Спасибо за игру и комментарий под моим видео!) Встретила соперника с антиспином справа и короткими шипами слева... Очень не удобный соперник для моего антиспина слева... Сейчас подстроилась под него и зажимаю его влево, так как он почти все мячи атакует антиспином справа и длинные, и короткие. Хочу научиться так же атаковать антиспином справа, чтобы во время твидлинга справа была так же атакующая сторона. Так как я стараюсь антиспином атаковать, многие начинают мне подавать и играть коротко на право, а там пассивный прием или приходиться заходить левой стороной... Скидка не всегда проходит. А, этот соперник просто поднимает антиспином все мячи на атаку. У него не высокий уровень любителя, но игра справа меня просто поражает. Хочу его записать.) Если получится, добавлю в свою папку "Н/т. Мой архив". Заходите в гости.)
Table Tennis is about having fun and getting good exercise--however if your goal is to be a top player--using anti spin or long pips out will never get you to the highest level. The top lever players create a strong offensive shot from backhand or forehand. Using anti-spin or long pips out inhibits one's ability to play the strong offensive game necessary to be a top level player. I am not a top level player--I use anti spin and I get a lot of enjoyment from the game---but when I come across a strong shake hand player say 2400---They just keep pounding my blocks until one goes through. They win the match--there are some nice points and I do win some nice long rallies---but in the end I don't win the match. Top level players adjust to the speed and spin variations --where intermediate players are thrown off course.
Your opponent would make a good loop then not understand why his next ball went into the net. When playing against frictionless anti,loop then push the next or just flat hit everything.
hello Andrea, very good video and skills. it's really weird table tennis championship difference between 2 countries. in France, the referree does not have to intervene, support, talking, making moves or anything else. it's not fair. how come this could be authorized in Italy. if he was in France, player or the "official commissioner" responsible of the match, claims to stop immediately
Hi David! This year, with the covid situation, we have never had an official referee at my league level. I understand that it's not "professional" but we all know each other and we are close friends, so no one complains. ;)
I love your playing style! I am considering switching to antispin on my backhand, but I am a little scared that I will not reach my current level with it. I am not exactly a beginner and would not want to play in very low leagues because I don't have a good antispin technique. Did you start playing anti spin when you were very young and with a coach who knew how to play with it? Do you think it is possible to get a good technique without someone looking over it? Anyway great videos keep it going!
Hi my friend! I want to share with you my journey. In 2015, at the age of 23 (after 7 years as a classic offensive player with 2 inverted rubbers) I finished the season with a personal best ranking. I had no reason to change my style, since my performance was great and I didn't want to ruin my ranking, but i was fascinated by the antispin world and I made the big move. I spent 2 months of training in the summer with a great desire to learn how to play with my new backhand. The start of the new season was a success. I beat a dozen of players better than me and i made a big jump in the ranking list. I never went back, i'm still loving to play with antispin!! No one has ever taught me how to use it. I learned by trying to imitate the most experienced anti players and watching youtube videos. Antispin coaches don't exist! :D Keep follow me, i will do an antispin detailed tutorial in the future! ;)
@@AndreaAschi Thank you a lot for the detailed answer! It is very motivating to hear, that you started when you were already in your twenties, just like me. I am so fascinated with the anti spin rubber and it is one of the greatest feeling to to get a good block on a topspin loaded with spin. Very motivating to hear that you just learned it by a lot of training and watching videos of good anti players. I already had some training sessions with the new rubber and it is really not as bad as i thought, since the forehand attack is my strength anyway and I used a lot of footwork to play forehand shots. Maybe the new style will even make my game more unpredictable. I will keep following you and I am looking forward for the new videos!
Nice! You were fired up this game did you lose to him before or something? Oh btw I have a question. Sometimes you choose to chop block, is there a certain shot you do it vs, is it accidental or is it to vary the game a bit?
Hi Nick! It's the first time i've played against him. It was an important match for the team. ;) I only use the chop block when i'm receiving a slow/medium fast ball with no spin! The wrist movement is necessary in those situations IMHO.
Is Antispin rubber same as Anti-Power rubber? Should there be a certain thickness to use those rubbers?Is the rubber getting dead after some times and need replacement?
I only use anti-spin against long-pips players because my footwork isn't fast enough to constantly defer to my forehand against long pips. Long pips are dirty against inverted rubbers. So, I use anti to "fight fire with fire" so to speak. But, as you can see in this video, a good anti player can beat a good inverted player too. Anti against inverted rubber player is even dirtier than long pips though...lol. Takes all the fun out of being a two winged attacker, "playing anti or long pips that is"...lol
You're a smart person! ;) I should also prepare a second racket with a different setup...against certain player i would play better with 2 inverted rubbers.
Sounds like my Hallmark mirage which is like cardboard. Lol. Nice style similar to mine although I twiddle more possibly. I like chopping on fore and back with anti. I do hit as well which really disrupts the pace of game necessary for when opponents are confident about hitting through the anti.
Interesting. I’ve been eloping at those spinlab sponges but I’m not sure I’d be able to mount the rubber well enough. I’m currently using DM Storkraft which I’m guessing is slower?
@@AndreaAschi But you have to glue the topsheet from Dr. Neubauer ABS and the sponge from Spinlab together, don't you? You can't buy a ABS with a Spinlab sponge? Am I right?
@@andreasweiss8195 Daniele (Spinlabitalia) is also a reseller of Dr Neubauer material. Check out his other website (ttsaturn.com). He can make you have a topsheet and a sponge separated as he did with me. Just contact him! ;)
Ciao e piacere di conoscerti. Nei commenti precedenti, ma anche nelle tue risposte, si descrive il tuo gioco come attaccante convertito all'antispin. Spesso la palla sul dritto non l'attacchi, spesso metti l'antitop a tutto campo per poi attaccare quella dopo, a volte metti l'antitop sul dritto invece di attaccare. Allora qualcosa non torna... Credo ti servirebbe un po' più di chiarezza nell'uso della "gomma" e sulle varianti che ti può apportare.
Ciao Juri piacere mio! Il tuo nome non mi é nuovo. Non sei/sei stato un buon terza cat? Riguardo all'osservazione che mi hai fatto hai ragione. Quelle che hai sottolineato sono abitudini (alcune sviluppate con il passaggio all'anti, prendendo spunto da chi usa queste gomme a livello più alti del mio, alcune dovute a difetti di gioco che mi porto dietro da sempre come non attaccare sempre la palla quando esce) che fanno parte del mio modo di giocare. La verità é che il mio é un livello umile e per forza di cose non sempre faccio la scelta giusta. Continuo a considerarmi una sorta di attaccante perché nonostante il lato del rovescio nullo cerco spesso di aggredire anche quella parte di campo spostandomi. Non mi vedo come un giocatore passivo. Alla fine dei conti non mi é di alcuna utilità avere una definizione chiara del mio gioco. Spesso vado a sentimento. 😉 saluti!
Gran belle gambe e top di terza palla o a chiudere. Dovresti però “sporcare” più il gioco di anti soprattutto contro avversari puliti come nel video . Ti consiglio di vedere i video di Ademir Balaban
Ciao! Hai perfettamente inquadrato il mio gioco. Io sono un attaccante convertito all'antitop, quindi tanto diritto/movimento di gambe e anti usata solo di ributto. Balaban é il contrario, praticamente il suo gioco è incentrato sull'antispin. Sono d'accordo con te sul fatto che non sfrutto al 100% il rovescio, in allenamento ogni tanto ci provo ma non risulto efficace. Ci lavorerò di più su! 😉
Si diciamo che mi ci rivedo molto più nello stile di Mladenovic. Lui gioca fantasticamente, come dici tu, di spinte di antitop con il polso a volte profonde e a volte morte sotto rete. Del resto ci saranno solo 10 categorie di differenza dalla mia. 😁 Il giocatore di Anti che più mi fa impazzire é comunque Carlos Arcila Muhlbach. Secondo me il più talentato di tutti. Anche lui purga nomi illustri.
Watching these pipe players driving me crazy. Destroying normal players exp cause they have a bad backhand when using normal and legal rubber. Should be banned at all. Btw: referee 100% longpipes on fore and backhand and unsportmanship at all.
You don't know me, you don't know that my backhand is as "good" as my forehand. I play anti because I have more fun. Who are you to judge? Btw: you're 100% a noob against pimples and antispin
1:11 - referee applauses for the edge ball - highlight 😂
🤣🤣🤣 fair play!! 😂
Спасибо за игру и комментарий под моим видео!)
Встретила соперника с антиспином справа и короткими шипами слева... Очень не удобный соперник для моего антиспина слева...
Сейчас подстроилась под него и зажимаю его влево, так как он почти все мячи атакует антиспином справа и длинные, и короткие.
Хочу научиться так же атаковать антиспином справа, чтобы во время твидлинга справа была так же атакующая сторона.
Так как я стараюсь антиспином атаковать, многие начинают мне подавать и играть коротко на право, а там пассивный прием или приходиться заходить левой стороной... Скидка не всегда проходит.
А, этот соперник просто поднимает антиспином все мячи на атаку. У него не высокий уровень любителя, но игра справа меня просто поражает. Хочу его записать.)
Если получится, добавлю в свою папку "Н/т. Мой архив".
Заходите в гости.)
Table Tennis is about having fun and getting good exercise--however if your goal is to be a top player--using anti spin or long pips out will never get you to the highest level. The top lever players create a strong offensive shot from backhand or forehand. Using anti-spin or long pips out inhibits one's ability to play the strong offensive game necessary to be a top level player. I am not a top level player--I use anti spin and I get a lot of enjoyment from the game---but when I come across a strong shake hand player say 2400---They just keep pounding my blocks until one goes through. They win the match--there are some nice points and I do win some nice long rallies---but in the end I don't win the match. Top level players adjust to the speed and spin variations --where intermediate players are thrown off course.
Do you recall Ruwen Filus?
Your opponent would make a good loop then not understand why his next ball went into the net. When playing against frictionless anti,loop then push the next or just flat hit everything.
Peter do not reveal the secrets!! 😜😂
hello Andrea, very good video and skills. it's really weird table tennis championship difference between 2 countries. in France, the referree does not have to intervene, support, talking, making moves or anything else. it's not fair. how come this could be authorized in Italy. if he was in France, player or the "official commissioner" responsible of the match, claims to stop immediately
Hi David!
This year, with the covid situation, we have never had an official referee at my league level.
I understand that it's not "professional" but we all know each other and we are close friends, so no one complains. ;)
I really enjoy your videos, nice work!
i really enjoy comments like this! :D
Thank you my friend!!
@@AndreaAschi you're welcome :)
I love your playing style! I am considering switching to antispin on my backhand, but I am a little scared that I will not reach my current level with it. I am not exactly a beginner and would not want to play in very low leagues because I don't have a good antispin technique.
Did you start playing anti spin when you were very young and with a coach who knew how to play with it? Do you think it is possible to get a good technique without someone looking over it? Anyway great videos keep it going!
Hi my friend! I want to share with you my journey.
In 2015, at the age of 23 (after 7 years as a classic offensive player with 2 inverted rubbers) I finished the season with a personal best ranking.
I had no reason to change my style, since my performance was great and I didn't want to ruin my ranking, but i was fascinated by the antispin world and I made the big move.
I spent 2 months of training in the summer with a great desire to learn how to play with my new backhand.
The start of the new season was a success. I beat a dozen of players better than me and i made a big jump in the ranking list.
I never went back, i'm still loving to play with antispin!!
No one has ever taught me how to use it. I learned by trying to imitate the most experienced anti players and watching youtube videos. Antispin coaches don't exist! :D
Keep follow me, i will do an antispin detailed tutorial in the future! ;)
@@AndreaAschi Thank you a lot for the detailed answer! It is very motivating to hear, that you started when you were already in your twenties, just like me.
I am so fascinated with the anti spin rubber and it is one of the greatest feeling to to get a good block on a topspin loaded with spin.
Very motivating to hear that you just learned it by a lot of training and watching videos of good anti players. I already had some training sessions with the new rubber and it is really not as bad as i thought, since the forehand attack is my strength anyway and I used a lot of footwork to play forehand shots. Maybe the new style will even make my game more unpredictable. I will keep following you and I am looking forward for the new videos!
An anti spin player with very spiny loops. Nice
🙂😊
Mantappp kerenn
There is a special place in hell for those who play with antispin and pips rubbers
I will be one of the first to go there if it exists 😁
😆
Nice! You were fired up this game did you lose to him before or something? Oh btw I have a question. Sometimes you choose to chop block, is there a certain shot you do it vs, is it accidental or is it to vary the game a bit?
Hi Nick!
It's the first time i've played against him. It was an important match for the team. ;)
I only use the chop block when i'm receiving a slow/medium fast ball with no spin! The wrist movement is necessary in those situations IMHO.
Coach. I have problem about how to face antispin. 🙏
Is Antispin rubber same as Anti-Power rubber?
Should there be a certain thickness to use those rubbers?Is the rubber getting dead after some times and need replacement?
No, it's a different rubber than Anti-Power because the surface has no friction.
Sponge thickness depends on how fast is your blade.
What kind of anti spin rubber do you use, if you don’t mind .
It's a frictionless anti-spin, suitable for a close to the table playstyle. (Dr. Neubauer ABS)
Can you tell us, what kind/type is your blade for this match?
I play with Stiga Carbonado 190, OFF+ blade
I only use anti-spin against long-pips players because my footwork isn't fast enough to constantly defer to my forehand against long pips. Long pips are dirty against inverted rubbers. So, I use anti to "fight fire with fire" so to speak. But, as you can see in this video, a good anti player can beat a good inverted player too. Anti against inverted rubber player is even dirtier than long pips though...lol. Takes all the fun out of being a two winged attacker, "playing anti or long pips that is"...lol
You're a smart person! ;)
I should also prepare a second racket with a different setup...against certain player i would play better with 2 inverted rubbers.
good game ;> where are you from Andrea Aschi?
Hi!
I'm from Turin, Italy!
Sounds like my Hallmark mirage which is like cardboard. Lol. Nice style similar to mine although I twiddle more possibly. I like chopping on fore and back with anti. I do hit as well which really disrupts the pace of game necessary for when opponents are confident about hitting through the anti.
Yes Hallmark Mirage is very similar, maybe even harder!! 😆
What thickness are you using on your Dr. Neubauer ABS
I'm using a custom sponge...the pink 2.3mm from Spinlab.
You can find it at Spinlabitalia. com
Interesting. I’ve been eloping at those spinlab sponges but I’m not sure I’d be able to mount the rubber well enough. I’m currently using DM Storkraft which I’m guessing is slower?
@@AndreaAschi But you have to glue the topsheet from Dr. Neubauer ABS and the sponge from Spinlab together, don't you? You can't buy a ABS with a Spinlab sponge? Am I right?
@@andreasweiss8195 Daniele (Spinlabitalia) is also a reseller of Dr Neubauer material. Check out his other website (ttsaturn.com).
He can make you have a topsheet and a sponge separated as he did with me. Just contact him! ;)
@@richgoodhand5939 Yes Storkraft is slower because of the red sponge
Ciao e piacere di conoscerti. Nei commenti precedenti, ma anche nelle tue risposte, si descrive il tuo gioco come attaccante convertito all'antispin. Spesso la palla sul dritto non l'attacchi, spesso metti l'antitop a tutto campo per poi attaccare quella dopo, a volte metti l'antitop sul dritto invece di attaccare. Allora qualcosa non torna... Credo ti servirebbe un po' più di chiarezza nell'uso della "gomma" e sulle varianti che ti può apportare.
Ciao Juri piacere mio! Il tuo nome non mi é nuovo. Non sei/sei stato un buon terza cat?
Riguardo all'osservazione che mi hai fatto hai ragione. Quelle che hai sottolineato sono abitudini (alcune sviluppate con il passaggio all'anti, prendendo spunto da chi usa queste gomme a livello più alti del mio, alcune dovute a difetti di gioco che mi porto dietro da sempre come non attaccare sempre la palla quando esce) che fanno parte del mio modo di giocare. La verità é che il mio é un livello umile e per forza di cose non sempre faccio la scelta giusta.
Continuo a considerarmi una sorta di attaccante perché nonostante il lato del rovescio nullo cerco spesso di aggredire anche quella parte di campo spostandomi. Non mi vedo come un giocatore passivo. Alla fine dei conti non mi é di alcuna utilità avere una definizione chiara del mio gioco. Spesso vado a sentimento. 😉 saluti!
4:09 🤣🤣🤣
Andrea, why don't you use tweedling ?
I twiddled few times in this match...i'm not a crazy "twiddler" 😁
I've never actually played a match against an anti-spin player. There's very few in my area.
we are few players...only for now! 😜
Umpire is also clapping in the match 😂😂
ahahah very professional!! 🤣
We didn't have an official umpire that day. 😉
Hahahaha no worries ...you are from ??
Italy!!
This is not table tennis, you are not incapacitated in order to play with material blades....
🥱
Gran belle gambe e top di terza palla o a chiudere. Dovresti però “sporcare” più il gioco di anti soprattutto contro avversari puliti come nel video . Ti consiglio di vedere i video di Ademir Balaban
Ciao!
Hai perfettamente inquadrato il mio gioco. Io sono un attaccante convertito all'antitop, quindi tanto diritto/movimento di gambe e anti usata solo di ributto.
Balaban é il contrario, praticamente il suo gioco è incentrato sull'antispin.
Sono d'accordo con te sul fatto che non sfrutto al 100% il rovescio, in allenamento ogni tanto ci provo ma non risulto efficace. Ci lavorerò di più su! 😉
@@AndreaAschi potresti assomigliare a luka madlenovic che comunque impesta bene e tira mine di dritto
Si diciamo che mi ci rivedo molto più nello stile di Mladenovic. Lui gioca fantasticamente, come dici tu, di spinte di antitop con il polso a volte profonde e a volte morte sotto rete.
Del resto ci saranno solo 10 categorie di differenza dalla mia. 😁
Il giocatore di Anti che più mi fa impazzire é comunque Carlos Arcila Muhlbach. Secondo me il più talentato di tutti. Anche lui purga nomi illustri.
@@AndreaAschi ha fatto cag4re pietre a Carletto Rossi non troppo tempo fa .
Vero!! Con tanto di bestemmione epico di Carlo a metà partita perché ci stava capendo poco nulla 😂 poi l'altro si é suicidato
Какого х хлопает судья постоянно? На мыло.
相手は粒高かアンチの異質ですか？、フォア面の攻撃は異質でならディグニクス09cが最高だと思っています。何故かみんな使いません
ненавижу антиспинщиков
then you've come to the right place! ;)
This is not a proper referee. He must count neutrally.
Welcome to Italian amateur table tennis! :D
Anti Table tennis
Best comment of the day! 😄
Watching these pipe players driving me crazy. Destroying normal players exp cause they have a bad backhand when using normal and legal rubber. Should be banned at all.
Btw: referee 100% longpipes on fore and backhand and unsportmanship at all.
You don't know me, you don't know that my backhand is as "good" as my forehand. I play anti because I have more fun. Who are you to judge?
Btw: you're 100% a noob against pimples and antispin