In the mean time I tried to fix the table, and that is in this video: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html 'How (not) to pour epoxy'. If you want to know what happend with the table, check it out!
@Fake Reality - Why spray clear? In fact I coated the boards with one first pour (I should have put a bit of epoxy on the wood too). So I agree that you should treat everything you pour in first. But it can be done with epoxy as well - see the new video.
@Los Kr34ck - No idea. It's not something that is on my mind. People here told me I could sell it for thousands, even tens of thousands, but I don't know. I haven't got the channels for that and am not that interested in selling. It's OK where it is, in my small showroom in front of my workshop. 😊
Thanks for watching my video! *PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE COMMENTING* Answering most stated comments: *- Put a glass top over it* Yeah, good suggestion and I might consider, but the ugly spots won't go away with that.. Update: after getting this suggestion over 200 times (really!) I feel I have to elaborate now on this. I will NOT put a glass plate on top. I've got it worked out by now and want to try to fix the ugly and soft spots by carefully removing layers and pour epoxy in again. I know now three things I could have done better / different. Like most what I do the fixing too will be an experiment to learn from, so I will definitely make a video of it, titled 'how (not) to pour epoxy'. 😊 Wait for it. 😊 *- Just pour one new layer epoxy over the whole table* Could do that, but again, the ugly spots won't go away with that, and second I don't like the look of wood underneath epoxy that much... Covering wood in epoxy for me is something like making plastic out of something natural.. *- Cut out the center, put in a new bottom and start new* I will certainly not do that. I've just so many other things I want to make.. *- You should have poured thinner layers* The specs of the epoxy said I could pour 5 cm at once. I did maybe 1,5 cm. Most is fine. I screwed up the mixing. *- You should have mixed the epoxy like this ... method, or like this ...* Hey, I know I SCREWED UP the mixing. Thanks for reminding me. 😉😉 I will take your advice and do better next time. I promise. *- What if one LED dies? How will you fix that? You should add solar to charge the batteries* You haven't watched the whole video, now have you? I know everybody skips parts of videos, but skipping the essential parts makes you ask stupid questions... 😁😁 *- You're better in converting buses* Ok, I confess, I made that comment up. 😆😆
great idea and you really did a great job. im not sure if other people mentioned these two help-full hints. **to eliminate having uncured spots in the epoxy** - combine the two parts of epoxy required in a clean container and mix for half of the time indicated in the instructions. then transfer the epoxy to a different new clean container and continue to mix for the exact remaining time required. pour as soon as the required mixing time is completed. when mixing- stir the product as fast as you can BY HAND without adding allot of air or bubbles into the mixture. make sure to scrape the sides of the container during the mixing and when your transferring from the first to second container. when pouring out of the second container onto your project DO NOT scrape the sides. **to eliminate bubbles in the finished product** - use a heat gun and pass back and forth in a even sweeping motion over the epoxy as soon as you finish pouring out the epoxy. when the epoxy is warmed you will see the bubbles move to the surface and with each pass of the heat source the bubbles should "pop" and disappear.
@@goednieuwskrantje-nl It may be that at the edge of the container is still unmixed resin. If you dump it in a new container and do not scratch it, you avoid that this resin is being poured with it
I made my kitchen island in a wood top and did epoxy. The heat was the trick. I used a propane torch. I did several layers. It looks like a sheat of glass. I hope he does it again. I know that epoxy is not cheap though.
@@goednieuwskrantje-nl In the original container, a lot of unmixed epoxy liquid can stick to the sides and bottom, especially in the corners. When you put it into a new container, the unmixed liquid sticking to the sides of the original container will tend to pour out last, and in doing so will be poured directly into the middle of the new container. This trick really works.
Fantastic idea! I'm a retired Printed Circuit Board Designer. You gave me an idea, do this but with all the PCBs I've designed since the 1980s. A coffee table to be proud of in more ways than one.
I had the same exact thought. A lot of UA-camrs only want to share their perfect attempts. You tend to learn the most from mistakes especially when someone else makes them first. LOL Great video. Being an Electrical Engineering I am particularly biased.
Don't know why this video was suggested on my page but when I saw this I really liked the part that it says failure and still so many views, it's courageous and very honest to show a failed attempt but the most important message I got is even with failure this is such a beautiful table and this means failure is just the message to a bigger success! Thanks for sharing 👍🙂
Not a total fail.. It was a learning curve for you as well as us watching.. And that idea of using the LEDs with the fibre optics has given me some ideas in my projects.. So.. Not a fail at all...
You hypnotised me with all this, I don’t know why but from the beginning I kept watching all the work, it’s fascinating the way you took time doing amazing things from a silly idea. I loved it so much. Thx
You know, I've got a bunch of old motherboards lying around from previous computer builds. This might be a really cool project for a new computer desk. Using the LED shells with fiber optic cable was a neat idea too.
I'm very impressed. You're a stand up guy. It's hard to say how many but I imagine more so than not. The average UA-camr would have skipped over the part about it not coming out right. Not lied about it, just not told us all about what happened. I've been guilty of it myself. If for nather reason that in itself deserves me subscribing. Sir you have a new subscriber.
it was exciting,the best part was your honesty and explaining every part in details.you aren't hiding any side effects you faced while doing this entire project.102k likes worth it.i wish it rese to millions!!!.that table also looks super cool haha.
What you've learnt from this: The epoxy was a failure. What we've learnt from this: Screw with your failure!! That LED with fiber optic wire is a brilliant idea, and your table is awesome!!
Looks like shit. My local lumberyard has an epoxied table with river stones, moss, and a slab of zebra wood with a live edge. Your table is something a sixth grader would do.
@@yousircantknow8987 "my local lumber yard...."😂😂😅That was one of the dumbest, out of left field, "I can't do better so I will hide my jealousy by posting that I saw a better one somewhere else that I had nothing to do with except seeing it" post I have ever seen!😂😂😅. FAF. Had me rolling for a while. Thanks. I really needed that.
i agree the fiber optic is really nice ! but i'm asking myself, in the video you show us you drilled a red led, but when you light it up later they all show up green and yellow ? i'm really curious about this
@@nathu100 The red one was the first as a test. 'For real' I used only green & yellow because I thought those colors matched better with the circuit boards.
I think you are usually supposed to pour it into different containers and them pour it again. It looked like you mixed and poured from the same container. I have had that same problem when I try to conserve the containers. Make sure you follow the instructions to a T and contact technical support for application techniques. In my experience the Envirotec technical support was Extremely helpful and knowledgeable. I wouldn’t be bummed if I was you, that table is freakin’ amazing, even if its not “perfect” good job!
An interesting build and entertaining to watch. I have a suggestion about the fiber optic lights. You could easily put a battery powered small motor under the tabletop, to which you attach a small disc with various sized circles, arcs, and other shapes cut into it, and shine a light source through the disc at the fiber optic cable ends. This would introduce a semi-random element or patterned 'movement' of the lights on the surface. You might do another table, this time assuring yourself of table being level. Add more lights than the current model, do the electric motor and pierced wheel arrangement, but add more discs with gearing to make each disc run at different speeds, adding more 'randomness' to the light patterns. Just a few thoughts, speaking, Frank-ly
The other day I where out to buy a cooking top, the seller ensured me it had wifi. And now your showing me your table with PCI express, expandable ram, several cpu's and it's all fanless. Sometimes I just wan't to go back to the stone age, but my time machine broke.
When a DIY'r tech nerd watches too much home improvement tv :) Great video! Personally I think it looks awesome. I would get a piece of glass made for the table top, put some 35% window tint on it, and just set it on top of everything. Thus, the tint will hide the imperfections of the epoxy, yet let the circuit boards and wood be visibly appealing. Definitely not a loss or a fail, just an unexpected step in the process towards the finished table!
The areas where you have waves in the epoxy, if it's not a soft spot, is caused by overheating of the epoxy. Overheating generally occurs when you pour too much epoxy (to thick a layer). The soft spots can either be the epoxy was not mixed well enough (as you suggested) or the room where you poured the epoxy and cured it was too cold. If the epoxy or the room you're curing it in is too cold, the epoxy does not go through the thermogenic reaction it needs to harden and cure. And ignore all of the non-creative fools who replied with "just put glass over it" , or made snide remarks. They obviously do not have a creative bone in their body!! You did a great job for your first table pour.
So sad to hear of the failure. The concept was totally awesome especially with the addition of fiber optics. I was thoroughly amazed at the finished product and the look of it looking like an aerial view of a city. Kudos my friend by going boldly into making a concept piece reality. Without failure how can we marvel at vast achievements made. Keep on keep'n on. 👍
I recommend a piece of glass that can be beveled around the edge at a 45 degree angle 1/2-1 inch wide. By the way, you made one HELL of a GREAT EFFORT- BRAVO my friend!Francis
As you can see here ua-cam.com/channels/NdDV4vHKjuWOYlEW4HIk5w.htmlcommunity I've begun fixing the table. I routed out the bad spots and am pouring in new epoxy. The first results look promising. Wait for the video. 😊
Maybe next time a small layer of epoxy to keep the boards in place then inlay a piece of glass as a cover? Just a thought. I really liked the concept of the table! Now I am wishing I didn't recycle all my old motherboards and telecom boards haha. Great work my friend!
Funny. I didn't see it as so exciting... but then again... I was busy at the time... 😊 But I can give away a little secret.... (As you won't tell anyone... 😆) I'm busy fixing the table (look here ua-cam.com/channels/NdDV4vHKjuWOYlEW4HIk5w.htmlcommunity ) and at some point I asked myself if it was possible to fix rather big enclosed air bubbles, by drilling two tiny holes at the ends, and with a syringe inject epoxy from one. Seeing that ugly bubble slowly disappear... now THAT was satisfying..! Busy with the video. Wait for it.
@@Onrust1 circular saw it out drop it out the bottom...put new thin layer of wood in the cutout then redo...maybe aplastic black between wood and new resin pour to be left in...right down the edge of wood meets resin circular saw
@@Onrust1 better yet drop it and build the circuit board outside of the table then put in after...even install it you can change it out from time to time just you same braces under neath just like table extension braces...
I'm assuming you read above that I've already fixed the table? Building the circuit board part outside of the table would make the installing of the glass fibers very difficult...
It looked like a city of silicon from above like an advanced civilisation would look like, so happy to see such patience and hard work you put in and saw it fail
Maybe you can run your circular saw through, just to the inside of the epoxy, then pry it out. I didn't see any metal pieces right at the edges that would give the saw blade any trouble. Since you lined the bottom with aluminum tape, you might be able to pull/pry the whole thing out after releasing the sides. Bit of a shame. I am sure that was a rather pricey resin pour. It was a great idea, and overall looked wonderful. It really appealed to my computer geek side. I really liked your idea for lighting the LEDs with fiber. I may have to borrow that solution one of these days for one of my projects.
Make a router sled and carve as mush epoxy out as you can without damaging the old mobos etc. Then refill. I would add a 3-5mm raised edge around the table and fill the epoxy so it covers the wood, covering the the table. Nice Work
try moving the table out into the sunlight - warm days - for a week. Needless to say, good weather will be needed as far as the forecast for your area. Sometimes thick epoxy resin that did not get well mixed will 'kick' due to the UV. You may try after the surface is hard a wash with acetone. Test at a small spot in a corner first.
Screw the table, hang it on the wall as an art object, it will still be beautiful! You are a very clever, artistic, industrious man, what a totally cool video!!!
This is the best solution! If he doesn't want to put the glass in contact with the epoxy, he just has to put something to separate both things leaving a little space in between. That table looks just amazing!
Heat may help set the epoxy. I have done a lot of epoxy casting at work. WARNING: The heating process does cause the release of fumes it is best done in a well ventilated area. The fumes could cause respiratory problems. with prolonged exposure. I frequently used heat to speed the curing process if prototype were needed in a rush. I would also use heat if I was off a bit with the catalyst (hardener) and things did not want to set in the after 2 to 5 days. The heat will make the epoxy a little soft. Cook between 30 C and 50 C, if it is too hot the epoxy will turn yellow. The heating may take a couple of days. The lower the heat the longer it will take to harden. You can repeat the heat process if required. - The second heat should be at a lower temp and a longer duration. When time was not a factor, I found that the lower heat 25 to 30C and longer duration, this worked best for me. If the heat is above 75C the epoxy tends to turn a little milky yellow to brown and cause distortions in the glass like finish. Do NOT use a heat gun to heat a localized area it may cause cracking. Build a tent and heat the whole panel evenly as possible. You could use the sun but make sure to use a heavy black plastic cover to shield the epoxy from the sun light. Watch the temperature closely, on a sunny day it can easily reach 73 C in a sealed tent think about your car in the sun and the heat inside it in summer. This could take several days bring the table in at night and cover with blankets to allow slower cooling. - Insulating the bottom of the table would help minimize the heat loss and give a more even temperature distribution through the panel thickness. When warm the epoxy will be softer so take your time, when cool and cured it will turn hard. let the epoxy cool to room temp 18-24 C with out additional cooling applied.( do not place in a cold place this may crack the panel) The longer it takes to cool the less stress you place on the cast panel. ( you have a big panel) I would suggest to keep the epoxy out of direct sun light. That will help the epoxy keep it's clarity. Non UV setting epoxy's will turn yellow. That will happen to most clear epoxies through time and sun exposure. UV light will cure UV setting epoxy's do turn yellow very quickly I created an epoxy that could have 3.5 " nail driven through a 3/4" thick piece with out breaking or cracking it. Fun Stuff!!
Sucess. I may give a sugestion for the next, about leds. You could just leave leds, connect to nothing, and with radio frequencies you could light them up at distance, with no batteries on leds, cables whatever. But its funny and nice to take a cell phone and make them blink. Nice table there.
Router out a layer thick enough for a sheet of glass on just the center piece; its hard to tell from the angles I saw it at but there should be some leeway between the surface of the table and the tallest component on one of the PCBs. Won't get rid of any ugly spots under that but should make it a functioning and non-sticky table.
Brilliant idea and I appreciate you sharing the challenges and “failure”. It’s nice to see a creator willing to show that not all projects turn out perfectly. You’ve earned a new sub. Thanks. I look forward to binging past projects and watching new ones. Happy New Year!
Hi Ron, what a shame that it didn't work out for you. I really like the idea and with the LED's it looks beautiful but I guess it's all a part of the learning curve. Many thanks for sharing your work with us.
At first I thought "what the hell, that's crazy" but when I saw the end result, man what a great job, very inventive idea! Nice one.😉 Such a shame the epoxy when bad☹️
How about just finishing the *entire* table top off with another 1/8" or so layer of epoxy? That should integrate nicely with what you already have, and retain the visual depth you were going for. I'd be leery about glass, as a lot of people are suggesting. Laid over top, its own spectral properties would likely interfere with the visual cues of the circuit boards being embedded in that deep well, making it a lot less impactful. Plus you could end up with weird Newton's rings distortion where the two made direct contact.
I like the accomplishment, now put in art gallery and make a pretty penny. As still can't believe living in Australia that about 8 old PC circut boards were put together sold for 50k at an auction (I laughed way to loud, then continued to remind people i could make that from scrap at my work IT GUY and sure i would put the 50k to better use) I will never understand ART. KEEP IT UP , ITS ALL ABOUT HAVING FUN
Im sorry it didnt work as expected for you, but it taught me how i wouldnt do mine if ever i tackled such a project. Theres a number of good suggestions here to help salvage the outcome. I think instead of resin i would simply use a ~ 6 mm/ 0.25" polycarbonate overlay. #1. The cost would be a fraction of resin material. #2. Polycarbonate will not scratch very easily. #3. The sheet and/or the display contents can be changed at will either from damage or when another display idea comes to you. I wonder what the optical effect would be if you used a laser pointer for the light source. I know it would be one led at a time of course, but the effect at each led lens might be fun to see. I hope further curing fixes the stickiness, but if it doesnt get some flooring to cover the entire thing over if it comes to that. Either that or a glass or polycarbonate full table cover.
I’m sure there will be a resin expert somewhere to advise on how to salvage the sticky situation. I really hope you find a satisfactory conclusion. I’m not a modernist by any stretch of the imagination, my heart lies in the Art Deco era but this project has really caught my eye....just love it. Also it would be one in the eye for all the clowns who have made fun of your hard work 👍👏😂💕
that LED trick is genius. Also it is possible that some of the chemicals on or in the boards interfered with the chemical curing of the epoxy. it's possible that maybe some leftover heat sink goop or some other residue was incompatible with the resin! even tho its not a total success i think this table is gorgeous, thanks for sharing!
Looks amazing like a futuristic city . I allways think circut boards remind me of this . Superb job . Looks amazing id have put strip leds round the inside edges so the lights shone across the boards . I think that would look cool also . But u did a superb job . Hope u and family are all well . Have a great weekend . Take care stay safe ..
If you incorporate passive heat sink as a table center decoration, you could possibly do this. Your thermals would be unfathomably awful, and you'd probably have to downclock everything to all hell, but it could work. Your power supply would have to be mounted under the table, though.
Maybe make a recess in the table, make a "bed" of some sort where you actually put the boards and epoxy. That way you keep the table with the existing recess, but are able to swap out the current boards and epoxy and put in a new one. Use some of the chiselled out pieces of wood to make thin covers over whatever you use to put the epoxied boards in, make the interface between the wood and the epoxy seamless, but pretty.
Being a hobby or home project, a few imperfections don't make it a fail in total. Overall, I enjoyed the vid and I for one see the table as a success. Great thing! :)
Hey, I think you can put a piece of glass over the table. Then 99%perfect and the rest of 1% is an evidence of human work which shows your enthusiasm and your brilliant experiences!
@Shadow Banned Why would you even use epoxy with the glass panel? Just mount glass on the top of the boards and there you go it's done. Not as cool as the version with epoxy but still pretty cool.
@@partiid you will gets hurtbutt if u do that. Because u need to add some glue to make that circuit doesnt move at all. And u need to remove the glass to clean it when some of your soda spilled in that table
@@hiragasakoto7193 The circuit boards can still be stuck in place with a thin layer of epoxy, or some other glue, below them. It doesn't have to be visible.
Too bad that it was not a success. Great work, better luck next time. At least we all learned something from your mistakes so it wasn't all a failure. :)
Awww That is frustrating that it didn't turn out right. You worked so hard on it. Even with it's flaws it sure is an Awesome table and Love the Fibre Optic Lights, they are so cool! Amazing Idea!
i had the same idea, then i read your comment. Glass is waay less expensive than epoxy, you can even plop it down onto some screws or washers to hold it down over the epoxy
I literally laughed out loud towards the end of the video where he reveals that the table was a fail and he says "what now?" at 14:15 because it cut to an advertisement for a depression medication...... 🤣😂🤣😂
Just cut the circuit board section completely out with your saw and then router a rebate underneath to accept a false bottom. Should be very quick, then start again.
In the mean time I tried to fix the table, and that is in this video: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html 'How (not) to pour epoxy'. If you want to know what happend with the table, check it out!
How much would you sell it for had it been a success
@Fake Reality - Why spray clear? In fact I coated the boards with one first pour (I should have put a bit of epoxy on the wood too). So I agree that you should treat everything you pour in first. But it can be done with epoxy as well - see the new video.
@Los Kr34ck - No idea. It's not something that is on my mind. People here told me I could sell it for thousands, even tens of thousands, but I don't know. I haven't got the channels for that and am not that interested in selling. It's OK where it is, in my small showroom in front of my workshop. 😊
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problem is that you poured multiple layers instead one. either you go with one pour or you pour many times but before the bottom layer gets dry
I really like the idea of the fiber optics. Don't have to worry about trying to replace a burnt LED that's embedded in epoxy
Thanks for watching my video! *PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE COMMENTING*
Answering most stated comments:
*- Put a glass top over it*
Yeah, good suggestion and I might consider, but the ugly spots won't go away with that..
Update: after getting this suggestion over 200 times (really!) I feel I have to elaborate now on this. I will NOT put a glass plate on top. I've got it worked out by now and want to try to fix the ugly and soft spots by carefully removing layers and pour epoxy in again. I know now three things I could have done better / different. Like most what I do the fixing too will be an experiment to learn from, so I will definitely make a video of it, titled 'how (not) to pour epoxy'. 😊 Wait for it. 😊
*- Just pour one new layer epoxy over the whole table*
Could do that, but again, the ugly spots won't go away with that, and second I don't like the look of wood underneath epoxy that much... Covering wood in epoxy for me is something like making plastic out of something natural..
*- Cut out the center, put in a new bottom and start new*
I will certainly not do that. I've just so many other things I want to make..
*- You should have poured thinner layers*
The specs of the epoxy said I could pour 5 cm at once. I did maybe 1,5 cm. Most is fine. I screwed up the mixing.
*- You should have mixed the epoxy like this ... method, or like this ...*
Hey, I know I SCREWED UP the mixing. Thanks for reminding me. 😉😉 I will take your advice and do better next time. I promise.
*- What if one LED dies? How will you fix that? You should add solar to charge the batteries*
You haven't watched the whole video, now have you? I know everybody skips parts of videos, but skipping the essential parts makes you ask stupid questions... 😁😁
*- You're better in converting buses*
Ok, I confess, I made that comment up. 😆😆
Maybe another brand of epoxy?
Can you maybe buy a custom glass top for it? It is beautiful regardless.
Hey onrust you put vernish on epoxy, that’s the bad, you must wax the epoxy without vernish
So grind another 2.5 hours.... ah ah ah!
In case you got a superb project there
In 2000 years some poor soul is going to spend his entire career dedicated to figuring out what this device actually did.
An AI will spend an entire second trying to figure it out.
@@linagee this is too high a concept for an AI to figure out.
@@Blink_____ In 2000 years we'll be pets of AI and robots
@@pokemon_fan659 lol you think we aren't already. But computers are still stupid. They will never understand art
@starshipeleven yeah I mean, it's not like we came up with the concept or anything lol
You didn't show us the part when the table starts walking.
That part of the video was confiscated by the CIA.
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great idea and you really did a great job. im not sure if other people mentioned these two help-full hints.
**to eliminate having uncured spots in the epoxy**
- combine the two parts of epoxy required in a clean container and mix for half of the time indicated in the instructions. then transfer the epoxy to a different new clean container and continue to mix for the exact remaining time required. pour as soon as the required mixing time is completed. when mixing- stir the product as fast as you can BY HAND without adding allot of air or bubbles into the mixture. make sure to scrape the sides of the container during the mixing and when your transferring from the first to second container. when pouring out of the second container onto your project DO NOT scrape the sides.
**to eliminate bubbles in the finished product**
- use a heat gun and pass back and forth in a even sweeping motion over the epoxy as soon as you finish pouring out the epoxy. when the epoxy is warmed you will see the bubbles move to the surface and with each pass of the heat source the bubbles should "pop" and disappear.
Jeremy H this is a good hint, i did a bar too with epoxy and as you said if you follow instructions and use multiple containers it comes out flawless.
What would be the reason or the theory that pooring it over to another container will make it work better? thanks
@@goednieuwskrantje-nl It may be that at the edge of the container is still unmixed resin. If you dump it in a new container and do not scratch it, you avoid that this resin is being poured with it
I made my kitchen island in a wood top and did epoxy. The heat was the trick. I used a propane torch. I did several layers. It looks like a sheat of glass. I hope he does it again. I know that epoxy is not cheap though.
@@goednieuwskrantje-nl In the original container, a lot of unmixed epoxy liquid can stick to the sides and bottom, especially in the corners. When you put it into a new container, the unmixed liquid sticking to the sides of the original container will tend to pour out last, and in doing so will be poured directly into the middle of the new container. This trick really works.
Fantastic idea!
I'm a retired Printed Circuit Board Designer. You gave me an idea, do this but with all the PCBs I've designed since the 1980s. A coffee table to be proud of in more ways than one.
That would make a very unique and interesting coffee table. A conversation piece for sure.
There's a market here for these tables for sure!
I admire your honesty in admitting failure. Overall, fantastic project.
Use glass on top.. I wont call it failure its looks fantastic
I had the same exact thought. A lot of UA-camrs only want to share their perfect attempts. You tend to learn the most from mistakes especially when someone else makes them first. LOL Great video. Being an Electrical Engineering I am particularly biased.
Don't know why this video was suggested on my page but when I saw this I really liked the part that it says failure and still so many views, it's courageous and very honest to show a failed attempt but the most important message I got is even with failure this is such a beautiful table and this means failure is just the message to a bigger success! Thanks for sharing 👍🙂
Thank you. You might be interested in the follow-up video as well?: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html
Regardless of the in imperfections, the idea was brilliant and it largely looks awesome. I would love to have a table like this.
Not a total fail.. It was a learning curve for you as well as us watching.. And that idea of using the LEDs with the fibre optics has given me some ideas in my projects.. So.. Not a fail at all...
You hypnotised me with all this, I don’t know why but from the beginning I kept watching all the work, it’s fascinating the way you took time doing amazing things from a silly idea. I loved it so much. Thx
The boards look like a major futuristic city, like a birds eye view of a huge city. Love the table.
Sounds like a good idea. Mini city models underneath covered with epoxy.
You know, I've got a bunch of old motherboards lying around from previous computer builds. This might be a really cool project for a new computer desk.
Using the LED shells with fiber optic cable was a neat idea too.
I'm very impressed. You're a stand up guy. It's hard to say how many but I imagine more so than not. The average UA-camr would have skipped over the part about it not coming out right. Not lied about it, just not told us all about what happened. I've been guilty of it myself. If for nather reason that in itself deserves me subscribing. Sir you have a new subscriber.
it was exciting,the best part was your honesty and explaining every part in details.you aren't hiding any side effects you faced while doing this entire project.102k likes worth it.i wish it rese to millions!!!.that table also looks super cool haha.
Thank you. It gets even better in the follow-up video. You might want to see that too? ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html
,,Am I talking to the support? Yes, I have an issue, my table won't boot."
More lights for holidays and stuff. Maybe a table with lights throughout the whole top.
"Go to Walmart, purchase 10 iTunes gift card for $100 dollars each.... "
@@dglesterhardunkichud4017 xD
"Do the lights come on? Then the table boots. Your problem is something else."
"I'm sorry to hear about your trouble sir....you will need to proceed with a hard drive re-format"
What you've learnt from this: The epoxy was a failure.
What we've learnt from this: Screw with your failure!! That LED with fiber optic wire is a brilliant idea, and your table is awesome!!
Looks like shit. My local lumberyard has an epoxied table with river stones, moss, and a slab of zebra wood with a live edge. Your table is something a sixth grader would do.
@@yousircantknow8987 "my local lumber yard...."😂😂😅That was one of the dumbest, out of left field, "I can't do better so I will hide my jealousy by posting that I saw a better one somewhere else that I had nothing to do with except seeing it" post I have ever seen!😂😂😅. FAF. Had me rolling for a while. Thanks. I really needed that.
i agree the fiber optic is really nice ! but i'm asking myself, in the video you show us you drilled a red led, but when you light it up later they all show up green and yellow ? i'm really curious about this
@@nathu100 The red one was the first as a test. 'For real' I used only green & yellow because I thought those colors matched better with the circuit boards.
I think you are usually supposed to pour it into different containers and them pour it again. It looked like you mixed and poured from the same container. I have had that same problem when I try to conserve the containers. Make sure you follow the instructions to a T and contact technical support for application techniques. In my experience the Envirotec technical support was Extremely helpful and knowledgeable. I wouldn’t be bummed if I was you, that table is freakin’ amazing, even if its not “perfect” good job!
To me the table still looks great. The use of optical fiber instead of normal led and wires is a brilliant idea!
An interesting build and entertaining to watch. I have a suggestion about the fiber optic lights. You could easily put a battery powered small motor under the tabletop, to which you attach a small disc with various sized circles, arcs, and other shapes cut into it, and shine a light source through the disc at the fiber optic cable ends. This would introduce a semi-random element or patterned 'movement' of the lights on the surface.
You might do another table, this time assuring yourself of table being level. Add more lights than the current model, do the electric motor and pierced wheel arrangement, but add more discs with gearing to make each disc run at different speeds, adding more 'randomness' to the light patterns.
Just a few thoughts,
speaking, Frank-ly
The other day I where out to buy a cooking top, the seller ensured me it had wifi.
And now your showing me your table with PCI express, expandable ram, several cpu's and it's all fanless.
Sometimes I just wan't to go back to the stone age, but my time machine broke.
When a DIY'r tech nerd watches too much home improvement tv :) Great video!
Personally I think it looks awesome.
I would get a piece of glass made for the table top, put some 35% window tint on it, and just set it on top of everything.
Thus, the tint will hide the imperfections of the epoxy, yet let the circuit boards and wood be visibly appealing.
Definitely not a loss or a fail, just an unexpected step in the process towards the finished table!
The areas where you have waves in the epoxy, if it's not a soft spot, is caused by overheating of the epoxy. Overheating generally occurs when you pour too much epoxy (to thick a layer). The soft spots can either be the epoxy was not mixed well enough (as you suggested) or the room where you poured the epoxy and cured it was too cold. If the epoxy or the room you're curing it in is too cold, the epoxy does not go through the thermogenic reaction it needs to harden and cure.
And ignore all of the non-creative fools who replied with "just put glass over it" , or made snide remarks. They obviously do not have a creative bone in their body!!
You did a great job for your first table pour.
Thank you. Yes, I learned a lot from this, as you can see here: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html Regards from the Netherlands!
So sad to hear of the failure. The concept was totally awesome especially with the addition of fiber optics. I was thoroughly amazed at the finished product and the look of it looking like an aerial view of a city. Kudos my friend by going boldly into making a concept piece reality. Without failure how can we marvel at vast achievements made. Keep on keep'n on. 👍
The table looks awesome, from further away. I really like the idea of having a "smart table" showing its interior.
I recommend a piece of glass that can be beveled around the edge at a 45 degree angle 1/2-1 inch wide. By the way, you made one HELL of a GREAT EFFORT- BRAVO my friend!Francis
As you can see here ua-cam.com/channels/NdDV4vHKjuWOYlEW4HIk5w.htmlcommunity I've begun fixing the table. I routed out the bad spots and am pouring in new epoxy. The first results look promising. Wait for the video. 😊
if it wasnt sticky itd be fine cus the "messed up" parts still look cool
hmm... surely you could put a polyurethane coating over it all and it wouldn't be sticky
You can't win them all mate. Every failure is a big learning opportunity and a great way to become a master, so stick with it!
Maybe next time a small layer of epoxy to keep the boards in place then inlay a piece of glass as a cover? Just a thought. I really liked the concept of the table! Now I am wishing I didn't recycle all my old motherboards and telecom boards haha. Great work my friend!
I just took six old desk-tops and four lap-tops to the dump about three weeks ago. Wish I'd seen this first.
The table might have been a failure to you, but man, was the pouring of epoxy satisfying to me!
Funny. I didn't see it as so exciting... but then again... I was busy at the time... 😊
But I can give away a little secret....
(As you won't tell anyone... 😆)
I'm busy fixing the table (look here ua-cam.com/channels/NdDV4vHKjuWOYlEW4HIk5w.htmlcommunity ) and at some point I asked myself if it was possible to fix rather big enclosed air bubbles, by drilling two tiny holes at the ends, and with a syringe inject epoxy from one. Seeing that ugly bubble slowly disappear... now THAT was satisfying..!
Busy with the video. Wait for it.
@@Onrust1 Looking forward to it!
@@Onrust1 circular saw it out drop it out the bottom...put new thin layer of wood in the cutout then redo...maybe aplastic black between wood and new resin pour to be left in...right down the edge of wood meets resin circular saw
@@Onrust1 better yet drop it and build the circuit board outside of the table then put in after...even install it you can change it out from time to time just you same braces under neath just like table extension braces...
I'm assuming you read above that I've already fixed the table? Building the circuit board part outside of the table would make the installing of the glass fibers very difficult...
It looked like a city of silicon from above like an advanced civilisation would look like, so happy to see such patience and hard work you put in and saw it fail
A glass top should fix your issue if you want the least amount of effort.
Exactly, epoxy it’s toxic.
I thought about that also. But I do like the epoxy more.
Nice,I thougt a glass would be better.
also prevents dust and such, unlike a glass top. still cool, though.
@@simply_searching put a glass top and cover it with a thin layer of epoxy
is that table gonna work with just 2 blocks of ddr2 ram? Just wondering
It can run ZUMA
My couchPC has 2 blocks of ddr2 dm me on ig if you wanna see it...
Gaming table brooo
And no Intel Inside? 😛
You can always download some more.
Maybe you can run your circular saw through, just to the inside of the epoxy, then pry it out. I didn't see any metal pieces right at the edges that would give the saw blade any trouble. Since you lined the bottom with aluminum tape, you might be able to pull/pry the whole thing out after releasing the sides. Bit of a shame. I am sure that was a rather pricey resin pour.
It was a great idea, and overall looked wonderful. It really appealed to my computer geek side. I really liked your idea for lighting the LEDs with fiber. I may have to borrow that solution one of these days for one of my projects.
I like the way how you put your thoughts at each and every moment in the video.
Put a big piece of glass over the whole table
Amen! He poured so much money just to find the hard way these epoxy resins are garbage. Plus he started crying when he had to lift the table...
The epoxy should not be blamed for the idiot that didn't mix it well. There was no crying involved.
Maybe glue down a sheet of glass with another layer of epoxy? It might make it clear... that's what I'd try.
@@shofarsogood7504 Maybe he could use a heat gun to smooth out the surface?
@@stevethea5250 talking about sex on a epoxy video , g8 m8!
Make a router sled and carve as mush epoxy out as you can without damaging the old mobos etc.
Then refill.
I would add a 3-5mm raised edge around the table and fill the epoxy so it covers the wood, covering the the table.
Nice Work
try moving the table out into the sunlight - warm days - for a week. Needless to say, good weather will be needed as far as the forecast for your area. Sometimes thick epoxy resin that did not get well mixed will 'kick' due to the UV. You may try after the surface is hard a wash with acetone. Test at a small spot in a corner first.
no sunlight will likly brown the apoxy
Screw the table, hang it on the wall as an art object, it will still be beautiful! You are a very clever, artistic, industrious man, what a totally cool video!!!
Could have done that, but didn't. Here is what I did: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html
Thank you!
just put a glass plate over the entire table , boom - done it’s still awesome work you done and very unique
This is the best solution! If he doesn't want to put the glass in contact with the epoxy, he just has to put something to separate both things leaving a little space in between. That table looks just amazing!
Heat may help set the epoxy. I have done a lot of epoxy casting at work.
WARNING:
The heating process does cause the release of fumes it is best done in a well ventilated area.
The fumes could cause respiratory problems. with prolonged exposure.
I frequently used heat to speed the curing process if prototype were needed in a rush.
I would also use heat if I was off a bit with the catalyst (hardener) and things did not want to set in the after 2 to 5 days.
The heat will make the epoxy a little soft.
Cook between 30 C and 50 C, if it is too hot the epoxy will turn yellow.
The heating may take a couple of days. The lower the heat the longer it will take to harden.
You can repeat the heat process if required.
- The second heat should be at a lower temp and a longer duration.
When time was not a factor, I found that the lower heat 25 to 30C and longer duration, this worked best for me.
If the heat is above 75C the epoxy tends to turn a little milky yellow to brown and cause distortions in the glass like finish.
Do NOT use a heat gun to heat a localized area it may cause cracking.
Build a tent and heat the whole panel evenly as possible.
You could use the sun but make sure to use a heavy black plastic cover to shield the epoxy from the sun light.
Watch the temperature closely, on a sunny day it can easily reach 73 C in a sealed tent think about your car in the sun and the heat inside it in summer.
This could take several days bring the table in at night and cover with blankets to allow slower cooling.
- Insulating the bottom of the table would help minimize the heat loss and give a more even temperature distribution through the panel thickness.
When warm the epoxy will be softer so take your time, when cool and cured it will turn hard.
let the epoxy cool to room temp 18-24 C with out additional cooling applied.( do not place in a cold place this may crack the panel)
The longer it takes to cool the less stress you place on the cast panel. ( you have a big panel)
I would suggest to keep the epoxy out of direct sun light.
That will help the epoxy keep it's clarity.
Non UV setting epoxy's will turn yellow.
That will happen to most clear epoxies through time and sun exposure.
UV light will cure UV setting epoxy's do turn yellow very quickly
I created an epoxy that could have 3.5 " nail driven through a 3/4" thick piece with out breaking or cracking it.
Fun Stuff!!
Jesus christ dude, I was not expecting that detailed guide and explanation when I clicked show more. I thought it would say "good luck" or something.
@@volundrfrey896 hahahaha exactly
Sucess. I may give a sugestion for the next, about leds. You could just leave leds, connect to nothing, and with radio frequencies you could light them up at distance, with no batteries on leds, cables whatever. But its funny and nice to take a cell phone and make them blink. Nice table there.
*That 'Simple Strip' shape looked like an aerial view of a city, liked it and end result.*
Use MAS epoxy “Table Top” to cover the whole table and provide a clear hard surface
I wonder if the bad spots could be cooked out with a heat gun? If so, a quarter inch would do.
Solution to fail: lay a piece of clear glass over the entire table.
Router out a layer thick enough for a sheet of glass on just the center piece; its hard to tell from the angles I saw it at but there should be some leeway between the surface of the table and the tallest component on one of the PCBs.
Won't get rid of any ugly spots under that but should make it a functioning and non-sticky table.
To avoid the formation of bubbles he should have put the table in a vacuum chamber.
What an amateur...
Reth Tard The man who has never made a mistake, has never done anything.
Reth Tard
Yeah, we all have one of those in our spare rooms just waiting for the day we make an epoxy table, because we're all professionals, right?
@UCyp5Y0PWU7-D8DNrTMp2Qjg
Well... If Nasa can do it, everybody can...
:P
This table if still remains in the future, it will be a mark for human history.
Your table is lighting up like a city at night time. An overview of the city has always reminded me of a computer chip.
Wife comes home: Honey IKEA is having a huge table sale
Brilliant idea and I appreciate you sharing the challenges and “failure”. It’s nice to see a creator willing to show that not all projects turn out perfectly. You’ve earned a new sub. Thanks. I look forward to binging past projects and watching new ones. Happy New Year!
Thank you and Happy New Year back to you!
Regards from the Netherlands!
What a brilliant work.
This is 100% success.
I like it.
Bang bang bro...🤙🤙
Hi Ron, what a shame that it didn't work out for you. I really like the idea and with the LED's it looks beautiful but I guess it's all a part of the learning curve. Many thanks for sharing your work with us.
Thank you, you're welcome. Yes, you're right about the learning curve, that's why I made this follow-up video: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html
this table is so cool, try to save it by putting the big glass over the entire table!
Stainless steel edges would have looked great in between the wood and epoxy BUT it looks great the way it is as well. Nice work!
At first I thought "what the hell, that's crazy" but when I saw the end result, man what a great job, very inventive idea! Nice one.😉 Such a shame the epoxy when bad☹️
You can always tell when epoxy is about to go bad. Its starts staying out late and drinking a lot and saying things like "Gee whiz".
I love the fact that you chose classical music to edit your video over modern Music. You have a good taste in music 🙏 ❤️.
That was the most intense epoxy-pouring I've ever heard.
Bummer the table failed, because the idea was really neat!
Not a failure for me - I learned much from this video. Euros, LOL, that is not really money.
would of been nice if he put the cpu and the ssd and all the real parts in
How about just finishing the *entire* table top off with another 1/8" or so layer of epoxy? That should integrate nicely with what you already have, and retain the visual depth you were going for.
I'd be leery about glass, as a lot of people are suggesting. Laid over top, its own spectral properties would likely interfere with the visual cues of the circuit boards being embedded in that deep well, making it a lot less impactful. Plus you could end up with weird Newton's rings distortion where the two made direct contact.
I like the accomplishment, now put in art gallery and make a pretty penny. As still can't believe living in Australia that about 8 old PC circut boards were put together sold for 50k at an auction (I laughed way to loud, then continued to remind people i could make that from scrap at my work IT GUY and sure i would put the 50k to better use) I will never understand ART.
KEEP IT UP , ITS ALL ABOUT HAVING FUN
Wow what a guy you replied to lots of comments and actually took advice nice guy
Thank you. Anyone with a question gets an answer.. Only the comments on other comments, I don't get to see always..
This is spectacular!!! an error in Art is a design. Bro this is magnificent. Kudos
Im sorry it didnt work as expected for you, but it taught me how i wouldnt do mine if ever i tackled such a project. Theres a number of good suggestions here to help salvage the outcome.
I think instead of resin i would simply use a ~ 6 mm/ 0.25" polycarbonate overlay. #1. The cost would be a fraction of resin material. #2. Polycarbonate will not scratch very easily. #3. The sheet and/or the display contents can be changed at will either from damage or when another display idea comes to you.
I wonder what the optical effect would be if you used a laser pointer for the light source. I know it would be one led at a time of course, but the effect at each led lens might be fun to see.
I hope further curing fixes the stickiness, but if it doesnt get some flooring to cover the entire thing over if it comes to that. Either that or a glass or polycarbonate full table cover.
I’m sure there will be a resin expert somewhere to advise on how to salvage the sticky situation. I really hope you find a satisfactory conclusion. I’m not a modernist by any stretch of the imagination, my heart lies in the Art Deco era but this project has really caught my eye....just love it. Also it would be one in the eye for all the clowns who have made fun of your hard work 👍👏😂💕
Thank you. You seem to be ready for the follow-up video by now... 😁 ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html
Changing these LEDs will be a challenge!
If they hadn’t been cleverly replaced with glass fibers!
The first layer melted from the heat generated by the 2nd layer it’s happened to many projects of mine
He needed to not pour 7 LITERS in one go. Too much epoxy=too much heat=goofy looking finish.
So multiple layers to apply the 7 liters will help prevent the funkiness?
It all depends on the epoxy brand you use
Shannon O. Depends on which epoxy you use, there are many variations, ie for +2” thickness pours, for 1/2” thick, etc.
Did the epoxy react with the plastic of the components or was it curing heat generated
"I'll just sleep on it for a while"
I thought it was meant to be a table, not a bed?!
I'll get my coat.
that LED trick is genius. Also it is possible that some of the chemicals on or in the boards interfered with the chemical curing of the epoxy. it's possible that maybe some leftover heat sink goop or some other residue was incompatible with the resin! even tho its not a total success i think this table is gorgeous, thanks for sharing!
The answer to your question is 'probably not'. More in the follow-up video here: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html
Thank you for underlining an old rule: Mix the resin for longer than you think it's right!
a glass over the circuit board could be an option. easy n clean.
That would always let dust in no matter what.
A Computer desk with these circuit board would've been the best option in my opinion
Somair Hossain agreed
I thought the same till the fail part, I'm going to pass on this project!
I was thinking the same thing. I couldn't get a project like this to fly on a dining table. Computer desk would be perfect.
Looks amazing like a futuristic city . I allways think circut boards remind me of this . Superb job . Looks amazing id have put strip leds round the inside edges so the lights shone across the boards . I think that would look cool also . But u did a superb job . Hope u and family are all well . Have a great weekend . Take care stay safe ..
Thanks Ian. I wish you all the same. 😊
it was a bit strange for me, I have been living with computer parts for over 30 years, for me they have lives. but, the table looks really nice.
lol I always thought I'd be the only one thinking that way. are you also able to recognize parts and systems by the sound they make?
panic Same lol
@@Siafk are you okay? 😕😂
Thumps up for the idea, and for the honesty, showing that results doesn´t always ends perrfectly.
"Where is your computer?"
"In my table"
If you incorporate passive heat sink as a table center decoration, you could possibly do this. Your thermals would be unfathomably awful, and you'd probably have to downclock everything to all hell, but it could work. Your power supply would have to be mounted under the table, though.
I was about to comment the same
@@almisami its called watercooling my guy. Won't need to be too thick of a counter. Just get watercooled vrms and such and boom. Stupid computer
Maybe make a recess in the table, make a "bed" of some sort where you actually put the boards and epoxy. That way you keep the table with the existing recess, but are able to swap out the current boards and epoxy and put in a new one. Use some of the chiselled out pieces of wood to make thin covers over whatever you use to put the epoxied boards in, make the interface between the wood and the epoxy seamless, but pretty.
Could have done, but didn't. Here is what I did: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html
Oh my gosh that is so awesome. That is the coolest table I’ve ever seen
It's a shame the table wasn't a success - Looked great.
Being a hobby or home project, a few imperfections don't make it a fail in total. Overall, I enjoyed the vid and I for one see the table as a success. Great thing! :)
Hey, I think you can put a piece of glass over the table. Then 99%perfect and the rest of 1% is an evidence of human work which shows your enthusiasm and your brilliant experiences!
Could have done that, but didn't. Here is what I did: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html
How about a sheet of glass over the top?
also the epoxy will be yellowish after few years
@Shadow Banned Why would you even use epoxy with the glass panel?
Just mount glass on the top of the boards and there you go it's done.
Not as cool as the version with epoxy but still pretty cool.
@@partiid you will gets hurtbutt if u do that. Because u need to add some glue to make that circuit doesnt move at all. And u need to remove the glass to clean it when some of your soda spilled in that table
@@hiragasakoto7193 Not if you seal the gap with silicone. And epoxy is toxic.
@@hiragasakoto7193 The circuit boards can still be stuck in place with a thin layer of epoxy, or some other glue, below them. It doesn't have to be visible.
Too bad that it was not a success. Great work, better luck next time. At least we all learned something from your mistakes so it wasn't all a failure. :)
I loved the table.. can you get a sheet of glass and place it as a table top?
Thats nice idea
Or coat the whole table top with a layer of epoxy.
Awww That is frustrating that it didn't turn out right. You worked so hard on it. Even with it's flaws it sure is an Awesome table and Love the Fibre Optic Lights, they are so cool! Amazing Idea!
You can cut the Table plate down and hang it at the wall as a kind of art ... yk
Lay a sheet of glass over the whole thing. You did all the hard work, just finish it off.
find a glass firest of all
i had the same idea, then i read your comment. Glass is waay less expensive than epoxy, you can even plop it down onto some screws or washers to hold it down over the epoxy
that what in my mind also~
When all those hours of playing Tetris, finally pay off.
Glad I jumped to the end of the video! xD
You could just put a clear glass on top of the table and make it completely useful again.
Could have done, but didn't. Here is what I did: ua-cam.com/video/rJBFk-5gMQY/v-deo.html
I literally laughed out loud towards the end of the video where he reveals that the table was a fail and he says "what now?" at 14:15 because it cut to an advertisement for a depression medication...... 🤣😂🤣😂
may I recommend searching youtube for "Unedited Footage of a Bear" and click first video. I think you may appreciate
😂😂
youtube recomendation: yo do you wanna see embedded circuit board in table?
me:
Just cut the circuit board section completely out with your saw and then router a rebate underneath to accept a false bottom. Should be very quick, then start again.
Another great example of passion. I really liked the musics in your videos by the way.
Thank you. Nice to hear. 😊
When an artist makes an electronic nonsense table: Tek
Hahahaha so funny
Tech - Kalm
Tek - Panik
"Nothing fancy" makes tent nicer than my house
I hear of much intensity in Tent City.
That's why he didn't mix correctly. Spent too much time on stupid tent.
thats funny
More powerful computing technology on those old motherboards than the entire Apollo space program had.
Only difference is that all of the boards were damaged and not working
isnt that just crazy how much tech had improved over the last 60 years.
@@stal2496
1) There are a lot more differences than that.
2) Working or not, my statement still holds true.
especially the board with double xeon cpus
Bro the bits on the Saturn v are massive cubes with rings it's crazy
Great video, showing the failure part at the end. That takes courage to do that. Also, I love the light above the table!!!
Thank you! Have you seen the video of the making of that lamp? ua-cam.com/video/QYLLu1wWZOQ/v-deo.html
@@Onrust1 Awesome thank you!!! :-D
If this were sold to a tech company, it would go for big bucks. I'm sure a lot of tech oriented people would love to have this in their break room.
Sud have used vibrator to remove bubbles which got in btwn boards n while putting epoxy with proper concentration.....
8:07
That looks soo cool. Looks like a circuit board city being flooded by a giant.
It looks really nice! Maybe adding more hardener on the sticky areas will help the top of them cure