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  • @xavnqesh1416
    @xavnqesh1416 Рік тому +1930

    Hats off to this pianist, who is finding the correct keys. That's probably the biggest challenge in the pianist's side.

    • @Targoon_Music
      @Targoon_Music Рік тому +48

      i can almost certainly say that she is only relying on her muscle memory from a normal piano since looking at the keys just makes it worse

    • @aarong9128
      @aarong9128 Рік тому +7

      Use your ears. Pros have pro ears.

    • @xavnqesh1416
      @xavnqesh1416 Рік тому +2

      Yeah.

    • @savonliquide7677
      @savonliquide7677 Рік тому +1

      Is it a joke?

    • @thephoenixsystem6765
      @thephoenixsystem6765 Рік тому +3

      "it wasn't a mistake I was shifting modes"

  • @MofosOfMetal
    @MofosOfMetal Рік тому +486

    This all-white piano really makes us appreciate the black keys more. Beginners tend to fear black keys and reading key-signatures with many sharps and flats... but without them, we have no frame of reference for where we are - both on a visual level and a tactile one.
    If I were to be blind-folded and tasked to either play an all-white or all-black keyboard - I'd go all-black because at least you'd always know where you are from the groupings of 2/3 black keys.

    • @X22GJP
      @X22GJP Рік тому +8

      Or you could just learn to play and develop muscle memory like oh, I dounno', Theremin players and trombone players, or any other instrument where your only point of reference is the note(s) you are currently playing and how far away the next one is.

    • @Thestuffdoer
      @Thestuffdoer Рік тому +7

      @@X22GJPthis is why i’m a keyboardist

    • @littlewishy6432
      @littlewishy6432 Рік тому +19

      @@X22GJPWhat do you get out of talking down on well-reasoned pianists? Do you enjoy doing it?

    • @Gazeld
      @Gazeld Рік тому +2

      @@littlewishy6432 He just has a point. It is indeed be a different way of playing piano and locating the notes, more like we play other instruments without separated notes, and also as some blind pianist do.

    • @ambienthangout
      @ambienthangout Рік тому +2

      @@X22GJP A piano is substantially more distance to cover. Sometimes you have to play all the way at one end or the other and if your muscles are starting to draw tight during a performance (as they do), then your "muscle memory" of where that next chord is can be negatively impacted, drawing you up short, or causing you to overcompensate and go long. It's just different for piano players.

  • @Piano-Love
    @Piano-Love Рік тому +3970

    Black keys don’t just allow songs to be played in different keys but they also provide definition to know where you are on the piano.

    • @angelicamartacahyaningtyas9083
      @angelicamartacahyaningtyas9083 Рік тому +207

      Exactly. This piano scares me because I don't know which one is what. I need to write the note names on the clavier, at least to mark the Cs and Fs like harp strings.

    • @colinbudd5840
      @colinbudd5840 Рік тому +36

      I’m gonna get myself a felt tip pen

    • @tomerbrosilow5402
      @tomerbrosilow5402 Рік тому +9

      Not true - you can put stickers to know where you are.....

    • @stuart6478
      @stuart6478 Рік тому +1

      and the world. I totally hear you

    • @fd9987
      @fd9987 Рік тому +8

      Yeah I play the harp, too. I’d be lost without red Cs and black Fs.

  • @morbidmanmusic
    @morbidmanmusic Рік тому +21

    less is not always more, at least musically. It offers nothing but a technique shift. All this can be done on a traditional piano. like others noted.. the pianist is the magic here.

  • @orangeflames05
    @orangeflames05 Рік тому +2544

    As an aspiring pianist this looks like a pain to play with having to be able to navigate the keyboard without the black keys.

    • @JamesSmith-qu4yf
      @JamesSmith-qu4yf Рік тому +156

      As a professional pianist, I would say the exact same thing 😂

    • @rbrtck
      @rbrtck Рік тому +30

      Maybe there is some kind of subtle cue, like tiny bumps on or notches cut out of certain keys. Not that I believe much thought went into this publicity stunt.

    • @adrianwright8685
      @adrianwright8685 Рік тому +6

      Easy enough to put a small mark near all the A's say. And there are nearly 50% less keys!

    • @rbrtck
      @rbrtck Рік тому +28

      @@adrianwright8685 I don't think having fewer keys helps in this case. The missing 36 not only complete the chromatic scales, they serve as the visual and tactile "map" or guide for the entire width of the keyboard. If you only want to play the white keys on a regular piano keyboard for any reason, then you could always do that without removing the black keys. Their omission only makes the piano both far less versatile and harder to play.

    • @lucianoalbrechtbroboski6154
      @lucianoalbrechtbroboski6154 Рік тому +16

      ​@@rbrtck Without the black keys, the piano loses its sound richness. I think that even when you play a white key, the black key's strings vibrate as well, contributing to the sound.

  • @jacobmarsh7833
    @jacobmarsh7833 Рік тому +162

    Besides C major, you can also play pieces in D dorian, E phrygian, F lydian, G mixolydian, A minor, and B locrian, as long as they have no accidentals.

    • @Apebek
      @Apebek Рік тому +33

      F lydian and G mixolydian

    • @monkeytennis7477
      @monkeytennis7477 Рік тому

      That's correct, just like on a diatonic harmonica in solo tuning.

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 Рік тому +5

      No this has all the same 12 keys per octave sharp and flats, it's just that now they are all on the same level and all white

    • @Apebek
      @Apebek Рік тому

      I actually counted the keys in a picture. It has only 52. It's like a normal piano with all black keys removed.@@Tigerex966

    • @billybobthekidiswack
      @billybobthekidiswack Рік тому +14

      All of which are modes of C major

  • @xanschneider
    @xanschneider Рік тому +2071

    You do know that you can choose not to press the black keys in a regular piano, right?

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng Рік тому +214

      A regular piano with black keys will be tuned in equal temperament to play any scale. A piano tuned to only one scale (white keys only) can be tuned in just intonation since it can only play one scale.

    • @garybowman4913
      @garybowman4913 Рік тому +34

      True, but it doesn't create another marketing opportunity for makers of digital pianos and keyboards.

    • @ianl.9271
      @ianl.9271 Рік тому +78

      The challenge is that there are no black keys as 'landmark' to find your notes.

    • @organist1982
      @organist1982 Рік тому +105

      @@RaymondHng I was listening for this, but I don't believe this piano is tuned justly; it sounds just like regular ol' equal temperament. to my ears. No beautiful pure 3rds.

    • @timothywilliams1359
      @timothywilliams1359 Рік тому

      Exactly correct.@@organist1982

  • @eighteenin78
    @eighteenin78 Рік тому +64

    When I was a very young child, I had a small toy piano that had tiny hammers that hit tuned tin plates. There were only the white notes as keys and the black keys were merely painted on the white keys. I played that piano with its limitations until I got bored with it. I nudged my playpen across the floor to the real piano to play instead. Standing on tippy toe, my little arms could finally play a real piano where I could only reach ... the white keys.

    • @elizabethwalkup4954
      @elizabethwalkup4954 Рік тому +2

      Wow. I had the same toy piano. I totally forgot about it until just now. Thx for the memory 😊

  • @fredbass177
    @fredbass177 Рік тому +1362

    A piano thats harder to play because you dont see where you are,but with less musical possibilities, bravo 😄👍

    • @collllroossk
      @collllroossk Рік тому +25

      Yes, that's what we've always wanted. Gimme some more of that! XD

    • @joezuu
      @joezuu Рік тому +25

      *fewer*

    • @fashidox
      @fashidox Рік тому +23

      It still has all 88 keys, just have fun finding them. (Meaning that all music is still playable on it).

    • @g_hoenig
      @g_hoenig Рік тому +1

      Indeed

    • @Jemawin
      @Jemawin Рік тому +2

      To the performer, not the instrument.

  • @Fuzcapp
    @Fuzcapp Рік тому +10

    I know this is a completely different discipline, but as a first grade squash player, I once played on a newly painted court that had no lines on it. Seriously, it was impossible. I had no idea where I was on the court. I had no idea where the walls met, I couldn't hit a straight shot or judge a drop shoot or a volley.
    It's amazing how much those contrasts (as in black keys on a piano) make a difference to your orientation when trying to use the instrument or trying to find your way around an environment. Total kudos to this pianist in even being able to find her way around this keyboard. Even if you were a blind pianist, it would be very difficult to keep track of where you are without the black keys. I'd love th chat with this pianist and ask how much she struggled (or not) when she first got on the instrument.

  • @funkygh
    @funkygh Рік тому +3160

    This is the worst idea in musical history.

    • @JuanRamónSilva-Piano
      @JuanRamónSilva-Piano Рік тому +171

      It’s like going backwards

    • @kurtk8926
      @kurtk8926 Рік тому

      Plus the piano is Chinese garbage.

    • @chefmike8888
      @chefmike8888 Рік тому +43

      🤣🤣🤣 imagine the prototypes that were scrapped till they hit this gem. Oh yeah classics like 3 E-string guitar that has no tuning keys. Or AM squelch radio with dual 1/2 ‘ midrange wax paper cones (pat. Pending) This is going to be bigger that the jaw-harp and the kid beating on a metal garage can with a broom stick.
      I wish the made it slightly longer.
      Ooh, what about length’s for a soprano, alto , tenor and bass model. ?
      I’m going to get these ideas locked down asap.

    • @ajclarke9189
      @ajclarke9189 Рік тому +66

      If every piano were like it, then yeah. That would be the worst. But, think of it this way: this is the one piano that forces you to learn the sound of each of the seven modes, instead of letting you only learn two modes in every key signature and stopping there.

    • @JuanRamónSilva-Piano
      @JuanRamónSilva-Piano Рік тому +59

      @@ajclarke9189 You can learn the sound of the seven modes in each key in any normal piano, your point only makes this black key less piano even more useless.

  • @dskinner6263
    @dskinner6263 Рік тому +8

    A strange experiment but basically an extravagant novelty and nothing else

  • @RY-fe3rt
    @RY-fe3rt Рік тому +1985

    Black keys matter! ✊

  • @paulf2898
    @paulf2898 Рік тому +5

    "ivory and ivory, live together in perfect harmony" lol😂😂

  • @molamolalaaa2968
    @molamolalaaa2968 Рік тому +113

    Without the black keys, how can you tell the white keys apart? It’s like a pure white jigsaw puzzle!!!

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 Рік тому +7

      There’s literally nothing on a guitar that tells you which notes they are and whether they are natural or sharp/flat.
      Then there’s the violin…..
      Then there’s the trombone…….
      As someone who came from guitar it was more about chord shapes and how they could easily be transposed. I use chord shapes in piano too… but having to remember that E and A and D major have a sharp while F and G and C don’t and B has two sharps and then remembering it all again for the minor chords, suspended chords, augmented chords, diminished chords, etc etc.

    • @apianbelle1343
      @apianbelle1343 Рік тому +7

      @@Bartonovich52 " There’s literally nothing on a guitar that tells you which notes they are and whether they are natural or sharp/flat."
      so, fret markers don't exist then? it may not tell you the *exact* note, but guitarists with enough practice can look at the fret markers and say "yep, this is an E", the same way pianists can look at the 2 black keys inbetween C/D and D/E and say "yep, the note after is an E"
      Violinists and Trombonists don't have that luxury, and have to rely on muscle memory and memorization. it's why those are some of the hardest instruments to learn.
      Besides, I think it's more of the fact that there are so many octaves here, with no way to tell which note on an octave or even *which* octave you're on.
      yes, guitar and violin it isn't really obvious which is a flat or a sharp or a natural, but there also aren't as many notes you can play unfortunately. that's why piano is so special imo.
      it can play entire symphonies.

    • @rabarebra
      @rabarebra Рік тому +2

      @@Bartonovich52 Dumb comment. A guitar have fret markings.

    • @acactus2190
      @acactus2190 Рік тому +2

      @@Bartonovich52on the violin, there are many less notes to play. This piano is like playing two violins at once, and when playing violin, you have external markers to help you recognize notes (like how far you are from the fingerboard, etc.) this just makes piano unnecessarily hard.

    • @Gazeld
      @Gazeld Рік тому

      @@rabarebra 1) he didn't limit his list to guitar. 2) Guitar is there to say there are no black and white fret 'boxes'.

  • @manganume
    @manganume Рік тому +5

    The strength of using this piano is probably helping you not going to the same places harmonically when you improvise. Like when you use your voice and you're not shackled by the visual and touch.

    • @Ben-by7ul
      @Ben-by7ul Рік тому +1

      And you can play the same licks in different keys really really fast like is portrayed in this vidoe

    • @Ben-by7ul
      @Ben-by7ul Рік тому

      And you can play the same licks in different keys really really fast like is portrayed in this vidoe

  • @10jpmorgan
    @10jpmorgan Рік тому +204

    Wow! I could not play a piano with no black keys. I've never seen anything like that! This pianist plays beautifully, regardless!

    • @michelprezman51
      @michelprezman51 Рік тому +2

      No she plays with no poetry

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 Рік тому +1

      Should be all black or white four first keys brown two sharps gray three sharps black three flats.

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 Рік тому +4

      @@michelprezman51 superb playing smoother because black keys are gone.

    • @phildoctor2461
      @phildoctor2461 Рік тому +1

      It is nerve wracking.

    • @OMNI_INFINITY
      @OMNI_INFINITY 4 місяці тому +1

      Easiest piano to play melodically actually.

  • @SixStringSteve
    @SixStringSteve Рік тому +7

    What a piece (the Debussy). I thought it was a contemporary genius’ work at first.

    • @TheMysticShark
      @TheMysticShark Рік тому

      Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum is one of my favorites

  • @Smitch90
    @Smitch90 Рік тому +273

    Gosh it sounds just like a piano, extraordinary isnt it?

    • @garybowman4913
      @garybowman4913 Рік тому +25

      That's sarcasm that is, i spotted it straight away, that's just a gift i have, being sensitive to these things. If they want to make it even more interesting, throw in an operating angle grinder for 20 seconds.

    • @DrReginaldFinleySr
      @DrReginaldFinleySr Рік тому +5

      You must not be a scholar of music.

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому +10

      it IS a piano -- the keys on the outside are moving hammers to hit strings on the inside -- just like ... ummmm .. a piano.

    • @jonl1034
      @jonl1034 Рік тому +6

      Just spectacular! Next: the 1-string guitar.

    • @Billyce18
      @Billyce18 Рік тому +1

      You must be kidding me

  • @rikaniebangbang
    @rikaniebangbang Рік тому +7

    What an extraordinary sound that you totally couldn’t replicate on a normal piano by just not touching the black keys. Incredible lol

    • @stthomasmore4811
      @stthomasmore4811 Рік тому

      😂😂😂

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt Рік тому

      @@matsmcmats Erm no. You can't transpose to any other key at all. Period

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt Рік тому

      Made worse by the fact that you can actually not avoid the "black strings" resonating with the damper pedal held. It's truly just the same as ... playing this on a regular grand with a regular keyboard action installed

  • @arpeggiomikey
    @arpeggiomikey Рік тому +203

    I would think, as a pianist for over 50 years, that I would be rather disconcerted by the drastic change in the topography of this keyboard, at least initially. But even after reorienting my tactile relationship to this instrument, I would miss the harmonic overtone series that give a properly calibrated piano so much color (I did notice a perceptible difference between the all-white keyboard and the second, conventional one).
    By the way, it was a pleasure to see and hear Gina Alice (Mrs. Lang Lang) playing such lovely Rachmaninoff! 😎👍🎼🎶🎹

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому +1

      I think it's probably tuned properly -- that is, tuned in equal temperament. But I know what you mean about missing the contribution of the other strings to the harmonic resonance.

    • @rbrtck
      @rbrtck Рік тому +9

      @@aBachwardsfellow I believe this piano is a standard one with all of the expected strings inside. I read somewhere that it's a Hamburg Steinway B. They just retrofitted this weird and pointless keyboard to it.

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому +3

      ​@@rbrtck I'm pretty sure you're right -- I finally realized that. It's a cute spoof -- fun, and actually playable to some extent. It's at least better than the guy who attaches real small hammers to the shafts, tunes all strings to the same note, or fills a grand piano with water.

    • @rbrtck
      @rbrtck Рік тому +5

      @@aBachwardsfellow I'd actually argue that it's worse and more pointless than the other examples. Replacing the hammers at least changes the timbre of the piano. And tuning all of the strings to the same pitch at least tells us what sonic difference the other physical differences between the strings make, with pitch being equal. And filling a piano with water, while silly, might at least satisfy any curiosity we might have about the effects of doing that, and change the timbre, as well.
      In contrast, omitting the black keys tells us absolutely nothing we didn't already know, and makes no difference except to limit what can be played properly on the piano. Furthermore, a piano with a regular keyboard can easily and readily accomplish everything this crippled piano can, without the need to build and swap in a special keyboard at all. This might be a "cute" ploy for publicity, and the appearance of the keyboard seems to make a visual impression, but other than these superficial qualities, this is the most pointless thing to do with a piano that I can imagine.

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому +1

      @@rbrtck I see your point -- true.

  • @ningbosmash6750
    @ningbosmash6750 Рік тому +35

    One consideration people in the comments are missing is that a piano without black keys is, of course, missing the strings attached to those chromatic pitches (edit: it seems this is not the case for this particular piano. The strings should still be present, but the keys are not). When I hold the pedal down and play a key on a normal piano, some vibration occurs in the black key strings related to the overtone series. This affects how the instrument sounds. By removing those strings, the diatonic vibrations will only affect the diatonic notes, giving the open sound when pressing the pedal a more pure C Major feel.

    • @DaveTexas
      @DaveTexas Рік тому +2

      But is it missing those strings or is it just a standard piano that has had a different keyboard installed? I with they had shown us the interior of the piano so we could see if had a custom-built harp with the 52 sets of strings equally spaced, if it had a standard harp with 36 sets of strings missing throughout, or if it had all 88 sets of strings.

    • @elsongs
      @elsongs Рік тому +2

      @@DaveTexas According to the description, it does have all 88 notes, including all the sharps and flats - it's just that they aren't marked as black keys that are staggered on the keyboard.

    • @ningbosmash6750
      @ningbosmash6750 Рік тому

      @@elsongs Sorry, I missed that detail!

    • @tom_something
      @tom_something Рік тому

      Plus, if you're pressing the pedal down rather quickly, the sound of the dampers leaving the keys gives kind of a "husssh" sound. It would be interesting to listen to the difference between the "husssh" of a diatonic piano vs. a traditional one.

  • @mellophs
    @mellophs Рік тому +12

    I'll wait for them to release the DLC with the black keys before purchasing... Has to be one of these brilliant sales strategies

  • @tammanaq
    @tammanaq 2 місяці тому

    I'm a fan! This is much more logical than the normal key layout. This is what a piano would look like if a guitarist made it :) All key signatures are finally equal.

  • @DavidJones-kz6ik
    @DavidJones-kz6ik Рік тому +14

    "Why don't you just not play the black keys on a regular piano?"
    "...This one don't have the wrong notes"
    Truly a Spinal Tap moment

  • @keatonwheeler2894
    @keatonwheeler2894 Рік тому +1

    You give the pianist’s name at the end but not the name of the pianist who so beautifully played that beautifully disorienting instrument at the beginning?

  • @gerardvila4685
    @gerardvila4685 Рік тому +33

    Musically this is like a very big, very powerful diatonic harp.
    You MIGHT follow the principle of a chromatic Erard harp, by adding 7 sharp/flat pedals, each acting on one note over all the octaves: eg the C pedal can make all the C keys into C#'s or Cb's... then you'd be able to play stuff written for concert harp. In theory at least... but why would you want to do that?

    • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio Рік тому +1

      This piano is not the equivalent of a diatonic harp. It has 12 notes per octave just like a normal piano, in 7 octaves + a little bit, so 88 keys like it says in the video and description (the video text and description are correct and the associated Classic FM article is wrong). But it has them played by keys that look identical to the ones that play the natural(-sign) notes. So it would be very hard to find where you are, but if you can figure it out (this pianist somehow did), you can play all the same notes as on a normal piano. If you listen carefully you will hear a few sharp/flat notes.But one thing to note from the associated article is the still photo, which answers some questions people have about the spacing of the keys: If you don't have skinny fingers, you aren't going to be playing this thing.

    • @gerardvila4685
      @gerardvila4685 Рік тому +1

      @@Lucius_Chiaraviglio Thanks for the correction.
      I'm just an incompetent amateur, but my feeling is that that putting all 12 notes on the same level seems an even worse idea than just keeping the white keys. As Chopin noted, the three-dimensional shape of a conventional keyboard is actually helpful, and C major / A minor are the least comfortable keys to play. If so, this thing is a giant step in the wrong direction.

    • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio Рік тому

      @@gerardvila4685 Maybe somebody wanted to demonstrated that 12EDO fits within a linear temperament?

    • @Gazeld
      @Gazeld Рік тому +1

      @@Lucius_Chiaraviglio no, the video can't be 100% right or 100% wrong when description says it has 88 keys and the subtile at 0:11 says it can only play in C major...

    • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio Рік тому

      @@Gazeld That text in the video is definitely wrong -- the music definitely has a few sharp/flat notes (few and generally far in between, but not absent).

  • @cziffrathegreat666
    @cziffrathegreat666 Рік тому +3

    Now we'd all need a course on how to navigate across this piano with every key looking literally the same

  • @johnson941
    @johnson941 Рік тому +84

    So we're talking about a piano with only a C Major scale, but not the fact that she could find all the correct keys and make such beautiful music? That's the impressive part to me anyways.

    • @RonaldDeSantis
      @RonaldDeSantis Рік тому +3

      you can also play A minor and different modes of the melodic minor scale

    • @justinjames9258
      @justinjames9258 Рік тому +1

      literally everyone commented on that already

    • @oneirdaathnaram1376
      @oneirdaathnaram1376 Рік тому +4

      @@RonaldDeSantis You can play anything as the black keys are all there. It's just that they are white and formed like the white keys.

    • @OzanCitoyen
      @OzanCitoyen Рік тому +1

      ​@@RonaldDeSantishow could you play modes of Melodic Minor?

    • @RonaldDeSantis
      @RonaldDeSantis Рік тому

      @@OzanCitoyen you can as you would play modes of the major scale. they are used a lot in jazz.

  • @kevingodding9316
    @kevingodding9316 Рік тому +20

    Great playing, now what about Showing us the Piano with only Black notes 👍

    • @10jpmorgan
      @10jpmorgan Рік тому +7

      I guess it would only play a pentatonic scale.

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому

      not a problem -- just paint them all black .... ;-)

    • @wiseoldfool
      @wiseoldfool Рік тому

      I see just white keys and I want to paint them black! (for those old enough to remember)

  • @-dalechipminormusicmaniapi6961
    @-dalechipminormusicmaniapi6961 7 місяців тому +1

    A piano for stylishly playing subset songs without black keys.
    There is also a beauty that comes from being restricted and not having black keys.

  • @greenkitty6482
    @greenkitty6482 Рік тому +8

    One of the aspects that makes a piano easier to navigate is the existence of the black and white keys. If the key width of this all-white -key piano remains the same as the regular piano, I’m afraid my hands will not be big enough to play, for instance, octaves. Technically, I believe the sound of the piano can be constructed to be the same quality. After all, it’s the strings, the wood and the sound board that count. So, basically it’s the look that is different. Personally, I prefer the regular black- and white- keyed piano; the black-and-white pattern of the instrument makes it unique.

  • @JarekMajewski
    @JarekMajewski Рік тому +1

    finally we have piano for guitar players !

    • @shwilly
      @shwilly 4 місяці тому

      Exactly the reason why I googled whether this type of keyboard exists at all. Apparently we're idiots for desiring an instrument that allows you play the exact same fingerings all over the place regardless of key :)

  • @ehsome
    @ehsome Рік тому +8

    Considering music and musical instruments have a great and appreciable history of trying out extraordinary things - and moreso humans one of asking "what if" - I think it was only a matter of time for this to be created.
    Therefore I like to look at it as a milestone or a phenomenon of sort. I mean... at the end of the day it looks fun and it's something I've never seen before

    • @ehsome
      @ehsome Рік тому +1

      It's like sci-fi writing: It's not always reliable science but it has to get a bit quirky at times to be the interesting story it is. And that in turn can inspire some real science.
      In this case: I myself have come to ask a lot more questions about the history of the piano keyboard now and am also inspired to think about different approaches to musical instruments

  • @Lifes_Student
    @Lifes_Student Рік тому

    that must feel like a breath of fresh air for your fingers

  • @thutmosetoure1396
    @thutmosetoure1396 Рік тому +9

    Does anyone know if this uses just or equal temperament? I feel like it'd be a waste to use equal temperament when you're strictly in a C mode.

    • @gngrblls2thwall
      @gngrblls2thwall Рік тому +3

      It’s just a gimmick to get attention. There’s no intention to do anything of value with it.

  • @OMNI_INFINITY
    @OMNI_INFINITY Рік тому +1

    I made an music app without any blackkeys in the sequencer. It could only make HARMONIOUS music. It can’t play a wrong note, when there is only White involved

  • @zaxzaxx4561
    @zaxzaxx4561 Рік тому +5

    Has no-one else noticed how the absence of the 'black note strings' (for want of a better description) gives an extraordinary lucidity to the sympathetic string effect when she raises the damper pedal? It's even audible on a UA-cam video! This instrument is worth having for that quality alone! As for the idea of black keys as visual markers, many real pianists play with their eyes closed anyway (and the rest probably could if they wanted to).

    • @wmwilliamsiii
      @wmwilliamsiii Рік тому

      Yeah the timbre and resonance of the piano seems altered and a bit less rich and bit more harsh.

    • @jepz11
      @jepz11 Рік тому

      Thanks for this positive reaction, zaxzaxx.
      I can not hear what you describe, and I do not understand what you say.
      Yet I do value your positive comment.

    • @zaxzaxx4561
      @zaxzaxx4561 Рік тому

      @@wmwilliamsiii Oddly enough, I thought the sound was richer and smoother due to the absence of semitone strings (which would vibrate atonally anyway just through transmission through the frame when the dampers are lifted, even without resonance). We all have different ears!

  • @cadriver2570
    @cadriver2570 Рік тому

    That keyboard is nightmare material for a pianist, lol.
    Love that somebody made this though.

  • @davidoron1
    @davidoron1 Рік тому +9

    I think most of the comments are missing the point. If you remove the black keys and their corresponding strings you make it so that the reverb would lack all frequencies corresponding to the black keys (noticeable especially when you use the sustain pedal). My point is that it's not only for show, I think the sound should actually be different.

    • @roopakvaidya1450
      @roopakvaidya1450 Рік тому

      The strings are not removed, but the blcack keys are made white and of the same size as the white keys.

    • @aleksthevoyager1260
      @aleksthevoyager1260 Рік тому +1

      That is not the case at all

  • @johnchang2266
    @johnchang2266 Рік тому

    It’s not about what keys you have and don’t have, what keys you can play in and can’t play in. It’s all about the tuning. In equal temperament, all 12 notes have equal distances. That’s why when we play a tonic triad, the 3rd is always flat. With just 7 notes, you can tune it in just intonation and your tonic triad will be perfectly in tune with a bright resonance.

  • @VlasisGogousis13
    @VlasisGogousis13 Рік тому +10

    Would like to see the same concept for black keys as well! I can already think of a classic beginners' piece which is almost entirely on black keys!

    • @WhitePaintbrush
      @WhitePaintbrush Рік тому +1

      which piece is that?

    • @johnfreund4456
      @johnfreund4456 Рік тому +6

      Actually started off a dyslexic ADD student (eight years old) by playing around on just the black keys for a while. Great thing about Pentatonics is that anything you play is a melody.

    • @mogmason6920
      @mogmason6920 Рік тому +2

      @@WhitePaintbrushFlea Waltz probably

    • @VlasisGogousis13
      @VlasisGogousis13 Рік тому +2

      @@mogmason6920 That's the one! :)

    • @regularly_priced
      @regularly_priced Рік тому +2

      That would make a pretty-sounding pentatonic piano, however limited it would be

  • @punkassparker
    @punkassparker Рік тому

    The extraordinary sound of extra ordinary music

  • @DanNobles
    @DanNobles Рік тому +70

    I think this is an interesting novelty, but the fact that the instrument is missing five tones from the chromatic scale severely limits the harmonic and melodic options available to the player. What would be really interesting in my opinion, would be, if this piano keyboard were, in fact, chromatic, with the same layout. The keyboard would be absolutely enormous, haha.

    • @Obi-WanKannabis
      @Obi-WanKannabis Рік тому +6

      or it would just have less range. But it would be infinitely harder to play. Not only are the notes in positions no one is used to, but also there's no markings. And of course, the amount of notes your hand covers would be much smaller

    • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio Рік тому +9

      It is not missing any notes. It has 12 notes per octave just like a normal piano, in 7 octaves + a little bit, so 88 keys like it says in the video and description (the video text and description are correct and the associated Classic FM article is wrong). But it has them played by keys that look identical to the ones that play the natural(-sign) notes. So it would be very hard to find where you are, but if you can figure it out (this pianist somehow did), you can play all the same notes as on a normal piano. If you listen carefully you will hear a few sharp/flat notes. But one thing to note from the associated article is the still photo, which answers some questions people have about the spacing of the keys: If you don't have skinny fingers, you aren't going to be playing this thing.

    • @matswessling6600
      @matswessling6600 Рік тому +3

      @@Lucius_Chiaravigliono. they have removed the black keys. They have not changed the strings. only the keyboard.

    • @drgruber57
      @drgruber57 Рік тому +1

      Yes. Thanks for explaining this. Too many commenters assumed that the piano has no sharps or flats. Yes, all the same notes are there. They have just made it much harder to play this piano!

    • @matswessling6600
      @matswessling6600 Рік тому +2

      @@drgruber57 That is wrong: the white keys only allow the notes in c-major. The only change made to the piano is in the keyboard. Not in the body(strings etc)

  • @satiric_
    @satiric_ Рік тому +2

    I might be missing something, but how does this change the sound of the piano in any way? Surely it just changes the ergonomics of how the player plays, and nothing else? Not to say it isn't a neat idea, I love that someone made it!

  • @lynx48k
    @lynx48k Рік тому +4

    The late Victor Borge told us that the piano started as one single big white key. But because this didn't sound very interesting they started to cut it up into smaller slices. He also said the big change came for the piano with the Civil Rights movement.

    • @Neelo5000
      @Neelo5000 Рік тому +1

      Sadly, the black keys still have to sit at the back of the piano.

  • @itspusher
    @itspusher Рік тому

    > Develop equal temperament
    > Create possibilities spanning key changes, chromaticism, polytonality, etc
    > Abandon them all for the Ionian mode ONLY

  • @carolineboenig7777
    @carolineboenig7777 Рік тому +20

    More than just the mere fact that it is in the key of C major, must be considered that it leaves out non-diatonic tone & non-diatonic chord possibilities ...the ability to stack more creative and complex chords. This severely limits the musical scope both for performance and accompaniment. May be great for certain adaptations and novelty ...but overwhelmingly surpassed by the classic piano.

    • @notenoughpaper
      @notenoughpaper Рік тому +5

      But that's exactly the point - it's not supposed to replace classical pianos, it's probably meant as a tool to limit yourself when improvising and writing music, especially maybe as a learning tool if you are a player that likes to changes modes frequently. Maybe the person that commissioned this piano wanted exactly that, to be forced to go out of their comfort zones and try to express musical ideas without being able to change modes. Probably makes you write different stuff than if you had the possibility. Again, I'm sure this isn't meant to replace normal pianos, it's pretty much a thing that one person wanted to have, to be forced to think differently. It's a little bit like playing in a different tuningon guitar, you can't use the normal chords, maybe you go on to avoid chords entirely and focus on melody, or maybe you discover new chords that would be very hard to play in E standard. Maybe it forces you to avoid the standard barre chords. Idk. At least it makes you think and explore. I think this sort of thing is supposed to have a similar effect for piano. You are physically incapable of playing an F minor chord after an C major chord, you have to think about new ways to achieve a similar feeling with different harmony. Again, it just makes you think differently about music and what you are able to play.

    • @tantuce
      @tantuce Рік тому

      ​@@notenoughpaper if they wanted to deliberately limit themselves and go trough difficulties on making a melody, they should just opt for a set of drums or make a single drum themselves, lol

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому +1

      @carolineboenig8069 -- for sure! They should just put the regular keyboard back in ...

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 Рік тому +1

      I think it actually simply made the black keys white so you still have sharps and flats 12 keys per octave you just don't have to see the black keys as different color shape location and size anymore, now it is just like on other stringed instruments.

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому +1

      ​@@Tigerex966 LOL! yeah -- a lot of people fell for it and went that way with it -- including me. -- it takes a while for the truth to dawn..

  • @emmanueldavid4645
    @emmanueldavid4645 Рік тому +8

    This is hard to play but at the same time it proves that just the white keys could sound great in the right hands!

  • @SuriyamongkholApisinghatawat
    @SuriyamongkholApisinghatawat Рік тому +1

    “Its so clean”

  • @ianfrankis8653
    @ianfrankis8653 Рік тому +18

    Do they do a version in A minor? 😮

    • @jeanpierre72
      @jeanpierre72 Рік тому +2

      😂

    • @b1gbo5s99
      @b1gbo5s99 Рік тому +1

      A minor is in the key of C major....

    • @rbrtck
      @rbrtck Рік тому

      ​@@b1gbo5s99 They use the same all-white keys, but have different tonal centers (C and A, of course).

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому

      @@jeanpierre72 🤣😂

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому

      sure -- just use this one and start 3 notes lower (natural minor only -- no melodic or harmonic ...)
      .. but I suspect you knew that -- right? ;-)

  • @oneirdaathnaram1376
    @oneirdaathnaram1376 Рік тому +1

    Next creation: The all-black-keys piano!

  • @dovdiaz
    @dovdiaz Рік тому +9

    One of a kind. No doubt....
    How could have someone ever imagine such an amazing invention...? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @josswindsor8288
    @josswindsor8288 Рік тому

    I remember when I played Doctor Gradus and Parnassum of Debussy several years ago perhaps 25 years

  • @BigParadox
    @BigParadox Рік тому +12

    If I understood correctly, it is like a normal piano but with the black keys removed. What I had hoped for, as a more interesting experiment, is a piano with all notes present (including those of the black keys) but all represented by plain white keys. In other words, a full piano which does not favor any specific tonality. The width of the keys of such a piano would of course be a problem to be solved.

    • @rafaelfilippini
      @rafaelfilippini Рік тому

      It favors the C major tonality.

    • @wilh3lmmusic
      @wilh3lmmusic Рік тому +1

      That would just be more difficult to play when you don't know where the key you want is and playing on only the white keys is also less ergonomic

    • @BigParadox
      @BigParadox Рік тому

      @@wilh3lmmusic But, as I said, there should be markings (maybe not just visual but also tactical). And they should sit on some kind of ruler that can be moved to any of 12 positions. So once you know how to play a piece of music, then, by relocating that ruler, you will be able to play that piece in any of the 12 keys.

    • @desnou
      @desnou Рік тому

      What you are thinking of is Dodeka layout. Just google it. But Janko layout is better and isomorphic as well. The drawback of both is that you must convert a normal piano to one of those alternatives yourself.

  • @m0ment219
    @m0ment219 Рік тому +2

    Wow... this is like playing blind... very impressive!

    • @perlundgren7797
      @perlundgren7797 Рік тому

      Worse, argubably. If you're blind, you can still feel the black keys.

  • @ghamoz
    @ghamoz Рік тому

    Il suono ,per quanto si possa sentire da UA-cam non è male, ma non c'entra niente coi tasti. Che belinate che dite

  • @martinmarsola6477
    @martinmarsola6477 Рік тому +17

    A very skillful musician! ❤😊

  • @RAkers-tu1ey
    @RAkers-tu1ey Рік тому +1

    A very interesting exploration. I am grateful someone had the fortitude and budget to pursue it.

  • @RikMaxSpeed
    @RikMaxSpeed Рік тому +3

    If it had the normal 88 notes but all the keys were white and the same (narrower) width, it would enable easy transposition.

    • @carlosbacco
      @carlosbacco Рік тому

      including unwanted transposition :D

  • @sambrown8636
    @sambrown8636 Рік тому

    And Classic FM, being professional and caring about all aspects of the music: who is the pianist?

  • @MaggaraMarine
    @MaggaraMarine Рік тому +20

    Why? Why not just use the white keys on a regular piano? Why does it need to be a separate instrument? What benefits does this piano have over the regular piano?
    I can't really see what this piano can do that you couldn't do on a normal piano. But I can see plenty of things that you can do on a regular piano that isn't possible on this instrument.
    Also, how would you navigate on the keyboard? How do you know which key is C when all of the keys look exactly the same?

    • @edyue1
      @edyue1 Рік тому +1

      You brought up a lot of great points, nothing new under the sun, there’s a reason why there is no one making these things

    • @notenoughpaper
      @notenoughpaper Рік тому +1

      You are right, but I think it might be of interest as a tool for improvising. It doesn't make sense to perform on it necessarily, but it forces you to think differently when writing something. Limitation can be the source of creativity, as you have to avoid modal changes entirely. This is a pretty big limitation. Of course you can just choose just "not to do it" but actually being incapable to change modes definitely causes you to think differently. Of course this could also just be accomplished by detuning the black keys or something, so that they become hard to use. But in general, it can be interesting to hard limitations as a creative tool

    • @suzycreamchez123
      @suzycreamchez123 Рік тому

      You'd have to start practicing scales differently. I would think it's awkward.

    • @beddheddid9424
      @beddheddid9424 Рік тому

      Because it's fun?
      lol I actually have no idea.

    • @jackandblaze5956
      @jackandblaze5956 Рік тому +1

      I see a white dot on the front face of middle C4 and line marks on the front face of the next D,E,F,G,and A.

  • @garybowman4913
    @garybowman4913 Рік тому +4

    I've heard you can get a black and white keyed one, I wonder where i can get one of those?

  • @bengurion5285
    @bengurion5285 Рік тому

    Reminds me of trying to type on a typewriter back in a days with few letters non-functional and few keys without top letter marks.

  • @someonerandomhere
    @someonerandomhere Рік тому +16

    If the piano still has 88 keys, it should have the equivalent of the 36 black ones of a normal piano here as well. In other words, it's not restricted to the C major scale.

    • @acactus2190
      @acactus2190 Рік тому +3

      I don’t hear any black keys

    • @someonerandomhere
      @someonerandomhere Рік тому +1

      @@acactus2190 fine, but then the info on the video/description is wrong.

    • @kai.m
      @kai.m Рік тому +2

      That was my assumption as well. I'm confused by the rest of the comments. This is a regular piano except the black keys have been converted to white keys.

    • @screamingalgae9380
      @screamingalgae9380 Рік тому +1

      Yes, the description is wrong--the piano only has 52 keys. Watch for where the pianist plays B-A-G--there are no keys between those notes.

  • @SamBo-k1h
    @SamBo-k1h Рік тому +1

    Ivory and ivory go together in perfect harmony side beside on my piano keyboard oh lord why can't we. Well clash of cultures I guess😂

  • @webwebuseful
    @webwebuseful Рік тому +3

    Wow they turned the black keys into white keys

  • @Alexthefancollector
    @Alexthefancollector 16 днів тому

    For sure there'd be a plaque somewhere on that piano with the phrase "live laugh love" inscribed on it

  • @matiassenger2349
    @matiassenger2349 Рік тому +4

    So, basically it is like a car with 3 wheels.

    • @gngrblls2thwall
      @gngrblls2thwall Рік тому

      It can only play in one of 12 keys, so one twelfth of 4 wheels. A third of a wheel.

  • @therealmusicianaire
    @therealmusicianaire Рік тому

    I would be bored to tears playing this piano. No wait.... no boredom at all because after a couple minutes of it I'd walk away.

  • @DanielConstantinoS
    @DanielConstantinoS Рік тому +3

    Lets make a car with inverted driving wheel. Because yes.

  • @FirstGentleman1
    @FirstGentleman1 Рік тому +1

    I want a white piano with only black keys next.

  • @joshlouie
    @joshlouie Рік тому +8

    Omg! I never imagined in my life that somebody will create a piano with all white keys and I've been playing piano since I was a kid. How come it never occurred to me about it? 🤔 So are there still 88 keys? 🎹 🎼🎶

    • @tanktango680
      @tanktango680 Рік тому +2

      The black keys doesnt affect the size of the white keys

    • @kc9scott
      @kc9scott Рік тому +1

      I haven’t seen one of these in person, but in the video, the width of these white keys looks the same as on a normal piano. So they just deleted the black keys. You could play the same musical arrangement as this on an ordinary piano, but then also do so much more if you did have black keys…

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому +3

      I think the title line is incorrect -- isaacbeen2087 says that in another article on the Classic FM website it says there are only 52 keys. While it may span the entire 7 octaves of white keys (plus B and A in the bass), to fit 88 keys all the same size would increase the distance of an octave to make it unreachable -- as well as alter all other intervals.

    • @captaincatchy
      @captaincatchy Рік тому +3

      @@aBachwardsfellow yes - when I saw the title I assumed that the sharps and flats were just white keys, and therefore you could still play any piece but you'd need to learn a new technique. It seems it's just a keyboard without the sharps and flats. Pointless!

    • @davidalbro2009
      @davidalbro2009 Рік тому

      ​@@aBachwardsfellowOh wow. I had to look after you mentioned it. That definitely seems incorrect.

  • @JSaltyfabricator
    @JSaltyfabricator Рік тому +1

    Why? Because you can also butter your toast with a sledgehammer.
    Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

  • @aBachwardsfellow
    @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому +4

    A piano totally dedicated to the US national anthem: Oh Say Can You C.

    • @willowmillard
      @willowmillard Рік тому +1

      I can’t, I’m A minor

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому

      @@willowmillard LOL!

    • @nickopeters
      @nickopeters Рік тому

      I'm pretty sure that even that song has some chromatic accidentals in it, although, of course, I'm not at all trying to detract from your delightful pun.

    • @aBachwardsfellow
      @aBachwardsfellow Рік тому

      ​@@nickopeters You are correct -- the Star Spangled Banner has an F# (dominant D major of the dominant G major) on the "- ly" of " ... by the dawn's ear - ly light" , "-ous" of " ... thru the per - il - ous fight, "still" of " that the flag was still there ... " and more

  • @jcguy777
    @jcguy777 Рік тому

    Wow this is skill! C Major for life!

  • @mjallenuk
    @mjallenuk Рік тому +10

    Absolutely want a go of that! Wonderful talent.

  • @jato2942
    @jato2942 Рік тому

    Beautifully played

  • @jovaughnthompson354
    @jovaughnthompson354 Рік тому +12

    As a non-musician who doesn’t understand the implications of a piano not having black keys, I see this as an absolute win

    • @lynx48k
      @lynx48k Рік тому +15

      This is not a win. Black keys matter.

    • @regularly_priced
      @regularly_priced Рік тому +3

      No black keys means none of the interesting modes. You can only play in the 7 diatonic modes and that’s it. All of the color and magic that comes from all the other non-diatonic modes… it’s gone, unusable.

    • @jovaughnthompson354
      @jovaughnthompson354 Рік тому

      @@regularly_priced i have no idea what you just said but it seems convincing

    • @Frisbieinstein
      @Frisbieinstein Рік тому +2

      You can't change the key of a piece so accompanying a singer would be impractical. (You have to change key to match their vocal range.)

    • @bobrandom5545
      @bobrandom5545 Рік тому

      There are now 5 notes that you won't be able to play, the black keys. Which means that you won't be able to play most of the music ever written

  • @everythingthroughbooks
    @everythingthroughbooks Рік тому

    This is absolutely haunting

  • @CrowPal
    @CrowPal Рік тому +5

    It does sound extraordinary - extraordinarily like a piano. Now we just need a piano with no white keys, so we can play all our regular pieces as duets.
    On the other hand, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

  • @Taco67_99Fender
    @Taco67_99Fender Рік тому

    I’ve been thinking about this a lot I didn’t know if someone else already figured it out

  • @sarcasticguy4311
    @sarcasticguy4311 Рік тому +3

    "The extraordinary sound of a piano with no black keys…" Sounds exactly like a regular piano! ASTONISHING!
    Next up, a flute with NO HOLES.

  • @TruthSurge
    @TruthSurge Рік тому

    what's old is new. They started w/o black keys when piano was first invented. Then equal temperament came along. You can just open any piano, tune the major thirds in C (the E notes) flat by oh, 10 cents or so and just don't play the black keys. Exact same thing as not having black keys really except for resonances if sustain pedal is employed.

  • @stevesm2010
    @stevesm2010 Рік тому +4

    I wonder if a modern VST could be programmed to emulate the 'Sinhakken' on a normal controller keyboard. It would be an interesting experiment.

  • @Thinkdragon1982
    @Thinkdragon1982 Рік тому

    Absolutely brilliant.

  • @brandobin
    @brandobin Рік тому +7

    I was hoping it would be microtonal, or at leeast just intonation 😢

  • @southpark5555
    @southpark5555 Рік тому +1

    One advantage of that sort of piano is --- easier to clean and wipe the keys etc, when dust cleaning etc.

    • @flamu9183
      @flamu9183 Рік тому +1

      that is the only advantage, too

    • @southpark5555
      @southpark5555 Рік тому +1

      @@flamu9183 True. I think playing regular scales for exercises will be quite challenging on that one hehe

  • @deldridg
    @deldridg Рік тому +4

    Wow - thank you for this. Fascinating concept. After almost 50 years of playing, often in the dark, the black keys are a big part of the way I (and I guess most players) locate positions all over the keyboard - especially playing without looking. BTW - lovely to hear Gina Alice playing too, Lang Lang's wife. Cheers - Dave

  • @FriendlyHugo
    @FriendlyHugo Рік тому

    At 1:00 the arranfement she's playing switches away from Debussy's Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum (returning again around the 1:23 mark).
    Does anyone know what piece this ~22 seconds is from?

  • @rider_guide
    @rider_guide Рік тому +7

    Racist piano

  • @jasminerochas-oq8jw
    @jasminerochas-oq8jw Рік тому

    It is an invitation to write special music for this kind of piano.TY for sharing. I would add a vertical collection of coloured signs, so as to guide a bit.

  • @ambroiseperret6460
    @ambroiseperret6460 Рік тому +1

    I think it looks pretty , and that's enough to justify its existence , look no further

  • @oshaya
    @oshaya Рік тому

    Just have respect and give us the name of pianist!

  • @mladengrubelic873
    @mladengrubelic873 Рік тому

    While I deeply respect the educated comments about this instrument being 'a horrible idea', I believe the idea was to manufacture an instrument with some unusual and unique features but the main point is the SOUND of this 'piano'. I personally find it's sound mesmerising and extremely enjoyable.

  • @worldofpaisen
    @worldofpaisen Рік тому

    the beauty of C major is you can pretty much mess around and play anything, repeating patterns, and it will (probably) sound alright

  • @simonsmatthew
    @simonsmatthew Рік тому

    Basically C-Major and A-aeolian. It is intereting how the sound reflects a lot of the sound we here today - like Einaudi, and in countless areas. where there is background music. This modal sound I think is also behnd a lot of the timbre in the popular music today. I find young people like this sound.

  • @antonioperillo1182
    @antonioperillo1182 Рік тому

    Apart the aestethic side that the black keys less is a great empty, I wonder how could be easy to be wrong. The sound of this piano is however amazing!!!!!👍👍👍👏👏

  • @JGS007
    @JGS007 Рік тому

    I have a hard enough time learning the one with the black notes! Can’t spent another lifetime getting used to a new set up.

  • @andyharpist2938
    @andyharpist2938 Рік тому

    I have played the paraguayan harp in F maj all my life quite happily.