Platinum Refining Bromate Hydrolysis Pt2

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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  • @saronabashti6495
    @saronabashti6495 Рік тому +14

    This operation is very dangerous, but it was a wonderful job, and I take my hat off to you for the efforts you made for your viewers.

  • @josephschnabel1andonly
    @josephschnabel1andonly Рік тому +13

    This project is scary but intriguing. I cant imagine how much more difficult and thought out the process would be in a sealed fume hood.
    Looking forward to part 3.

  • @alexanderkroboth3310
    @alexanderkroboth3310 Рік тому +10

    From my experience you actually don't need that much ammonium chloride. In order to precipitate hexachloroplatinic acid as ammonium hexachloroplatinate you actually only need a stoichiometric amount of ammonium chloride, so 2 mols per mol dissolved platinum. This will cause almost all the platinum to precipitate as ammonium hexachloroplatinate. A small amount will still remain in solution, since the solubility of that salt is 7g/L water at 15°C. Using saturated ammonium chloride solution would probably decrease it's solubility due to the common ion effect, so you'll get a tiny bit more precipitate. But instead I added ethanol to the solution (about 2 times it's volume) which crashed out practically all the ammonium hexachloroplatinate. There was no yellow color left in the solution and my yield was pretty much quantitative. I also added hydrazine sulfate to the filtrate which would reduce any hexachloroplatinate to metallic platinum and I saw nothing. For this method the solution should be relatively concentrated though, otherwise you'll waste a lot of ethanol.
    And nickel would make a light green color, and this procedure would have removed it. The extremely dark red color of the solution after dissolving the precipitate also indicates iridium. The only other platinum group metals that have such an intense color in solution are palladium and probably rhodium, and you've already ruled out palladium and it's also for sure not rhodium. Iridium is the only thing that makes sense to me, since it also said 90% Pt 10% Ir on the rings. Separating platinum from iridium seems like a very difficult task, maybe I can see if I could find some information about that.

    • @GokouZWAR
      @GokouZWAR Рік тому +1

      How can he test for iridium?

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +9

      It’s all way over my head. This has turned my enjoyable hobby into real work. Thanks for the input.

    • @alexanderkroboth3310
      @alexanderkroboth3310 Рік тому

      @@GokouZWAR I don't know a qualitative test for Iridium, but by how it looks you can be quite sure it's Iridium. It also said that on the rings.

  • @SenorTucano
    @SenorTucano Рік тому +3

    Every time I watch one of your videos I’m silently impressed by the sheer competence you display with your basic laboratory skills. It’s wonderful to watch a master at work. 😊

  • @b.c.9358
    @b.c.9358 Рік тому +11

    Please be safe. I know you're very careful, so I'm only a little worried. You work so hard to provide us with this educational (and entertaining) content, thank you.

  • @guyhiebert
    @guyhiebert Рік тому +2

    I want to say you are a good person not just because you share the process of refining but because you are conscientious of handling the toxic and treating it so it does not get poured into the sewer system and poison the environment. I'm not a tree hugger nor an environmentalist but I do care about how the environment should be cared for.

  • @stephenconner-py1gk
    @stephenconner-py1gk Рік тому

    Conner is here and I'm sharing your videos with all my good people hoping somebody will launch this with me. I want your job! Great service your doing.

    • @stephenconner-py1gk
      @stephenconner-py1gk Рік тому

      Bringing gold back to our economy

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      Conner, I’m on the gold standard. You can go on it yourself. You don’t need to wait for someone to do it for you. Paper dollars are declining. Gold and silver are rising. Paper dollars can printed into existence. Gold and silver can’t be printed. The dollar is a Ponzi and it requires third-party validation. Gold and silver are real money and need no third-party validation, they stand on their. Which would you rather use to store your savings? And the best part: nobody knows you’ve got it, unless you tell them. If you need paper to pay bills or buy food, then sell a little of your metal.

  • @cheerdiver
    @cheerdiver Рік тому +2

    4:20 Cut the coffee filters to fit the bottom of the Buchner funnel.
    The edges will always lift, preventing a proper seal.
    HCL doesn't affect coffee filter paper, yet double the paper to prevent pin hole pull through.

  • @patpawlowski7635
    @patpawlowski7635 Рік тому +4

    I Enjoy seeing you encounter something new, I’m not familiar at all with the iridium contamination but I suspect that is what is making your precipitate pink

  • @ut000bs
    @ut000bs Рік тому +2

    The leftovers could also contain ruthenium and cobalt since both are used to make platinum alloys for jewelry. Not sure if iridium is used more often. Iridium is rare. Also, most iridium salts/oxides are green or black.
    Cobalt nitrate is a possible when it comes to color. This salt is red/brown.
    Hard to see anything ruthenium in there because most of those oxides you would see in there are black unless you snuck in some fluorine.
    Cobalt is the cheapest. 😉

  • @jasonhorvath3089
    @jasonhorvath3089 Рік тому +1

    Hey Sreetips, thanks for the great content. I watch all your videos and really appreciate the work you put into it. You have taught me and many others quite a bit. That's a difficult thing to do and you do it well. God bless you and your family!

  • @garrettleepful
    @garrettleepful Рік тому

    I've not been able to sleep and I've just been watching hours of your metal and gold refining and I love it so much!! I've always loved chemistry and hope I can try my hand at refining some day. Keep up the work

  • @richardbreisch8049
    @richardbreisch8049 Рік тому +1

    You must truly enjoy refining to put yourself through this for us to watch. Thank you sreetips!

  • @marcyd2007
    @marcyd2007 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for explaining the waste treatment some more, it's very much appreciated.

  • @asjamuir5534
    @asjamuir5534 Рік тому

    You asking us to please understand your level of competency with refining certain metals int something u have to say we all watch and appreciate the job u do and seeing you learn as u go is an awesome watch the process and your ability to solve the issues calmly is amazing your always so full of information while being humble and honest with your viewers and for that I will always love watching the content

  • @rossm412
    @rossm412 Рік тому +2

    I enjoy your channel and appreciate the wisdom you share. Thank you

  • @robertsletten7466
    @robertsletten7466 Рік тому +3

    To help improve your safety .... I was thinking you could build a removable Plate to cover the front of your fume hood with sand blasting type pass though gloves ... or you could chop up a HF sandblaster... Just 2 cents worth ... great job!!

  • @danielberding7692
    @danielberding7692 Рік тому +1

    I just listened to you about the 5 troy ounces you sold I believe what your saying I'm collecting some silver and gold but more copper brass and bronze and aluminum but working towards more silver and gold thank you for your knowledge your amazing

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      When I buy metals, I’m not expensing. Food is an expense, gasoline, clothes, light bill, water, almost everything else is an expense and i’ll never see another nickel of it ever again. Not so with precious metals. Precious metals are not an expense. When I buy metal, what i’m actually doing is trading paper, that’s declining, for metal, that’s rising. In my opinion (I’m not trying to give you financial advice) I can’t go wrong buying precious metals. Not as an investment, but rather as insurance against the declining paper dollars. Storing wealth in metal protects me from those who plunder the savers. They can’t print more gold and silver.

  • @shaneyearby4438
    @shaneyearby4438 Рік тому +3

    What a difference in technique it takes to refine platinum and gold. Great videos so far and it's very interesting.

  • @Antonowskyfly
    @Antonowskyfly Рік тому

    You’re welcome. It is quite the feat to plow through this refine. Gold is described as “God excrement” in an ancient tongue, it wouldn’t be incorrect to say platinum is “devil excrement”. Thank you Sir!👍👍🤟

  • @MARKE911
    @MARKE911 Рік тому +3

    This appears to be 100x's more difficult than Au. Crazy... I enjoy watching

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      It’s grueling. I don’t know why I chose to do it. I’m in over my head.

  • @93matarl
    @93matarl Рік тому +2

    the stir bars can get demagnetized over time, especially when they are heated, but that will take time.

  • @hardergamer
    @hardergamer Рік тому

    Super cool seeing the drying out at the end.

  • @TechneMoira
    @TechneMoira Рік тому

    Very interesting series, me Sreetips :) I'm avidly following how you manage the refinement of the (dangerous) Platinum metal... one thing I noticed is, how much effort it takes to refine a tiny amount of 10+ grams as compared to gold. Also, yes a stirbar is basically a neodymium magnet surrounded by a chemically neutral coating and those magnets can fail over time as they go through several heating/cooling cycles. The magnetic medium can't really take those repeated temperature swings without (slowly) losing their magnetivity... in other words, the more frequent you'll subject your magnetic stirbars to heating cycles the quicker you'll have to replace them
    Fun Fact: "cooking" something in a bath of hot water is also called "Au bain Marie" by the French :)

  • @scrapitjc
    @scrapitjc Рік тому

    Always intrigued on your process of what you do. Keeps me interested.

  • @arnedalbakk6315
    @arnedalbakk6315 Рік тому

    Hello Mrs and Mr sreetips. You did the woork yust fine sir. I was supricing to how muth solids it was. Stay safe my friend. Great clip. Arne

  • @mrtank1967
    @mrtank1967 Рік тому

    I look forward to your next video I find your science projects fascinating, science was never my strong suit in school but as I get older you have brought some interest back, thank you for all your hard work. Happy New Year to you both.

  • @matheuspamplona1850
    @matheuspamplona1850 Рік тому

    im loving this series so much! thank you for explaining how dangerous is all this, i learn a lot from your videos

  • @josephcormier5974
    @josephcormier5974 Рік тому

    This reaffirm that it's not worth it for a hobby refiner thank you for sharing this with us I have learned a lot from you six stars brother

  • @jacobverble107
    @jacobverble107 Рік тому

    Also, great job and thanks. This series has been a nice surprise. I always enjoy watching your channel.

  • @jonathannorthup5705
    @jonathannorthup5705 Рік тому

    You could probably remagnetize your stir bar by sticking it to one of your big neo magnets and leave it there till you need it 👌

  • @ArielleViking
    @ArielleViking Рік тому

    Really fascinating and I'm looking forward to seeing part 3. 👍

  • @XM202LadyTrucker
    @XM202LadyTrucker Рік тому

    I have learned so much from your videos and starting to LOL because your fails WILL SAVE ME A WHOLE LOT OF CUSSING when I refine. So a couple of questions. 1) Have you Acid washed beakers & flasks b4 use? 2) would De ionized water help the chemical process be more successful? My environmental Chemistry knowledge from back in 1995 which I haven't used since then....we used filtered DI water for EVERYTHING. ACID washed containers for the Chemistry that needed it. Also good Chemistry hygiene: NO OBJECTS IN CHEMICAL CONTAINERS! THE CHEMICALS CAN BE CONTAMINATED!!!! POUR CHEMICALS IN2 ANOTHER CONTAINER then scoop them out.😎. ASLO.....DO NOT PLACE ENTIRE PACK OF FILTER PAPER IN HOOD!!!!!!!! THEY MAY BE GETTING CONTAMINATED!!!!! I winched when you used your "dirty gloves" to grab filter paper, which the box was in hood, next to beaker that could have splashed fluid on filter box contaminating WHOLE BOX. WHAT WAS ON YOUR GLOVES WHEN YOU GRABBED THE FILTER PAPER? Please please please 🙏 leave filter box out of hood, do not let contaminated gloved hands touch stack of papers in the future. Use tweezers or pre assemble filter paper in funnel. I believe if you re establishe GOOD CHEMISTRY HYGIENE PRACTICES. ⚗️ OH L👀K the emoji has copper in it! Just want to end this by saying YOU ROCK AND ARE TICKLING MY BRAIN CELLS! 💖😎

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      1) no. 2) I use distilled water contaminants measured in parts per million. Except for chlorine, tap water is ppm also. Not enough to report in a PM assay. The other stuff, thanks for pointing it out.

  • @AndyGraceMedia
    @AndyGraceMedia Рік тому +2

    To all the people mentioning iridium, I'll go out on a limb here and say it's almost definitely not an iridium salt. Iridium hates to go into solution even in aqua regia and in fact that was how it was discovered in the early 1800s. It was the insoluble residue after dissolving platinum for ages. As it happens, that was probably a combination of both iridium and osmium but the scientist at the time correctly concluded it was a different metal from platinum.
    The amount of iridium metal was pretty small; only 10% of one ring which probably weighed say 3 grams maximum, so it would only be 300mg of metal and that would have been most of what was left after all the AR boils.
    When sreetips concentrated the dihydrogen hexachloroplatinate on the hot plate without the stir bar working, he would have put enough heat into that viscous liquid (approx 350 degrees C) to drive off a couple of chloride ions which bond with free H+ ions to form HCl and reduced the anion to the Pt(II) oxidation state... tetrachloroplatinate (2-) which is a weird one. Then the PtCl4 was in the hydrate form before the ammonium chloride was added, and thereafter the ammonium ions dissociated and formed ammonium tetrachloroplatinate salt which is the evil strawberry milkshake! :). Search online - the color looks exactly right.
    The fact it happened twice is pretty much confirmation that's what occurred but it won't matter - calcining is the right way to go, albeit turning a really valuable precursor for medical experiments into a slightly less valuable metal button.

    • @alexanderkroboth3310
      @alexanderkroboth3310 Рік тому +2

      After dissolving the metals he got a clear solution, so the iridium has to be in solution, where else should it have gone? And it's already apparent that iridium is going in solution while he was dissolving it due to the intensely dark red color the solution had, you couldn't even see through that. Hexachloroplatinic acid isn't that dark, it is orange and even a concentrated solution like 30% isn't that strongly colored. Iridium might be extremely resistant as a pure metal, but if it's 10% in an alloy it's a different story. You also have this with platinum, pure platinum isn't soluble in nitric acid, but if you dissolve an alloy of 95% palladium and 5% platinum in nitric acid all of it will go into solution.

    • @AndyGraceMedia
      @AndyGraceMedia Рік тому +2

      ​@@alexanderkroboth3310 Agreed, it could well be - certainly makes some sense, but there was still some metal left undissolved after the 12 hours of multiple intense boils. Iridium ,if you can get it in solution, forms coordination complexes which from my (granted hazy) memory aren't overly understood and can display just about any colour depending on the structure. I remember this as my inorganic professor was a world expert in developing Pt and Ir complexes as anti-cancer treatments. I however was a lowly student so take my suggestion with a grain of Pt salt. Cheers and thanks for the reply.

    • @alexanderkroboth3310
      @alexanderkroboth3310 Рік тому

      @@AndyGraceMedia In that alloy the iridium was evenly mixed with the platinum, so if it would dissolve away all the platinum and leave the iridium behind you should end up with a powder or some spongy metal like how you have when dissolving the silver out of inquarted gold, but these were solid pieces of metal. And in Aqua regia, which is mostly HCl you'll have the hexachloroiridate complex, which has a dark red color. Anyway, thanks as well, have a nice day.

  • @CuttinEJ
    @CuttinEJ Рік тому +1

    I hesitate to make any comment on the process because I don’t have any experience with PGMs and no recent experience with gold or silver. But I think you could probably start with considerably more of the solute medium ( distilled water or HCl). It seems that the medium frequently becomes saturated before the Nitric is consumed, stalling the reaction. At the end of each process, if the concentration needs to be increased, you could always evaporate. But in most cases you need to dilute, so it probably wouldn’t be a problem or increase the volume of your waste stream. Just a thought. I’m really enjoying watching this series. Happy New Year, Chief 🎉

    • @roberthayward9299
      @roberthayward9299 Рік тому

      Interesting suggestion Ed. I'm thinking that the limiting factor is more likely the surface area of the platinum. Platinum is the most ductile of all metals and is second only to gold in its malleability. My suggestion would be to run the metal strips through the sheet forming mill several times after heat treating it to reduce any work hardening.

    • @CuttinEJ
      @CuttinEJ Рік тому +3

      @@roberthayward9299 it’s not actually heat treating. He’s just incinerating to remove any remaining organic contaminants. Saturation will stall the reaction with any metal. The solute can only hold so much and when it reaches that point, no amount of Nitric or surface area will make it continue. Adding more of the solute medium will, however, restart a stalled reaction. I know it doesn’t matter all that much when he is processing inquarted gold because of the concurrent silver refining, but other processes may benefit from increased solute medium.

    • @buggsy5
      @buggsy5 Рік тому

      @@CuttinEJ Sreetips has done exactly that on some of his gold refining videos. He added more HCl when the reaction stopped, rather than more HNO3.
      One of the dissolution steps (2nd? 3rd?) produced a lot of brown fumes when poured into the temporary stock pot. That is a sure sign that more non-HNO3 solute is needed.

  • @azwelke2638
    @azwelke2638 Рік тому

    Thank you for doing this. So far this is making a platinum eagle look like a bargain at todays price.

  • @АлександрЕрмолаев-л6ж

    У автора видео чётко выпал гексахлорпалладат аммония. То что диметилглиоксим не сработал, свидетельствует о том что палладий был в степени окисления +4 в то время как дмг работает только с 2 валентным палладием. Судя по цвету осадка красного, там больше 90% хлорпалладата аммония и возможно примесью платины. Иридия судя по цвету нет, так как если бы он был в растворе то с хлористый аммонием дал бы чёрные игольчатые кристаллы отлично различимые даже в такой каше.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      It’s confusing, especially for a novice like myself.

    • @АлександрЕрмолаев-л6ж
      @АлександрЕрмолаев-л6ж Рік тому

      Тебе надо было восстановить палладий до +2 тогда дмг сработал бы отлично. А платина осталась бы в растовре

  • @floydsallee2041
    @floydsallee2041 Рік тому

    This is the first I've seen this, amazing dude I can't to see the final video. Love what you do.

  • @fredkloster7895
    @fredkloster7895 Рік тому

    what a task. Love your drive Sir!

  • @TroubledOnePaydirt
    @TroubledOnePaydirt Рік тому

    This is a terrifying process. I don’t think I’d be messing with platinum much if I was doin this stuff.

  • @Etoxiran
    @Etoxiran Рік тому

    If you have such clean wastes from this process it would be better to use zinc/aluminum to drop PGM, and filter than mixing it with copper - just my 3 cents. I use cotton wool pressed into plastic funnel to catch precious particles on wool.
    If there are basic metal in solution - they can be removed with formic precipitation [at least partially]. pH increase rate is key for this, and bromate hydrolysis too.
    I admire you spend so many hours on that.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      A charmin plug. The copper in my stock pot is a “catch-all”

  • @krsulock
    @krsulock Рік тому +2

    Iridium metal is notably inert to reaction with acids, including aqua regia. The only substances that will dissolve the metal are molten sodium cyanide (NaCN) and potassium cyanide (KCN). So says google. So in theory, any iridium would have remained a solid. Might be part of what was remaining in early Pt1 vid with small undissolved bits?

    • @buggsy5
      @buggsy5 Рік тому

      The ring contained 10% Iridium. If it wasn't dissolving, I would expect a lot more than the tiny amount of undissolved material Sreetips had left after the digestion.

  • @bigpoppa4005
    @bigpoppa4005 Рік тому

    This is fascinating! I cannot wait to see part 3!

  • @D_A86
    @D_A86 Рік тому

    Fascinating stuff 🥹

  • @BogdanTimofte
    @BogdanTimofte Рік тому +1

    The the magnetic stirrer wears out.
    Googling for "magnet experiments what happens when a magnet is heated" you will get the explanation:
    "When heated above 176° Fahrenheit (80° Celsius), magnets will quickly lose their magnetic properties. The magnet will become permanently demagnetized if exposed to these temperatures for a certain length of time or heated at a significantly higher temperature (Curie temperature)."

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      I didn’t know that until this series. Thank you

  • @inglbrute
    @inglbrute Рік тому +2

    I read that you can supposedly seperate pt from iridium by disolving the platinum from the mixed salts in dilute AR on gentle heat. It should leave metallic iridium behind. I'm not sure what exactly dilute means. Maybe you had some of it on the first run, just before you were going to filter it? I dunno. Good effort tho. You'll get it figured out, I'm sure.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      No matter how careful, some of the Pt would get left behind with the iridium. And some of the iridium would follow the platinum and go in solution. That’s the nature of these six sister metals (platinum, palladium, rhodium, iridium, Osmium, ruthenium). They hate to be separated. They don’t cooperate. I’m afraid that I’m in deep water with this series. Maybe I should have left it alone.

  • @calvincraft2580
    @calvincraft2580 Рік тому

    All these things you refine are fascinating. Thanks for the vlogs Yeshua Is The Way, The Truth and The life. Prayers for our world.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      And thankfully so. I can’t imagine being stuck here forever. There’s an end to this madness called “life on earth.”

  • @merc7105
    @merc7105 Рік тому

    You make pretty colours. Mad respect. Thank you.

  • @ousley421
    @ousley421 Рік тому +1

    Anyone planning on recovering and refining platinum from catalytic converters should really think twice about the amount of time chemicals and hazards.

  • @wilsonrawlin8547
    @wilsonrawlin8547 Рік тому +1

    Now we know why you don't make a practice of refining platinum. Seems like a lot of work and very dangerous.

  • @montazvideo
    @montazvideo Рік тому

    It is really strange for me. In like 95% of your videos you usually do almost the same stuff, but nevertheless I'm always waiting to see another one. :) So you know... a little dosage of something new is even more interesting no matter your experience. We all learn from your mistakes. Cheers!

  • @alquimiavsmetalica5250
    @alquimiavsmetalica5250 Рік тому

    What you mean is that industrial Zinc contains palladium, but there is no rate per kilogram, only how it is processed.
    As a lab man you are amazing but the metallurgical tricks are missing if you take the zinc for an estimated time in an induction furnace that reaches the stable temperature 1°C below . When the zinc boils, it begins to oxidize and becomes a metallic gas that can later be catalyzed in water and leaves palladium, platinum and rhodium as residues. For this reason, old zinc is so expensive due to the high content of platinum group metals in naval scrap yards there are thousands of buyers of this Zinc from ingots (Bota Mar).

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      Nice, I didn’t know that.

  • @Kerhuz
    @Kerhuz Рік тому

    Love all your content!
    This platinum thing though... Seems nasty and difficult to work with. Don't want anything bad to happen to you. Take care with this stuff!

  • @MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio

    It's interesting how such a silvery metal is a dark, brownish orange in solution.

  • @brianhbinesh
    @brianhbinesh Рік тому

    Cough cough...mass spectrometer ;) still waiting for that go fund me... I would donate towards it.

  • @joshua.snyder
    @joshua.snyder Рік тому

    Not to split hairs, but when you put the waste solutions into your stock pot, you referred to "toxic metals", technically the platinum salts are toxic, not the metal. Regardless, caution is important. Thanks, Kevin.

  • @jewellerydesignerartists9353

    Nice work 🙏

  • @NOFX0890
    @NOFX0890 Рік тому

    Fantastic Sreetips.
    Your results are looking great so far..
    I would put my 2 cents on the second metal indicated by your stannous test being the iridium from the alloy. It had to go somewhere....

  • @GokouZWAR
    @GokouZWAR Рік тому +3

    Is there going to be a part 3 for a bar of platinum or is this considered complete?

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      I’m working on part three.

  • @HolySoliDeoGloria
    @HolySoliDeoGloria Рік тому +1

    15:00 I've looked up "cement" for a definition for the way you are using it, but I can't find any definition that makes sense. Do you mean "precipitate"? Or are you referring to a different chemical process? It's been a long time since I studied chemistry! Thanks!

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      Cementing is a term used in the refining community to describe the reaction of metals coming out of solution on another metal that’s more reactive than the metal being cemented. Silver is less reactive than copper. So if I put a piece of copper (more reactive) into a silver nitrate solution, the silver (being less reactive) will “cement” out on the copper as the copper goes into solution. Please see “Reactivity Series of Metals” for more on this.

    • @HolySoliDeoGloria
      @HolySoliDeoGloria Рік тому

      @@sreetips Thank you for explaining the term! I will watch that series. Now I can also search for the term more effectively, too, for more information.

  • @KD0CAC
    @KD0CAC Рік тому

    Like watching a mystery movie ;)
    Thanks again

  • @Fambamm-ib6pw
    @Fambamm-ib6pw Рік тому +1

    Thanks again for sharing

  • @newtronix
    @newtronix Рік тому

    I hope you're wearing level 6 gloves!

  • @professorxgaming2070
    @professorxgaming2070 Рік тому

    I found that my magnetic stirs like that will lose their magnetivity when heated over a certain temperature. They make high temperature magnetic stirs which can handle a little more heat

  • @KKarl1337
    @KKarl1337 Рік тому

    Great videos

  • @jacobverble107
    @jacobverble107 Рік тому

    The other stir bar is too small for that beaker. The new one works, but you'd be guaranteed to keep the precipitate suspended the whole time if you had a stir bar that was 35mm or longer.

  • @rhysfirth3506
    @rhysfirth3506 Рік тому

    Interesting it's pink when iridium hexachloride trihydrate is green/black. Through hexachloroplatinic acid is noted as reddish brown, it would have made sense for the iridium to have darkened rather than lightened the precipitate.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      These metals are baffling to me. Completely out of my comfort zone here.

  • @marticus42
    @marticus42 Рік тому

    Working late! Love the content.
    I do hope you have a great night!

  • @jamisontaylor878
    @jamisontaylor878 Рік тому

    Excellent video once again thank you 😊 🙏

  • @raziel23x
    @raziel23x Рік тому +2

    Processing Rusty Metals into Versatile Prussian Blue is a thing you could do with the rust waste water when cementing out copper

  • @womblestacker7993
    @womblestacker7993 Рік тому

    Nice womble stacker well done sir

  • @ExtractingMetals
    @ExtractingMetals Рік тому

    I’m stumped, my research shows iridium should not dissolve in aqua regia. It should have been left behind. It might not be Ir.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      Iridium alloyed with platinum - everything dissolves.

  • @xKateshi
    @xKateshi Рік тому

    Working with platinum looks like a pain in the ass

  • @laughinghyena001
    @laughinghyena001 Рік тому +1

    How do you clean the "dishes"?
    Have you considered leaving a glass rod in the beaker to control the splash from pouring?

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      Rinse with distilled water then scrub with alconox.

  • @rsnow32
    @rsnow32 Рік тому

    How do you clean your beakers? Do you use soap and water? And where? You use so many chemicals, are you able to do them in a normal kitchen sink or do you have a special process?

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      Acidic solutions rinse clean with water. Then I scrub with alconox and air dry.

  • @daviddpg
    @daviddpg Рік тому

    This seems like it was a real pain. Though still interesting.

  • @BBAYDURCAN
    @BBAYDURCAN Рік тому +1

    Hello there ,
    I refined 6 kg 14 carats.
    I added 60 ml of sulfuric acid to the king water.
    I had to buy 3630 gr has.
    160 grams was missing.
    Does sulfuric acid damage gold?
    I would be very happy if you provide information.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +2

      No, sulfuric should not damage the gold.

  • @Kuznia_
    @Kuznia_ Рік тому

    Wish you nothing but the best in 2023

  • @thesarge4457
    @thesarge4457 Рік тому

    Please be careful Sir. Thank You Sir. THE SARGE

  • @davidgreen2379
    @davidgreen2379 Рік тому

    Oh, oh this is IT! PART TWO, ...OH YEAH

  • @CatboyChemicalSociety
    @CatboyChemicalSociety Рік тому

    when did you add the sodium bromate because that step is what is supposed to seperate out the Pt from the Ir and it is done during the time that both are in solution (dark black). to seperate out the iridium while leaving the Pt behind in solution.
    pure chloroplatinic acid is dark red in color.

  • @tracywilson1356
    @tracywilson1356 Рік тому

    We are thinking that we would like to attempt gold refining ourselves. I was wondering if you could tell me where you get your supplies. The beakers, glass acid bottles, pipettes, funnels, etc. I’ve found some stuff on Amazon, but as we all know, some of the quality of the things on there can be suspect, and if I’m going to be messing with acids and other scary chemicals I’d like to have stuff I know won’t fall apart at the first drop of chemicals in it.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      First, get a fume hood. No way to do reactions safely without one. I buy all my glassware on eBay. I buy most of my chemicals from Ace Hardware, and eBay.

    • @tracywilson1356
      @tracywilson1356 Рік тому

      @@sreetips thank you for replying. I’ll definitely check eBay. Didn’t even think about that.

  • @daviddavis9137
    @daviddavis9137 Рік тому

    Gooood morning from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great day!

  • @sithyarael6807
    @sithyarael6807 Рік тому +1

    So what and how do you wash all the Pyrex and corning ware that you us? Dishwasher or just use distilled water? Do the chemicals not screw with the GoPros or they always outside the fume hoot?

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      The solutions are acidic and rinse right out with water. After a while, the GoPro will fail from those acid fumes.

    • @sithyarael6807
      @sithyarael6807 Рік тому

      I watch a streamer that does a lot of fishing streams out of Australia and the salt water and air kills his cameras quick. Mainly the connections on the the battery packs. And happens faster than you think I can imagine that acid does it quicker.

  • @JFANDHISPEOPLE
    @JFANDHISPEOPLE Рік тому

    Make sure bucket isnt leaking, saw the pattern of it on the table, cant tell what liquid made it

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      Sometimes rain water is on the bucket. That’s why I set them on cardboard.

  • @cullenpurkis4593
    @cullenpurkis4593 Рік тому

    How is this a bromate synthesis? I didn't see you use any bromate salts, only chlorides.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      This a new (to me) process that I’ve never tried. Until now.

  • @bw4593
    @bw4593 Рік тому

    Def seems like not worth the trouble! I would guess the coating and mixing gold with PMG’s is annoying for you at this point lol

  • @scotthultin7769
    @scotthultin7769 Рік тому

    111👍's up sreetips thank you for sharing this video with us all

  • @davidrowe9168
    @davidrowe9168 Рік тому

    Hi Sreetips. According to three independent sources that I found on the web, iridium is not solvable in boiling aqua regia

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      I know. But in my experience, I’ve seen many things happen that weren’t supposed to. And many thing that weren’t supposed to happen, happen. A 90/10 Pt/Ir alloy - everything dissolves in hot AR. Also, a 95/5, silver/Pt alloy - everything dissolves in hot nitric. I’ve seen hot hydrochloric dissolve small amounts of platinum. I’ve put gold in solution with boiling nitric. These hard and fast rules can all be broken. It’s an enigma.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      On the other hand, if I tried to dissolve a piece of iridium in boiling aqua regia then nothing would happen. It would probably just sit there, looking back at you, unaffected. And that’s where the hot AR/Ir rule comes from.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia Рік тому

      @@sreetips That's one of the reasons that I love your channel. You do the experiments to determine what actually happens. I'll look around to see what I can learn.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia Рік тому

      Here is an excerpt from nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ScientificPapers/nbsscientificpaper483vol19p325_A2b.pdf
      The authors formed an alloy of the Pt/Ir sample with Pb by fusion. They then dissolved away the lead using nitric and then aqua regia. The complete procedure is in the paper, which is from the 1920's.
      "In his researches on platinum-iridium alloys Deville discovered that when he dissolved in lead at a high temperature platinum
      alloyed with iridium, rhodium, palladium, iron, and copper he was able to effect a very distinct separation of the platinum metals.
      The lead formed alloys with all of the platinum, rhodium, palladium, and copper and with a very small proportion of the iron.
      The iridium, ruthenium, and iron formed a separate alloy containing no lead. Boiling dilute nitric acid removed the bulk of the
      lead, together with the palladium and copper and a small proportion of the platinum and rhodium. Digestion' of the residue with
      warm dilute aqua regia left insoluble only the alloy of iridium, ruthenium, and iron."

  • @chrish1585
    @chrish1585 Рік тому +6

    This process seems rather dangerous, messy, and really not worth the effort as a regular thing. Just my humble opinion. Really cool reactions though! Love how it turned red like a strawberry milkshake.

    • @Heymrk
      @Heymrk Рік тому +1

      He knows that. If he doesn't do something the algorithm will bury his content.

    • @PaulAllee
      @PaulAllee Рік тому

      It's a really neat hobby and he makes plenty of change on the gold it's worth it for him

  • @jwrappuhn71
    @jwrappuhn71 Рік тому

    Excellent.

  • @RollingRoadEFI
    @RollingRoadEFI Рік тому

    Time to do some sketchy shi, doo daa, doo daa, hope I get a-way with it.... doe de do da daaay.

  • @digofthedump
    @digofthedump Рік тому

    would tin not capture the platinum group metals as it have a higher melting point than lead?? gl

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      We want to keep tin away from precious metals.

  • @apveening
    @apveening Рік тому

    I would have poured the waste in a clean stock pot (and maybe on silver instead of copper), now it mixes in with your silver and will contaminate your silver cement and later on the slime, causing more problems down the line.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      I keep silver away from my stock pot

    • @apveening
      @apveening Рік тому

      @@sreetips OK, normally you cement gold out on silver and silver out on copper, as you were cementing out on copper, I got a bit confused.

  • @jerrybanks4482
    @jerrybanks4482 Рік тому

    I have been curious for a while now but if you have all that cement silver and pure silver crystals, why do you use antique silverware and other utensil's to enquart gold? why not just use the cement silver or even the pure crystals?

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      Palladium will build up in the cement silver if it’s used over and over. Pure silver crystal has already been through the silver cell - like taking a step backwards.

  • @marcyd2007
    @marcyd2007 Рік тому

    Do you use a the Patreon service or anything similar?

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      I don’t have patreon, sorry.

  • @heliarche
    @heliarche Рік тому

    On your waste solutions, when it gets to the acidic iron solution, what do you do with that? Baking soda to neutralize it and down the drain? Do you have to take it to someone for disposal?

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      Sodium hydroxide. Baking soda doesn’t have the punch.

    • @heliarche
      @heliarche Рік тому

      @@sreetips Gotcha. Then it's safe to go down the drain?

    • @XM202LadyTrucker
      @XM202LadyTrucker Рік тому

      Acid plus base make salt and water. Just make sure pH is right.

  • @marklindberg2230
    @marklindberg2230 Рік тому

    Where does your fume hood exhaust to, is there a scrubber on it?

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому

      No scrubber, outdoors away from my work area.

  • @mikeshaw201118
    @mikeshaw201118 Рік тому

    I used to hate transition metal chemistry, they form some weird complexes and never the one you wanted. I always thought of them as the moody teenager of the periodic table !! Organic chemistry was a lot more predictable (sometimes 🤣)

    • @grebulocities8225
      @grebulocities8225 Рік тому +1

      Organic chemistry predictably turns into orange-brown tar.

    • @sreetips
      @sreetips  Рік тому +1

      The platinum group metals - are demon children. They hate being separated.

  • @srteach70
    @srteach70 Рік тому +1

    some types of magnets will lose their magnetic field when heated