I keep holding on to my Xfire module lol!! I see you guys over there on elrs... it's like Christmas every 6 months, and I'm still over here trying to remember to reset my power output everytime i turn the radio back on lol! This may be the one that gets me over! Is anybody doing any long range testing with these yet?? Thanks JB!! You are a true asset to the hobby, and I doubt I'd have ever gotten off the ground without your help!
Impressive! And at such a reasonable price, too. My HapptModel ES24TX Pro has served me well for 2 years, but it needs a new antenna, which was set to cost me a quarter of the cost of a whole new module. I've been drooling over the Radiomaster modules for some time, and the chance to get a good brand dual band gemini module for cheap was the final straw. I have slapped the money down and ordered one direct from RadioMaster, complete set of module + xrossband receiver + all the antennas. Now I just need a quad to put it in!! I love that this will just keep working with my existing quads while giving me a no-risk route to experiment with 900 MHz and Gemini. Bravo, ExpressLRS team and RadioMaster, you are just hitting the ball out of the park.
This is perfect technology for large RC airplanes, both gasoline and turbine-powered, where maximum redundancy and safety are needed. Create PWM receivers, and you will gain a new, large market.
@@RichardAFPV this will depend on interference in the area . Some rc fields we can absolutely fly los well beyond 2.4 just because of the interference in the area . Also when flying a 10k plus aircraft why leave it to chance ?
@@666gatothe range provided by ELRS is *huge*, people have gone 40km on 25mW of transmit power at 2.4GHz. It would take an awful lot of interference to drown out LoRa signals.
Thank you for these videos, I have just recently have gotten interested into fpv drones and your videos are super informative and helpful, I dont have enough to get a drone right now but I have been on liftoff for quite some time now and ive been enjoying flying around you yard.. haha, but on a real note much appreciated thank you.
As a happy owner of a Boxer 4in1, migrating to ELRS, I have both Ranger and Bandit module, because I use both 2.4 and 915 frequencies, depending on the day and depending on the model Iḿ flying. Now I can have both frequencies in only one TX module. This is great for my applications, and yes, I already have pre-ordered one.
Very cool. But will it fit in my backpack without having to remove the module from the radio.? 🤔😁 Great review of a very interesting and innovative product. Looking forward to Radiomaster coming out with Nomad Gemini built in. 👍😎
Always thought that "Dual Band ELSR" (900/2.4) will work in a way that for example: You will set a 1000Hz rate, and 1000 packages will be transmitted over 2.4 (with benefits of latency), and every 10 packages, a package will be sent through 900Mhz. That is why You will get a speed of 2.4 and 'failsafe communication' over 900.
I fly large scale fixed wing and am attracted by the extra security offered by dual band ELRS. Does anybody see any issues with plugging the s.bus output of two elrs receivers working on different bands into the two s.bus inputs of a redundant servo distribution box?
they call it low band because it's either 900 or 868mhz depending where you are (although i don't knwo how to configure between 868 and 900mhz maybe the difference between fcc and lbt firmwares ? )
Hey I'm pretty new to fpv but have so far I've been able to figure out enough to have a lot of fun flying my first drone, the speedybee bee25 cinewhoop. I have been excited about the prospect of longer range cruisers, and got myself a geprc tern lr40 equipped with elsr 915 receiver, and a Nomad module for my boxer crush. Getting the Nomad working was not at all straight forward, and I'm surprised that in this video you didn't show that process, or maybe I missed it? Is this process covered in your edge tx video?
I fly 900mhz almost exclusively with my FPV gear and had two instances of close-range (about 200m clear line of sight) failsafe due to what I assume was a nearby high power aggressor. RTH worked, so no biggie, but I'm pretty sure X band ELRS or FrSky Tandem would have prevented the link loss. I can see how the majority of current 900mhz pilots transition to this.
It has a JR module bay adapter, but doesn’t fit in the module bay. I suppose it isn’t that big, but still would be nice if it fit in the bay instead of on it.
hey man iam new to the community and started building my drone but i have a problem with the drone spinning after arming the drone and the reciever is bounded to the transmitter but the moment i throttle on the radio the motors won't spin at all.
We are getting closer to what dji mavics are implementing, the dual band... What we need is a dual band elrs receiver and thats it... We will have uninterrupted transmission... Hopefully the vtx world will do someting about long range digital...
Could you make a video of the crossfire micro tx v2 to the rc8x by radiolink, rc car connections? Please link the needed parts receiver, etc. New to long range. And would like to increase my range for speed runs. Thanks
Hello, question. I have ordered my pavo25 v2 with o3 and 2.4 elrs included with it..If i buy this module, will it pair with the 2.4elrs cause the module is dual band ay.. Can my pavo25 v2 elrs connect to dual band module even though the elrs in the drone is not dual band? I'm planning to build a nazgul evoque and put a dual band receiver in it tho in future. I think it will help me in future
I’m an absolute newb about to buy my first everything. I’m looking at going with elrs Should I buy the radio master boxer 4 in one and the elrs module, or the elrs boxer?
Hi Joshua... having trouble with the v2 goggles when switching between FPV and digital requiring to bind each time switching. For instance switching between vista and 03 air unit. Any clues on how to resolve? Really appreciate any input!!
Hi @Joshua Bardwell One question, I'm seeing in radiomaster website that there is only FCC version available, do you know if this can be used in Europe ? I'm buying new gear and finding out the best options for both fixed wings and drones.
@@JoshuaBardwell not legally though, since they don't have CE. The fact that it also does run on 868 doesn't imply it passed any EU requirements. The protocol they use is simply illegal over here. Please keep in mind that the importer is responsible for providing a valid CE certification. If a consumer imports a non ce product himself within the EU, all legal responsibility and consequences will be for the consumer that did import the product. It can get you in serious problems.
I know this is a little off topic but I just noticed something last night that right after I plug-in a quad to betaflight the 3-D model in the setup screen is very erratic but after it sits still for a few seconds then everything seems to be fine. I've just never noticed this before and I have researched everywhere trying to figure this out. As always thanks for the awesome content Joshua.
Je n' était pas encore passer a l express lrs.par feignantise ou autre allez savoir...mais la ...avec se système Gemini dual band...je vais passer a ce nouveau système..je trouve que c est une super option...merci de cet vidéo ..et bon vol a tous ..
How do I change my controllers mode from mode 2 to mode 4 I can't find a vid anywhere I want to change it because that's how I learnt in a sim with mode 4
Product aside you say you don't understand how the Bayck antennas work or are tuned but somehow trust the Radiomaster antennas on the TX module which do the same thing?
I think that's because on the Tx it's using one antenna per band (can use either as they're dual band), and bayck Rx is doing both bands on one antenna at the same time, it's different.
Hello mr JB.. yup ...its a me again 🫣😁 an i dea..for a video i would say we need but really.. i need lolb to know all about elrs. And all about it. Packets,hertz .. low, highs bands. maga 1.or 2 points ecttra. Gemini what. Dule somestuff. And. What dose it all mean. How dose it apply? And yes im useing elrs. And i kinda know some reasons why. But i dont understand it. what it dose . Why it works and how to fix it best for me. And my right now question .. lol😅😊 Do i need to update my elrs? I haven't since i set it up. And firm ware means the same thing ? And if you already own the elrs boxer. Would you want or can a elrs module make the radio stronger? Or a norher benefit maby? Sorry.. dumb question s maybe. But i am very clueless when it comes toall the radio protocol.
the dual band antenna's are similar to a fan dipole. there are some trade-offs when using this type of antenna. it wont preform as well as two separate antennas. it can have a higher SWR resulting in poor telemetry or even permanent damage to the receiver or yourself.
@@Meonlymeagainthis product dont have any ce, so i assume it will also not be legal to use within the uk. Within the EU, it's indeed illegal despite the ability to run on 869mhz
Looks like BayckRC is using dual 1/4 wave antennas, each with a single wire for the ground plane, one tuned for 2.4GHz and the other 900Mhz, in a V configuration (>-center conductor, ground-
@@ssbailey1981 I guess I should have corrected myself and said 1/4 wave *ground plane*. 1/2 waves typically dont have a "ground" element, and most certainly wouldn't be as compact in size as those in the video were. Correcting myself again, I'm going to guess you are talking about a center connected 1/2 wave dipole? That could be the configuration in use, since each element on the dipole is only 1/4 wave length, and would match the size pictured in the video.
@Joshua Bardwell BF 4.5 required preset for link for examples 250Hz how it will be work well it this system will be switching for different link parameters?
Does anyone know what frame will be able to mount this receiver? Im new to FPV and I just purchased the TX16s JB version and the Nomad module and the DBR4 Dual Band Xross Gemini ExpressLRS Receiver. This might be a dumb question but I just jumped right in. I think i may have complicated or limited my choices on the frame now that i purchased this module .
Considering i already bought the module , im having trouble on which frame to buy . I’m going with the air unit o3 so that takes up the 20x20 mounting slot on most frames correct ? Also where do the antennas on the drone sit
I have a feeling they’ll be bringing something like that shortly. You know they’ll put the module in new radios plus a lot of people liked the jumper radios touchscreen so you have to think they’ll capitalize on that.
I still use ELRS on my whoops and Crossfire on everything else. I carry RadioMaster ELRS gear in my shop, and stil l prefer Crossfire for my daily connection. It's easier to use and more reliable in my tests. Elrs is faster, rapidly evolving, but also more fragmented and complicated as a result.
I am not a TBS fanboy, but I have played quite a bit with those Semtech transcievers and on low fps/higher latency modes on 'low band' great range and penetration can be achieved. That's why I believe Crossfire might have an edge in that area. Though I have never tested ELRS vs Crossfire head to head in demanding conditions.
Hello sir, I know you're busy handling stuffs and maybe quite impossible for you noticing my comment. I really want to have a DJI FPV, can I somehow have what's yours? I know what I ask is too much but, I really want to have one of your DJI FPV's, yes I know I should be buying my own but, since I'm still at highschool, don't know if I can buy my own soon, cause yk, that type of DJI FPV production has officially ended. Hope you'll notice, hoping. Thank you and more blessings to come sir!
too much yakking about irrevelant stuff. not enough stuff about the actual module : what's the precise weight ? what material is it made out of ? If I plug it into my Dji Neo, will it fly faster ?
So much confidence. I wonder if you even checked the LoRa sensitivity chart. 50Hz vs 2Hz makes a bit of a difference. Not to mention twice the power output.
@@JoshuaBardwell No, no. That's not the point. I thought the dynamic Crossfire behaviour allowed going as low as 2Hz. I have checked the current documentation and indeed, there is a mode running between 50Hz and 4Hz with forced telemetry, but it's not the normal mode Crossfire operates on. The 'normal' one is 50Hz LoRa and 150Hz FSK as far as I understand and in this case it won't have any edge over ELRS. Happy flying guys!
@JoshuaBardwell analysis of the semtech 1121 datasheet......the transceiver can do 150mhz to 960.....or 2.4 Im wrong about the 800 part. Low band is an accurate description of the transceiver capability
That's actually really interesting. I wonder how far out of band the front end can handle. Like I'm sure something like 150mhz would probably burn up the amplifier with high swr.....but this chipset opens some doors for those of us who tinker
I just want the best radio in the world FINALLY FINALLY.....THE JUMPER T15......blue....with a 4in1 module plane and jets and of course quads!!!! Here I come FINALLY the quad gods have heard my prayers 🙏🏼
I keep holding on to my Xfire module lol!! I see you guys over there on elrs... it's like Christmas every 6 months, and I'm still over here trying to remember to reset my power output everytime i turn the radio back on lol! This may be the one that gets me over! Is anybody doing any long range testing with these yet?? Thanks JB!! You are a true asset to the hobby, and I doubt I'd have ever gotten off the ground without your help!
bruh the shirt killed me lol
it got me
Impressive! And at such a reasonable price, too. My HapptModel ES24TX Pro has served me well for 2 years, but it needs a new antenna, which was set to cost me a quarter of the cost of a whole new module. I've been drooling over the Radiomaster modules for some time, and the chance to get a good brand dual band gemini module for cheap was the final straw. I have slapped the money down and ordered one direct from RadioMaster, complete set of module + xrossband receiver + all the antennas. Now I just need a quad to put it in!! I love that this will just keep working with my existing quads while giving me a no-risk route to experiment with 900 MHz and Gemini. Bravo, ExpressLRS team and RadioMaster, you are just hitting the ball out of the park.
Would love to see that build
Just got into the live streams, then they stopped😥They're the perfect balance of technical knowledge, humour and rant!...Hope all is well.
This is perfect technology for large RC airplanes, both gasoline and turbine-powered, where maximum redundancy and safety are needed. Create PWM receivers, and you will gain a new, large market.
Most of us are running frsky tandemon the lage scale planes and turbines . Its 2.4 and 900 simultaneously works great I run It on my quads as well .
Not really. A single ELRS system on either frequency will LONG outperform any line of sight aircraft.
@@RichardAFPV this will depend on interference in the area . Some rc fields we can absolutely fly los well beyond 2.4 just because of the interference in the area . Also when flying a 10k plus aircraft why leave it to chance ?
...it is also perfect in a battlefield, where the enemy may be jamming some frequencies
@@666gatothe range provided by ELRS is *huge*, people have gone 40km on 25mW of transmit power at 2.4GHz. It would take an awful lot of interference to drown out LoRa signals.
Those dual band antennas look like fan dipoles. Totally legit. Just two dipoles connected to the same feed point and the RF goes where the match is.
I will most definitely be getting this for my TX16s MKII!
Fantastic review, Joshua! Thanks a bunch! 😃
I want a radio with it internally! 😂
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Greetings from Ukraine 🙌✨ I just bought Nomad through the affiliate link. Thank you for all the valuable knowledge, Joshua!
the best time to be living fpv pilots...☺🤩
Thank you for these videos, I have just recently have gotten interested into fpv drones and your videos are super informative and helpful, I dont have enough to get a drone right now but I have been on liftoff for quite some time now and ive been enjoying flying around you yard.. haha, but on a real note much appreciated thank you.
Thank You, you answered all my questions on Compatibility! Very Cool!
As a happy owner of a Boxer 4in1, migrating to ELRS, I have both Ranger and Bandit module, because I use both 2.4 and 915 frequencies, depending on the day and depending on the model Iḿ flying. Now I can have both frequencies in only one TX module. This is great for my applications, and yes, I already have pre-ordered one.
Damn, if I keep watching your vids I will learn something but then I go buy stuff. I am spending my kids inheritance. Thanks amigo
This is incredible JB! Thanks Bro!
I just need a 2.4 elrs module in a dji controller 2? with double press single button arming. You're my man Joshua ;D
Very cool. But will it fit in my backpack without having to remove the module from the radio.? 🤔😁
Great review of a very interesting and innovative product. Looking forward to Radiomaster coming out with Nomad Gemini built in. 👍😎
Always thought that "Dual Band ELSR" (900/2.4) will work in a way that for example: You will set a 1000Hz rate, and 1000 packages will be transmitted over 2.4 (with benefits of latency), and every 10 packages, a package will be sent through 900Mhz. That is why You will get a speed of 2.4 and 'failsafe communication' over 900.
Will this fit my Taranis qx7?
Love your t-short hahahah
Possible max range of this nomad?
I fly large scale fixed wing and am attracted by the extra security offered by dual band ELRS. Does anybody see any issues with plugging the s.bus output of two elrs receivers working on different bands into the two s.bus inputs of a redundant servo distribution box?
This is the video I needed
One to rule them all
they call it low band because it's either 900 or 868mhz depending where you are (although i don't knwo how to configure between 868 and 900mhz maybe the difference between fcc and lbt firmwares ? )
I just bought the ranger module, debating ir i should send it back and order this one hahaha
I just bought one of these
Hey I'm pretty new to fpv but have so far I've been able to figure out enough to have a lot of fun flying my first drone, the speedybee bee25 cinewhoop. I have been excited about the prospect of longer range cruisers, and got myself a geprc tern lr40 equipped with elsr 915 receiver, and a Nomad module for my boxer crush.
Getting the Nomad working was not at all straight forward, and I'm surprised that in this video you didn't show that process, or maybe I missed it? Is this process covered in your edge tx video?
Can I use this module to my spektrum nx8
My dream product
For flying large cine rigs seems like magic pills.
Hello! How to switch the wifi mode on nomad using the button that it has on the back (the one that lights up)? Thanks!
greate! now i want Pocket with this built in. and more buttons and switches
I fly 900mhz almost exclusively with my FPV gear and had two instances of close-range (about 200m clear line of sight) failsafe due to what I assume was a nearby high power aggressor. RTH worked, so no biggie, but I'm pretty sure X band ELRS or FrSky Tandem would have prevented the link loss. I can see how the majority of current 900mhz pilots transition to this.
Overkill is what I want. I like this idea. I will have to get one.
will this be beneficial for single antenna receiver like rp1 elrs 2.4? will it improve my signal on noisy environment like concerts?
It has a JR module bay adapter, but doesn’t fit in the module bay. I suppose it isn’t that big, but still would be nice if it fit in the bay instead of on it.
where is the bayckrc links at?
Can this connect to arduepilot and Wi-Fi to a ground station for mavlink telemetry?
I don't know if it supports Mavlink re-transmission over WiFi.
Im on the market for a new transmitter. Will there be a radio with the duel band feature built in?
hey man iam new to the community and started building my drone but i have a problem with the drone spinning after arming the drone and the reciever is bounded to the transmitter but the moment i throttle on the radio the motors won't spin at all.
We are getting closer to what dji mavics are implementing, the dual band... What we need is a dual band elrs receiver and thats it... We will have uninterrupted transmission... Hopefully the vtx world will do someting about long range digital...
There is a new dual band elrs receiver, also from radiomaster.
You have to try if you didn't till today but the TBS Agent lite gives you a much better user experience like the expresslrs luascript :D
Could you make a video of the crossfire micro tx v2 to the rc8x by radiolink, rc car connections? Please link the needed parts receiver, etc. New to long range. And would like to increase my range for speed runs. Thanks
I don't own the rc8x. I'd recommend getting a radio like Radiomaster Pocket or Boxer.
Nice shirt
Nooby question - still on the sim, why is radio transmission so important if you are likely to lose your video feed first?
Losing video first isn't a guarantee basically. Plus it's all about having a radio link that is so good, you're never having to worry about it.
In some environments with lots of concrete it’s not entirely uncommon to lose 900 first before 5.8g, especially at lower wattage like 250mw
Sold! Just bought mine on pre-order. How long does it usually take?
Hello, question. I have ordered my pavo25 v2 with o3 and 2.4 elrs included with it..If i buy this module, will it pair with the 2.4elrs cause the module is dual band ay..
Can my pavo25 v2 elrs connect to dual band module even though the elrs in the drone is not dual band?
I'm planning to build a nazgul evoque and put a dual band receiver in it tho in future. I think it will help me in future
Yes this module will bind with 2.4 ELRS RX.
Do you think this type of dual band tranasmitter could be standard in the next Radiomaster boxer?
What is jemini?
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Hi Joshua, I have a jumper T20 radio. Can I fit the radio master nomad express LRS? David from Cairns QLD
Needs some different form factor receivers to take advantage of this, I hope they have those lined up next.
I’m an absolute newb about to buy my first everything.
I’m looking at going with elrs
Should I buy the radio master boxer 4 in one and the elrs module, or the elrs boxer?
Will the nomad fit the radiomaster pocket?
Yes!
So can I get a vrx module and goggles to have a dual camera setup to run a vr like feed to have depth perception?
Just getting back into flying and have an old taranis that still works. Is this compatible with the taranis?
Yes. Flash the Taranis to EdgeTX.
@ I’ll look for your tutorial on how to do that. Also, I’m glad to have found you well and still being a great contributor.
Omg that RX is antenna heavy forsure
Hi Joshua... having trouble with the v2 goggles when switching between FPV and digital requiring to bind each time switching. For instance switching between vista and 03 air unit. Any clues on how to resolve? Really appreciate any input!!
Hi, can you use this module in a Taranis X9D?
Hi @Joshua Bardwell
One question, I'm seeing in radiomaster website that there is only FCC version available, do you know if this can be used in Europe ?
I'm buying new gear and finding out the best options for both fixed wings and drones.
Yes it can. You can change the region of the device in the webui or by flashing.
@@JoshuaBardwell Ok, great, thank you! and thank you also for your videos, really nice ones!
@@JoshuaBardwell not legally though, since they don't have CE. The fact that it also does run on 868 doesn't imply it passed any EU requirements. The protocol they use is simply illegal over here.
Please keep in mind that the importer is responsible for providing a valid CE certification. If a consumer imports a non ce product himself within the EU, all legal responsibility and consequences will be for the consumer that did import the product.
It can get you in serious problems.
Hello JB,
That's a bit if a private question and you might have addressed it on a live stream. Can you tell us more about that new tattoo? 😀
Hi, I have a questions. Can I somehow add temperature sensor on radiomaster mt12? Im using elrs receiver
I know this is a little off topic but I just noticed something last night that right after I plug-in a quad to betaflight the 3-D model in the setup screen is very erratic but after it sits still for a few seconds then everything seems to be fine. I've just never noticed this before and I have researched everywhere trying to figure this out.
As always thanks for the awesome content Joshua.
Je n' était pas encore passer a l express lrs.par feignantise ou autre allez savoir...mais la ...avec se système Gemini dual band...je vais passer a ce nouveau système..je trouve que c est une super option...merci de cet vidéo ..et bon vol a tous
..
How do I change my controllers mode from mode 2 to mode 4 I can't find a vid anywhere I want to change it because that's how I learnt in a sim with mode 4
Anyone know, would the Radiomaster Pocket be able to power this module? Can't find any specs for the Pocket to indicate yes/no...thanks!
Product aside you say you don't understand how the Bayck antennas work or are tuned but somehow trust the Radiomaster antennas on the TX module which do the same thing?
I think that's because on the Tx it's using one antenna per band (can use either as they're dual band), and bayck Rx is doing both bands on one antenna at the same time, it's different.
Would this solve the low packet rate on older radios like the QX7 and X9D? Same baud rate for double the packets
is there a pwm servo RX for this system?
Radiomaster makes 900 MHz PWM receivers.
@@JoshuaBardwell I am probably being stupid but I cant find on their site? D you have a link or model#?
Hello mr JB.. yup ...its a me again 🫣😁 an i dea..for a video i would say we need but really.. i need lolb to know all about elrs. And all about it. Packets,hertz .. low, highs bands. maga 1.or 2 points ecttra. Gemini what. Dule somestuff. And. What dose it all mean. How dose it apply? And yes im useing elrs. And i kinda know some reasons why. But i dont understand it. what it dose . Why it works and how to fix it best for me. And my right now question .. lol😅😊
Do i need to update my elrs? I haven't since i set it up. And firm ware means the same thing ? And if you already own the elrs boxer. Would you want or can a elrs module make the radio stronger? Or a norher benefit maby? Sorry.. dumb question s maybe. But i am very clueless when it comes toall the radio protocol.
the dual band antenna's are similar to a fan dipole. there are some trade-offs when using this type of antenna. it wont preform as well as two separate antennas. it can have a higher SWR resulting in poor telemetry or even permanent damage to the receiver or yourself.
Is the 900 legal in uk
It can be set up as 868mhz
May still not be legal as not lbt
@@Meonlymeagainthis product dont have any ce, so i assume it will also not be legal to use within the uk. Within the EU, it's indeed illegal despite the ability to run on 869mhz
Looks like BayckRC is using dual 1/4 wave antennas, each with a single wire for the ground plane, one tuned for 2.4GHz and the other 900Mhz, in a V configuration (>-center conductor, ground-
*half wave
@@ssbailey1981 I guess I should have corrected myself and said 1/4 wave *ground plane*. 1/2 waves typically dont have a "ground" element, and most certainly wouldn't be as compact in size as those in the video were.
Correcting myself again, I'm going to guess you are talking about a center connected 1/2 wave dipole? That could be the configuration in use, since each element on the dipole is only 1/4 wave length, and would match the size pictured in the video.
What about elrs vs Tbs cross fire I’ve found better consistency in cross fire. You should do a video comparing both.
Nice shirt, lol.
I want to do an internal module upgrade on my boxer. No backpack.
i am thinking the low band is due to EU, I believe EU is like 800ish. so low band covers both 800 and 900 depending on region
It's 868 or 915, but everybody just calls it 900.
@Joshua Bardwell BF 4.5 required preset for link for examples 250Hz how it will be work well it this system will be switching for different link parameters?
The packet rate stays the same.
Does anyone know what frame will be able to mount this receiver? Im new to FPV and I just purchased the TX16s JB version and the Nomad module and the DBR4 Dual Band Xross Gemini ExpressLRS Receiver. This might be a dumb question but I just jumped right in. I think i may have complicated or limited my choices on the frame now that i purchased this module .
You can use this module with literally any ELRS receiver. You don't have to use the 4x-antenna receiver. And for most uses, you shouldn't.
Considering i already bought the module , im having trouble on which frame to buy . I’m going with the air unit o3 so that takes up the 20x20 mounting slot on most frames correct ? Also where do the antennas on the drone sit
I want a boxer with large touch screen and this transmitter built in
I have a feeling they’ll be bringing something like that shortly. You know they’ll put the module in new radios plus a lot of people liked the jumper radios touchscreen so you have to think they’ll capitalize on that.
Crossfire people... tempted yet?
Nah, pushing two buttons to bind and not fluffing around still wins the day for me 😂
I still use ELRS on my whoops and Crossfire on everything else. I carry RadioMaster ELRS gear in my shop, and stil
l prefer Crossfire for my daily connection. It's easier to use and more reliable in my tests. Elrs is faster, rapidly evolving, but also more fragmented and complicated as a result.
I am not a TBS fanboy, but I have played quite a bit with those Semtech transcievers and on low fps/higher latency modes on 'low band' great range and penetration can be achieved. That's why I believe Crossfire might have an edge in that area. Though I have never tested ELRS vs Crossfire head to head in demanding conditions.
@@robertgosz4281 respectfully, you're the definition of a fanboi. The community moved on from xfire for a reason.
Hey guess what. ELRS can bind with button press too now. But fluffing around is seen as a feature not a bug.
Hello sir, I know you're busy handling stuffs and maybe quite impossible for you noticing my comment. I really want to have a DJI FPV, can I somehow have what's yours? I know what I ask is too much but, I really want to have one of your DJI FPV's, yes I know I should be buying my own but, since I'm still at highschool, don't know if I can buy my own soon, cause yk, that type of DJI FPV production has officially ended. Hope you'll notice, hoping. Thank you and more blessings to come sir!
omg, I need to stop buying fpv stuff and just fly with what I already have. But probably after this thing.😀
lol thanks I needed a break from her voice hahahahah
exactly!
AWESOME!
Donkey Kong 500 is going to change the ELRS game. I hear it's tested out to 80 gorillian kilometers.
😂
What’s the banana rate of the 500?
12:43 for my future reference and anyone else interested
Very gorillish
Wow I’m first. Sup JB! Dang this module seems dope
I think low bands means 868/915, because it is nit only one frequency....
this is like I want to have my cake and eat it but when I have the cake I dont want to eat it and when I eat it I dont want to have it
too much yakking about irrevelant stuff. not enough stuff about the actual module : what's the precise weight ? what material is it made out of ? If I plug it into my Dji Neo, will it fly faster ?
You had me at the beginning ngl 😂
It’ll triple the speed of your neo 😂
Ok, you just won the internet for today, sir.
maybe this type of video isn't for everyone but for those in the know and with a usecase this stuff is really really exciting.
The shirt 😂😂
Interesting. But still, Crossfire can go as low as 2Hz while @2W on low band, so for long range I bet it's still better.
😂
Major copium.
So much confidence. I wonder if you even checked the LoRa sensitivity chart. 50Hz vs 2Hz makes a bit of a difference. Not to mention twice the power output.
If you're claiming to regularly fly at 2 Hz, let's just say you're not the typical user, at the very least. Who can fly at 2 Hz????
@@JoshuaBardwell No, no. That's not the point. I thought the dynamic Crossfire behaviour allowed going as low as 2Hz. I have checked the current documentation and indeed, there is a mode running between 50Hz and 4Hz with forced telemetry, but it's not the normal mode Crossfire operates on. The 'normal' one is 50Hz LoRa and 150Hz FSK as far as I understand and in this case it won't have any edge over ELRS. Happy flying guys!
Now we need double freq receivers, it will be kick a.s
That exists. It's in this video.
They are huge😢
Donkey Kong obviously
This needs to be built into a "boxer"
I don't understand why you would need this long range, I lose DJI O3 video waaaaay before I failsafe ELRS at 250Hz.
It’s because there are other video systems, that go much longer?
Because my Walksnail system can go up to 50 km
No way more than just 2.4 and 900. That’s just what’s currently active. 😂
Its called low band and not 900 cuz u can program it as lbt in the 800 range.....low band
Both 868 MHz and 915 MHz are common referred to as "900 MHz."
@JoshuaBardwell analysis of the semtech 1121 datasheet......the transceiver can do 150mhz to 960.....or 2.4
Im wrong about the 800 part. Low band is an accurate description of the transceiver capability
That's actually really interesting. I wonder how far out of band the front end can handle. Like I'm sure something like 150mhz would probably burn up the amplifier with high swr.....but this chipset opens some doors for those of us who tinker
The problem though is not the radio signal but video signal.
That's only true because the radio signal has gotten so good. And it's not universally true.
it say's "low band" because in EU is 868mhz not 900mhz..
"900 MHz" refers to the 868 and 915 MHz bands together. It always has.
@@JoshuaBardwell ok!
I just want the best radio in the world FINALLY FINALLY.....THE JUMPER T15......blue....with a 4in1 module plane and jets and of course quads!!!! Here I come FINALLY the quad gods have heard my prayers 🙏🏼
You lost your believability when you mentioned 4in1
For what it’s worth, I think it might be pronounced “basic RC”.