Commanding on a Budget 05 -- Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

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  • Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
  • Welcome to Commanding on a Budget! Today we take a look at a Skithiryx the Blight Dragon deck that will cost you around $50 to build! Warning though, this is definitely a deck that is out to win the game using infect, so if that isn't your style, then this deck may not be for you. This thing is definitely designed to compete at any level and in any playgroup.
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  • @aldennis123
    @aldennis123 11 років тому +1

    We've gotta see more gameplays with the decks!! Especially this one

  • @lutherboy95
    @lutherboy95 11 років тому

    you just got yourselves a new subscriber! I'm just now getting into commander and I love this series!

  • @XNiness
    @XNiness 11 років тому

    One good inclusion you failed to mention for the deck that's not budget is Cavern of Souls. Since sticking Skithiryx is so vital, sneaking him under counterspells can be really important. I like Imp's Mischief for that reason as well (change the counterspell target to the Imp's Mischief and it'll fizzle + it has other versatility, like moving a Path or Swords to something else).

  • @KromeDrone
    @KromeDrone 9 років тому +7

    Inkmoth should be on the non-budget portion. That thing has been $20 almost since the day it was printed.

  • @clixwalker
    @clixwalker 11 років тому

    Thank you for making a budgeted deck on Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon. I was trying to build a budgeted build myself.

  • @Justin-lf5gd
    @Justin-lf5gd 8 років тому +1

    I recently used a mono-black skittles deck and EVERYONE wanted to cry about it. "I hate infect", "I think it should be 25 counters 10 is too easy", "It's supposed to be at least 1/2 your starting life total not just 10" and so on and so on. I had to basically tell them to stop whining and new better players. I personally love alt win cons and infinate combos. The thing with combos is you know they need the pieces for it so disrupt it and stop being little babies geez. My group always hates on me even though I don't always win but I'm up for the challenge of being the target that's fun for me.

  • @Chicken_Monk
    @Chicken_Monk 10 років тому +1

    Did anyone else think at the end... OMG JOHN STEWART APERRANCE THE DAILY SHOW ROCKS!!!!!!!!!

  • @lohezfelix2035
    @lohezfelix2035 11 років тому

    Ty for the clear guide, you gave me few ideas! i'm going to take a look to the other videos.

  • @MegaWizard79
    @MegaWizard79 11 років тому +2

    Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon is my EDH General, and an amazing Dragon card. Even without the infect, it has haste and regeneration. Who could ask for more?

  • @vaschmir
    @vaschmir 11 років тому

    i'd recommend putting High Market to counter Terminus or Oblation or anything that puts a creature on the bottom of a library

  • @KonekoEmzee
    @KonekoEmzee 11 років тому +1

    Infect is powerful and somewhat saddening to lose to, but I'd still say it's less threatening than those "Here's my infinite combo I win now kk?" decks, of which there are many of. When they go off, they essentially have just ended the game, sometimes completely out of the blue and unexpected by anyone. Infect for the most part has to at least kill people player by player so it's at least a bit fairer in that aspect.

  • @DavideBarbieri1
    @DavideBarbieri1 11 років тому

    You should make some video about which are the best choice for every "category" like remouvals/counters ecc :)
    Also I'd love to see one of your video about Jenara's EDH control-like ;) Budget ofc :)

  • @AtomicG
    @AtomicG 11 років тому

    Infect has its place. Its an interesting mechanic that can snipe out a win against a pesky turtle deck, or an even peskier life gain deck. My Jasmine Boreal build is both of those, and the Melira is in their specifically because poison is a legit threat.
    I think Infect gets more hate when it comes out of left field (Triumph of the Horde) than when they know its coming.

  • @drewwhoitis
    @drewwhoitis 11 років тому +2

    I am in love with your commentary style and vocal. you are a cool girl.

  • @ChillbroIgotthis
    @ChillbroIgotthis 11 років тому

    Never noticed that Ambition's Cost and Ancient Craving have the same flavor text. It irks me a bit.
    But to comment on the video, good job. When my local store first had an EDH tourney I won with Skithiryx. He definitely makes the games look scarier than they probably will actually be just by being there.

  • @olivercharmba
    @olivercharmba 11 років тому +1

    my friend techs this into his B/W control deck, such a pain in the ass considering i dont have many flyers, and he likes to pump the thing. -.-

  • @Buck9292
    @Buck9292 11 років тому

    great deck brionne, would love to see more budget decks in the future(my playgroup has only budget decks available) Could you try and make a Varolz or Obzedat decklist?

  • @wtfcookies
    @wtfcookies 11 років тому +1

    Infect gets so much unnecessary flak. It's not that hard to disrupt guys, removal is something all decks need to run. It should be a respected alt win con as its no worse than getting combo'd out. I personally hate hour long games as they get stale quickly. Awesome video btw.

  • @xexilez99x
    @xexilez99x 10 років тому +3

    Whispersilk cloak is great in any infect deck

  • @jonathancummins6234
    @jonathancummins6234 5 років тому

    Great video chief

  • @goldranger222
    @goldranger222 11 років тому

    I made this deck, added a few staples....the power......its amazing!

  • @waynehansen4366
    @waynehansen4366 6 років тому

    Love this deck and going to make it thanks

  • @fredrikgranstrom8357
    @fredrikgranstrom8357 10 років тому

    Really cool deck.love me some infect dragons ;)

  • @Garchicero
    @Garchicero 11 років тому

    Can you do Isperia, the Inscrutable next? With a possible flyer tribal theme? Thanks! =)

  • @Garchicero
    @Garchicero 11 років тому

    Well, regarding that, I auto-scaled Test of Endurance and Felidar Sovereign to 100 life and 80 life, respectively. It made everyone happy so far.

  • @silentgrave17
    @silentgrave17 9 років тому +1

    honestly I think infect in commander is fine, maybe not the greatest mechanic, but then I compare it to infinite combos of any kind and the result is the same except you only take out one person while infinite combos take out the table. You still have to deal with the other members in the playgroup, but maybe this is bias because I play in a mostly control meta where as you know it usually takes a long time to finish. Also if you play infect and your playgroup knows about it, almost 90% of the time you're deck will be targeted by your opponents regardless of what you do or say, and can turn into archenemy without you having any advantage.
    If you're having trouble with infect, the best way to beat it is to kill (bounce, exile) or counter (counters, or stifle effects) their commander over and over again until it's more or less uncastable. Usually if they play infect it's has to do with their commander.

  • @Arvensa
    @Arvensa 11 років тому

    Quote 'that's not budget' end quote. There's a segment in the video where it could have gone, too.

  • @ExtremeBuizel
    @ExtremeBuizel 11 років тому

    Woo! New video!

  • @Edgarion63
    @Edgarion63 11 років тому

    I feel that infect as the only win-con in a deck can be a bit lame. I remember an early iteration of my Doran deck when I had Doran, Indomitable Ancients, and Glistening Oil attached to the Ancients. I killed the player in 2 turns even though he had a far superior deck. I won, which is great, but I felt a little dirty.
    I fell that if you run infect, the rest of the players will either gang up on you and kill you quick, or they will just try to keep you from getting out of control.

  • @BenjiJediMaster
    @BenjiJediMaster 10 років тому +1

    other than skitti and blightsteel colossus creatures with infect are still balanced and it's very hard to go into the broken combos that edh is full of...

  • @blas27
    @blas27 11 років тому +1

    A question, if its a mono black edh deck why crypt ghast is in it if it has an ability cost that can payed with either 1 black or 1 white and the white symbol is present on the card? Isn`t this ilegal on a edh deck?

  • @NearlyNotNothing
    @NearlyNotNothing 11 років тому

    No, because its in the reminder text, wich means it doesn't count. Its only there to remind you that you can/may pay white mana.

  • @Oculeto
    @Oculeto 5 років тому +4

    This deck costs about twice as much now 😂

    • @Dogbeing
      @Dogbeing 5 років тому +1

      Yeah I was really excited about this deck until I realized that :)

  • @JimWolfie
    @JimWolfie 11 років тому +1

    all legal strategies are valid. for play SPIKE IT TO THE MAX

  • @counTerbreak00
    @counTerbreak00 11 років тому +1

    Well our playgroup seems not mind about 10 poison counters. For a fact that our playgroup loves to do game ending combos..just combos day in and day out, and it makes me feel sick at times. One of our friends in our playgroup has made a Skithiryx deck, and keeps shutting down combo players every now and then, usually with just one big swing. But he missed just one important thing though, he forgot that he built a GENERALIST deck that when Skithiryx is countered by Hinder or Spell Crumple.

  • @jackbaker7327
    @jackbaker7327 10 років тому +4

    Skithiryx, otherwise known as,... SKITTLES

  • @cursedteen8
    @cursedteen8 11 років тому

    what would you take out if i would want to put liliana of the dark realms?

  • @BuBuluBueNo969
    @BuBuluBueNo969 9 років тому

    looks cool, but no discard?

  • @TopAndGoProductions
    @TopAndGoProductions  11 років тому

    You should send us your final list, we'd love to see it.

  • @TopAndGoProductions
    @TopAndGoProductions  11 років тому

    Those cards aren't technically scaled. That is probably a house rule, but there aren't any official rules scaling those cards at all.

  • @VISORED1
    @VISORED1 11 років тому

    Infect on commander was one of my fav ideas. I tried Green/Black combinations and i ended up play a Mimeoplasm infect deck... too bad it was too hatefull :\

  • @RoyaLockz
    @RoyaLockz 11 років тому

    Do the people in your play group play goblin fireslingers and runeclaw bears? Those cards aren't cutthroat at all because they are very easy to deal with in a multiplayer format. You literally just swing at the person or kill the card.

  • @mitchellbush9200
    @mitchellbush9200 2 роки тому

    Why are you not running dark realms

  • @frizzleybear
    @frizzleybear 11 років тому

    We have the same rule. Tainted swipe was just too easy to win with.

  • @idodo32
    @idodo32 11 років тому

    just opened this bad boy in a pack, think i might build something like this :)

  • @zeroshade1020
    @zeroshade1020 11 років тому

    Skittles, the Rainbow Dragon!

  • @Gimpocalypse
    @Gimpocalypse 11 років тому +2

    As "taboo" as infect can be, I can tell you there are WAY more frustrating things your opponent can do to you in EDH.

  • @Sforschondetta
    @Sforschondetta 11 років тому

    just wanted to mention the hidden gem " Unspeakable Symbol " for infect. have fun :)

  • @Meleeace1478
    @Meleeace1478 11 років тому

    I am a fan of any deck that use Mycosynth Wellspring.

  • @brinkpwns
    @brinkpwns 11 років тому

    You should do a budget Rakdos lord of riots... please :3

  • @RoyaLockz
    @RoyaLockz 11 років тому

    So you made the cards unplayable basically in any good deck?

  • @Modest7787
    @Modest7787 2 роки тому

    Imagine the budget 9 years later

  • @frizzleybear
    @frizzleybear 11 років тому

    cool deck a nice fun budget deck. although in my play group we have a house rule for 20 poision to kill a player.
    I wonder how many of you play 20 infect in commander rather than the normal 10?

  • @Garchicero
    @Garchicero 11 років тому

    Then Felidar Sovereign and Test of Endurance, Pride Entity or Serra Ascendant should not be scaled too.

  • @silentgrave17
    @silentgrave17 11 років тому

    karador ghost chieftain next plz

  • @RCblake07
    @RCblake07 10 років тому +1

    Is this standard or modern? Im new...

    • @xtfenrirtx
      @xtfenrirtx 10 років тому +1

      It's neither, it's it's own format where you get a legendary creature as your commander for a 100 card deck including the commander, no more no less than 100. You cannot have duplicates of any card except basic lands unless said otherwise by the card you are playing (relentless rats/shadowborn apostle). You cannot have cards in your deck that aren't colors of your commander(colorless isn't a color, so you can always play it). For example, Skithiryx is only black, so you can only have black or colorless cards in your deck. EDH isn't the most expensive format, but it easily becomes really expensive for top tier decks, seeing as you need 100 cards.

  • @keithdurocher4903
    @keithdurocher4903 11 років тому +1

    I think the 20 posion counter instead of 10 rule is lame. People should know their play group and have a few cards in their deck to handle their friend's decks. if posion is giving you a problem build around it. I dont wanna sound like the spike player here but changing a win condition because its not fair is like playing games on novice difficulty and bragging. what make infect so strong is its a problem, if you make it not a problem then its not worth playing.

  • @Garchicero
    @Garchicero 11 років тому

    There's a guy in our playgroup that has become so cocky when he wins, it's turning to be unbearable. He overreacts when he plays me and wins... and afterthe match, mocks me for my loss. I play Kemba EDH and I'm looking for some infect answers to shut his arrogant playstyle once and for all. Ideas?

  • @cwwilson1475
    @cwwilson1475 11 років тому

    infect slivers is a nor in my play group :) i am the one to blame
    .

  • @realitychaser2239
    @realitychaser2239 9 років тому

    Fun to play with, annoying to go against

  • @RoyaLockz
    @RoyaLockz 11 років тому +1

    10 by official rules.

  • @paradoarify
    @paradoarify 11 років тому +3

    People hate poison but, it's not op

  • @NarTheOwl
    @NarTheOwl 10 років тому +1

    Games shouldnt take an hour or it gets too stale. Make interesting wins that arent too slow and are a challenge to beat. Its the whole point of magic. Infect can be pretty easy to beat, too. Just play an end hostilities and force opponent to sac a creature. Bye bye skittles.

    • @man.newton
      @man.newton 10 років тому

      The other answer? Mono blue, running Keiga as commander. Kill Keiga? I love me some skittles.

  • @ForgedTraps
    @ForgedTraps 11 років тому

    Yes he is

  • @RoyaLockz
    @RoyaLockz 11 років тому

    Yes he is by official rules.

  • @jacobstormann4452
    @jacobstormann4452 10 років тому +1

    Argentum Armor, just saying.

  • @SanityLapse
    @SanityLapse 10 років тому

    My EDH playgroup used to do 10 poison counters, then 15 poison counters, and now we've settled on 12 poison counters. Just enough to survive one unpumped Blightsteel hit.

  • @Garchicero
    @Garchicero 11 років тому

    Nah, my playgroup is super relaxed, we don't use cutthroat techniques. In the case it wants to go more competitive, then yes, I will consider removing them.

  • @nikovertongen8690
    @nikovertongen8690 11 років тому

    I love infect it's a quicker way to kill players and a different way to play the game.
    I made a green/black edh and formed a infect spawning of insects to win the game

  • @Garchicero
    @Garchicero 11 років тому

    Not too broke? Skittles + Hatred ;3

  • @ripred42
    @ripred42 11 років тому

    I don't have a huge problem with infect but I feel it should be 15 poison counters.

  • @Matti_Mattsen
    @Matti_Mattsen 11 років тому

    Nice vid, but doesnt fit my group. We dont play with infect normally, cause its way too strong. For us, a player lost if he has 20 infect counter rather than the normal 10, since your life total is also doubled in commander.

  • @legaia34
    @legaia34 11 років тому +1

    My version is like $600

  • @Phisheadz
    @Phisheadz 11 років тому

    animar and artifact creatures

  • @theswichoff73
    @theswichoff73 11 років тому

    In light of the new rules so should Avacyn.

  • @poebelungesocks
    @poebelungesocks 11 років тому

    we play with 15 poison counters so infect is not really a big deal in our games, deck looks fun though!

  • @marcagel
    @marcagel 11 років тому

    Almost all cards that were printed prior to Commander becoming a recognized format should be scaled in EDH. Serra Ascendant is just filthy and a prime example. Poison is another example and a reason Skittles is a viable commander. He's still brutal playing 20 poison instead of 10, but not filthy. Saying you're OK with playing non-scaled in a format that didn't exist at printing is like being OK with playing Karakas in EDH.

  • @DementedPrankster
    @DementedPrankster 11 років тому +1

    Decimator Web anyone?

  • @LPThunderStork
    @LPThunderStork 11 років тому

    Its still a bit better because you can proliferate.

  • @Dogbeing
    @Dogbeing 5 років тому

    I don't understand what you mean by "piggyback on someone else's fatties to win the game in regards to tainted strike. I just don't understand the value of tainted strike even though a lot of infect decks use it.

  • @HighFlyActionGuy
    @HighFlyActionGuy 11 років тому

    budget deck built on 50 dollars. Cavern is almost half the cost of the entire deck.

  • @CleansingInferno
    @CleansingInferno 11 років тому

    Our House rule is Infect is 20, not 10, Just makes the game a little fairer

  • @vaschmir
    @vaschmir 11 років тому

    Rak'en Rol \m/

  • @Martainia
    @Martainia 11 років тому

    To answer the question at the end:
    My playgroup has agreed to set the required poison counters to win a game of EDH to 15 instead of 10. It's a simple way to round out the win-con compared to usual 40 life, without making poison damage equatable to commander damage.

  • @paxmeier915
    @paxmeier915 11 років тому

    Infect is like having 10 life!!!!!

  • @devenvalenti4411
    @devenvalenti4411 10 років тому

    id say 15 or 20 poison counters to kill a player in EDH makes more sense than 10, thats what house rules are for. i can play skittles and people wont get * too * mad

  • @Aolen75
    @Aolen75 11 років тому

    nasty lol

  • @Baumgardner23
    @Baumgardner23 11 років тому

    Skithiryx is not allowed as a commander

  • @redeyeskev
    @redeyeskev 11 років тому

    infect is like cheating - fortunately there is Sigarda for it.

  • @SpiceCh
    @SpiceCh 11 років тому +2

    Infect. Because commander damage is not good enough?
    To be completely honest, this list looks just about as fun as playing a deck that has an infinite/instant win combo. Rogue's Passage makes you lose friends. Maybe if you didn't play so many cards that protect the Blight Dragon it wouldn't be as much of a problem, but I loathe decks that don't interact with your opponent more than anything, and especially in EDH, which is supposed to be about social interaction more than just winning on turn 5. If you only play to win, you shouldn't be playing EDH.

    • @SpiceCh
      @SpiceCh 11 років тому

      Magic is just as much, if not more, about having fun than winning. What I want from a game of Magic is player interaction and rare sequences of play that does something awesome. Big board states and intricate combos are part of what makes Magic fun - not one-sided control matches that grind out a slow win while everyone else is just waiting for the game to be over because you're the only one who gets to do anything, or combo decks that consistently win before the game has even begun. Especially for the decks that just combo infinitely on turn 4, you'll be spending more time shuffling your decks than playing actual Magic - and that's not fun for anyone but the one who won.
      So, the next time you play Magic, just punch everyone else in the face and ask if they want to play again. Because that's apparently your way of "having fun" in Magic.

    • @SpiceCh
      @SpiceCh 11 років тому

      You say that winning is the whole point of Magic. I say that winning is not the point - it's *how* you win that matters. Decks that try to prevent your opponents from playing the game aren't fun for anyone but yourself (not talking tournament play). Winning on turn 2 before the game has even begun just means everyone spent more time shuffling their decks than playing the actual game, and the only person who got anything meaningful out of their time was you. Same goes for a grind-y control deck that kills everything your opponents play, discard their hand and counter their spells only to eventually win with a threat your opponents can't kill (because it's the commander and because you've stripped them of all of their resources to do so). Everyone but you will spend their turns yawning and waiting for the game to end because they aren't able to take any meaningful actions because you'll just stop what they're trying to do anyway. If 4 people are playing the game and you're the only one having fun, then you're doing it wrong.

    • @SpiceCh
      @SpiceCh 11 років тому

      "The point of Magic is to win."
      That is your opinion. Which you didn't express as an opinion, but as an objective fact.
      My opinion on how to play Magic is just as valid as yours. And yes. I say if all you care about is winning, then you might as just punch your opponents in their faces and ask if they want to go again, because no one else than you is going to have fun at the table if your deck is only focused on winning.
      I cite other deck types because the general idea is similar; don't let your opponents play Magic, and ignore as much of what they do as possible. Focus your deck around stopping anything your opponents might do, play stuff that makes your commander unblockable, and then play a commander that 1-hit KO's your opponents. That's more or less the skithiryx deck in a nutshell depending on how much you tune it up.
      And for the record, you started citing stuff like purphoros commander out of the blue and then said that my argument suddenly held no value to you as a player. Dismissing my argument like that is bullshit. You don't even know what kind of decks I'm playing and yet you're assuming that I'm okay with anything as long as it's not infect? So you see, I have a reason to be a slight bit upset at your reply to a 4-month old message when you write stuff like that :)

    • @dontbanwarren
      @dontbanwarren 10 років тому +6

      "Waaaa stop liking what I don't like"

    • @colbyburgess5267
      @colbyburgess5267 10 років тому

      ***** You are a good person. Thumbs up my friend.

  • @Nightwing690
    @Nightwing690 11 років тому

    This guy needs to be banned as a commander, he's so cheap and unfair when you play him, and the person playing him is generally the first one out of the game anyway, if Kokusho is banned as a general, Skittles should be too.

  • @barfbag2828
    @barfbag2828 11 років тому

    Isn't infect cheating in Commander? Way too easy. Waste of a video.

  • @Tedurbin202
    @Tedurbin202 11 років тому

    I'm torn with this one. I love black and I don't mind poison counters, but I hate voltron decks and this certainly qualifies as one. Either way, nice video.