How AREA 51 hides its secrets from the world
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
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Nestled deep within the Air Force's Nevada Test and Training Range, the remote and highly classified facility we've come to know as Area 51 has been the heart of secretive American aircraft programs - and a fair bit of modern folklore - for more than a half-century now.
Let's talk about how they manage to keep the cutting-edge programs they test away from the prying eyes of the public... and the spy satellites zooming overhead.
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Advanced "big roof over secret stuff" stealth tech
Advanced tactical stealth roof.
@NinjaRunningWild BFOSS has been around for months as of my time in writing this 28JUN2024. However, ATSR has never been confirmed to exist.
So if you're somebody to someone I would Edit that comment to protect your pets from Alphabets that may be concerned with how you know about that.
I'll see myself out.
- KGB furiously taking notes on advanced shed knowing Putin will call it too crazy and expensive. -
@@wolfbehemoth13 LOL.
Can't say that really sounds like the worst thing though.
Honestly would be nice if in some of these categories there is a little more practical and a little less advanced.
Being told you can't get Basic 782 Gear issued at your command or funding shortfalls stopping personnel from being able to train together in the field as a Unit; followed by all the hype in the media about everyone else in the world getting what they need can make morale and cohesion suffer.
Any number of circumstances and rationale case by case to go with that statement I made. But at its core, generally speaking it really kicks a Service Member in the dick when they aren't equipped by their Country but so many others are equipped by the same country that wouldn't take care of their own.
Now Yall can go into the Geo-Ally-Partnerizations that I fully understand, but I'll say it everytime for the sake of those I Lead. Give me my results, not excuses.
Manage my statements all you want on your keyboard rifle range with the All-CONUS mindset that effects too many people anymore.
For those that live in reality and seen highs and lows over 20 years time; going to take a whole lot of talking to make me back off that box.
To have a Leader that will not sacrifice keeping it Simple for waht could potentially waste Billions of Dollars I salute that. Don't budge that bottom line for your military if you genuinely expect them to also hold that same line on their day of days.
R/
MuffinMan
“Enemies hate this one easy trick!”
4:15 to skip the ad
Thanks, so anoying
God bless you homie😂🙏
Saint
UA-cam, doing something good occasionally, is pushing the jump ahead feature out rn on android. As much as I hate youtube at a buisness and political level as they blatantly cave to authoritarian pressures and even willing carry that water... I pay for premium because I can afford to and the creators need the work to be supported somehow
If you appreciate Alex's content, don't tell people to skip it. Doing the work he does to deliver such high-quality content costs money.
"With no way to refuel satellites..."
X-37 is too small to be a refueling platform (and its missions last anywhere from 1-2 years).
@@user-kl3lg7tf3n-anx1ous 227kg capacity isn't enough to refuel a spy satellite? Seriously? The spy satellites we were putting up in the in the 90's were 6-12 tons, so ~200kg of fuel would go a long way.
It's not carrying fuel that is the problem.
Satellites have not been designed to be refueled.
@piotrd.4850 don't be so sure it doesn't use alternative fuels
I can definitely see the engineers playing games with each other. Years ago i recall a story where engineers painted a huge radar dish with a giant smily face so it would be seen by soviet photo sats.
They should of painted the middle finger instead.
tried to find that online but no luck
@@sereuno5343 it was a story about a defense department radio telescope being turned over for civilian use. I think it was in the Carolina s.
I've always known it as "if it's stupid, but it works, it ain't stupid".
f it's stupid but it works, it's still stupid but it worked this time.
5:20 - With a bunch of friends, we got a peek into Groom Lake, from a closer ridge, only months before that area was annexed into Area 51, only a few months later, in 1993.
Area 51 is so well known that we put the really secret stuff in some other location.
TTR
@@major__kongwhat's ttr???please inform me?
@@major__kong You can almost walk right up to TTR.
The problem with that is spy satellites can see any location on earth, and large top secret planes that require a runway for testing and protected facilities, can't just hide anywhere. There are supposedly other secret sites similar to Area 51 that might exist, but they are likely all known by our adversaries.
Area 52
Some say Alex Hollings is based out of area 51 🤯
Some say Alex's beard is actually a high-freq antenna array that projects a mind control device through your smart phone.
(Sorry Alex. Just kidding😊)
I wouldn't be surprised. 😉
Dah look at the “background “ of his “studio”. Of course it is something like Area 51.
@@ejt3708He's still gonna melt you with his beardtenna
there are some leaked reports which confirm that Alex Hollings is actually one of the survivors of the UFO that was shot down near Roswell in 1948... 😜
22:40. That is literally just a shelter with an 'exotic' plane painted on top.
Why would they do that
That was my thought too.
Alex
I'm a 22 yrs US Navy Retired 3 tours Viet Nam Veteran ( Swift Boats & MSC's ) .
I really appreciate , & like all your videos. on your channel.
You deserve way more subscribers. Info and production quality alone should be enough, and you give way more than that. Great job man.
This is my favorite channel because the company I work for has products going to NGAD, F35, HERMEUS, SpaceX, and many other private space launches. I really like seeing positive articles about these companies developments before the mainstream media gets involved and starts complaining.
Yeah im a janitor at nasa but I don’t make satellites
This video earned an official UA-cam topical context information panel referencing the Area 51 wiki article, nice
“If it works, it isn’t stupid”. Great quote. Thanks, Alex!
The way I've heard it is a bit longer: If it's stupid and it works, then it ain't stupid.
reminds me of the story about the Marines that tricked a DARPA AI robot from detecting them by either doing only summersaults for 300 meters, or hiding under cardboard boxes to get closer to it... simple, not stupid. Oooo Raaaahhh
Gordon Cooper was one of the original Mercury 7. He was the last of them to fly, later (also) flying on Gemini 5 in 1965. He was also a semi-pro photographer. He was able to take a 35 mm camera with some good lenses up with him. When he landed, after Gemini 5, it took him a while to get his camera and film back. Seems he'd managed to snap the best, clearest pictures of Area 51 to that date. He explains this in "Leap of Faith," published in 2000.
If you haven't already read, I highly recommend "Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed" by Ben Rich (immediate successor to Kelly Johnson).
They do NOT tell anyone anything. I worked ARMY and I still don’t know several secrets that were common day things. We had two tasks 1) Keep the lights on 2) Keep the toilets 🚽 flushing.
My friend retired working the control tower at LAX. He got his start for the Air Force. His last assignment was Edwards AFB. Every month he had to do a stint working the tower at Area 51.
Was he directing UFO traffic at Area 51?
@@brianSalem541 I didn't ask because I know he could not tell. He did say the super secret stuff used the base in the Nevada nuke test site. Google earth it and you can see it.
@@brianSalem541 It's hard enough to convince human pilots to take directions from ATC, what do you think the odds are that a super advanced race of beings would listen to them? 🤣
I feel I have to take this opportunity to remind you of the XB-70 Valkyrie which flew at 3 times the speed of sound in the 1950s.
Would have been interesting to hear you tell the F117 origins story at the end, the last known black project produced by Groom Lake, June 18th 1981 first flight by Bill Park who was a successful property developer on the side but enjoyed his TOP SECRET work at 51!❤
Crashed and was badly injured, however less than a year later the first Production F117A was delivered🔥💪
A member of the RAF🇬🇧 (My Team) was selected as part of our special relationship to fly a Nighthawk from the very start 🚀
I dont really care what they're developing there. I just want to know what kind of sensors they use to know when people try to walk into the place from the desert lol.🤷♀️
Well hidden motion sensors that are disguised as the environment where people are most likely to walk? I'm not too sure.
IR scanner of some sort, maybe? Believe that's the type of tech that picks up body heat, but if anyone knows better, please correct me. I don't know how it would be deployed, maybe by satellite(s) in real time, I'd imagine?
I'm genuinely curious myself.
@@TLDE.0 I mean, I'm sure there's some of that. But I know a little about this kind of stuff and the lengths of wire would be so long it would be really, really difficult to make them work due to voltage drops. But given what they do at the place, I'm sure they have problems like that figured out.
I'd think simple motion detectors wouldn't work, tons of coyotes and rabbits etc. would be causing constant false alarms.
Infered cameras is my guess
It's been fixed satellite with wide spectrum imaging and AI image / targeting analysis for decades now.
@@LittleBigMediaCo They are not tracking trespassers on foot by satellite.
@Sandboxx One thing about Area-51 which everyone gets wrong, it's not called Area-51 but its actually designation is Area-48. Now Area-51 does have a association with aliens because Area-51 is in New Mexico it is where they tested the first nuclear bomb and it's right next to Roswell which is where the Area-51 myth came from. Now for those that don't believe me have a look online at aeronautical maps like at SkyVector and it will show the restricted airspaces and Neverdas Area-48.
First Lightning. Kind of a badass name
Excellent presentation Alex! Dreamland does have many, many secrets too. The book "Area 51 - Images of Aviation" by Peter Merlin doesn't hide anything. This excellent collection of historic photos taken not from above but from within the facility provides context to the incredible past of aviation development and to the future security of our nation that Dreamland has contributed to.
Another great video, thanks Alex!
I knew a pilot with South West Airlines who told me he would make flights from Los Vegas into Area 51 every so often. He never knew about the number of passengers or the cargo he might be carrying.
Great Episode Alex!! Love it.
A video about the X65 and active flow control would be cool.
As usual Alex, great job.
Love your videos Alex, thank you for what you've done and what you do
You’re going to skyrocket (No pun intended)… to 1 million subscribers. How professional and in-depth your videos are. Very good stuff, my friend very good stuff.
It required a federal judge to force the usaf to publicly acknowledge the site exists
Hosing down parking spots would be the simplest and most elegant solution, and it looks like they are doing so.
Infrared images are made by temperature differences on a surface leaving a silhouette. Even if the surfaces are hosed down, it won't cool down at the same rate and can be picked up by IR camera. I am not sure hosing down is as effective as cardboard fake planes and other methods
@@hydrolifetech7911 What if they used hot water? 60 or 70 C?
it might work if they weren't in the middle of a desert. Alternately, they could hose it down with toilet water, but I doubt the staff would particularly love that. Seems like a tarp is simpler
It is crazy how many structures are on that facility now. I was stationed at Edwards AFB for 4 years and area 51 looks to have much more hanger space.
The US Army just chose General Dynamics and Rheinmetall as finalists for the 4000 Bradley replacement IFVs (a year ago).
Could you do a Firepower series video about this program, the two finalists and the other three that dropped out. Or more generally the current state of IFVs (Bradley, CV90, Puma, Lynx) and their most likely future. Maybe even including anti air IFVs like some CV90 variants and SkyRanger.
First you post times to skip the sponsor, and now you have the cheek to post requests. Unbelievable. You could just be the most entitled person using UA-cam.
Great story! Thanks for the content you produce!
I was doing Annual Training at Fort Polk, Louisiana last year and the days before we headed back to my unit in Texas we had to take our vehicles to the yard and get them hooked onto the civilians 18 wheelers so they could get taken back for us I had met a gentleman named Micheal. We were talking about our careers and I asked how he liked being a contractor for the Military. One of the things brought up is the places he’s gone. He pulls out his phone and shows me a pic of his truck load it’s a destroyed Russian jet and he was taking it to Area 51. Of course in the pic he was miles away from it but on the way he stopped to get pic.
Small correction Alex, in regards to on-orbital satellite refueling (emphasis, my own):
_"The first refueling tests between two satellites began in _*_March 2007._*_ At the time, DARPA launched and deployed its Orbital Express satellite. The satellite consisted of two satellites DARPA used to test docking, undocking, repair, and refueling procedures. _*_The mission was successful."_*
The article is behind a paywall I think (at the very least, requires an account to login with), so I can't quote more than what Google provided.
Which on that note... Google AI Overview of that very same article, claims the first successful instance was actually in _2003..._ I'm more apt to trust their conventional result's snippets though.
Those are just TESTS though, which I'm pretty sure there's also been fast more recent ones by commercial companies... But outside of that, you're not wrong, as we've not had any accomplished via an offered service, neither private nor commercial.
Great episode!
Alex, what is the story on the B52J upgrade, please? Thank you!
The War Zone is now making UA-cam videos and just did an amazing video covering it
Very cool, as always. Thank you, Alex
You have a very good idea of what we want to hear about. F-22 Raptor so cool...
IIRC, fhe U-2 was "Angel", so its successor was "Archangel".
This was really, really well done!
As usual incredibly informative.
Greetings from Cheyenne Mountain.
The new Area 51/52 is the all new massively expanded Cheyenne Mountain Space Force Station, formerly known as as NORAD which has moved to building one basement bunker at near by Peterson Air/Space Force Base.
New within, above and below infrastructure in every category.
🎖️🙏🤗🏆
Thank you for sharing this
Great Job Alex
Alex: "Ne-vah-dah" 😂😂
"UNLV associate history professor Michael Green told The New York Times that Ne-VAD-uh (with the second syllable rhyming with mad) is the standard pronunciation with locals, while saying Ne-VAH-duh (second syllable rhymes with spa) will expose you as a foreigner to the state."
--- great vid Alex, good stuff as always.
Good job Alex H.
Alex. Am happy you are making videos. Hope your procedure was highly successful.
david
beautiful episode. Area 51 will always be fascinating
Australian Woomera or Maralinga test sites.... a video on that would be great. Pine Gap is north of there too.
*AREA 51 HAS BECOME SELF-AWARE. HIDE IN YOUR BUNKERS IMMEDIATELY.*
Please do a video on the next generation interceptor
As a former alien, I find this video accurate.
I thought "ash cans" were used to dispose of wood/coal ash used for most heating and power plants at the time and trash cans used for trash.
"a very unusual aircraft" it looks like a grippin to me
There is also buses that go to groom lake daily from Vegas. Meaning you can get there via ground too.
For folks looking for more excellent history on A51, the U2, oxcart, and sr71 program, annie Jacobsons book on area 51 is excellent!
How did the contractors produce that much concrete? Was all that water available underground or was all that water transported in? (A logistical challenge since a pipeline is too public a thing to build)
There are fairly large aquifers under most of Nevada. One of the worries with placing a nuclear waste repository at Yucca Mountain, which is near Area 51, was that if any of it were to leak there is a potential for it to contaminate the aquifer under Amargosa Valley, which has about 1400 or so people using it.
The Nevada testing range was divided into a numbered grid. Groom Lake is in Area %1 on the grid. Most of the testing took place in Area 44, I think.
You know what would be great...if the engineers make some cardboard silhouettes of some flying saucers and other exotic craft and leave them in the opening for the adversaries satellites to catch photos of...that would drive them crazy ...it will keep them guessing like it's a pop quiz😂😂😂
That would work for photos, but lots of spy satellites use radar instead/also
Lockheed Skunkworks built the SR-72 for Top Gun Maverick. This aircraft sitting outside their hangar resulted in at least one spy satellite re-directing it's orbit... permanently.
Great episode.
Instead of doing all that cardboard shit and heater stuff, they could just sprayed water on the floor. like extremely cold water. or some type of liquid nitro or something and "erased" or muddy up the silhouette. Correct me if im wrong.
In the Air Force, it's 'If it works, don't fuck with it.'
I've got news for you, the really secret stuff has likely, for some time, been happening at the Woomera test range in South Australia - the worlds largest aerial test range. A few years ago the Chinese tried to buy a parcel of Stations (big ranches) owned by an agricultural company, because one of them sat right next to Woomera. They were not allowed to make the purchase.
Secrecy at Woomera is unsurpassed, given it's remote location and extremely sparse local population distribution.
You can drive through the Woomera range.....
What looks like one of the AI drones that you showed us on an earlier NGAD-focused video has been photographed and is now on the NUFORC website, NUFORC UFO Sighting 181991.
Looks very like its CGI rendering, so your information sources are bang on!
12:50 just 8 days to finish an oversized, aircraft grade, runway and it takes YEARS for public works to fix a street.
Awesome one!
Very interesting.
Quite the amazing story full of measures, counter-measures, and repeat again.
@22:40, looks very similar to a Saab Draken.
Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah is where all the real fun got moved to in the 90s
Aliens: You're not top secret to us Area 51. You know we see you all and everything, right?
An ash can is a cylindrical tall ash tray, not a trash can. Trash cans back then were referred to as rubbish buns, barrels etc.
Lived in Rachel, Nevada for about a year. We would go out to the "mail box" at night hoping to see something like a laser light show or whatever. Mostly we saw "Janet" flights coming in and out. But with so little ambient light you could see satellites passing over and yes you can tell the difference from an aircraft and a satellite.
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My take away is Aliens are watching ground news as they build tech for the military
If you haven't read it, I highly recommend its history, "Dreamland". It is a big "doorstop" of a book and is a thorough history of Area 51.
There's nothing at Area 51. The good stuff is at Area 52. Behind that gravel pit just outside of Terre Haute.
You forgot about the underground part, that takes advantage of the mines around those mountains. There’s also S4…
Easy I know exactly how they do it, "Aliens." Lmao!
I just conducted some test flights in the Atreides Ornithopter right there... :D
thnk you sir
pretty sure that tent not hiding the aircraft, is actually hiding an aircraft with a painted top... seems fairly easy to surmise this by their other tactics
Alex, that's Murphy's first law of combat. If it's stupid but it works, ITS NOT STUPID.
I always dreamed about having a RC Jet plane loaded with sensors and cameras with a live feed to a base. And flying the RC plane into Area 51.
What's on the tarmac at Area 51 is cool and all. But what's under some of the other areas nearby is... well... much cooler.
Why is Area 51 also called Edwards Air force Base when Area 51 is in Nevada and Edwards in California?
The F-16's intercepting the 9-11 hijacked plane didn't already have ammo loaded for the cannon?
No. In 2001 the US would not allow Air Guard aircraft to be armed. They were not* even allowed to posses any weapons or ammunition. And they were tasked with protecting the capital.
Hi Justin: Good info. I figured if they weren't armed it had to be something along the lines of what you explained. Just like a firearm without ammo., it's pretty much useless unless it's used as a bludgeoning device. Which is exactly what they were trying to use those F-16's for. Thanks for the info.
Great video. Could you do an episode on the “Open Skies” agreement the US had with our near peers. It deals with adversarial nations’ aircraft are allowed to overfly our territory with recon aircraft.
Much of the classified work is underground. Being far from prying eyes has a different meaning these days.
Do you know the locations?
@@TywinLannister0 Nope. Arizona is pretty big, though.
Will you cover the retrofits the USAF is conducting on the B-17 bomber to convert it into a stealth profile?
holy shit, didn't know about those F16 pilots 😲. that's dedication.
Advanced Capability Strategic Concealment Cover System (ADSCCS), AKA "the roof"
Great video! Tony LeVier’s name is pronounced “le-VEER”.
You need to do a retrospective on Tony LeVier. He has quiite the life story.
Those are some HUGE runways
We did not call it Janet back in the day and our name for it was Dreamland lol