Excellent review! I purchased the previous version of this tent in part due to reports of how well it handles wind for such an ultralight tent. I remember reading about a tent design that was incredibly wind resistant. To my, admittedly foggy, memory it funneled wind in between the tent body and the fly , or some similar design mechanism, which resulted in its incredible wind resistance. I wonder if the cut out on the fly is accomplishing something similar , not just saving weight.
Thanks for the interesting comment. Yep, as I use the tent more, I think I observe the phenomenon you describe. It’s strange that the manufacturers don’t mention it as a feature. Since doing the review I’ve done quite a lot more nights and it has certainly survived some real horrors. Great tent that certainly punches above its weight 😁cheers, Nigel
When doing some research a few weeks ago I found something similar. Its there to help wind get through. It will offer less resistance in hard wind situations, but, theoretically, it will also help avoid condensation at the same time. That is why the solid fabric is higher there, and apparently, the fabric is good enough to keep up with a good rain, it shouldn't stretch, sag or let any water through, as long as it is well pitched. I am looking into the 2P tent myself. It still has the small cross pole, so I wouldn't use it for 2p, but seems to be a great 1p tent with a lot of space to put gear inside and it only weights an extra 100g or so. It also has 2 vestibules, so you could set it up with the intake facing whichever way is more convenient and still have a door facing your campsite. BTW, love this channel, the slower pace is soothing and it's hard to find these days of information overload
Thanks for the insightful research and I can certainly confirm all the observations. Let me know how you get on with the two person version. Appreciation your thoughts on the channel as well. 😁👍🏼
That is a strong endorsement indeed. Totally agree and this tent continues to surprise me how good it is, certainly survived a few storms with me as well. Thanks for the comment.
I have the 2P version of the OSMO Hornet, and Ive had it in several heavy downpour rain storms, the last storm had 50mpg wind gusts and continued all night. I had no issues and stayed dry. This is one tough tent to be so light. It has been proven by my own experience... so I'm sold on it. Great video!
This is great news I'm planning on buying the OSMO Hornet 2p. Planning on hiking the Lone Star Trail and next year in August try to get permit for the JMT
Thanks for the great video! I stumbled upon your video whilst looking for a good guide for the Hornet 1P and I wasn’t disappointed! I just ordered one of these and I am feeling confident in my purchase. I’m going to test it out on Wednesday! You’ve earned a new subscriber!
After a near 6 continous months walking and camping various national trails, my Sigma S15 is looking rather sorry for itself and I'll be looking for a new one man tent in the Autum/Winter for use in Spring/Summer 24. At this stage I have no idea what I'll go for but reviews like this are always welcome, if only to let me know if it's not for me.
Enjoying your vids Nigel esp the ODW which I've completed this week 2nd time since 87. Great trail. For me the hilleberg akto is the best tent ever made. Had mine since 98 and still going strong, never let me down. So easy to pitch and take down esp in bad conditions. A lot of thought went into designing this tent which i can't say has for many others. I wouldn't even consider buying another tent unless it's another akto. Expensive yes but quality. Sounds like a sales pitch, excpun.
Nice one! Always good to have a reliable favourite. I suspect like me, you enjoy tent reviews, always mentally comparing but physically temped no. Always enjoying hearing what other people are hiking. Cheers, Nigel
@@AmblingTrails Thanks Nigel, cant get enough reviews and trail vids. A busy year for me on the trails as I did the whw again (4th time) in late june july. Came across your channel recently and just watching your south downs video. Full of memories and nostalgia for me as i did this route in 91. Very hot and lots of pub stops. Wonderful.
Ha, my SDW was a bit miserable and wet but I had great company It was the first trail that my daughter agreed to accompany me, and we can now share great memories.
Another enjoyable review. Thank you for this. I’m new to wild camping so on the lookout for the right gear that will suit me. Keep these videos coming please 👍
Thank you for a really decent review. I have one but have hesitated to use it as i had concerns about it abilities to withstood bad weather and high winds..
Totally understand where you are coming from. I actually set off on a trail in the middle of summer not expecting any storms but the English weather certainly tested the tent and me! Also, just back from another hike and one thing I did not pick up in the review is how quite the flysheet is in the high winds. Other tents with flysheet, even with a small amount of flapping can feel quite loud when you're trying to sleep inside. On this tent there is less material and you can really dial it in tight. Hope you get to try your Hornet soon, interested to hear what you think. Cheers
Good review thanks. These OSMO range from Nemo are very highly rated. I almost bought the Hornet 2 person, but went for the Sierra designs 3000 2 as it was cheaper and I'll only use it when car camping so weight isn't an issue.
Appreciate the comment, certainly awhile since I’ve been car camping, understand the view point. Cheers Nigel
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My main criticism of the Hornet, and the reason I sold mine, is that it is too easy for water to fall inside the inner when unzipping a wet flysheet. Otherwise as a stormproof tent, it is really decent.
@@AmblingTrails I am still new at camping, been just 3 times to real camp and 2 times wild. I have Nordisk Svalbard 1 Pu back at my home country, which is great tent but was too big when packed. But I relocated to Hong Kong, and I would like to camp here on weekends as there is a lot of semi wild campsites. This tent looks like a good value for the weight ratio and it is double skin as here all places is reachable by foot. If I buy it I will also get footprint to keep away the condensation. I am always willing to help with a comment and two. DOne a video or two myself and I know how hard can it be to make YT show your channel.
Nordisk make great tents but they all do tend to be heavy and bulky but great in hash environments, possibly overkill for HK. Yep, I think this tent would be great for where you are now and you will certainly feel the difference in weight and volume (hek, you might need a smaller rucksack!). Hope you enjoy your new adventures in HK. Cheers
thanks for your great reviews. I'm trying to decide between MSR Hubba Hubba and the Nemo Hornet which you've both reviewed. Any thoughts or advice? I'm thinking the MSR would be more robust and better in harsher weather, but it comes at a cost of weight. I'd go 2P, not 1P.
Thanks for the interesting dilemma! You’ve certainly nailed it, in terms of boiling down the fundamentals between the two tents. As I say in the MSR video, if you want a tent that pushes into or near to the fourth season then this is the tent to choose. If you want to be fast and light and your unlikely to do winter or near winter camping then the Hornet is a great choice. Hope that helps, and happy to answer further questions if required. Best of luck with your investment. Cheers, Nigel
Must admit I did not know that, but not surprised. If that is the case, then those people looking for a 2 person capacity version don’t have to purchase a 3 person! Thanks for the info, I think I might be exploring the Nemo range further. Cheers
Learned from past a one man tent can be too small if your in bad weather and you need to keep your gear dry . Two man tent is always the best in my view
I think it depends on the tent. I’ve found over time with sufficient head and shoulder room then I’m fine. Can’t stand the coffin tents! However, I do have a two man tent as well which I tend to use if I think I’m going to be in the tent more. Thanks for the watch and sharing your thoughts, I do appreciate it. Cheers
@@AmblingTrails true what you said but I think of how times have changed over the last 50 years that been running around the outdoors and the places I have slept and the things that I have used to keep dry . These days we are so lucky. Take care and keep the great videos coming 👍
Hey...first thank you for your great videos on youtube. I like them a lot. I currently looking for a new lighter tent for my solo trips. For two i have the perfect hilleberg anaris which is top notch quality. Now i am looking for a one person tent with a bit of head space...final decion needs to taken between the Sea to Summit Altos TR1 and the Nemo Osmo Hornet 1P. I recognized that do you have experiences with both tents even with the 2 P version. What would be your final choice? In regards of material, quality and durabilty? Thanks and cheers from Germany - Michael
Hi Michael, great to hear from and thanks for the interesting challenge :). Both are great tents and interestingly the criteria you set of material, quality and durability is very difficult to separate the tents. I think what separates the tents are the other aspects. The Altos TR1 tends to be more expensive than the Hornet and this reflects the extras that you get with the tent, but this makes it slightly heavier. Although I have the 2 person version of the Altos I think the design will still shine through in this one and therefore, I think the headroom/shoulderroom will be greater in this tent. If you do choose the Altos, would review the plus version, if you want to extend the seasons. Hope this helps, and happy to answer further questions if required. Cheers Nigel
Hey Nigel, thanks for your feedback. I also recap the differences in the "comfort" as plus for the Alto. But does this goes against bad weather capabilities? The Alto has "only" a classic silnylon fabric and I guess it will tend to sack in wet conditions...also the vertical sidewalls are seems more wind prone? Is here the osmo fabric in a realworls advantage? Or can both challenge the same bad weathers? Currently in Germany the price for a 1 P altos or hornet are the same 😏 So it makes it not easier 😊
Hey Michael, if I was choosing between the two tents based on storm survival then yes I would go for the Hornet. More comfort it's the Alto. As it happens, I've survived a storm in each tent but as you note the high walls of the Alto did catch the wind more which in turn tended to pull the roof down a bit, also with more fly a lot more noise. I've managed to put the Hornet up in a storm and there were three other tents being erected at the same time, due to the smaller flysheet my tent was erected in about half the time as the other tents. Also, the smaller fly is a lot easier to pack away, especially compared to other fly's when wet. Hope that helps you more in that final choice. Best of luck with your research, it's never easy but you sound like you know where you are going.
@@AmblingTrails I got this message literally after I bought the Dragonfly (literally less than 20 minutes ago). Ultimately it was the vestibule space I wanted.
@@AmblingTrails I was considering a Hornet 2p or a Dragonfly 1p, but went with the Dragonfly purely for the large vestibule which I think will suit my needs more.
Totally get where you are coming from, and of course it is one of the challenges of this type of tent. However, with the recent awful rainy weather we've been having in the UK, I have had chance to test this aspect a number of times. Firstly, if you erect the tent as normal, it is actually faster than other tents in its class as the fly is a lot easier to handle and especially so in high winds. Whilst it is not actually designed a s a flysheet first tent, it is actually possible with a bit of practise (you've got me wondering, might do as a separate video). Thanks for the comment. Cheers Nigel
Excellent review! I purchased the previous version of this tent in part due to reports of how well it handles wind for such an ultralight tent. I remember reading about a tent design that was incredibly wind resistant. To my, admittedly foggy, memory it funneled wind in between the tent body and the fly , or some similar design mechanism, which resulted in its incredible wind resistance. I wonder if the cut out on the fly is accomplishing something similar , not just saving weight.
Thanks for the interesting comment. Yep, as I use the tent more, I think I observe the phenomenon you describe. It’s strange that the manufacturers don’t mention it as a feature. Since doing the review I’ve done quite a lot more nights and it has certainly survived some real horrors. Great tent that certainly punches above its weight 😁cheers, Nigel
When doing some research a few weeks ago I found something similar. Its there to help wind get through. It will offer less resistance in hard wind situations, but, theoretically, it will also help avoid condensation at the same time. That is why the solid fabric is higher there, and apparently, the fabric is good enough to keep up with a good rain, it shouldn't stretch, sag or let any water through, as long as it is well pitched.
I am looking into the 2P tent myself. It still has the small cross pole, so I wouldn't use it for 2p, but seems to be a great 1p tent with a lot of space to put gear inside and it only weights an extra 100g or so. It also has 2 vestibules, so you could set it up with the intake facing whichever way is more convenient and still have a door facing your campsite.
BTW, love this channel, the slower pace is soothing and it's hard to find these days of information overload
Thanks for the insightful research and I can certainly confirm all the observations. Let me know how you get on with the two person version. Appreciation your thoughts on the channel as well. 😁👍🏼
I love this tent it kept me dry through six hour heavy rain...I am in the military and couldn't believe how it performs
That is a strong endorsement indeed. Totally agree and this tent continues to surprise me how good it is, certainly survived a few storms with me as well. Thanks for the comment.
I have the 2P version of the OSMO Hornet, and Ive had it in several heavy downpour rain storms, the last storm had 50mpg wind gusts and continued all night. I had no issues and stayed dry. This is one tough tent to be so light. It has been proven by my own experience... so I'm sold on it. Great video!
With you on that and glad to hear the 2P is just as good. Thanks for the watch and really appreciate the comment.
Do you know if the Hornet 2P will fit a 25" rectangular REG WIDE and a 20" REG mummy pad side-by-side without stressing/pushing out the inner?
This is great news I'm planning on buying the OSMO Hornet 2p. Planning on hiking the Lone Star Trail and next year in August try to get permit for the JMT
Loved the video and thanks for addressing my flysheet cutaway worries!
No worries! happy to help!
Thanks for the great video! I stumbled upon your video whilst looking for a good guide for the Hornet 1P and I wasn’t disappointed! I just ordered one of these and I am feeling confident in my purchase. I’m going to test it out on Wednesday! You’ve earned a new subscriber!
Thanks for stumbling Liam! 😁 Glad the video was of help and I really do appreciate the note. Cheers
After a near 6 continous months walking and camping various national trails, my Sigma S15 is looking rather sorry for itself and I'll be looking for a new one man tent in the Autum/Winter for use in Spring/Summer 24.
At this stage I have no idea what I'll go for but reviews like this are always welcome, if only to let me know if it's not for me.
Just to say I'm a big fan of the Sigma well. Really appreciate the comment. Cheers
Enjoying your vids Nigel esp the ODW which I've completed this week 2nd time since 87. Great trail. For me the hilleberg akto is the best tent ever made. Had mine since 98 and still going strong, never let me down. So easy to pitch and take down esp in bad conditions. A lot of thought went into designing this tent which i can't say has for many others. I wouldn't even consider buying another tent unless it's another akto. Expensive yes but quality. Sounds like a sales pitch, excpun.
Nice one! Always good to have a reliable favourite. I suspect like me, you enjoy tent reviews, always mentally comparing but physically temped no. Always enjoying hearing what other people are hiking. Cheers, Nigel
@@AmblingTrails Thanks Nigel, cant get enough reviews and trail vids. A busy year for me on the trails as I did the whw again (4th time) in late june july. Came across your channel recently and just watching your south downs video. Full of memories and nostalgia for me as i did this route in 91. Very hot and lots of pub stops. Wonderful.
Ha, my SDW was a bit miserable and wet but I had great company It was the first trail that my daughter agreed to accompany me, and we can now share great memories.
Another enjoyable review. Thank you for this. I’m new to wild camping so on the lookout for the right gear that will suit me. Keep these videos coming please 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for a really decent review. I have one but have hesitated to use it as i had concerns about it abilities to withstood bad weather and high winds..
Totally understand where you are coming from. I actually set off on a trail in the middle of summer not expecting any storms but the English weather certainly tested the tent and me! Also, just back from another hike and one thing I did not pick up in the review is how quite the flysheet is in the high winds. Other tents with flysheet, even with a small amount of flapping can feel quite loud when you're trying to sleep inside. On this tent there is less material and you can really dial it in tight. Hope you get to try your Hornet soon, interested to hear what you think. Cheers
Good review thanks. These OSMO range from Nemo are very highly rated. I almost bought the Hornet 2 person, but went for the Sierra designs 3000 2 as it was cheaper and I'll only use it when car camping so weight isn't an issue.
Appreciate the comment, certainly awhile since I’ve been car camping, understand the view point. Cheers Nigel
My main criticism of the Hornet, and the reason I sold mine, is that it is too easy for water to fall inside the inner when unzipping a wet flysheet.
Otherwise as a stormproof tent, it is really decent.
Thanks for your thoughts, appreciate the watch and comment 😁👍🏼⛺️
Thanks for this video, especially appreciate all the detail. I guess given the packed pole length it would be good for bike packing
Great point! Yes, I think it is suitable for bike packing. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for this very usefull video ! Realy appreciated it !
Glad it was helpful!
Nice review. Looks like nice tent.
Hope you found the review helpful, certainly a great tent, the one I constantly use at the moment. Thanks for the comment.
@@AmblingTrails I am still new at camping, been just 3 times to real camp and 2 times wild. I have Nordisk Svalbard 1 Pu back at my home country, which is great tent but was too big when packed. But I relocated to Hong Kong, and I would like to camp here on weekends as there is a lot of semi wild campsites. This tent looks like a good value for the weight ratio and it is double skin as here all places is reachable by foot. If I buy it I will also get footprint to keep away the condensation. I am always willing to help with a comment and two. DOne a video or two myself and I know how hard can it be to make YT show your channel.
Nordisk make great tents but they all do tend to be heavy and bulky but great in hash environments, possibly overkill for HK. Yep, I think this tent would be great for where you are now and you will certainly feel the difference in weight and volume (hek, you might need a smaller rucksack!). Hope you enjoy your new adventures in HK. Cheers
thanks for your great reviews. I'm trying to decide between MSR Hubba Hubba and the Nemo Hornet which you've both reviewed.
Any thoughts or advice? I'm thinking the MSR would be more robust and better in harsher weather, but it comes at a cost of weight.
I'd go 2P, not 1P.
Thanks for the interesting dilemma! You’ve certainly nailed it, in terms of boiling down the fundamentals between the two tents. As I say in the MSR video, if you want a tent that pushes into or near to the fourth season then this is the tent to choose. If you want to be fast and light and your unlikely to do winter or near winter camping then the Hornet is a great choice. Hope that helps, and happy to answer further questions if required. Best of luck with your investment. Cheers, Nigel
Do you know if the Hornet 2P will fit a 25" rectangular REG WIDE and a 20" REG mummy pad side-by-side without stressing/pushing out the inner?
Must admit I did not know that, but not surprised. If that is the case, then those people looking for a 2 person capacity version don’t have to purchase a 3 person! Thanks for the info, I think I might be exploring the Nemo range further. Cheers
@@AmblingTrails It was a question not a statement. The Dagger 2P is a "true" 2P tent.
Apologies, I only have the 1P version and it would wrong of me speculate on the capacity of the 2P version.
Learned from past a one man tent can be too small if your in bad weather and you need to keep your gear dry . Two man tent is always the best in my view
I think it depends on the tent. I’ve found over time with sufficient head and shoulder room then I’m fine. Can’t stand the coffin tents! However, I do have a two man tent as well which I tend to use if I think I’m going to be in the tent more. Thanks for the watch and sharing your thoughts, I do appreciate it. Cheers
@@AmblingTrails true what you said but I think of how times have changed over the last 50 years that been running around the outdoors and the places I have slept and the things that I have used to keep dry . These days we are so lucky. Take care and keep the great videos coming 👍
I can certainly remember my first 'lightweight' tent from 50 years ago! You're totally right, we are so lucky now. Thanks for your support.
Hey...first thank you for your great videos on youtube. I like them a lot. I currently looking for a new lighter tent for my solo trips. For two i have the perfect hilleberg anaris which is top notch quality. Now i am looking for a one person tent with a bit of head space...final decion needs to taken between the Sea to Summit Altos TR1 and the Nemo Osmo Hornet 1P. I recognized that do you have experiences with both tents even with the 2 P version. What would be your final choice? In regards of material, quality and durabilty? Thanks and cheers from Germany - Michael
Hi Michael, great to hear from and thanks for the interesting challenge :). Both are great tents and interestingly the criteria you set of material, quality and durability is very difficult to separate the tents. I think what separates the tents are the other aspects. The Altos TR1 tends to be more expensive than the Hornet and this reflects the extras that you get with the tent, but this makes it slightly heavier. Although I have the 2 person version of the Altos I think the design will still shine through in this one and therefore, I think the headroom/shoulderroom will be greater in this tent. If you do choose the Altos, would review the plus version, if you want to extend the seasons. Hope this helps, and happy to answer further questions if required. Cheers Nigel
Hey Nigel, thanks for your feedback. I also recap the differences in the "comfort" as plus for the Alto. But does this goes against bad weather capabilities? The Alto has "only" a classic silnylon fabric and I guess it will tend to sack in wet conditions...also the vertical sidewalls are seems more wind prone? Is here the osmo fabric in a realworls advantage? Or can both challenge the same bad weathers? Currently in Germany the price for a 1 P altos or hornet are the same 😏 So it makes it not easier 😊
Hey Michael, if I was choosing between the two tents based on storm survival then yes I would go for the Hornet. More comfort it's the Alto. As it happens, I've survived a storm in each tent but as you note the high walls of the Alto did catch the wind more which in turn tended to pull the roof down a bit, also with more fly a lot more noise. I've managed to put the Hornet up in a storm and there were three other tents being erected at the same time, due to the smaller flysheet my tent was erected in about half the time as the other tents. Also, the smaller fly is a lot easier to pack away, especially compared to other fly's when wet. Hope that helps you more in that final choice. Best of luck with your research, it's never easy but you sound like you know where you are going.
After watching this, now I don't know if I want the Hornet or the Dragonfly
I have to admit, it would be a close call. Strangely, I’m considering get the Dragonfly for a friend, so either way, I think your fairly safe. Cheers
@@AmblingTrails I got this message literally after I bought the Dragonfly (literally less than 20 minutes ago). Ultimately it was the vestibule space I wanted.
@@AmblingTrails I was considering a Hornet 2p or a Dragonfly 1p, but went with the Dragonfly purely for the large vestibule which I think will suit my needs more.
@Obi-Wan_Pierogi Good to know, thanks for sharing.
Hmm, what happens if it is raining heavily when you need to erect the tent. Impressive tent apart from that issue.
Totally get where you are coming from, and of course it is one of the challenges of this type of tent. However, with the recent awful rainy weather we've been having in the UK, I have had chance to test this aspect a number of times. Firstly, if you erect the tent as normal, it is actually faster than other tents in its class as the fly is a lot easier to handle and especially so in high winds. Whilst it is not actually designed a s a flysheet first tent, it is actually possible with a bit of practise (you've got me wondering, might do as a separate video). Thanks for the comment. Cheers Nigel