Yeah, I'm glad my mum took that seriously. I never had social media except for Facebook at 13, and I almost never used it, I wasn't even allowed to put my birthday into it.
About 8 years ago when my son was 6, back in the day of CraigsList, I posted our bikes up for sale. I didn't think anything of it that my son was in the picture. I posted the photos and I immediately got a response back from a woman telling me to take the photos of my son down. She said it was the quickest way to get a predator over to my house pretending to be interested in the bikes. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up and I got chills. It had never occurred to me the danger I was putting my son in. I took the whole ad down and just donated the bikes. I am so grateful for this woman. She defined the way I parent and protect my son to this day. I pray more women and families listen to women like you. The protection of our children should be our #1 concern.
Good for you for taking her seriously and not getting offended!! I mightve been a tad offended not even gonna lie, I’m stubborn. Honestly, we need more women like her to speak up in sticky situations like that!
That’s good. People need to stop being on the defense. She was looking out for him. Unfortunately peoples egos are more telling nowadays. Also the CCP is monitoring Tik tok so I stay off all together
As a child, I always felt like I was being watched in the bathroom, like a secret camera was in there with me. Can you IMAGINE that being true?! That's exactly what these kids are experiencing!! 😭
Same here. Felt it all the time as a kid. Later learnt that jinns (devils) loved staying in toilets. I read my dua for protection now before entering the toilet.
Someone I had on Facebook made a whole post about their daughter’s SA story and how brave she was. Her daughter was at the time 18 but had been SA’d since she was a kid by an family friend. I was shocked that a mom would feel like she had the right to share something so private about their child and make the decision to divulge something so personal.
Omg… I have been through something similar and if my mom did that to me I would be so so upset. Like mortified. It would be hard to not dissociate and have to re-read the post over and over until I could process that it’s indeed real. Ugh that’s awful..
my mom never posted anything online thankfully but she did tell family and friends stuff like this in regards to me, some of whom tactlessly clued me in that she'd told them (for which i'm actually thankful & i'm sure my mom wasn't as it solidified my desire for her to know absolutely none of it) and to this day i still have no idea who in my family's circle of relatives and friends knows these things about me that i hadn't even willingly told my parents in the first place and my relationship with my mom is permanently damaged, to the extent that almost 10 years after this occurred my mom still knows very little about my private life even when i'm doing well
this is awful but also dangerous, cause creeps seek out people who have been victims, im speaking from experience that when i told people about my csa they went on to hurt me too
THIS!!! i remember being mad and hurt at my mom for talking about my personal issues and literal trauma to the FAMILY. i can’t even fathom the whole world like you said, we need to start a petition to implement child safety and protection laws on the internet and as influencers bc that would’ve RUINED me.
My mom literally made sure everybody on instagram knew I had surgery and had a mass removed then got violently sick with lime disease while still healing and could barely walk and wasn’t eating for weeks honestly wtf 😐
That takes it too far. That's HER life she's talking about with her friends. You're not the ONLY person that matters. If you don't want your mom to have to bitch about you to SOMEONE don't give her a reason to bitch. Her life matters too. Also did you ever think maybe you're bad behavior was a betrayal to your mother? Did you ever think you were the one who did the betraying not her? Did you ever think maybe you were the problem? Or are you in narcissistic asshole?
What scary is we used to tell children to be careful with strangers on the Internet because you never know what could happen and now we’re having to teach parents this lesson and I’m very confused on how we’re going backwards.
That’s exactly what’s happening we’re just going completely backwards like becoming everything we’ve worked to not be building up this generation it’s so sad
It’s called “progressivism”. Society has gone so far backwards that people don’t know the difference between a man and a woman these days. People think men can menstruate and get pregnant. It’s pretty simple. If you were born with spérm, you’re a dude, and you can’t menstruate or get pregnant. If you were born with eggs and ovaries, you’re a woman, and you have the only reproductive system capable of carrying a baby and nourishing it for 9 months. If you were born with spèrm, and you shop for tampons, and claim you’re having severe menstrual cramps, and you think you’re pregnant, please get some help. At the rate society is going backwards, imagine what things will be like in another decade or so.🤦🏼♀️
Yeah It's this new generation who are social media obsessed. They feel they have to film & document everything for views & likes , it's very sad & annoying 🙄🤦♀️. If social media was shutdown tomorrow for good ,I literally would NOT miss it. The only social media i browse is UA-cam, which is also problematic at times .
Years ago, I took an FBI training that included analyzing seemingly innocent pics with children from a predator's perspective. It was a disturbing but educational experience. It convinced me that there is no such thing as a harmless image of a child.
@@tripendicular When my daughter was younger, I posted some pics of her on FB, but restricted visibility to close friends and family only. That's honestly what I would recommend to anyone. If I couldn't restrict it, I wouldn't post it. If I would be comfortable with that person being in my daughter's proximity, they can see pics. Otherwise, not a chance. At the same training, even back then, we were shown some of the horrific alterations done to or with children's images. While I understand it's not actually that child or a child at all, I just couldn't stand the idea of someone doing anything like that to an image of my child.
@@jolenejoleeene I've once accidentally came across those altered pics years ago when the internet was still a bit wilder with circulating the most horrific shit. I was about 16 back then and I will never be able to unsee this. I don't want kids but I'm an aunt of 4 and I made my two older siblings keep a tight grip on what they posted. My older brothers ex was a lot more free about what she posted of my two youngest nieces and I can still remember sitting her down and explaining to her in detail what people do with even the most innocent pictures. She was also posting less innocent stuff like bikini pictures on the beach which are of course completely harmless if you aren't a creep but she had it out there and not restricted. I'm 30 now and I have never shared a picture of any of these kids and would only consider it now for my oldest niece because she is 17 and can consent and my nephew who is 20 and an adult and obviously can consent too. I also don't post pictures of friends unless I've asked and deemed them safe and I routinely have always posted stuff privately. I really don't understand how people can be this free about their kids.
@@DieAlteistwiederda i sincerely believe its because they think it wont happen to them. whether its out of willful ignorance or the financial incentive to keep making content doesn't matter to them. and if it were to happen (which is a very real concern and im surprised it hasn't happened yet), i unfortunately forsee parents trying to monetize that too as a sob story.
I am about to have my first child and I have wondered about how I am going to deal with this a lot. I don't have/ don't use any social media sites anymore. I mostly just use Pinterest and Twitter for my social media fix. I don't really post anything personal on either of those websites. I am worried about my mom and my mother-in-law posting pictures of my kids online. Especially my mother in law because she loves sharing her entire life online. I am wondering if I should ask my husband to speak with her about it or whether I should say something to her myself before the baby is even born or just wait until the bay is born and say that we prefer for our child's face to not be online. I am not sure how to approach her about it. She could post a picture that has my child in it, but their face isn't showing would be fine. Anyone have any good ideas of how to approach the topic and what to do if she gets offended? I guess I could always tell her that I am the parent and I am allowed to make rules for my children.
After reading Jennette McCurdy’s book I’m Glad My Mom Died and knowing how her own mom exploited and abused her I find it super disturbing parents are doing all of these things but online for everyone to see. People are way too trusting of the internet and have no idea how much they’re hurting their kids in the long run.
It also brings to light the idea that can kids actually *consent* to being on social media/televisions/movies? They don’t understand what they’re giving up/the consequences/benefits, so how can they make that decision, even if they say yes? Jennette’s story (and a lot of child actors) discusses how her want was purely to make her happy. That’s not consent 😬
exactly they’re way too trusting. and whenever u point it out to them they’ll say ur “victim blaming” like nobody is defending predators, we’re just saying that bad people also have internet access and they will use it to do bad things.
@@chefbetsy9094My mom used to watch her channel back in like 2016-2019 or so, and it was so weird watching her slowly transition into that type of exploitative mom. Really sad.
Even if she was feeling relief from some good news from a doctor, can you imagine being another parent there in the NICU with you child, worried to death and seeing this ditzy broad dancing around like it's party time in there? Wtf?
Agreed...Even if someone did a dance in a weird break of reality as an odd way to cope, the most disturbing thing of all is to record it, then have the mental awareness and time to sit and review the video, edit it, and then post it. Bcuz after all that, even the farthest of reaches can't excuse that behavior as anything else but pure callousness. It's psychopathic.
My daughter was in the NICU for 3 months. She was born with a ❤ defect. Had surgery at 2 mos old. They let me stay in her room for a month during recovery. I could barely eat! How can anyone be dancing 😔
I think it’s completely cringey and weird when I see somebody setting their phone up in a public place to make a video. I can only imagine what those nurses and doctors would be thinking had they seen some mom doing tik tok dance in front of their sick child in the nicu.
THANK YOOOOOOOU i wish more people would speak up about how bloody DANGEROUS and DAMAGING using your children for content is!! for a multitude of reasons! ugh
I totally agree with this. Remember that feeling when you heard your mom on the phone telling someone about an embarrassing thing you did? I do. I’m almost thirty. My heart still has that sinking feeling thinking about it. I feel like my mom liked embarrassing me when I did something wrong.
Ooohh girl, yep...so many horribly embarrassing memories. My mom used to tell her family & friends EVERYTHING about me. I KNOW she liked embarrassing me!!
Yep. And even if you say please don’t tell anyone else’s they will still tell their friends because they have a right to tell their friends 🙄 why I don’t tell my mom a lot of stuff as a adult now. She just gossips and labels it as catching up with her friends
God Bless my mom and dad they were just never open with anyone 😂 I don’t know if that’s not normal they never really had openness with anyone but each other and I’m now so glad at 34 they didn’t bc it’s just not something to be talked about. My aunt was the only one we shared with but she had two girls and that’s all we needed and felt comfortable with.
I was born with quite a few deformities that had to be corrected with surgery. At 4 years old I broke my femur and it was only at 19 years old that the doctors realized what was wrong, and performed the right surgery. I've only been walking for the past 9 years, sometimes with support. But I've spent 28 years being embarrassed with a mother telling complete strangers my story. Colleges, shop attendants, family friends, people walking their dogs on the beach, basically anyone who just looked at my scars would get a full download; from infancy to adulthood. I've had a lot of health problems, but I've had no privacy. My consent was never asked. Here you don't know who I am, and here I can share a little of my own story, but it is my choice. I have to beg my mother not to tell people about my private life and then she always gets defensive. Please, please, please... DON'T put your children on ANY social media. Live for your children. Live wisely.
People really have kids and think they own them. It’s so controlling and gross. Like, here’s my non-autonomous dancing monkey. I’m sorry you grew up with no privacy.
YES. I’m disabled and chronically ill and my mom would just start explaining my whole (private) life story with random people and it was so uncomfortable, dehumanizing, and embarrassing. These kids with influencer parents are going to have such a tough time while they grow up and in adulthood because everything about them is exposed, vulnerable, and picked at. It’s just awful.
Same thing happened with me I’m 18 years old but when I was younger my mom will tell everyone about my skin condition ichthyosis when people would ask she would explain every little detail when people ask me and I get to answer I tell them what I think they need to know I tell them what it is and that I am completely fine but my mom thinks that she needs to tell them everything every surgery I’ve had every thing that I do for my skin and sometimes she even shows pictures of me when I was younger versus now because she thinks that I am some big inspiration that people should be inspired by me just walking around and living a normal life she would always say look at my daughter she couldn’t walk when she was five isn’t that crazy like dude stop they don’t need to know that just let them think that I’m a normal kid who has a skin condition don’t tell them everything
Parents who seem to live through their childrens disabilities are creepy. I am hearing disabled, have scoliosis, bowel disease, migraine and was born with 11 fingers. My parents never shared any of it unless it was relevant. Only people who knew about my hearing disability etc. were teachers and people who saw me so regularly they would notice something is not normal. Teachers needed to know because it benefitted me that they know and the people we saw regularly would have started to wonder why I'm seeing doctors monthly when I was a toddler.
I literally almost DIED because of my medical condition and my mom dumps every tiny traumatic detail of it on the mailman with a big smile like! how do you see this as ok??? what do you gain from this??? she didn't even wait, she was telling random strangers *while i was in the hospital*
the mom pressuring her daughter to say out loud what got her own mother pregnant, explicitly, in public not only irl but online, is borderline abusive. it's harassment. the purity ring makes it creepier. imagine if a kid wanted to ask questions during the talk but they can't bc they know thousands of people are watching WTF?????
France’s new child influencer laws are so great. I’m really glad they’ve put so much thought into them. I wish the US, and other countries, would follow their lead.
@@the_hottest_vitch I’m referencing the one she talked about in the video. Sorry I don’t have more info 😅 I wrote this a while ago But basically they put stricter restrictions on how kids can can be exposed online for monetary gain. To keep them from being exploited As with the internet, I would fact check it as I am definitely not an expert!
The US doesn’t care and says parents should have the freedom to choose that they do with their own kids. I’ve seen the same thing with parents defending their decision to allow their kids to not wear a helmet when doing dangerous things like riding 4 wheelers or horses
As a parent who likes to consume parenting content-the creators I respect and listen to the most don’t show their kids at all. I have zero idea what their children even look like and they still manage to put out content that reaches millions of parents. They still succeed and make a living without exploiting their chikdren. There are no excuses.
Same!! I watch a few not many but 3/4 and I have no idea how many kids genders or ages and I’m ok with that. I’ve learned so much from them and respect them
See, that I can respect- giving advice, product reviews, blogs, how-to's, etc WITHOUT involving their child/ren in their video. I'm mortified by these tiktoks with children involved. I also don't think kids should have social media until they're at the very least 17. I don't even have kids, but all of that is way, way, wayyy too damn much.
Do you think this is something “normal” everyday parents should do as well? I have a private IG and will sometimes post family photos there (never anything embarrassing for my kids - like their health issues or tantrums) but now I’m rethinking even that. Wondering your thoughts as a fellow parent.
you can educate parents without exposing your children and that's what they don't care about because they know if they show their kids they'll get more money and views.
I don’t understand how, if you genuinely love a child, you could continuously humiliate them online (which will be around FOREVER), and endlessly expose them to predators. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Parents are supposed to protect their kids, not further set them up for danger.
These type of “parents” sincerely don’t care about their kids rights to privacy. (Thank God we were born before social media was around!). my impression is that they don’t realize their kids WILL grow up and be adults one day and won’t be happy about these postings, shared to the world. I’ve become more aware of that myself but still, it’s mind boggling how many parents don’t care about their kids privacy- they only care about THEIR own following, views and perceived fame 🙄😑
It's not embarrassing to be a kid and do kid things. And people shouldn't have to stop sharing cute kid videos because some weirdos will look at them creepily? There are obviously limits, like don't post inappropriate things or put the kids in actual physical danger. But I don't understand the attitude of - creepy men exist, therefore let's live our lives in a completely different way just so that they don't think creepy things about us?? Why give them that much control?
To anyone thinking she’s being an alarmist: an immediate family member of mine worked in an office that did rehabilitation and case management for sex offenders. This stuff - the hashtag monitoring, the photo sharing networks - is too real.
What's more alarming is when a sex offender is actively on probation or parole, it's quite common (especially with cases where the victim was a minor and/or the predator utilized the internet to commit their crime) for one of their conditions not allowing them to use social media. But then once they've completed their probation or parole after however many years, even though they're still on the registry they can join social media again. The offenders this might apply to (it varies state to state) can be those convicted of crimes like statutory rape and attempted solicitation of a minor. Crimes that carry a max sentence of ~10 years give or take. Of course, those are just the ones that got caught and are known.
My favorite part is when those people claim they do it for „educational purposes“. As if raising children was this brand new thing no one has ever done before. Thank god for these wise social media moms who finally teach us on how to potty train kids. 🙏
specially considering that their parenting methods are always crap like I'm not a parent, but you don't have to be a pilot to witness an airplane crash.
I agree people do it wrong sometimes, but some people do it right. I just had twin boys and have looked to a lot of people online for advise on different struggles I’m having because no one in my life has twins. Some people never babysat or had younger siblings so they might not know how to do things like potty train or deal with certain situations. Now again there is a difference between being informative and exploitative. And you’re right that to be informative you don’t typically need to show your kids.
Can you imagine being the families of the other kids in the NICU? Going through the worst time of your life and she’s dancing in the corner? Even if she knew her child would recover, that doesn’t mean that all the kids will. You’re trying to survive your child’s final moments and she’s throwing a party! I’m SO glad my hospital has a no phone/video policy.
I Agree 100%! I've had a fair bit of experience in the NICU, having had 6 premature babies. Even when we got good news, like life or death good news, we were subdued in our celebration because we were very aware that another mother in earshot may have just been given the opposite news. I would be openly disgusted by this behaviour.
I agree. Three of my kids were NICU babies and and for my twins I was still hospitalized myself for over a week after their birth to recover. I couldn't imagine me trying to recover myself from almost not making it while spending time with my kids who also barely made and seeing another mom dancing in the NICU. It would have came off as so obscene and hurtful. Wtf is wrong with people?
This is the reason why I respect influencer/youtube parents who DO NOT show their children or say anything about their children on THEIR platforms - *CHILDREN ARE NOT PROPS*
When I was a teenager - severly depressed, suffering from PTSD and being suicidal because of it - my mother told all her friends about my mental health struggles. Luckily only in IRL but still. So thank you for being angry about stuff like this. A stranger on the internet has more compassion for children being exploited than their actual parents. Thank you.
On the one hand, I can understand her, telling like one or two if she herself was struggling on how to handle it for you as a parent, but if you just blatantly told everybody just so she could have sympathy from them or something then yeah that’s horrible
@@ElinWinbladagree of course it doesn’t need to be shared all over but sometimes parents will discuss something with a friend that is a parent also. Sometimes they are not sure what to do and said friend might be able to give some advice
I know a lot of these parents say they get their child’s permission before posting them…not realizing that a minor, especially very very young children, have no clue what that even means..They can’t provide informed consent..so it doesn’t count..Asking a 5 yr old if it’s okay, doesn’t mean crap.. I really appreciate this video!
At that age, all their opinions are based on what their parents do and don't approve of. Children look up to the people who raise them, so even if they don't want to be posted publicly they're more likely to go along with it anyway to make their parents happy
As an autistic adult, I would have been MORTIFIED if my parents had used my life as content. Education about autism shouldn't include disclosing your child's personal and intimate life. I'm really concerned for this generation of children who's lives will be so documented & shared before they can even grasp the concept of consent.
There was one woman who had a disabled child (I can’t remember the child’s exact disability but they were immobile and required a wheelchair) who literally took photos of her changing her child’s incontinence pad on the floor of a McDonald’s because she wanted to “raise awareness” about the lack of accessible facilities at fast food restaurants. Literally her child on the floor of a McDonald’s bathroom with their pants down 😳
As an autistic adult, "autism mommies" make me physically sick. Listen to autistic adults, neuroclastic and other such autistic community led information sources if you wanna learn about autism. (never Autism Speaks)
@@chilltheheckoutwithava1454 and the fact its only the daughters, and usually the father that "owns’ them until theyre married makes it even more gross
Out of all the videos shown in this video that was the one that made feel the most grossed out. Giving a promise ring to an 8 year old?? Disgusting. I’m so glad this is not a thing in my country.
the restaurant sex conversation was TERRIFYING to witness… the way the mother is trying to make her daughter say something explicit for views. you can explain safe sex to children by stating FACTS that they have curiosities about and not asking silly questions or making a child uncomfortable.
It’s by NEN fam (not enough Nelson’s) and it’s called “having the talk with NayVee) they did ask her permission to post and haven’t posted their other kids who weren’t comfortable. Not saying it’s not odd but 🤷🏼♀️
@@mackaroni9792 She is 11 in this video. She was old enough to consent. A younger kid I’d agree with with no hesitation that it’s not appropriate. For NayVee tho I think she’s old enough. They also gave her a purity ring in this video and explained that to her and stuff. I think that it’s weird but I’m just saying I have a brother her age and am 15 myself and still think she knew what was happening for the most part. She can have it removed when she’s older if she’s uncomfortable.
@@Emily-fe6yb be real, 11 year Olds still don't understand what posting things on the internet entail, how nothing can really be deleted from the internet, etc. Why are you making excuses? What is the benefit of posting these things? None, but there's a list about a mile long of reasons not to You really think an 11 year old grasps the predators watching this content? Get real
I cannot imagine my kids walking around their school and everybody knows everything about them including personal daily lives. It’s ridiculous that parents do this in this day and age. Let alone the predators, it’s just not normal!!
omg i was so focused on the predators it didn't occur to me that these kids' peers have access to their videos too. imagine everyone in your high school has seen you potty training?!?!?! mortifying
That’s another difference with child actors, their peers are seeing them play a character. They aren’t putting personal embarrassing moments out there to be seen and judged. Not that child acting doesn’t have its own problems but at least there is that layer of separation from their personal lives.
Yep, and it's sad, I wouldn't have thought about that 30 years ago, but people are gross, and the internet made it easier for that stuff, I guess. I would never have thought anything about my child eating a hot dog being a bad thing that's how far gone some people are.
“I’m sorry for my absence. My child had a fairly major injury, however he is fine now. Please give me some time to help my son recover and content will continue.” It’s that easy.
If I’m right that’s pretty much the approach Elise Myers took and then got bullied off for not talking about global atrocities while dealing with a sick son
Honestly who cares about absences from social media? Are people just watching one person and can't survive without their content? That's wild to me that people feel need to say "Sorry, I didn't post today."
This issue of parents posting their nonconsenting children online is going to be one of the biggest blights on the Millennial generation as parents. In 10-15 years we will absolutely be seeing the documentaries and reading the tell alls of children who grew up with these parents, and I suspect many children will cut off their parents entirely. It’s horrific that we are just accepting this as normal in many cases. It truly feels like a minority of people have an issue with this.
These millennial parents are exactly the reason why the two extremes exist- the side where the parents are overly exposing their kids to the Internet and why the other side (my side) are overly avoidant of their kids being on any technology.
I don't believe this is an accurate representation of parents in general. Out of All the parents you know in your actual life how many are doing this? I think the vast majority of people know this is wrong and don't condone or participate in this. Yes. These kids will have issues and we will hear about it, all that is true. But that doesn't mean it's an issue with an entire generation. There have been massive issues with child actors coming to light over the past few decades. That doesn't mean every parent would be okay with their kid being a famous actor.
You sound like a mom who has maternal instinct. I have a severely disabled son who has had severe medical emergencies which require hospital stays. I have 3 other children who all have ended up in the emergency room and I never even thought about recording a video to post online. My only concern was the health of my children. I’m blown away by the amount of parents who use their childrens misfortune in an attempt to post videos so people can watch. When kids are in the hospital they deserve the same amount of privacy as adults. There are so many reality shows on and it seems like being admitted to the hospital is the best way to garner attention. When my kids get hurt I tend to panic even though I was an emt for years and became a deputy sheriff. I’ve seen everything but when it happens to my children all my experience and training goes out the window. I have to calm myself down and let muscle memory kick in. These days women get pregnant for outside attention then use their children to get attention. It’s really sad.
I starting crying when during my wife first pregnancy the baby heart beat went off monitor. I guess it's normal nurse came in told my wife to roll a certain way, it came back on and nurse left. it was Cleary no big deal and it took me 30 mins to stop shaking
Same! I didn’t tell social media for over 3 months when I had my youngest! Like I was getting messages from people concerned because I went from being pregnant to silent (friends obviously) but my baby was the only thing on my mind
My daughter was in the ICU (at age 3) for about 5 days. By the second day we knew she was going to be OK, but it didn’t stop me from breaking down in tears every time I left her room or ran home for supplies. It took so long to recover from the fear and utter panic of that entire event. It’s been over 10 years and I still remember how it felt …and it bordered on desperation. But it wasn’t just my own experience in being on the pediatric ICU. I would take her for walks by pulling her in a little wagon with an IV pole attached. I tried not to be nosy, but it was hard to ignore the fact that some of those kids didn’t have the positive outcome my child had. It was clear some of those kids might not make it home. I would’ve felt horrible celebrating my child’s wins in that type of environment. So So SO many other parents and families were suffering with unbearable pain and experiencing just a glimpse of that was incredibly humbling I think it’s thoughtless and self-serving that this mother created a TikTok dance video like this. I think she did it for views and clout and engagement rather than a true expression of her relief. Can you imagine how other parents with kids in the NICU at the same time felt watching her video?
i had to stay in the hospital for a few days right after i was born and my mom still gets emotional about having had to go home and some point and leave me at the hospital. she always says “i was absolutely beside myself”❤ and she would get scared and call the doctor because i was a quiet baby and rarely cried….
100% been in this situation with my 18 month old and RSV & spewed in my mouth when I saw this. Dancing when my kid is hooked up to machines to eat and breathe, and doctors can't find a cannulation position to give fluids is just the craziest concept. This is next-level insane
Good for you. Your child will appreciate it and your memories will be precious and private to you and your family. I am so grateful that the internet did not exist when I was a child with my parents our memories are ours They don't belong to anybody else nor the worlds I do share things now because there are very serious lessons to be learned from what happened to us but it's what I choose to share. I am grateful that I'm allowed to share what I share
Yeah, also pregnant. It's just not worth it. I can send cute pictures to my trusted friends and family to enjoy. The internet doesn't need to see my kids.
We have decided to do the same, I gave birth to our first several months ago. Try to do your best to communicate your wishes to your parents, if your partner is in the picture make sure his family is aware as well… we have run into issues with other people posting pictures of our little one. Not because they’re rebelling but because they forget, and deleting it is good but it’s never fully deleted… you never know the kinds of people who follow, even if the account is set to private. Often times there are people you know that are using these photos… wishing you the best. Sometimes you’ll feel “left out” because you don’t post baby but the cons definitely outweigh the pros.
Just gonna lean into being old with a "when I grew up story." When I grew up we were told not to have our names on backpacks or clothes so people couldn't pretend to know us. Now people drive around with cars with their kids' names on them and make them social media accounts and hashtags with their child's full name. People are lost.
I was born in 93, my parents NEVER let me wear clothes with my name on it or have my name on my backpack. Nothing like that. Bc of exactly what you said, they told me people could use that to trick me into thinking they know me & kidnap me. Also would never let me wear clothes that had writing on the butt or anything that said “spoiled, princess, brat” etc. I am the same way now with my daughter. I just can’t believe what people are doing nowadays
That’s one of the weirdest things for me as someone born in 1997 - we were taught all of those safety things, at the same time that our parents were discovering social media. It’s like all of the stranger danger talks went out the window, parents were posting every detail about their kids all while telling us not to give any information about ourselves.
Right our parents use to write our names on a little tag inside out backpack or on the bottom so the teacher could know if its lost but safety is lack luster these days people don’t want to parent children everyone is just concerned with looking good online it’s sick.
Those same people will tell you how much more dangerous it is now, how you never know who's out there, etc, right after posting a video with basically all of their kid's names, ages and daily activity schedules.
@@unropednope4644I disagree - I think this era of kids will be worse. Child stars at least had some level of “privacy” because they weren’t filmed and on camera 24/7
I suspect narcissistic parents are in many of these family social media accounts. Showing kids using the bathroom, discussing sexual content, or any type of violation toward the child that puts them in a compromised position could be viewed as covert abuse. Their lack of boundaries and need for attention are red flags as well. Thank you for posting this video to spread awareness.
Thank you for posting this comment; I completely agree with you 💯. (Now that I'm an adult I wish we had - and kids now had - a better education in school about psychology, mental health issues, parenting styles, personality disorders, emotional maturity etc. Getting a crash course in what's been done to us and having a nervous breakdown in one's 40's or 50's is ill-advised.) 🤦🏻♀️ 🫶✌️
@@tiffanyblack8755 definitely. I'm a psych student and I started crying in a lecture about child abuse, because that was the first time I fully recognized that it had happened to me. It was hard to sit through and cry in secret, but if it wasn't for that lecture, I wouldn't be where I am today. It should absolutely be taught in school! I think this wouldn't only help people seek therapy sooner, but also prevent abuse, because many abusers need you to be oblivious to the fact you're being mistreated, or else they lose their power over you.
@@yeetnama9094 transgender kids have nothing to do with online safety what? weirdo transphobes like you always find a way to rope trans people into issues that have nothing to do with them. Just shut up and leave us alone
People have been potty training their kids for YEARS without the need for “influencers” to show them how. I need these mums to so BFFR right now about educational content.
Right?! And even if you argued it was good to teach people, you could do it without showing the kid, naming the kid, etc. make a step by step meme and share it without the kid attached to it
Coming from someone who was groomed at 13-14 by a 21yo I commend you for your videos and I completely agree that children do NOT belong on the internet.
@@ryanbayer1012 I am sorry that happened to you. Things like that really do affect you throughout life in different ways. I have no words for parents who prioritize money over the safety and health of their children. It's disgusting.
@Sandistia I hope you're doing better today 🩷. It's been nearly a decade since I was groomed and thankfully my parents put a real quick stop before something worse could've happened. Unfortunately I think I was too young to understand what happened at just 12, so I can confidently say that these young children most certainly don't know what's going on! I hope these parents put a stop to it!
@@ryanbayer1012 I am doing better today. I really started to do better when I saw it for what it was. Unfortunately, my mother was unaware for a few years and ended up giving my virginity to this predator when I was only 14. At the time I really believed they cared for me and it was real. I can confirm that children this young do not fully understand what is going on and what it means to be sexually active especially with someone so much older. I hope that you were able to heal from your experience. ❤
Oh we're going to see a GoFundMe on him He is going to be used to raise funds meaning money for his copays MRIs aren't cheap His medication is going to be this He needs glasses he needs this he needs that owe you bet he's going to fund their lifestyle. Poor little guy instead of loving him and giving him the privacy he needs to grow up not to be bullied but to be loved appreciated and respected for who he is He's going to be a UA-cam star
As a disabled person that statement boggled my mind. The kid is like 2 years old he barely has a personality, it’s okay if his chronic illness/disorder defines him at this stage in his life. It’s quite literally been his whole life up to this point. As he gets older it will become just a part of him as a person. But he’s literally a toddler. Name any toddler that doesn’t define themselves by one specific interest or character trait😂 children will typically do that till around age 6 or 7. It just felt so strange to use language that disabled adults have had to use to get BASIC respect for a child who barely knows who he is.
Had a girl from my high school class post a picture of her young daughter completely naked on Facebook - you could see EVERYTHING and I found it super disturbing. This was much earlier in facebooks days (circa 2010-2011 maybe?) so their censors didn’t catch it right away. Eventually it was removed after several people (including myself) reported it to Facebook but the mother then took to her page to complain that the photo was removed. Saying things like “oh it wasn’t meant to be a sex thing you all are disgusting for looking at my daughter that way” but also like…you could see her daughter’s private areas. Her daughter deserves privacy online just like everyone else. I just found her reaction super frustrating, like she didn’t see her daughter as her own individual person who deserves to not have her junk shown to everyone online.
The mom who made the video in the hospital….makes a video smiling and dancing when discussing her child’s (potentially fatal) health issue but crying when she gets backlash on the internet about it. Wow.
Personally I think it should be illegal to have minors on social media ESPECIALLY TIKTOK. There is zero consent from this exploited kids.These parents are disgusting.
Before I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder a few years ago, I had a lot of very emotional, manic depressive episodes in high school. My mom would record videos of me on her phone, not to post, but so I could “watch them later to see how crazy I’m acting” and it was so unbelievably heartbreaking and traumatic for me. Even knowing that no one else would see it, the idea that I was being recorded in my most vulnerable state still really bothers me as an almost 29 yo woman. To imagine children having their lives exploited for financial gain and views on social media for the world to see by their own parents, who are supposed to protect them and comfort them, is inconceivable. Thank you for speaking on this.
That sounds awful. Absolutely fine if you don't want to answer but were you aware of these episodes? Like even if you didn't know what they were or while you were in them were you aware afterwards? Either way it's horrible and traumatic but if you weren't aware how would you have preferred your family to try and express that to you? (Mean this completely genuinely, just unsure what I would do if it were my child that wouldn't be traumatising and invasive to them)
@Heather Petersen Oh def agree, I thought it wasn't about trying to make them prevent or change it but like literally just being like hey can you see that this isn't usual for you and something is wrong that we should speak to a doctor or smthg if they weren't being believed for some reason. 100% disgusting if you're trying to use it to shame or manipulate someone into changing behaviour/patterns they can't help and aren't in control of. Like was asking purely about awareness because I can see how it could get tricky if your kid/family was genuinely unaware that they were going through episodes and didn't believe you when you said so
Can’t wait for the tell-alls from these children in 20 years. There needs to be laws against this, can’t leave it to stupid parents to exercise basic judgment.
It will be the typical, the laws won't change until children/people are hurt. It's very sad. Though I hope all these youtubers shedding light on this will make a difference.
“thankfully now been deleted” if i had a videos of my kid on the internet that 17 million people were potentially watching i would not be able to shut my eyes ever again thinking how many people saved that to their phones
I used to watch family channels when I was younger, and I remember I accidentally stumbled upon this one family that had like daily vlog updates with titles like "no period yet", "acne but still no period" basically updating about one of their daughters, like W H A T? It was so disturbing, I wish I remembered the channel name just so I could report them.
@@psychedelic.dreamerjust what i was thinking. if i remember correctly there was one video of one of their (ruby frankie + the dad’s) younger daughter’s first leg/armpit shave, and she didn’t want it recorded, but obviously Ruby had to record it against her daughter’s wishes and upload it for the whole world to see. it was honestly so sad (and gross)
It was 8 passengers. Ruby Franke is doing prison time for severely abusing her children. Family channels should be banned. Nothing good ever comes from them.
My mom tried to become UA-cam famous by making me and my siblings do vlogging but we all ended up hating it because it ruined genuine and good family moments. We all ended up all resenting her a lot for pushing the vlog. Eventually we all refused to be a part of it anymore.
I was a NICU nurse and I cannot imagine seeing a mom do this. Possibly if their child or children are going home after a very long stay in the NICU, but not for RSV. If I had been working that shift, I’d have stopped that right away. This is so inappropriate. So many babies in that same NICU that time likely struggling to live and parents dealing with grief, loss, or babies who will leave with permanent illness or injury related to preterm birth or other issues.
this behavior is just so unreal. growing up my mom would ask for permission to post me on FACEBOOK, where it was mainly family and friends, people we KNEW. the respect and privacy my mom gave me growing up is something im grateful for.
my mom did the same thing for me once i explained to her this exact phenomenon like… 13 years ago. now she judges other people for posting their little kids and stuff haha
So many people seem to think of their children as possessions or extensions of themselves rather than separate human beings, so to them, sharing their kids' info isn't much different from sharing their own. And social media algorithms reward narcissistic behavior. It's a perfect storm for child exploitation
These people have the mentality that they OWN their children. They see them as extensions of themselves. They see them as literal possessions with no personal autonomy, and they do not respect their privacy because they don't believe that, as minors, they are entitled to any. That's the source of so much of this, and it's disgusting. Thank you for speaking out about this.
basically my thoughts on this. They fail to see their kids as people and (even more crucial) as future adults who have to cope somehow with what their parents did. It may not seem concerning to the parents, but they don't know what struggles will come of it for their kid and how they will feel. If I found out that some disgusting people watched videos of me that my parents put out there despise multiple concerns by others, I would feel so betrayed and probably would develop some very bad mental health issues and hatred of my body because I'm insecure and sensitive af.
Bingo. I shouted "THEY'RE NOT YOUR PROPERTY" probably eight or nine times watching the clips in this video. Just feckin gross behavior. France giving children rights that are NOT secondary to their parents in some way is top notch and we all need to follow suit.
I commented the same thing, these are emotionally immature parenting. Enmeshed parenting style. Adult children of emotionally immature parents by Lindsay C. Gibson is a good book about it
That's textbook narcissism. Like, it is one of the traits of parents who are diagnosed narcissists, is treating their children like accessories or possessions. To them, the child is there to make them feel good about themselves, to make them look good, to gain them approval and attention; they have kids so the kids can make them feel good, not because they want to love and raise a child.
I'm disabled and I appreciate you so much for this. Parents of disabled kids need to get their shit together. Thank you for advocating for the most vulnerable of an already vulnerable community.
@@bethanythatsme those channels feel very cruel. My toddler was recently diagnosed with autism. I know very little about it but have been trying to do a lot of research since she started showing signs. None of the pages or people I follow have to show children to get their education or point across. So these parents claiming “education” for their motives are just disingenuous.
I can't imagine how mortified I would have been if my parents had broadcast my 'where do babies come from" talk to the world. Those poor girls have to go to school the next day and face classmates who saw that. Their mother even made it personal about herself with 'how did the baby get in MY stomach' so it's about the girls' own parents' sex lives - not just a general convo about where babies come from. Childhood is hard enough without that stuff being public. And that's all in addition to the extremely real dangers of predators who would probably love to watch a kid talk about that stuff.
That video reminded me of the 8 passengers, they did something similar (first period, buying first bra etc) 🤮🤮 their kids said they have no friends because of the family channel, everyone thinks they’re weird 🫠 I’m so glad I was born in the 90s and if there are any embarrassing pictures there are “only” in the photo album
I have kids and we've had a general kind of birds and bees talk. Ive told it to them first just babies, in my case, come from the tummy and a doctor cuts them out. Then when my oldest turned 8 she got more curious and wanted to know how the babies get into mommys tummy so I explained that women have eggs in their body and when a mommy and daddy love each other he fertilizes the egg and a baby grows, like planting a seed and watering it then a tree grows but I never explained what sex is because its not necessary at this age and I definitely wouldn't make my child say sexual things. That is sick. That "mother" knows exactly what she's doing.
@@aurora8749 Yeah, age-appropriate honesty is such a good tactic with parenting. Instead of not telling them something because they're too young you just edit the information to be digestible to them. Kids are much more intelligent than people give them credit for.
Omg. It was obvious that the mom was making what should be an informative conversation as embarrassing as possible. But you are right, her asking how the baby got in HER belly. Like. How do you answer that? Why didn’t you properly just EXPLAIN the fertilization process. The mom decided to have this conversation and she is supposed to be guiding it. I had a problem with the way she was smiling like this was all some sort of funny joke. It’s not a joke. Even when her kid covered her face in embarrassment, mom pulled her hands down because she just HAS to get those reactions on camera. How awful. I remember having this conversation with my mom and at no point was it uncomfortable and embarrassing.
50:59 - _"If you're not interesting enough on your own, find a new job...and find a job that does not require you to use your children as puppets or props and your money making endeavours."_ 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thank you for calling out these narcissistic parents Kiki who are making money off their kids' privacy. The Dad Challenge Podcast YT channel also covers parents exploiting their children's privacy and medical information. Pity there aren't more YT channels calling these people out!
Respect for you for actually blurring the children’s faces unlike the parents that are posting it like it’s crazy that you’re the one that has to do that and the parents don’t do it for them as their guardian. It’s wild.
I had a couple of instagram reels with my son in them and upon watching your video I deleted them all! I never gave his name, but he deserves protection and privacy.
Bless you for realizing your responsibility and especially your love for your child. We accidentally make mistakes in raising our kids I'm so glad that you saw the truth. I posted above what happened to my girlfriend when she listened to a professional photographer and put her daughters picture on the cover of their catalog and the front page of their website It turned their life into a nightmare and she lived in fear for many years for her daughter till her daughter didn't look like that anymore because she'd grown but she knew that they had to be so careful It changed their lives forever.
it really is a good thing to hide your child from the internet. they are your precious person❤and you never know who is around and willing to harm them or exploit them unfortunately. better safe than sorry.
12 minutes in and I already have SO MUCH I want to add: 1. As someone in the field of child development and a YT fan for the past 13 years, this particular topic is so important to me. In fact, I did a research proposal to measure the self esteem of kids of family vloggers in the future to see if this phenomenon will have any sort of impact on the kids. I strongly believe it will, but we don't currently have the science to back it up. If we do have the science, then we can push for stricter laws regarding influencer children. But unfortunately, a whole generation of kids will have to be sacrificed first before people will actually do anything. 2. The parents ABSOLUTELY know what they are doing when they post pics of their kids in the tub and eating hot dogs. They know. 3. The lack of internet safety awareness nowadays is actually insane! 12 year olds running around online blasting their age, location and face everywhere like it's no big deal! My boomer parents taught me to expose as little as possible about me online and they never even grew up with the internet! My elementary school computer class went over internet safety. What happened to millennial parents and school boards and adults in general that just let all of this slip through the cracks?
Your research proposal is excellent. I hope you're able to carry it out. The children of the first generation of mommy bloggers are just hitting adulthood and I'm sure there will be some tell all books coming our way soon.
what happened to millennial parents? oh, but nothing dear... they just are still children themselves, so they couldn't be bothered with actual parenting... what happened to school boards? eh, that's a little more complex, but basically in the last few decades money and culture went down while childishness and bigotry (often disguised as some weird concept of politically correct) went up. 🤷♀ also, as long as they can do whatever they want without responsibilities and repercussions, the vast majority of people (parents included) simply couldn't care less about anything else... after all, we're just naked monkeys, in some ages and cultures it's a little more evident than in others. oh, before anyone loose their shit... no, this is not aimed to hurt or denigrate anybody in particular, I'm just a tired historian being dark and sarcastic on purpose...
I'm a millenial and I'm still kn some fandom spaces online and it scares me so much to see these children post everything about themselves online on public accounts... I'm especially worried when they openly list their trauma and triggers cause they're literally giving so much power for someone to hurt them really badly. And then these same kids actually end up thinking you're a creep if you don't have a carrd listing everything about yourself. And I say this as a person who is quite open online. I think maybe some millenial parents think that they were fine online back when it was the wild wild west, and surely their kids know cause they're able to be online more... or maybe these parents never had creepy encounters or didn't get sent shock websites with gore on the, by strangers so that they don't realise what can be out there.
@@nimeryaspawnbrd1049 a “historian” that mixes up “loose” and “lose”? I don’t buy it. the “politically correct” sentiment was quite a dogwhistle as well
I really appreciate that you covering this topic and you properly blur these minors faces/bodies. Sadly there are to many 'expose'-tubers making money out of uncensored footage while saying something like 'here is a video where you can see that the children clearly don't want to be filmed. Lets zoom in!' So thank you!
My son had RSV and was in the NICU, I would have never never ever posted a video for any reason from there. No matter what the doctor had told me. No shame, and no respect to the other patients.
I'm just so baffled by this phenomenon. In school in the 2000s/early 2010s we were made to sit through SO many internet safety PSAs and presentations. The threat of online predators felt like a very immediate concern at all times. We were told never to post photos of ourselves online, use our real names, share our ages, and obviously to never share addresses or the name of your school, or even what city you live in. Social media use was discouraged but they knew it would happen anyway so they made sure we knew how to keep our accounts private, etc. So why are so many people seemingly okay with parents breaking these rules??? And out of curiosity, do they even still do PSAs like that in school or have people given up on internet safety?? Also this puts the parents at risk, too. Kids aren't the only ones who can get hurt bc their info is on the internet.
@@Jogjosmowwdkfseah but all these parents who exploit their kids WERE kids in school during the era of internet safety in the 2000s/2010s. So they know better. It’s not the kids who have a need to learn right now (it’s the parents who do know better). However, yes the kids also need to know. But it’s parents who right now need to know
I had internet safety lessons in elementary school once or twice. I don't remember much but my parents werent invited to school to learn about it as well, so it was never talked about at home. I'm 24
I am SO glad you made this! It's starting to feel like these parents KNOW creeps are looking at their children and they just don't give an ish because it pays them so well. Sick.
Yes, some of them absolutely do, as TheDadChallengePodcast youtube channel literally sent them proof of their kids' videos on pr3da8t0r playlists and showed their S0c1al Blade statistics for how many adults (mostly men) were watching videos of kids bra shopping, talking about periods, etc. His entire channel is dedicated to exposing this growing problem and bringing awareness to the issues of child 3xpl01t8t10n online through family vloggers.
They 100% know. Literally everyone in this day and age knows the dangers of social media (especially if you are an influencer) and especially when you can SEE for yourself that thousands of grown men are liking and commenting on pictures of your toddler 🤢 They ignore it..sadly. Because exploiting their children is how they make their income.
Look at parents of child celebrities in the entertainment industry. This is the same thing. Also, not all children that are preyed upon and get trafficked are kidnapped. I hate to be blunt and talk about something uncomfortable, but people think it's random strangers all the time, when it's more often relatives, guardians, etc. that exploit their children or relative's children.
I recently vacationed with my husbands' family friend that had their 13 year old daughter come along. I was FLOORED with how much the mom was on social media posting about her, her daughter in bathing suits, and grabbing her phone to have control over what her daughter posted(posting FOR her).. wtf? thanks for bringing light to this!
I get the impression that a lot of these parents don't view their children as actual people. They aren't individuals with their own thoughts and desires, they're accessories to be used by the parent as they see fit. Really sad.
Does it really surprise anyone? Look at how many people were up in arms by the RvW decision? To those people they don’t think of kids as much beyond a choice of choosing a new pet.
In the '90s, I was a community manager for AOL. Back then, the internet was mostly adults. I saw what happened when kids started to come online, generally unsupervised. For years I said kids don't belong online without direct supervision, waning as the child grows older, but I had parents insist, "My kid's a good kid, they won't misbehave!" They insisted their kids would be angels online, but more damaging, they were utterly in denial of what their kids would be exposed to. The internet should NEVER have been a space for unsupervised children. It should NEVER have been a place to showcase your kids. It should've always been considered an adult space.
As a kid growing up with un restricted internet access I found and had a porn addiction, as a 10-12 year old. I’m 16 now but digging through the internet fucked me up. My child will not grow up with unlimited internet nor will my child be able to be on social media until I feel they are old enough. Not to mention how mean people are online? People just say anyrhing and everything.
Speaking as a kid who got a personal computer in their room at 13 in 2010. I never should have been let on there. Facebook at 14, never should have happened
I genuinely appreciate this comment, so much! Especially the replies. No parent is perfect, and we do our best. But I completely agree with this. My kids don't have social media, other than my 20 year old. My youngest is allowed certain things like PBS games or videos, and my 17 year old son does watch videos on UA-cam. He basically watches elevator videos, font videos, things that my brain will never even begin to understand at the level he does. But even he is now 17. Granted he has Autism, so he has certain subjects that he loves and sticks to it. He tries to explain things to me, but he's just so much smarter than I am, so it's a lost cause probably. Regardless, none of my kids will have had any social media or phones, or been online roaming freely, until they're old enough.
Because it allows even the rejects and shittiest people of our society to use it and feed into each other. If not for the trash in the world, the internet and social media can be used for good. But the trash uses it for bad.
I saw this one mom youtuber (just hear me out!) and she just documents herself as an aesthetic mom and rarely shows her daughter, and even when she does she only shows her hair. (btw she’s an aesthetic mom who will CHANGE her aesthetic for her daughter to be happy. Respect.)
My jaw dropped at the videos of the parents filming “the talk” with their young daughters. That is SO not okay. I’m disgusted. Thank you for making this video.
TheDadChallengePodcast youtube channel literally sent several of these channels/Instagrammers, etc. proof of their kids' videos on pr3da8t0r playlists and showed their S0c1al Blade statistics for how many adults (mostly men) were watching videos of kids bra shopping, talking about periods, etc. Those parents all kept up those videos and their channels, socials, etc. and made videos falsely insinuating he was a whole bunch of things he's not and some of their fans attacked him to telling the truth. His entire channel is dedicated to exposing this growing problem and bringing awareness to the issues of child 3xpl01t8t10n online through family vloggers.
It felt to me almost like a humiliation kink thing. Like these people are getting off and visibly enjoying their childrens discomfort and embarrassment. It’s actually sick.
I honestly would have never imagined that there are parents that would post the kids' reactions to such a sensitive talk. Having the Talk with your kids is important , education is important. But sharing their embarrassment for clout is just wrong. Plus in this day and age there will be creeps out there watching this.
No way in the world “phallic foods” just slipped her mind when choosing what her daughter got to eat. Abuse follows the generations until broken mama needs help.
She shouldn't have custody of that little girl. It's horrifying what these so called parents are doing to their kids. Karma will get them in about 21 years when their kids grow up & want nothing to do with them. 😡🤬🤬
YES. Thank you Kiki for speaking about this. After my daughter turned a year, I realized how many photos and videos I had posted of her. Granted, my Instagram was on private, but it still is a footprint. When she turned a year old, I disabled all of my social media (I only was on Instagram). I’m SO glad I did. Haven’t turned back and I don’t miss social media at all. Another area of concern: as a former teacher, I can’t tell you how many teachers post their students. Even if the parent has signed a media consent form, it does NOT give the teacher the right to post a child’s face/info on their account (even if it’s a “teacher” account). This is a huge pet peeve of mine and I wish more parents and teachers would advocate for student privacy.
We need to get on board as society with this generally because the amount of people you see posting not only their own kids but OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS at school events, soccer games, recitals, birthday parties, etc is out of control. Makes you not want to let your kid go anywhere because you can't trust other parents/adults are gonna keep your kid off the internet
@@bulbasaurevolved all the time unfortunately. I followed a lot of teachers when I was on Instagram for ideas and community. Usually it comes from excitement to share a fun lesson, or a student’s reaction to what they made, etc. Not only have I seen the child’s face, I’ve seen stories where you can see the nameplate, the room number, and the school name. That type of info publicized can be really serious if there’s an estranged parent involved.
I actually follow this family channel that is doing it the right way. His name is dillion and he is a lawyer. He doesn't show his children at all or share private information, but shares about the journey of Parenthood. He shares the funny things they do and what it's like to be a parent to multiple children. I actually just saw a video this morning of him talking about a coworkers sad passing to cancer and how, even though his own father passed when he was an adult, he can't imagine what the coworkers children are going through and how they set up a college fund for those children and is set up on his page. He used a drawing of stick figures to represent those two girls because he refuses to put their face on the internet. You CAN have a family channel, while also protecting their privacy and prioritizing their safety. He really talks mainly about the funny things kids do, like his 2 year old being obsessed with ranch and how he's woken up in the middle of the night hearing her just chanting "ranch" over the baby monitor alone in her room.
I got a concussion when I was 12 and my mom didn't believe me until I forced her to take me to the doctor. Even then she did not believe that head injuries were serious until I had severe symptoms. After I recovered she sent out messages to her close friends (AFTER asking my permission) explaining symptoms and what to do with their own children. All her friends shared the same belief that head injuries weren't serious and knowing someone that went through that experience it changed their minds. THAT is educating them, she didn't even disclose minute details, just how the accident happened and some things to look out for. No major details and NOT on social media. It's all about intention
1 Timothy 6:10 KJV - For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
There’s an “influencer” who does videos about treating her twin daughters differently. They look to be around 4. The mom will bring a bowl full of chips to one twin and a bowl with one chip to the other. The little girl tears up every time. Imagine being 4, your mom makes you feel sad and then shoved a camera in your face and laughs at you. It’s despicable. This new generation will be so messed up
Thank god honestly for you making these. we need more real, more level headed, and more people willing to think things through in a world where almost anything goes and tech is running away from us faster than we realize.. not to mention morals, values, and integrity in general is not only depleting but seriously being attacked and people are left so un-self aware... we need more people like you posting to raise awareness about this crap for sure.
It’s clear you care a lot about this-I don’t ever think an MLM boss babe has ever made you this visibly pissed off before and rightly so! Child labor laws and privacy issues are such important topics so thank you for being so informative and thoughtful in this video 💓
The catnapper is a close second though 😂 "I would call the police. I would CALL. THE. POLICE. if someone stole my cat." -- Kylie 😂 still makes me laugh lol
Boss babes and child exploitation usually go hand and hand. The amount women pushing bullshit oils bc it cured their kids illnesses or helped them sleep is disgusting. Anything for a quick buck.
It’s so important for people to talk about this so thank you for speaking out. These children cannot consent to being put online and they deserve better.
I am in my 30s. When I got my first period my mom called and told every person I knew. She didn't have a Facebook or any social media back then and holy shit I am so glad. I don't even post pictures of my children unclothed, couldn't imagine advertising that sensitive information.
Same. Exactly the same. Except I’m older than u. Mortified. This is a huge problem. There are so many huge problems and they never get fixed and only get worse and pile up
I think it’s “normal “ all my friends had their parents do it - I think the parent sees it as a childhood moment like first steps and forget how much it feels gross and embarrassing at that age. I hit a training bra for Christmas once stuffed in a box for an item I wanted but wasn’t in there 🫠
My youngest got RSV right before he turned 1 month & it never even crossed my mind to post anything about it to social media. My focus was 100% on him!!
The mom recording “The talk” really broke my heart. I have a weekly girls night with my daughter. I don’t do it for views, or record it. I just do it to spend time with my daughter..
What’s sad is that a girl I know got criticism for not posting photos of her 10-year-old son on Instagram or any social media and was accused of clearly not caring about him or spending time with him because of that. She spends all her time with him. HE has specifically told her he doesn’t like photos of himself being publicly posted, so she listened. It’s sad that while there is rhetoric about exploiting your kids, if people DON’T post their kids they’re then accused of not caring about them. It made me so sad to see this girl who I know is a good mom get accused of neglect just because she respects his right to privacy.
@@calamity0.oGood choice. I don't even go on social media. Never have never will. I only go on You Tube for true crime, music. I would never put pictures of my children or granddaughter on line. I lived most of my life without social media I'm not interested.✌️🌻🌻
As a child, I remember feeling mortified when my mom would tell strangers at the grocery store that I had perfect grades. I can’t imagine how these kids will feel when they get the internet 😢
After watching this I cleared my kids bd's from my socials, removed anything showing their (partial) face and cleared anything showing their full name and double checked my privacy settings. It is good to get these reminders from time to time. Thank you for helping fellow parents keep their kids safe online 💛
one thing that really gets at me is parents who post their (usually neurodivergent) kids melting down. like imagine if someone posted a video of you throwing a tantrum to embarass you.
I know I’m late to this but this is why our family stopped watching Super Nanny and other shows like that. Our child (6) said it made him sad to see other kids cry or angry and that it gave him bad feelings to watch. Like it made him want to cry or get angry too. I realized how embarrassing this could be for these kids in the future and exploitative it is. Now we’re happy with Bluey and less tv in general lol.
The mom who said “she’s gaining nothing” ok, you might not be getting a monetary gain but sharing your kids potty training journey is making you feel “special” and “popular” and “the go-to mom for tips” Feeding her own ego as a mother is what that is.
I think you have the exact right level of passion for this topic. It's the most disgusting and wrong thing I've seen on social media. Aside from the complete lack of consent from the literal children, the parents are making it as easy as possible for predators and possibly emboldening them in the process. Thank you for touching on this topic. I love your channel!❤
Remember when parents used to forbid us from saying our names or share photos of our face online?
And I'm glad they did, because I would post so many stupid things
Yep, and now that we're grown up, we're doing exactly that and look what's it done. Social media is a cesspool of toxicity and exploitation.
Or post pics inside the house because things might get stolen. I still get scared.
Yeah, I'm glad my mum took that seriously. I never had social media except for Facebook at 13, and I almost never used it, I wasn't even allowed to put my birthday into it.
They still do and I'm glad
About 8 years ago when my son was 6, back in the day of CraigsList, I posted our bikes up for sale. I didn't think anything of it that my son was in the picture. I posted the photos and I immediately got a response back from a woman telling me to take the photos of my son down. She said it was the quickest way to get a predator over to my house pretending to be interested in the bikes. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up and I got chills. It had never occurred to me the danger I was putting my son in. I took the whole ad down and just donated the bikes.
I am so grateful for this woman. She defined the way I parent and protect my son to this day. I pray more women and families listen to women like you. The protection of our children should be our #1 concern.
Wow, that woman was awesome and I hope and pray she didn't figure that out the hard way🙏🏾
Good for you for taking her seriously and not getting offended!! I mightve been a tad offended not even gonna lie, I’m stubborn. Honestly, we need more women like her to speak up in sticky situations like that!
Goosebumps! 😳
That’s good. People need to stop being on the defense. She was looking out for him. Unfortunately peoples egos are more telling nowadays. Also the CCP is monitoring Tik tok so I stay off all together
What an amazing act of kindness that she reached out to you with. It's people like that who give me hope in such a hopeless world.
The mom dancing in front of her baby in NICU will forever be one of the most unhinged things I’ve ever seen.
Same here, I was truly shocked when I saw that
I would normally agree, however…sit down….there was girl doing tik toks in the hospital with her stillborn.
@@1goofymommy i think she had *serious* mental health problems. Like more than the standard.
@@1goofymommy WHAT?! What’s their user name?
@@darktwilightwolf09 oh gosh, it’s been a while. Lemme look it up.
As a child, I always felt like I was being watched in the bathroom, like a secret camera was in there with me. Can you IMAGINE that being true?! That's exactly what these kids are experiencing!! 😭
I had the same thing as a child. Now I’m an adult with anxiety disorder lol.
Dude, SAME?!? Like in the air vents on the ceiling, too!! Spy movies are the biggest cause of my anxiety 😭
Sammmmeeeee
Same here. Felt it all the time as a kid. Later learnt that jinns (devils) loved staying in toilets. I read my dua for protection now before entering the toilet.
it is a valid fear and their parents are doing that to them! it MUST stop
Someone I had on Facebook made a whole post about their daughter’s SA story and how brave she was. Her daughter was at the time 18 but had been SA’d since she was a kid by an family friend. I was shocked that a mom would feel like she had the right to share something so private about their child and make the decision to divulge something so personal.
Omg… I have been through something similar and if my mom did that to me I would be so so upset. Like mortified. It would be hard to not dissociate and have to re-read the post over and over until I could process that it’s indeed real. Ugh that’s awful..
That's disgusting
wow that's def not okay I would have freaked out if that happened to me and on fb everyone saw that.
my mom never posted anything online thankfully but she did tell family and friends stuff like this in regards to me, some of whom tactlessly clued me in that she'd told them (for which i'm actually thankful & i'm sure my mom wasn't as it solidified my desire for her to know absolutely none of it) and to this day i still have no idea who in my family's circle of relatives and friends knows these things about me that i hadn't even willingly told my parents in the first place and my relationship with my mom is permanently damaged, to the extent that almost 10 years after this occurred my mom still knows very little about my private life even when i'm doing well
this is awful but also dangerous, cause creeps seek out people who have been victims, im speaking from experience that when i told people about my csa they went on to hurt me too
Even my mum talking to her friends about my shitty kid behaviour was a betrayal. Never mind the ENTIRE PLANET
Facts, I don't talk to my mom anymore. I don't trust her
Grow the fuck up. Lmao. A betrayal
THIS!!! i remember being mad and hurt at my mom for talking about my personal issues and literal trauma to the FAMILY. i can’t even fathom the whole world like you said, we need to start a petition to implement child safety and protection laws on the internet and as influencers bc that would’ve RUINED me.
My mom literally made sure everybody on instagram knew I had surgery and had a mass removed then got violently sick with lime disease while still healing and could barely walk and wasn’t eating for weeks honestly wtf 😐
That takes it too far. That's HER life she's talking about with her friends. You're not the ONLY person that matters. If you don't want your mom to have to bitch about you to SOMEONE don't give her a reason to bitch. Her life matters too. Also did you ever think maybe you're bad behavior was a betrayal to your mother? Did you ever think you were the one who did the betraying not her? Did you ever think maybe you were the problem? Or are you in narcissistic asshole?
What scary is we used to tell children to be careful with strangers on the Internet because you never know what could happen and now we’re having to teach parents this lesson and I’m very confused on how we’re going backwards.
That’s exactly what’s happening we’re just going completely backwards like becoming everything we’ve worked to not be building up this generation it’s so sad
@@sauronthedeceiver3363exactly
It’s called “progressivism”. Society has gone so far backwards that people don’t know the difference between a man and a woman these days. People think men can menstruate and get pregnant. It’s pretty simple. If you were born with spérm, you’re a dude, and you can’t menstruate or get pregnant. If you were born with eggs and ovaries, you’re a woman, and you have the only reproductive system capable of carrying a baby and nourishing it for 9 months. If you were born with spèrm, and you shop for tampons, and claim you’re having severe menstrual cramps, and you think you’re pregnant, please get some help. At the rate society is going backwards, imagine what things will be like in another decade or so.🤦🏼♀️
@@sauronthedeceiver3363 The parents who went on about "stranger danger," are now the people who believe everything they read online.
Yeah It's this new generation who are social media obsessed. They feel they have to film & document everything for views & likes , it's very sad & annoying 🙄🤦♀️. If social media was shutdown tomorrow for good ,I literally would NOT miss it. The only social media i browse is UA-cam, which is also problematic at times .
influencers stop treating your babies like objects challenge (impossible)
LOLLL
lmaoooo
Finally, a good Tik Tok challenge! Next challenge, have these shitty parents eat Tide pods.
Years ago, I took an FBI training that included analyzing seemingly innocent pics with children from a predator's perspective. It was a disturbing but educational experience. It convinced me that there is no such thing as a harmless image of a child.
😳 can you elaborate. Should we not post any pics publicly?!
@@tripendicular When my daughter was younger, I posted some pics of her on FB, but restricted visibility to close friends and family only. That's honestly what I would recommend to anyone. If I couldn't restrict it, I wouldn't post it. If I would be comfortable with that person being in my daughter's proximity, they can see pics. Otherwise, not a chance.
At the same training, even back then, we were shown some of the horrific alterations done to or with children's images. While I understand it's not actually that child or a child at all, I just couldn't stand the idea of someone doing anything like that to an image of my child.
@@jolenejoleeene I've once accidentally came across those altered pics years ago when the internet was still a bit wilder with circulating the most horrific shit.
I was about 16 back then and I will never be able to unsee this.
I don't want kids but I'm an aunt of 4 and I made my two older siblings keep a tight grip on what they posted. My older brothers ex was a lot more free about what she posted of my two youngest nieces and I can still remember sitting her down and explaining to her in detail what people do with even the most innocent pictures. She was also posting less innocent stuff like bikini pictures on the beach which are of course completely harmless if you aren't a creep but she had it out there and not restricted.
I'm 30 now and I have never shared a picture of any of these kids and would only consider it now for my oldest niece because she is 17 and can consent and my nephew who is 20 and an adult and obviously can consent too. I also don't post pictures of friends unless I've asked and deemed them safe and I routinely have always posted stuff privately.
I really don't understand how people can be this free about their kids.
@@DieAlteistwiederda i sincerely believe its because they think it wont happen to them. whether its out of willful ignorance or the financial incentive to keep making content doesn't matter to them. and if it were to happen (which is a very real concern and im surprised it hasn't happened yet), i unfortunately forsee parents trying to monetize that too as a sob story.
I am about to have my first child and I have wondered about how I am going to deal with this a lot. I don't have/ don't use any social media sites anymore. I mostly just use Pinterest and Twitter for my social media fix. I don't really post anything personal on either of those websites.
I am worried about my mom and my mother-in-law posting pictures of my kids online. Especially my mother in law because she loves sharing her entire life online.
I am wondering if I should ask my husband to speak with her about it or whether I should say something to her myself before the baby is even born or just wait until the bay is born and say that we prefer for our child's face to not be online. I am not sure how to approach her about it. She could post a picture that has my child in it, but their face isn't showing would be fine.
Anyone have any good ideas of how to approach the topic and what to do if she gets offended? I guess I could always tell her that I am the parent and I am allowed to make rules for my children.
After reading Jennette McCurdy’s book I’m Glad My Mom Died and knowing how her own mom exploited and abused her I find it super disturbing parents are doing all of these things but online for everyone to see. People are way too trusting of the internet and have no idea how much they’re hurting their kids in the long run.
I know - I just finished her book and I can't even imagine if her mom had had access to TikTok and such when she was a kid
Great link with the book 📖! Great reference 👍🏻! People lost their mind
It also brings to light the idea that can kids actually *consent* to being on social media/televisions/movies? They don’t understand what they’re giving up/the consequences/benefits, so how can they make that decision, even if they say yes?
Jennette’s story (and a lot of child actors) discusses how her want was purely to make her happy. That’s not consent 😬
I just saw her on Mayim Bialik’s podcast not long ago! Very interesting!
exactly they’re way too trusting. and whenever u point it out to them they’ll say ur “victim blaming” like nobody is defending predators, we’re just saying that bad people also have internet access and they will use it to do bad things.
Imagine the doctor tells you your newborn son has a 50% chance to live to see tomorrow and your first instinct is to dance to California Girls
Oh wow! Even doing the dance was cringe worthy to me BUT the baby could have died?? Omg!
Smh lol
The Beastons are the worst at this. They did a gymnastics thing with hubby dropping pregnant mom
@@chefbetsy9094 omg
@@chefbetsy9094My mom used to watch her channel back in like 2016-2019 or so, and it was so weird watching her slowly transition into that type of exploitative mom. Really sad.
My oldest son was in NICU. My only concern at the time was if he was going to live. I can't believe that anyone would dance around a very sick child.
Exactly that is so disturbing and disgusting 😢low oxygen I would be praying and holding my baby not dancing around ,that was sick as hell
Even if she was feeling relief from some good news from a doctor, can you imagine being another parent there in the NICU with you child, worried to death and seeing this ditzy broad dancing around like it's party time in there? Wtf?
Agreed...Even if someone did a dance in a weird break of reality as an odd way to cope, the most disturbing thing of all is to record it, then have the mental awareness and time to sit and review the video, edit it, and then post it. Bcuz after all that, even the farthest of reaches can't excuse that behavior as anything else but pure callousness. It's psychopathic.
My daughter was in the NICU for 3 months. She was born with a ❤ defect. Had surgery at 2 mos old. They let me stay in her room for a month during recovery. I could barely eat! How can anyone be dancing 😔
I think it’s completely cringey and weird when I see somebody setting their phone up in a public place to make a video. I can only imagine what those nurses and doctors would be thinking had they seen some mom doing tik tok dance in front of their sick child in the nicu.
THANK YOOOOOOOU i wish more people would speak up about how bloody DANGEROUS and DAMAGING using your children for content is!! for a multitude of reasons! ugh
Yesss! Unexpected seeing you here but I love seeing queens supporting queens!!!
Yesss another channel I love ❣️
I totally agree with this. Remember that feeling when you heard your mom on the phone telling someone about an embarrassing thing you did? I do. I’m almost thirty. My heart still has that sinking feeling thinking about it. I feel like my mom liked embarrassing me when I did something wrong.
Ooohh girl, yep...so many horribly embarrassing memories. My mom used to tell her family & friends EVERYTHING about me. I KNOW she liked embarrassing me!!
Yep. And even if you say please don’t tell anyone else’s they will still tell their friends because they have a right to tell their friends 🙄 why I don’t tell my mom a lot of stuff as a adult now. She just gossips and labels it as catching up with her friends
God Bless my mom and dad they were just never open with anyone 😂 I don’t know if that’s not normal they never really had openness with anyone but each other and I’m now so glad at 34 they didn’t bc it’s just not something to be talked about. My aunt was the only one we shared with but she had two girls and that’s all we needed and felt comfortable with.
@@bro6568 Sounds like u were definitely blessed in that way!!! 💕
Or just having my picture taken ( for a family photo album) in my teens. That was bad enough!
I was born with quite a few deformities that had to be corrected with surgery. At 4 years old I broke my femur and it was only at 19 years old that the doctors realized what was wrong, and performed the right surgery. I've only been walking for the past 9 years, sometimes with support. But I've spent 28 years being embarrassed with a mother telling complete strangers my story. Colleges, shop attendants, family friends, people walking their dogs on the beach, basically anyone who just looked at my scars would get a full download; from infancy to adulthood. I've had a lot of health problems, but I've had no privacy. My consent was never asked. Here you don't know who I am, and here I can share a little of my own story, but it is my choice. I have to beg my mother not to tell people about my private life and then she always gets defensive. Please, please, please... DON'T put your children on ANY social media. Live for your children. Live wisely.
People really have kids and think they own them. It’s so controlling and gross. Like, here’s my non-autonomous dancing monkey. I’m sorry you grew up with no privacy.
YES. I’m disabled and chronically ill and my mom would just start explaining my whole (private) life story with random people and it was so uncomfortable, dehumanizing, and embarrassing. These kids with influencer parents are going to have such a tough time while they grow up and in adulthood because everything about them is exposed, vulnerable, and picked at. It’s just awful.
Same thing happened with me I’m 18 years old but when I was younger my mom will tell everyone about my skin condition ichthyosis when people would ask she would explain every little detail when people ask me and I get to answer I tell them what I think they need to know I tell them what it is and that I am completely fine but my mom thinks that she needs to tell them everything every surgery I’ve had every thing that I do for my skin and sometimes she even shows pictures of me when I was younger versus now because she thinks that I am some big inspiration that people should be inspired by me just walking around and living a normal life she would always say look at my daughter she couldn’t walk when she was five isn’t that crazy like dude stop they don’t need to know that just let them think that I’m a normal kid who has a skin condition don’t tell them everything
Parents who seem to live through their childrens disabilities are creepy. I am hearing disabled, have scoliosis, bowel disease, migraine and was born with 11 fingers. My parents never shared any of it unless it was relevant. Only people who knew about my hearing disability etc. were teachers and people who saw me so regularly they would notice something is not normal. Teachers needed to know because it benefitted me that they know and the people we saw regularly would have started to wonder why I'm seeing doctors monthly when I was a toddler.
I literally almost DIED because of my medical condition and my mom dumps every tiny traumatic detail of it on the mailman with a big smile like! how do you see this as ok??? what do you gain from this??? she didn't even wait, she was telling random strangers *while i was in the hospital*
the mom pressuring her daughter to say out loud what got her own mother pregnant, explicitly, in public not only irl but online, is borderline abusive. it's harassment. the purity ring makes it creepier. imagine if a kid wanted to ask questions during the talk but they can't bc they know thousands of people are watching WTF?????
Absolutely lost for words vile humans want locking up
France’s new child influencer laws are so great. I’m really glad they’ve put so much thought into them.
I wish the US, and other countries, would follow their lead.
Whats the law? In France i mean im curious now
@@the_hottest_vitch I’m referencing the one she talked about in the video. Sorry I don’t have more info 😅 I wrote this a while ago
But basically they put stricter restrictions on how kids can can be exposed online for monetary gain. To keep them from being exploited
As with the internet, I would fact check it as I am definitely not an expert!
The US doesn’t care and says parents should have the freedom to choose that they do with their own kids. I’ve seen the same thing with parents defending their decision to allow their kids to not wear a helmet when doing dangerous things like riding 4 wheelers or horses
You know shits bad when France of all countries decides its child exploitation
@@stephanie22345 the US loves to consider kids as property of the parents and pretend any danger to kids is outside the home
As a parent who likes to consume parenting content-the creators I respect and listen to the most don’t show their kids at all. I have zero idea what their children even look like and they still manage to put out content that reaches millions of parents. They still succeed and make a living without exploiting their chikdren. There are no excuses.
Same!! I watch a few not many but 3/4 and I have no idea how many kids genders or ages and I’m ok with that. I’ve learned so much from them and respect them
Exactly! You can give parental advice and education without showing your children
See, that I can respect- giving advice, product reviews, blogs, how-to's, etc WITHOUT involving their child/ren in their video. I'm mortified by these tiktoks with children involved. I also don't think kids should have social media until they're at the very least 17. I don't even have kids, but all of that is way, way, wayyy too damn much.
Do you think this is something “normal” everyday parents should do as well? I have a private IG and will sometimes post family photos there (never anything embarrassing for my kids - like their health issues or tantrums) but now I’m rethinking even that. Wondering your thoughts as a fellow parent.
you can educate parents without exposing your children and that's what they don't care about because they know if they show their kids they'll get more money and views.
I don’t understand how, if you genuinely love a child, you could continuously humiliate them online (which will be around FOREVER), and endlessly expose them to predators. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Parents are supposed to protect their kids, not further set them up for danger.
These type of “parents” sincerely don’t care about their kids rights to privacy. (Thank God we were born before social media was around!). my impression is that they don’t realize their kids WILL grow up and be adults one day and won’t be happy about these postings, shared to the world. I’ve become more aware of that myself but still, it’s mind boggling how many parents don’t care about their kids privacy- they only care about THEIR own following, views and perceived fame 🙄😑
It's not embarrassing to be a kid and do kid things. And people shouldn't have to stop sharing cute kid videos because some weirdos will look at them creepily? There are obviously limits, like don't post inappropriate things or put the kids in actual physical danger. But I don't understand the attitude of - creepy men exist, therefore let's live our lives in a completely different way just so that they don't think creepy things about us?? Why give them that much control?
I believe they view children not as individuals but as extensions of themselves; property. My mother was the same way.
RIGHT! When Kiki started getting upset 😢 I was angry too. When she started getting teary eyed I felt that.
Because a narcissist loves what people can get them, they don't love people
The woman dancing next to her baby in the hospital bed really makes me think the end is near
To anyone thinking she’s being an alarmist: an immediate family member of mine worked in an office that did rehabilitation and case management for sex offenders. This stuff - the hashtag monitoring, the photo sharing networks - is too real.
What's more alarming is when a sex offender is actively on probation or parole, it's quite common (especially with cases where the victim was a minor and/or the predator utilized the internet to commit their crime) for one of their conditions not allowing them to use social media. But then once they've completed their probation or parole after however many years, even though they're still on the registry they can join social media again.
The offenders this might apply to (it varies state to state) can be those convicted of crimes like statutory rape and attempted solicitation of a minor. Crimes that carry a max sentence of ~10 years give or take.
Of course, those are just the ones that got caught and are known.
@@smurph13 yes of course that's more alarming 👍
Research shows that 1 in 10 children will be the victim of sexual abuse before their 18th birthday - by an older youth or adult. Gotta be careful.
Nope, she’s not even close to alarmist. I am a social worker and have seen some stuff that made me just get off of social completely.
Commenting so this doesn't get lost in the sea of comments in the future.
My favorite part is when those people claim they do it for „educational purposes“. As if raising children was this brand new thing no one has ever done before. Thank god for these wise social media moms who finally teach us on how to potty train kids. 🙏
specially considering that their parenting methods are always crap like I'm not a parent, but you don't have to be a pilot to witness an airplane crash.
and the thing is if it was there is a way to show and educate for tips on parenting without showing and exploiting ur children.
I agree people do it wrong sometimes, but some people do it right. I just had twin boys and have looked to a lot of people online for advise on different struggles I’m having because no one in my life has twins. Some people never babysat or had younger siblings so they might not know how to do things like potty train or deal with certain situations. Now again there is a difference between being informative and exploitative. And you’re right that to be informative you don’t typically need to show your kids.
You can also tell stories about your learning experiences without actual photo/video of the child...
@@RachelDoesntknow Yep. Momma Cusses is a good channel for that.
Can you imagine being the families of the other kids in the NICU? Going through the worst time of your life and she’s dancing in the corner? Even if she knew her child would recover, that doesn’t mean that all the kids will. You’re trying to survive your child’s final moments and she’s throwing a party! I’m SO glad my hospital has a no phone/video policy.
I Agree 100%!
I've had a fair bit of experience in the NICU, having had 6 premature babies. Even when we got good news, like life or death good news, we were subdued in our celebration because we were very aware that another mother in earshot may have just been given the opposite news. I would be openly disgusted by this behaviour.
I agree, that was so incredibly insensitive and shows a complete lack of situational awareness.
I agree. Three of my kids were NICU babies and and for my twins I was still hospitalized myself for over a week after their birth to recover. I couldn't imagine me trying to recover myself from almost not making it while spending time with my kids who also barely made and seeing another mom dancing in the NICU. It would have came off as so obscene and hurtful. Wtf is wrong with people?
I’m just happy she was able to be happy in that moment 🤔sometimes a smile really can brighten up a bad day
I think about this every time I see it. My second daughter had staph at 48hours old and I don’t think I’d cope if I saw someone doing that!
This is the reason why I respect influencer/youtube parents who DO NOT show their children or say anything about their children on THEIR platforms - *CHILDREN ARE NOT PROPS*
When I was a teenager - severly depressed, suffering from PTSD and being suicidal because of it - my mother told all her friends about my mental health struggles. Luckily only in IRL but still. So thank you for being angry about stuff like this. A stranger on the internet has more compassion for children being exploited than their actual parents. Thank you.
I went no contact with my mom for the same reason. That crap is so hurtful :(
On the one hand, I can understand her, telling like one or two if she herself was struggling on how to handle it for you as a parent, but if you just blatantly told everybody just so she could have sympathy from them or something then yeah that’s horrible
@@ElinWinbladagree of course it doesn’t need to be shared all over but sometimes parents will discuss something with a friend that is a parent also. Sometimes they are not sure what to do and said friend might be able to give some advice
I know a lot of these parents say they get their child’s permission before posting them…not realizing that a minor, especially very very young children, have no clue what that even means..They can’t provide informed consent..so it doesn’t count..Asking a 5 yr old if it’s okay, doesn’t mean crap..
I really appreciate this video!
At that age, all their opinions are based on what their parents do and don't approve of. Children look up to the people who raise them, so even if they don't want to be posted publicly they're more likely to go along with it anyway to make their parents happy
Yup. Kids can't consent.
As an autistic adult, I would have been MORTIFIED if my parents had used my life as content. Education about autism shouldn't include disclosing your child's personal and intimate life. I'm really concerned for this generation of children who's lives will be so documented & shared before they can even grasp the concept of consent.
There was one woman who had a disabled child (I can’t remember the child’s exact disability but they were immobile and required a wheelchair) who literally took photos of her changing her child’s incontinence pad on the floor of a McDonald’s because she wanted to “raise awareness” about the lack of accessible facilities at fast food restaurants. Literally her child on the floor of a McDonald’s bathroom with their pants down 😳
As an autistic adult, "autism mommies" make me physically sick. Listen to autistic adults, neuroclastic and other such autistic community led information sources if you wanna learn about autism. (never Autism Speaks)
@@tamara2641 how humiliating for that child!!! So gross.
"Used my life as content": That is such a simple yet perfect way of putting it.
Very well said.
Absolutely disgusted to hear about the McDonalds story.
Girl, you can say it. These are BAD parents. Absolutely unbelievable behavior from parents.
That promise ring/prom dress/“the talk” dinner ceremony for all their daughters feels SO culty.
A lot of the vlogging families are Mormon or Evangelical Christian and the purity culture aspect of their beliefs disgusts me!
It is. The promise ring thing is straight up gross. “My parents own my body until I get married.” Fuckin BARF 🤮
@@chilltheheckoutwithava1454 and the fact its only the daughters, and usually the father that "owns’ them until theyre married makes it even more gross
@@DAVIDJONESLOCKER669 yeah for real!! It’s such a weird custom that needs to die out already 😅
Out of all the videos shown in this video that was the one that made feel the most grossed out. Giving a promise ring to an 8 year old?? Disgusting. I’m so glad this is not a thing in my country.
the restaurant sex conversation was TERRIFYING to witness… the way the mother is trying to make her daughter say something explicit for views. you can explain safe sex to children by stating FACTS that they have curiosities about and not asking silly questions or making a child uncomfortable.
It’s by NEN fam (not enough Nelson’s) and it’s called “having the talk with NayVee) they did ask her permission to post and haven’t posted their other kids who weren’t comfortable. Not saying it’s not odd but 🤷🏼♀️
Gave me Shane Dawson vibes for real ☠️
@@Emily-fe6yb doesn't matter if they asked permission, she is a CHILD
@@mackaroni9792 She is 11 in this video. She was old enough to consent. A younger kid I’d agree with with no hesitation that it’s not appropriate. For NayVee tho I think she’s old enough. They also gave her a purity ring in this video and explained that to her and stuff. I think that it’s weird but I’m just saying I have a brother her age and am 15 myself and still think she knew what was happening for the most part. She can have it removed when she’s older if she’s uncomfortable.
@@Emily-fe6yb be real, 11 year Olds still don't understand what posting things on the internet entail, how nothing can really be deleted from the internet, etc.
Why are you making excuses? What is the benefit of posting these things? None, but there's a list about a mile long of reasons not to
You really think an 11 year old grasps the predators watching this content? Get real
I cannot imagine my kids walking around their school and everybody knows everything about them including personal daily lives. It’s ridiculous that parents do this in this day and age. Let alone the predators, it’s just not normal!!
omg i was so focused on the predators it didn't occur to me that these kids' peers have access to their videos too. imagine everyone in your high school has seen you potty training?!?!?! mortifying
That’s another difference with child actors, their peers are seeing them play a character. They aren’t putting personal embarrassing moments out there to be seen and judged. Not that child acting doesn’t have its own problems but at least there is that layer of separation from their personal lives.
@@KellyKnowlesArt i didn’t even think about that!!! that would be so traumatic
Well it IS normal, that’s the problem 😅. We need to un-normalize it.
As if school isn’t bad enough for most of us
Wren’s videos aren’t being misconstrued. Her mother knows exactly what she’s doing.
How is she not being investigated by law enforcement?
Exactly. She saw those posts go more "viral" and now has her daughter in MORE bathtubs and hotdog eating vids. 🤢🤢🤢
Yep, and it's sad, I wouldn't have thought about that 30 years ago, but people are gross, and the internet made it easier for that stuff, I guess. I would never have thought anything about my child eating a hot dog being a bad thing that's how far gone some people are.
We don’t know that though.
@@o.m9514let’s not be obtuse. It’s pretty obvious she knows what she’s doing
“I’m sorry for my absence. My child had a fairly major injury, however he is fine now. Please give me some time to help my son recover and content will continue.”
It’s that easy.
EXACTLYY
How are they gonna use their child to be viewed then? They are literally pushing out kids for money????? That is so sick. My heart goes to these kids😢
If I’m right that’s pretty much the approach Elise Myers took and then got bullied off for not talking about global atrocities while dealing with a sick son
Honestly who cares about absences from social media? Are people just watching one person and can't survive without their content? That's wild to me that people feel need to say "Sorry, I didn't post today."
This issue of parents posting their nonconsenting children online is going to be one of the biggest blights on the Millennial generation as parents. In 10-15 years we will absolutely be seeing the documentaries and reading the tell alls of children who grew up with these parents, and I suspect many children will cut off their parents entirely. It’s horrific that we are just accepting this as normal in many cases. It truly feels like a minority of people have an issue with this.
AGREED
They'll be asking "why didn't you protect me?!" And other extremely valid questions... I see lawsuits for sure
@@Ephesians5-14 Yes! I also forsee teens looking to get emancipated from these terrible parents.
These millennial parents are exactly the reason why the two extremes exist- the side where the parents are overly exposing their kids to the Internet and why the other side (my side) are overly avoidant of their kids being on any technology.
I don't believe this is an accurate representation of parents in general. Out of All the parents you know in your actual life how many are doing this?
I think the vast majority of people know this is wrong and don't condone or participate in this.
Yes. These kids will have issues and we will hear about it, all that is true. But that doesn't mean it's an issue with an entire generation.
There have been massive issues with child actors coming to light over the past few decades. That doesn't mean every parent would be okay with their kid being a famous actor.
Wow. My son was in the nicu for 10 days after he was born. Social media was the furthest thing from my mind at the time. I can’t believe she did that.
Hello Katie, how are you doing?
You sound like a mom who has maternal instinct. I have a severely disabled son who has had severe medical emergencies which require hospital stays. I have 3 other children who all have ended up in the emergency room and I never even thought about recording a video to post online. My only concern was the health of my children. I’m blown away by the amount of parents who use their childrens misfortune in an attempt to post videos so people can watch. When kids are in the hospital they deserve the same amount of privacy as adults. There are so many reality shows on and it seems like being admitted to the hospital is the best way to garner attention. When my kids get hurt I tend to panic even though I was an emt for years and became a deputy sheriff. I’ve seen everything but when it happens to my children all my experience and training goes out the window. I have to calm myself down and let muscle memory kick in. These days women get pregnant for outside attention then use their children to get attention. It’s really sad.
Same, my son was in the nicu for 2 days and I was devastated.
I starting crying when during my wife first pregnancy the baby heart beat went off monitor.
I guess it's normal nurse came in told my wife to roll a certain way, it came back on and nurse left. it was Cleary no big deal and it took me 30 mins to stop shaking
Same! I didn’t tell social media for over 3 months when I had my youngest! Like I was getting messages from people concerned because I went from being pregnant to silent (friends obviously) but my baby was the only thing on my mind
My daughter was in the ICU (at age 3) for about 5 days. By the second day we knew she was going to be OK, but it didn’t stop me from breaking down in tears every time I left her room or ran home for supplies. It took so long to recover from the fear and utter panic of that entire event. It’s been over 10 years and I still remember how it felt …and it bordered on desperation.
But it wasn’t just my own experience in being on the pediatric ICU. I would take her for walks by pulling her in a little wagon with an IV pole attached. I tried not to be nosy, but it was hard to ignore the fact that some of those kids didn’t have the positive outcome my child had. It was clear some of those kids might not make it home. I would’ve felt horrible celebrating my child’s wins in that type of environment. So So SO many other parents and families were suffering with unbearable pain and experiencing just a glimpse of that was incredibly humbling
I think it’s thoughtless and self-serving that this mother created a TikTok dance video like this. I think she did it for views and clout and engagement rather than a true expression of her relief.
Can you imagine how other parents with kids in the NICU at the same time felt watching her video?
i had to stay in the hospital for a few days right after i was born and my mom still gets emotional about having had to go home and some point and leave me at the hospital. she always says “i was absolutely beside myself”❤ and she would get scared and call the doctor because i was a quiet baby and rarely cried….
100% been in this situation with my 18 month old and RSV & spewed in my mouth when I saw this. Dancing when my kid is hooked up to machines to eat and breathe, and doctors can't find a cannulation position to give fluids is just the craziest concept. This is next-level insane
Tik tok moms have taught me that the amount of narcissists in world is much larger than I initially thought
I believe the statistics, don't quote me, something like 1/20 people are sociopaths/narcissists.
True. But people have to remember narcissist vary in degrees it’s a spectrum
Great observation. 👍🏻 with social media, we can finally see them very clearly
Same here….Narcissism and lack of common sense
taught me that beileve all woman and woman would be great at anything cause they are women, was way off.
Im pregnant and wont be posting any pictures or anything of my baby on the internet at all. It just feels wrong.
Good for you. Your baby is lucky to have you as a mom. Best wishes.😊😊
Good for you. Your child will appreciate it and your memories will be precious and private to you and your family. I am so grateful that the internet did not exist when I was a child with my parents our memories are ours They don't belong to anybody else nor the worlds I do share things now because there are very serious lessons to be learned from what happened to us but it's what I choose to share. I am grateful that I'm allowed to share what I share
Yeah, also pregnant. It's just not worth it. I can send cute pictures to my trusted friends and family to enjoy. The internet doesn't need to see my kids.
Congratulations
We have decided to do the same, I gave birth to our first several months ago. Try to do your best to communicate your wishes to your parents, if your partner is in the picture make sure his family is aware as well… we have run into issues with other people posting pictures of our little one. Not because they’re rebelling but because they forget, and deleting it is good but it’s never fully deleted… you never know the kinds of people who follow, even if the account is set to private. Often times there are people you know that are using these photos… wishing you the best. Sometimes you’ll feel “left out” because you don’t post baby but the cons definitely outweigh the pros.
Just gonna lean into being old with a "when I grew up story." When I grew up we were told not to have our names on backpacks or clothes so people couldn't pretend to know us. Now people drive around with cars with their kids' names on them and make them social media accounts and hashtags with their child's full name. People are lost.
I was born in 93, my parents NEVER let me wear clothes with my name on it or have my name on my backpack. Nothing like that. Bc of exactly what you said, they told me people could use that to trick me into thinking they know me & kidnap me. Also would never let me wear clothes that had writing on the butt or anything that said “spoiled, princess, brat” etc. I am the same way now with my daughter. I just can’t believe what people are doing nowadays
Truuuuu
That’s one of the weirdest things for me as someone born in 1997 - we were taught all of those safety things, at the same time that our parents were discovering social media. It’s like all of the stranger danger talks went out the window, parents were posting every detail about their kids all while telling us not to give any information about ourselves.
Right our parents use to write our names on a little tag inside out backpack or on the bottom so the teacher could know if its lost but safety is lack luster these days people don’t want to parent children everyone is just concerned with looking good online it’s sick.
Those same people will tell you how much more dangerous it is now, how you never know who's out there, etc, right after posting a video with basically all of their kid's names, ages and daily activity schedules.
What’s so sad is that we won’t see the true effects of being on social media from a young age until these kids grow up and it’s too late
Theres no difference really between kids in these videos and former child stars and look how 99% of them turned out.
@@unropednope4644I disagree - I think this era of kids will be worse. Child stars at least had some level of “privacy” because they weren’t filmed and on camera 24/7
I suspect narcissistic parents are in many of these family social media accounts. Showing kids using the bathroom, discussing sexual content, or any type of violation toward the child that puts them in a compromised position could be viewed as covert abuse. Their lack of boundaries and need for attention are red flags as well. Thank you for posting this video to spread awareness.
Thank you for posting this comment; I completely agree with you 💯.
(Now that I'm an adult I wish we had - and kids now had - a better education in school about psychology, mental health issues, parenting styles, personality disorders, emotional maturity etc. Getting a crash course in what's been done to us and having a nervous breakdown in one's 40's or 50's is ill-advised.) 🤦🏻♀️
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@@tiffanyblack8755 definitely. I'm a psych student and I started crying in a lecture about child abuse, because that was the first time I fully recognized that it had happened to me. It was hard to sit through and cry in secret, but if it wasn't for that lecture, I wouldn't be where I am today. It should absolutely be taught in school! I think this wouldn't only help people seek therapy sooner, but also prevent abuse, because many abusers need you to be oblivious to the fact you're being mistreated, or else they lose their power over you.
changing their genders....
@@yeetnama9094 transgender kids have nothing to do with online safety what? weirdo transphobes like you always find a way to rope trans people into issues that have nothing to do with them. Just shut up and leave us alone
@@yeetnama9094 Pard?
People have been potty training their kids for YEARS without the need for “influencers” to show them how. I need these mums to so BFFR right now about educational content.
Right?! And even if you argued it was good to teach people, you could do it without showing the kid, naming the kid, etc. make a step by step meme and share it without the kid attached to it
Yeah, God forbid you have to read a book instead
Never been more appreciative of my strict "no phone, no social media" parents than right now... 😱
Aww they truly loved you! God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ, who is the name above all names & the only way to Heaven🌈💖
Coming from someone who was groomed at 13-14 by a 21yo I commend you for your videos and I completely agree that children do NOT belong on the internet.
I was groomed at 12-14 by my 45 year old neighbor! It is absolutely terrible and disgusting what these parents are doing just for money!!
@@ryanbayer1012 I am sorry that happened to you. Things like that really do affect you throughout life in different ways. I have no words for parents who prioritize money over the safety and health of their children. It's disgusting.
@Sandistia I hope you're doing better today 🩷. It's been nearly a decade since I was groomed and thankfully my parents put a real quick stop before something worse could've happened. Unfortunately I think I was too young to understand what happened at just 12, so I can confidently say that these young children most certainly don't know what's going on! I hope these parents put a stop to it!
@@ryanbayer1012 I am doing better today. I really started to do better when I saw it for what it was. Unfortunately, my mother was unaware for a few years and ended up giving my virginity to this predator when I was only 14. At the time I really believed they cared for me and it was real. I can confirm that children this young do not fully understand what is going on and what it means to be sexually active especially with someone so much older. I hope that you were able to heal from your experience. ❤
@Sandistia that's horrific. I'm so sorry to hear but glad you are healing 💗 the world is a beautiful and scary place
Crazy how the mom at 38:45 talked abt how her sons disorder doesnt define him yet still made it sound like it was all that defined him
Oh we're going to see a GoFundMe on him He is going to be used to raise funds meaning money for his copays MRIs aren't cheap His medication is going to be this He needs glasses he needs this he needs that owe you bet he's going to fund their lifestyle. Poor little guy instead of loving him and giving him the privacy he needs to grow up not to be bullied but to be loved appreciated and respected for who he is He's going to be a UA-cam star
As a disabled person that statement boggled my mind. The kid is like 2 years old he barely has a personality, it’s okay if his chronic illness/disorder defines him at this stage in his life. It’s quite literally been his whole life up to this point. As he gets older it will become just a part of him as a person. But he’s literally a toddler. Name any toddler that doesn’t define themselves by one specific interest or character trait😂 children will typically do that till around age 6 or 7. It just felt so strange to use language that disabled adults have had to use to get BASIC respect for a child who barely knows who he is.
Had a girl from my high school class post a picture of her young daughter completely naked on Facebook - you could see EVERYTHING and I found it super disturbing. This was much earlier in facebooks days (circa 2010-2011 maybe?) so their censors didn’t catch it right away. Eventually it was removed after several people (including myself) reported it to Facebook but the mother then took to her page to complain that the photo was removed. Saying things like “oh it wasn’t meant to be a sex thing you all are disgusting for looking at my daughter that way” but also like…you could see her daughter’s private areas. Her daughter deserves privacy online just like everyone else. I just found her reaction super frustrating, like she didn’t see her daughter as her own individual person who deserves to not have her junk shown to everyone online.
The mom who made the video in the hospital….makes a video smiling and dancing when discussing her child’s (potentially fatal) health issue but crying when she gets backlash on the internet about it. Wow.
This exact thought just went through my brain!!!
Yeah, that was infuriating. So incredibly stupid.
So psychotic
Personally I think it should be illegal to have minors on social media ESPECIALLY TIKTOK. There is zero consent from this exploited kids.These parents are disgusting.
I totally agree!
Before I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder a few years ago, I had a lot of very emotional, manic depressive episodes in high school. My mom would record videos of me on her phone, not to post, but so I could “watch them later to see how crazy I’m acting” and it was so unbelievably heartbreaking and traumatic for me. Even knowing that no one else would see it, the idea that I was being recorded in my most vulnerable state still really bothers me as an almost 29 yo woman. To imagine children having their lives exploited for financial gain and views on social media for the world to see by their own parents, who are supposed to protect them and comfort them, is inconceivable. Thank you for speaking on this.
I'm so sorry that happened to you :( Your mother was absolutely wrong to treat you that way.
That sounds awful. Absolutely fine if you don't want to answer but were you aware of these episodes? Like even if you didn't know what they were or while you were in them were you aware afterwards? Either way it's horrible and traumatic but if you weren't aware how would you have preferred your family to try and express that to you? (Mean this completely genuinely, just unsure what I would do if it were my child that wouldn't be traumatising and invasive to them)
@Heather Petersen Oh def agree, I thought it wasn't about trying to make them prevent or change it but like literally just being like hey can you see that this isn't usual for you and something is wrong that we should speak to a doctor or smthg if they weren't being believed for some reason. 100% disgusting if you're trying to use it to shame or manipulate someone into changing behaviour/patterns they can't help and aren't in control of. Like was asking purely about awareness because I can see how it could get tricky if your kid/family was genuinely unaware that they were going through episodes and didn't believe you when you said so
My heart sank reading this. I'm so sorry this happened to you. I can only imagine how awful it must have felt in the heat if the moment 😔
I mean you would've been acting a bit "crazy" in that moment
Thank you for talking about this! I refuse to put my kids on social media and people don’t understand why. This is such an important topic!
💯I don’t put my child on social media, either.
I completely understand. I’m on a dating app and there are so many pics of peoples children on there and it’s disgusting.
@@candicemarie5310 really? That’s insane
Exactly.. I don't even post pics of my daughter on Facebook so people just assume she is made up. Lol okay great then.
@@candicemarie5310 see it a ton. My guy friend gave me his password to look at what he gets to "pick from" and it's either hookers, or shitty moms.
Can’t wait for the tell-alls from these children in 20 years. There needs to be laws against this, can’t leave it to stupid parents to exercise basic judgment.
It will be the typical, the laws won't change until children/people are hurt. It's very sad. Though I hope all these youtubers shedding light on this will make a difference.
“thankfully now been deleted” if i had a videos of my kid on the internet that 17 million people were potentially watching i would not be able to shut my eyes ever again thinking how many people saved that to their phones
I used to watch family channels when I was younger, and I remember I accidentally stumbled upon this one family that had like daily vlog updates with titles like "no period yet", "acne but still no period" basically updating about one of their daughters, like W H A T? It was so disturbing, I wish I remembered the channel name just so I could report them.
Sounds like 8 Passengers
Awful!!!
@@psychedelic.dreamerjust what i was thinking. if i remember correctly there was one video of one of their (ruby frankie + the dad’s) younger daughter’s first leg/armpit shave, and she didn’t want it recorded, but obviously Ruby had to record it against her daughter’s wishes and upload it for the whole world to see. it was honestly so sad (and gross)
that sounds so disgusting
It was 8 passengers. Ruby Franke is doing prison time for severely abusing her children. Family channels should be banned. Nothing good ever comes from them.
Some people on social media are really loosing their sense of reality and what is normal behavior.
My mom tried to become UA-cam famous by making me and my siblings do vlogging but we all ended up hating it because it ruined genuine and good family moments. We all ended up all resenting her a lot for pushing the vlog. Eventually we all refused to be a part of it anymore.
This is how the 8 Passengers kids are all gonna end up. I feel it in my bones.
Good on you for refusing to take part in it. I agree it’s so gross
@@s0lastsummer7 I genuinely believe the eldest son they sent to the wilderness already does. Resentment. I feel so bad for them.
@@s0lastsummer7 well, you were right. Yikes.
I’m sorry you got such a narcissistic and abusive mother. How old are you? I’d disown my mom if she did that to me.
I was a NICU nurse and I cannot imagine seeing a mom do this. Possibly if their child or children are going home after a very long stay in the NICU, but not for RSV.
If I had been working that shift, I’d have stopped that right away.
This is so inappropriate. So many babies in that same NICU that time likely struggling to live and parents dealing with grief, loss, or babies who will leave with permanent illness or injury related to preterm birth or other issues.
From a former NICU mom, thank you ❤
this behavior is just so unreal. growing up my mom would ask for permission to post me on FACEBOOK, where it was mainly family and friends, people we KNEW. the respect and privacy my mom gave me growing up is something im grateful for.
my mom did the same thing for me once i explained to her this exact phenomenon like… 13 years ago. now she judges other people for posting their little kids and stuff haha
My 26-yo daughter still insists I ask her before posting any photos of her!
So many people seem to think of their children as possessions or extensions of themselves rather than separate human beings, so to them, sharing their kids' info isn't much different from sharing their own. And social media algorithms reward narcissistic behavior. It's a perfect storm for child exploitation
These people have the mentality that they OWN their children. They see them as extensions of themselves. They see them as literal possessions with no personal autonomy, and they do not respect their privacy because they don't believe that, as minors, they are entitled to any. That's the source of so much of this, and it's disgusting. Thank you for speaking out about this.
basically my thoughts on this. They fail to see their kids as people and (even more crucial) as future adults who have to cope somehow with what their parents did. It may not seem concerning to the parents, but they don't know what struggles will come of it for their kid and how they will feel. If I found out that some disgusting people watched videos of me that my parents put out there despise multiple concerns by others, I would feel so betrayed and probably would develop some very bad mental health issues and hatred of my body because I'm insecure and sensitive af.
Bingo. I shouted "THEY'RE NOT YOUR PROPERTY" probably eight or nine times watching the clips in this video. Just feckin gross behavior. France giving children rights that are NOT secondary to their parents in some way is top notch and we all need to follow suit.
And the US endorses and encourages this mentality, sadly :( You’re so right.
I commented the same thing, these are emotionally immature parenting. Enmeshed parenting style. Adult children of emotionally immature parents by Lindsay C. Gibson is a good book about it
That's textbook narcissism. Like, it is one of the traits of parents who are diagnosed narcissists, is treating their children like accessories or possessions. To them, the child is there to make them feel good about themselves, to make them look good, to gain them approval and attention; they have kids so the kids can make them feel good, not because they want to love and raise a child.
The lack of respect people have for their kids is depressing. Some truly view them as an extension of themselves & nothing more.
I'm disabled and I appreciate you so much for this. Parents of disabled kids need to get their shit together. Thank you for advocating for the most vulnerable of an already vulnerable community.
I'm an autistic person who feels much the same way about childhood autism channels
Honestly the mom influencers that exploit their children with disabilities makes me sick.
Excellent point and reminder!
@@bethanythatsme those channels feel very cruel. My toddler was recently diagnosed with autism. I know very little about it but have been trying to do a lot of research since she started showing signs. None of the pages or people I follow have to show children to get their education or point across. So these parents claiming “education” for their motives are just disingenuous.
Look up Dougherty mom so gross.
I can't imagine how mortified I would have been if my parents had broadcast my 'where do babies come from" talk to the world. Those poor girls have to go to school the next day and face classmates who saw that. Their mother even made it personal about herself with 'how did the baby get in MY stomach' so it's about the girls' own parents' sex lives - not just a general convo about where babies come from.
Childhood is hard enough without that stuff being public. And that's all in addition to the extremely real dangers of predators who would probably love to watch a kid talk about that stuff.
That video reminded me of the 8 passengers, they did something similar (first period, buying first bra etc) 🤮🤮 their kids said they have no friends because of the family channel, everyone thinks they’re weird 🫠
I’m so glad I was born in the 90s and if there are any embarrassing pictures there are “only” in the photo album
when I heard they are going to the restaurant for that I was like 😳"what?!!!"
I have kids and we've had a general kind of birds and bees talk. Ive told it to them first just babies, in my case, come from the tummy and a doctor cuts them out. Then when my oldest turned 8 she got more curious and wanted to know how the babies get into mommys tummy so I explained that women have eggs in their body and when a mommy and daddy love each other he fertilizes the egg and a baby grows, like planting a seed and watering it then a tree grows but I never explained what sex is because its not necessary at this age and I definitely wouldn't make my child say sexual things. That is sick. That "mother" knows exactly what she's doing.
@@aurora8749 Yeah, age-appropriate honesty is such a good tactic with parenting. Instead of not telling them something because they're too young you just edit the information to be digestible to them. Kids are much more intelligent than people give them credit for.
Omg. It was obvious that the mom was making what should be an informative conversation as embarrassing as possible. But you are right, her asking how the baby got in HER belly. Like. How do you answer that? Why didn’t you properly just EXPLAIN the fertilization process. The mom decided to have this conversation and she is supposed to be guiding it. I had a problem with the way she was smiling like this was all some sort of funny joke. It’s not a joke. Even when her kid covered her face in embarrassment, mom pulled her hands down because she just HAS to get those reactions on camera. How awful. I remember having this conversation with my mom and at no point was it uncomfortable and embarrassing.
50:59 - _"If you're not interesting enough on your own, find a new job...and find a job that does not require you to use your children as puppets or props and your money making endeavours."_ 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you for calling out these narcissistic parents Kiki who are making money off their kids' privacy. The Dad Challenge Podcast YT channel also covers parents exploiting their children's privacy and medical information. Pity there aren't more YT channels calling these people out!
Respect for you for actually blurring the children’s faces unlike the parents that are posting it like it’s crazy that you’re the one that has to do that and the parents don’t do it for them as their guardian. It’s wild.
I had a couple of instagram reels with my son in them and upon watching your video I deleted them all! I never gave his name, but he deserves protection and privacy.
Bless you for realizing your responsibility and especially your love for your child. We accidentally make mistakes in raising our kids I'm so glad that you saw the truth. I posted above what happened to my girlfriend when she listened to a professional photographer and put her daughters picture on the cover of their catalog and the front page of their website It turned their life into a nightmare and she lived in fear for many years for her daughter till her daughter didn't look like that anymore because she'd grown but she knew that they had to be so careful It changed their lives forever.
it really is a good thing to hide your child from the internet. they are your precious person❤and you never know who is around and willing to harm them or exploit them unfortunately. better safe than sorry.
12 minutes in and I already have SO MUCH I want to add:
1. As someone in the field of child development and a YT fan for the past 13 years, this particular topic is so important to me. In fact, I did a research proposal to measure the self esteem of kids of family vloggers in the future to see if this phenomenon will have any sort of impact on the kids. I strongly believe it will, but we don't currently have the science to back it up. If we do have the science, then we can push for stricter laws regarding influencer children. But unfortunately, a whole generation of kids will have to be sacrificed first before people will actually do anything.
2. The parents ABSOLUTELY know what they are doing when they post pics of their kids in the tub and eating hot dogs. They know.
3. The lack of internet safety awareness nowadays is actually insane! 12 year olds running around online blasting their age, location and face everywhere like it's no big deal! My boomer parents taught me to expose as little as possible about me online and they never even grew up with the internet! My elementary school computer class went over internet safety. What happened to millennial parents and school boards and adults in general that just let all of this slip through the cracks?
Your research proposal is excellent. I hope you're able to carry it out. The children of the first generation of mommy bloggers are just hitting adulthood and I'm sure there will be some tell all books coming our way soon.
what happened to millennial parents? oh, but nothing dear... they just are still children themselves, so they couldn't be bothered with actual parenting...
what happened to school boards? eh, that's a little more complex, but basically in the last few decades money and culture went down while childishness and bigotry (often disguised as some weird concept of politically correct) went up.
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also, as long as they can do whatever they want without responsibilities and repercussions, the vast majority of people (parents included) simply couldn't care less about anything else...
after all, we're just naked monkeys, in some ages and cultures it's a little more evident than in others.
oh, before anyone loose their shit... no, this is not aimed to hurt or denigrate anybody in particular, I'm just a tired historian being dark and sarcastic on purpose...
I'm a millenial and I'm still kn some fandom spaces online and it scares me so much to see these children post everything about themselves online on public accounts... I'm especially worried when they openly list their trauma and triggers cause they're literally giving so much power for someone to hurt them really badly. And then these same kids actually end up thinking you're a creep if you don't have a carrd listing everything about yourself. And I say this as a person who is quite open online.
I think maybe some millenial parents think that they were fine online back when it was the wild wild west, and surely their kids know cause they're able to be online more... or maybe these parents never had creepy encounters or didn't get sent shock websites with gore on the, by strangers so that they don't realise what can be out there.
@@nimeryaspawnbrd1049 a “historian” that mixes up “loose” and “lose”? I don’t buy it. the “politically correct” sentiment was quite a dogwhistle as well
@@nimeryaspawnbrd1049 Sure, if you consider 30-40 year olds still children.
I really appreciate that you covering this topic and you properly blur these minors faces/bodies. Sadly there are to many 'expose'-tubers making money out of uncensored footage while saying something like 'here is a video where you can see that the children clearly don't want to be filmed. Lets zoom in!' So thank you!
My son had RSV and was in the NICU, I would have never never ever posted a video for any reason from there. No matter what the doctor had told me. No shame, and no respect to the other patients.
I'm just so baffled by this phenomenon. In school in the 2000s/early 2010s we were made to sit through SO many internet safety PSAs and presentations. The threat of online predators felt like a very immediate concern at all times. We were told never to post photos of ourselves online, use our real names, share our ages, and obviously to never share addresses or the name of your school, or even what city you live in. Social media use was discouraged but they knew it would happen anyway so they made sure we knew how to keep our accounts private, etc. So why are so many people seemingly okay with parents breaking these rules??? And out of curiosity, do they even still do PSAs like that in school or have people given up on internet safety??
Also this puts the parents at risk, too. Kids aren't the only ones who can get hurt bc their info is on the internet.
Schools gave up on internet safety lessons. They instead put heavy restrictions on how you can use the internet at school and then they call it a day.
@@Jogjosmowwdkfseah but all these parents who exploit their kids WERE kids in school during the era of internet safety in the 2000s/2010s. So they know better. It’s not the kids who have a need to learn right now (it’s the parents who do know better). However, yes the kids also need to know. But it’s parents who right now need to know
@@lauras5359 at the bottom of their comment they asked if schools still did internet safety, so I answered that one. That’s what I meant :)
Crazy! I didn't even know they previously taught Internet safety in school and I graduated from highschool in 2010 lol
I had internet safety lessons in elementary school once or twice. I don't remember much but my parents werent invited to school to learn about it as well, so it was never talked about at home. I'm 24
I am SO glad you made this! It's starting to feel like these parents KNOW creeps are looking at their children and they just don't give an ish because it pays them so well. Sick.
I’ve started to think the same thing. There’s no way that an account with millions of followers doesn’t realize this. Sad.
Yes, some of them absolutely do, as TheDadChallengePodcast youtube channel literally sent them proof of their kids' videos on pr3da8t0r playlists and showed their S0c1al Blade statistics for how many adults (mostly men) were watching videos of kids bra shopping, talking about periods, etc. His entire channel is dedicated to exposing this growing problem and bringing awareness to the issues of child 3xpl01t8t10n online through family vloggers.
They 100% know. Literally everyone in this day and age knows the dangers of social media (especially if you are an influencer) and especially when you can SEE for yourself that thousands of grown men are liking and commenting on pictures of your toddler 🤢
They ignore it..sadly. Because exploiting their children is how they make their income.
Look at parents of child celebrities in the entertainment industry. This is the same thing. Also, not all children that are preyed upon and get trafficked are kidnapped. I hate to be blunt and talk about something uncomfortable, but people think it's random strangers all the time, when it's more often relatives, guardians, etc. that exploit their children or relative's children.
Yeah, they know. The creators with millions of subscribers know how to read their analytics. 🤮
"I'm the cool mom. Isn't that right, Regina?"
"Please stop talking."
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It appears " cool mom" is probably an embarrassment to her daughter. Way to go mom. 😡🤬🤬
@@Oldschoolnana its a script from 'mean girls ' ...
I feel embarrassed of the stuff my parents recorded as home videos much less posting them online everywhere for creeps to see
I recently vacationed with my husbands' family friend that had their 13 year old daughter come along. I was FLOORED with how much the mom was on social media posting about her, her daughter in bathing suits, and grabbing her phone to have control over what her daughter posted(posting FOR her).. wtf? thanks for bringing light to this!
I get the impression that a lot of these parents don't view their children as actual people. They aren't individuals with their own thoughts and desires, they're accessories to be used by the parent as they see fit. Really sad.
I was just thinking this. They feel they have a right to them like property.
The objectification of humanity has come to this...
Does it really surprise anyone? Look at how many people were up in arms by the RvW decision? To those people they don’t think of kids as much beyond a choice of choosing a new pet.
In the '90s, I was a community manager for AOL. Back then, the internet was mostly adults. I saw what happened when kids started to come online, generally unsupervised. For years I said kids don't belong online without direct supervision, waning as the child grows older, but I had parents insist, "My kid's a good kid, they won't misbehave!" They insisted their kids would be angels online, but more damaging, they were utterly in denial of what their kids would be exposed to. The internet should NEVER have been a space for unsupervised children. It should NEVER have been a place to showcase your kids. It should've always been considered an adult space.
I remember that
The stuff I was exposed to in AIM chat rooms messed me up. I was ten, but lied and said I was 13 to get the AIM account
As a kid growing up with un restricted internet access I found and had a porn addiction, as a 10-12 year old. I’m 16 now but digging through the internet fucked me up. My child will not grow up with unlimited internet nor will my child be able to be on social media until I feel they are old enough. Not to mention how mean people are online? People just say anyrhing and everything.
Speaking as a kid who got a personal computer in their room at 13 in 2010. I never should have been let on there. Facebook at 14, never should have happened
I genuinely appreciate this comment, so much! Especially the replies. No parent is perfect, and we do our best. But I completely agree with this. My kids don't have social media, other than my 20 year old. My youngest is allowed certain things like PBS games or videos, and my 17 year old son does watch videos on UA-cam. He basically watches elevator videos, font videos, things that my brain will never even begin to understand at the level he does. But even he is now 17. Granted he has Autism, so he has certain subjects that he loves and sticks to it. He tries to explain things to me, but he's just so much smarter than I am, so it's a lost cause probably. Regardless, none of my kids will have had any social media or phones, or been online roaming freely, until they're old enough.
I would be absolutely mortified if i had parents like this. Those poor kids
"The Internet is a disease. Social media is a disease." - Truer words have never been spoken.
Because it allows even the rejects and shittiest people of our society to use it and feed into each other. If not for the trash in the world, the internet and social media can be used for good. But the trash uses it for bad.
It's not that bad since we all met here ❤
But true, it is hard to find diamonds in a lot of trash.
As a new mom I am really glad I watched this. I needed to hear this and have now taken measures to make sure my little girl is safe. Thank you.
These kids are going to grow up hating their parents. And the parents will only have themselves to blame. Thank you for talking about this!
I saw this one mom youtuber (just hear me out!) and she just documents herself as an aesthetic mom and rarely shows her daughter, and even when she does she only shows her hair. (btw she’s an aesthetic mom who will CHANGE her aesthetic for her daughter to be happy. Respect.)
My jaw dropped at the videos of the parents filming “the talk” with their young daughters. That is SO not okay. I’m disgusted. Thank you for making this video.
TheDadChallengePodcast youtube channel literally sent several of these channels/Instagrammers, etc. proof of their kids' videos on pr3da8t0r playlists and showed their S0c1al Blade statistics for how many adults (mostly men) were watching videos of kids bra shopping, talking about periods, etc. Those parents all kept up those videos and their channels, socials, etc. and made videos falsely insinuating he was a whole bunch of things he's not and some of their fans attacked him to telling the truth. His entire channel is dedicated to exposing this growing problem and bringing awareness to the issues of child 3xpl01t8t10n online through family vloggers.
It's abuse. Such an important talk should never be done in public, never mind filmed in public and stuck online!
It felt to me almost like a humiliation kink thing. Like these people are getting off and visibly enjoying their childrens discomfort and embarrassment. It’s actually sick.
Purity culture is sick in general
I honestly would have never imagined that there are parents that would post the kids' reactions to such a sensitive talk. Having the Talk with your kids is important , education is important. But sharing their embarrassment for clout is just wrong. Plus in this day and age there will be creeps out there watching this.
The mom who posted pictures of the little girl eating "fair food" knew exactly what she was doing. Disgusting.
No way in the world “phallic foods” just slipped her mind when choosing what her daughter got to eat. Abuse follows the generations until broken mama needs help.
I'm afraid of what else she is doing to her daughter if she's willing to do this out in the open. Have authorities checked into SA?
Just the fact that the pictures were of her eating it! Totally different than her daughter just holding the fair food and smiling
She shouldn't have custody of that little girl. It's horrifying what these so called parents are doing to their kids. Karma will get them in about 21 years when their kids grow up & want nothing to do with them. 😡🤬🤬
YES. Thank you Kiki for speaking about this. After my daughter turned a year, I realized how many photos and videos I had posted of her. Granted, my Instagram was on private, but it still is a footprint. When she turned a year old, I disabled all of my social media (I only was on Instagram). I’m SO glad I did. Haven’t turned back and I don’t miss social media at all.
Another area of concern: as a former teacher, I can’t tell you how many teachers post their students. Even if the parent has signed a media consent form, it does NOT give the teacher the right to post a child’s face/info on their account (even if it’s a “teacher” account). This is a huge pet peeve of mine and I wish more parents and teachers would advocate for student privacy.
Wait, WHAT? There’s teachers that post their students on their social media?!?! That is beyond wrong!
We need to get on board as society with this generally because the amount of people you see posting not only their own kids but OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS at school events, soccer games, recitals, birthday parties, etc is out of control. Makes you not want to let your kid go anywhere because you can't trust other parents/adults are gonna keep your kid off the internet
@@bulbasaurevolved all the time unfortunately. I followed a lot of teachers when I was on Instagram for ideas and community. Usually it comes from excitement to share a fun lesson, or a student’s reaction to what they made, etc. Not only have I seen the child’s face, I’ve seen stories where you can see the nameplate, the room number, and the school name. That type of info publicized can be really serious if there’s an estranged parent involved.
Yes, and I can't stand when teachers refer to my children as THEIR kids. It's weird and offensive
I actually follow this family channel that is doing it the right way. His name is dillion and he is a lawyer. He doesn't show his children at all or share private information, but shares about the journey of Parenthood. He shares the funny things they do and what it's like to be a parent to multiple children. I actually just saw a video this morning of him talking about a coworkers sad passing to cancer and how, even though his own father passed when he was an adult, he can't imagine what the coworkers children are going through and how they set up a college fund for those children and is set up on his page. He used a drawing of stick figures to represent those two girls because he refuses to put their face on the internet. You CAN have a family channel, while also protecting their privacy and prioritizing their safety. He really talks mainly about the funny things kids do, like his 2 year old being obsessed with ranch and how he's woken up in the middle of the night hearing her just chanting "ranch" over the baby monitor alone in her room.
Dad and MomChats are 2 of my favorite accounts to follow, they are HILARIOUS 😂
I got a concussion when I was 12 and my mom didn't believe me until I forced her to take me to the doctor. Even then she did not believe that head injuries were serious until I had severe symptoms. After I recovered she sent out messages to her close friends (AFTER asking my permission) explaining symptoms and what to do with their own children. All her friends shared the same belief that head injuries weren't serious and knowing someone that went through that experience it changed their minds. THAT is educating them, she didn't even disclose minute details, just how the accident happened and some things to look out for. No major details and NOT on social media. It's all about intention
The saying that “the love of money is the root of all evil” never rang more true.
💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 YESSS
1 Timothy 6:10 KJV - For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
There’s an “influencer” who does videos about treating her twin daughters differently. They look to be around 4. The mom will bring a bowl full of chips to one twin and a bowl with one chip to the other. The little girl tears up every time.
Imagine being 4, your mom makes you feel sad and then shoved a camera in your face and laughs at you.
It’s despicable. This new generation will be so messed up
Every generation is messed up for different reasons. Narcissistic parents have always existed.
That’s disgusting
Whoa. That feels like the first few days of A Child Called It.
OMG that's so f'n cruel, poor little girl 😢
Thank god honestly for you making these. we need more real, more level headed, and more people willing to think things through in a world where almost anything goes and tech is running away from us faster than we realize.. not to mention morals, values, and integrity in general is not only depleting but seriously being attacked and people are left so un-self aware... we need more people like you posting to raise awareness about this crap for sure.
It’s clear you care a lot about this-I don’t ever think an MLM boss babe has ever made you this visibly pissed off before and rightly so! Child labor laws and privacy issues are such important topics so thank you for being so informative and thoughtful in this video 💓
Wait until she finds out about the mommy vloggers in MLM’s!
The catnapper is a close second though 😂 "I would call the police. I would CALL. THE. POLICE. if someone stole my cat." -- Kylie 😂 still makes me laugh lol
Boss babes and child exploitation usually go hand and hand. The amount women pushing bullshit oils bc it cured their kids illnesses or helped them sleep is disgusting. Anything for a quick buck.
@@s0lastsummer7 if somone touched one of my cats I wouldn’t call the police, I’d call a funeral home
It’s so important for people to talk about this so thank you for speaking out. These children cannot consent to being put online and they deserve better.
I am in my 30s. When I got my first period my mom called and told every person I knew. She didn't have a Facebook or any social media back then and holy shit I am so glad. I don't even post pictures of my children unclothed, couldn't imagine advertising that sensitive information.
Same. Exactly the same. Except I’m older than u. Mortified. This is a huge problem. There are so many huge problems and they never get fixed and only get worse and pile up
I've heard of moms doing this and I cannot imagine! I am so sorry!
I think it’s “normal “ all my friends had their parents do it - I think the parent sees it as a childhood moment like first steps and forget how much it feels gross and embarrassing at that age. I hit a training bra for Christmas once stuffed in a box for an item I wanted but wasn’t in there 🫠
@@ElinWinblad more so they forgot it's not their story to tell. It's not their body. Kids aren't pets
My mam called only my grandma to tell her and I was still mortified 💀
My youngest got RSV right before he turned 1 month & it never even crossed my mind to post anything about it to social media. My focus was 100% on him!!
Everyone said I was paranoid 3 years ago when I said we would never post our kids online. Glad I stuck to my convictions
The mom recording “The talk” really broke my heart. I have a weekly girls night with my daughter. I don’t do it for views, or record it. I just do it to spend time with my daughter..
What’s sad is that a girl I know got criticism for not posting photos of her 10-year-old son on Instagram or any social media and was accused of clearly not caring about him or spending time with him because of that. She spends all her time with him. HE has specifically told her he doesn’t like photos of himself being publicly posted, so she listened. It’s sad that while there is rhetoric about exploiting your kids, if people DON’T post their kids they’re then accused of not caring about them. It made me so sad to see this girl who I know is a good mom get accused of neglect just because she respects his right to privacy.
I'm getting ragged on currently for never posting images of my toddler for relatives to see. I don't even get on fb anymore.
Adults view children as property, not human beings. Good on her for listening to her son
What is happening to humanity? Social media has taken the human out of humanity. This has to be stopped. It's child abuse in my eyes.
@@calamity0.oGood choice. I don't even go on social media. Never have never will. I only go on You Tube for true crime, music. I would never put pictures of my children or granddaughter on line. I lived most of my life without social media I'm not interested.✌️🌻🌻
As a child, I remember feeling mortified when my mom would tell strangers at the grocery store that I had perfect grades. I can’t imagine how these kids will feel when they get the internet 😢
After watching this I cleared my kids bd's from my socials, removed anything showing their (partial) face and cleared anything showing their full name and double checked my privacy settings. It is good to get these reminders from time to time. Thank you for helping fellow parents keep their kids safe online 💛
one thing that really gets at me is parents who post their (usually neurodivergent) kids melting down. like imagine if someone posted a video of you throwing a tantrum to embarass you.
I absolutely despise those videos. Humiliating a child is not funny.
And they always tag it “autism awareness” or some sh*t
I know I’m late to this but this is why our family stopped watching Super Nanny and other shows like that. Our child (6) said it made him sad to see other kids cry or angry and that it gave him bad feelings to watch. Like it made him want to cry or get angry too. I realized how embarrassing this could be for these kids in the future and exploitative it is. Now we’re happy with Bluey and less tv in general lol.
@@90mama141 good on you for listening to your kid!!
Those vids are so horrible
The mom who said “she’s gaining nothing” ok, you might not be getting a monetary gain but sharing your kids potty training journey is making you feel “special” and “popular” and “the go-to mom for tips”
Feeding her own ego as a mother is what that is.
I think you have the exact right level of passion for this topic. It's the most disgusting and wrong thing I've seen on social media. Aside from the complete lack of consent from the literal children, the parents are making it as easy as possible for predators and possibly emboldening them in the process.
Thank you for touching on this topic. I love your channel!❤