100 watts is 100 watts . The only difference between a 100 watt Poly panel and a mono panel is the size of the panel . They both are capable of making their rated power but the Poly being just a little bit less efficient will need a few more inches of surface area to make the same power as the mono panel . If space is a concern then go with the Mono panels if you want a lower price go with the Poly . Both work great !
The Panels was shaded. The Mono-Panels dont like to be shaded partly. The cells are all in series. The Allpowers are 2 Panels in parralel. Thats why the allpowers perform better in partitial shade. (sorry for my bad english) ^^ But i like that kind of Videos. Thanks :)
I don't think you can have a price comparison without discussing the fact that the less expensive panels have a PET coating, and the more expensive panels have an ETFE coating. Completely different in terms of long-term UV, heat resistance, and mechanical abrasion resistance and accounts for nearly 50% of the price difference.
Yeah despite some of the complaints I've read about the snap on legs, I actually like having the flexibility to switch them around when necessary so i can position the cable bag closer to the power station when I need it on one side or the other to keep it in the shade.
I bought a Vtoman 1500 and just ordered an All power 200w today. I also have a Jackery 1000 and 100w solar saga 100. I paid $204 each for both the Jackery and Allpowers. Your reviews have really been educational and helpful in deciding what to order.
For on the move camping set ups, the foldable panel work well because they can be positioned to face the sun and stow easily. All Powers products serve my needs for an occasional user, who is price driven.
This is VERY useful. We are getting close to pulling the trigger on travel requiring a battery and various ways to charge it. Thanks for your research, and noticeable ability to locate different alternatives!
I have the AllPowers 140w foldable panel and got similar results as you did. I usually get 70-80w out of them on a somewhat sunny day. I figure it is comparable to a high quality 100w panel. I bought it at a good price similar to a higher quality 100w panel so I think it is a good deal.
looks like a half of video deserved just half of like. Poly panels must beat mono panels on early morning or late sun conditions and winter condition as well by gathering reflections from snow. Here polycrystalline structure has more efficiency.
Jackery has always had a problem when using other solar panels and for that reason I will never have one as there is no need for solar panels to be priority.
Interesting, I'm researching panels now and had an interest in Allpowers as I had seen a comparison on cost per watt that was very favorable among 9 other panels. The mono v. poly results were exciting as well. Seems like your test results were pretty much what most car campers like me would experience so good news. What is your opinion on refurbished panels? I'm on a tight budget and had seen some really good deals on the 200w on eBay, where I found my refurbished EB3A power station for just $146.
1 140w, 3 100 w, and 1 100w "baggable" folding blanket type. I have tested them all on my pecron.... I have had no problems with the panels but huge problems with their s500 and s700.
I bought two of the Allpowers 100 watt panels for a road trip to Greece (this summer '22). Within a matter of weeks one panel failed completely, outputting nothing. The second panel stopped working on one side a few weeks later. In full Greek sunshine in July/August I never got more than 60-65 watts from these panels (before they quit working entirely). Allpowers refunded me but the experience was just one big pain in the neck. Once refunded I took a Stanley knife to the panels to see if I could see an issue below the surface. Broken wires and connectors inside and flimsy cabling and connectors. The build quality of these products is terrible. Have since moved on to Bluetti panels and they work brilliantly! Allpowers products are downright unreliable.
It could certainly withstand rainy weather and being left out for days or even weeks continuously, provided you staked it down or otherwise attached it to something to prevent very strong winds from knocking it down. That said, I don't think you'd want leave any folding panel permanently mounted outside for months at a time....If you're going to do that, you really should be looking at a rigid panel. Cheaper...and designed for permanent mounting.
I’m in Italy and considering the 200w allpowers panel separate and the eb3a but needed to know if I would be missing cables or if they were even compatible, I’m definitely a noob!
I need 800w trying to find affordable way to charge my battery, and how to hook up. The more I learn the more confused I am. I have a 110w - ? do I need 6 more 110w - ? or is there a better way to go?
I’m waiting on delivery of my 2000w Ctechi , after reading some reviews I guess I’m going to wait to see what I can use , I’d like to get the 200w all Powers but I’m not sure of the connections, thanks for the video. Any thoughts would be appreciated 🙂
I just purchased a new Allpowers 200 watt monocrystaline panel, and it doesnt come with a charge controller, is it necessary, and why doesn't Allpowers include one?
They don't include a charge controller because it really depends on what you're going to use it with. The most common application for a portable panel is to pair it with a portable power station which has a charge controller built-in.
I'd be interested to know what foldable panels you'd recommend for hooking together in series. I have a Bluetti 200 max with a 120 wat panel which can't be combined in series. I'd like to get up to around 400 watts so I can charge more quickly.
Look at the shade line over the panel how can you get an accurate wattage efficiency? You need to do the video over again with no shade lines whatsoever from the trees.
I just both the 200w panel with the coupon code ($216.75 with free shipping) and way cheaper if you buy in the actual site vs on Amazon. I'm not sure how long will be ship in my location, the company I pay is from China.
I will say that the AllPowers panels are VERY thin. Still, as long as you're not throwing them around and piling heavy objects on them in storage, I dont find that to be much of a concern.
I tried the ALLPOWERS portable and see around 280/290 at most so far. Not sure what else I have to do in order to get more unless I get it much closer to the sun LOL
I just ordered the Jackery 200 Pro and 2 AllPowers 200w Solar panels. Am I going to need more connectors or will Allpowers send me what I need to plug both into the Jackery 2000 Pro?
Looks you'll need a couple things since the 1500 and 2000 Jackerys have DC8020 inputs. You will want to get the optional Jackery adapter cable that has DC8020 ports. Then you should also ask them to include 2 adapter connectors to convert the 8mm male on the solar panels to the DC8020 male so you can connect the panels to their parallel adapter
This probably a silly question, but can you use a 200 watts panel on a generator that only supports up to 120 watt panels? The voltage is within the generator's recommended range. I realize I wouldn't get more than 120 watts from the 200 watt panel, just curious if it would cause issues with the generator.
Not a silly question. You definitely can. Shouldn't cause a problem as long as your power station's (charge controller) max voltage limit is not being exceeded.
I bought the Jackery Explorer 1000 bundle with the solar saga panels (2 ea). I know very little ablout solar Question is: could I get one of the All Powers panels and use its Anderson plug to plug it into the Explorer 1000 while concurrently using the solar sagas (using the Jackery included splitter via the 8mm plug) to charge faster? Or is there a cap on how much solar input at a time that I can channel to the Explorer 1000? Thank you!
Unfortunately 2 issues there: the E1000 only accepts input from either the Anderson, OR the 8mm, but not both. Also, the DC input max is fairly low on the E1000 so you prob wouldn't see any benefit at all from a 3rd panel, even if you could connect it.
You can....BUT I definitely wouldn't recommend that because combining 2 panels with significant differences in output will effectively 'dumb-down' the higher output panel to match the output of the smaller panel. So in addition to there really not being much to gain, you also run the risk of damaging the smaller panel over time. This is why you really want to only connect panels with similar output specs.
It's kind of apples vs oranges. If you need easy portability/packability, AllPowers is a solid choice. If you need permanent mount outside, ultra weather resistant, the BougeRV is definitely the better choice.
Like you I like to see a review in full sun. I'm satisfied though with this review since he compared the Jackery panel output to the others under the same conditions which are which are the conditions I can expect a good deal of the time in North Carolina.
I'm not aware of any differences between mono-- and poly- panels in terms of environmental impact. If anyone else has information on this, hopefully they can comment on that.
It's a fair criticism. But really, it's more stable than you'd think when you take the extra minute to attach the bottom straps on the legs back to the panel.
Are you sponsored by Jackery..... because everyone knows the solar saga IS NOT any more efficient than similar solar panels costing $100 less. I have Harbor freight solar panels that cost less than 1/2 the solar saga and give me the same amount of watts. What say you Judus?
Hahaha! Absolutely not. And it's kind of funny that you even say that since I seem to go out of my way to give people better alternatives to Jackery (just read some of video thumbnails!) I do own the Jackery E1000 and the Solar Saga 100W and purchased both with my own money - Jackery has given me nothing. That said, I actually DO find that the Jackery 100W panel consistently produces 8-10% more output than most other 100W panels I compare it to, under the same conditions. But I can't justify their cost being typically upwards of 50% higher - which is why I've done several videos promoting what I think are better all-around options.
100 watts is 100 watts . The only difference between a 100 watt Poly panel and a mono panel is the size of the panel . They both are capable of making their rated power but the Poly being just a little bit less efficient will need a few more inches of surface area to make the same power as the mono panel . If space is a concern then go with the Mono panels if you want a lower price go with the Poly . Both work great !
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The Panels was shaded. The Mono-Panels dont like to be shaded partly. The cells are all in series. The Allpowers are 2 Panels in parralel. Thats why the allpowers perform better in partitial shade. (sorry for my bad english) ^^ But i like that kind of Videos. Thanks :)
I don't think you can have a price comparison without discussing the fact that the less expensive panels have a PET coating, and the more expensive panels have an ETFE coating. Completely different in terms of long-term UV, heat resistance, and mechanical abrasion resistance and accounts for nearly 50% of the price difference.
I’ve been using the 200w allpowers for the last few months and have found it to work well, producing more power than I used.
Yeah despite some of the complaints I've read about the snap on legs, I actually like having the flexibility to switch them around when necessary so i can position the cable bag closer to the power station when I need it on one side or the other to keep it in the shade.
What kind of temps are you using your panel in? In AZ 80 watts in the best it gets with the panel being cool. After hearing up it goes to 35w or so
I bought a Vtoman 1500 and just ordered an All power 200w today. I also have a Jackery 1000 and 100w solar saga 100. I paid $204 each for both the Jackery and Allpowers. Your reviews have really been educational and helpful in deciding what to order.
For on the move camping set ups, the foldable panel work well because they can be positioned to face the sun and stow easily. All Powers products serve my needs for an occasional user, who is price driven.
This is VERY useful. We are getting close to pulling the trigger on travel requiring a battery and various ways to charge it. Thanks for your research, and noticeable ability to locate different alternatives!
Thanks sooo much!!! I have the 100 watts of these, but just ordered the 200watt ones for 216$ with your code! Thanks soo much, Amazon wanted 280$
The mono is like 20% smaller so...
I got the ALLPOWERS 100 for like $130 and I am happy. Thank you for this video.
Glad I stumbled on your channel :) useful info, and love the clear delivery.
Thank you so much for the kind words! :)
I have the AllPowers 140w foldable panel and got similar results as you did. I usually get 70-80w out of them on a somewhat sunny day. I figure it is comparable to a high quality 100w panel. I bought it at a good price similar to a higher quality 100w panel so I think it is a good deal.
You also might be getting limited on the input power from your Power Station, depending on which one you're using. A lot of these units in the
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I have an Ecoflow River Pro which is supposed to accept 200W of solar. This panel works for me as is. Thanks!
Unfair a bit test, though it was unintended, 9:45 it's clearly visible that Sunpower is visually shaded from some three.
excellent review, thank you for taking the time👍👍
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looks like a half of video deserved just half of like. Poly panels must beat mono panels on early morning or late sun conditions and winter condition as well by gathering reflections from snow. Here polycrystalline structure has more efficiency.
Jackery has always had a problem when using other solar panels and for that reason I will never have one as there is no need for solar panels to be priority.
Interesting, I'm researching panels now and had an interest in Allpowers as I had seen a comparison on cost per watt that was very favorable among 9 other panels. The mono v. poly results were exciting as well. Seems like your test results were pretty much what most car campers like me would experience so good news. What is your opinion on refurbished panels? I'm on a tight budget and had seen some really good deals on the 200w on eBay, where I found my refurbished EB3A power station for just $146.
1 140w, 3 100 w, and 1 100w "baggable" folding blanket type. I have tested them all on my pecron.... I have had no problems with the panels but huge problems with their s500 and s700.
What is the warranty on each of the panels?
I bought two of the Allpowers 100 watt panels for a road trip to Greece (this summer '22). Within a matter of weeks one panel failed completely, outputting nothing. The second panel stopped working on one side a few weeks later.
In full Greek sunshine in July/August I never got more than 60-65 watts from these panels (before they quit working entirely).
Allpowers refunded me but the experience was just one big pain in the neck.
Once refunded I took a Stanley knife to the panels to see if I could see an issue below the surface.
Broken wires and connectors inside and flimsy cabling and connectors. The build quality of these products is terrible.
Have since moved on to Bluetti panels and they work brilliantly!
Allpowers products are downright unreliable.
Would the All Powers withstand the weather conditions if they were left outside continuous?
It could certainly withstand rainy weather and being left out for days or even weeks continuously, provided you staked it down or otherwise attached it to something to prevent very strong winds from knocking it down. That said, I don't think you'd want leave any folding panel permanently mounted outside for months at a time....If you're going to do that, you really should be looking at a rigid panel. Cheaper...and designed for permanent mounting.
No folding panel is design for a permanent solution and I wouldn't leave them outside for days.
I’m in Italy and considering the 200w allpowers panel separate and the eb3a but needed to know if I would be missing cables or if they were even compatible, I’m definitely a noob!
ua-cam.com/video/c_6FdDryt48/v-deo.html. I recently posted this video to help people understand exactly what you're asking ;)
I need 800w trying to find affordable way to charge my battery, and how to hook up. The more I learn the more confused I am. I have a 110w - ? do I need 6 more 110w - ? or is there a better way to go?
I’m waiting on delivery of my 2000w Ctechi , after reading some reviews I guess I’m going to wait to see what I can use , I’d like to get the 200w all Powers but I’m not sure of the connections, thanks for the video. Any thoughts would be appreciated 🙂
I just purchased a new Allpowers 200 watt monocrystaline panel, and it doesnt come with a charge controller, is it necessary, and why doesn't Allpowers include one?
They don't include a charge controller because it really depends on what you're going to use it with. The most common application for a portable panel is to pair it with a portable power station which has a charge controller built-in.
I'd be interested to know what foldable panels you'd recommend for hooking together in series. I have a Bluetti 200 max with a 120 wat panel which can't be combined in series. I'd like to get up to around 400 watts so I can charge more quickly.
Look at the shade line over the panel how can you get an accurate wattage efficiency? You need to do the video over again with no shade lines whatsoever from the trees.
Is this foldble panels avilble in the middile east market.we need this foldble panels here
I just both the 200w panel with the coupon code ($216.75 with free shipping) and way cheaper if you buy in the actual site vs on Amazon. I'm not sure how long will be ship in my location, the company I pay is from China.
I'm pretty sure they have stock in the US for distribution so shouldn't take long, I wouldn't think.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thank you!
I purchased a 100 and then realized it said China, but when they shipped out and shipped out from California then I got it within a week.
I got my Solar today and it's really good quality, they updated the legs and it's more wider with rubber to secured when you open all the way.
Hey. Can you use if half folded in case there is no space?
Not really. I suspect the output would be so small as to be pointless unless all of the panels are getting light.
Is there any difference in the durability or resilience to breaking?
I will say that the AllPowers panels are VERY thin. Still, as long as you're not throwing them around and piling heavy objects on them in storage, I dont find that to be much of a concern.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Ok but I meant generally poly crystals vs mono crystals like maybe one takes a bit of bending better than the other one
I tried the ALLPOWERS portable and see around 280/290 at most so far. Not sure what else I have to do in order to get more unless I get it much closer to the sun LOL
What power station (or charge controller) are you pairing them with?
@@ReeWrayOutdoors ecoflow delta pro
I just ordered the Jackery 200 Pro and 2 AllPowers 200w Solar panels. Am I going to need more connectors or will Allpowers send me what I need to plug both into the Jackery 2000 Pro?
Looks you'll need a couple things since the 1500 and 2000 Jackerys have DC8020 inputs. You will want to get the optional Jackery adapter cable that has DC8020 ports. Then you should also ask them to include 2 adapter connectors to convert the 8mm male on the solar panels to the DC8020 male so you can connect the panels to their parallel adapter
This probably a silly question, but can you use a 200 watts panel on a generator that only supports up to 120 watt panels? The voltage is within the generator's recommended range. I realize I wouldn't get more than 120 watts from the 200 watt panel, just curious if it would cause issues with the generator.
Not a silly question. You definitely can. Shouldn't cause a problem as long as your power station's (charge controller) max voltage limit is not being exceeded.
Thanks, I haven't been able to find a clear answer on that before. Much appreciated 😀
I bought the Jackery Explorer 1000 bundle with the solar saga panels (2 ea). I know very little ablout solar Question is: could I get one of the All Powers panels and use its Anderson plug to plug it into the Explorer 1000 while concurrently using the solar sagas (using the Jackery included splitter via the 8mm plug) to charge faster? Or is there a cap on how much solar input at a time that I can channel to the Explorer 1000? Thank you!
Unfortunately 2 issues there: the E1000 only accepts input from either the Anderson, OR the 8mm, but not both. Also, the DC input max is fairly low on the E1000 so you prob wouldn't see any benefit at all from a 3rd panel, even if you could connect it.
Can I connect my Solar Saga 100 with my Allpowers 200w to charge my Jackery 1000 and Vtoman 1500?
You can....BUT I definitely wouldn't recommend that because combining 2 panels with significant differences in output will effectively 'dumb-down' the higher output panel to match the output of the smaller panel. So in addition to there really not being much to gain, you also run the risk of damaging the smaller panel over time. This is why you really want to only connect panels with similar output specs.
Your opinion on the allpowers solar panels vs the bougeRV panels. New to solar and trying to sort this out.
Thanks
It's kind of apples vs oranges. If you need easy portability/packability, AllPowers is a solid choice. If you need permanent mount outside, ultra weather resistant, the BougeRV is definitely the better choice.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thanks for your reply
Why not wait for clear conditions to give good info?
Like you I like to see a review in full sun. I'm satisfied though with this review since he compared the Jackery panel output to the others under the same conditions which are which are the conditions I can expect a good deal of the time in North Carolina.
Any links to bluetti Eb70s??
Is one more environmentally friendly?
I'm not aware of any differences between mono-- and poly- panels in terms of environmental impact. If anyone else has information on this, hopefully they can comment on that.
We've been getting more watts out from polycrystaline fwiw
Flimsy legs make it not worth it.
It's a fair criticism. But really, it's more stable than you'd think when you take the extra minute to attach the bottom straps on the legs back to the panel.
I just received mine today my 200w Solar panel and they updated the permanent legs more wider and non removable with secured rubber straps
They updated the legs. You can see the new ones in this review:
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The one I received had the new legs too.
Another caveat... know your solar generator... my pecron won't charge unless you have 30-95 volts feeding in.
Excellent point! I'll try and reinforce that idea in future videos since it IS very important to understand.
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Are you sponsored by Jackery..... because everyone knows the solar saga IS NOT any more efficient than similar solar panels costing $100 less. I have Harbor freight solar panels that cost less than 1/2 the solar saga and give me the same amount of watts. What say you Judus?
Hahaha! Absolutely not. And it's kind of funny that you even say that since I seem to go out of my way to give people better alternatives to Jackery (just read some of video thumbnails!) I do own the Jackery E1000 and the Solar Saga 100W and purchased both with my own money - Jackery has given me nothing. That said, I actually DO find that the Jackery 100W panel consistently produces 8-10% more output than most other 100W panels I compare it to, under the same conditions. But I can't justify their cost being typically upwards of 50% higher - which is why I've done several videos promoting what I think are better all-around options.