Ben Wendel & Bob Reynolds Compare Vintage Selmer Saxophones

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  • @bobreynolds
    @bobreynolds  2 роки тому +1

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  • @wyndhl9465
    @wyndhl9465 6 років тому +69

    Ben Wendel, not unlike Bob Reynolds, is a "Killer" tenor saxophonist in the vein of Michael Brecker, Ernie Watts, Shawn Wallace, Bob Berg [RIP] and Chris Potter...
    Bob Reynolds is so UNselfish - never allowing Ego to promote his excellent virtuosity.
    "Cooperative Learning" is his thing, I am convinced.
    The sound! Ma'aaan, that tenor sound!
    Any dedicated youngster who is trained by either Bob or Ben - - -
    Oh, boy!
    He'll be so lucky.
    Thanks for posting, Bob.

  • @drewinsley7463
    @drewinsley7463 7 років тому +33

    I feel like I've been in this room with the amount of Vlogs I've watched.

  • @legoblox01
    @legoblox01 7 років тому +59

    As a saxophonist, i loved this vlog

  • @echoes675
    @echoes675 7 років тому +45

    Pure hornography!

  • @bobreynolds
    @bobreynolds  7 років тому +52

    Lots of different sounds from the various equipment changes. Something tells me you're gonna have opinions... ;) Just keep in mind the microphones and direction we're playing has some effect on the result you hear. Ben knows his stuff!!

    • @63Baggies
      @63Baggies 7 років тому +5

      Bob Reynolds
      Bob, You were quite right 99.89% went straight over my head, but I just love hearing great players blow.Robert.

    • @hannes4971
      @hannes4971 7 років тому +1

      Your SBA sounds so lively! I really dig it a lot + you sound a lot more "dry" on the Mark VI (which is nice to but I like the jucyness of the SBA a lot!).

    • @oleflogger6828
      @oleflogger6828 7 років тому

      Superb demo you guys!! Can you divulge your setups? I haven't heard (no been able to play) the bottom and such clear altissimo!!#$% I usually play a soft reed - so that kills altissimo, fer shur. When I use a harder reed (3 & up) I lose the bottom end.

    • @kennethjones7924
      @kennethjones7924 7 років тому

      Hey Bob have you tried the reference 54? If so what do you think off them and how close is it to your SBA or Mark VI?

  • @waynematthews8165
    @waynematthews8165 6 років тому +9

    As a bassist I'm intrigued hearing two great saxophonists geek out. A lot of stuff translates!

  • @JazzDuets
    @JazzDuets 7 років тому +25

    Wonderful vid, thanks so much! Any chance you can comment more about placing the mouthpiece further in than the actual tuning? cheers!

    • @jmalatesta
      @jmalatesta 4 роки тому +1

      Would love to know more about this..!

    • @alecreyes6202
      @alecreyes6202 4 роки тому +1

      i think he does it to stay loose, it forces him to loosen up his embochure

  • @billiongenius
    @billiongenius 7 років тому +5

    Two of my favorite sax players. It’s like when superhero worlds converge and you realize they’re all part of the same superhero universe: Batman + Superman!
    I love this - I wish more jazz musicians would collaborate on creating and educating. Awesome insights when you get experts in a room together. Thanks!

  • @gfarrellmusic1
    @gfarrellmusic1 6 років тому +3

    I'm a sax player from Australia and have recently discovered your videos. Very inspiring, thanks so much!

  • @UkuleleAversion
    @UkuleleAversion 4 роки тому +2

    I recognise Ben as soon as he plays a note. I love his sound so much! And he is a distinctive soloist too!

  • @saxsounds_
    @saxsounds_ 7 років тому +8

    I could watch this for hours. Just post the raw tape and let us binge.

  • @HoustonSax
    @HoustonSax 7 років тому +12

    Two absurdly great players!!!

  • @KevinBene
    @KevinBene 7 років тому +2

    Yeeeeess, I especially love when Ben sounds just like Ben on any equipment lol.

  • @yoyo101978
    @yoyo101978 7 років тому +2

    Really enjoyed this vlog! It was like being at Berklee all over again in the #150 practice rooms with all the sounds!! Great vlog!

  • @Stopanimtz
    @Stopanimtz 6 років тому +2

    One of my favourite episodes of the vlog just keep coming back love it! its getting to the point that i can remember when you an ben play certain phrases Haha

  • @justinbertrand1431
    @justinbertrand1431 7 років тому +14

    "yeah in addicted to that, I was thinking of sending that to Josh because he doesn't have one..." 2:19
    Josh as in Joshua Redman?

  • @johnswendseid4278
    @johnswendseid4278 7 років тому +3

    Hey Bob, this is John Swendseid you might remember me from attending the Retreat a few times. Not that my opinion matters a whole lot, but I think you sound better on the Mark VI. You certainly have a very nice SBA, hearing the quite dramatic difference between Ben's and yours I can see why you are drawn to it. The Mark VI is just the sound I personally identify you with. As soon as I hear a note, my mind relaxes and it's like "yeah... that's Bob." I feel as though the VI lets you build your own color palette to work with, while the SBA almost gives you the whole rainbow at once. Just my 10 cents, I still want to hear you play on a metal mouthpiece :) Hope you're doing awesome man!

  • @SkylersRants
    @SkylersRants 4 роки тому

    That was really interesting. Thanks for sharing that session.

  • @johnparrette8069
    @johnparrette8069 4 роки тому +2

    I’ve always loved the warmth and darkness of the Mark Vl family.

  • @rizaldicakrakusumah9163
    @rizaldicakrakusumah9163 5 років тому +1

    Really enjoyed this vlog. Please do more like this in the future!

  • @hendrikviljoen3183
    @hendrikviljoen3183 7 років тому

    It's so cool to hear the difference in these two players' sounds. When Ben talks about the flat range of the Mark VI (from octave G up), that says a lot about his approach with throat settings and where his tongue is. Also he has that sweet high F key extension bump, I knew it!

  • @bcmsax
    @bcmsax 7 років тому +12

    Loved the "edge" that Ben was getting with your SBA palm keys Bob. Man they really do sing! I never wanted the vlog to end haha! #saxnerd

    • @DangFee78
      @DangFee78 7 років тому +1

      Same, it sounded great! Lots of edge

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues1158 6 років тому +1

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    that can give personal choice . But it is a great adventure!!!

  • @LordHar
    @LordHar 7 років тому +11

    I'm not a sax player but I can watch this all day

  • @johnparrette8069
    @johnparrette8069 4 роки тому +2

    Nice to hear the philosophy of jazz theory from a thinking/feeling musician.

  • @fredfredburger383
    @fredfredburger383 7 років тому +2

    I met Ben at my school, Western Oregon University! Super down to earth guy. He put on an amazing show, it got me super inspired.

  • @jrl5874
    @jrl5874 6 років тому

    This video gave me the motivation to try out some KB necks for my Mark VI. They're awesome!

  • @larsvanleeuwen8491
    @larsvanleeuwen8491 7 років тому +1

    I can't get enough of this saxonerdy stuff man

  • @thisvinyl7151
    @thisvinyl7151 7 років тому +4

    Great video Bob. Your channel has really been inspiring, and I have learned so much! Thanks!

  • @jaysax90
    @jaysax90 7 років тому +1

    Sounds like you've been playing the SBA a lot more lately. You're beginning to sound more like "yourself" (how I'm used to hearing you on the VI). Sounds great! This video was a real treat!
    Also, great job on Hindsight! Really enjoying the record! Can't wait to hear the last record with Ruslan, Janek, and Chaun!

  • @Bebopopotamus
    @Bebopopotamus 7 років тому +4

    Ben Wendel is my Elvis. Please do more with him. I love listening to him. I want his tone and technique.

    • @hannes4971
      @hannes4971 7 років тому

      +1 saw him during a workshop week, his sound is phenomenal. his powerful mids and evenness in all ranges remind me of a steinway grand haha :D

  • @pleximanic
    @pleximanic 6 років тому +1

    As a musician "mostly using the guitar", i really liked this vlog

  • @MichaelJohnsonMDJ
    @MichaelJohnsonMDJ 7 років тому +7

    Anyone know what "cheat" equipment Ben has on his horn?

  • @gunnargidnerjazz
    @gunnargidnerjazz 6 років тому +1

    Brightened my day!

  • @danielryanmusic
    @danielryanmusic 7 років тому +3

    What's amazing is that Ben picked up an Otto 9* and still sounds like him. Its not about the gear alone for really!. Bob, did you feel/ hear a major difference between the neck(s ) (kb )?

    • @MarcKellerSax
      @MarcKellerSax 7 років тому +4

      It's almost not about gear at all. However, his reaction was interesting. He sounds the same way, but it certainly feels different for him to produce 'his' sound. So gear doesn't produce our sound, but it rather influences how easily we can produce it.

  • @bobgreen1236
    @bobgreen1236 4 роки тому +1

    Ben: I don't even know how people do this.....proceeds to rip some INCREDIBLE stuff.....both you guys are AMAZING players!!

  • @hannes4971
    @hannes4971 7 років тому +4

    Oh my god, Bob, I waited for this vlog like people wait for new episodes of Game of Thrones, honestly, it's ridiculous.
    Actually, I want to buy a Mark VI or SBA soon and just recently read about Ben getting his together with Joshua Redman. Seeing Ben on a Mark VI and your setup + the STM was cool too. I actually was searching the oldest YT videos of Ben to see how he sounds on a VI (there are some old Kneebody videos).
    I have some questions, maybe you have a second to answer?
    1) What did you guys think about the VI after all? How does Ben like VIs actually?
    2) How did you like the KB sax neck on the VI? Did it make a difference for you? I actually really liked your sound that combination a lot!
    3) Could you briefly say what are your main points to look at when checking an SBA? Did you get yours alone or would you always take someone experienced with you to test some?
    What a great time to be a sax nerd, seeing 2 truely great players geeking around. Thanks for making this video!

  • @alexambroise111
    @alexambroise111 4 роки тому +3

    I'll reiterate more than a year later, 'cause man Bob you sound amazing on this setup: MkVI + the KB neck is - like Gordon Ramsay would say - the dogs balls!!

  • @TheUnorthodoxGears
    @TheUnorthodoxGears 6 років тому +4

    16:00 Was this some funky take on Donna Lee?! :O

  • @NathanSMadsen
    @NathanSMadsen 6 років тому +2

    Man, I need to practice more.

  • @jeffainsley6000
    @jeffainsley6000 5 років тому +2

    As a guitar player, I find this video comparing saxophones fascinating!!! This is the same thing that we do! The Guitar Band album is stunning, btw.

  • @studbagl
    @studbagl 7 років тому +6

    You could hear very shuttle difference in Ben's tone on Bob's rubber mouthpiece but I actually laughed out loud when he played the metal one haha. They're so fucking good at saxophone!

  • @masapell
    @masapell 7 років тому +2

    Very interesting indeed! I am a weekend church sax player and have noticed over the years some of the same things mentioned here, but never knew how to put words to it. I have a 1960 Buffet Super Dynaction alto and it has different tonalities through the register of the horn. My early 1980's Selmer USA "Omega" tenor is more even around the horn. It would be fun to experiment like that just to see how the feel changes.

    • @aaronmoseley321
      @aaronmoseley321 7 років тому

      masapell Hey man, I'm trying to get into playing with my church praise band on alto. Do you play lead stuff or background? I'm looking to just play background stuff but wonder how to fit it in with the group which is mainly guitar, bass, piano, drums, synth and vocals. Any advice?

    • @masapell
      @masapell 7 років тому

      Aaron Moseley I am a supporter of the "less is more" approach. I am there to add color to the songs. So, since most of the songs (maybe all of the songs!) do not have a saxophone, I try to pick interesting parts that may or may not be covered by the band (assuming you are not doing originals). So maybe a keyboard/synth lick, or doubling a guitar lick, always keeping in mind the space of other players. Also, also tend to do vocal lines, either lead or harmony, during chorus and/or build sections. Sometimes I insert myself in the places of space between vocals, such as verses, always trying to remain aware of the "feeling" or "mood" of the song. I mostly don't do anything flashy or technical, as the songs we do usually don't warrant them, but I can, on occasion, use altissimo effectively.
      Last week I played for a friend of mine who is a very talented songwriter/worship pastor and we did "September" by Earth, Wind and Fire. That was a rare moment where I didn't have to guess at what I would be doing!
      Always remember that you are there for His purpose and to lead the congregation. If that means hanging out or grabbing an auxiliary percussion piece or quietly exiting the back of the stage, so be it! After years of doing it and being 47, I have finally found my place in the worship band :)
      Good luck!

    • @aaronmoseley321
      @aaronmoseley321 7 років тому

      masapell thanks a lot for the info! Do you have any worship bands you listen to that have saxophone in it on a regular or semi-regular basis?

    • @masapell
      @masapell 7 років тому

      Aaron Moseley - I have not really heard anything in the ones that we play. We do a lot of Hillsong, Kari Jobe, Phil Wickham, etc.. I have not run across any horn parts. More saxophone in gospel, it seems. But, I think that is what makes my job in the band unique. I get to create what isn't there. I get lots of compliments all the time, many from the older generation who grew up with the saxophone in contemporary music and the occasional kid in high school band. I am not, however, at any stellar level and no where near Bob's level. But, I must be doing something right in the "less is more" approach, as I have been asked to play with some stellar musicians before and I am a weekend warrior who didn't "get it" until much later in life.
      Since I grew up in the 70's and 80's, I have a great perspective on the rock/love song sax solos. David Sanborn, Michael Brecker, Pete Christlieb, Tom Scott, etc.. Just Google sax solos of the 80's and you will get where I am coming from. That is what I do in church. It's what my ear hears :)

  • @alhomicz5644
    @alhomicz5644 7 років тому +10

    Watching this I think about the 2 horns I love to death, but kills me knowing I prefer one just that bit more. Bob, you sound great on both...but it’s the VI all day long.

  • @joeretired4552
    @joeretired4552 4 роки тому

    Late to the video - but could you either/both identify the mouthpiece and reed each is playing? Thanks

  • @djjohnnymedley9919
    @djjohnnymedley9919 7 років тому +1

    That was an awesome video. It would be interesting to have a legendary sax tech weigh in on this. Could the SBA be tweaked for more evenness? Could it be a setup issue? You guys both sound phenomenal and have me running to the 'shed. Groove on!!!

    • @marktyler3381
      @marktyler3381 7 років тому

      Check out SHwoodwind, Steve really knows how saxophones work.

    • @djjohnnymedley9919
      @djjohnnymedley9919 7 років тому

      Thanks for the info, Matthew. Will definitely check it out!

    • @saxofonistacr
      @saxofonistacr 6 років тому

      I think this guys have their horns setup by top pros

  • @michaeldean9338
    @michaeldean9338 7 років тому

    Both these cats have some serious chops! I hope to get half a tone like theirs once start back up. Great vids. Thanks for this :)

  • @tpark89
    @tpark89 7 років тому

    Thank you for the video Bob! Illuminating video on both models. I like the Mark VI altos but tenors seem too scuzzy for my own liking. SBA sounds great, though.

  • @eswinchester
    @eswinchester 7 років тому +1

    One of my favorite vlogs of yours.

  • @yuqiin3149
    @yuqiin3149 4 роки тому +3

    4:48 wow

  • @maynardewm
    @maynardewm 2 роки тому

    So interesting, on Bobs SBA, it almost doesn’t even sound like Ben. I’m so used to the softer high end in his playing rather than the “sizzle”. I figured that was just his style and not the horn.

  • @leonardsrobert
    @leonardsrobert 7 років тому +3

    I'm not a horn player, but it's always good to know more about an instrument that you don't play.

  • @MrFunxy
    @MrFunxy 7 років тому +6

    Ben's favourite shirt without a doubt :p

  • @BloodBrotherenGames
    @BloodBrotherenGames 7 років тому +1

    This is what we are here for

  • @andrewglanville
    @andrewglanville 7 років тому +7

    Ben sounds like Ben even when playing your setup! Shit. I guess I'm going to have to practice!!

  • @cesarjose9018
    @cesarjose9018 6 років тому +2

    I have to lend you my Jupiter JTS 587-585 to enjoy the sound ;)

  • @egassi1027
    @egassi1027 4 роки тому +1

    What is Bens mpc and Reed on tenor

    • @c.mccool1123
      @c.mccool1123 3 роки тому

      Morgan Jazz .116 w/ #2 reed I’m pretty sure.

    • @hannesrossler5480
      @hannesrossler5480 2 роки тому

      I think this is still on his Reso and he played Rico Jazz Select 3M I think at the time.

  • @mslourenco100
    @mslourenco100 6 років тому

    Hi Bob! How do you creat your movies???? Camara? Microphones? Phone? Etc etc...Thanks? The best way to capture the sound and image in this type of videos (saxophonists)

  • @kristianvogel10
    @kristianvogel10 6 років тому +2

    This video was up when I opened my internet and then all of a sudden fifteen minutes passed.... What? (P.S. What do you think about the "K.B. Necks"?)

  • @joephillips262
    @joephillips262 7 років тому +1

    Now if I can only hit those altissimo notes like you guys do on my mark VI tenor, loved the blog

  • @rhamses
    @rhamses 7 років тому +1

    Maaan OMG! My favorite episode by far. At the end it gives you this will to jump from the chair and start playing something. Unfortunately, I don't know how to play, but I'm thinking in change that. About sound goes, I really liked that new neck with the SBA. Did you like it at all?

  • @alonsomiranda2598
    @alonsomiranda2598 7 років тому

    So what is that other horn sitting besides the couch?

    • @CaptainSunFlare
      @CaptainSunFlare 5 років тому

      I'm a year late, but, if you're still curious, it is a Soprano sax. It is pitched an octave up from a tenor.

  • @CDesborough
    @CDesborough 7 років тому

    Excellent!

  • @coin777
    @coin777 3 роки тому +1

    9:54 Mario cart lick ahead of its time

  • @tonhueb
    @tonhueb 7 років тому

    I enjoyed this vlog very much. Also I don't play saxophone. :)

  • @trentperrin5540
    @trentperrin5540 7 років тому

    Who's neck tenon got dented at 14:08?

  • @binzhu1517
    @binzhu1517 7 років тому

    What is Ben's mouthpiece?

    • @ngtamphuong
      @ngtamphuong 5 років тому

      It's an Otto Link Reso Chamber 7*.

  • @SaxandPC
    @SaxandPC 6 років тому +6

    So much butter sound, it's like watching an episode of Paula Deen.

  • @maestrocordeiroII
    @maestrocordeiroII 7 років тому +7

    Yeahhhhhh! Good sax players! GOD Bless!

  • @tschupa
    @tschupa 6 років тому

    Well, since each Steinway piano sounds different, I knew only one piano player ( Michelangeli Benedetti, who was a famous Italian piano Player) traveling with two Steinways and choosing the one which did for his ear sound better in the reticular cancer hall. All others had to players, no matter how famous they were/are have to play on whatever piano was there. In y humble opinion I do not see the sense of this tests. Especially that depending the player all instrument are quite in tune and with his colleague much less. Also one of this players does sound. practically the same on all horns, which is not the case for the other. Yes Ben knows his stuff :-)

  • @theguythatdoesthings3480
    @theguythatdoesthings3480 6 років тому

    Whats the song he plays at 10:52

  • @hilgi2003
    @hilgi2003 7 років тому

    Might we may see a KneePuppy or Snarky Body collaboration soon? :-)

  • @joshuakleva
    @joshuakleva 7 років тому

    Great video bob...it's really educating...please can you do a video on altissimo? would really love to get your response soonest...

  • @sonholee5769
    @sonholee5769 7 років тому +2

    man, I could sit through and an hour of this geekage and it would not seem long.
    I have been told that every horn has a different match in mouthpiece.
    Perhaps the SBA has not found what its looking for.
    On the other had, you seem to have missed the curse of looking for the mouthpiece holy grail!
    Sounds like you will be going back to the VI?

  • @nteimoori
    @nteimoori 7 років тому +2

    Boring question alert: saw a video of you soaking rico royal reeds... do you still play those?

  • @MakAttackMusic
    @MakAttackMusic 7 років тому

    Oh man. Hearing the differences between necks is quite astounding and hearing how a modern neck can even out the tonality of a vintage horn is quite remarkable! EARS=BLOWN! :)

  • @theleftymonster
    @theleftymonster 5 років тому +1

    But the real question is that can any of you guys play careless whisper?…see. I got you!

  • @ivanliberatosh
    @ivanliberatosh 7 років тому +2

    14:20 - "ok, we kissed now"

  • @an334
    @an334 7 років тому

    Thanks a lot for sharing!!

  • @kevinkoop3615
    @kevinkoop3615 7 років тому

    Silly question... are you a judoka? It appears you have a nage waza poster on your studio door. If so, yet another reason to like you! PS - Just listened to the Hindsight CD that Sydnee got from you at the Baked Potato... loved it! PPS - I know, #whereisyourpicture?

  • @alonsotorres5001
    @alonsotorres5001 7 років тому +1

    Ben's sound is massive, but Bob's is so clean and smooth. I wonder if bob knows a cat named Sean Reeser. That guys sound is super killin.

  • @jrgreiner
    @jrgreiner 7 років тому +2

    Color me crazy, but the little bit that Ben played on your metal Link.....I thought he sounded great. I think we all know your setup ('piece) Bob, but what is/does Ben play on?
    Ben definitely sounded (and looked) winded playing your rubber Link! He's right.....in the end, it's ALL about what we're used to. Great geek vlog. ;-)

    • @ClarinetGREAT
      @ClarinetGREAT 6 років тому

      Used to be Otto Link Reso Tone. Now it is a Slant 8.

  • @AuthenticatorMonkey
    @AuthenticatorMonkey 7 років тому

    Is it weird for horn players to play each other's instruments? Cause of the whole mouth thing. Asking as a guitarist.

    • @hannes4971
      @hannes4971 7 років тому

      There is no saliva in the sax, only condensate. The mouthpiece is a different thing, that's why you wash it before giving it to someone else.

  • @pawsdude123
    @pawsdude123 7 років тому

    Did you and Ben meet at Berklee?

    • @iJiggsy
      @iJiggsy 6 років тому

      Hogan Records Ben actually went to Eastman.

  • @gerardvandoornmalen1977
    @gerardvandoornmalen1977 7 років тому

    There's no such thing as geeking to long on saxes LOL ;)

  • @classified9668
    @classified9668 2 роки тому +2

    bahb renoldes

  • @leanmchungry4735
    @leanmchungry4735 3 роки тому

    Ben Wendel's tone was fuller and richer on Bob's SBA... no?
    Gratuitous advice for Bob's SBA setup, buy your SBA a Tone Edge EB 9, those things like each other. Babbitt have released a special edition rubber EB, you can order your tip size:9. Do what the anonymous youtube nitwit says...

  • @FunkOsax
    @FunkOsax 3 роки тому +1

    Not long enough!!

  • @phreffable
    @phreffable Рік тому

    I wonder if ‘Trane, Hawk, Getz, etc, ever did something like this. Kind of like watching Golden Gloves candidates debate the merits of being a world champion. Fails to take account of the far superior materials used on older horns.

  • @alexcazet2694
    @alexcazet2694 7 років тому

    THANK YOU

  • @Bulletzation
    @Bulletzation 7 років тому

    What neck is it

  • @scottquickel6462
    @scottquickel6462 4 роки тому

    Bob's SBA seems more vulnerable or emotional...the Mark 6 is more business more in tune, but it looses some temperament or emotion. The player is supposed to be in charege, not really the horn? Mark 6; jack of all trades. BUT sax players like to be sexy, and sometimes the chicks like to see a man's more vulnerable side... for what it's worth, my ear says Bob's SBA is a keeper.)

  • @saxofonistacr
    @saxofonistacr Рік тому

    Ben's SBA wins

  • @KuwaywayLogic
    @KuwaywayLogic 7 років тому

    Um can I have one of those saxophones?? 😂😂😂 I cant afford a professional model yet

  • @babyokes3808
    @babyokes3808 7 років тому

    🎷

  • @ClarinetGREAT
    @ClarinetGREAT 7 років тому +2

    SBA

  • @HansBaier
    @HansBaier 7 років тому

    The current Jazz Sax Players are so retro... Stuck in the last century of saxophone manufacturing.

  • @marktyler3381
    @marktyler3381 Рік тому

    It's time for bed Antartica and Callimari

  • @MrChong-sc2gk
    @MrChong-sc2gk 7 років тому +1

    any told ben he kinda looks like Paul Rudd