I remember my nerves getting bad when Tony Allen guarded kobe. Quick laterally, stayed on kobes shooting hand, played the passing lanes, strong and physical.
If Tony Allen only developed a jump shot, he could be on the court longer and be known as an even greater defensive player than he already is. bc of his inability to shoot or be a play maker, he maxed out at about 27 MPG. In terms of perimeter defense, Tony was one of the best I've seen along the likes of Gary Payton and Scottie.
@@shermanngjazz Kawhi was not as maniacal on defense as Tony was, I know kawhi won 2 dpyo but in my opinion Tony was extremely better on defense then kawhi, look at what Tony did to lebron in those cavs years he clamped lebron into oblivion when they put him on him specially game 6 of the 2008 ecsf also durant throughout his career. Kawhi let kd drop a 50 bomb when kd was with the warriors. The best defenders in nba history to me are Bill rusell, Dennis Rodman, Ben Wallace, Jordan, the glove, cooper, Tony Allen, the ticket, Ron Artest in his prime (not when he joined kobe) and maybe kobe.
Lol funny thing is he did have a jump shot teams only wanted him to defend because that’s his strongest suit to their belief…coming from someone who knew his high school personal coach
Tony Allen was one of the best on ball defenders I’ve ever seen, he was relentless with incredible hands it was a pleasure to watch him play defence just like it was watching the mamba operate on offence, masters.
Tibs was the the mastermind behind this celtics defense. Did it with Chicago and is now working on it with the knicks . Tony allen may have been there best defender but that celtics team had some great lockdown defenders as well . Defensively they were well put together.
Absolutely true. Thibs made Ray Allen look like a good defender in Boston. Ray wasn't atrocious, but he wasn't known as a great defender either. KG is a perhaps a Top 5 low post defender ever, and guys like Tony Allen, Rondo, James Posey, and P.J. Brown were also great defenders in their own right.
Dray is a great individual defender as well though. Not on quick and shifty guys, but he frequently holds his own on the block against much bigger guys and can typically keep up with moderately fast perimeter players (because there are few “slow” perimeter players)
That's bc they're popular. Kobe got a ton of love as a defender when many say he wasn't as deserving of. KG and Dray are also good when it comes to low-post defense which is individual defense. Guys like KG tend to be the last line of defense and arguably do more defensively bc they can communicate with the perimeter defender on where the pick is coming from, which side he has help in, and has to close in/ collapse on the offensive player if he gets through his defender.
This may go unnoticed but tony allen was also kds toughest matchup. During the grizzles-thunder matchups tony would always steal the ball from kd. Tony was a special case because he was the right height and reach to stand perfect with kd's dribble. I wonder if kd ever spoke on how well tony guarded him.
Tony Allen vs the Warriors with the Grizzlies is some of the most jaw dropping defense I've ever witnessed. One time I swear he flew like a wide receiver for some steals on Klay Thompson
@@OUrNit03 Yeah they got hosed by the refs too. They always had an issue with the Grizzlies, injuries or something that stopped them from actually stopping the Warriors those runs. They were like the Warriors kryptonite. They couldn't shoot around TA.
@@OUrNit03 also warriors changed their game plan on Allen where he doesn’t have to guard Steph and klay for the rest of the series after Grizz up 2-1, by using his lack of shooting.
i’m curious as to whether the stats and tape together show shane battier to be better or worse guarding kobe compared to tony allen. Shane battier was obviously not as quick, strong and aggressive as tony allen (so he couldn’t gamble for steals or blocks as much). But he did his homework, followed the gameplan to a tee, was unafraid of pushing kobe towards help (even though that might not make him look as cool as other defenders), and disciplined enough to play the mind games perfectly by never trash talking kobe and constantly downplaying his defensive impact in interviews. He also was completely ok with kobe scoring on him; battier knew all he could do was push kobe to his weaker spots, and if kobe still scored 40, but just did it at a slightly lower efficiency, so be it.
"- he lacked the quick step to blew by-" If he had the athleticism and strength of MJ, he would've been more efficient and more brutal than he already was.
Allen was an agent of chaos, and one of the most singularly driven players I've ever had the pleasure to watch night in and out in Boston. The Celtics' defensive focus gave him room to shine, but I think it also limited his development on the offensive side of the court - he was a ruthless defender, and gave that his all, knowing there were stud scorers all around him. But it also meant he never transitioned to help out much on O. He was so marvelous, and such an important player, it's hard to say it's a shame how things played out, but I cant imagine what a terror he would have been with a steady jumper.
MJ would be too quick and too strong. Grant Hill and Artest chose old MJ over physical prime Kobe and LBJ as hardest to guard among the 3. Also, Allen wouldn't have a chance slapping the ball off those mitts and his fadeaways looked like almost a foot higher than Kobe's. Crazy doing that elevation 15x a game..
@@lamefart If kd and kobe said he the best defender they faced I’m sure he could guard just about anyone. Obviously he is a smart defender and would game plan differently for whoever he is matching up with
definitely don’t agree, but he is a historically great one. and any historically great defender has the right to say that they believe they are the greatest, regardless of if it’s incredibly inaccurate or not
You gotta understand that Tony Allen played in an Era of high physicality, average scores used to be like 75-80 lol, Draymond is incredible considering what he can do in today's offense friendly game.
draymond is easily a top 10 defensive player ever. if ur trying to imply that tony allen is a better defensive player then ur simply hating at this point.
God doesn’t want anybody in hell because He loves us, but you must understand why we deserve hell and why those who refuse to live under His authority will go there. He gave us the law (Ten Commandments) not to make us righteous, but rather to show us our sin (Romans 3:20). We’re not sinners because we sin, but rather we sin because we’re sinners. Sin is the nature of our flesh that we are born with due to the sin of Adam in the garden. For someone to be justified before God they have to be sinless. We’ve all sinned (Romans 3:23), and the the law demands death for those who sin (Romans 6:23). God is righteous, so He must punish our sin, which is what He did through His Son Jesus Christ on the cross. Jesus is Holy and sinless, yet He received our sin when He died on the cross, so that we can be righteous before God (2 Corinthians 5:21). When He died on the cross, He said “It is finished” (John 19:30), which means He paid the full price for all of your sins (past, present, and future) to be forgiven. He was buried and rose again from the dead. God will forgive anybody who puts their full trust in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. We aren’t saved based on our good deeds, but only by the grace of God (Ephesians 2:8-9). His precious blood that He shed is the only reason why we can be forgiven of our sins (Hebrews 9:22). If you confess that Jesus is Lord and believe that God raised Him from the dead, then you’ll be saved (Romans 10:9). You are born-again with the Spirit of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17), and are not only legally justified before God, but also are accredited His righteous (Romans 4:24). Believers live for Christ now, so get to know Him through His Word. I recommend reading the book of Romans and the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), and watching Pastor Joseph Prince’s online videos!
I remember my nerves getting bad when Tony Allen guarded kobe. Quick laterally, stayed on kobes shooting hand, played the passing lanes, strong and physical.
😂😂😂😂😂
Yupp
Same thing I felt, but with Curry during those Warriors vs. Grizzlies playoff series.
No one cares bro that’s literally what the videos about
Used love how he took Klay Thompson out of the game, only player that I can think of that's done that
I know it’s not popular, but I love defense in basketball. It makes the game beautiful.
💯
It also wins championships
It gave so much more meaning to scoring, unlike now everyone is playing real life 2k
If Tony Allen only developed a jump shot, he could be on the court longer and be known as an even greater defensive player than he already is. bc of his inability to shoot or be a play maker, he maxed out at about 27 MPG. In terms of perimeter defense, Tony was one of the best I've seen along the likes of Gary Payton and Scottie.
What about Kawhi?
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Kawhi was not as maniacal on defense as Tony was, I know kawhi won 2 dpyo but in my opinion Tony was extremely better on defense then kawhi, look at what Tony did to lebron in those cavs years he clamped lebron into oblivion when they put him on him specially game 6 of the 2008 ecsf also durant throughout his career. Kawhi let kd drop a 50 bomb when kd was with the warriors. The best defenders in nba history to me are Bill rusell, Dennis Rodman, Ben Wallace, Jordan, the glove, cooper, Tony Allen, the ticket, Ron Artest in his prime (not when he joined kobe) and maybe kobe.
@@shermanngjazz Kwahi is more naturally gifted on defense, but Tony is more methodical
He locked down KD too
Lol funny thing is he did have a jump shot teams only wanted him to defend because that’s his strongest suit to their belief…coming from someone who knew his high school personal coach
Tony Allen was one of the best on ball defenders I’ve ever seen, he was relentless with incredible hands it was a pleasure to watch him play defence just like it was watching the mamba operate on offence, masters.
Who tf could dislike this video? If you like basketball this is good stuff
Gary Payton fanboy
Tibs was the the mastermind behind this celtics defense. Did it with Chicago and is now working on it with the knicks . Tony allen may have been there best defender but that celtics team had some great lockdown defenders as well . Defensively they were well put together.
And Garnett is an all time great anchor
Absolutely true. Thibs made Ray Allen look like a good defender in Boston. Ray wasn't atrocious, but he wasn't known as a great defender either. KG is a perhaps a Top 5 low post defender ever, and guys like Tony Allen, Rondo, James Posey, and P.J. Brown were also great defenders in their own right.
Too bad he couldn’t make it work in Minnesota
@@kawaiiafangirl Ray was a solid to good defender I don’t think thibs did that
Posey is/was very underrated
My observation: Players think highly of individual defenders like Tony Allen and Jrue Holiday. Media prefers team defenders like KG and Dray.
Dray is a great individual defender as well though. Not on quick and shifty guys, but he frequently holds his own on the block against much bigger guys and can typically keep up with moderately fast perimeter players (because there are few “slow” perimeter players)
Kg is one of the greatest defenders of all time as well as draymond
Dray is an amazing help defender
You were on the right track...Media prefers big men defenders
That's bc they're popular. Kobe got a ton of love as a defender when many say he wasn't as deserving of. KG and Dray are also good when it comes to low-post defense which is individual defense. Guys like KG tend to be the last line of defense and arguably do more defensively bc they can communicate with the perimeter defender on where the pick is coming from, which side he has help in, and has to close in/ collapse on the offensive player if he gets through his defender.
That's some goated content
This may go unnoticed but tony allen was also kds toughest matchup. During the grizzles-thunder matchups tony would always steal the ball from kd. Tony was a special case because he was the right height and reach to stand perfect with kd's dribble. I wonder if kd ever spoke on how well tony guarded him.
Yea if I recall correctly, KD also said tony allen was the toughest defender he’s faced
Had it not been for Reggie Jackson's heroics the Grizzlies would have won that series. Allen was in KD's ass!!
Kd also said tony Allen was his toughest defender.
Thought he said Holiday
@@anthonynorman7545 Maybe this was this year Jrue made him forget his TA nightmares
@@silewis9396 he said it on JJ's podcast during COVID
@@anthonynorman7545 I'll run that back. Jrue one of my fave players in the league, but either way Allen aint there to give him any trouble no more
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that's true
Tony Allen vs the Warriors with the Grizzlies is some of the most jaw dropping defense I've ever witnessed. One time I swear he flew like a wide receiver for some steals on Klay Thompson
He literally LOCKED down the perimeter between Steph and Klay. I believe Allen got injured in that series which was a shame.
@@OUrNit03 Yeah they got hosed by the refs too. They always had an issue with the Grizzlies, injuries or something that stopped them from actually stopping the Warriors those runs. They were like the Warriors kryptonite. They couldn't shoot around TA.
@@OUrNit03 also warriors changed their game plan on Allen where he doesn’t have to guard Steph and klay for the rest of the series after Grizz up 2-1, by using his lack of shooting.
My second favorite celtic of all time behind Paul Pierce... just loved his passion for the game
Great content. That Kobe pumpfake is beautiful. Another video on Kobe’s offense toolbags someday?
Kobe shot 40% in both Boston series.
Allen was also robbed of 1st team all nba defense for 3 straight years. 07-09
really good content and video, i enjoyed it tons. respect to tony allen for being such a good defender
I’ve said this for years. Tony Allen is such an underrated defender. The real ones remember you Tony!
He is not underrated defender lol. Tony Allen is widely and highly recognized to be one of the greatest defenders all time.
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Fucking love your videos bro.
Great to wind down after a crazy day at work. Amazing basketball analysis with nice background music
Keep it up
i’m curious as to whether the stats and tape together show shane battier to be better or worse guarding kobe compared to tony allen.
Shane battier was obviously not as quick, strong and aggressive as tony allen (so he couldn’t gamble for steals or blocks as much). But he did his homework, followed the gameplan to a tee, was unafraid of pushing kobe towards help (even though that might not make him look as cool as other defenders), and disciplined enough to play the mind games perfectly by never trash talking kobe and constantly downplaying his defensive impact in interviews.
He also was completely ok with kobe scoring on him; battier knew all he could do was push kobe to his weaker spots, and if kobe still scored 40, but just did it at a slightly lower efficiency, so be it.
Number 24 Vs. Number 42 Matchup
4:08 Was that Tony Allen, or was it Future talking about Kobe? 😭😭😂😂
RIP Kobe Bryant! 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Great video and analysis
I love Kobe and this video because I think kobe would love it because it’s honest and real 👍
"- he lacked the quick step to blew by-" If he had the athleticism and strength of MJ, he would've been more efficient and more brutal than he already was.
In 2003 he was extremely athletic and quick but he never got back to that because he couldn’t stay healthy. He probably pushed himself too hard
Lol even if he had those gifts if he's still a bad shot chucker his efficiency would be the same
@@NotAnAstronaut2k 5 championships? You literally cannot be a bad player and win multiple championships. You are retarded
@@NotAnAstronaut2kif he kept his athleticism he wouldn’t be pulling up that much
@@darthhorror0HD Cuz he wasn't as athletically gifted, ifs and buts dont count lol
great work bruh
Best man to man defensive shooting guard I ever seen. Always felt he could guard Kobe Bryant.
Crane High School legend! Tony Allen
Frfr big BD.. I see you from the crib..💯💯💯
Fantastic!
Thanks this was so great to learn genuinely very insightful
Tony Allen was a savage 🔥🔥🔥
First Team, All Defense! The Grindfather!
Beautiful video mate 👌 👍
Great points 👏🏾
Allen was an agent of chaos, and one of the most singularly driven players I've ever had the pleasure to watch night in and out in Boston. The Celtics' defensive focus gave him room to shine, but I think it also limited his development on the offensive side of the court - he was a ruthless defender, and gave that his all, knowing there were stud scorers all around him. But it also meant he never transitioned to help out much on O. He was so marvelous, and such an important player, it's hard to say it's a shame how things played out, but I cant imagine what a terror he would have been with a steady jumper.
Anyone notice how is number is 42 👀 guarding number 24
Man i miss Kobe
Tony Allen has one of the meanest dunks ever over Jamison against Cleveland.
Maaaaannn Listen 💯
Tony Allen is one of the best NBA defenders of all time
wow. Awesome video
I loved this vid sm
If he faced 03 kobe, 01, iverson 09 dwade, 03 tmac and any version jordan, that strategy of him forcing to the left wont work.
MJ would be too quick and too strong. Grant Hill and Artest chose old MJ over physical prime Kobe and LBJ as hardest to guard among the 3. Also, Allen wouldn't have a chance slapping the ball off those mitts and his fadeaways looked like almost a foot higher than Kobe's. Crazy doing that elevation 15x a game..
@@lamefart If kd and kobe said he the best defender they faced I’m sure he could guard just about anyone. Obviously he is a smart defender and would game plan differently for whoever he is matching up with
Good break down
Love it!
Gotta love it
Thybulle and Beverley plz :) thanks for your work man
Tony Allen a beast. But sucks bc I always hated the Celtics.
Every offensive player has that one guy that makes it hard to score. With Kobe, it was Tony Allen. Jordan, it was Joe Dumars.
Can we get a Zach Randolph vid
Nice one
Reminds me of a lite version of "The Jordan Rules"
Do one on Muggsy Bogues
Tony Allen boss defense
Imagine the Cavs picking Tony Allen with their 10th pick in 2004 instead of Luke freaking Jackson.
He said hes toughest matchup was tmac cause he can all the things kobe can do but hes 6'9. Toughest defender is tony allen not toughest matchup.
Can you do a vid of Ron Artest's defense?
3:22 great video but this is not that open of a 3
It's very open for a shooter like Kobe.
@@Bleop It’s a good contest from 3
Would have been better if he said he had a decent look
DAMIAN LILLARD
Yes, please do a video on how legendary and underrated Dame's Game 5 against Denver was.
Kobe’s Top 5 most respected players
What about Ruben Patterson, the Kobe Stopper lol
You showed Boston Celtics TA but not Memphis Grizzlies TA? He became a better player in Memphis and you didnt show not one clip!? 👎🏾
Yea I thought that was interesting as well. Maybe because by then Kobe was well past his prime when Allen was in Memphis.
Imo Tony Allen was to KoBe what Payton was to Jordan🔒
If Kobe was a better facilitator, they woulda beat Boston the first time
Shouldn't the Title say "Believed" instead of Believes?
Legends never die, brother
Lol watching this video it looks like kobe plays hero ball
Why mention Ray Allen
24 v 42
One time he said tmac
Cuz that wasn't No.8 !!!! No body defeats 03 Kobe !!!! Nobody !!! He'd destroy every one of 'em !!!!!
What happened just one year later against the Pistons? Oh right, Prince clamped his ass down.
I think shane battier and raja bell also a good defender against kobe. 🤷♂️
While lebron takes on Kawai
To think that draymond green calls himself the GOAT defensive player 😂😂😂
definitely don’t agree, but he is a historically great one. and any historically great defender has the right to say that they believe they are the greatest, regardless of if it’s incredibly inaccurate or not
@@danadelarosa7991 exactly, lol
prime dray is definitely > prime tony allen defensively, dray's help defense, call outs and rotations are just too valuable
You gotta understand that Tony Allen played in an Era of high physicality, average scores used to be like 75-80 lol, Draymond is incredible considering what he can do in today's offense friendly game.
draymond is easily a top 10 defensive player ever. if ur trying to imply that tony allen is a better defensive player then ur simply hating at this point.
Bruce Bowen wasn't bad either. Pulled Kobes chair out on at least a few occasions
Kobe had 0 problems with bowen
@@wizzjo1nt5 that's a blatantly incorrect statement
@@maxthereof Nah none. I just re watched a couple playoff series too. He got whatever he wanted whenever. No problems.
Who is biggest curry stopper?
Clutch situation at NBA Finals
1st
I beat u
I was actually first
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4:47 travel
*believed, Kobe passed away
@re fresh You type like someone who failed high school.
Lebron runs through Tony Allen types
You forget to mention lebron like 7ft tall🤣🤣
Lol he's a 6 time defensive nba award winner and dude still decided to be a thief and insurance cheat.
God doesn’t want anybody in hell because He loves us, but you must understand why we deserve hell and why those who refuse to live under His authority will go there. He gave us the law (Ten Commandments) not to make us righteous, but rather to show us our sin (Romans 3:20). We’re not sinners because we sin, but rather we sin because we’re sinners. Sin is the nature of our flesh that we are born with due to the sin of Adam in the garden. For someone to be justified before God they have to be sinless. We’ve all sinned (Romans 3:23), and the the law demands death for those who sin (Romans 6:23). God is righteous, so He must punish our sin, which is what He did through His Son Jesus Christ on the cross. Jesus is Holy and sinless, yet He received our sin when He died on the cross, so that we can be righteous before God (2 Corinthians 5:21). When He died on the cross, He said “It is finished” (John 19:30), which means He paid the full price for all of your sins (past, present, and future) to be forgiven. He was buried and rose again from the dead. God will forgive anybody who puts their full trust in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. We aren’t saved based on our good deeds, but only by the grace of God (Ephesians 2:8-9). His precious blood that He shed is the only reason why we can be forgiven of our sins (Hebrews 9:22). If you confess that Jesus is Lord and believe that God raised Him from the dead, then you’ll be saved (Romans 10:9). You are born-again with the Spirit of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17), and are not only legally justified before God, but also are accredited His righteous (Romans 4:24). Believers live for Christ now, so get to know Him through His Word. I recommend reading the book of Romans and the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), and watching Pastor Joseph Prince’s online videos!
I’m first
I was first but deleted my comment cuz it had a typo
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@@reidb6327 he is right tho
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