BRITISH FAMILY REACTS: The Oklahoma City Bombing: America's Other Terrorist Attack!
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- Aidan, Gaynor and Sophie react to the story of the Oklahoma City bombing. How it was planned and the aftermath.
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I wish it would have shown the memorial. It’s gorgeous and the museum is wonderful.
I lived 20 miles away from OKC and we felt the shockwave that far away. A friend of mine survived the initial blast but went back into the building to help get people out. He died on one of those trips when a wall fell onto him inside the building. Definitely a sad time in our history. I would have preferred all responsible to be charged but I understand why they had to let some go into witness protection.
Were there so many others involved? How many went into the W.P.P.? I'm sorry that this all hit you so personally.
@@albertmarnell9976 2 that I remember. The husband and wife after they served their sentences.
@@nancyankrom3803 Thank You Nancy
His reasons for the bombing don't really make sense. Why kill innocent men, women and children to protest a small number of government workers. Not everyone working for government had anything to do with Ruby Ridge or Waco. In both cases we know that both incidents escalated because of gun fire aimed at the government workers sent to investigate reports of large quantities of weapons being held there. What happened in both cases did not have to.go down like that, but in each case the perps or victims decided to die rather than face possible arrest.
I was stationed in OKC at Tinker AFB when this occurred. Although I was on leave in TX visiting family on the day it occurred, I was part of the cleanup crew and had someone in my unit that perished in the bombing (she was there getting a new Social Security Card since she had just gotten married). Thanks for covering this.
Hey I remember watching her story on The News. The News had talked about Her going to the Federal building to get a New Social Security Card because she had just gotten married.
It was 1995 I was in Middle School may be 7th? 8th grade but that one along with the story of the baby boy P.J. found in The Rubble, of the Day Care Center.
OKC Bombing occurred her New Husband was waiting to see if she would be found.
I had hope the family healed as best they could after that mind-numbing horror.
They did show you the picture that everyone remembers, because we can’t forget, of a firefighter carrying the lifeless body of a little child in his arms. 😢 That’s not all she was…..she was all of our children. Please know that. ❤
No, she wasn't. That poor dead child in the picture with the firefighter was used as a symbol. Used by a reporter, without the parent's approval and shown to millions of people and used as a symbol. Unknowingly used to traumatize the parent's of that child each and every time they saw that picture in their day to day life.
Do you really think that the parent's give a shit about what other people think of their, now deceased daughter? No.
If anything, I imagine they'd would have preferred being asked if that picture should be allowed to be shown on TV or the newspaper, to have a conscious choice in whether or not THEIR daughter gets used as some reporter's stepping stone and used as the symbol for what happened.
Now ask yourself, if you were the parent of that dead little girl... would you like it if she was paraded around on TV or the newspaper? To be shown off as if she's just an object in a picture? Then you have to suffer the trauma of seeing YOUR daughter, dead each and every time you look at TV or come across a newspaper?
The answer would be: No. Because no parents ever wants to see their child dead or be constantly have it shoved in their face as the family had for who knows how long.
If your claim of "She was all of our children" was true, I think people have pushed for that picture to be removed, immediately. It's incredibly disgraceful and has likely done untold damage to the family and the dead, despite having died already.
I would have sued the reporter, his place of work and done everything in my power to get MY daughter off the paper and TV, as she isn't an object to be used for the media. She's a human being and deserves dignity, even in death.
To be fair I do remember a lot of people being angry about that picture and wanting it to be removed. In fact, I don't know anyone who liked that picture. I don't think support is ever unwanted by any parent. Saying a child belongs to everyone isn't a bad thing. I wish everyone truly believed that. Maybe there would be less child murder, or children being neglected. That being said I feel for the parents and they have every right not to see that terrible picture and have a constant reminder. They have enough of that in their own minds.
@@okairofreedom of the press. They can print as they choose. But I don't believe the picture was posted with any malice. It was used to show the horror and aftermath of a monster. In the face of tragedy no one is thinking clearly.
"A fire broke out" is a very nice way of explaining what happened in Waco, which was that ATF agents started pumping so much gas into the compound (which had already been riddled with bullets for weeks), that it caught fire and everyone inside burned to death, including children.
No they didn't.
We will never really know what happened in that building. Both sides have good logic points but lack neutral data. All we have is opinion and propaganda
@@jackkrauss yes they did
@@jackkraussYeah they did, bootlicker. They ATF went down there looking to make themselves heroes after they murdered a boy and his mother up at Ruby Ridge.
I'm a life-long Oklahoman and this event had a major impact on me. I was 22 at the time. Our television stations showed nothing but live coverage related to the bombing for over a week, 24/7. Daina Bradley, the woman who had to have her leg amputated to get her out of the building, was only there to get a social security card for her newborn baby. She was with her mother, her baby boy, and her 3-year-old daughter. She is the only one who made it out alive. There are so many stories of people who were there that day, and each of them is terrifying and heartbreaking. I still recall many of their names, especially those of the children and their parents and grandparents. I saw the building shortly before they finished the recovery and took the rest of it down, and I've been to the memorial and museum several times. It is something I will not ever forget. Unfortunately, the radicalization that drove McVeigh is even more prominent today than it was in 1995, and that's truly frightening.
You're right so much radicalization from Trump supporters and Q-Anan supporters all have hatred for the government and gun-laws...basically the same beliefs as Timothy McVeigh.
I noticed so much Radicalization on Social media and crazy white supremacy.
Timothy McVeigh was Trump supporters and Q-Anan/ White Nationalist, alt-right before social media.
It's crazy how so meny have been Indoctrinated.
Yea', that radicalization is derived off of the left: democrats, anti-fa, blm, feminists, & lgbtwtf.
I agree with your last point and yes it is frightening but don’t be afraid. The likelihood of a dying by terrorist is like getting struck by lightning (doesn’t take away the human suffering and death I know) and also our security is stronger. A lot of the stuff used to make bombs is more monitored.
When I hear those on the right calling for another civil war, I feel sick to my stomach. They have no idea what they're asking for.
So sad. My wife’s first cousin passed in the bombing.
I remember them bringing us into the library at school to watch the news coverage of this in elementary school. Back then anything considered global news like that was shown in schools, even to kids. One of our neighbors was from Oklahoma and their nephew ended up coming to live with them because his Mom worked at this building and was sucked out of the room she was in and onto the street by the blast. She wasn't killed immediately but sustained a lot of bad injuries from burns and flying out of the building and later passed from complications from one of many surgeries she had to go through before passing. Unfortunately, McVeigh's rhetoric is still very alive and well here in the USA.
Thankfully the ones that are that extreme are on life support. There's extremes on all sides, but out in the everyday society, we're seeing a shift towards the middle. We aren't seeing it on the news, but when you go out and actually TALK to people, they are shifting towards the middle. And I am thankful for that
For good reason, so long as the ATF continues to opposite outside the law thanks to "qualified immunity", there will always be folks rightfully pissed at the Feds for not reigning in their out of control three letter agencies.
For good reason, so long as the ATF continues to opposite outside the law thanks to "qualified immunity", there will always be folks rightfully pissed at the Feds for not reigning in their out of control three letter agencies.
I was about a mile from the blast when it happened. We knew something bad had happened but we didn't know what. We all stuck our heads out of our office doors like "what was that???" I thought a boiler had exploded in our building or something because it was that big of a shake. Terrible crime. The OKC bombing memorial is very moving and I have a hard time not shedding a few tears every time I go there. Especially when I see those tiny little chairs representing the children that were killed.
Lived there at the time.....heartbreaking...... the museum and Memorial that now stands is amazing and well done. You enter into a room set up to copy the boardroom across the street and hear the audio recording of their meeting when the bomb explodes and then the doors open and your hear more audio of screams and sirens and first responders...it's one of four places I've left just speechless. 1) the Oklahoma City Memorial, 2) 9-11 Memorial 3), German concentration camps, and the 4) the Peace Memorial at the site of the Hiroshima A-Bomb
I visited the OKC memorial about 6 yrs ago, left me speechless.
Of the four places you mentioned, I have only been to Hiroshima (though I had been to NYC pre-9/11). Truly a sobering experience. The museum is full of interesting stuff and very informative. The surrounding park and its memorials are striking. All over the city there are remnants of the aftermath, and you get the sense that the city and its people are, in a way, still struggling to move forward -- that they don't really want to be associated with the identity of "the city that got nuked," but they know how important it is for humanity that we remember.
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I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma not far from OKC. Despite being 6 years of age at the time,... I remember this day vividly. So horrible this day was. No matter how much time passes, prayers will always go towards the people that lost family, friends and loved ones.
This was an absolute tragedy. I'm glad you guys are covering it.
I was about 7 when this happened and only overheard bits on TV news. I just remember being very upset that babies and toddlers were killed. I was not even thinking about me. I was in school, but my younger siblings went to a nursery school for a few hours some mornings so I associated this with them at the time. There were 21 kids in the daycare in that building and 15 of them died.
I have another set of much younger siblings. The OKC Bombing, Columbine, and 9/11 was a discussion we had on differences between Millennial and Gen Z childhoods.
I remember all of these clearly. Columbine affected me tremendously even through the media
The parents of one of the victims of Columbine was gifted a sprout from the beautiful tree that survived the okc blast. They planted it in their yard and it is just as beautiful as the original
Mcvie once said that he had no idea there was a daycare center right above where he parked the truck with the bomb. Most federal buildings have a daycare center for the employees to drop their kids off if they so desire. I tend to believe him on this one fact as most people do not realize that there is a daycare in the same building where federal employess work if you never worked for the federal government.
"I understand what they felt in Oklahoma City. I have no sympathy for them,"
McVeigh said, "I recognized beforehand that someone might be … bringing their kid to work. However, if I had known there was an entire day-care center, it might have given me pause to switch targets. That's a large amount of collateral damage."
Jim Denny, whose two children were injured, insisted the day-care center was visible. "You could see that day-care center from the street, from the sidewalk," he says. "You could see cribs. You could see drawings in the windows."
Dr. John Smith, a psychiatrist who evaluated McVeigh for the defense, said McVeigh admitted he had seen a crib inside the building from afar.
He also stated McVeigh said he had zero regrets, he only wished the dead children didn't distract people from his message, and he felt no pity for the victims or their families.
There was footage of him walking through the building right past the daycare. He knew it was there.
My cousins where suppose to be there that afternoon . I thank god they where not there at the time . We have toured the museum, they have a room you go in . You get to listen to the meeting that was being recorded as the bomb goes off . It’s so sad to listen to the screams that’s being recorded and the sound of the bomb going off
I was in 5th grade in Oklahoma City. My teacher had let me go off to read a book on my own because I had already done all my schoolwork for the morning. I was reading "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" when the blast went off. The windows shaked and a couple books fell off the shelf on top of me. We were miles from downtown yet I will never forget the sound of that explosion.
I went through the museum they established next to the memorial, and I never realized how much attention the bombing got outside of the US. Apparently reporters flocked to the US after hearing about it. There's even a room where they loop it being reported on foreign news channels.
The memorial & museum there is in fact an absolutely beautiful. Being from both Scotland & US, I've studied much since many of these videos are surfacing again & it really has me scratching my head, as it has me questioning if McVeigh could have truly pulled this off on his own. The leg found as the commentaor was saying has been brought to light as being matched to another with McVeigh, & him not being the only one, but just chose to take credit for the horrific act mostly due to his hatred over what occurred at Waco. I was actually in Tulsa when this occurred & it could be felt there & I lost several people to this as well. Thank you for the video & may we never forget. ❤🩹
The memorial is very moving. When we got to the part that had a momento from each person that died, and you see the tiny shoes and toys, it really hit us. There were 4 children, ages 2-4 years, who were playing and someone chastised them. My emotions were very triggered and I told that person to leave them alone. We were looking at the evidence of parents who wished their children could run around and make noise.
On April 15th, here in America, it will mark the 10 year anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombing. You should do a reaction to this. To honor all those who tragically lost their life that day, and to all those who were injured (myself included).
The first responders, emts, doctors, police, FBI, and ordinary people all raced in to save lives. We need to honor them, and never forget their sacrifice. 😇
The Witness Protection part is an element which makes someone otherwise unlikely to cooperate in helping to convict the bigger perpetrators. If you remove it, fewer will do so.
Absolutely, we see it many times where the prosecutors don't have enough to try a case or a risk where the defendant may win case. It makes perfect sense.
@@EMD1028 Henry Hill, the subject of 'Goodfellas,' receiving, in part, witness security following his reduced prison term lead to the crippling of one of the most powerful divisions of New York mafia families, for example.
He's a murderer, robber, etc.,, bit the tradeoff in convicting the more vicious killers and management levels more than justifies things.
You guys put out so many videos n I love all of them. I love your reaction best of all
I have lived in western Oklahoma all my life. I remember where I was and what I was doing when this happened. I was a Senior I high school. The guys were in the gym playing basketball when one of our female classmates came in and told us the federal building had just been bombed. We stopped playing for a minute and asked if anybody was hurt and if they knew who did it. She said there wasn't much details but it was already all over the national news and that everyone was watching in some if the class rooms. We went to the locker room and cleaned up. A few stayed in the gym. I remember thinking there was just a hole in the wall or something. We couldn't believe our eyes when we saw half of the building was gone. Everyone just sat silence. It was a scary surreal moment I will never forget. I've only been to the bombing memorial once but it is a surreal experience. I would love to see you guys watch a video of the bombing memorial. It is very sad but also educational.
Born and raised in OKC and this was one of those moments I will never forget. It was an incredibly sad time in the city's history but it also brought out the best in the community, that's where the term "Oklahoma Standard" came from.
McVeigh had three issues: 1) anger about Waco, 2) anger at Ruby Ridge, and 3) he was a decorated, highly capable Army soldier (sharpshooter) and applied to be a Special Forces operative. He had all the qualifications on paper but a bad, injured ankle caused him to fail the SF test. They encouraged him to heal up and reapply and he was likely to become a Special Forces in the next year. He could not or would not wait and made bad decisions that cost his life and many other lives.
With his merits i would give him benefit of the doubt.. You dont know what kind of intel he or ( they) may have
Its not like demoncratic party today among blm and antifa who are turning USA into South Africa.
=Failed criminal runned state.
Witness protection was probably the only incentive they could offer them to get them to testify.
I was in 5th grade and still remember this being on every channel. I sat down with my mom and we both cried. I couldn't comprehend that someone would purposely hurt so many children like me. It changed my perception of the world
The whole event was just beyond awful and tragic. 😢My heart breaks for that poor mother who was traumatized by the use of the photo of her baby. That photo was widely circulated and shown on tv countless times. 😔
I was in school. PE class. We were outside running when a (At the time to me) huge mushroom cloud and a large shockwave hit us. We were so young that we had no idea what it was. But, a kid in the class said I think thats were my mom works. Then I realized that's where my mom works too. After that we were sent home and just watched the news. Luckily neither his or my mom were in the building. In Oklahoma you get used to disaster, we have bad weather, tornadoes that crush whole towns. But, this was a new, different kind of scary/painful.
My Uncle RIP was a doctor and he was part of the rescue as well. I'd never seen him more devastated by what he had seen.
I visited the memorial site with my two sons several years ago. It is sobering and beautiful.
My mom lost her aunt, cousin, and her other cousins fiancé that day. I think I was 9? I just remember my mom answering the phone and She just went white as a sheet. No one knew at first if they made it or not. It took a few days before they were found. She was gone for a month to help her uncle and cousin. Because they had just lost all the women in their family in one fell swoop. It was heartbreaking. They are still affected by the loss to this day.
I live about 2 and a half hours northwest of Oklahoma City, where the bombing took place. I was one month shy of 4 years old when this bombing happened.
The surgeon that had to remove the woman’s leg was actually named Dr. Andy Sullivan. He was my orthopedic surgeon when I was really young, mainly to do with my Scoliosis.
I lived in a suburb of Oklahoma City when this happened. I was 6 years old, and yet I still remember it as clearly as yesterday. Even though we were miles away, the ground shook enough to make my 7 year legs trip. I told my mom that I thought it was a bomb and she said "I'm sure it wasn't, don't worry." Later that day she had to sit me down and tell me I was right, and that it was a bomb. Wild stuff.
i was 8 blocks away and didnt 'trip'.....
@@h.s.lafever3277 I was 6 running around the house lol
Yeah my mom was a secretary on the south side and said she felt the floor shake.
I was 10 yrs old when this happened, and I lived in Shawnee, OK at the time. The bomb was so insane that we could feel it 20 miles away. When I was visiting my father, we went by the building before it was torn down, and my father said, "This is what real horror looks like. This is what real people do to hurt others."
The 1st part of this video is already inaccurate. There wasn't just one person, there was 2. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. Timothy openly said, "Yes, I did it." Whereas Terry spent years saying he didn't do it. Until he was moved out of Oklahoma penitentiary and moved into Colorado penitentiary, where he confessed to assisting Timothy in bombing the building. He knew if he confessed in Oklahoma, he wouldn't live long enough to see tomorrow
Had he been able to go with his original plan, it’s said that he likely would’ve collapsed the whole building from the explosion. His original plan was to park the truck in the underground garage underneath the building, but when he got there the truck was too tall to fit into the underground parking section so he had to improvise and parked it in a drop-off zone where the edge of the building stood over it. So the truck was parked at ground level just underneath the edge of the building, which is why it still caused that front face of the building to collapse.
I remember watching the coverage of this and realizing I recognized the building. The year before, I'd passed by it at least a dozen or more times when I was driving for a living. We had a yard there in OKC and during our down times, friends and I would just get one of the company cars and cruise around town, seeing what there was to do, what there was to see.
Bear in mind in regards to letting someone out of prison and putting them into witness protection, that it's not just to protect that person from getting murdered, but it's also to prevent another person from ruining their life by committing murder in an act of vengeance. Yes, it definitely sucks when someone who should be behind bars gets protected, but the goal is to prevent those who are grieving to end going to prison, themselves.
Thats the problem. Family SHOULD be able to take the life of someone that stole a life from them. That should be an absolute guarantee.
It wasn't easy for him to procure the nitromethane, as he was turned down repeatedly by multiple providers due to not being licensed. One crooked douchebag that cared more about being paid than doing something highly illegal is all it took, however, like with so many other events throughout history.
I remember when this happen. It was unheard of at the time. The thought of the children that died in the daycare inside the building is heartbreaking.
An old High School friend has a BBQ restaurant in OKC, after the bombing we were carrying free lunches to the rescue and recovery crews. The scene was breathtaking to look at the building and rubble.
My mother was supposed to be in that building that day. She and my grandmother were going to get documents because my mom had just gotten married to my dad. They ended up not going that day because my mom told my grandmother she had a bad feeling. My mom has always had crazy intuition. I've seen her avoid some dangerous things because she says she gets a bad feeling before something happens, which she then decides not to do. I was born April 18th 1997, one day before the 2 year anniversory. My youngest sister was named Bailey in honor of the little girl in the firefighters arms. I'm so thankful my mom listened to her intuition and decided not to go because if she had been there I would not be here.
I don't remember the OKC bombing, I was a child then, but I remember the 10+ years of fear of Ryder trucks that was around the nation. Some places made it illegal to park such vehicles in certain places.
I had traveled to Tulsa that day to pick out a tux for my Senior Prom when I learned about the bombing in OKC on the radio. From that point on there was constant TV coverage. I distinctly remember later that day when they showed McVeigh being transported by the police with a bulletproof vest on and the crowd booing and jeering at him.
When this happened I was a single mom of 3 children 8, 6 and 4 yrs old. Seeing the pic of the young child shook me to my core and I remember thinking if something ever happened to one of my children I wouldn't be able to go on in life. Sadly on June 17th, 1995, less than 2 months later, my 4 yr old daughter died in a drowning accident. I've never fully recovered because part of me died with her that day......
I think as a nation we will never have closure for this horrific act. It cuts to deep.
This is one of the major events which changed the laws and also changed laws in other countries about buying ingredients that could potentially be used for bomb, drug, or weapon making purposes.
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I work at the Oklahoma City airport at the time and felt the blast vibrate through the floor. During the next year, I became friends with a couple whos 2 children were in the daycare on the 2nd floor and were 2 of 3 children to survived but the little boy suffered brain damage do to a peice of concrete embedded in his head. The last time I saw those kids, they walked in a restaurant me and my wife were in and ran over and hugged me.
I remember seeing several news stories about that family.
I live in Oklahoma and did at the time too. I lived about an hour away from the bombing site, but we felt the concussion of the explosion. He was pulled over for an issue with his car tags or turn signal or something. His picture had been sent out on an app a pig farmer had developed, cell phones were very different then. Because of the app, police across the state had his photo so when he was pulled over the traffic officer recognized him.
People are still affected by this, everytime we drive past you just get this horrible feeling, many of my family members were around the city or even inside the city when this happened
I was living in my hometown of Little Rock, Arkansas at the time, and it came out later on that McVeigh had looked at the Simmons Bank building in Little Rock before he settled on Oklahoma City. Here is the Wikipedia article:
"Timothy McVeigh scouted out the building as a possible bombing location prior to bombing the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. He would decide against bombing the building due to the presence of a florist's shop on the ground floor at the time."
I have family in Oklahoma City and have been to the bombing site, but not in the museum itself. The Simmoms building is 40 stories tall, and history would have been quite different if it had been selected instead of the Murrah building.
I am mixed about the witness protection. On one hand I would like those people to have vigilante justice happen to them but on the other hand I see why it's there. It's a tool to get groups people to break quickly. I mean there are a lot of crimes that would have never been solved or justice served is the entire group had just remind tight lip on the subject but with the threat of anyone could turn on the group and the first to tell is the first rewarded.
I remember exactly where I was that day. I was on the 7th floor of the Bank of Oklahoma building on 71st and Yale in Tulsa. What a terrible day! 😢
I live 5 miles from the Murray building and the blast shook my house. One of our family friends and her son was killed in the daycare center and it took years before any of my family could bring ourselves to go to the Memorial site.
I was actually living in Oklahoma at the time when this happened. I remember feeling the ground and the house shake. I thought it was an earthquake. When I turned on the news, sadly I found out what really happened. ☹
My mother worked for the Department of Agriculture in Oklahoma City, so hearing the initial news freaked me out. But she worked for the State Department of Agriculture, not the federal, which I didn't realize at the time. I lived out of state, so it took me hours to get through on the overloaded phone lines.
She did know many of the Federal Department of Agriculture workers who were killed however, since there's a lot of connection between them. My brother donated a lot of blood, every chance he got, since he's O-.
I lived 2 miles from the Murrah building when the bombing happened. I still live in okc. Anytime I go downtown, I still see pieces of the Murrah building embedded in the buildings that was close to the Murrah building. I still cannot stand to hear that monster's name nor will I say that name. I still panic at the sound of loud thunder, but only the kind that's so loud that it shakes the windows because it sounds so much like that bomb. That was a moment that I will never forget for as long as I live. I can't imagine being in the building, but when it happened, I was taking a bath with plans to go there to try to get a job.
I was at work 3 miles to the Northeast of the blast. It shook our 4 story office building. We had an open atrium that you could see downtown OK City. There was a large gray skinny mushroom cloud rising over downtown. I went back to my office and called my Family back in Kansas to tell them I was alright. They had no idea what I was talking about. Radios and TV's were on and we were told to stay in the building and stay off our phones. Lots of rapid warnings of which none were real. A lady on our floor's husband was in the building of the blast and she could not reach him. She did 5 hours after the blast.
It was surreal. Everyone was quiet, worried. Later on May 4th I went to the site. You could stand on the corner where the YMCA was. There was a tree there that had blast damage. It was a crazy scene.
Everyday I went to work, by the elevator, there was a flyer, Donate gloves, donate blood, donate batteries, everyday it was different. That went on 3 months.
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I wasn't really aware of the building until it was destroyed because we never had a reason to visit it. So, seeing it intact is a first for me. It reminds me of those used in the 1976 or 1977 movie, "Logan's Run".
This is the first time that I've seen that white "Ryder" truck! The ones we were shown were the typical moving vans.
The blast woke me up, but the house didn't seem to be in danger, so I resumed sleeping.
This event and 9/11, well, I know people that said that they were almost there, but something kept them from going.
I don't know what Sophie is smiling about throughout this. You all damn sure won't find anyone here in OKC smiling about the tragedy. Here it is 28 years later, and it still hits home with lots of people here. I didn't know anyone who died in it, but I have a friend who lost TWO friends, one of which wasn't recovered for three weeks later, sitting at his desk with his head crushed. Th guy's poor wife was a basket case from that. And even if you didn't know someone killed in it, most likely you know someone who DID know someone killed in it. Yeah, it was two years to the day after the Waco incident.
This is wrong in a few parts, Waco and ruby ridge played a huge part, and timothy wasn't alone and its easily known there was way more to it than the stuff said. Timothy also didn't ask to be removed from army, he failed to make special forces and was let go.
Go Gaynor! It always burns me up that our society is too weak-livered to do the right thing and end these monsters' reign of terror. With all the rights prisoners get they write books about their crazy, murderous actions and MAKE MONEY!! All the while we're paying to feed, clothe, house and keep them under better medical care than the average law-abiding citizen gets!
The story about the doctor having to amputate that woman's leg reminds me of the James Franco film "127 Hours" which is based on a true story about a solo hiker in my home state of Utah, who ended up getting pinned in a canyon by a boulder, and was stuck there for 127 hours, before he finally cut off his own arm using a cheap, dull, Chinese army knife...
Hell of a movie and story!
Why the hell did he go alone?
I would never ever go hiking like that alone
I lived and worked in OKC at that time and I was in Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building the day before McVeigh parked a rented Ryder truck in front of the building and blew it up. I was in the shop that day located a few blocks away from the federal building and thought the crane putting a new AC unit on the roof of the 4 story building next door dropped the AC unit falling to the ground or the crane itself fell over...
I was in the 8th grade in Shawnee, Oklahoma (30 miles east of Oklahoma City) don’t remember the aftershock. I’ll never forget when they caught him in Perry and the people shouting at him on TV.
It was my dads birthday. I worked evenings and was dead asleep. I lived 5 miles away and Iit woke me from a dead sleep. I had a fiend that worked at the Journal Record newspaper right across the street but wasn't at work at the time. It was horrible.
I was in college when this happened. The first image on my TV was that overhead helicopter shot of a large building with half of it gone.
I was a kid when this happened, so I didn’t understand all the causes behind it at the time. My aunt worked in that building and just happened to be gone during the bombing, so she was spared.
I was really young when this happened so idk that i payed that much attention but I do remember hearing about the daycare inside and seeing the whole side of the building blown out like that is infamous in my mind.
"The best thing at killing humans is humans, by far." - Jordan Peterson
When I was little I went to my Dads office their. Fortunately he had retired but was still friends with many who died
Killed all those innocent people/children and destroyed the lives of family and friends they knew, and yet some people on the jury don’t believe Nichols should get the death penalty. I will NEVER understand that type of thinking. Just absolutely unbelievable.
Our Intel agencies blew it up. They found unexplored bombs in the building… it was supposed to be completely demolished. More than a few experts have admitted that the truck bomb wouldn’t have been able to do the damage it did. It was clearly a psyop used to justify the FBI murdering kids at Waco.
Totally agree 👍
Even if he got the death penalty there’d never be any guarantee he’d get executed. Due to the years of endless appeals and hearings (I’m pretty sure McVeigh waved them hence why it was very fast with him).
Not to mention that many people just don’t believe in the death penalty and being responsible for taking someone’s life no matter what the person did.
I completely understand/agree with the emotion behind it but factually it costs WAY MORE money to execute a prisoner than it does to house them for the rest of their life in maximum security. There are MANY other issues with the death penalty and how it's applied but just wanted to point out the bit about the cost factor because it's a WIDELY held misconception.
You are correct, and it is surprising that not many people are aware of that.
There’s also the endless hearings and appeals that drag on for years too
I was in 3rd grade in Collinsville, OK when it happened. My dad looked the sketch of the suspect before they caught McVeigh. He got a lot of teasing from his coworkers about it
You can make mustard gas from regular cleaning chemicals…regulating things can be difficult
fun fact: his first target was the building I worked in in Battle Creek but it had too many stairs (in his defense, there are a lot of them)
Earlier...Waco siege February 28 and April 19, 1993. The government burned down the compound with many children.
That's incorrect.
@@t0dd000 It's absolutely correct. There's video of the feds knocking a hole in the compound with a battering ram attached to an armored vehicle, then spraying the inside of the compound with something, moments before the entire place was completely engulfed.
Expert testimonials later went on record saying the feds were using a tear gas they knew was highly flammable, turned into cyanide gas upon ignition, and would likely cause the fireball effect considering the high winds blowing in the direction of the entry point.
That, along with the conveniently missing evidence that was recorded and cataloged but somehow lost during the investigation, plus the pictures of the dead children whose bodies were bent backwards with their spines broken from muscle spasms due to cyanide poisoning, should cause any reasonable person to see that the Feds were sending another message, just like with randy Weaver's family.
My brother was in Oklahoma City that morning with a booth at a tool show. He was going to go to the bank in that building that morning. But decided to wait until the afternoon.
“juss kill ‘em all”
I SECOND THAT👏🏽
I lived in the regency tower across from the bombing memorial on the 17th floor in 2000 to 2004 my neighbors lost their granddaughter in the bombing little Bailey
It was BOTH Ruby Ridge AND Waco that he said he was going to "atone for.' 🙄 He was a whack job! I was school when this happened. (Lifelong Okie) 3 days after my birthday. 5th grade.
Years later, I'd be the one to notify my school of the 9/11 attacks. I was late driving to school and heard it on the radio, ran in told the 1st teacher I saw and she notified the office. Its awful.
I can attest, as a farmer's daughter, it is much more difficult now to get fertilizer (except chicken litter). It wasnt easy back then either, the people that should have turned him in failed. There were regulations THEN! Its more robust now.
You should react to the song Garth Brooks did about this event called "The Change". He is from Oklahoma
Being from okc and only twelve blocks away this was a tough day
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The following Department of Justice actions occurred during Janet Reno's tenure:
The 51-day Waco siege standoff and resulting 76 deaths-the Branch Davidians-in Waco, Texas. (The standoff began on February 28, 1993, twelve days before Reno was installed as attorney-general.) Reno in congressional testimony stated that she authorized the FBI assault on the Branch Davidians because of reports that militia groups were en route to Waco during the standoff "either to help [Branch Davidian leader David] Koresh or to attack him."[48] The FBI had also, erroneously reported to Reno that children were being abused at the compound.[49] Reno publicly expressed her regret of the decision to storm the compound, and accepted full responsibility for the loss of life.[50]
I was 11 when this happened. And I was a weird kid who liked to watch the news so I saw plenty of pictures and videos of the devastation. I do have to admit, that the image of the firefighter carrying the little girl was one that I have no memory of seeing. Perhaps the news stations in my state decided to hold that image back. Or perhaps I blocked it out. Timothy's name was everywhere for years. you couldn't turn around without hearing it while his trial was going on. in Tv, the radio, the adults at home and school.
I actually live like 15 minutes away from the house where the guy made his plans and bombs. Used to have to drive by it every couple of days while driving to college.
Will always remember this as it was my birthday. Along with Waco and The Shot Heard Around The World.
I was teaching school in Oklahoma City the day of the bombing.
Scary and sad day.
Ironically my grandpa and his brothers were coyote blasters (they made tunnels in rocky cliffs for roads or train rails) and faced massive scrutiny over purchases for their work because of this incident. After gramps died in 2014, I found boxes and boxes of tnt they had stored to avoid restrictions. My gramps was mentally slow, but had the disposition of Mr Rogers (just love and affection for everyone). It was a weird situation for me. Dangerous things are dangerous in the wrong hands… but laws don’t distinguish that. At the same time, groups try to destroy laws that determine who the wrong types are, so I’m on both sides of this
My grandmother had an appointment that day in the hospital building next to it but her car broke down so she wasn’t able to make. The guy who did it was also executed the day I was born.
Don't feel bad. We Americans mix up Waco and Ruby Ridge all the time as well.
I've never mixed those up. They couldn't be more different senarios. The only similarity is the Feds. They're not from here though.
There was a photo in all the news outlets of a firefighter carrying out the lifeless body of a little girl named Baylee. One of my friends named her daughter Baylee to honor that little girl, even though she had no connection to the family or even to Oklahoma.
I was living in Georgia (state, not country) when this happened, but I'm a native Oklahoman. The initial report suspected a "Middle Eastern man in a brown GMC pickup." My (ex)father-in-law is an Irani immigrant who was working at the GM plant and, yes, owned a brown GMC pickup. We called him and old him the Feds were looking for him and to stay home. Thankfully, they were wrong about the suspect....
I now live in OKC and visit the memorial often. Beautiful and sad at the same time.
This is beyond heartbreaking. Putting criminals on witness protection especially on this scale is a joke.
It’s protect them for others committing retaliation against them
I was 2 or 3 hours from this and we felt the blast as well. I was 10
one of the pictures on the news I remember was a burly firefighter holding a tricycle from the daycare center and crying.
Everyone has stories, some were there many not. But one thing is for sure, we still stand, tall and stronger.
9:01 - 9:03 is a really impactful symbol. The time before peace, and the time of rehealing and rebuilding.
I was in OKC when tht happened. Tht was really scary.
I would assume the guy who was given witness protection was given it as a condition he requested as part of his agreement to testify. So if you feel like you either give it to him or let McVeigh live, witness protection might be the lesser evil.