Bick4 is fantastic stuff. I use it on saddles and tac for horses. Horse sweat, the salts, do not help leather. That all must be cleaned up with the saddle soap. Good video.
FYI I didn’t have show trees when I got my first pair of boots so I used packaging paper and kitchen paper towels to act as shoe trees while I cleaned and conditioned them.
Thanks, Tobias! This is a great video! I really like Bickmore and Fiebing’s products, and I use cedar shoe trees religiously. I’ll follow this process to a T!
Regarding Bick4 for roughouts, I have used it for Red Wing's Olive mohave with no issues whatsoever. After 20-30 mins color went back to normal and the texture didn't change. Great stuff.
I have been watching this a lot, just to make sure I memorize the steps. I, like you, have a crazy horse boot in black (Motorcycle Boots) and was wondering if I could shine it after these or not? I was advised by the internet not to, but it is black.
@@sockthief9138 Crazy horse is a very oily leather. A lot of pull up. Leathers like this typically don’t hold a traditional shine well anywhere the leather bends so you would be limited to only shining the very tip of the toe and back of the heel if you want it to hold. If you’re looking just to get a nice shimmer back into the leather, a good amount of time with a horsehair brush after conditioning often does wonders.
@@WyattDadCobblerCompany would black crazy horse boots still show noticeable patinas? And, aside from these steps, just brush em everyday and after every use, right? And I have beeswax based conditioner here, should I opt for bick 4 or mink oil instead?
It’s better to wipe the suds off. The extra water will dilute the cleaner solution. That alters the ph balance of the solution and leather. You can kind of rinse the suds off with the solution without scrubbing. That way you don’t get more suds and you know the dirt rinsed away.
I’m not a fan of silicone. However, it’s a small amount in comparison to other ingredients in the formula. Also, it’s still one of the best products available on the market that we have found to date. We used Lexol conditioner for a long time, until they sold out to a bigger company and changed their formula. If you have a better option, you have our attention.
@@WyattDadCobblerCompany I just found out myself. I have used Bick 4 on all my Vintage Schott Leather Jackets. But lately use SAPHIR Greasy Leather Cream on my Boots.
@@petersilecchio4417 Just did some reading and I found it! It was .02% in an older formulation. It's is now .01%. It's only included as a light lubricant. Here is the source, from Reddit: "This comes up every so often on the subreddit and in private discussions. The silicone content in Bick4 was 0.02% in an older formulation. It's not confirmed what the content of it is now but a private label company that has done AMAs here said that their conditioner which was at the time formulated the same as Bick4 also had 0.02% silicone content for use as a lubricant. I think they mentioned to me that their silicone content went down to 0.01% in more recent formulations. It's an insignificant amount that doesn't by any means "leave an impermeable layer" on top of your leather even if you tried which is usually the argument against it. The worst damage I've seen from conditioners and product comes from the inexperience of users applying too much of one or more than one product trying to condition or undo something they've applied. The simplicity of Bick4 helps solve that by making it almost impossible to over apply and fuck up."
Tobias has the personality + skill and that makes him a fantastic cobbler 🥾
One of the best boot channel in UA-cam. I appreciate what you do a lot! Hope you grow a lot
Thanks!
Who takes 10 seconds to hit a button? Good thing you're a cobler and not a kinesiologist. I was just looking for this actually. Awesome as always.
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Awesome channel, great boot content!! I live in the Charlotte NC area so I'll be coming to you guys for all my boot repair needs
Bick4 is fantastic stuff. I use it on saddles and tac for horses. Horse sweat, the salts, do not help leather. That all must be cleaned up with the saddle soap. Good video.
FYI I didn’t have show trees when I got my first pair of boots so I used packaging paper and kitchen paper towels to act as shoe trees while I cleaned and conditioned them.
wealth of information thanks for taking the time to share, I sent my boots your way for a re-craft on two pair's of Redwing's. Thanks Gentleman
Thank you good video. New the boot 🥾 journey looking and learning much about I need to do, look for and a good shop. I appreciate the help 👍🏾
Just got my Chippewa's redone here in Winston-Salem. Great work guys!
Thanks! I’m glad Josh took good care of you!
Thanks, Tobias! This is a great video! I really like Bickmore and Fiebing’s products, and I use cedar shoe trees religiously. I’ll follow this process to a T!
Regarding Bick4 for roughouts, I have used it for Red Wing's Olive mohave with no issues whatsoever. After 20-30 mins color went back to normal and the texture didn't change. Great stuff.
Thanks for this feedback. It helps us advise properly
Sharp dressin cobbler over here! That blue yellow flannel was dope
Oh sh!t! Was this the origin of “stick along!” Lol that’s bada$$
@@taylorstagg9548 yep! He couldn’t get it out of his head 🤣
Looks like it’s time to finally clean my boots after years.
I have been watching this a lot, just to make sure I memorize the steps. I, like you, have a crazy horse boot in black (Motorcycle Boots) and was wondering if I could shine it after these or not? I was advised by the internet not to, but it is black.
@@sockthief9138 Crazy horse is a very oily leather. A lot of pull up. Leathers like this typically don’t hold a traditional shine well anywhere the leather bends so you would be limited to only shining the very tip of the toe and back of the heel if you want it to hold.
If you’re looking just to get a nice shimmer back into the leather, a good amount of time with a horsehair brush after conditioning often does wonders.
@@WyattDadCobblerCompany would black crazy horse boots still show noticeable patinas? And, aside from these steps, just brush em everyday and after every use, right? And I have beeswax based conditioner here, should I opt for bick 4 or mink oil instead?
That’s what I do!
Great stuff, will be sure to share some videos.
Another banger from the boots masters!! Keep up the kick ass content! 🤙🏻
What kind of boots are these in the video?
Boot Care 101
Give thanks!
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Keep it all y’all! Great content
great stuff, keep up the good work!
What are the shoe trees you're using? I'd like to get some but don't want to waste my money on something inferior. Thanks
We sell them. They are made by Woodlore and private branded for M&B
Stick Along!!!
Thanks for keeping it simple. I must admit that I feel compelled to "rinse" the boot after the suds. Am I wasting my time?
It’s better to wipe the suds off. The extra water will dilute the cleaner solution. That alters the ph balance of the solution and leather. You can kind of rinse the suds off with the solution without scrubbing. That way you don’t get more suds and you know the dirt rinsed away.
Great!!
Nice boot job! Who makes your apron?
Tobias made his own apron.
Hey T-Man.. Thanks for all the great content.. What kind/brand of boots are those?.. I want some rough and sexy boots like yours!
The pair in this video are Mark Albert in trail crazy horse. They will be recrafted and reviewed on this channel in the coming months!
What about for roughout/waxy leather? sno seal? VSC?
I wouldn't put Sno Seal on a boot upper, unless it's a hard use boot. It will change the boot color and leave a residue behind.
What kinda boots are they?
why not mayo on the sides?
BICKMORE Contains Silicone. What's your option on that. Check California spec sheet.
I’m not a fan of silicone. However, it’s a small amount in comparison to other ingredients in the formula. Also, it’s still one of the best products available on the market that we have found to date. We used Lexol conditioner for a long time, until they sold out to a bigger company and changed their formula. If you have a better option, you have our attention.
@@WyattDadCobblerCompany
I just found out myself. I have used Bick 4 on all my Vintage Schott Leather Jackets. But lately use SAPHIR Greasy Leather Cream on my Boots.
@@petersilecchio4417 I was reading somewhere that the silicone amount is under .02% and completely harmless.
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Hi. Thank You. Just wish they did not have any in it. But that is a very small amount.
@@petersilecchio4417 Just did some reading and I found it! It was .02% in an older formulation. It's is now .01%. It's only included as a light lubricant. Here is the source, from Reddit:
"This comes up every so often on the subreddit and in private discussions. The silicone content in Bick4 was 0.02% in an older formulation. It's not confirmed what the content of it is now but a private label company that has done AMAs here said that their conditioner which was at the time formulated the same as Bick4 also had 0.02% silicone content for use as a lubricant. I think they mentioned to me that their silicone content went down to 0.01% in more recent formulations.
It's an insignificant amount that doesn't by any means "leave an impermeable layer" on top of your leather even if you tried which is usually the argument against it.
The worst damage I've seen from conditioners and product comes from the inexperience of users applying too much of one or more than one product trying to condition or undo something they've applied. The simplicity of Bick4 helps solve that by making it almost impossible to over apply and fuck up."
Nice service boots, what are they?
Mark Albert
@@WyattDadCobblerCompany I have light crazy horse leather will it darken ?
@@jeffreycurtisjr9195 these products won’t darken them. They will darken with patina over time though
Which shoe trees do you guys prefer?
We carry the Moneysworth and Best cedar trees. They are made by Woodlore, I believe.
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