Flea Talks About The Chili Peppers’ Decision To Fire Josh Klinghoffer To Rehire John Frusciante!
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2023
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Flea Talks About The Chili Peppers’ Decision To Fire Josh Klinghoffer To Rehire John Frusciante!
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@@sutraman.Well said sir
Why did Mozart move that one time. Do you know?
The Josh era was underated & incredible. The versus of Raindance Maggie had a freaky styley type edge to it. The Dark necessities single had that edge as well. With that being said, it was still a dream come true for the mothers milk line up to reunite one more time. Both John & Josh have their own vibe & brought red hot so much in my opinion, as Hillel, Dave & jack did as well during their time w. The band.
Brendans Death Song is in my top 5 all time of RHCP songs. Its incredible.
Yea, John is one of my 2 or 3 greatest inspirations but I'll be the first to admit that Dark Necessities is one of the Peppers great tunes. Josh should be incredibly proud of that and Brandon's Death Song. Not to mention the _incredible_ work he did live with the band.
@@AnodyneHipsterInfluencerEso es una verdad, Dark Necessities debería ser tocada en todos los shows
Too bad they never made a record with Arik Marshall. Probably would’ve been their funkiest work since Freaky Styley. 🤷🏼♂️
What Josh did in the bridge of "Meet Me at the Corner" is superhuman, I dare say it's the best backing vocal of RHCP's entire career
Imo josh was under appreciated by the other members, i mean afterall he was Frusciante’s friend and original second tour guitar in the early 00’s
You were not in those rehearsals, writing sessions or on that stage. Any fan could clearly see that flea and Chad both doubled their game when Josh came onboard.
All of them like him. But Frusciante is their band imo. Their noticeably better from a song writing perspective with John in the band. Plus he’s got a very unique style that is hard to replace
Eh he just didn’t fit. The albums with him are okay, but not even close to John
Josh was at best a decent cover guitarist for the Chili Peppers. He played the older materials well (tho his Californication solos were subpar) and always happy to play rarely played songs. He wrote decent albums with no real RHCP masterpieces… and I suspect he didn’t even have a good experience recording the two albums with Rubin and Danger Mouse. The best Chili Peppers line up is the one we have right now. If I were Josh, I’d start a new band so the pro-Josh fans can start recovering from the trauma of being dumped.
Don't ever forget that frusciante fan boys will always swallow anything he puts out. I'm a massive fan of him to. But on the last two albums there's a butch of songs Josh would of gotten ripped for. Josh kept the band together and wrote amazing songs.
It’s the ex that you can never truly be over.
I never understood why the Peppers didn’t try to do it with 5 in the band. Talent wise, Josh could’ve done all the keyboards and backup guitar as he did when they toured during the Stadium Arcadium era.
They got Chris
Josh *DID* play in the background in the By The Way tour.
Man I would've loved to see them as a 5 piece with Josh as guitar/keyboard. But I think this could've been seen as a demotion and they might have thought it would be disrespectful to even suggest this to Josh.
It doesn't help John and Josh haven't had a friendship in a decade :/
It was the Stadium arcadium second leg@@MontyRoyal963
@@silverman169 the more people you have in the band, the more you have to split the money.
It's just a damn shame that none of the Josh era stuff will EVER be played live again. No way John doesn't let his pride get in the way. He won't even play the Dave era music and OHM is a fucking incredible album. I think he's played Aeroplane live, but come on, all the tracks on OHM are gold.
Frusciante never played any of the material from Navarro's era.
John seems more and more like a diva as time goes by.
@@JoaquimBamberg One hot minute is epic.
@@diggdugg2169 Thank you,so glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I mean he's a good guitarist but he's been in and out of the band a good bit but yet they always take him back🤦🏻♀️. I liked One Hot Minute album🤷🏻♀️
I'd feel tiny if I was josh and listening to this
yea, or maybe not too, cause i think he understand. but flea can't help but be honest about what he was feeling in relation to this past era of the peppers.
eventually became something similar to the one hot minute era :/
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Honesty hurts sometimes, but Flea wasn't being cruel. He was trying to be honest.
Yeah…. Flea was just trying to be honest but sometimes being that honest is hurtful. The direction they went with josh was so good, but he’s been putting out fantastic stuff under Pluralone so it’s not like he needed the chili peppers to be good. like anything he’s done solo is better than the most recent rhcp albums imo
That's show business.
John was born to be in RHCP
I love Josh deeply, but I kind of understand what Flea is saying.
John is the real one, the boss, the original. As long as he's alive, he's the one to be on guitar.
And as John said: "I was born to be in that band."
So true!
Not the original. The second one.
You're right ❤@@patrickscreativeshack
Okay, I'm happy John is back too. He was with the band when I first heard them, loved them and was all the songs that got me to love them were made with John. Yet, John needed space so he left and its a good thing . He seems so happy to be up there again and its good to seem him back. But Josh stepped up to help and though he did not write the amazing tracks I know the RHCP for, Did I Let You Know, Dance,Dance,Dance, Dark Necessities, Encore and Sick Love are stellar tracks and I feel insanely sad that I'll never get to hear them played again.
Josh was the real guy for taking ten years to be in a fully formed band that spoke John's language of playing. The moment John left and they took Josh on as their guitar player, he became a Red Hot Chili Pepper and therefore it became his song. What Flea said didn't just sound mean, it was mean. Maybe an unfortunate choice of words, but like slapping someone with an actual bat instead of a fake one kind of unfortunate.
I understand the emotional value to Californication, By The Way and all the other smash hits they made with John deepens the songs when they play it with him but they didn't look at what they had with Josh. I feel it would be nothing but gracious and respectful to Josh and the fans to play the songs they made. Dark Necessities has been played over 400 million times on Spotify and it feels weird to ignore the love for it. I'm not comparing numbers to success or love, but 400 million plays should mean something right?
John is great and I don't want anyone else but Josh was great too and I didn't need him to leave.
"Love & Light" 😂 Bahahaha
Who comes in next when JF inevitably bails again after deciding that he wants to go compose symphonies using only Theremins
Exactly, I’ve been saying that the moment the he rejoined. I like both albums they did with Josh and obviously like the stuff they’ve done with John. I just feel bad for Josh they he was punted.
No way. I thought the same thing but I saw them a few weeks ago and John is absolutely in his prime right now. Go see him if you get a chance.
Lol @ a symphony of Theremins
Right,like dang how many times can you bail and be allowed to come back🤦🏻♀️. Makes me feel bad for any other guitarist they ever get,cause they always boot them the minute John decides he wants to come back.
He is speaking about love to Josh and love to the stuff they made with Josh, in the same time ignoring this stuff at live performances (at least they should play one of their greatest hit of all time Dark Necessities) and giving this offensive phrase “now the real guy playing the real s**t”)))) This is ridiculous)) I miss you Josh my friend you are one of the most beautiful and interesting pages of rhcp’s history
Agree. There was so many greats
I bet the band would play Josh era stuff, but John won’t. He won’t play Navarro era stuff either. That’s a John issue
@@lb2696 i know this. They should insist on playing this stuff. John isn’t the center of the universe, there’s a lot of fans who love the stuff they made with Josh and want to hear it live. There’s at least one song called “Dark Necessities” which has tightly integrated into the culture, it is in top 10 of their most popular songs, and this song is necessary to be played live. I love John but his character is terrible and he is too disrespectful to the fans and Josh. And the rest of the band support him in this proving that there was never any respect and love to Josh (sorry for my english)
Josh is playing live for Pearl Jam and playing lead guitar for Jane’s. He’s playing on Eddie and Iggy’s solo albums and doing his own Pluralone thing. He’s a multi-millionaire cuz of RHCP. He’s doing just fine.
Let's be honest here, Josh rejuvenated an aging band and made them cool again, with fresh material and absolutely lovely pieces (Sick Love, The Getaway, Goodbye Angels) and I feel so bad for him that he wasn't even invited when they had their star on the Walk Of Fame, even though John had only rejoined the band a few weeks beforehand..
You're absolutely right! He brought a fresh and modern energy to the band, those 2 albums he recorded with them will age like fine wine.
For me, The Getaway with Josh is way more interesting than The return... And I would love him to join Ultimate Love with John with 2 guitarrists
Saw The Getaway tour and Josh was awesome. The RHCP pulled a " Micheal Anthony " on Josh.
he's coming back! Josh's work really grew on me.... fuc'in *lived* those songs ❤❤❤
Yeah but if john leaves again ibdontbthink josh will return
Funny how one of the most successful and well known chili peppers songs probably since Cant Stop, is Dark Necessities. Not only a Josh era song, but no Rick Rubin.
Love the new shit, but I do miss Josh immensely
Hmm, is at actually dark necessities. Not a bad song but i feel like your forgetting about all the singles from stadium arcadium. To this day I think stadium arcadium is one of the best double albums every released. Easily top 3 imo, but it still is only my opinion
@@BlankSpace14 the music video for dark necessities has more views on UA-cam than Snow.
I understand what you’re saying, but they were able to make commercially successful hits with Josh
Black summer is the only song that any casual alt rock listener might know, and check out the UA-cam viewership for black summer vs Dark Necessities. DN blows that song out of the water with views
@@VisionX64 I deffinetly agree that black summer doesnt compare to dark necessities. I know youtube views mean a lot but I think tell me baby or even dani California was more in the populous' zygiest than dark necessities. I promise im not trying to argue, just think its an interesting back and forth
@@BlankSpace14 oh you’re good man! I just hate the way they dumped Josh who was creative and loyal, to go back to their ex, for a 3rd time.
I do think John is objectively a better guitar player, and I love UL and ROTDC, but I really enjoyed Josh and some Josh era songs are top tier
@@VisionX64 i always felt like josh was just missing on his solos, I could just be a huge frusciante fan but they didnt compare imo. I did enjoy the albums josh was on though, guess just different strokes for different folks
Josh is great. Saw him last night with Pearl Jam.
With that said, I’ve seen the Peppers with both John and Josh. John plays from the heart. It was the best show I’ve ever seen. It was the John Frusciante show. I’ve seen hundreds of show and his was the best playing I’ve ever seen. No contest.
I agree that it sucks to have parted ways with Josh but after seeing them with John, it’s the right move. Anyone saying anything different hasn’t seen John play.
The Getaway was dope tho can’t lie.
There’s only 4 people that make the RHCP (after Hillel’s death)- Anthony.Flea.John. Chad.
It's incredibly disappointing that because of John childish disposition fans of the band will never again hear in concert a song from the Josh era. I'm disappointed in the whole band actually because the fans are fans of the Red Hot Chili Peppers and that means all their albums not just the ones cry baby John plays on. John is not the only good guitar player in RHCP Josh is pretty good too and I want to listen in concert the songs from Josh era too. What a stab in the back they gave Josh because of a guy who leaves the band whenever he pleases and comes back when he feels like coming back. Without Josh the RHCP would've been dead after a john left, let's see how long until baby John says he wants to leave again.
Absolutely agree. Like good grief how many times does he get to bail and come back. It's not fair to any other guitarist who has ever played for them.
Great musician, like Frusciante! Underrated, I think.
Nooooo ! Frusciante es unico❤
Oh, yes. both are the great guitarplayers, but they're not to comparison
Slovac was the architect and the original, without him John would have been playing in basements..in the end John is a very negative type, unwilling to play with the band material that was made without him
Josh had has time that's that. And good for him. How many people can say that Josh can.
How many people can say that Josh can what?
@@jcout25 how many people can say that they play with the RHCP. Just can say he has. That's what i mean
Fired like a roadie.
He shouldn’t have called it cover, and him the real guy
The whole JF return was celebrated and sold as if Josh era was some kind of nightmare. And add this to the insult. The band has not given Josh his due. He kept them relevant for a decade when John was chilling and making stuff no one listened to.
Josh played great and helped the team win. Props to him. But when the star of the team is ready to come back in the game the sub goes and sits down and nobody needs to feel bad for him.
Yikes.. that stings
really love how flea talk. he deffenetly respect josh :)
Josh saved the Peppers, he deserves more credit than he gets. I understand Flea here, but I believe it was a poor choice of words. If John decided to leave the band again in a few years, I am most definitely sure they would resort to Josh again.
And I hope Josh says no.
Fleas says it all. He and probably Anthony couldn’t keep up with the changes Josh brought. They need their John and Rick back in the picture.
It’s a Chili Peppers issue. Now Josh found a group that is happy to use his talents in PJ.
Dark Necessities has 465 million views on YT whereas Black Summer has 48. I know that metric isn’t everything but Josh had impact. Dark was like an anthem for people through Covid. It just caught that vibe man.
I understand that many are scared of John leaving but here is what i think. They will all retire together and Josh is so young he needed to move on somewhere more permanent and where he can utilize himself more and grow as a person. The sad truth is he was a fan who lived his dream and John has had such a wild ride and doesn't do it for anything but the fans and his band. This is about the fans and the originality of the band. ❤
Lmao!! With those twp lastest album? And he doesn't do it fpr the money? Be for real.😂
I overall think that the love and “rooting-for-the-underdog” appreciation that Josh has had in recent years since his firing is deserved but misplaced. Josh is an amazing musician, still younger than them, who has much more to give as a solo artist and freelancer than being bound to play mostly John-era songs live with the RHCP for the rest of their career (their John albums were the bulk of their set lists during Josh’s tenure). While I’m sure it was more comfortable financially to be in the most popular rock band of the 90’s and 2000’s (unless one is to count Maroon 5 and Coldplay as rock) the “achievement” is far more Johns than it is Josh’s (not that either are the kind of artist who cares about that). Pluralone’s albums have been better than the material he released with RHCP and better than UL and TROTDC.
Why not accept that Josh’s best solo music is still ahead of him while Flea, Chad and Anthony’s is likely not? Why not allow them to reunite with John in peace? Subsequent tours with Josh wouldn’ve likely only included a couple songs from I’m With You and The Getaway anyway as most people are there to hear the John songs. We’re not really missing out on as much as it’s being made out to be.
Flea you are such a Legendary bass player 🍻✌🏻😎
I thought "The Getaway" was a really interesting artistic step forward for RHCP. Josh was taking their sound into unknown territory. Definitely not taking the same drastic left turns as Radiohead but sorta in the same vein. That being said, the last 2 Frusciante albums were pretty so-so. They're taking steps backwards in hopes to catch the magic of the previous Frusciante eras. To me, it's closed chapter. It was a good story. Let it be. Think it's pretty evident that Frusciante isn't as passionate about playing guitar as he was in the past.
That was pretty cruel of Flea, even though he’s trying to be honest. Fuck that, they did Josh so dirty. I’m glad he’s making the music that he wants to make now with his Pluralone project ❤
The two albums with Josh were better than the two since John has come back.
yes
Why they couldn't keep Josh for 2nd guitar?
I understand what flea is trying to say here... and he's absolutely right
The jason newsted of the rhcp
I was here the first hour
Cada vez que me topo con este titular me pongo mala mala. 💔💔💔
Flea comes across as a right knob here. Doesn't sound like he 's truly grateful for Klinghoffer, or appreciates his work at all
Qué dijo? Alguien me traduce? Por favor
En síntesis, que Flea le pidió a John volver y él, al parecer, tenía ese mismo deseo. También que tocar con Josh canciones de JF era como hacer covers (esto me puso grave). Que Josh es un gran músico y etc pero que no había una conexión profunda; que no tenían la misma manera de "interpretar" la música. No recuerdo si se me queda algo. El ego de JF es muy grande para que el bueno de Josh esté con ellos (eso lo digo yo).
It doesn't make sense to me that the 2 new albums with john suck
I’m all for being back with your friends and such but man the fact they just disregard those 10 years with Josh. John should be fucking grateful for Josh carrying his band when he wanted his own time.
He made the choice to leave and the band carried on and made some really cool shit with Josh. Then he comes back and is like yeah anything that was done when I wasn’t here doesn’t matter anymore.
They took a direction which was really interesting and different with Josh it’s such a shame man.
I love the peppers but they really did fuck Josh over.
Majority rules.
Flea a dirty rat, did josh dirty
经常看到人提起Josh Klinghoffer都会把他和Dark Necessities划等号，似乎他只有这首作品拿得出手。Dark Necessities的吉他使这首歌像他们的风格，但没有很特别你知道吗，仅仅是我的看法。
God I love Flea such an awesome musician and person ❤
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#JohnFrusciante #Flea #AnthonyKiedis #ChadSmith #JoshKlinghoffer #RedHotChiliPeppers
This probably wouldn't have worked out if it had happened to another band w/ different people.... 🌶 🌶 🌶
Real guy?? What about Hillel? John is great but massively overrated by fans. It’s that tortured musician image that sells and even the members have bought it. IWY and Getaway were much progressive and better than the new albums. I wouldn’t comment but the whole band seem to brush away the Josh era like it never existed and have celebrated John’s return as if Josh era was some kind of nightmare.
This sounds like AI lmao.
Money
I worship RHCP. But they did Josh dirty. Josh did enough to stay in the band...wouldve been awesome seeing 2 guitarists in RHCP.
Josh Klinghoffer was great but he just wasn't John Frusciante. It has the same resemblence for Metallica fans to when Jason Newsted replaced Cliff Burton. He was great, probably the driving force in the band in those years but he just stepped in to a guys shoes who never could be filled.
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Wow, way to bury Josh…
I agree that the music is best with John but they did him dirty..
I think RHCP were holding Klinghoffer back from his true potential. Pluralone is way more versatile and is pure art.
Josh is now Smug.
Anthony Kiedis THE BEST ❤❤❤❤❤👑💚💛💙🤍💎✨🍀
People don't know about John's solo career. It's incredibly rich and denser, more sentimental, richer than the band. Real descriptions of his recovery period. Eventually he even made electronic music. It's great for John to return, but never fire Josh, he was so incredible. I didn't like it one bit. Foo Fighters keeps 3 guitars out of pure gratitude. Josh deserved much, MUCH more!
And another: the failure of Unlimited Love against the beautiful songs that Im With You gave us with falsettos from John's gods, are very contradictory facts
They just never give Hillel enough credit for what he created. Don't even play his songs anymore besides Me and My Friends.
Josh is probably the most greatful to Hillel and felt as if a fan joined RHCP, and played for the fans. He teased and played wayyyy more Hillel era stuff than Frusciante ever did during his second stint. Behind the sun, American ghost dance, police helicopter. He even managed to play Nevermind live. He to played Aeroplane, and teased OHM stuff like My Friends. It sucks that now all that’s gone and what we are left with is a John worship cult.
so, basically, Josh took them out of their comfort zone... and they don't like it.
Also the comfort in the playing overall wasn't there. John and flea have that thing if you're musician you'll know. As kso John is leques better than josh and it shows in unlimited love and Return of the dream canteen.
@@bluewhye8832 The Getaway was a straight up better album than what we had. Don't get me wrong John live is miles better but he doesn't have that magic in the studio anymore. I mean he doesn't sound inspired at all
@@InFiRe59I completely disagree but your opinion is yours so cool. The getaway is good but unlimited love and rotdc are better to me.
The only analogy I can do here to express my feelings about thr Josh/John is super sexual explicitly... But I know exactly what flea is talking about and even seeing how it seems wrong for one side of the history i can see how it is the right thing to do also..
I will say it for you... JF is the ex, JK is the new sentimental partner but he's not as hot as the first one, so it's time to get him back. Am I right?
Well, that was probably not the best decision they made. Josh brought some freshness to the band, whereas Frusciante's heart doesn't seem to be in guitar playing anymore, and this is evident in their newest material, which is, at best, mediocre.
😆bye
Josh undeniably helped keep the dream alive, and created some mighty Chili's classics, such as 'Monarchy of Roses', 'Dark Necessities', 'Look Around', 'Factory of Faith', etc.
But.. The awesome foursome, shine for me at the ultra level of world defining new uber groove, when John is the full right angle oft he perfect cosmic square.
The RHCP will always be my favourite band, as far as I know after 48 years of living.
I think a lot of popular artists suck... but I don't think the Chili's do.
Outstanding, upbeat, seriously exciting, rocktastic uber grooves, from God's of new wave thinking.
Thank you gentlemen.
T'would be an honour to be buried beside any of you.
Josh should have had one answer: thank you for 10 years
John est le plus grand guitariste de tout les temps, c est un monstre de génie ce mec , je l aime . Josh sera toujours loin derrière 💋🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵
Really ?! The official rhcp yourube chanel says it like that ? Josh got fired ? LoL ungrateful monks
John is flake, he will quit again in a couple of years, that's all he does is quit,
all im gunna say is f u cause josh was the real deal. oh well. why get frusciante to do even worse? josh done good. thats all. love rhcp, but johns problems need to be left behind, let go, josh should have been allowed to shine, end of. do a seperate band, with josh and promote it if you have to, its shit how it ended
another successful virtue signaling for flea
Josh played with the Chili Peppers. John *IS a Chili Pepper. Just facts. No disrespect.
Josh is cool. But the RHCP r a noticeably better band with John’s song writing.
The Getaway is still miles better and more consistent as an album than the last two.
Love Josh but John is the chairman Guitarist for RHCP
Josh is good, but he's not good enough for a band like the Chili Peppers. It's that simple.
He's good enough, but it's John Frusciante, the guy who was there when they wrote BSSM or Cali.
I was keen to see what else Josh had created with the chilli peppers. Also the two latest albums were honestly hot garbage with maybe 1 good song per album. Yes I agree John created the hits in the past but definitely not the case recently.
Que b-a-s-u-ra que es flea. Esto demuestra lo que es como persona. Me suena demasiado falso, doble cara. Me gustan los red hot... Pero como hicieron las cosas con Josh, me parece que ahí le erraron bastante. Decir que las canciones viejas que hacían con Josh eran una portada es de mal agradecido. Gracias a él en mayor o menor medida la banda siguió y facturaron plata de lo lindo. Que ese era el fin. Se va a hacer el espiritual ahora? Jaja! Siempre me pareció un fo-rr-o flea y hoy lo confirmo.