I bought the f20 and i think its not that bad cuz u can use it in ground rb too + u will be in downtier 11.7-12.7 often cuz of the sales of mirage and things like that and if u know how to use correctly the f5c and the missiles. U can get 3-5 kills easely
@SeekerHead I completely understand but because I try as much as possible to flank the enemy team, usually I don't get fakoured. Things that I'm scared of are actually fox 3 but cuz of this, "sales downtier matchmaking" that I'm encountering it make this things quite good. I didn't want to go to the f5c cuz my aim is really bad so relying on my guns would have been complicated. Anyways I like ur video and pretty much agree with all u have said
I was gonna say I disagree with Italy because of the 104 (even though it's br mm sucks, but base bombing is VERY viable with two napalms if someone wants easy yet boring grinding) but I forgot they removed it.
Anyone looking to grind Russia I did it with the Su-25K and had an amazing time and did not base bomb. Now that the MiG-23 flight model has been nerfed to the ground I for sure recommend the Su. You can punish flareless planes with your missiles sure you won’t see as many as we used to but still happens. Also you just PUNISH the A-10 premium players. You can get so much of the tree done just buy killing A-10 premium beginners and the guns are amazing. Don’t let anyone on your 6 and you will have the tree done in no time. Love this plane
I actually do quite enjoy the Mirage F1C. I do think the missile loads are lack luster, but you can still get a nice chunk of RP gain from it IF you try and bomb a base. Like you said, most of the time people will get there before you. If thats the case, dump the bombs and go get two magic kills. Otherwise continue on to destroy the base plus two magic kills. Also the guns are very nice to use if you know how to dogfight with it. Just my experience with the plane at its current matchmaker.
I’ll recommend these jets to play: In no particular order, English Electric Lightning, Tornado F.3, any Meteor, F-111C, both Jaguars, the Venom and The Sea Venom. Obviously the Jas39C and the Typhoon are on this list, but since they are the top tier jets, I figured you’d already be getting those. Some of these planes are not that good, I just do well in them and overall, many of them are beautiful airframes. I hope you enjoy the Bri’ish air tree as much as I am!
funny thing is, if you get the f5c is that you wont be using the MISSiles (the 9E is not that good) that it has and use the guns more instead, STILL, great plane overral
I don't personally think GB is too worth it as far as top tier jets go. Italy is the better choice if you want Eurofighter because you can also get other good top tier jets in the same tech tree.
i believe ur wrong on the Av8s, its 200+ countermeasures help it alot, and so long as u dont stay on the deck, u can regain ur speed well enough, if u make sure u fight people who u can take on, the aim9ps are bassically 2 free kills against no flare players.
Nah the F1C is still very solid. Magic kills are essentially 2 free kills when you fire at the proper AoA, then you have what is now a solid gun fighter. 12.0 is a very solid matchmaker that doesn’t include a ton of full uptiers. You often fight 12.3 and lower. 12.7 is still getting sucked up into 13.7ish, although that will likely change. The bomb loadout is probably a 8/10 likely hood to bomb a base, since rockets got mega nerfed. No more F-4 base rocket CCIP sniping
@@SeekerHeadI’ve definitely gotten in 13.0 ruts for sure, but I’ll just step away for an hour and then it’s like the matchmaker resets itself lol. Perhaps that’s just also the good ole Gaijin wearing me down and I gotta take a break to not notice the pain so much🥲
@@SeekerHead yeah there is a lot of versatile plane , i prefere french bc i got some bad experience as a f4s player and i dont want to play america for now and plus im french xd
i like the french tech tree and ussr tech tree. so i'm between the two. i like the ussr tech tree a lot more so i'm kinda ser on getting the mig23 but i'm wondering if maybe it's better to wait for a new top tier france premium (or even squadron vechicle) or just wait for the next sale
I'm so torn between f1c and j7d honestly, which tech tree (China or France) has more potential for the future? I don't really know what to expect (or even which new planes could be added) from both nations at toptier. I lowkey want both rafale and j-10 and no way im grinding through props for the 5th time XD Thoughts?!
China has more planes for top tier if you’re talking about potential. But the Rafael is quite good and has upgrades it can get down the line. Can’t go wrong with either right now. j7D itself is much more fun than mirage. Also noteworthy that china has a M2K in their tree
If you MUST grind britain, that's definitely your best option right now for top tier packs. Not the greatest plane but it has 2 R73s and that makes it pretty consistsent for grinding. I don't find Britain too worth it right now though personally, all they really have is eurofighter.
I don't find britain to be the most worth it really, Italy has both of its only good top tiers (and in the grtipen's case - slightly better due to AMRAAMs) and then some, so I'd do that one instead. GB has some other unique planes at lower tiers though that are pretty fun though as well. Ultimately going to be what you think is most worth it of course.
France is better for air with the Rafale, while USSR has an amazing TT ground lineup. None of those premiums are better than the 2S38, though, so I'd wait for that one.
magic 2 arent quite as free as they were in its old MM. at 12.0 people are more used to seeing IRCCM. Still definitely strong and the only reason I'd even consider it. 530F gets chaffed by a single drop since it is a pulse missile.
@ yeah but most of them still don’t know how to flare it tho 99/100 time shot from the rear none of them flare it. And the 530 u just need to shoot at the low experience premium player like the f4s some of them won’t even take chaff XD
Bought the f4s. I went from a brand new account to already unlocking the f104 in under an hour. Just make sure you pick the shorter maps and carry bombs to bomb 2 bases
Heads up if and or when the f18 comes one is most certainly going to Finland aka the Swedish tree that’s worth remembering Also I’m confused the bison is on sale? I literally bought it yesterday (at a 50% discount of course)
Heads up the Bison is on sale
Seek will refuse to do basic math and count updates. Bison was added 4 patches ago, according to gaijin 3 patches.
I absolutely REFUSE to do math!
For a pack to be on sale it has to be at least 2 Updates old not 1 year!
At least 3, it has to be at least 3 major updates old.
They changed it to 2 updates with the rank 8 prems @@namespacestd131
The J7D is the only one I need in my life. Got killed by those things so many times when flying the Viggen.
For japan it's much better to buy rank IV or V premium or hunt for T-2 early, and then get F-5FCU which is a much better grinder than F4EJ anyways
Instructions unclear, bought the Tornado IDS WTD61
Very boring(ish), but grinds very efficiently. Definitely not my cup of tea, but gets the RP and SL, so that’s all that matters.
If youre ok with bombing bases and nothing else then its the right choice for you
@Truck_Company_84By far the most efficient and consistent RP and SL grinder in the game
I bought the f20 and i think its not that bad cuz u can use it in ground rb too + u will be in downtier 11.7-12.7 often cuz of the sales of mirage and things like that and if u know how to use correctly the f5c and the missiles. U can get 3-5 kills easely
I'm glad you're enjoying it. I personally like to avoid F-14ville whenever possible and I'd hate to pay for that experience lol.
@SeekerHead I completely understand but because I try as much as possible to flank the enemy team, usually I don't get fakoured. Things that I'm scared of are actually fox 3 but cuz of this, "sales downtier matchmaking" that I'm encountering it make this things quite good. I didn't want to go to the f5c cuz my aim is really bad so relying on my guns would have been complicated. Anyways I like ur video and pretty much agree with all u have said
I was gonna say I disagree with Italy because of the 104 (even though it's br mm sucks, but base bombing is VERY viable with two napalms if someone wants easy yet boring grinding) but I forgot they removed it.
HELL YEAH #1 J7D
Anyone looking to grind Russia I did it with the Su-25K and had an amazing time and did not base bomb. Now that the MiG-23 flight model has been nerfed to the ground I for sure recommend the Su. You can punish flareless planes with your missiles sure you won’t see as many as we used to but still happens. Also you just PUNISH the A-10 premium players. You can get so much of the tree done just buy killing A-10 premium beginners and the guns are amazing. Don’t let anyone on your 6 and you will have the tree done in no time. Love this plane
I actually do quite enjoy the Mirage F1C. I do think the missile loads are lack luster, but you can still get a nice chunk of RP gain from it IF you try and bomb a base. Like you said, most of the time people will get there before you. If thats the case, dump the bombs and go get two magic kills. Otherwise continue on to destroy the base plus two magic kills. Also the guns are very nice to use if you know how to dogfight with it. Just my experience with the plane at its current matchmaker.
I would have bought the f-5c or f-4s but I already finished USA air and ground so I bought the mig-21 bison
I’ll recommend these jets to play: In no particular order, English Electric Lightning, Tornado F.3, any Meteor, F-111C, both Jaguars, the Venom and The Sea Venom. Obviously the Jas39C and the Typhoon are on this list, but since they are the top tier jets, I figured you’d already be getting those. Some of these planes are not that good, I just do well in them and overall, many of them are beautiful airframes. I hope you enjoy the Bri’ish air tree as much as I am!
I love the F-4S. People always call me a Wallet Warrior but this Plane is so much fun.
funny thing is, if you get the f5c is that you wont be using the MISSiles (the 9E is not that good) that it has and use the guns more instead, STILL, great plane overral
J35XS is not on sale nor is the F4S
Because of anniversary bs
Bro one quick question. Is Great Britain worth grinding ? Or france tech tree ?
For air france is worth it, u gonna suffer low but after its enjoyable and great britain i heard its good in low and a little in high br
I don't personally think GB is too worth it as far as top tier jets go. Italy is the better choice if you want Eurofighter because you can also get other good top tier jets in the same tech tree.
@Rolkaa_ I think france is slightly better in top tier cuz of the mirage 2000, the f16 and the rafale
i believe ur wrong on the Av8s, its 200+ countermeasures help it alot, and so long as u dont stay on the deck, u can regain ur speed well enough, if u make sure u fight people who u can take on, the aim9ps are bassically 2 free kills against no flare players.
It’s pretty much a direct down grade of the US and British AV8. And it also won’t help with researching rank VIII vehicles
Nah the F1C is still very solid. Magic kills are essentially 2 free kills when you fire at the proper AoA, then you have what is now a solid gun fighter. 12.0 is a very solid matchmaker that doesn’t include a ton of full uptiers. You often fight 12.3 and lower. 12.7 is still getting sucked up into 13.7ish, although that will likely change. The bomb loadout is probably a 8/10 likely hood to bomb a base, since rockets got mega nerfed. No more F-4 base rocket CCIP sniping
I guess your match maker has been luckier than mine at 12.0
@@SeekerHeadI’ve definitely gotten in 13.0 ruts for sure, but I’ll just step away for an hour and then it’s like the matchmaker resets itself lol. Perhaps that’s just also the good ole Gaijin wearing me down and I gotta take a break to not notice the pain so much🥲
am i tripping or the video is 0:59 sec long, is it only for me? tf?
I tried cutting that portion out but did the opposite. FIxing it now
@@SeekerHeadmybe it can help you, it is 59 second again
Check now
@@SeekerHeadall good thank you
I love your vids keep it up
Thanks man
Bouta slap that decal on my F-15E
Why did you cut out the bison? It’s already on sale.
yeah thats my bad. I was under the impression it took a full year to be eligible for a sale, but it's 3 patches now.
bison is on sale lol
which techtree will you guys prefer usa germany france
France
USA is much more versatile and has a lot more. Some french jets are fun too but I would go for US first personally.
@@SeekerHead yeah there is a lot of versatile plane , i prefere french bc i got some bad experience as a f4s player and i dont want to play america for now and plus im french xd
all off them
I recently outdogfighted a MiG-23ML in a 15 Minute whole match EC map dogfight in a Premium Tornado
Okay
i like the french tech tree and ussr tech tree. so i'm between the two. i like the ussr tech tree a lot more so i'm kinda ser on getting the mig23 but i'm wondering if maybe it's better to wait for a new top tier france premium (or even squadron vechicle) or just wait for the next sale
I woid use the mig-23, the r24r's are free kills, even though it has a learning curve, I ggrindedd the user tree in 3 months.
@USAF_Ace ofc after test flying it I'm sure I'll enjoy those missiles a lot. I am ofc very used to fox-3 gameplay at this point but it should be fine
Is the sales on Xbox?
Should be all platform's
@ it’s not on there yet
Most likely will be there after the new year sales are gone, but the packs can be different from PC
@@МихаилВолков-м1к ahh ok thanks
Xbox sales are usually at late January
I'm so torn between f1c and j7d honestly, which tech tree (China or France) has more potential for the future? I don't really know what to expect (or even which new planes could be added) from both nations at toptier. I lowkey want both rafale and j-10 and no way im grinding through props for the 5th time XD Thoughts?!
China has more planes for top tier if you’re talking about potential. But the Rafael is quite good and has upgrades it can get down the line. Can’t go wrong with either right now. j7D itself is much more fun than mirage. Also noteworthy that china has a M2K in their tree
@@SeekerHead Thanks for replying seek, I appreciate it, probably gonna decide in few days lol have a nice day/night :D
unpopular opinion. f4ej adtw is a good premium
Hey im a fan!!!
bison is on sale since its over 2 updates old
my mistake
Is the raam segol on sale?
@1:51 maaan, I hate getting up-tiered to 12.7 in my F-5C lol
sorry, had a bit of a miss speak lol
my only top tier premium is the Mirage F1C and I can attest it's miserable as fuck to play
Bison is on sale
Brother its 3 am is your sleep schedule as cooked as mine 💀
Is mig21 bison worth it I have rank 5 Uk no premiums though
Yeah i would buy it if i were you
As someone with 1k games with the F20. Don't buy it.
Can it deliver those mavericks from space in ground rb?
I bought the f5c on steam but on war thunder it says I still need to order it pls help
I don't do WT through steam so I'm not sure. I would see if there's a reddit with your same problem and if not maybe contact Gaijin Support.
@@SeekerHead thanks, I have contacted gaijin support.
Any response yet?
@@SeekerHead nope
@@SeekerHead I finally got the f5c
should I get the bison🙃?
Remember there is a event vehicle coming in at 13.0 which will up tier it
If you MUST grind britain, that's definitely your best option right now for top tier packs. Not the greatest plane but it has 2 R73s and that makes it pretty consistsent for grinding. I don't find Britain too worth it right now though personally, all they really have is eurofighter.
@@SeekerHead and a gripen
bison is on sale me and my friend wanted to grind out Britain do you think its worth it?
I don't find britain to be the most worth it really, Italy has both of its only good top tiers (and in the grtipen's case - slightly better due to AMRAAMs) and then some, so I'd do that one instead. GB has some other unique planes at lower tiers though that are pretty fun though as well. Ultimately going to be what you think is most worth it of course.
@@SeekerHead welp me and my freind bought already got a pretty decent KD in it and rank 3 pretty happy with it
Good to hear you like it
So for rn, which tree is worth grinding, ussr or france🤔 cause both mig 23ml and mirage f1 are mid
France is better for air with the Rafale, while USSR has an amazing TT ground lineup. None of those premiums are better than the 2S38, though, so I'd wait for that one.
Why is this uplaoded at 4 am
Different time zones exist.
Ur tripping on f1c it is the best premium u can buy rn ( the magic 2 r two guaranteed kills the 530F is not that bad
Lies, the 530f is abysmal dog shit.
magic 2 arent quite as free as they were in its old MM. at 12.0 people are more used to seeing IRCCM. Still definitely strong and the only reason I'd even consider it. 530F gets chaffed by a single drop since it is a pulse missile.
@ yeah but most of them still don’t know how to flare it tho 99/100 time shot from the rear none of them flare it. And the 530 u just need to shoot at the low experience premium player like the f4s some of them won’t even take chaff XD
im tired of acting like i dont love the j35xs, thing slaps at its br if you know how to manage energy
For me this is only 1 Minute long, and it starts at sweden
Is it just me?
I tried to cut that part out and it seems I did the opposite. fixing now
I hear an E in J-7D I give it a pass.
Good Morning seek ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Morning
No console sale😊
Bought the f4s. I went from a brand new account to already unlocking the f104 in under an hour. Just make sure you pick the shorter maps and carry bombs to bomb 2 bases
Heads up if and or when the f18 comes one is most certainly going to Finland aka the Swedish tree that’s worth remembering
Also I’m confused the bison is on sale? I literally bought it yesterday (at a 50% discount of course)
japan top tier isnt original or anything, wait until they get new premium and F2
No, but their F-15s are best-inclass for both the A and C.
woah unlisted. I am the last person to comment on this video.
You're wrong.
Nope, it's back up. Just had to make some changes