Riverpod or Bloc? Which One is Better?

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  • Опубліковано 20 лют 2023
  • 📄You will see side by side comparison between two well-known state management solutions in the Flutter framework i-e Bloc & Riverpod. How they are different from each other and what to choose from them for your next project.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 84

  • @RandalLSchwartz
    @RandalLSchwartz Рік тому +85

    I believe bloc is the right choice when you're working on a team of varying skill levels. It has one primary way of distributing events, and everything sorta circles around that. Riverpod offers far more flexibility... but with great power comes great responsibility, and some mastery is recommended. Riverpod can even be used in "bloc" mode with streams if you want... That said, I reach for riverpod for pretty much every project I'm influencing, whether it's a few classes, or a few hundred classes. Riverpod scales well.

  • @RandalLSchwartz
    @RandalLSchwartz Рік тому +28

    Riverpod *has* a StreamProvider. Most of riverpod has nothing to do with streams, and uses a far simpler but more flexible strategy of ProviderListenables. So the comment mid-video about them both using streams is already wrong. Some of the other things are also marginal.

  • @zdenekkrcal9066
    @zdenekkrcal9066 Рік тому +30

    Riverpod is excellent and easier to use now with riverpod annotations.

  • @akshattamrakar9071
    @akshattamrakar9071 Рік тому +23

    Bloc is better as it extracts all the implementation in separate location. It's works great for teams

    • @sahilambure
      @sahilambure Рік тому +6

      It is good for beginner to advance app. But riverpod scales better than BLOc

    • @abrorbobomurodov2361
      @abrorbobomurodov2361 Рік тому +1

      ​@@sahilamburefor team work Bloc would be great choice

  • @moisesbinzie
    @moisesbinzie Рік тому +22

    Well explained. With that comparison, I finally understood a bit of Bloc. Coming from Provider, It was easy for me to transtion to Riverpod than Bloc

  • @noursalman932
    @noursalman932 Рік тому +8

    Coming from BLoC (Cubit) background, I actually learned to use Riverpod from this comparison, better than any Riverpod tutorial I came across. Many thanks!

  • @conceptcoder
    @conceptcoder Рік тому +17

    It's like "Fireship taste" when see this video... 😎

  • @sharbelokzan9673
    @sharbelokzan9673 8 місяців тому +2

    I’m experienced with bloc but was a bit confused with riverpod, this helped a lot! Thanks

  • @sahilambure
    @sahilambure Рік тому +8

    Riverpod is better for big apps.

  • @Quicky121
    @Quicky121 Рік тому +15

    I tried Cubit, BLoC and (sadly) Redux and for me BLoC is the better. It has a clean way to write your business logic and all the Builder, Listener widgets keep your code clean. I read some comments that says that Riverpod scales up better and I'm curious to see if it's true. Maybe an hint for next video? :P
    Thanks for the video!

  • @joshuanwokoye
    @joshuanwokoye Рік тому

    Very straight forward!

  • @h3w45
    @h3w45 27 днів тому

    Thank you very well explained

  • @guycz
    @guycz Рік тому +8

    My opinion - Riverpod

  • @alphaNaj
    @alphaNaj Рік тому +1

    great content you are making, keep it up

  • @przemysawlusnia720
    @przemysawlusnia720 Рік тому +3

    Great comparison, thanks. I found a minor bug in 1:25 on the right example - "state.user == null" is copy-pasted from the left example, but there's no reference to state actually

    • @flutterguys
      @flutterguys  Рік тому

      Yes you are right, Thank you ❤✌

  • @phillip_jacobs
    @phillip_jacobs Рік тому +5

    Looks like Riverpod is the winner in the comments. Riverpod it is then!

  • @site.x9448
    @site.x9448 4 місяці тому

    Wow. Sir, what software do you use for such editing?

  • @fegartyx8271
    @fegartyx8271 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm still confused right now, like many job requirements want to use bloc than riverpod

  • @edigunawan1062
    @edigunawan1062 Рік тому +2

    i only use riverpod now since i found provider lack context control. i'll try bloc when i found lack of riverpod because people said bloc is great for complete separate business logic.

  • @robbrooks5263
    @robbrooks5263 Рік тому +7

    Explain to me like I'm a 5 year-old why I need to adopt one of these in preference to plain old Provider.
    What am I missing?

    • @phillip_jacobs
      @phillip_jacobs Рік тому +1

      Probably just the size of your app.

    • @RandalLSchwartz
      @RandalLSchwartz Рік тому +8

      I've migrated three projects from Provider to Riverpod. Each time, the code get simpler, more robust, and more featureful, and easier to maintain.

  • @jointtask4047
    @jointtask4047 Рік тому +15

    Bloc has a lot of boilerplate code involved, I wound prefer Riverpod

    • @justinprakashraj6256
      @justinprakashraj6256 Рік тому +3

      what is boilerplate ?

    • @baruchfavour9358
      @baruchfavour9358 Рік тому +1

      Much of code could be unnecessary sometimes

    • @justinprakashraj6256
      @justinprakashraj6256 Рік тому +1

      @@baruchfavour9358 thanks BFavour

    • @user-rh1sw6ji6t
      @user-rh1sw6ji6t Рік тому

      How about getx?

    • @Quicky121
      @Quicky121 Рік тому +2

      I don't know man, it has some boilerplate but for events and state you can use freezed library to solve this, resulting in less boilerplate and cleaner code. Give it a try!

  • @davisburnside9609
    @davisburnside9609 5 місяців тому

    Why would I want bloc a river as no competing pods are crossing state crosspods?

  • @mohamedabdelrehem7698
    @mohamedabdelrehem7698 Рік тому

    are you real
    this video the first of your videos pop to me and now i just watched mostly all of your videos♥♥♥♥

  • @dolbysoundsofficial9323
    @dolbysoundsofficial9323 Рік тому +3

    Riverpod

  • @abasilis
    @abasilis 8 місяців тому

    Hi, Excellent video, thanks. At the end you mentioned depends on the scale of the peoject, so, which one to use in a bigger project?

  • @YS_Yousef
    @YS_Yousef 6 місяців тому

    please make the soundeffects lower and get some better ones

  • @erlangparasu6339
    @erlangparasu6339 6 місяців тому

    bloc because more recognize with all class contains prefix "Bloc" :)

  • @rsajdok
    @rsajdok Рік тому +1

    riverpod has less boiler plate code

  • @kamil_supabase_enjoyer
    @kamil_supabase_enjoyer Рік тому +8

    From my expierience riverpod is more elastic. Bloc is good in simple apps

    • @NOBODYxx09
      @NOBODYxx09 Рік тому +8

      No, bloc is the choice for bigger apps believe me i have been there 😉

    • @bouyahyabilel2437
      @bouyahyabilel2437 8 місяців тому +1

      No , bloc is the great choice for bigger app , also when you work with team

  • @justinprakashraj6256
    @justinprakashraj6256 Рік тому +2

    BLOC 🔹❤️

  • @algeriennesaffaires7017
    @algeriennesaffaires7017 Рік тому +1

    Even i have been developing with flutter for 4 years, but i can't understand this video. The correct question is, what is the problem block or provider solve, and set State can't do it? Im using set State, and it's good enough

    • @flutterguys
      @flutterguys  Рік тому

      In big apps, you cannot use set state to manage the state, and you need to manage the structured state and avoid complexity.

    • @algeriennesaffaires7017
      @algeriennesaffaires7017 Рік тому +1

      @Flutter Guys thanks, i have a medium-sized app that took me 4 years now to maintain i ts little complicated, yes, but it's well controlled with just set State

    • @bhakinkhantarjeerawat8163
      @bhakinkhantarjeerawat8163 Рік тому +2

      @@algeriennesaffaires7017 Interesting! I really like when people can use simple methods to manage things, especially the old staff, and it still works well.

    • @sangamgiri1071
      @sangamgiri1071 Рік тому

      Yes I have used default setState in bigger projects too but at some point everything starts getting messy so Bloc is recommended

    • @teajay6545
      @teajay6545 Рік тому +2

      I can only imagine the pain and length you have to go through to make your apps conform to using setState only phew 😮‍💨 (I smell anti-pattern)

  • @IncompleteTheory
    @IncompleteTheory Рік тому +2

    Provider FTW.

  • @federicopintaluba3039
    @federicopintaluba3039 Рік тому +3

    The main problem I see with Riverpod is that anyone, from anywhere, can read a notifier and change the state,

    • @flutterguys
      @flutterguys  Рік тому +2

      Riverpod document :
      Do not be frightened by the global aspect of providers. Providers are fully immutable. Declaring a provider is no different from declaring a function, and providers are testable and maintainable.

    • @federicopintaluba3039
      @federicopintaluba3039 Рік тому

      @@flutterguys Yeah, providers are immutable, but their states are mutable, and public.
      I'm not saying it's bad, it's just the problem I see.

    • @RandalLSchwartz
      @RandalLSchwartz Рік тому +4

      @@federicopintaluba3039 "but their states are mutable, and public.". No, they aren't. You must pass through a function to update the state of a Notifier (sync, Future or Stream). If you're calling that mutable or public, you need to look closer. Perhaps you're thinking of the legacy StateProvider, which was a stopgap introduced to get people at least one step away from globals. But that pattern while still supported, is no longer recommended. Instead, immutable state with defined updating methods is now the primary API.

    • @federicopintaluba3039
      @federicopintaluba3039 Рік тому +4

      @@RandalLSchwartz This is actually good news to me, because some months ago I could set the state from anywhere like: `ref.read(randomProvider.notifier).state = newState;`, so at that point, either state was mutable/public or not protected. It's good to see its immutable now. Thank you for letting me know about this.

    • @federicopintaluba3039
      @federicopintaluba3039 Рік тому

      Or, it's the legacy StateProvider as you said.

  • @dadlord689
    @dadlord689 Місяць тому

    Working for years with Unity and Unreal engines... this is frustrating. You can't over complicate messaging more.

  • @bilal1708
    @bilal1708 4 місяці тому

    I prefer Provider 😅

  • @miranantamiangr
    @miranantamiangr 6 місяців тому

    You have to change your voiceover ai to elevenlabs or something slower. It’s very bad and rushed now

  • @TheRealFFS
    @TheRealFFS 9 місяців тому

    You want to go over this any faster pal?

  • @markosunbro2732
    @markosunbro2732 Місяць тому

    Mobx )))

  • @ai_mak354
    @ai_mak354 Рік тому

    GetX!!!))

  • @salmaindrianputri164
    @salmaindrianputri164 Рік тому

    But im with getx

  • @MarcelinoDavid111
    @MarcelinoDavid111 3 місяці тому +1

    Riverpod

  • @AbdulRahim-ok1vs
    @AbdulRahim-ok1vs Рік тому +1

    Riverpod