Dude... doing towing tests like this AND shooting is A LOT OF WORK - TFL Truck does these and they have an entire crew to support it. That's crazy man, you're killing it!
The typical Raptor fan isn’t focused on the truck being a tow vehicle, but rather an off road beast! The fact that the Raptor is a slightly more than capable tow truck is a win in the eyes of most Raptor fans. Just my opinion.
As a Raptor owner I didn’t buy my truck for towing. But as a homeowner I needed to move a couple tons a gravel. Thanks for the down and dirty of everything I needed to know
Great video. I’m currently on the fence about either a 2500 truck or the raptor. I currently have a tundra with airbags and it just seems under powered when towing. If I’m hauling a camper or a boat it gets like 8-9 mpg. It just drinks gas, I was hoping with the more available power that the raptor has might make it worth looking at. I really don’t want a diesel motor and a stiff riding 2500. After all I daily drive a lot more than I tow. I haul a trailer 2 or 3 times a month. And everything is under 10k. So far I’m looking at either a gmc AT4 2500 or raptor. Thank you for real world towing test. I think the raptor would be a better daily driver and still be enough truck to handle my 22’ camper that gets towed 4 times a year for no more that 3 hour trips. With out people like you that take the time to do a review we would be left with the advice of sales people that will tell you what you want to hear to make the sale.
Hello - it's been a while since you posted this. What did you end up doing? I'm considering a new '22 Raptor or Tundra TRD PRO '22 or Ram 2500 Diesel. Really not wanting a 2500 for the same reasons you express in your comment. I'll be towing my 25 ft. Travel Trailer that is roughly 6,000 pounds.
Don't need a separate package to get the trailer brake controller. Just buy it online and pay the dealer to install it. Cost me less than $200USD in all.
That's what we did with our vehicle for towing, too. I was more referencing that the package does offer a number of helpful features for towing, including the brake controller.
You don’t have to add the trailer info every time you use the trailer backup system. It saves it. And for someone who doesn’t back up trailers it’s an amazing system that i will never go without again.
Great video. I have towed with mine and with multiple different trailers and loads, truck does fine. A little bit of squatting but negligible compared to any other off-roader.
Family Wheels towed a 28' flat bed with a Yamaha Rhino and about 1,000 pounds of furniture from a property cleaning, load of crap metal in the bed, about 1,300 pounds, and towed about 6,000 pounds of crap metal on another flat bed. Also used it with tow ropes to tear apart a busted trailer. That's where the scrap metal came from. If your fine with the reduced tow capacity and increased bed height, they make fine work trucks.
Family Wheels with a 28' flat bed hauling a Yamaha Rhino and bunch of junk from a property clearing. Also took about 1,300 pounds of scrap metal in the bed and drove fine as well. 6,000 pounds of scrap once in a 26' flatbed and for fun used it with tow ropes to tear apart a section of an old dry van trailer. That's where the scrap came from. If your fine with the reduced tow capacity and the high sitting bed, they make fine work vehicles
Toyota tundra has an adjustable headlights since 07 a must feature for trucks especially if you tow alot. can't believe all truck manufacturers didn't catch on yet
I’m confused, your video shows the raptor towing a 2400BH grand design , but at the end of the video , you noted the specs of the larger 2800BH (the trailer I Own myself) You mentioned 32ft overall , and 6800lbs . But that does not match the trailer your video showed you towing?
Great video. Question-I have a 2020, has the 802 pkg (trailer break, etc). I’m pulling a new TT that’s 6,800 lbs dry - same as your video. I also have a WDH system but still get squat. Should I fix that and how. I’m looking on line a upgraded bump stops, but I don’t get how they work as they don’t kick in until the Axel is in contact with the bump stop, but that’s after considerable squat. What do you suggest?
I had my doubts with how this truck would do close to the max towing capacity but the larger trailer we used for this review felt good behind this truck. Even at highway speeds on a steady grade or taking corners, it felt far more solid with very minimal back end sag. With the right towing equipment, I'd imagine you'd be fine.
Hi Cobb... the numbers aren't backwards BUT as I mentioned, the city mileage was without a trailer. So 18 city without a load and 13 highway with a 2700 lb trailer. That was over a 600 km road trip with a tail wind for quite some time and a much less efficient crosswind as well.
A new truck will tow fine, My 2014 has only 15K on it. My question is: How will it tow with 60K on it. Ford 5.0-6.2L have a great track record. Do you have any data on the older Raptors V8's and also the ECO boost 6 leaving you stranded ( Dessert towing 100 degrees + and uphill)? The 1st Raptors were "not" recommended to do any towing. Im concerned about the 6-cyl overheating in summer towing conditions. Has Ford increased oil cooling? I cant afford to replace the motor or trans after buying mine at a price more than some peoples homes.
Family Wheels : I don't own a Raptor but I do tow a travel trailer with a 2016 F150 Ecoboost. We have completed a 300 mile trip going from 400 ft to 7000 ft in elevation in 90+ degree Fahrenheit weather. The turbo motor at elevation pulled hard allowing us to maintain the speed limit (and more if we wanted) the cooling package is great and we had no issues with the A/C cranked. One downside was that fuel economy started to suffer because the turbos were spooled up needing additional fuel but compared to our old tow rig that ate fuel AND started to slow down above 5000 ft I have no regrets going with the Ecoboost V6.
Earth Quake that's not a bad idea. The truck currently has 6000 miles on it and yes vehicles while new will perform better. However Ford has built in many features designed to improve engine life. Examples include fuel maps to prevent overheating, oil scavenging to prevent oil sludge buildup in the turbos after engine shutoff, direct and port injection to prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves, and in the event of a severe overheat the computer will spool up the turbos and shut off fuel to opposite cylinders turning half the engine into an air pump until cylinder head temps come down. The technology is far advanced from engines developed even 5 years ago. Research how the 2.7 ecoboost was built and developed. It has no exhaust manifolds to eliminate weight, gaskets, and maintenance. The turbos bolt directly to the cylinder head allowing the exhaust passages to be liquid cooled.
I wish there was a V8 option in the 2017, let the market decide. Another wish is that they will do a production run, like Tesla is doing. I would like to see everyone driving a ford/chevy, tired of seeing so many tundras on the road.
Beautiful truck. But if im living out of a camper and raptor travelling the U.S. for the next 20 years. Im biying a 6.2l raptor. If I'm randomly travelling then I can see this. But I have dreams
Dude... doing towing tests like this AND shooting is A LOT OF WORK - TFL Truck does these and they have an entire crew to support it. That's crazy man, you're killing it!
Riyad Kalla I agree
I was thinking the exact same thing. And would add the clear, articulate and composed speaking too!
The typical Raptor fan isn’t focused on the truck being a tow vehicle, but rather an off road beast! The fact that the Raptor is a slightly more than capable tow truck is a win in the eyes of most Raptor fans. Just my opinion.
Totally agree, Frank. But we had people asking how it would tow so figured we'd show them what's what.
As a Raptor owner I didn’t buy my truck for towing. But as a homeowner I needed to move a couple tons a gravel. Thanks for the down and dirty of everything I needed to know
Great video. I’m currently on the fence about either a 2500 truck or the raptor. I currently have a tundra with airbags and it just seems under powered when towing. If I’m hauling a camper or a boat it gets like 8-9 mpg. It just drinks gas, I was hoping with the more available power that the raptor has might make it worth looking at. I really don’t want a diesel motor and a stiff riding 2500. After all I daily drive a lot more than I tow. I haul a trailer 2 or 3 times a month. And everything is under 10k. So far I’m looking at either a gmc AT4 2500 or raptor. Thank you for real world towing test. I think the raptor would be a better daily driver and still be enough truck to handle my 22’ camper that gets towed 4 times a year for no more that 3 hour trips. With out people like you that take the time to do a review we would be left with the advice of sales people that will tell you what you want to hear to make the sale.
Hello - it's been a while since you posted this. What did you end up doing? I'm considering a new '22 Raptor or Tundra TRD PRO '22 or Ram 2500 Diesel. Really not wanting a 2500 for the same reasons you express in your comment. I'll be towing my 25 ft. Travel Trailer that is roughly 6,000 pounds.
Great video! Thanks for the time and effort putting it together!
The Raptors mirrors aren’t set any wider than the standard F150. The cab is identical. The extra width is in the fenders/tires
Nice review, love my 2017 Raptor. You sitting in the truck talking to the camera I could have sworn you were Neil Patrick Harris for a few minutes.
Been hearing that since the days of Doogie Howser!
Don't need a separate package to get the trailer brake controller. Just buy it online and pay the dealer to install it. Cost me less than $200USD in all.
That's what we did with our vehicle for towing, too. I was more referencing that the package does offer a number of helpful features for towing, including the brake controller.
You don’t have to add the trailer info every time you use the trailer backup system. It saves it. And for someone who doesn’t back up trailers it’s an amazing system that i will never go without again.
Great video. I have towed with mine and with multiple different trailers and loads, truck does fine. A little bit of squatting but negligible compared to any other off-roader.
Yeah, that was a real surprise for us. What sort of loads do you tow with it?
Family Wheels towed a 28' flat bed with a Yamaha Rhino and about 1,000 pounds of furniture from a property cleaning, load of crap metal in the bed, about 1,300 pounds, and towed about 6,000 pounds of crap metal on another flat bed. Also used it with tow ropes to tear apart a busted trailer. That's where the scrap metal came from. If your fine with the reduced tow capacity and increased bed height, they make fine work trucks.
Family Wheels with a 28' flat bed hauling a Yamaha Rhino and bunch of junk from a property clearing. Also took about 1,300 pounds of scrap metal in the bed and drove fine as well. 6,000 pounds of scrap once in a 26' flatbed and for fun used it with tow ropes to tear apart a section of an old dry van trailer. That's where the scrap came from. If your fine with the reduced tow capacity and the high sitting bed, they make fine work vehicles
Wow, your reviews are amazing! Just earned another sub! I'll be sure to tell some buddies about your channel as well.
Fantastic, Allen! Thanks for watching. One sub at a time!
No problem! always a pleasure to help a fellow Canadian ;D
I'm really glad you did the US translations. Some people don't do that and it's aggravating.
Great review! I had wondered since it came out how it performed as a towing vehicle. Well now we know, thanks!
Toyota tundra has an adjustable headlights since 07 a must feature for trucks especially if you tow alot. can't believe all truck manufacturers didn't catch on yet
Adjustable, yes. But not automatic. Automatic headlight makes the adjustments on the fly. Thanks for writing, Alex.
Toyota hasn’t updated their design since 2007 either, ill take a more modern truck over such a small feature
I like they way you review. Very informative review. Good information.
Thanks for watching, Tim. Glad to help!
I’m confused, your video shows the raptor towing a 2400BH grand design , but at the end of the video , you noted the specs of the larger 2800BH (the trailer I Own myself)
You mentioned 32ft overall , and 6800lbs . But that does not match the trailer your video showed you towing?
greetings from Switzerland. nice car!
Super informative review . But correct if I’m wrong did you say this the raptor payload is only 1200 lbs ?
Great review thanks sir!
Dude great review
Great video. Question-I have a 2020, has the 802 pkg (trailer break, etc). I’m pulling a new TT that’s 6,800 lbs dry - same as your video. I also have a WDH system but still get squat. Should I fix that and how. I’m looking on line a upgraded bump stops, but I don’t get how they work as they don’t kick in until the Axel is in contact with the bump stop, but that’s after considerable squat. What do you suggest?
Awesome video
Sick!
Excellent! Thank you
How would this truck handle towing a 7k boat trailer. I use it every weekend. Would it just accelerate ware
I had my doubts with how this truck would do close to the max towing capacity but the larger trailer we used for this review felt good behind this truck. Even at highway speeds on a steady grade or taking corners, it felt far more solid with very minimal back end sag. With the right towing equipment, I'd imagine you'd be fine.
Gets about the same as a standard f150. I’ve seen these get 19mpg. Depends on driver I guess.
do a tundra pro tow please
Wait 18 city and 13 highway, so then the trailer was worthless to fuel economy light to light? Or are those numbers backwards?
Hi Cobb... the numbers aren't backwards BUT as I mentioned, the city mileage was without a trailer. So 18 city without a load and 13 highway with a 2700 lb trailer. That was over a 600 km road trip with a tail wind for quite some time and a much less efficient crosswind as well.
A new truck will tow fine, My 2014 has only 15K on it. My question is: How will it tow with 60K on it. Ford 5.0-6.2L have a great track record. Do you have any data on the older Raptors V8's and also the ECO boost 6 leaving you stranded ( Dessert towing 100 degrees + and uphill)? The 1st Raptors were "not" recommended to do any towing. Im concerned about the 6-cyl overheating in summer towing conditions. Has Ford increased oil cooling? I cant afford to replace the motor or trans after buying mine at a price more than some peoples homes.
Anybody with a Raptor with plenty of towing miles car to give their perspective here?
Family Wheels : I don't own a Raptor but I do tow a travel trailer with a 2016 F150 Ecoboost. We have completed a 300 mile trip going from 400 ft to 7000 ft in elevation in 90+ degree Fahrenheit weather.
The turbo motor at elevation pulled hard allowing us to maintain the speed limit (and more if we wanted) the cooling package is great and we had no issues with the A/C cranked. One downside was that fuel economy started to suffer because the turbos were spooled up needing additional fuel but compared to our old tow rig that ate fuel AND started to slow down above 5000 ft I have no regrets going with the Ecoboost V6.
MrJamesLuz Thank you, please let me know when you get to60K how it performs then. They perform great when new
Earth Quake that's not a bad idea. The truck currently has 6000 miles on it and yes vehicles while new will perform better. However Ford has built in many features designed to improve engine life. Examples include fuel maps to prevent overheating, oil scavenging to prevent oil sludge buildup in the turbos after engine shutoff, direct and port injection to prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves, and in the event of a severe overheat the computer will spool up the turbos and shut off fuel to opposite cylinders turning half the engine into an air pump until cylinder head temps come down. The technology is far advanced from engines developed even 5 years ago.
Research how the 2.7 ecoboost was built and developed. It has no exhaust manifolds to eliminate weight, gaskets, and maintenance. The turbos bolt directly to the cylinder head allowing the exhaust passages to be liquid cooled.
I wish there was a V8 option in the 2017, let the market decide. Another wish is that they will do a production run, like Tesla is doing. I would like to see everyone driving a ford/chevy, tired of seeing so many tundras on the road.
Beautiful truck. But if im living out of a camper and raptor travelling the U.S. for the next 20 years. Im biying a 6.2l raptor. If I'm randomly travelling then I can see this. But I have dreams
R S the second gen has more power for towing, and newer technology.
@@jaredchampagne2752 the turbos are never I repeat never going to be more reliable no matter what
And people say it needs a v8, please I'll keep the tt v6
Can a Raptor be ordered with a Coyote V8 ?
No V8 for 2017 but I've heard rumblings that it may have one as an option for 2018. Ford Canada would not confirm this with me.
Family Wheels
I doubt there's gonna be a V8 honestly
Ford is possibly gonna getting rid of the coyote some day soon
And I hate that idea
No
Please review the 2018 SQ5. I am very interested in how practical it is for a family.
I hope to get into the SQ5 some time in the summer. Keep your eyes on the channel!
Family Wheels Great! Can't wait.
I hate the dreaded tow squat
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