I always believed that Thedas is stuck in a time-loop that begins with the creation of The Veil and ends with its destruction, being Fen'Harel responsible for both. That aligns perfectly with him being "The Maker of the human world" and coincidently explains why Flemeth talked and behaved like she already lived the events we were about to experience in the games. Many more things support this theory, such as the seemingly pointless introduction of time-magic in Inquisition, or Solas' greates fear: dying alone. I suggest replaying all 3 games pretending the time-loop theory is true, and suddenly many quotes like "I nudge history, when its required", "There is a smart lad. Sadly irrelevant to the larger scheme of things" or, of course, "Without an end, there can be no peace" make a whole lot of sense.
That is gold. It would make so much sense. And we all know how Bioware likes cyclic events because of the whole Reaper plot of Mass Effect 1 to 3. It really makes a lot of sense and I sincerely hope they explain everything with Dreadwolf.
Oh that's interesting! Haven't heard it before , but when I finally end up making a vid about some creative DA theories out there , this has to be in the video :0
I don't think Solas is the Maker. I actually believe the Maker exists, what I don't know is if the Maker is that benevolent being the Chantry describes or not.
We always hear from the Dalish that Fen'harel is a deceiver among the Evanuris. Much akin to how Christianity portraits Lucifer between the other archangels. But what we already know is that he really did deceive the Evanuris and created the Veil to prevent them to destroy the world, physically and spiritually (that was, at the time, the same thing). The Veil also ripped the elves of their immortality, what was a huge downside and a real reason for them to keep thinking the Evanuris are the good guys while Solas is the bad one. Then if Solas is the one responsible for creating the reality we get to see in all recorded human history, and the Veil suddenly took all advantage the Elves had in relation to humans, maybe the Chantry has come up with the idea of The Maker as the creator of the reality that made human prosperity possible: Solas. That also aligns well with the Old Gods and the Blight, where the Evanuris is regarded as cruel, evil and corrupted entities that were supplanted by the Maker/Solas, who laid dormant all those years. Ant thinking Andraste was Mythal all the time, it would represent the aliance we see in the end of Tresspasser, where Mythal's soul is transferred to Solas body.
"Then if Solas is the one responsible for creating the reality we get to see in all recorded human history, and the Veil suddenly took all advantage the Elves had in relation to humans, maybe the Chantry has come up with the idea of The Maker as the creator of the reality that made human prosperity possible: Solas. " I like this sentence, it's a good point. If I ever make a video about the Chantry's history, will definitely use that
@@greenbrownblue I started another DAI playthrough yesterday and gasped when Cassandra said "thank the Maker" for something clearly done by Solas. I can't remember exactly what it was, but I was shocked to see how in my face the immediate correlation seemed like. And I'd love to see evidences that prove all religions are talking about the same people and the same events, through the most convenient optics for each group. Most high fantasy games have religion systems too evidently true, with little to no space for ambiguity and even faith (why we need faith when we know the deity clearly is in touch with the world?). And that is mostly because of magic. DA lore is unique in that there are many religions, and all of them are just traditions that were passed over through generations about entities that faithful people believe exist(ed) but can't really prove. And all of them share the protagonism of their people, and not how those events were really happening throughout the world.
I just read the Codex "The Maker" in game and could not think anything other than that the Maker is Solas indeed. Here are some excerpts: "There in the center of heaven A city with towers of gold And banners which flew without wind. The children of the Maker gathered Before his golden throne And the Voice of the Maker shook the Fade My firstborn. You have been given dominion Over all that existis. By your will All things are done. Yet you do nothing. The realm I have given you Is formless, ever-changing. So the Maker turned from his firstborn And took from the Fade A measure of it's living flesh And placed it apart from the Spirits Here, I decree By My Will alone is Balance sundered And the world given new life. And no longer it was formless, ever-changing, But held fast, immutable. And last did the Maker From the living world Make men. Then the Maker said: From the Fade I crafted you, And to the Fade you shall return Each night in dreams That you may always remember me. And then the Maker sealed the gates Of the Golden City And there, He dwelled, waiting To see the wonders His children would create." Clearly this codex makes obvious that the pre-Veil state of the world is recognized even by the Chantry, and that the Maker was the one that turned from his firstborn (that were make in his image) and created the Veil itself, while creating his second-born humans, that dream in the Fade, and locking the Golden City. That is exactly what Solas did. And then we get to dwarves, that don't dream and therefore were not made by this Maker, but maybe by the Titans. If we think of the similarities between this lore and the Greek lore, we get a parallel between Titans vs Gods, or Titans vs Evanuris in DA. Maybe the next game will be about not only the ripping of the Veil, but of Solas as the Maker and maybe everything that can happen with the undoing of this reality. Not only Evanuris coming back, but also Titans awakening, and probably the caos of a world where almost all religions simply cease to make sense. Because suddenly the human Maker is an elf, that is the sole enemy of the elven gods, that might prove being both the Forgotten Ones and the Creators at the same time. Oh my, Dreadwolf will be a great game...
I've heard a theory that Femythal and Andraste are the same person, or at least that Andraste was connected to Mythal like Flemeth is. Flemeth and Andraste have very similar stories- their lover tricks and betrays them- so if Mythal saw herself in Flemeth, it stands to reason she could see herself in Andraste as well. Plus, in Tevinter lore, Andraste was a mage, so if we assume that's true and the South purposely covered it up to fit their narrative, it fits even better. Then, either Andraste intentionally lied about it being the Maker, or genuinely mistook the god she connected with. With this in mind, it also reminds me of a shrine found in The Descent DLC for DAI (I think it was Descent, I havent played it myself), which is adorned with a mish-mash old Chantry items AND old elven artifacts.
In the end, I'm expecting that every religion just changed the same facts and characters for their own political and cultural interests. Dreadwolf can be a very philosophical game if we get to see that syncretism getting all the pieces together.
I suspect something similar too. And before Andraste, the Lady of the Sky might have been possessed by Mythal too. She prevented Tyrdda (her lover) from assaulting a golden city and helped her establish good relationships with dwarves. So freaking hyped and hoping that in a week or so we will get that long promised summer reveal !
Considering who the developers are (ie. both human and have been exposed to at least some real world religions) I think its safe to say that there is a reason why the Orlesian Chantry, Tevinter Chantry, and Elvhen history has so much crossover. Just how many of the worlds bigger religions have cross overs in beliefs, morals, parables, stories, teachings, and rituals, so too does the Thedosian religions. I absolute think that all these commonalities in Thedas are purposeful. My theory: The Golden City, The Black City, and whats left of Arlathan after what solas did = all the same thing. The Old Gods and the Evanuris: same thing.
Yup I think so too. I did not speak about the dwarves much in this video, but they have some interesting takes on the origins of the darkspawn and I will definitely be discussing that in the next video about dwarven history. Their views don't necessarily contradict the Cantincle of Silence assuming that I am right about its interpretation. The Orlesian Chant of Light does not have details of what happened when Magisters were at the gates, so they don't contradict Southern Andrastian texts either
That is one of the main reasons the lore of Dragon Age is better (even though definitely not bigger) than the lore of D&D games or many other high fantasy settings. Instead of embracing a factual approach to gods and make them obviously real, interfering and fonts of power that actively shape the universe, DA lore treats religion as something that emerged from its people. There is real faith because there are no universal truth, so every culture grows believing in what makes more cultural and political sense. That is a much more complex and interesting way of dealing with religion because not only it mimics real life, but also because it resonates with the real human need for answers about the beginning and the end.
It would certainly be interesting if this game turns into a fight between the Maker and the Elvanuris. Add the titans, and we could have a three kingdoms type conflict.
A war between evanuris with the elves, the maker with the humans and the titans with the dwarves. And the Qunari being like "cool, they are all distracted, lets invade and bring the Qun all over Thedas!" Could be fun.
Yesssss! Rly hoping to feel that sense of desperation from Mass Effect 3. Hopefully, the ending is better though lol. There was so much drama around that
From what I remember of the chant of light is that most of it was written based on Drakon's "visions" of Andraste. Drakon was an ambitious expansionist and most likely used a somewhat widespread cult to give divine justification for his power grab. I can't remember clearly if Andraste was said to have penned any of the verses of the chant directly or if it was her companions who worshipped her that "faithfully" transcribed her words. In other words most of the basis for the structure and organization of the chantry comes I believe is directly attributable to Drakon and not Andraste and this includes portions of the holy text used by the chantry. My other theory is that the chantry deliberately made it forbidden for mages in the circle to truly study and develop magic so that they could keep the mages somewhat weak and ignorant making them essentially easy targets for demons in order to justify to the public that mages are scary and prone to becoming abominations and therefore the public needed the chantry to protect them. I also find the chantry very hypocritical. They knowingly created abominations (since the chantry doesn't seem to distinguish between demon possessed versus spirit possessed the term would apply here) to serve their purposes (in the form of seekers) and even if they didn't know lyrium was titan's blood there use of it to create templars meant that the chantry also employed blood magic when it suited their purpose. Not to mention the whole phylactry thing is blood magic.
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We're getting closer to the fall release date window, with more and more information being dropped. Having studied that and then watched this video, it feels more and more like the Chant of Light is propaganda from the Evanuris. Like they would step out of the Fade prisons, and Ghil (Lady of Sorrows) presents Elgar'nan as the Maker and say they are there to make things right. In the olden days they needed followers bound to them to supply them with power it seemed. The more followers one had, the more power one wielded. So coming through the Fade weakened, I imagine them rallying the faithful to their side by pretending themselves to be Andraste and the Maker. Or at least the Maker and his herald. We'd then have to undermine their proclamations and slowly wedge the doubt back into the hearts of the faithful that these are not the Maker they believe in and their sidekick, but wicked beings trying to corrupt them. If I read the chant from this perspective, words whispered throughout the ages to rally 'believers' to their side, Veilguard becomes a much darker game than I thought..
The DAI mosaics are about Mythal's murder. It's really obvious when you put all five of them in the right order. It also makes more sense that putting in the effort of collecting all of them gives you a glimpse at the lore that was being revealed in that game, rather than a depiction of the known backstory.
He might turn out to be! Or maybe the "Maker" refers to a group of people/souls, including Solas. The "Maker" is not exactly a "god", but a creator with very anthropomorphic features - like hopefulness or biased and flawed planning (for example Gaider says the Old Gods' actions were not in the Maker's plans). Anyway, would be fun even just because everybody used to hate on the old god - evanuris connection - which turned out to be true - and there is still a lot of party poopers out there who just would not others have fun with the idea of Solas being the Maker.
@@jabloneynophony1875. He didn't create the world. Also, we don't know what is the origin of humans and dwarves, for instance . Where were they during the pre-veil world?
There have been rumors that Solas is the Maker. I mean the paintings in the Chantry depict him as some hooded figured and yet his most faithful never saw his face. What if Solas wrote the Chant of Light as a means of restoring the world back to the way things are before the Veil and even before the Evanuris?
I was debating mentioning the Chantry art, but then remember the temple of Mythal? Abelas and everybody there was bald. Solas also mentioned he was asleep for millennia. Hopefully his last speech is half-truths and truths, not lies. Mythal on the other hand was awake and she's constantly interfering in shaping Thedas history. If she has anything to do with the Lady of the Sky, she basically prevented the Avvars from committing the first sin ages before Tevinter assaulted the Fade. Maybe she had some impact on Shartan.
Anyway, reason why I mention Mythal being awake while Solas wasn't is coz you guys know how I said maybe the Chantry "Maker" is more than one deity? Maybe it's Fen'Harel and Myhtal. With Solas absorbing something out of Flemeth he's one person, but possibly hosting more than one soul. A Maker, not Makers.
Solas did what he did to stop the Evanuris. If the Archdemons are Evanuris that awake from the abyss, then that means the history took care of all but the last two. And maybe he decided it was time to revert the world back to what it was, given those two archdemons can be dealt with, meaning the end of the Evanuris threat.
@@GabrielPassarelliG Thats the string theory Ive pretty much adapted. Each Archdemon is the physical form of the original Evanuris. While their spirits were locked behind the veil their corporal bodies were buried in the earth. The Blight started because of Andruil, she brought back the taint from the void. That's why Solas banished the Evanuris because nearly all were already tainted (body wise if not spirt wise as well) and had gone mad. There is already prophecy that hints at Fen'harel's return heralded by an eclipse and two dragons. So theres the big hint that we're going to get a double blight.
I get where youre coming from but the Evanuris do form the baseline of all human religions and elven religions. It seems the only relgion not connected to the Evanuris were the dwarves. But even then, it seems like the Evanuris did have a profound effect on dwarven religion by mining the titans for lyrium.
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I always believed that Thedas is stuck in a time-loop that begins with the creation of The Veil and ends with its destruction, being Fen'Harel responsible for both. That aligns perfectly with him being "The Maker of the human world" and coincidently explains why Flemeth talked and behaved like she already lived the events we were about to experience in the games. Many more things support this theory, such as the seemingly pointless introduction of time-magic in Inquisition, or Solas' greates fear: dying alone.
I suggest replaying all 3 games pretending the time-loop theory is true, and suddenly many quotes like "I nudge history, when its required", "There is a smart lad. Sadly irrelevant to the larger scheme of things" or, of course, "Without an end, there can be no peace" make a whole lot of sense.
That is gold. It would make so much sense. And we all know how Bioware likes cyclic events because of the whole Reaper plot of Mass Effect 1 to 3. It really makes a lot of sense and I sincerely hope they explain everything with Dreadwolf.
Oh that's interesting! Haven't heard it before , but when I finally end up making a vid about some creative DA theories out there , this has to be in the video :0
I don't think Solas is the Maker.
I actually believe the Maker exists, what I don't know is if the Maker is that benevolent being the Chantry describes or not.
We always hear from the Dalish that Fen'harel is a deceiver among the Evanuris. Much akin to how Christianity portraits Lucifer between the other archangels. But what we already know is that he really did deceive the Evanuris and created the Veil to prevent them to destroy the world, physically and spiritually (that was, at the time, the same thing). The Veil also ripped the elves of their immortality, what was a huge downside and a real reason for them to keep thinking the Evanuris are the good guys while Solas is the bad one. Then if Solas is the one responsible for creating the reality we get to see in all recorded human history, and the Veil suddenly took all advantage the Elves had in relation to humans, maybe the Chantry has come up with the idea of The Maker as the creator of the reality that made human prosperity possible: Solas. That also aligns well with the Old Gods and the Blight, where the Evanuris is regarded as cruel, evil and corrupted entities that were supplanted by the Maker/Solas, who laid dormant all those years. Ant thinking Andraste was Mythal all the time, it would represent the aliance we see in the end of Tresspasser, where Mythal's soul is transferred to Solas body.
"Then if Solas is the one responsible for creating the reality we get to see in all recorded human history, and the Veil suddenly took all advantage the Elves had in relation to humans, maybe the Chantry has come up with the idea of The Maker as the creator of the reality that made human prosperity possible: Solas. " I like this sentence, it's a good point. If I ever make a video about the Chantry's history, will definitely use that
@@greenbrownblue I started another DAI playthrough yesterday and gasped when Cassandra said "thank the Maker" for something clearly done by Solas. I can't remember exactly what it was, but I was shocked to see how in my face the immediate correlation seemed like. And I'd love to see evidences that prove all religions are talking about the same people and the same events, through the most convenient optics for each group. Most high fantasy games have religion systems too evidently true, with little to no space for ambiguity and even faith (why we need faith when we know the deity clearly is in touch with the world?). And that is mostly because of magic. DA lore is unique in that there are many religions, and all of them are just traditions that were passed over through generations about entities that faithful people believe exist(ed) but can't really prove. And all of them share the protagonism of their people, and not how those events were really happening throughout the world.
I just read the Codex "The Maker" in game and could not think anything other than that the Maker is Solas indeed. Here are some excerpts:
"There in the center of heaven
A city with towers of gold
And banners which flew without wind.
The children of the Maker gathered
Before his golden throne
And the Voice of the Maker shook the Fade
My firstborn. You have been given dominion
Over all that existis. By your will
All things are done.
Yet you do nothing.
The realm I have given you
Is formless, ever-changing.
So the Maker turned from his firstborn
And took from the Fade
A measure of it's living flesh
And placed it apart from the Spirits
Here, I decree
By My Will alone is Balance sundered
And the world given new life.
And no longer it was formless, ever-changing,
But held fast, immutable.
And last did the Maker
From the living world
Make men.
Then the Maker said:
From the Fade I crafted you,
And to the Fade you shall return
Each night in dreams
That you may always remember me.
And then the Maker sealed the gates
Of the Golden City
And there, He dwelled, waiting
To see the wonders
His children would create."
Clearly this codex makes obvious that the pre-Veil state of the world is recognized even by the Chantry, and that the Maker was the one that turned from his firstborn (that were make in his image) and created the Veil itself, while creating his second-born humans, that dream in the Fade, and locking the Golden City. That is exactly what Solas did. And then we get to dwarves, that don't dream and therefore were not made by this Maker, but maybe by the Titans.
If we think of the similarities between this lore and the Greek lore, we get a parallel between Titans vs Gods, or Titans vs Evanuris in DA. Maybe the next game will be about not only the ripping of the Veil, but of Solas as the Maker and maybe everything that can happen with the undoing of this reality. Not only Evanuris coming back, but also Titans awakening, and probably the caos of a world where almost all religions simply cease to make sense. Because suddenly the human Maker is an elf, that is the sole enemy of the elven gods, that might prove being both the Forgotten Ones and the Creators at the same time. Oh my, Dreadwolf will be a great game...
Mythal soul is in Morrigan not Solas.
I've heard a theory that Femythal and Andraste are the same person, or at least that Andraste was connected to Mythal like Flemeth is. Flemeth and Andraste have very similar stories- their lover tricks and betrays them- so if Mythal saw herself in Flemeth, it stands to reason she could see herself in Andraste as well. Plus, in Tevinter lore, Andraste was a mage, so if we assume that's true and the South purposely covered it up to fit their narrative, it fits even better. Then, either Andraste intentionally lied about it being the Maker, or genuinely mistook the god she connected with. With this in mind, it also reminds me of a shrine found in The Descent DLC for DAI (I think it was Descent, I havent played it myself), which is adorned with a mish-mash old Chantry items AND old elven artifacts.
In the end, I'm expecting that every religion just changed the same facts and characters for their own political and cultural interests. Dreadwolf can be a very philosophical game if we get to see that syncretism getting all the pieces together.
I suspect something similar too. And before Andraste, the Lady of the Sky might have been possessed by Mythal too. She prevented Tyrdda (her lover) from assaulting a golden city and helped her establish good relationships with dwarves. So freaking hyped and hoping that in a week or so we will get that long promised summer reveal !
Considering who the developers are (ie. both human and have been exposed to at least some real world religions) I think its safe to say that there is a reason why the Orlesian Chantry, Tevinter Chantry, and Elvhen history has so much crossover. Just how many of the worlds bigger religions have cross overs in beliefs, morals, parables, stories, teachings, and rituals, so too does the Thedosian religions. I absolute think that all these commonalities in Thedas are purposeful.
My theory: The Golden City, The Black City, and whats left of Arlathan after what solas did = all the same thing.
The Old Gods and the Evanuris: same thing.
Yup I think so too. I did not speak about the dwarves much in this video, but they have some interesting takes on the origins of the darkspawn and I will definitely be discussing that in the next video about dwarven history. Their views don't necessarily contradict the Cantincle of Silence assuming that I am right about its interpretation. The Orlesian Chant of Light does not have details of what happened when Magisters were at the gates, so they don't contradict Southern Andrastian texts either
That is one of the main reasons the lore of Dragon Age is better (even though definitely not bigger) than the lore of D&D games or many other high fantasy settings. Instead of embracing a factual approach to gods and make them obviously real, interfering and fonts of power that actively shape the universe, DA lore treats religion as something that emerged from its people. There is real faith because there are no universal truth, so every culture grows believing in what makes more cultural and political sense. That is a much more complex and interesting way of dealing with religion because not only it mimics real life, but also because it resonates with the real human need for answers about the beginning and the end.
It would certainly be interesting if this game turns into a fight between the Maker and the Elvanuris. Add the titans, and we could have a three kingdoms type conflict.
A war between evanuris with the elves, the maker with the humans and the titans with the dwarves. And the Qunari being like "cool, they are all distracted, lets invade and bring the Qun all over Thedas!"
Could be fun.
Yesssss! Rly hoping to feel that sense of desperation from Mass Effect 3. Hopefully, the ending is better though lol. There was so much drama around that
@@greenbrownblue Sad to see that BioWare didnt have thr chance to put out the actual endings they had in mind. Deadlines and stuff.
From what I remember of the chant of light is that most of it was written based on Drakon's "visions" of Andraste. Drakon was an ambitious expansionist and most likely used a somewhat widespread cult to give divine justification for his power grab. I can't remember clearly if Andraste was said to have penned any of the verses of the chant directly or if it was her companions who worshipped her that "faithfully" transcribed her words. In other words most of the basis for the structure and organization of the chantry comes I believe is directly attributable to Drakon and not Andraste and this includes portions of the holy text used by the chantry.
My other theory is that the chantry deliberately made it forbidden for mages in the circle to truly study and develop magic so that they could keep the mages somewhat weak and ignorant making them essentially easy targets for demons in order to justify to the public that mages are scary and prone to becoming abominations and therefore the public needed the chantry to protect them.
I also find the chantry very hypocritical. They knowingly created abominations (since the chantry doesn't seem to distinguish between demon possessed versus spirit possessed the term would apply here) to serve their purposes (in the form of seekers) and even if they didn't know lyrium was titan's blood there use of it to create templars meant that the chantry also employed blood magic when it suited their purpose. Not to mention the whole phylactry thing is blood magic.
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We're getting closer to the fall release date window, with more and more information being dropped. Having studied that and then watched this video, it feels more and more like the Chant of Light is propaganda from the Evanuris. Like they would step out of the Fade prisons, and Ghil (Lady of Sorrows) presents Elgar'nan as the Maker and say they are there to make things right.
In the olden days they needed followers bound to them to supply them with power it seemed. The more followers one had, the more power one wielded. So coming through the Fade weakened, I imagine them rallying the faithful to their side by pretending themselves to be Andraste and the Maker. Or at least the Maker and his herald. We'd then have to undermine their proclamations and slowly wedge the doubt back into the hearts of the faithful that these are not the Maker they believe in and their sidekick, but wicked beings trying to corrupt them.
If I read the chant from this perspective, words whispered throughout the ages to rally 'believers' to their side, Veilguard becomes a much darker game than I thought..
The DAI mosaics are about Mythal's murder. It's really obvious when you put all five of them in the right order.
It also makes more sense that putting in the effort of collecting all of them gives you a glimpse at the lore that was being revealed in that game, rather than a depiction of the known backstory.
What if Solas is the Maker ? 😅
He might turn out to be! Or maybe the "Maker" refers to a group of people/souls, including Solas. The "Maker" is not exactly a "god", but a creator with very anthropomorphic features - like hopefulness or biased and flawed planning (for example Gaider says the Old Gods' actions were not in the Maker's plans). Anyway, would be fun even just because everybody used to hate on the old god - evanuris connection - which turned out to be true - and there is still a lot of party poopers out there who just would not others have fun with the idea of Solas being the Maker.
@@jabloneynophony1875. He didn't create the world. Also, we don't know what is the origin of humans and dwarves, for instance .
Where were they during the pre-veil world?
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Yeah, I'm honestly still not convinced that Solas isn't the 'Maker'. I at least hope it's not one of the other elven gods.
There have been rumors that Solas is the Maker. I mean the paintings in the Chantry depict him as some hooded figured and yet his most faithful never saw his face. What if Solas wrote the Chant of Light as a means of restoring the world back to the way things are before the Veil and even before the Evanuris?
Some argue that he was Shartan. I think that theory is way more plausible than him being the Maker.
I was debating mentioning the Chantry art, but then remember the temple of Mythal? Abelas and everybody there was bald. Solas also mentioned he was asleep for millennia. Hopefully his last speech is half-truths and truths, not lies. Mythal on the other hand was awake and she's constantly interfering in shaping Thedas history. If she has anything to do with the Lady of the Sky, she basically prevented the Avvars from committing the first sin ages before Tevinter assaulted the Fade. Maybe she had some impact on Shartan.
Anyway, reason why I mention Mythal being awake while Solas wasn't is coz you guys know how I said maybe the Chantry "Maker" is more than one deity? Maybe it's Fen'Harel and Myhtal. With Solas absorbing something out of Flemeth he's one person, but possibly hosting more than one soul. A Maker, not Makers.
Solas did what he did to stop the Evanuris. If the Archdemons are Evanuris that awake from the abyss, then that means the history took care of all but the last two. And maybe he decided it was time to revert the world back to what it was, given those two archdemons can be dealt with, meaning the end of the Evanuris threat.
@@GabrielPassarelliG Thats the string theory Ive pretty much adapted. Each Archdemon is the physical form of the original Evanuris. While their spirits were locked behind the veil their corporal bodies were buried in the earth. The Blight started because of Andruil, she brought back the taint from the void. That's why Solas banished the Evanuris because nearly all were already tainted (body wise if not spirt wise as well) and had gone mad. There is already prophecy that hints at Fen'harel's return heralded by an eclipse and two dragons. So theres the big hint that we're going to get a double blight.
I get where youre coming from but the Evanuris do form the baseline of all human religions and elven religions.
It seems the only relgion not connected to the Evanuris were the dwarves. But even then, it seems like the Evanuris did have a profound effect on dwarven religion by mining the titans for lyrium.
Andraste was an elven mage 😂😅😂