning certain picks and forcing them into metas/champs they're uncomfortable on. A player like Zeka on Corki or Yone would just bully Guma for the entire game and Oner would need to babysit Guma, losing so much map control.
the meta is fucking T1 so much
Game 1 Ashe was just erased from the whole game.
I mean, what can you do in the face of Yone, Vi, Rakan ults followed by Ziggs and Vlad ults.
Picking AD champs that can buy stopwatch really swung some fights.
these T1 drafts are beyond horrendous.
Always an excuse. But if they would of won then you would say t1 drafts best in the world. Can't have it both ways.
@simonbelmont548 no, I would ask how in the world they won with such an atrocious draft
@@ClaudioProductionsX stop the 🧢
@@ClaudioProductionsXTheir draft is identical to many lck/lpl teams who won with the comp. It’s just a problem of how players execute the plan of the comp.
Peanut lvled up after many good games vs canyon. Meanwhile Oner is either skill gapped or inting
We live in a time where garen and nasus are being played in pro play
Reported for no anti-spoiler plant
Not me spoiling myself by mistakenly clicking my screen at the 50 minute mark. This series was so hard to watch gosh.
No spoiler plant really sucks
DK got 3-0'd by GenG... T1 got absolutley destroyed (AKA. not even close 3-0) by HLE... Caedrel gonna write his last wish and jump off a bridge 🤣😂
HLE will have to play like degenerates to win vs GenG. They're such good teamfighters, but GenG laps any team that tries to macro.
Yo dude you gotta moderate your mods during T1 games, You can write 3-0 KEKW and get timed out
Deserved tbh
You know how full of useless t1 hate the chat is. Literal degenerates. No point in discussion anymore if the entirety of league pro play discourse is "GenG is so goood woow".
Am a DK Rat just like Pedro but T1 hate iw probably the cringiest thing in this game
He won't otherwise he will lost his viewership by 60% - 70%.
If you didn't notice yet Caedrel is like LCK casters, they are so afraid to criticism T1
You have no idea how hard it must be to moderate chat during T1 games (especially recently with some of the drama).
Timing someone out for saying smth like that isnt justified ofcourse. But i doubt if you really got timed out for it or if you're just creating drama/overreacting.
T1 really trying to run back the Spring 2024 Playoffs script lol. T1 really saving riot with them viewerships.
Favourite meta this! You never know wtf you gonna get. Unless certain metas... *looking at you zeri lulu lucian nami" with renek/ornn azir/viktor
T1 when they encountered a team who actually plays with hands: 🤯
Time for another T1 Lower Bracket Run!
I like how LCK take a sudden u-turn on overusage of adc meta
From a 4-8 adc meta to a 1-2 adc meta again, while inserting some nasus garen mid picks
T1 doing that thing again w the lower bracket
Well, that was...certainly a game
Inhale copium and go next
GG to Hanhwa, I think there is no better Yone than Zeka's
Keria and Oner are playing like soloq and running it down 😂😂... Zeus doesn't knw what to when he is not super ahead.. Faker Guma can hardly do anything with JG SP getting outclassed
T1 are certainly out of form from what we've seen, but man I swear these games feel lost before we're even out of the draft screen. They are really struggling with the meta this season. Oner also just looked completely lost today
Dawg wheres my 🪴
ITS GIVING SPRING SPLIT LMAO
faker is going into retirement home
I gotta say, watching T1 struggle against Ziggs is kinda wild! 😂 It's like they forgot how to deal with him. And yeah, the thumbnail is fire, kinda makes me wanna watch just for that! 🎨✨
Best metal ever. Who needs fearless with this meta.
so at this point, what's the possibility for t1 to make Worlds?
Caedrel didnt use his ult on game 3, otherwise it was a t1 reverse sweep