The way I see it there’s two ways to learn these types of manoeuvres, step by step like in this video or from start to finish in one go. If you put aside your current skill at what you’re practicing and look at it week on week, you won’t feel as unmotivated when you’re not seeing instant results. I learned piroflips by learning the general stick movement and timing, and then failing at 60% sim speed for a week or two. At the end of the day the brain needs to form the subconscious connections. Now I’m at a point where I can do them badly at 100% speed. I didn’t use a piro trainer etc since I feel like they abstract away from the real manoeuvre and will hinder you in the long run, but it is useful for checking biases in the flip once you’ve got the core movement down. My point is that learning these things is more a matter of DAILY practice and letting the brain do it’s thing rather than the method of said practice, and as long as you’re practicing daily you will get there sooner or later. But I appreciate the breakdown and your way might work better for some people but no one is going to make any meaningful progress without daily practice regardless which method you use
Wow, I just wanted to take a moment to thank you so much for posting this incredible tutorial! I’ve been wanting to learn the piroflip for a while, but I was struggling to find a clear, step-by-step guide. Your video broke everything down perfectly, and I can finally say I’m starting to get the hang of it! Your explanations and the way you walk through each part of the trick made it so much easier to understand. It’s obvious you put a lot of effort into making this content, and I truly appreciate it. Keep up the awesome work - your videos are a game-changer for anyone looking to level up their RC Helicopter flying skills. Thanks again!
I also wanna say thank you for making these types of videos. Because of them I can now do half pyros and pyros on the sim at least 😀 The thing that sets your videos apart is the slow and methodical showing of the points in fixed mode. That and watching the motion at like 0,25 speed made my brain "click" somehow 👌
thanks again for this video. I'm now able to hit the main targets while flying in the sim. This breakdown of the steps and knowing the targets was super helpful.
That's great to hear. I think there's no single way to learn these. It usually takes a few cracks at it using different ideas until it all comes together.
Can you pretty please do a tutorial on how to do flipping funnels and flipping hurricanes. Would like to see what's going on when someone does it correctly.
What sort of flipping? The kind where you flip forwards/backwards from the direction of travel, or the one where you flip in/out while doing the circle?
@@rchelicopter I think the latter is what I was I was referencing. I really like the hurricane where they do elevator flips in the hurricane switching from blades in to skids in while keeping in a clockwise hurricane for example. The other one is the same premise but the flips are taking place while flying either an upright or inverted pie dish/funnel.
Richard I have NeXt simulator. It works ok but in terms of a guided trainer for specific maneuvers it is lacking. What sim would you suggest that will teach you eD maneuvers? What software are you using in your video here?
I don't think any of them do a particularly good job of guided trainer. RealFlight has some hovering exercises, but I've never managed to get beyond level 27. Heli-X has some hovering exercises as well, but probably not what you're after I imagine. This was Heli-X. You can try it out for free. I think it just limits the helis and fields, and there's a popup occasionally, but very usable.
@@rchelicopter yes, the screenshots of the main positions for half piro and full piro flips are so helpful for me to understand the main targets. I wish you and your great channel much success!
Hi Richard, I can more or less do piroflips but as soon as I increase the speed of the tail. Do you have any advice for that? I also have trouble staying in the same place when I do piroflips, the helicopter goes off in all directions.
Essentially piro flips are really difficult, and because the tail can be fast, I couldn't find a quick way of fixing them. I think it just takes time, not something you can fix in a weekend. Vary the practice and speed, make sure you do a few every day. Try them from standstill as well as pirouetting. Try them with half, 1 and 2 piros, and they will come.
@@rchelicopter Thank you very much Richard for your method, the movement is starting to sink in and I'm doing it faster and faster. I wanted to tell you that I appreciate your help for novices ;). I'm starting on the right side now.
@rchelicopter thanks I been using Phoenix so you think heli-x is better for learning. I been thinking of buying a new sim but can't figure out which one
@@jodymorrison9495 Heli-X is the only one getting updates at the moment with new models. You can try for free to make sure it works on your system. neXt has almost stopped doing updates, but might still be worth it.
The way I see it there’s two ways to learn these types of manoeuvres, step by step like in this video or from start to finish in one go. If you put aside your current skill at what you’re practicing and look at it week on week, you won’t feel as unmotivated when you’re not seeing instant results. I learned piroflips by learning the general stick movement and timing, and then failing at 60% sim speed for a week or two. At the end of the day the brain needs to form the subconscious connections. Now I’m at a point where I can do them badly at 100% speed. I didn’t use a piro trainer etc since I feel like they abstract away from the real manoeuvre and will hinder you in the long run, but it is useful for checking biases in the flip once you’ve got the core movement down.
My point is that learning these things is more a matter of DAILY practice and letting the brain do it’s thing rather than the method of said practice, and as long as you’re practicing daily you will get there sooner or later. But I appreciate the breakdown and your way might work better for some people but no one is going to make any meaningful progress without daily practice regardless which method you use
100% agree!
Wow, I just wanted to take a moment to thank you so much for posting this incredible tutorial! I’ve been wanting to learn the piroflip for a while, but I was struggling to find a clear, step-by-step guide. Your video broke everything down perfectly, and I can finally say I’m starting to get the hang of it! Your explanations and the way you walk through each part of the trick made it so much easier to understand. It’s obvious you put a lot of effort into making this content, and I truly appreciate it. Keep up the awesome work - your videos are a game-changer for anyone looking to level up their RC Helicopter flying skills. Thanks again!
Thank, much appreciated. It's a tricky move for sure. Great that you're making progress!
First time I have seen it step by step and the first time I understand how its done, well done to you
I also wanna say thank you for making these types of videos. Because of them I can now do half pyros and pyros on the sim at least 😀 The thing that sets your videos apart is the slow and methodical showing of the points in fixed mode. That and watching the motion at like 0,25 speed made my brain "click" somehow 👌
That's very cool to hear. Glad I could help, looking forward to hearing about you doing them in real life 👍
Awesome explanation videos of various figures. Please keep on going.
Thanks so much, really appreciate it
What I've been looking for after flying daily on the Helipalooza realflight server since 2008!
Planning to start flying again and looking at which SIM to buy. I like the look of Heli X. Great tutorial thanks for sharing.
thanks again for this video. I'm now able to hit the main targets while flying in the sim. This breakdown of the steps and knowing the targets was super helpful.
That's great to hear. I think there's no single way to learn these. It usually takes a few cracks at it using different ideas until it all comes together.
Yep, it makes a lot more sense now what's going on. :-)
Super vidéo !!! Thk
What simulator is this? It’s just what I need!
@@wildgoobsid5 Heli-X
Thanks!
Thanks Mike, much appreciated ☺️
Can you pretty please do a tutorial on how to do flipping funnels and flipping hurricanes. Would like to see what's going on when someone does it correctly.
What sort of flipping? The kind where you flip forwards/backwards from the direction of travel, or the one where you flip in/out while doing the circle?
@@rchelicopter I think the latter is what I was I was referencing. I really like the hurricane where they do elevator flips in the hurricane switching from blades in to skids in while keeping in a clockwise hurricane for example. The other one is the same premise but the flips are taking place while flying either an upright or inverted pie dish/funnel.
@@Edgecrusher28 I've added that one to the list. Hopefully next week.
Excellent. Didn’t find what SIM you are using
Thanks. Heli-X!
Richard I have NeXt simulator. It works ok but in terms of a guided trainer for specific maneuvers it is lacking. What sim would you suggest that will teach you eD maneuvers?
What software are you using in your video here?
I don't think any of them do a particularly good job of guided trainer. RealFlight has some hovering exercises, but I've never managed to get beyond level 27.
Heli-X has some hovering exercises as well, but probably not what you're after I imagine.
This was Heli-X. You can try it out for free. I think it just limits the helis and fields, and there's a popup occasionally, but very usable.
great video, very helpful, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
@@rchelicopter yes, the screenshots of the main positions for half piro and full piro flips are so helpful for me to understand the main targets. I wish you and your great channel much success!
What model are you flying in Heli-X here? I've never seen this model. Hoping the add the Dnamic soon.
I think that's the Tron 5.5 I think.
I believe Tron send the 3D files to Michael direct, so it may be something he's already working on.
Hi Richard, I can more or less do piroflips but as soon as I increase the speed of the tail. Do you have any advice for that?
I also have trouble staying in the same place when I do piroflips, the helicopter goes off in all directions.
Essentially piro flips are really difficult, and because the tail can be fast, I couldn't find a quick way of fixing them. I think it just takes time, not something you can fix in a weekend. Vary the practice and speed, make sure you do a few every day. Try them from standstill as well as pirouetting. Try them with half, 1 and 2 piros, and they will come.
@@rchelicopter Thanks Richard, I'll keep going.
@@rchelicopter Thank you very much Richard for your method, the movement is starting to sink in and I'm doing it faster and faster. I wanted to tell you that I appreciate your help for novices ;). I'm starting on the right side now.
Wich simulator IS this ?
Heli-X
what simulator is this? i might want to give it a try. Thanks
Heli-X. You can try without buying.
Awesome. I’ll try it. Thanks
Nice😍 Where can we get the installer for this Sim
www.heli-x.info/cms/download-2/
What sim u on?
@@jackstratfull6865 Heli-X mostly
Is this on Heli-X?
Yes
What simulator is this in?
Heli-X
@rchelicopter thanks I been using Phoenix so you think heli-x is better for learning. I been thinking of buying a new sim but can't figure out which one
@@jodymorrison9495 Heli-X is the only one getting updates at the moment with new models. You can try for free to make sure it works on your system. neXt has almost stopped doing updates, but might still be worth it.
Thanks!