Storage and Security for your Gold & Silver at home!

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  • @coinsstampsandcollectibles3552
    @coinsstampsandcollectibles3552 5 років тому +28

    I don't display anything in the house, and say nothing about what I have. That is a big help to begin with.

  • @killerzen17
    @killerzen17 5 років тому +45

    I'd say be careful with whom you share your stack with. It can be really tempting to talk with co workers, friends and family about your hobbies. But statistics have shown robbery and murder are usually commited by someone personally associated to the victim. And maybe your friend is nice, but isn't great at keeping things on the down low lol.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +4

      Yes indeed, this is a very important thing to think about.

    • @somefuckstolemynick
      @somefuckstolemynick 3 роки тому +2

      And even if you only tell people you absolutely trust, they might tell people who _they_ trust, and _they_ might in turn tell people _they_ trust etc etc..

  • @eddieslittlestack7919
    @eddieslittlestack7919 5 років тому +10

    Great topic. One thing that I do and will share is I have a portable safe in my closet with noting but some spare change in it to rattle. Covered up with a tshirt making it look 'hidden' that's my decoy! Also keep it in multible locations and multible places with a location (depenting on quaintly).

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      A great idea to have a decoy stack for sure. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and tips!

  • @joshkent4888
    @joshkent4888 5 років тому +15

    First of all I keep a couple of 'Cheapies' on show to distract the opportunistic thieves. I keep some of my stack in a fire and waterproof safe with a GPS tag inside it. However, most of my bullion is buried 1m underground in a secure place in waterproof packaging on a rural property, only my wife and I know where and the location is noted in my will with my lawyer.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts and tactics!

    • @jeffedney6336
      @jeffedney6336 4 роки тому +1

      Can you say if the you store it in your own or family property or some other vague category description?

    • @firearmsstudent
      @firearmsstudent 4 роки тому +4

      Only thing that humans dig out of the ground to put right back in it

    • @jesseflores9087
      @jesseflores9087 3 роки тому +2

      @@firearmsstudent we still chase shiny rocks, haven’t evolved much.

    • @wlaklak
      @wlaklak 3 роки тому

      The thiefs from Middle East can steal a piece of glass if it looks good

  • @71avalon36
    @71avalon36 3 роки тому +6

    I keep my bullion in a safe deposit box at my bank. Pro: Much safer than storing/hiding at home. Con: You don't have 24/7 access to your treasures. I found that, for me, the pro outweighs the con by far.

    • @matthoffman6962
      @matthoffman6962 2 роки тому +3

      Con- bank fucks up and raids your safety deposit box. Not the first time that’s happened

  • @happynomadic1581
    @happynomadic1581 5 років тому +8

    My grandfather has his American Gold Eagles hidden behind a family picture frame we found after his death..... really nice spot!😄

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +3

      Hopefully he told someone about them though, did you happen upon them? What if there are more hiding in the house you can't find!

    • @happynomadic1581
      @happynomadic1581 5 років тому +2

      @@BackyardBullion found by accident but that was 20 years ago my father and my uncles went through everything and didn't find anything else 🤣

  • @ziaride
    @ziaride 4 роки тому +4

    I've been robbed 4 times in the last 25 years all in different locations. My thieves took things that were visible and easy to carry that looked valuable and not too smart about what actually was valuable. Less than $500 worth of stuff taken each time, still a pain to have to deal with. Now I keep a dummy safe with rolls of cents and nickles in it under my desk and another with old motorcycle battery in the back of a bedroom closet ;) If burgled again hopefully they'll find those and take them and run. Real stash is hidden pretty well in different locations.

    • @ziaride
      @ziaride 4 роки тому

      @@M.Montgomery USA

    • @john-ze7eu
      @john-ze7eu Рік тому

      4 times?? Jeez, where in the hell do you live??

  • @Callum29D
    @Callum29D 5 років тому +10

    I took reciept of a very small quantity of silver the other day. Purchased it from The Royal Mint, but the package was absolutely plastered in warnings and completely obvious what was inside (multiple references to royal mint, consignee only and the word 'numatic' on it). The delivery man told my mother he thought it was a precious package. Does this happen with all orders? Is it normal? Is it normal for the UK? I am very new to stacking and dislike delivery staff from 3rd party distribution centres knowing details about my orders and the precise order location of my metals. I'd be interested to hear of any companies that deliver discretely, or whether it's an industry-standard to light the package up like a christmas tree on heat...

    • @billytheweasel
      @billytheweasel 4 роки тому +5

      Should be a discrete package. Even boner pills come in brown paper wrappers AFAIK.

  • @veritasfiles
    @veritasfiles 5 років тому +3

    I've found that hiding things in plain sight and having a lot of fake and clad coins hanging around in obvious places is often enough to keep the core of your stack quite safe.

  • @eddieslittlestack7919
    @eddieslittlestack7919 5 років тому +7

    I looked into home owners insurance and the insurance lady said just about what you said BYB. You have update the policy every time you buy a 10 oz bar or a few rounds. I'm not doing that every pay check! Also me personally I'm just total against sharing my belonging with the insurance company!!

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +2

      Yep, same here. Not going to fly and it's just a recipe for the insurance company to not pay out when you need them to.

    • @eddieslittlestack7919
      @eddieslittlestack7919 5 років тому

      Yap we think alike.
      + OPSEC 😎

  • @jeffedney6336
    @jeffedney6336 4 роки тому

    Our home has been broken into twice. First, the thieves only went thru drawers and into closets, but didn't go into our child's room. We live in a state where tornadoes have struct, and fires are a risk at any home. Deception works. Put stuff where no one would ever think anything valuable would be located. Put coins in a can of beans looking container stored in a storage shed that is covered by a lock and alarm.

  • @Malagent
    @Malagent 3 роки тому +1

    1. Generally a gun safe is nowhere near as well made and secure as a typical safe. This is especially true in regards to being "fireproof."
    2. Insurance. Homeowners and renters insurance will not cover currency or any proxy for such. You will have to get a specific policy to cover things like precious metals.

  • @Malagent
    @Malagent 3 роки тому +3

    The biggest security advice is not to tell people about your stack, even your friends & family. Loose lips sink ships and get people robbed. One of your friends bragging about your silver stack can lead to you being a target. You may trust these people but trust me they talk. Even an innocent conversation can lead to revealing your wealth as a target.

  • @andyb8838
    @andyb8838 2 роки тому +2

    Good advice, thank you

  • @harryzero1566
    @harryzero1566 5 років тому +3

    So nice to see that 1oz gold QB White Lion of Mortimer, I'm looking forward to having one in my hand. SorryYB, here is my story, tools to break in were used to pry open a bolted down safe. Bolting down the safe facilitated access. My advice if you have a safe, leave it accidentally unlocked with some cheap dress jewelry in it. Look at your furniture for possible voids, ie. radiator covers, fire surrounds, create voids in cupboards and book cases using matching materials. Create a false 'floors' underneath tables. How about behind silicon sealed to the floor plinths panels under kitcken units. The silicon sealed boards can be hinged down to reveal a copious void. What about a false floor if you have a chest freezer? Check out a host of ideas from double bagging in tins of paint to false sewer pipes if you have a basement and many other ideas on UA-cam. Going on holiday? Make sure your address is not exposed on your luggage and if possible have a trusted family or friend to house sit, reciprocate when they go on holiday. By the way, my safe is a gun safe designed to hold ammunition so that it has shelving.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts and tips Harry, being creative in your hiding places is one of the best ways to protect your stack

  • @bezo8162
    @bezo8162 5 років тому +4

    Agreed...must have multiple levels of security. I might add, watch out for electronic safes, they can be cracked with rare Earth magnets. Personally I like digging holes!!! Just make sure the kids don't throw the map away😂😂😂 Keep doing what you do👍

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      Yes, it's quite alarming how fast those safes are unlocked!

  • @garrycroft4215
    @garrycroft4215 5 років тому +4

    Great video BYB, some good ideas. The gun safe is a very good idea as is decoys and some less valuable hidden in plain sight. I would add an intruder alarm, cameras and means of self protection.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      Thanks for the comment and thoughts buddy,l!

  • @markbass354
    @markbass354 5 років тому +8

    BYB sometimes I wonder what we say on videos and write in the replies here may not be such a good idea , saying I got this coin or that coin but we have to communicate , I just dont tell my neighbors but I'm sure the mailman knows , its kind of scary but we cant live in fear.
    Good advice

    • @alabonga
      @alabonga 5 років тому +4

      So far the mailman, ups and FedEx all got nosy and asked what's in my package, they all know. I had to tell them I'm stacking ammunition but I don't think they believe me.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +4

      I have said a few times it's "geological" samples and specimens, aka, Rocks. Hopefully this will work!

    • @EnlightenedPatriot1
      @EnlightenedPatriot1 5 років тому +2

      I always tip my postman at Christmas, especially as he signs signable deliveries and then puts them in my locked postbox

  • @LatimusChadimus
    @LatimusChadimus 3 роки тому

    Simple addition; creative layers, as well as I practice diversifying my storage

  • @colinfox6961
    @colinfox6961 5 років тому +4

    The easiest way to hide your gold or silver is to go to a home depot, buy 1metre of toilet pipe 100mm, buy a blank end cap for one end and a screw end cap, which has a rubber seal for the other end.cut the pipe to the amount of storage you need, then use plumbers pipe solvent to glue the two ends on.now you have a waterproof safe. Easy to open and shut, just fill up and bury somewhere in your garden etc. If really paranoid scatter a load of iron nails or likewise to prevent metal detectors.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +1

      Thanks for the great tips, good ideas here!

  • @silvertaniwha1314
    @silvertaniwha1314 5 років тому +4

    Great video BYB 😎 awesome info and fantastic advice. Personally I'm collecting silver purely to eventually melt down and custom cast. Kept hidden and in plain site....
    Keep the cool videos coming. Enjoy getting my fix.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      Thanks very much for the comment - keeping in plain sight is also a good tactic, if you can get creative that's all the better!

    • @silvertaniwha1314
      @silvertaniwha1314 5 років тому

      One day when I've had a lil bit more practice I'll make something personal and special with silver for your personal collection.

  • @TheMrSpadey
    @TheMrSpadey 5 років тому +4

    Most thieves will steer well clear of gun cabinets in the uk. Theft of a firearm is serious business and just isn’t worth the potential payout. There also built really well and surprisingly cheap for there size.

  • @ginger8383
    @ginger8383 5 років тому +2

    Display boxes are a pain, no space in lock box and a liability if empty box sitting around so they go to my decoy and the one my wife knows about ;)

  • @ricsfunvids3321
    @ricsfunvids3321 5 років тому +3

    I just finished an under ground safe. Made of concrete. I have a couple of pcs of silver inside a 5 gal- air tight pail. Test run. I know it will flood and freeze so i want to see how it fairs. Mite make a video. But gotta keep it SHHhh. Rite !?

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      Interesting stuff, is it hidden well though otherwise people will just find it and force you to open it!

    • @ricsfunvids3321
      @ricsfunvids3321 5 років тому

      @@BackyardBullion Of corse. Gave it a lot of thought. Only my daughter knows and put it in my Will just in case. Completely buried under something inconspicuous. But easy access yr round- l hope- we will see. Part of the test.

  • @sugarbabyluxury
    @sugarbabyluxury 5 років тому +1

    Good alarm system , good cctv system , sash jammers and high end locks, very expensive hidden safe bolted to concrete floor and a cheaper dummy safe in another room with silver and fake coins . Good luck to them 😂

    • @wlaklak
      @wlaklak 3 роки тому

      They will come and ask again. Also CCTV is to scream like "come here"

  • @TrevorHoneyball
    @TrevorHoneyball 5 років тому +1

    Three houses were burgled in our area in the past two weeks and each time they got away with large amounts of Indian gold. The last house that was burgled had €200,000 of Indian gold taken from the house! Think most people would conclude that these burglars had inside information. As we all know £200,000 of gold is easily transportable and there will always be an unscrupulous buyer around to purchase it...

    • @garrycroft4215
      @garrycroft4215 5 років тому +1

      That's awful, perhaps it's a cultural thing with India love for gold, do they also drive a high end car? That could make them a target.

    • @TrevorHoneyball
      @TrevorHoneyball 5 років тому +2

      @@garrycroft4215Indian people use gold in religious ceremonies, give it as wedding gifts, birthday presents and most families with money like to purchase some gold jewelry etc. I suppose the wealthy Indians purchase gold to conserve their money- let's face the wealthy do this in every country! I am surprised though they had £200,000 of gold in their house? Three houses containing Indian gold all burgled within a short period of time? It just has to be a group of people, most probably within their own community, that have burgled these houses....

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +2

      That's definitely a crew with some preparation and inside knowledge.

  • @D130401
    @D130401 5 років тому +2

    That's a problem with stacking as a hobby. Normally you join a group and talk about what you have. Stackers don't do this. The only one who knows I have PM's is my brother in a different state. SO I have an alarm system, my 9 mm, a safe and some hidden elsewear.

  • @MrDead1975
    @MrDead1975 5 років тому +1

    This vid makes me miss my lunar II 1/10 collection. The 1/10th bullion mouse carries a huge premium now even over the proof version.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      Yep, the 20th Oz version here has a huge premium too!

  • @jacksongleason1820
    @jacksongleason1820 4 роки тому +1

    I’m a 16 year old coin collector. A little over a year ago I had most of my collection stollen. If there’s any advice I have. Expect people to be snooping around. Don’t trust family friends or co workers to be around your belongings while you have your back turned. Last but not least always insure your coins the rates aren’t bad and it’s definitely worth paying.

    • @jplifts3008
      @jplifts3008 3 роки тому +1

      I’m 14 and I have around $3000 in gold and silver coins and some numismatic coins as well. I have a 100 pound safe. It’s fire proof it’s mostly for that because it could be easily carried off. But I have it hidden under blanket around a couple plastic bins and some old guitar cases and my spare amp. Don’t brag at all ever to anyone except your parents. Siblings may tell friends at school especially younger ones and the friends tell their parents which may rob you when your not home. So I hope that you have continued to collect and stack. I’m sorry that happened to you. How much was your collection worth when it was stollen.

  • @billytheweasel
    @billytheweasel 4 роки тому +3

    If your house burns with gold inside, wont there still be the same weight of gold but in blob form?

    • @gooney0
      @gooney0 3 роки тому +3

      lol "blob form"

    • @roberta6804
      @roberta6804 3 роки тому +1

      The house fire wont be hot enough to melt it

  • @JesusIsLord1976
    @JesusIsLord1976 2 роки тому

    Is the attic a good option?
    My concern is doing summer in summer months. That can be as high as 140 in the attic I seen this past year.
    Thoughts?

  • @stuartmcmahon8870
    @stuartmcmahon8870 3 роки тому

    I am sooooo Envious of your collections....

  • @ban25818
    @ban25818 5 років тому +2

    Hi BYB,
    Is that a 1oz gold proof lion?
    Interesting topic. I quite like the locker companies as they have insurance as well as provide easy access to your locker. One downside is to find one near where you live can be a challenge.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +2

      It's a 1 oz bullion lion and a 1/4 oz proof - I'm not a fan of off site storage, but it has its benefits.

  • @ocomegashadowstacking5886
    @ocomegashadowstacking5886 5 років тому +2

    Wow really amazing video ever!! :D

  • @adamjankowski7679
    @adamjankowski7679 3 роки тому

    I grabbed up a trtl30 safe for $450. Hide this in a corner of the garage in a wooden box and its By far the safest way to store your valuables.

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 2 роки тому

      Wow,that sounds cheap for a TRTL.

    • @adamjankowski7679
      @adamjankowski7679 2 роки тому +1

      @@Whateva67 a guy had 4 of them he was using for explosive storage for granite quary mines. He was closing down shop and not a lot of people need such a safe so the market was somewhat saturated I guess... he offered to sell me a matching one for 150 when I was on site. My truck is only a 1500 so 6000lbs in the bed would have made it a little unsafe to drive or else I would have 2.

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 2 роки тому

      @@adamjankowski7679 cool. I have an old antique safe that’s the size of a dishwasher, it weighs two thousand pounds, inside the outer Locked door is another 4 combo safe that is over two inches thick, it makes the inside so small so that it’ll only hold three or four monster boxes. Hello from British Columbia

  • @levkriscoins9115
    @levkriscoins9115 5 років тому +1

    Really enjoyed watching this my friend 😊

  • @wildpett
    @wildpett 5 років тому

    I like the Kurgerrands

  • @Silvertarian
    @Silvertarian 5 років тому +1

    I heard someone use an interesting rule of thumb. You shouldn't store more that 10x the value of the safe in said safe.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      Yes indeed, this is probably a wise idea!

    • @somefuckstolemynick
      @somefuckstolemynick 3 роки тому

      And this rule of thumb is based on... what exactly? Seems highly arbitrary.
      Fort Knox has nearly 300 billion dollar worth of gold in it. Highly doubt they spent 30 billion dollar building it.
      Better look at objective measures of the security (such as actual tests of the safe) or listen to professions.

  • @HELLH0WND
    @HELLH0WND 3 роки тому +9

    So leave a fully loaded pistol ready to fire inside the safe.

  • @fiatdestroyer9716
    @fiatdestroyer9716 4 роки тому +1

    There are plenty of creative hiding spots around the house, if one puts his mind to discovering them!

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  4 роки тому

      yes indeed

    • @somefuckstolemynick
      @somefuckstolemynick 3 роки тому

      If you can find hiding spots in your house, so can thieves.
      And as houses tend to be more or less similar, so does the hiding places.

    • @fiatdestroyer9716
      @fiatdestroyer9716 3 роки тому

      @@somefuckstolemynick That's a good point...thus the need to be creative! Why not...inside a washing machine? Inside cans of paint?

    • @somefuckstolemynick
      @somefuckstolemynick 3 роки тому

      @@fiatdestroyer9716 thieves are creative too, and my point is they have more experience. They know where people hide stuff.

  • @RegJustReg
    @RegJustReg 3 роки тому

    I dont let anyone know what I have. I have 2 safes, one safe is the decoy, and my main safe is in the floor.

  • @captainmandri8376
    @captainmandri8376 5 років тому +2

    You could always track down you safe in seconds if you throw a GPS tracker in there.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +3

      Yes, but if they open it you are up poo creek

  • @David_Quinn_Photography
    @David_Quinn_Photography 3 роки тому

    very great video, I was thinking about getting a light lockbox just to get them in and get them out safe with things I am ok with losing or false coins. my neighbor walked into his house mid robbery and he said he would have rather found out after or had it happen while he was home.
    the billions are just more silver to me as well I even play with my silver look at it and enjoy it, whats the point if you are not going to enjoy it.

  • @coppersulphate002
    @coppersulphate002 3 роки тому

    Best way is to not mention it to anyone. And act and look poor and homeless. That keeps the robbers away
    But we live in a time where robbers would steal fiat money; computers and cellphone and TV. They absolutely have no understanding of the value of precious metals.

  • @justmeonthebeach
    @justmeonthebeach 5 років тому

    Interesting, thanks.

  • @AshokKumar-je9bj
    @AshokKumar-je9bj 5 років тому +2

    Switzerland Helvetia coin L1935B 20fr gold indian price

  • @madmunky8989
    @madmunky8989 4 роки тому +2

    Rule no.1: tell no body
    Rule no.2: dont show off
    Rule no.3: dont put all your precious in one basket... Lol
    Rule no.4: dont make it obvious to obvious where it located

    • @David_Quinn_Photography
      @David_Quinn_Photography 3 роки тому

      5: have a false Gi Go safe, you want a robber in and out as quick as possible.

  • @RussellBury
    @RussellBury 5 років тому +2

    Why buy a safe when you have so much open space in the back of the washing machine, just take the back off and fill. CCT did a great vid showing some good ideas, getting some plumbing pipe filled with coins stuck under your sink etc but is is horrible that you cant just have a nice display to proudly show any guest your passion without fear of the five finger git.

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      Get creative! It's the best way to protect your gold!

    • @vladoholic8497
      @vladoholic8497 5 років тому

      Washing machine can start a fire and guess what would burn first then?

    • @RussellBury
      @RussellBury 5 років тому

      @@vladoholic8497 on the other hand when you see images of a burnt out home the 1 item that survived was the washing machine, its steel and stainless on concrete with its own built in water defenses in a tight space not rich in oxygen low down to escape smoke contamination, i think 14% of fires are caused by washing machines, tumble driers and dish washers combined so you have an 86% chance of having your metal in the right place lol. But i was making the point of thinking outside of the box, how much wasted space is there under the bath? or keep your hot water tank if you have a combi boiler fitted and stack it in a converted empty storage cylinder.

  • @robertjackson6346
    @robertjackson6346 5 років тому

    Just a thought, when thieves break and enter, they go for the fastest takes(unless of course they know when you'll be returning), that said, they usually go for the STUDY, or the MASTER BEDROOM.

  • @womblestacker7993
    @womblestacker7993 5 років тому +1

    What is the difference from a bullion coin and a proof

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +5

      A proof coin is made to a higher standard of strike and is often a special edition of a standard coin.

  • @derek1195
    @derek1195 3 роки тому

    If my house burns down I'll be able to find the melted metals

  • @DutchSilverStacker
    @DutchSilverStacker 5 років тому

    i might have been a target last year with new year because my neighbours vault was stolen 😉🙄 now i moved so no need to worry now lol🤣

  • @coyotegrad-collectables
    @coyotegrad-collectables 5 років тому +1

    Does anyone trust a post office box or post office box store to send mail to?

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому

      I don't store things with the Post Office but they seem to be just fine for sending stuff too

  • @buffalobmf
    @buffalobmf 2 роки тому

    Yea this is America someone breaks in when im home the ar15 comes out. No ones telling me to open my safe

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  2 роки тому

      Ok, then they shoot you? Sounds good to me.

    • @buffalobmf
      @buffalobmf 2 роки тому

      @@BackyardBullion naw i shoot them. That door isnt for my protection its for the dumbass who thinks theyre going to get out alive.
      Soon as that door or window breaks open its game over for them

  • @jamesbarnes4964
    @jamesbarnes4964 Рік тому

    I own a gun safe for my air rifles as I have kids deffo recommend

  • @sammacdonald9711
    @sammacdonald9711 5 років тому +2

    How on earth does gold melt in a house fire?

    • @BackyardBullion
      @BackyardBullion  5 років тому +3

      You would be surprised how hot a house fire gets - gold melts at only 1050 degrees and some bonfires get that hot depending on the fuel that's in there. So definitely possible

    • @garrycroft4215
      @garrycroft4215 5 років тому

      @@BackyardBullion 1,500°-2,000° not uncommon, what does glass melt at? because it often does.

  • @LassieFarm
    @LassieFarm 2 роки тому

    A gun safe is not high security.

  • @gerrykelly-zk6lf
    @gerrykelly-zk6lf 5 років тому

    I only keep my eye candy silver coins with me in a lock box. If that is stolen I don't care(much). I keep my gold in a private vault in my own lock box. I opt for the additional insurance so I'm doubly covered. I would not be comfortable having any gold in the house.

  • @styx62ga95
    @styx62ga95 3 роки тому

    If they break into my house while I’m home they won’t be alive long enough to ask me any questions, best believe that shit.

  • @jayb-clay2724
    @jayb-clay2724 5 років тому +1

    You need to hide it in plain sight.