It hurts so much how much money they wasted for showing an useless insane woman on a dragon and were able to show an actual warrior on a dragon only twice.
@@SerbAtheist because the audience knew something B&W kinda forgot: how do you not see a fleet from the sky. from a whole season of stupid decisions, this one was probably the second worst (the worst being the whole lack of strategy in the battle of winterfell)
@@SerbAtheist I don't think it's relevant. The autdience can forget parts of the story, and so can the characters. But considering that they fought the Iron Fleet multiple times already AND it was mentioned in their previous war council, it really is a horrible excuse. Does Daenerys have 5 second attention span now? She sure remembers all those titles...
Out of all the buffoonery of s7 and s8 I still catch myself saying every time "why didnt Missandei just grab Cersei and throw them both off the tower?" seemed like such a good moment when Cersei leaned close to her no?? shrug
Yeah I remember that. I thought it was rather silly, to be honest. lol…Ghost obviously would be better off roaming around up North, which he did quite a lot of when Jon was at Castle Black, then in the South. Jon could have petted him goodbye but I wasn’t upset as some where.
@@Victoria-kv9oz If he would petted him, he knew he would not be able to let him go with Tormund. Thats why he decided to not do it, even how hurtful it was to himself and Ghost.
I don't think Tyrion was trying to get his sister to save herself he was trying to get her to save the people of the city. He had to try something because a lot of innocents are going to die if there is a battle.
@cannibalteddy6846 she made an unreasonable tyrant by her own actions. She could act civil with her if not friendly. She raise her voice and concerns in formal and authentic way instead making them look like insult, she could keep the secret as she was asked for by brother/cousin John. The thing is Sansa can try all she want to be a better version of Cersei but she’ll always be Katelyn’s entitled daughter. Cersei at least kept the secrets to herself. Sansa proved she had nothing of Ned in herself.
@Cannibal Teddy What a pile of bullshit you've just written. At that point in the story, Sansa knows nothing about Dany except that she's saved the North with her dragons (one of which was sacrificed) and her armies, and (from Tyrion) that all who follow her love her and are devoted to her. The only negative thing she may know about Dany - again,...at THIS point, in the story - is that she's standing in the way of Jon's legitimate claim to the throne. So where does this magical information that she's an "unreasonable tyrant" come from? Information, by the way, that even the audience didn't know of until they very last episode of the show through the clumsiness of awful writing and character assassination?
According to the director of the episode, Jon didn't have any physical interaction with Ghost, despite Ghost's sad whining at seeing Jon leave, because the production team needed to streamline the filming process. this enrages me.
i love seasons 1to6 , i don't know why some people hate on season 5&6 , i think they are great. season 7 was Not great but still was okay/meh my only problem is with S8
After the Night King was eliminated it felt like everything after was just checking off boxes to end the series. I almost wish they would have pulled a Sopranos and just faded to black with Arya swooping in on the Night King and left it open ended… I mean we would have raged but in retrospect it might have been better than the collective letdown of the rushed ending
I think at this rate the most shocking and best ending would be to actually let Night King win (at least enough for a time for him to conquer King’s Landing at least).
I agree with you. Bar the incest factor…I would have preferred Dany & Jon to be married and rule together and yes…she wouldn’t have bended him to her will…Jon was the only one where Dany made so much sacrifices for…people would disagree as is their right…but my opinion is with yours Sofie
Oh yea, the way the characters were acting Jon absolutely would have straightened Danny out, and it's not like she needed a lot of work to make into a great honorable Queen, even with the random spat of genocide at the end. And it's like like executing traitors, the only icky thing Danny ever did until nearly the end, wasn't something Jon supported anyway. In the books the setup is much more believable, since, you know, it's actually written by an author, not children.
The last two seasons were written with David Benioff and D. B. Weiss looking for a quick exit since they were approached by LucasFilm to direct Star Wars movies. With a lot of the cast getting a little fatigue after 6 seasons of pretty arduous filming, the producers wanted to wrap of GoT fast and get out. They didn't have any more source material to reference so they basically and recklessly started trying to rush toward a conclusion. A lot of plots and characters were rushed or destroyed in the name of brevity. GRR Martin, having been out guessed by most of the internet, had little to offer in terms of creative ideas beyond the books. David Benioff and D. B. Weiss didn't care anymore and basically pulled the ripcord and flipped off the fans as they believed they were laughing their way to the LucasFilm bank. Their handling and fumbling of the last 2 seasons made LucasFilm reassess their desire to hand some Star Wars to them and then pulled their offer, leaving the two producers with a very damaged reputation.
The Jaime-Cersei-relationship is like an addiction. You know it's bad for you but you are drawn to it nonetheless. Cersei is the "drug" Jaime can"t resist.
Man. This episode is like a kick in the teeth. It almost feels disrespectful to the audience, characters, actors, crew… I can’t even imagine how the actors felt when they realized this truly was how the final season was going to be.
Another great reaction, SoFie, despite an episode that is remarkably difficult to fathom. There are lots of "why did they's" in this one. Thanks for soldiering on! You're a trooper!
@@ramonacosta2647 BS. Daenerys character arc showed glimpses of what will come very early on. The most viewers just turned a blind eye on that because they worshipped Daenerys so much, that they were unable to see through it.
@@heiko3169nobody said that Dany’s arc wasn’t leading this way. It’s simply the way it’s executed is the problem. Literally every character in last season are acting like stoic version of themselves.
@@heiko3169 Dany's character arc would have made sense if the show was allowed to go on longer. I agree that the trajectory had already been set, but it was greatly accelerated because D&D wanted to cut the show short. Other character arcs were just travesties, like Jaime, Viserys, Littlefinger, and Tyrion. Not nearly a complete list.
I really dislike this episode. After the Winterfell scene at the start, there's something not quite right with all the characters. Like they're all just moving the plot forward instead of being characters. Also dislike how it's setup as Dany loses one dragon against the Night King and then a battle and then loses one against Cersei, etc.
the writers kinda forgot that dany's whole motivation and personality in the books is all about home and family. "House Targaryen will end with me. That made her sad. “You must be my children,” she told the dragons, “my three fierce children. Barristan says dragons live longer than men, so you will go on after I am dead.” "All Daenerys wanted back was the big house with the red door, the lemon tree outside her window, the childhood she had never known." "i would give up my crown if he [Daario] asked it of me, dany thought... but he had not asked it, and never would." “I was alone for a long time, Jorah. All alone but for my brother. I was such a small scared thing. Viserys should have protected me, but instead he hurt me and scared me worse. He shouldn’t have done that. He wasn’t just my brother, he was my king" "Viserys was cruel and weak and frightened, yet he was my brother still. His dragon will do what he could not." "Viserys had been stupid and vicious, she had come to realize, yet sometimes she missed him all the same. Not the cruel weak man he had become by the end, but the brother who had sometimes let her creep into his bed, the boy who told her tales of the Seven Kingdoms." "No one will be left to die. You are all my people.” Her dreams of home and love had blinded her. “I will not abandon Meereen to the fate of Astapor. It grieves me to say so, but Westeros must wait.” "i was tired, jorah. i was weary of war. I wanted to rest, to laugh, to plant trees and see them grow, i am only a young girl". "I am going to take you home one day, Missandei [...] Say the word, my sweet, and I will send you from this awful place. I will find a ship & send you home. To Naath.” “I would sooner stay with you. On Naath I’d be afraid. I feel safe when I’m with you.” she replied Safe. The word made Dany’s eyes fill up with tears. “I want to keep you safe." "what shall we talk?" missandei said "Home. Naath. Butterflies and brothers. Tell me of the things that make you happy, the things that make you giggle, all your sweetest memories."
"House Targaryen will end with me" That means no happy ending winning the throne starting a new dynasty and it certainly doesn't mean she's going to find a man and have children. She's going to die stop deluding yourself!
@@suddenimpulse030 Jon killing Daenerys was foreshadowed like crazy in the book. It's definitely GRRM's ending that part And there's no coincidence half of the fandom believed it would happen several years before it did. It's because the theory held water/it had tons of backing from the show and books alike
I guess you've never known someone in a long term relationship with a narcissist, because his decision to go back to her is one of the most realistic, albeit disappointing, character moments in the episode.
@@TheMonkeyShowOnlinejust stop. It’s possible to free oneself from a narcissistic relationship. Jamie is strong, otherwise he would never have left kingslanding to go north in the first place.
@@Iamsome61 Of course it's possible, but it's certainly not inevitable. Plenty of people go their entire lives never fully escaping it, even if they do manage to temporarily disengage from it. One of the smartest, strongest people I've ever met didn't fully break the link to her narcissistic family until she was 60 years old. There's nothing whatsoever unrealistic or inconsistent with Jamie's decision to go back.
Book spoiler... if it makes you feel better, Jamie is pretty much done with Cersei when he goes to take Riverrun. He found out about her cheating with multiple people while he was away in captivity. The most atrocious part of this show, in my opinion, is how Jamie and Cersei died. I like to imagine she suffered under those rocks for hours with a broken body
3:43 Does anyone know how many times this line, or a version of this line is said in season 8? 19:38 😂😂😂 Also, "Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet". 21:14 So was everybody else. 23:23 Yeah, that's some bullsh*t. 25:00 #characterregression 27:50 Translation: 'Burn them all'
Not just you Sofie, but literally everyone wont to know the starks reaction to Jon truth but sadly that never come true😖. And true Ned must be rolling in his grave the secret he kept for 17years until he died just spread everywhere like wildfire.
@cannibalteddy6846 Exactly. Ned kept it a secret because Jon's life was in danger if Robert ever found out. There's no reason to keep it a secret anymore.
Indeed and even if there’s ‘no need’ to keep the secret episode because Robert is dead doesn’t mean John’s life wouldn’t be threatened because he’s the last male descendant of previous dynasty. Let’s just say if Dany’s wasn’t in picture then also if the Jon’s secret was revealed, the next king Joffrey would have him killed in fear of possible rebellion. Let’s face is most of Ned’s family members are emotional fulls, there was no way he was taking chance in telling this secret to any family member. Let’s look at Sansa for example, didn’t even take her a day to conspire against Dany by using Jon’s heritage when he pleaded them not to tell anyone.
The fact that Jon never said goodbye to ghost really frustrated me. Really shows how bad the script was for this season. There’s a lot of things that don’t make sense
Halfway through this episode is when I officially stop watching reactions to this show. So I'll say here that Sofie is my all time favorite solo reactor to this series. Perfect blend of humor, analysis, and predictions.
The whole character arch and character development of Jaime was destroyed in a single episode. I don`t even know what plot twist is worse - Jaime returning to Cersei and leaving Brienne or the way two Stark girls tricked the most brilliant trickster and puppeteer of all Seven Kingdoms, Petyr Baelish. The most stupid decisions to close these characters` plotlines. I`ll never forgive D&D for Jaime and Littlefinger. And for Jon. Poor guy was robbed of everything. He should have killed the Night King.
The same person who wrote the rest of Season 8, containing scenes getting cut off when the dialogue gets interesting, e.g. when Sansa asks Dany “what about the North?” or when Jon tells Dany about his Targaryen heritage
@@rakdar1714 because they couldn’t write back-and-forth dialogue they were only good for one liners They would come up with a witty line and have no rebuttal for it
Sofie : ''I'm glad Rhaegal is OK. I really thought we were gonna lose another...'' Us : "Oooof!! That's the most Summer Child-iest thing to ever Summer in these Summer (Child) Isles in all of Summerville.
I was so heartbroken for Brienne. Jamie’s speech when he left her is so poorly written. If what he said was really true, he would have never left Cerci to ride north in the first place. It would have been much more realistic and in keeping with his character arc if he had said something like “I can’t let my sister die alone.”
i cant stand Sam, breaks all his oaths to the nights watch and nothing ever happens to him, meanwhile one of the first scenes we see is a guy running after seeing a white walker and that guy is executed
Daenerys flies all over Dragonstone. How could she not see an armada of enemy ships below her?🤨 18:42 ERROR Robert's rebellion didn't start just because of Lyanna's "kidnapping", the rebellion was inevitable when Aerys executed Ned's brother and father, not content with that Aerys demanded Robert and Ned's heads when they had done nothing, at the time it was fight or die. It makes me angry that in this episode they say that Robert's rebellion was a mistake and that it was only based on Lyanna. Rather, Robert's rebellion ended the mad king's tyranny and allowed a period of temporary peace. What did Tyrion expect Robert to do? stand by and accept having his head lopped off simply because Aerys wanted him dead?
Well, a lot of that blame could be placed squarely on Varys's shoulders? Supposedly, he is the person who whispered into Aerys's ear that the Tourney at Harrenhall (held by the Whents, good friends of Rhaegar) was a cover for a meeting between Rhaegar and all the major lords to plan to remove Aerys with as little bloodshed as possible and place Rhaegar on the Throne. In his growing paranoia, Aerys hadn't left the Red Keep in years...but he came to the Tourney to make sure no such meetings could take place.
The Bronn storyline was so unnecessary. Felt like they didn't know what to do with the character since he didn't participate in the Battle of Winterfell and cause they had to pay the actor anyways they came up we the stupidest of plotlines since the "Dorne adventure" he had with Jamie.
25:20-25:30.I thought it's obvious.Jaime sees Cersei as a punishment for all the bad things he have done.He thinks he doesn't deserve to be saved,to live happy life far away from Cersei,and her toxic influence.Besides, situation becomes more difficult,if to remember,that he,and Cersei are twins,twins always have some very special mental,and spiritual bond with each other.
At least the next episode is going to make sense to her, unlike for so many others who can't see what has been happening to Daenerys over the last few episodes.
so true. Thank you for lighten the dark of all those haters in the comments, who where just to dumb and/or turned a blind eye on the early signs of Daenerys inner demons. This (whats coming) is by far NOT out of nothing ...
@@heiko3169 It makes a lot of sense with where we left Dany at the end of Book 5. But I still think the writing was absolute shit for the last few seasons of GoT.
Honestly, these reactions are even hard to watch. Not your fault Sofie, just still disappointed in how sharply the quality of this show nose dived. I remember rewatching the show between seasons for years in anticipation of how it would turn out. I've never rewatched a single episode since season 8. It wasn't a conscious choice. I'm not boycotting GOT. I just lost all interest (despite continuing to read the books). If HOTD hadn't been so on point, I'd have probably skipped this reaction series.
Oh it was even worse than I remember. Sure, Cersei, execute your only hostage and lose all the leverage. That's a great reason to look smug... not even book 4 Cersei was that dumb. Lena Headey probably just wanted the paycheck.
"Dany just kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet" The Pirate Cosplay enthusiast shot his scorpians through the rocks taking out a Dragon. Remember how easy that was & how vulnerable the dragons are to that weapon for later remaining episodes.
22:15 She's been a tyrant for a long time. She's just been checked by her advisors. Remember what happened in Mareen when she lopped of the guys head for killing a master. Everyone was against a public beheading. Yet, THE QUEEN knows best XD and they say this crap happened all the sudden. I say you need to watch her more carefully throughout the series.
Ah he'll, the Mad Queen has been around ever since season one. People were just blinded to this fact because of the dragons she had, which coincidentally so did her father when he was named the Mad King.
The mad queen arc was indeed out of nowhere. Dany had flaws; yes, because she saw world in B&W aspect but she still learned from her mistakes. She didn’t punish someone for no reason unlike the mad king. If they really wanted to go for Mad Queen arc with her then they could made more subtle points in her decisions or at build it up well by extending the series to 10-11 seasons instead but nope the makers wanted to wrap it up fast so they could follow up Star Wars projects (another poorly written trilogy).
might be true but still the execution, the pacing, the plot was so damn poor these last 2 seasons. Maybe our perception will change if somehow Dumb and Dumb agrees to GRRM's suggestion to wrap up the show for 10 seasons instead
Jaime & Cersei #GameofThrones | Lannisters | Young & Beautiful ♪ ua-cam.com/video/RDou03Xd78c/v-deo.html In another world Brianne would have been perfect for Jaime but he was from birth connected to Cersei BORN & DIE TOGETHER! My comments - JAIME & CERSEI have real life logical reasons to have ended up in a sexual relationship - rich beautiful socially isolated royal children and twins partially emotionally abused(by Tywin strict) and connect together for safety in a FICTIONAL FANTASY world where famous powerful kings & queens end up a siblings getting married as okay, the most powerful & beautiful date. Jaime's final DUTY is to his twin and their child not our romance fantasy. Of the Lannisters, that is what they were and not 'evil' as the reason, if they were nice/good/ or like estranged like Luke&Leia Skywalker, getting sexual was JUST AS possibl
I know some were upset with Sansa spilling Jon’s true identity so quickly, I was too but really, was anyone that surprised? I was more upset with Dany telling Jon to hide who he really is from Sansa and Arya. The Starks are close and maybe because Dany doesn’t come from that she doesn’t understand but that rubbed me the wrong way. She basically did not care that she and Jon were related also. That throne is more important to her than anything else and I can understand that but Jon has repeatedly said that he doesn’t want that damn thing. I wish she could just trust that.
Completely agree. Also, the only reason Missandei and Rhaegal were where they were when then got captured/killed was because Daenerys insisted on moving against King's Landing right away when everyone else (notably Sansa) advised that they should rest and work on their strategy. If they had followed Sansa's advice, Bran could have used the Three-eyed Raven to run reconnaissance missions and they would have seen Euron's ships, armed with Scorpions, waiting for them! Like it or not, those deaths are on Dany!
she grew up thinking she would have to marry Viserys so that makes sense for her not be uncomfortable. Viserys is the only family member she knew, but that doesn't mean she doesn't "understand" how the starks can be close. missandei, grey worm, jorah, they were her true family. Dany was just being logic and spitting facts there, Sansa don't like Dany and she wouldn't keep the secret, and Jon doesn't even want the throne.
And this is the beginning of the end of"Game of Thrones"....And no,I don't mean it because there are few episodes left.X-((( #bEsTsEaSoNeVaH 08:29 - 08:30 It's called *fanservice.* I can't watch these last episodes anymore without hearing the comment by Il Trono del Muori under them!!😵😅
The Targaryens lost their claim to the throne when they lost the throne. All this claim talk tires me yet its funny and entertaining cause all of these ppl that want to be kings and queens are mad. Dany will have to conquer kings landing to get her "claim" back. The Boratheons hold it even though Lanisters have sat the throne since Bobby's murder.
Ok because this has always bothered me too 😂 like Jon isn’t “the rightful heir to the iron throne” and neither is Dany - they lost a war. I get trying to take it back with another war but the whole “rightful”, “stolen”, etc is annoying. Just say you want it back and are going to war for it - not that the throne always has been/was/is owed to you!
@@mmcreads exactly.. that falls into the madness category for sure. The talk of freeing the world of tyrants in this episode had my eyes rolling lol, and "destiny".. atleast she isn't claiming to be chosen by the gods lol
That’s… not how it works. The Targaryen claim doesn’t just disappear because they were ousted. Indeed, Robert’s legal claim to the Iron Throne derived from HIM being the closest Targaryen heir after the Mad King and his children, because his grandmother had been Rhaelle Targaryen. If Daenerys and Jon suddenly died, Gendry would be the next in the Targaryen line of succession
"Why people break good health realationship for toxic ones " ... so true !!! I am 44 and i used to be that type of person for the most of my life. I have only few months that i had finally fully 100% realised this mindset and how bad is for your mental health . Now I am trying to stay away from complicated and unstable women . Ok i understand, it has very fun and adrenaline and i have had great times with such women but i also had and huge flows . 😀🤪
Jamie leaving to go back to Cersei makes zero sense and actively undermines his entire arc. Just insanely dumb. And there's no reason to give us a closeup of the dragon being slaughtered. Just screwing with us for the sake of it. This episode is where Benioff and Weiss really lost me. I was willing to forgive a lot but it's like at this point they just said fuck it and took their money and ran.
If Dany says to Jon, basically " Don't say anything. Let me take power." Is she really worthy of the throne? Also, if she had been more patient like Sansa had suggested maybe her dragon and her friend would still be alive. Now come the consequences to the Game of Thrones...
@Ali Chaudhry Bullshit. Tyrion messed up, but he was trying to help her do things with minimal loss of life. That's not dumb. That's compassionate. Him trusting Cersei IS stupid, I'll give you that. Dany, since season 2, has been a petulant entitled brat IMO, whose desire for the throne outweighed anything and everyone else. You sound like one of the people who named their Frenchie or babies Khaleesi and then regretted it 🤣
4:58 no daenarys doesn’t feel lonely her inner monologue aka her consciousness is giving her thoughts on being betrayed she hears others getting praise and she is going from buddies in war to potential enemies in peace time she is going mad …slowly but sure she is going mad
She is a narcist, and she showed clear signs of that very early (and "early" means not only this season but early in all of the seasons). But all viewers turned a blind-eye and worshipped her... for being the poor girl she was in the beginning and raised from that.
The opening montage of all the dead being burned was a nice little moment and I liked seeing everyone be honored. I loved seeing Sansa over Theon crying and pinning him with the Stark pin. That was wonderful. I enjoyed seeing everyone celebrating and being happy at least for a little while. Yay for Gendry being called a Baratheon and being made a lord. The scene with Arya was super sad. He proposed and she shot it down. But it was very in character . That's definitely not Arya. Brienne and Jaime finally happened! I was happy for that, but it sucks that Jaime had to go and just leave her to go back to effing Cersei. WHY. I HATE that that happened because hes grown so much! But it felt in character to me. I think Jaime just doesn't feel like he is worthy so he self sabotages. CERSEI IS INSUFFERABLE. I need her to freaking die! I want Arya to do it! Dany/Jon were awkward. But I am on Dany's side with this. It sucks for her that now if people find out who he is they will just dismiss her. And shes done so much to get to the throne, it sucks that the guy she loves will be potentially the one to take it away from her. I personally don't think Jon would make a good leader, I think he is too soft and doesn't make the tough decisions. In my eyes, Dany is the perfect balance and the entire series has been her journey to the throne so it's sort of disappointing it doesn't seem it's going to go that way. Her pleading with Jon not to tell people was hard to watch because I knew Jon was gong to be an idiot and tell people. Stupid. I've loved every minute and every episode of this show but I have to be honest and say that I am a bit disappointed with where they are taking this storyline with Dany. IMO the entire show has been her journey and I really wanted to see her ruling at the end but it definitely looks like that is not going to happen. They are making her out to be a villain and surely with her killing all the innocent people next episode many are not going to be on her side anymore. :( I still love the show, as much as people shit on the ending.... I mean, just because some things don't always go how I want them to go doesn't mean it's a bad series. I've seen way way way to many horrible shows to complain about this one. LOL from the start this show has come full circle. Everything has a purpose. Characters have full and complete arcs. Everyone has different ideas for what they want. I'm just here to go along for the ride. People have a right to dislike things but to totally dismiss the show and the writers and say it sucks is a bit extreme. It's still one of the best shows I've seen!
Remember what the one leader of the Sons said to Danerys."You were never met to sit and rule you were met to conquer" Danerys path hs been written to conquer so that the true ruler (John) can take over after the wheel was broken,,, by Danerys.
Sansa made the right move for: Westeros, the north, House Stark: Dany did come North, but she also came entitled and expecting the North and the Starks to bend the knee before even proving herself. No one wants Dany or Dragons in Westeros ( unless they control them themselves ). Dany's father ( Jon's grandfather ) killed his Grandfather, uncle, his Mom died all under the mad king, Sansa is well aware of the history of what her house lost, along with 8 other houses who lost their lords. Dany and Jon are both born in Westeros, but Dany and her brother fled while she was a baby, as far as Westeros id concerned she's a foreigner who brought foreign army and attacked them. Jon- Born in Westeros, Son of Rhaegar and Lyanna both loved by their respective kingdoms. Raised in a family who's heritage spans 8-10000 years, by a most (to a fault ) honorable man, knows the customs of both the North and South along with the wildings ; proven he could bring different factions together, and shows concern for the people. Sansa stood on the wall as Dany's dragons dive bombed the people and scared them for nothing but show, Sansa point blank asked Dany to her face Say we win, destroy the NK, go South defeat Cersei, What then ?What did Dany do ? Pulled her hand away and gave snake eyes in LIKE HOW DARE YOU manner. Sansa gave good advice to both Jon and Dany and Dany calls her a welcher , then Sansa made a promise, and despite all the screaming SHE DID NOT SWEAR a VOW or an OATH, and then it's not Jon who told but Bran. Now time passed minimum 24 hours, but it also could be 2 or more days and Sansa's on the wall VERY CONFLICTED watching a dragon with huge holes in it traveling like he has a drunk pilot, her sister is leaving to go south and kill Cersei and her brother / cousin taking wounded soldiers to continue another war.. Maybe if Dany did some real scouting instead of a glide in a park: Her Dragon be alive, her fleet be intact and her BEST FRIEND ( who Sansa and Tyrion saved ) would still be alive. Sansa discovers Tyrion fears Dany and decides to give him a much better option. Choice between Cersei, Dany or Jon for Westeros is a NO BRAINER it's JON. The majority wants Jon on the Throne, Sansa is trying to put him there.
Except non of those people even brought Jon's claim, why is that you think. I find it easier to explain Sansa's evilness then it is to explain Dany's madness.
Everything that Daenerys has done for the last 7 seasons she did because she truly believed she was the right heir to the throne. But now that she knows she isn't, it would be her place to step aside in favor of John/Aegon. She has seen how much the people admire John and want him to be king. Her demanding John to lie about his heritage and to keep persuing the iron throne herself makes her nothing more and nothing less than a foreign invader and usurper. Now she is becoming exactly what she always wanted to change: a ruler dominating others on false claims. She is not breaking the wheel, she is becoming the wheel (and we all know how it ends...)
Exactly! And contrary to what many viewers say, she showed very early in the whole story, how her reaction is when she is not getting what she wants.... She is a narcist.
@@heiko3169 For me it was the point where she cold heartedly crucified the masters and without batting an eye burned the Tarlys. She always said she was better then the master, above them and kinder, but true kindness means also showing mercy to your enemies and not using the same ways as they do. When she told Sam about his father and brother she said she was sorry but her eyes showed that she was not. They didn't bend the knee so she happily killed them, because she thinks it is her right to do so with no regrets. How is that better than Cersei or the others??
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''I'm glad Rhaegal is OK. I really thought we were gonna lose another...''
Me: Don't say it!!!!!
My heart ached for Sofie for next few seconds
19:37 Sofie: I am glad Rhaegal is okay...
That was really painful...
It hurts so much how much money they wasted for showing an useless insane woman on a dragon and were able to show an actual warrior on a dragon only twice.
oof that timing tho lol.
I found it hilarious
All together now!
DANY KINDA FORGOT ABOUT THE IRON FLEET
So did the audience... No one watching the show was like ''Careful, Dany, the Iron Fleet might still be around''
@@SerbAtheist Varys told her that the Iron fleet was seen around earlier in the show! You kind of missed that.
@@SerbAtheist because the audience knew something B&W kinda forgot: how do you not see a fleet from the sky. from a whole season of stupid decisions, this one was probably the second worst (the worst being the whole lack of strategy in the battle of winterfell)
@@SerbAtheist I don't think it's relevant. The autdience can forget parts of the story, and so can the characters. But considering that they fought the Iron Fleet multiple times already AND it was mentioned in their previous war council, it really is a horrible excuse. Does Daenerys have 5 second attention span now? She sure remembers all those titles...
@@SerbAtheist the makers also kinda forgot that these are scorpions from the "medieval age" and not modern high tech rocket launchers
That timing : I'm glad Rhaegal is OK 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣We love you Sofie.
Amazing timing, for sure.
The timing on that “I really thought we were gonna lose another-“ was pure comedy
Out of all the buffoonery of s7 and s8 I still catch myself saying every time "why didnt Missandei just grab Cersei and throw them both off the tower?" seemed like such a good moment when Cersei leaned close to her no?? shrug
Or why didn't cersei just kill everyone
You cannot possibly be this dumb
18:20 There was a huge uproar over John not saying goodbye to Ghost.
So many out of character moments
Yeah I remember that. I thought it was rather silly, to be honest. lol…Ghost obviously would be better off roaming around up North, which he did quite a lot of when Jon was at Castle Black, then in the South. Jon could have petted him goodbye but I wasn’t upset as some where.
@@Victoria-kv9oz If he would petted him, he knew he would not be able to let him go with Tormund. Thats why he decided to not do it, even how hurtful it was to himself and Ghost.
@@heiko3169 Yeah I agree. You could see that when Jon looked at Ghost.
@@heiko3169 it's because of the cgi budget
I don't think Tyrion was trying to get his sister to save herself he was trying to get her to save the people of the city. He had to try something because a lot of innocents are going to die if there is a battle.
ned: kept it a secret for 18 year and lost his head and didn't talk
sansa: spilled it in less than a day
@Cannibal Teddy The reasons don't matter, the argument was that Ned kept a secret and Sansa didn't, which is true statement...
@Cannibal Teddy Made an unreasonable tyrant by shit writers.....you forgot that part.
After Robert death, I think even Ned would spill it out. He kept it secret because of Robert.
@cannibalteddy6846 she made an unreasonable tyrant by her own actions. She could act civil with her if not friendly. She raise her voice and concerns in formal and authentic way instead making them look like insult, she could keep the secret as she was asked for by brother/cousin John. The thing is Sansa can try all she want to be a better version of Cersei but she’ll always be Katelyn’s entitled daughter. Cersei at least kept the secrets to herself. Sansa proved she had nothing of Ned in herself.
@Cannibal Teddy
What a pile of bullshit you've just written.
At that point in the story, Sansa knows nothing about Dany except that she's saved the North with her dragons (one of which was sacrificed) and her armies, and (from Tyrion) that all who follow her love her and are devoted to her.
The only negative thing she may know about Dany - again,...at THIS point, in the story - is that she's standing in the way of Jon's legitimate claim to the throne.
So where does this magical information that she's an "unreasonable tyrant" come from? Information, by the way, that even the audience didn't know of until they very last episode of the show through the clumsiness of awful writing and character assassination?
Angers me how lazy they got. Not seeing Arya and Sansas reaction to the news is a crime.
According to the director of the episode, Jon didn't have any physical interaction with Ghost, despite Ghost's sad whining at seeing Jon leave, because the production team needed to streamline the filming process.
this enrages me.
The later seasons were really poor compared to the previous ones but this is the episode where you know there's no going back...
Le sigh 😞
Actually, I think it was S7 E6 where I realized that there was no way in hell this show was going to end well. Uuugh.
Yeaah that was another whole shitshow.
i love seasons 1to6 , i don't know why some people hate on season 5&6 , i think they are great.
season 7 was Not great but still was okay/meh
my only problem is with S8
@@pariamtzvsame.
After the Night King was eliminated it felt like everything after was just checking off boxes to end the series. I almost wish they would have pulled a Sopranos and just faded to black with Arya swooping in on the Night King and left it open ended… I mean we would have raged but in retrospect it might have been better than the collective letdown of the rushed ending
I think at this rate the most shocking and best ending would be to actually let Night King win (at least enough for a time for him to conquer King’s Landing at least).
In my head they did it that way. I always stop watching after Ep3
I agree with you. Bar the incest factor…I would have preferred Dany & Jon to be married and rule together and yes…she wouldn’t have bended him to her will…Jon was the only one where Dany made so much sacrifices for…people would disagree as is their right…but my opinion is with yours Sofie
Oh yea, the way the characters were acting Jon absolutely would have straightened Danny out, and it's not like she needed a lot of work to make into a great honorable Queen, even with the random spat of genocide at the end. And it's like like executing traitors, the only icky thing Danny ever did until nearly the end, wasn't something Jon supported anyway.
In the books the setup is much more believable, since, you know, it's actually written by an author, not children.
The last two seasons were written with David Benioff and D. B. Weiss looking for a quick exit since they were approached by LucasFilm to direct Star Wars movies. With a lot of the cast getting a little fatigue after 6 seasons of pretty arduous filming, the producers wanted to wrap of GoT fast and get out. They didn't have any more source material to reference so they basically and recklessly started trying to rush toward a conclusion. A lot of plots and characters were rushed or destroyed in the name of brevity. GRR Martin, having been out guessed by most of the internet, had little to offer in terms of creative ideas beyond the books. David Benioff and D. B. Weiss didn't care anymore and basically pulled the ripcord and flipped off the fans as they believed they were laughing their way to the LucasFilm bank. Their handling and fumbling of the last 2 seasons made LucasFilm reassess their desire to hand some Star Wars to them and then pulled their offer, leaving the two producers with a very damaged reputation.
The Jaime-Cersei-relationship is like an addiction. You know it's bad for you but you are drawn to it nonetheless. Cersei is the "drug" Jaime can"t resist.
19:38 Sophie: I’m glad Rhaegal is Ok. I really thought we’re gonna lose another….. !! 😂
Man. This episode is like a kick in the teeth. It almost feels disrespectful to the audience, characters, actors, crew… I can’t even imagine how the actors felt when they realized this truly was how the final season was going to be.
@@TheReDeeMeR1988 there are few that stayed good until the end very few
@@TheReDeeMeR1988 Breaking bad wants to talk to you
@@TheReDeeMeR1988 I imagine you haven't seen Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Mr Robot...
Another great reaction, SoFie, despite an episode that is remarkably difficult to fathom. There are lots of "why did they's" in this one. Thanks for soldiering on! You're a trooper!
Question: Why did they...?
Answer: Because the show runners wanted to end the show quickly to go work on Star Wars.
@@ramonacosta2647 BS. Daenerys character arc showed glimpses of what will come very early on. The most viewers just turned a blind eye on that because they worshipped Daenerys so much, that they were unable to see through it.
@@heiko3169nobody said that Dany’s arc wasn’t leading this way. It’s simply the way it’s executed is the problem. Literally every character in last season are acting like stoic version of themselves.
@@heiko3169 Dany's character arc would have made sense if the show was allowed to go on longer. I agree that the trajectory had already been set, but it was greatly accelerated because D&D wanted to cut the show short. Other character arcs were just travesties, like Jaime, Viserys, Littlefinger, and Tyrion. Not nearly a complete list.
15:15 say hello to the "great" writing that is S8.... ;-)
How can people ignore the fact, that Arya just learned the hard way about Jon.
I really dislike this episode. After the Winterfell scene at the start, there's something not quite right with all the characters. Like they're all just moving the plot forward instead of being characters. Also dislike how it's setup as Dany loses one dragon against the Night King and then a battle and then loses one against Cersei, etc.
Totally agree.
the writers kinda forgot that dany's whole motivation and personality in the books is all about home and family.
"House Targaryen will end with me. That made her sad. “You must be my children,” she told the dragons, “my three fierce children. Barristan says dragons live longer than men, so you will go on after I am dead.”
"All Daenerys wanted back was the big house with the red door, the lemon tree outside her window, the childhood she had never known."
"i would give up my crown if he [Daario] asked it of me, dany thought... but he had not asked it, and never would."
“I was alone for a long time, Jorah. All alone but for my brother. I was such a small scared thing. Viserys should have protected me, but instead he hurt me and scared me worse. He shouldn’t have done that. He wasn’t just my brother, he was my king"
"Viserys was cruel and weak and frightened, yet he was my brother still. His dragon will do what he could not."
"Viserys had been stupid and vicious, she had come to realize, yet sometimes she missed him all the same. Not the cruel weak man he had become by the end, but the brother who had sometimes let her creep into his bed, the boy who told her tales of the Seven Kingdoms."
"No one will be left to die. You are all my people.” Her dreams of home and love had blinded her. “I will not abandon Meereen to the fate of Astapor. It grieves me to say so, but Westeros must wait.”
"i was tired, jorah. i was weary of war. I wanted to rest, to laugh, to plant trees and see them grow, i am only a young girl".
"I am going to take you home one day, Missandei [...] Say the word, my sweet, and I will send you from this awful place. I will find a ship & send you home. To Naath.”
“I would sooner stay with you. On Naath I’d be afraid. I feel safe when I’m with you.” she replied
Safe. The word made Dany’s eyes fill up with tears. “I want to keep you safe."
"what shall we talk?" missandei said
"Home. Naath. Butterflies and brothers. Tell me of the things that make you happy, the things that make you giggle, all your sweetest memories."
I'm crying right now, thank you.
Lmao you are still in denial huh? I question if you have even read the books.
@@suddenimpulse030 i ask you the same. those lines i quoted are literally from the books, weirdo
"House Targaryen will end with me"
That means no happy ending winning the throne starting a new dynasty and it certainly doesn't mean she's going to find a man and have children. She's going to die stop deluding yourself!
@@suddenimpulse030
Jon killing Daenerys was foreshadowed like crazy in the book. It's definitely GRRM's ending that part
And there's no coincidence half of the fandom believed it would happen several years before it did. It's because the theory held water/it had tons of backing from the show and books alike
Jaime's 8 seasons of character development - Gone
I guess you've never known someone in a long term relationship with a narcissist, because his decision to go back to her is one of the most realistic, albeit disappointing, character moments in the episode.
@@TheMonkeyShowOnlinejust stop. It’s possible to free oneself from a narcissistic relationship. Jamie is strong, otherwise he would never have left kingslanding to go north in the first place.
@@Iamsome61 Of course it's possible, but it's certainly not inevitable.
Plenty of people go their entire lives never fully escaping it, even if they do manage to temporarily disengage from it.
One of the smartest, strongest people I've ever met didn't fully break the link to her narcissistic family until she was 60 years old.
There's nothing whatsoever unrealistic or inconsistent with Jamie's decision to go back.
Book spoiler...
if it makes you feel better, Jamie is pretty much done with Cersei when he goes to take Riverrun. He found out about her cheating with multiple people while he was away in captivity. The most atrocious part of this show, in my opinion, is how Jamie and Cersei died. I like to imagine she suffered under those rocks for hours with a broken body
I was so waiting for a scene where he had to kill Cirise to save Brianne
16:55 and it was in this moment Sansa became little finger
The timing of 19:36 🤣🤣🤣
Poor Tormond he would have treated brienne with respect.
3:43 Does anyone know how many times this line, or a version of this line is said in season 8?
19:38 😂😂😂 Also, "Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet".
21:14 So was everybody else.
23:23 Yeah, that's some bullsh*t.
25:00 #characterregression
27:50 Translation: 'Burn them all'
15:21 "He's hurt, but at least he's alive." Ouch
maaaan it just hit me how close to the end we are and im legit about to tear up
"Dany Kind of Forgot About the Iron Fleet"...
"I'm really glad Rhaegal is okay....." bless your heart!
Not just you Sofie, but literally everyone wont to know the starks reaction to Jon truth but sadly that never come true😖. And true Ned must be rolling in his grave the secret he kept for 17years until he died just spread everywhere like wildfire.
one of the worst episodes of GOT complete shit
@cannibalteddy6846 Exactly. Ned kept it a secret because Jon's life was in danger if Robert ever found out. There's no reason to keep it a secret anymore.
Indeed and even if there’s ‘no need’ to keep the secret episode because Robert is dead doesn’t mean John’s life wouldn’t be threatened because he’s the last male descendant of previous dynasty. Let’s just say if Dany’s wasn’t in picture then also if the Jon’s secret was revealed, the next king Joffrey would have him killed in fear of possible rebellion. Let’s face is most of Ned’s family members are emotional fulls, there was no way he was taking chance in telling this secret to any family member. Let’s look at Sansa for example, didn’t even take her a day to conspire against Dany by using Jon’s heritage when he pleaded them not to tell anyone.
@@Shaesi.The only reason was Jon ''Jacaerys'' Snow asked her.
The fact that Jon never said goodbye to ghost really frustrated me. Really shows how bad the script was for this season. There’s a lot of things that don’t make sense
I was so angry about this episode that I wrote a big rant on my personal Facebook and it went viral with like 15k likes lol
Halfway through this episode is when I officially stop watching reactions to this show. So I'll say here that Sofie is my all time favorite solo reactor to this series. Perfect blend of humor, analysis, and predictions.
Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet bwahahahahahahsha
Hannah Murray was actually pregnant in this season of filming.
The whole character arch and character development of Jaime was destroyed in a single episode. I don`t even know what plot twist is worse - Jaime returning to Cersei and leaving Brienne or the way two Stark girls tricked the most brilliant trickster and puppeteer of all Seven Kingdoms, Petyr Baelish. The most stupid decisions to close these characters` plotlines. I`ll never forgive D&D for Jaime and Littlefinger. And for Jon. Poor guy was robbed of everything. He should have killed the Night King.
I think Littlefinger was fine but for Jamie and Jon, totally agree.
And who made the decision to cut away from Jon telling his family?!?! God, what happened to this show?
Uhm, you ignore the fact that she just learned the truth the hard way??
The same person who wrote the rest of Season 8, containing scenes getting cut off when the dialogue gets interesting, e.g. when Sansa asks Dany “what about the North?” or when Jon tells Dany about his Targaryen heritage
@@rakdar1714 because they couldn’t write back-and-forth dialogue they were only good for one liners
They would come up with a witty line and have no rebuttal for it
''I'm glad Rhaegal is OK. I really thought we were gonna lose another...'' - you have an incredible talent to accidentally predict events.
Sofie : ''I'm glad Rhaegal is OK. I really thought we were gonna lose another...''
Us : "Oooof!!
That's the most Summer Child-iest thing to ever Summer in these Summer (Child) Isles in all of Summerville.
I was so heartbroken for Brienne. Jamie’s speech when he left her is so poorly written. If what he said was really true, he would have never left Cerci to ride north in the first place. It would have been much more realistic and in keeping with his character arc if he had said something like “I can’t let my sister die alone.”
i cant stand Sam, breaks all his oaths to the nights watch and nothing ever happens to him, meanwhile one of the first scenes we see is a guy running after seeing a white walker and that guy is executed
That was in seaon 1, this is season 8 every rule before is thrown out of the window.
i hate these last few episodes so much lmaoooooo
After you finish the season, you should watch the next honest trailer and the pitch meeting for season 8
Pitch Meeting is better 👍
My favorites are some of the interviews with the cast before the final season aired.... especially Kit and Emilia....
Daenerys flies all over Dragonstone. How could she not see an armada of enemy ships below her?🤨
18:42 ERROR
Robert's rebellion didn't start just because of Lyanna's "kidnapping", the rebellion was inevitable when Aerys executed Ned's brother and father, not content with that Aerys demanded Robert and Ned's heads when they had done nothing, at the time it was fight or die.
It makes me angry that in this episode they say that Robert's rebellion was a mistake and that it was only based on Lyanna. Rather, Robert's rebellion ended the mad king's tyranny and allowed a period of temporary peace.
What did Tyrion expect Robert to do? stand by and accept having his head lopped off simply because Aerys wanted him dead?
Technically rhaegar would have done a far better job as a king if roberts rebellion never happened.
Well, a lot of that blame could be placed squarely on Varys's shoulders?
Supposedly, he is the person who whispered into Aerys's ear that the Tourney at Harrenhall (held by the Whents, good friends of Rhaegar) was a cover for a meeting between Rhaegar and all the major lords to plan to remove Aerys with as little bloodshed as possible and place Rhaegar on the Throne.
In his growing paranoia, Aerys hadn't left the Red Keep in years...but he came to the Tourney to make sure no such meetings could take place.
The Bronn storyline was so unnecessary. Felt like they didn't know what to do with the character since he didn't participate in the Battle of Winterfell and cause they had to pay the actor anyways they came up we the stupidest of plotlines since the "Dorne adventure" he had with Jamie.
25:20-25:30.I thought it's obvious.Jaime sees Cersei as a punishment for all the bad things he have done.He thinks he doesn't deserve to be saved,to live happy life far away from Cersei,and her toxic influence.Besides, situation becomes more difficult,if to remember,that he,and Cersei are twins,twins always have some very special mental,and spiritual bond with each other.
Can't believe it has to be one whole week for the bells reaction 😭😭😭
Well, Jon is a Stark, too. He is cousin of the Stark kids... but seems not to be important..Greetings from Germany❤
It’s funny that she lost Rhaegal right after the secret of Rhaegars son (jon) who she named the dragon after comes out
At least the next episode is going to make sense to her, unlike for so many others who can't see what has been happening to Daenerys over the last few episodes.
so true. Thank you for lighten the dark of all those haters in the comments, who where just to dumb and/or turned a blind eye on the early signs of Daenerys inner demons.
This (whats coming) is by far NOT out of nothing ...
@@heiko3169you are the idiots who are dumb
@@heiko3169 It makes a lot of sense with where we left Dany at the end of Book 5. But I still think the writing was absolute shit for the last few seasons of GoT.
Honestly, these reactions are even hard to watch. Not your fault Sofie, just still disappointed in how sharply the quality of this show nose dived. I remember rewatching the show between seasons for years in anticipation of how it would turn out. I've never rewatched a single episode since season 8. It wasn't a conscious choice. I'm not boycotting GOT. I just lost all interest (despite continuing to read the books). If HOTD hadn't been so on point, I'd have probably skipped this reaction series.
Hello there again my beautiful Sofie🥰 i like the way you laugh you're so cute..take care always🥰
Oh it was even worse than I remember. Sure, Cersei, execute your only hostage and lose all the leverage. That's a great reason to look smug... not even book 4 Cersei was that dumb. Lena Headey probably just wanted the paycheck.
"Dany just kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet"
The Pirate Cosplay enthusiast shot his scorpians through the rocks taking out a Dragon.
Remember how easy that was & how vulnerable the dragons are to that weapon for later remaining episodes.
22:15 She's been a tyrant for a long time. She's just been checked by her advisors. Remember what happened in Mareen when she lopped of the guys head for killing a master. Everyone was against a public beheading. Yet, THE QUEEN knows best XD and they say this crap happened all the sudden. I say you need to watch her more carefully throughout the series.
sure...
@@yusufraage8554 great retort.
@@TheWindcrow thank you.
Tormund a true lover and fighter would have treated brienne right!
The Beginning of the End. The Rollercoaster suddenly Drops!
Try to enjoy the ride; there's not much left.
The look between Dany and Tyrion at 11:10…..
Sofie i can't believe that u supported Dany about Jon not to tell to people who he really is😏
Me፡ What do u know about living been bustard ?😂
Okay SoFie, great job! When should we expect Season 8, Episode 5?
I’m with dany , she must burn the city down , she has reasons and she should do that . I’m with her
Ah he'll, the Mad Queen has been around ever since season one. People were just blinded to this fact because of the dragons she had, which coincidentally so did her father when he was named the Mad King.
The mad queen arc was indeed out of nowhere. Dany had flaws; yes, because she saw world in B&W aspect but she still learned from her mistakes. She didn’t punish someone for no reason unlike the mad king. If they really wanted to go for Mad Queen arc with her then they could made more subtle points in her decisions or at build it up well by extending the series to 10-11 seasons instead but nope the makers wanted to wrap it up fast so they could follow up Star Wars projects (another poorly written trilogy).
There are signs of it all the way back in S1, but people just refuse to admit it...
might be true but still the execution, the pacing, the plot was so damn poor these last 2 seasons. Maybe our perception will change if somehow Dumb and Dumb agrees to GRRM's suggestion to wrap up the show for 10 seasons instead
no such as thing as mad queen
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In another world Brianne would have been perfect for Jaime but he was from birth connected to Cersei BORN & DIE TOGETHER!
My comments - JAIME & CERSEI have real life logical reasons to have ended up in a sexual relationship - rich beautiful socially isolated royal children and twins partially emotionally abused(by Tywin strict) and connect together for safety in a FICTIONAL FANTASY world where famous powerful kings & queens end up a siblings getting married as okay, the most powerful & beautiful date. Jaime's final DUTY is to his twin and their child not our romance fantasy. Of the Lannisters, that is what they were and not 'evil' as the reason, if they were nice/good/ or like estranged like Luke&Leia Skywalker, getting sexual was JUST AS possibl
please put out ep 5 tomorrow....hey. a guy can dream. 🙂👍
I know some were upset with Sansa spilling Jon’s true identity so quickly, I was too but really, was anyone that surprised? I was more upset with Dany telling Jon to hide who he really is from Sansa and Arya. The Starks are close and maybe because Dany doesn’t come from that she doesn’t understand but that rubbed me the wrong way. She basically did not care that she and Jon were related also. That throne is more important to her than anything else and I can understand that but Jon has repeatedly said that he doesn’t want that damn thing. I wish she could just trust that.
Dany knew John didn’t want the throne, she just didn’t think Sansa could be trusted with the secret and she was right about that.
Completely agree. Also, the only reason Missandei and Rhaegal were where they were when then got captured/killed was because Daenerys insisted on moving against King's Landing right away when everyone else (notably Sansa) advised that they should rest and work on their strategy. If they had followed Sansa's advice, Bran could have used the Three-eyed Raven to run reconnaissance missions and they would have seen Euron's ships, armed with Scorpions, waiting for them! Like it or not, those deaths are on Dany!
she grew up thinking she would have to marry Viserys so that makes sense for her not be uncomfortable. Viserys is the only family member she knew, but that doesn't mean she doesn't "understand" how the starks can be close. missandei, grey worm, jorah, they were her true family.
Dany was just being logic and spitting facts there, Sansa don't like Dany and she wouldn't keep the secret, and Jon doesn't even want the throne.
I think Jaimie was character assassinated in this episode
And this is the beginning of the end of"Game of Thrones"....And no,I don't mean it because there are few episodes left.X-((( #bEsTsEaSoNeVaH
08:29 - 08:30 It's called *fanservice.*
I can't watch these last episodes anymore without hearing the comment by Il Trono del Muori under them!!😵😅
I really don't understands Cersei's move at the end. She had a valuable hostage. She could have made a much better outcome for herself.
Are you going to watch House of the Dragon next? It's better then the last few seasons of GoT...
She said she would❤
@@divinelangene6813 Halleluja!
HotD is a Hot Mess.
Yes! Lets Go Sofie!!
The Targaryens lost their claim to the throne when they lost the throne. All this claim talk tires me yet its funny and entertaining cause all of these ppl that want to be kings and queens are mad. Dany will have to conquer kings landing to get her "claim" back. The Boratheons hold it even though Lanisters have sat the throne since Bobby's murder.
Ok because this has always bothered me too 😂 like Jon isn’t “the rightful heir to the iron throne” and neither is Dany - they lost a war. I get trying to take it back with another war but the whole “rightful”, “stolen”, etc is annoying. Just say you want it back and are going to war for it - not that the throne always has been/was/is owed to you!
@@mmcreads exactly.. that falls into the madness category for sure. The talk of freeing the world of tyrants in this episode had my eyes rolling lol, and "destiny".. atleast she isn't claiming to be chosen by the gods lol
That’s… not how it works. The Targaryen claim doesn’t just disappear because they were ousted. Indeed, Robert’s legal claim to the Iron Throne derived from HIM being the closest Targaryen heir after the Mad King and his children, because his grandmother had been Rhaelle Targaryen. If Daenerys and Jon suddenly died, Gendry would be the next in the Targaryen line of succession
@@rakdar1714 then why did it go to Bran 😂
@@mack_taylorwell because who’s has the better backstory than Bran 😂
You support Delena so you should know why people leave a stable relationship for a toxic one 😂
"Why people break good health realationship for toxic ones " ... so true !!!
I am 44 and i used to be that type of person for the most of my life. I have only few months that i had finally fully 100% realised this mindset and how bad is for your mental health . Now I am trying to stay away from complicated and unstable women . Ok i understand, it has very fun and adrenaline and i have had great times with such women but i also had and huge flows .
😀🤪
Have you reacted to house of the dragon?
Ghost didn't even get a stick
Jamie leaving to go back to Cersei makes zero sense and actively undermines his entire arc. Just insanely dumb. And there's no reason to give us a closeup of the dragon being slaughtered. Just screwing with us for the sake of it. This episode is where Benioff and Weiss really lost me. I was willing to forgive a lot but it's like at this point they just said fuck it and took their money and ran.
You didn't watch History and Lore season 7 ?
I thought she was going to lose another...
18:35 that's funny
from this episode until the last, every character acts so cringe haha
Sofie did you skip season 7 lore or am I missing something? 🤔
If Dany says to Jon, basically " Don't say anything. Let me take power." Is she really worthy of the throne? Also, if she had been more patient like Sansa had suggested maybe her dragon and her friend would still be alive. Now come the consequences to the Game of Thrones...
@Ali Chaudhry Bullshit. Tyrion messed up, but he was trying to help her do things with minimal loss of life. That's not dumb. That's compassionate. Him trusting Cersei IS stupid, I'll give you that. Dany, since season 2, has been a petulant entitled brat IMO, whose desire for the throne outweighed anything and everyone else. You sound like one of the people who named their Frenchie or babies Khaleesi and then regretted it 🤣
@@alichaudhry2561you’re the first person who actually calls out Tyrion’s flaws.
4:58 no daenarys doesn’t feel lonely her inner monologue aka her consciousness is giving her thoughts on being betrayed she hears others getting praise and she is going from buddies in war to potential enemies in peace time she is going mad …slowly but sure she is going mad
yeah bullshit writing
Beg to differ
She is a narcist, and she showed clear signs of that very early (and "early" means not only this season but early in all of the seasons).
But all viewers turned a blind-eye and worshipped her... for being the poor girl she was in the beginning and raised from that.
19:38 fucking classic
"I am glad Rhaegal is ..." oops
The opening montage of all the dead being burned was a nice little moment and I liked seeing everyone be honored. I loved seeing Sansa over Theon crying and pinning him with the Stark pin. That was wonderful.
I enjoyed seeing everyone celebrating and being happy at least for a little while. Yay for Gendry being called a Baratheon and being made a lord. The scene with Arya was super sad. He proposed and she shot it down. But it was very in character . That's definitely not Arya.
Brienne and Jaime finally happened! I was happy for that, but it sucks that Jaime had to go and just leave her to go back to effing Cersei. WHY. I HATE that that happened because hes grown so much! But it felt in character to me. I think Jaime just doesn't feel like he is worthy so he self sabotages.
CERSEI IS INSUFFERABLE. I need her to freaking die! I want Arya to do it!
Dany/Jon were awkward. But I am on Dany's side with this. It sucks for her that now if people find out who he is they will just dismiss her. And shes done so much to get to the throne, it sucks that the guy she loves will be potentially the one to take it away from her. I personally don't think Jon would make a good leader, I think he is too soft and doesn't make the tough decisions. In my eyes, Dany is the perfect balance and the entire series has been her journey to the throne so it's sort of disappointing it doesn't seem it's going to go that way. Her pleading with Jon not to tell people was hard to watch because I knew Jon was gong to be an idiot and tell people. Stupid.
I've loved every minute and every episode of this show but I have to be honest and say that I am a bit disappointed with where they are taking this storyline with Dany. IMO the entire show has been her journey and I really wanted to see her ruling at the end but it definitely looks like that is not going to happen. They are making her out to be a villain and surely with her killing all the innocent people next episode many are not going to be on her side anymore. :(
I still love the show, as much as people shit on the ending.... I mean, just because some things don't always go how I want them to go doesn't mean it's a bad series. I've seen way way way to many horrible shows to complain about this one. LOL from the start this show has come full circle. Everything has a purpose. Characters have full and complete arcs. Everyone has different ideas for what they want. I'm just here to go along for the ride. People have a right to dislike things but to totally dismiss the show and the writers and say it sucks is a bit extreme. It's still one of the best shows I've seen!
Jamie and Breann were always severely mismatched.
Remember what the one leader of the Sons said to Danerys."You were never met to sit and rule you were met to conquer" Danerys path hs been written to conquer so that the true ruler (John) can take over after the wheel was broken,,, by Danerys.
I seriously can't express my dislike toward this season. This episode and the last one especially.
Just remember that Daenerys already decided to attack, this was just a last ditch effort from Tyrion to stop it. Daenerys would've done it regardless.
as she should
They really made tyrion dumb since meeting dani. It's such a shame
Ugh this episode hurts to watch, mostly because it is where all remaining sense goes out the window. Episodes 1-3 of season 8 are bearable at least...
Episode 1 and 3 were awful. The only decent episode is 2.
Bad writing is bad. Felt so sorry for all the actors in this season in particular
Olenna was right :c
John just can't. He has too much of his father in him.
I love when you wear that little rascals hat 😅
Edit: "I'm glad Rhaegal is okay maaan..." - That timing was impeccable ! 😂🤣
Sansa made the right move for: Westeros, the north, House Stark:
Dany did come North, but she also came entitled and expecting the North and the Starks to bend the knee before even proving herself.
No one wants Dany or Dragons in Westeros ( unless they control them themselves ).
Dany's father ( Jon's grandfather ) killed his Grandfather, uncle, his Mom died all under the mad king, Sansa is well aware of the history of what her house lost, along with 8 other houses who lost their lords.
Dany and Jon are both born in Westeros, but Dany and her brother fled while she was a baby, as far as Westeros id concerned she's a foreigner who brought foreign army and attacked them.
Jon- Born in Westeros, Son of Rhaegar and Lyanna both loved by their respective kingdoms.
Raised in a family who's heritage spans 8-10000 years, by a most (to a fault ) honorable man, knows the customs of both the North and South along with the wildings ; proven he could bring different factions together, and shows concern for the people.
Sansa stood on the wall as Dany's dragons dive bombed the people and scared them for nothing but show, Sansa point blank asked Dany to her face Say we win, destroy the NK, go South defeat Cersei, What then ?What did Dany do ? Pulled her hand away and gave snake eyes in LIKE HOW DARE YOU manner.
Sansa gave good advice to both Jon and Dany and Dany calls her a welcher , then Sansa made a promise, and despite all the screaming SHE DID NOT SWEAR a VOW or an OATH, and then it's not Jon who told but Bran.
Now time passed minimum 24 hours, but it also could be 2 or more days and Sansa's on the wall VERY CONFLICTED watching a dragon with huge holes in it traveling like he has a drunk pilot, her sister is leaving to go south and kill Cersei and her brother / cousin taking wounded soldiers to continue another war..
Maybe if Dany did some real scouting instead of a glide in a park: Her Dragon be alive, her fleet be intact and her BEST FRIEND ( who Sansa and Tyrion saved ) would still be alive.
Sansa discovers Tyrion fears Dany and decides to give him a much better option.
Choice between Cersei, Dany or Jon for Westeros is a NO BRAINER it's JON.
The majority wants Jon on the Throne, Sansa is trying to put him there.
Except non of those people even brought Jon's claim, why is that you think. I find it easier to explain Sansa's evilness then it is to explain Dany's madness.
@@yusufraage8554 Nothing supports Sansa being evil, in the show., just the opposite.
Everything that Daenerys has done for the last 7 seasons she did because she truly believed she was the right heir to the throne. But now that she knows she isn't, it would be her place to step aside in favor of John/Aegon. She has seen how much the people admire John and want him to be king. Her demanding John to lie about his heritage and to keep persuing the iron throne herself makes her nothing more and nothing less than a foreign invader and usurper. Now she is becoming exactly what she always wanted to change: a ruler dominating others on false claims. She is not breaking the wheel, she is becoming the wheel (and we all know how it ends...)
Exactly! And contrary to what many viewers say, she showed very early in the whole story, how her reaction is when she is not getting what she wants.... She is a narcist.
@@heiko3169 For me it was the point where she cold heartedly crucified the masters and without batting an eye burned the Tarlys.
She always said she was better then the master, above them and kinder, but true kindness means also showing mercy to your enemies and not using the same ways as they do.
When she told Sam about his father and brother she said she was sorry but her eyes showed that she was not. They didn't bend the knee so she happily killed them, because she thinks it is her right to do so with no regrets. How is that better than Cersei or the others??