Stop the steal! Sizzapp gps tracking
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Trying out a GPS tracker both for bike security but also other neat applications. Full install, app and feature overview.
If you want to get one, head over to www.sizzapp.com and use the promotion code NOMADSWEDEN for 10% discount.
The device I use in this video is the 2-wire 4G device.
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iPhone update! (Android has other possibilities)
I usually have notifications turned off at night which would be bad for the purpose. Also I want to have a separate sound for the bike notifications. This is not possible on iPhone, but there is a work around.
Make sure to use the SMS notifiers. Then add the SIZZAPP SMS number as a contact and enable it as an emergency contact. You can also set a different SMS sound for that contact. This will always sound the call or message, even if the phone is in silent or do not disturb mode.
What type of mirrors do you have ?
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Thanks and good review. I have something called Monimoto here in the UK, but it requires periodic battery replacement (doesn't drain bike battery, which my other tracker did) and it also requires periodic SIM subscription which is inexpensive. However, the is no map unless you activate the tracker in the event it is taken, but then the battery may only last days to a week. So ... this Sizzapp looks like a great inbetweener. Would be interested to know more about effects on sucking the juice from your bike battery if left for say 1 or 2 weeks without bike use!
My first GSA got stolen from the garage in September 2020. (the chain got cut, what was remaining was half a chain link), Got my current GSA and fitted a MoniMoto GPS tracker. This one has it's own battery and I chose it, so noone can see it is there. November 2021 the thieves hit again. The brake disk was cut and the steering lock broken. I got an alert at 3 in the morning, rushed to the garage and saw the van disappearing into the night. I phoned the police and 6 units of the Rotterdam police were chasing the bike and found it within an hour. The inshurance had only to pay for the damage, instead of the whole replacement of the bike. The only disadvantage of a GPS tracker when your bike is parked inside a garage is that it takes some time until it detects movement. Additional to the brake disk lock and the chain to the wall, I have invested now in RoadLok which is a brake disk lock mounted on the brake caliper. It feels safe now, but also takes 10 minutes to release it from all the locks before riding. (you can not have it all!! ;-) ) Stay safe out there wherever you are.
Thanks for your story! Great that it worked for you. This device has a built in battery that lasts 3 hours if disconnected from bike battery. It also detects tilts and vibrations, so GPS does not have to register. As mentioned, we can't always stop the steal, but we can possibly find the bike again. All the best!
love your dedication
How were they getting into your garage so easily? Couldn't motion detecting cameras alarm you ahead of time as well?
@@durtyred86 motion detection will give fault alarms, as all kind of animals (mostly cats) can go in and out the garage. It is not a private garage, but for 22 households. Someone not closing the door properly, someone sneaking in, .... As the insurance guy said...... if they really want it, they get it.
@@michlsei ah!! Yes I see. I thought you meant a single private garage. Understood.
Anything that deters/ prevents theft is good...I like the idea of a subscription free tracker too. Bike theft is such a horrible thing...but on a brighter note I parked my old 660 Tenere outside a hotel once, after a long, long journey. I checked in and promptly fell fast asleep in my room. Total panic in the morning when I saw my bike was gone...until the manager said one of the barmen had wheeled it home and locked it safely in his garage...I'd left some luggage on it and they were just being kind!! Cheers, Steve
Wow that was kind but scary
Ok, I have just installed the 2 wire device to my bike as replacement for a Tracker unit that needs to be charged (PITA)!
Nobody (Tshansen or yourself) has mentioned that you need to select ‘Service’ menu to disable the unit if out on a ride… The GUI / App is a bit clunky really and could benefit from a simple ‘On / Off’ button on the Home Screen to select armed or not armed….
A short test ride shows that it is very accurate in tracking within GSM terrain… I like.
Thanks for detailed review!
Thanks for feedback. Personally I never use service mode unless the bike is worked on. Yes this sends an alert to me every time I move the bike without starting it, but that's just a confirmation to me that it's working.
Great device. Got me thinking about security. Thank you.
we will be glad to see you among our satisfied customers :)
Many countries the police won’t even chase bikes with GPS trackers unfortunately 😞 they just let the insurance handle it. But that won’t cover your accessories. But it’s an extra layer of security for sure. Just don’t forget locks, alarm with noise, and garage when possible. Also avoiding locations that are known to be thieves den.
The police are fairly worthless here. Fortunately, I live in a place where the right to bear arms is well respected. I'd upgrade my everyday carry firearm, probably opting for a 12 gauge shotgun or 9mm AR pistol, and go recover my stolen bike myself. I might take a couple of friends.
Awesome, something i would need 🤓.
Please put it Benins the rear fairings later on, so its hidden 🤪
250 Euros is a decent price for a good night's sleep. 👍
Robert,
Thanks for this info. I was just thinking how hard it would be to replace my bike if stolen. There are only 2 in my local counties. Rare as unicorn poop. I will look into this and I also have the Oxford high decibel disk lock. Keep up the great work, looking forward to your next adventure!
Thank you!
Hopefully you found a more hidden location for the GPS tracker than under the seat. I have had the Invoxia GPS tracker installed in the beak of my baby GS. I tapped into one of the two accessory power connectors on the back of the bike's display so the GPS tracker is charging whenever the bike is powered on. That keeps it charged without draining the bike's battery. It's been zero hassle for the last 18 months.
Why do you keep the invoxia connected? I recently bought one and the battery last for +3 months so no need to have cables showing the way to it, it is well hidden and every 3 months I just get to it unscrewing some stuff, charge it with a powerbank in 15min and its good for another 3 months.
It is important that the tracker is well hidden and no cable leads to it, right?
Invoxia? This unit is built for charging from bike battery. No option to do other way. If disconnected the alarm goes off and still works 3hours. Takes 20 minutes to unscrew things to get to its location.
@@hellderson - My Invoxia GPS tracker, the small 12V to USB charger and cable are all well hidden behind the headlight in the beak. It charges every time the bike is on. I installed it two years ago and never needed to recharge it. With my luck (that we make for ourselves), if I needed to recharge it, I'd tell myself, "I'll do that next time" and then someone would steal my bike when the tracker battery is dead. Even if criminals stole my bike and put it in a steel shipping container over the winter, as soon as someone rode it, I'd get a notification. Charging as I ride also means I don't need to worry about low power modes to conserve battery life, so I have it sending GPS pings as fast as possible for more accurate map tracking and better coverage on hill tops in areas with poor cell coverage. I like the lazy, simple and reliable set-it-and-forget-it installation, but there are other advantages of a well hidden wired GPS tracker.
@@NomadSweden - The Invoxia GPS tracker can be used as a battery operated tracker, or it can be wired to charge from the bike with the internal battery as a backup. My Invoxia GPS tracker, the small 12V to USB charger and cable are all well hidden behind the headlight in the beak of my baby GS. It charges every time the bike is on. I installed it two years ago and never needed to recharge it. With my luck (that we make for ourselves), if I needed to recharge it, I'd forget or tell myself, "I'll do that next time" and then someone would steal my bike when the tracker battery is dead. Even if criminals stole my bike and put it in a steel shipping container over the winter, as soon as someone rode it, I'd get a notification. Charging as I ride also means I don't need to worry about low power modes to conserve battery life, so I have it sending GPS pings as fast as possible for more accurate map tracking and better coverage on hill tops in areas with poor cell coverage. I like the lazy, simple and reliable set-it-and-forget-it installation, but there are other advantages of a well hidden wired GPS tracker. I'm not interested in security that requires me to remember to charge air tags, etc. I'd forget, and the need for frequent removal for recharging would not allow the deep hiding place where my Invoxia tracker is hidden.
An Apple AirTag or Samsung SmartTag can be used for a much less expensive tracking solution, although less responsive and fewer features. They're cheap enough that both could be used to track your stolen bike with iPhones and Android phones. The thief may find one and eliminate it, not knowing the other is there. Tags could also be used as backups to a GPS tracker.
Thanks for great input as always. I will hide it better for sure. Downside with notifications is that they are muted easily and iPhone have limited options for that. But the SMS number I can make as an emergency number which will sound even if phone is in silent mode, and with a custom sound. I have asked them if they use the same SMS number always.
I like that the Sizzapp gives the option of push notifications (that I get with the Invoxia GPS tracker) or SMS texts. The latter would allow you to get a notification without the app running in the background. I like that. I'm concerned that apps track me and slow my phone.
Exactly what i wanted. Thought about it a view days ago and now i can buy it with some discount. Thanks
I use Apple Airtag (be sure to remove the speaker coil first so it does not beep and warn the thieves. @airtagalex showed us how this works).
Why? My Yamaha Dealership told me 2 things when I bought the machine: 1- thieves show up with GPS jammers anyway. 2- alarm systems make no sense either as thieves use construction foam (from the can) to silence anything that looks like a horn or speaker.
BTW: my insurance does cover add-on to the bike.
Yeah the thieves are smart, and an Airtag is a good addition.
If there is no ongoing fee, how does it use the mobile network? Do you have to supply your own simcard with a phone account?
Hi Nerb! There are "soft sims" available out the for global data connectivity over GSM made for "Internet of things". I have asked Sizzapp for more details. But you don't have to add or configure anything for the connectivity.
Thanks for sharing, great replacement for my PAJ tracker device that constantly drained the hell out of my battery and is also SIM driven. This is definitely a no-nonsense solution although I am still hoping a start-up firm will bring out an electro-shocker stun-gun chop your hands off thief deterrent device.
Hehe yeah that startup would have my money
Nice one Robert, paying the monthly subscription seems to be what every company wants us to do! Great review as ever and I cannot wait to hear about you upcoming trip
Thanks buddy
Riktigt bra! Det jag funderar på är just det här med batteriet. Jag brukar alltid underhålls ladda när jag har den hemma men tänker på längre resor. Å andra sidan så övernattar man och sedan åker vidare så det borde ju inte vara något problem. Bra tips!
Tackar! Jag tror 100-200mA per dygn inte är så illa. Borde klara sig rätt många dagar. Osäker på hur länge dock. Jag ska fråga tillverkaren.
So to disable gps just cover a bike with emergency metallic blanket from your aid kit and then load the bike to the truck ;)
There are always way to trick. Still i get notified the same second
Very good tracker ! one tip from me buy airtag too and hide it at tubeless tire(inside)
! cheers
Cool idea
Nice alerting system, Robert. Older bikes (like my Honda Transalp 600 PD06 or my Beta Alp 200) are less interesting for thieves ;-)
Hope your T7 never gets stolen. Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
Yeah that's a great way to avoid theft :D
I've read that it uses an e-sim that should work worldwide. But... it doesn't take long until 2G stops worldwide (and did stop in The Netherlands). And not long after that 3G stops. What band uses the build-in e-sim: 4G/LTE? Because that wil be the only long term solution for an investment like this.
Not sure about the bands. Need to check their website. In eastern/central Turkey i noticed it had 2 days out of reach but it later came back and updated those two days in retrospect. The rest of our long trip worked every day.
I use apple airdrops , it tracks every time an IPhone is close. It’s the size of a quarter but a little thicker. It’s size means it’s easy to hide!
That's a good backup. As long as there is an iPhone nearby. Imagine a thief with an iphone :D wouldn't last long.
I have this GPS tracker. Voltage since last ride (5-6 days) reduces to 12.4 V. For me, as I don’t commute everyday with bike - is a problem. Guys, do you have an idea what to use that it wouldn’t drain battery that hard?
Hmm I haven't left my bike stand for a week idle yet, but this would be a problem for sure. I will keep an eye on it.
It doesn't matter how well protected your bike is if they're determined they will get it, a tracker has recently turned in to the best money I've ever spent. Highley rate biketrac systems, so sensitive just taking the vehicle off the stand without the keys in the ignition sets it off & their team are calling you to warn you within a minute.
The fools thought putting it in a shipping container would scatter the signal but the bike was recovered in just over 24 hours.
Thanks for your story!
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You were sold a tracking device! 😀 the code was used. New, first of all, my motorcycle will be better protected.. secure a new hobby, work trip vehicle.
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Between the Sizzap and the Monimoto, which one do you think it's better? Suggestion: Get a friend with a Monimoto and do a video comparing both
Yes i have only tried this one. More expensive but then free forever
GREAT review! Thanks. My only concern is about how fast it will drain battery. Based on your experience how do you deal with it.
It drains faster for sure. But a week is no problem. Over winter when i ride less i have a charger connected. Thanks!
It should have a speaker that you can activate with an alarm or that you can talk to the criminals.
ok
But you will need to put a sim card in the GPS device to send SMS to your phone?
Nope. A built in lifetime esim handles that for free. There is not a slot for sims even
I noticed you wrapped your air filter at minute 3:18, could you tell me what filter or method is that? Thanks
I got this and just wrapped it around the intake. I noticed my air filter had a lot og debris. There are better ways than this but its better than nothing
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Hey Nomads! Thank you for the review. Thinking about purchasing the device. How is your experience after the Turkyie trip? Mainly how much does it drain battery in practice. Also aren't you getting random unnecessary notifications? Thanks!
It works well and I have it on the bike constantly. It's ok when you ride at least every week, but it darins the battery faster so longer than one week between rides it needs to be on charger. But I don't want to take it off now :)
Great idea. Especially for those of us who have 2x price of original bike in modifications and upgrades.
I assume the Sizzapp 4G does cellular triangulation across various cellular providers. In other word the subscription independent; baked into price. Sizzapp should do better job explaining how technology works on their website. I assume tracking is not in real time, but within some polling interval like every few minutes. Do you have to turn the Sizzapp on and off in evening so that you get SMS / notification if someone moves the bike?
I use something similar for tracking my pet ( dog ) to make sure he doesn't leave the yard or gets out.
Not sure how frequent the update is. I will gather some questions and send them. The device is always on, so it will notify always when it thinks something is happening. It does a good job there, but of course it notifies when I get my own bike. I can mute alerts for X hours through the app, but I'm ok with a notifier. Then I know it's working :)
Hi! How does it work when you go for a ride? Does it always notify you when you start it / get in out of the garage?
Yes it alerts if I dont start the engine first. I can also use the app to disable for a time but i rather ju let it alert.
Whats the flashing light on your display doing? I don't have that on mine?
Mine flashes like that when ignition is off. Like an alarm varning or something. Not sure
This device is made in Latvia, isn’t this where all the bike thieves live? :D
Don't think so
we don't know about where are living all the thieves, but we live in Latvia and we do just the opposite - produce great trackers to protect you from thieves :)
Thanks for the video! Maybe it should have been installed more discreetly or disguised in some way?
I will move it for sure, but the notifier will still go off if they break in under the saddle.
Great video..., Apologies for the unrelated question but I see you have the enduristan blizzard luggage. I saw your review on the monsoon3 but can't find one on the blizzards. I'm trying to decide between rackless luggage for my rally pro. Any help is massively appreciated!
Thanks! It’s a space thing.I use Monsoon when camping and bring alot. They are 30L each. I use Blizzard on the bike daily just to have some storage or on smaller excursions since they are 17L each.
@@NomadSweden thanks
Sizzapp seems to be good! But I will try the low cost Variant with some Airtags from Apple (with much less Features of course) first. If I am not happy I will try yours 😉
Airtags only work close to iphones right?
@@NomadSweden Yep thats right, but I read some Stories that People gladly found there stolen things like Bicycles or Motorbikes with it and you can nearly hide it anywhere. Of course the Chance will be lower as with Sizzapp but there still is a Chance, maybe you can also throw one into your Bike as a Backup they are not that expensive (4 Pieces 80 €) and you can share some with your Friends who will ride the Trip together with you
@@Speelbird could be a good backup
Did this device record your trip to Turkey? Can you get a gpx file from it? I am going to Alaska and want to record my trip and I was wondering if this tracker can do the job for me.
Hi yes it was on the Turkey trip and you can extraxt gpx from the app👍🏻
@@NomadSweden Thanks
device unplugged. like when you put it on girlfriend and her other boyfriend tries to unplug it. I like that. Also Judge can use it for speeding ticket. Phone app drain its battery? Cab the app be hacked in your phone?
👌👌👌
but it does require SIM card which requires active credit doesn't it?
Nope. eSim is built in with lifetime free data
@@NomadSweden all over the world? no roaming charges on your phone etc? cool
@@robsonenduro3316 correct!
How does it know you are riding the bike? I mean does it notify you every time YOU drive your bike 😅
If the bike is started the voltage of the battery increases and that means you are using the bike. Thats my guess at least beacuse when it running its not alerting.
But mving the bike before starting sends alert every time
So when charging the motorcycle battery the alarm think you are driving and deactivate or ??
Does this mean that you always get an alert when you yourself is starting a ride?
Yes. Unless i first disable using the app. But i rather get the notifier. I expect it.
But if i work on the bike I can snooze the bike for X hours.
Det borde vara så i appen att man kunde välja av / på automatiskt
Och att av även ger crashlarm till anhörig
Även ett automatiskt nattläge ifall man glömmer typ 22-08
What size are those Enduristan saddle bags?
Those are the Large size of the Blizzard.
@@NomadSweden if i may ask… do you prefer the Adventure Spec side racks or maybe the Rally Raid side racks are better for the job in therms of crash bend-in durability while holding soft bags. I know you may have not tested the Rally Raid ones but I am curious maybe you know something. Thanks
@@elionh4532 as tou said I have ever only had these racks. But I think the RR racks are tougher. My AS racks bend inward if I fall with luggage and i have to bend them out again.
@@NomadSweden are the enduristan blizzards durable enough not to tare apart in offroad crashes?
@@elionh4532 It has worked for me and I still have them after 4 years. But I have heard others who ripped them. If you want really tough stuff I would go for Mosko Moto. But I think they weight a lot and are a bit too tough.
Ser jätte enkel ut. Behöver den inget SIM-kort i Sizzapp enheten?
Hej. Inget mer behövs och inget kostar mer än köpet. Det kan kommunicera via GSM på samma sätt som bilar kan idag. Dvs inget mobilabonnemang eller så.
@@NomadSweden Tack. Jättebra!
I meant AirTag
Is that the rally
Siat ?
Nope, standard seat
@@NomadSweden okay . That looks so comfort .. mine is more flat
I Think
If its standard its the same
Im waiting for patenting similar device ,just my it’s going blow your balls after 5 km of riding.
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Caveat Emptor. They may not have monthly fees _now_ , but a number of companies have used a similar model - hook you now with no fees, introduce fees later when you have no choice.
Perhaps, but I spoke to them and they guarantee free forever. In a way you actually pay in advance since the device is more expensive than those with subscription. They could not have that price if they also charge subscription. Lets see what the future brings.