North America Electric Locomotives - 1960s & 70s
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- This presentation features electric locomotives operating in North America (USA, Mexico, Canada) in the 1960s and 1970s. It includes scenes on the PRR, NYC, PC, South Shore, Milwaukee Road, CN, NdeM, Niagara Jct, etc. There is a short 8mm movie segment.
Those GG1's were massive and powerful for example they could handle up to 20 Passenger cars like a sack of feathers
Hi DKS225, They were monsters with 4620 hp. Some of the trains were double and triple-headed, so there was enormous power. Regards, tassiebaz.
From a Model Train magazine article on the GG1 some years back.
When they were new, the PRR took one out on the Philadelphia - Harrisburg section and ran tests with a dynamometer car. If I remember correctly, the G accelerated from 0 to 100 mph in 62 seconds and the calculated horsepower at the draw bar (coupler) was just under 10,000.
Another View 0 to 100 in 62 second that’s what my ford truck with a triton V8 does. Impressive !
@@tassiebaz 4620 hp it's quite low for an electric loco. There are electric locos that exceed 10.000 hp.
@@anotherview9604 That is just WILD, I mean that's during the 1930s when the average car would struggle to even do 60 for very long. Electric locos today are certainly impressive, but when weighed against its competitors during its own time, the GG-1 was practically the Starship Enterprise. What a machine.
Absouletely fantastic, thank you for uploading.
Hi RailFoamer, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I'm glad you liked the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. All the best for 2024. Cheers, tassiebaz.😃🚋
Such a shame most of the NdeM box cabs were scrapped. I always liked them. Seems like only 2 are preserved nowadays, one is in Orizaba, in front of the IMSS Hospital and the other one is in the railroad museum of Puebla. One used to be on Nogales, with no maintenance, just rusting away and being vandalized. Most of the copper inside was stolen. I had the opportunity to enter trough a "hatch" near the a pantograph and explore the interior. Ended being sold to a scrap metal company years later.
Hi Daniel, Thanks for watching and for your comment. It is a shame they were scrapped and I am very lucky to have seen them in limited action. I love the older equipment, and there is not much of it left to see, except in museums. If you are interested, have a look at my presentation at ua-cam.com/video/5zRLz8Dbqy4/v-deo.html to see some old steeplecabs that are still operating in the USA. Regards, tassiebaz.
I love all the (old) pics taken in The Bronx, NY. like the 138th St. (at the Grand Concourse) railroad station... Now Long Gone! (I grew up not too far from there and use to watch trains go by on that above street level station platform!) Not to be confused with the 138th St Grand Concourse IRT subway station that's definitely still there below street level, lol! Also at the 210th St. (Williams Bridge) station (15:05) you can see the Now Demolished, Long Gone 3rd Ave "EL" elevated structure on Gun Hill Rd (210th Street) in the back round! Brings back many memories! Thanks for posting this & stay safe!
Hi Harbor-McCann, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I am glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Have a look at my "New York City Transit Authority Rapid Transit Scenes" for a few more pictures of the 3rd Ave El in the Bronx. Stay well and all the best for 2021. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz Thank you! Great job and keep up the good work! Happy New Year and all the best to you too in 2021!
@@Harbormcann Thanks for your kind words. Hope you'll have a look at some of my other videos. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Great film. At about 16:53 into the film, a GG1 is pulling a Metro-liner. I believe those shots might have been taken in 1978. I awoke the morning of a rather large snowstorm to hear on KYW radio, that the Metro-Liners had been disabled by the snow and that GG1s had come to their rescue.
Hi Daniel, The GG1 pulling the Metroliner at Tacony was filmed in early 1974. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz Thanks for the clarification. I see that I posted a similar remark about a year ago. Man, getting old is tough.....LOL
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Amazing collection of photographs. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Jorge, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. I appreciate your kind words and am pleased to have been able to share them. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Wow! I again noticed the Now Demolished, Long Gone Third Ave "EL" elevated structure above the railroad tracks at the Fordham Rd railroad station. (in the Bronx, NY.) (12:53 - 13:04) If you look up and to your right you can see it quite clearly!
Hi very nice engine, and strong machine, I mist those trains friendly Jacques
I'm a French railways enthusiast and the electric traction is my prefered topic about USA railroads, particularly the Milwaukee line, but also the suburbans like the South Shore RR. Is there any book or website treating this subject ?
Hi jlbcatala, Thanks for watching and for your question. I just did a Google search on "Milwaukee Road Electric Locomotives" and another on "South Shore Railroad" and found numerous references which might interest you, so please have a look.
Have a look at www.american-rails.com/ef-1.html and donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr546.htm
Also, you may be interested in my UA-cam "Iowa Traction Railroad Scenes" video at
ua-cam.com/video/5zRLz8Dbqy4/v-deo.html. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Electric locos are some of my favorite locos because there way more powerful that diesal they have a over head socket that makes it so they don't have a limit they are times more powerful than diesal there like big boy level and that's really saying something they or like a dda40x I don't care how small there are they should have more power that a diesal or steam they're just not used much cause due to the overhead wire it could get hit or go out and no train or mostly for all they go really fast to fast for freight to be moving as a rule
@3:59 This is near 30th Street Station in Philadelphia.
It's what's known as the "high-line." A bypass bridge/line of 30th Street Station.
Hi Inquiring Mind, Thanks for watching and for your informative comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
That picture had me confused for a moment. It is looking west from 30th St, Station, on what is now JFK Boulevard. That is the old Bulletin Building on the left. The High Line is the freight line that runs South along the West bank of the Schuylkill River, passes through the Amtrak lines and yards at 30th St. Station, then through Drexel University/U of P campuses. It doesn't have any connection at all with 30th St. Station
Why in the 60's and 70's electric trains and trams got almost extinct in America?
because most electric locomotives during that time were already decades old. the gg1 was from the 1940s. the only electric loco from the 70s that survived until recent times were the aem7 toasters
It's what we railroaders call the rubber tire mafia. I was a student engineer/engineer on the NEC and ran those motors.
@@gordonvincent731 yes exactly this mafia can be blamed for the decline in trams and trains in the usa
Thanks for your kind reply. I don't think it's going to get any better, I'm glad I'm retired.
@@ToddKeck98 Not the 40. GG1 are from the 30s
I wish we in the USA had more miles of electrified railroad than we now have.
Hi Niels, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Agreed!!! What does Europe and parts of Asia know that the USA doesn't? Cheers, tassiebaz.
We used to have so many more but sadly the class one railroads are so horribly mismanaged I doubt it will ever happen unless the government steps in
I think at 4:01 your are standing near the 30th Street Station looking at the High Line and the PRR (or PC) Headquarters in the Food Fair Building?
Hi Scott, You are absolutely correct regarding the location. Regards, tassiebaz
Thanks for another great production of a time now gone!
Hi Scott, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation and share the nostalgia. Regards, tassiebaz.
Actually, I think that building on the left is the old Bulletin Building.
Thanks for posting, very interesting. I am looking for footage of Great Northern W1 class at work.? Any recommendations anyone please.!
Hi nigel, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I had a brief internet search and couldn't find any GN W1 class, except for a few stills. Have a look at www.gngoat.org. Maybe someone will know and reply with other information. Regards, tassiebaz.
Is there a backstory on the de railed gg1 at 19:36
Hi a random, Thanks for watching and for your comment. From what I remember, that derailment occurred in April, 1971, when a southbound freight train on the inner southbound track derailed about the same time the pictured GG1 was passing it on the outer southbound track, causing the scene in the presentation. Regards, tassiebaz.
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Great video ! At 16:55 the GG1 pulling a Metroliner. That must have been during a snowstorm in 1978. I recall waking up one morning and listening to KYW radio. The commentator mentioned specifically that GG1s were brought out to haul disabled Metroliners that had succumbed to the blizzard.
What can you tell us about the accident at 19:36 ?
Hi Daniel, Thanks for watching and for your comment. The GG1 pulling the Metroliner at Tacony was filmed in early 1974. Regarding the accident, it happened at the end of April, 1971, also near Tacony. As I recall, a southbound freight train on the inside track derailed and fouled the outside track just about the time that the southbound GG1-hauled passenger train was passing with disastrous results.
Regards, tassiebaz.
Wow, 1971, I was in-between the train hobby then. More interested in good times at the Jersey shore. I considered it my reward after hopping along the Ho Chi Minh trail.
@@GG1man, thanks for your service. Anybody that had to deal with the Ho Chi Minh trail deserved to relax when they got home.
Does anyone here know why American Electric locomotives of the 1960-1970s are different from West German Deutsche Bundesbahn electric locomotives of the same time which are operated by a tap changer. Furthermore does anyone know what American Electric locomotive operates through a tab changer like a German DB Baureihe 103 110.3 140 150 141.
Hi EpicThe112, Thanks for watching and for your question. I'm afraid the information you seek is beyond my level of knowledge. I did do an Internet search and found the following:
Pennsylvania Railroad Class GG1: Transmission AC current fed via a 22 position transformer tap changer to paired traction motors geared to a Quill drive.
Pennsylvania Railroad Class E44: Transmission 11 kV AC fed through a tap changer supplying 12 Mercury arc Ignitron tube rectifiers (later Silicon diode rectifiers) providing power to 6 DC traction motors.
I hope this helps and maybe someone else seeing this may be able to provide a more comprehensive response. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😃
Why are the wheels on American trains always too tall. They are so high above the ground.
Hi Bradley M, Thanks for watching and for your great question. It's my understanding the the size and shape/profile of the wheel has to do with keeping the train on the track, especially on curves. I have no technical expertise, so only offer this simple explanation. A Google of this would probably provide a wealth of knowledge. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Thanks, that's a great slide show. With the exception of the GG1, it's amusing how boxy and un-stylish these electric motors were, and the Penn's "funeral" black paint scheme doesn't help, especially compared to the vibrant colors of CN or Milwaukee. I see the EL-C here, the EF-1, the Little Joes, did I miss any EP-2s?
Hi ralfoide, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed the presentation. Unfortunately, I have no pictures of EP-2s. However, if you have time, have a look at my Iowa Traction Railroad presentation and also my Chile Railway Scenes presentation on UA-cam to see some very interesting older electric locomotives. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thanks for sharing this, though it could do with some narration.
Hi ssbohio, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I experimented with different kinds of presentations and, in the end, though some titles would be enough of an intrusion. Regards,, tassiebaz.
Do you have any clips of the Arrow ii MU cars? otherwise great video.
The NJT ones.
Hi sonicfan09, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I just had a quick look at my pictures and it seems I do have one photo of a NJT Arrow II at Harrison, NJ. I haven't published this yet as I intend to group it with other Silverliner-type / newer MU equipment. Regards, tassiebaz.
Any one knows what the obelisk is at 1:54? I see it when I travel on the corridor between Wilmington and Philadelphia.
Hi 3015 Pisca, I believe it is the Newkirk Monument, a 15-foot white marble obelisk, installed in 1839, to mark its completion of a bridge across the Schuylkill River and the first railroad line south from Philadelphia. It was located at 49th Street, but think it may have been moved closer to where the location of the bridge actually was. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz thank you for that information… I see that monument but we travel too fast for me to make out what it is…
@@tassiebaz I just found it on Wikipedia! Thanks again for the reply
@@Pisca-kk5cs Hi, Great that you found the information. It's an interesting story. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
19:37 Why is this mechanical cyclops on it's side ?
Hi Lincoln, The result of an unfortunate derailment. Thanks for watching. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Whats that little one at 2:25?
Hi IcePhoenixOfTime, Thanks for watching and for your question. That locomotive is a Penn Central boxcab, class B-1, built in 1926. It is pictured at Sunnyside Yard in Queens, NY, and was used primary for switching passenger cars. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz heya ty for the answer ^^ yeah i figured that its ben only used to move things in a yard but its so small and looks kinda unique and i like it ^^
My favorite was the P motors
Hi Ray, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. If you liked the P motors, have a look at my Chile Railway Scenes
(ua-cam.com/video/2MFRiG97XT4/v-deo.html) which you might find interesting. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
Is there any automated General Electric E50C's from Muskingum Electric Railroad
Hi The Mid-Night Club, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I can't find any reference to any E50C locomotives being around. I think there was only 2 of them. I never got to see their operation. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz thank you for comment and also love from japan! ( im japanese and in japan )
@@themid-nightclub6123 Greetings from Tasmania. I love Japan. I've been there several times. Please have a look at some of my transport videos at Japanese locations. I've also got several more I am working on. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz i will check those out and awesome! I want to go tasmania!
@@themid-nightclub6123 You would love it down here. Maybe you can visit one day.
Let me know if you enjoy the videos, and if there is anything you might like to see. I've got several I'm working on.
Is thwre a prr dd1?
Hi redsoxfan 15683, Thanks for watching and for your question. The Pennsylvania Railroad DD1 was a class of boxcab electric locomotives built by the Pennsylvania Railroad. The first locomotives entered service in 1910, with the opening of Pennsylvania Station, New York City. There were 66 of them, in 33 married pairs. DD1 locomotives operated off of 650 volt direct current from a third rail, and were used by the PRR into the 1930s. Regards, tassiebaz.
Il miss the deux montagnes line.
Hi Marc, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Cheers, tassiebaz.
the power of ellectric motor evolution in the great_growth where is it ??__archaicxn lord
Ever hear of the Milwaukee Road?
Hi Douglas, Thanks for watching and for your comment. There are some pictures of Milwaukee Road locomotives starting at 8:37. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
So years ago they made trains run by electric butt they are making a big deal out of making cars and trucks 2dsy rub by it in 2020 into the future.
Hi Kelvin, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
Не знаю, как внутри, но снаружи американские локомотивы - это верх уродства. Судя по всему, внешним дизайном там на заморачиваются вовсе.
Привет, Freddy22803, Спасибо за просмотр и за комментарий. Думаю, дизайнеров больше интересовала функциональность, чем внешний вид, и / или в их глазах, возможно, это были привлекательные машины. Оставайся в форме. Ура, тассиебаз.