Rabea Massaad, please help. gettin crazy. i use an an 8 Plug Harley Benton Power plant which Works realy fine with all my boss and mxr bass pedals. but when i connect any mooer pedal it starts gettin noisy. why? can you give an advice please. Thank you.
Karim Ayadi What Mooer pedal is it? The larger HB power plant is not fully isolated (just filtered, the HB power plant junior has superior isolation). You can get individual magnetic isolation adaptors from Diego, but they do limit the ampage supplied, which may not be enough for a power hungry digital Mooer! Hope this helped!
I own a modded vintage Roger Mayer Classic Fuzz which had an indicator LED and AC input added to it. So far I use a daisy chain from a One Spot power supply for all my other pedals, which actually works well, and a separate (cheaper) one with a polarity reverse adapter for the fuzz. The fuzz is pretty noisy and I don't know if it's the vintage pedal itself, the added AC input jack or the cheap power supply. But with a power block like these, can I use a regular output and just keep using the adapter? because it didn't work in my daisy chain, it reverse the whole chain... Thanks and love your videos and the music, keep it coming! \m/
Not really it's important to empathise the use of good quality and more importantly safe power supplies. A quick Google search will show you the reality of cheep and dangerous power supplies.
The 9v daisy chain method works for me and I run a tuner, wah, overdrive, distortion, eq, 2 delays, tremolo, and ditto looper. It doesn't get noisy, it's actually really quiet.
Yeh I use a 6 way daisy chain too, it's ok for my marshall pedals, bluesbreaker 2, edward the compressor, regenerator....and my ditto, ehx #1 echo. But it doesn't quite have the power to run a ehx B9 organ pedal at the same time as 4 or 5 other pedals without the B9 being noisy, so I could do with a cheap alternative to the voodoo labs cos I can't afford £100+ for a power supply nor would I spend that even if I had the money, so I might have a look at the harley benton.
What I'm also trying to say is that according to your situation/pedals your are running, you might not need an expensive PSU. Try your rig with an inexpensive 9v/Dixie chain method first and maybe you might save yourself enough money to buy another effect pedal lol
I have a Stagg 9v brick with daisy chain (bought from Andertons) and I haven't noticed excess noise. Guess it depends on the pedals, amp and electrics where you are.
Beyrin Hernandez I've used a boss PSA adapter and daisy chain for years with no complaints. Tuner, compressor, overdrive, fuzz, chorus, phaser, noise gate and wah on one supply! If I use my Dunlop power supply (similar rating) I have mild noise problems. I suppose it makes a difference which one you use.
I've been using four cheapo (but actually very good)power supplies on my pedalboard for a while now, one of which daisychains 5 pedals. I've found that although there is a little noise, it's not a major problem. In fact, the pedals themselves make more noise even when on their own power supply, and the daisy chain has actually worked better than a power supply on its own.
Definitely not sponsored by vodoo lab, the best power supply company in the world, provinding the quietest power supplies for pedalboards all over the world. (Sorry for bad english)
Tips for anyone who chooses to daisy chain: look for ground lifted daisy chains a try to keep them to 3 pedals per chain. They're sold by Voodoo Lab, Strymon, and most manufacturers of high quality power supplies. There needs to be one pedal at the front of the chain connected to its own power source for theses to work. The first plug goes into the second pedal, the second plug into the 3rd, etc. If you have a PS with the capacity, you can run multiple separate chains off their own outlets. I've done this with a compressor, EQ and boost at the front, a few drives chained later in the signal path, with a gap of digital pedals, an optical vibe and an 18v drive on isolated power between them. Ideally if you did need an easy way to expand your PS capacity, output splitters only give you one extra output each but they are the best option. Voodoo Lab makes one that has a ground lifted side for use with two directly connected pedals. The lack of ground on one side requires a cable *and nothing else* between the pedals to create a complete circuit that powers the connected devices. I currently power 16 compact pedals, a multi effects for modulation and another for reverb and an HX Stomp of a large PS plus a smaller on totaling 15 outputs. It requires 4 output splitters and and a current doubler for the Stomp which takes 2 outputs to power.
I own both the CS7 and 12 and can power Strymon (mobius, timeline), Eventide H9, Roger Linn III, Line 6 M5, Roland Gr30, Zoom G3 &G3n, and many more like Boss, Disaster Area Designs, MusicomLab EFX ii, Digitech Jam Man Soloist XT, AMT SS-20, Egnater Goldsmith, Xotic Effects, DOD, Mooer, EHX, MXR, and the list goes on. I owned the digital from Voodoo Lab but my setup needed additional ma which the digital could not meet. You can't go wrong with the Truetone 1SPOT PRO CS7 and CS12.
A friend of mine insisted me to buy a good power supply instead of a noise gate. Now I know the reason why my chain turned so noisy, using a chinese ac adapter with multiple pedal input adapters. Thanks Rabea!!! Pretty informative. GREETINGS from Chile !!
Hey Rabea. Good video. I bought an ISO5, mainly because they advertised isolated power channels and had an 18v output. I use EMG actives in some guitars and instead of using batteries inside the guitar, I use an EMG ES-918 18v power pack, which stands in between the guitar and the FX/amp in signal chain. EMG do not recommend any external powering of this unit but do have a power socket built into the power pack strangely enough. Using their ES-918, EMG recommend only using batteries inside the pack. In my small home studio environment I use the ISO5 to power the EMG power pack to the active guitars. I also power the ISO5 through a Furman M-10x E which helps clean up the power supply at the start. While EMG speculate I would get interference using external powering to their power pack unit, the ISO5 is good enough to provide a clean power supply and keep the noise out. Believe it or not. BTW, my home circuitry is not top quality, and I do get noise in some areas of my home.... So yes, based upon my own experience, Voodoo Labs provide a good product.
Dude congrats on jamming with Gilbert! It was the most amazing thing to see and witness how far you've come as a player and that performance cemented the fact that you are an absolute force in the guitar world. I have never seen someone jam that well with him in my life and you are easily becoming one of the most talented players in the universe. Much respect bro!!! \m/
7:25 So what's the difference between those two cables? The tip & barrel are swapped around? The Boss "standard" (and many other pedals) is barrel positive, while everywhere else (in the electronics world), it's barrel negative.
Cioks power supplies are damn good, I'm running a board with 15 pedals (incl. 2 Strymons) plus a Boss ES-8, 3 MIDI auxiliary loopers and a MIDI splitter, all powered by 3 Cioks units and I only get serious noise if I run the high gain channel on my amp with my Tube Screamer and my Whammy DT together, and I think that's mostly because the Whammy is situated directly on top of the highest output PSU, the Cioks DC-10, TS off: no more problem. (I should mention I use a noise suppressor when using the high gain channel on my amp, but with it off it's really not much noisier than using the amp by itself, no more than you'd expect, less than I expected when I built the thing.)
i also have 15 pedals on my board (plus tuner, no strymons though) and use one cioks dc-10 to power them. how? i daisy chain most of the drive pedals from two of the high mA outputs with those split flex cables. zero noise issues ever. but my board is also a solid metal tool drawer so the psu and most its cables are semi-isolated underneath. that being said, anyone can be unlucky and have noise /hum in their rig, can be so many things. but a good power supply def helps. just bought a voodoo lab 4x4 for a friend which i look forward to testing out before i hand it over.
I use the Gig Rig generator and distributors. The problem with Voodoo Labs power supplies (or any power supplies apart from Gig Rig stuff) for me, is that you can only power a certain amount of pedals with each unit. With the Gig Rig, you can draw up to 5 amps of isolated current, any volt or polarity using their distributors, and you'll never run out of outputs.
I have a Boss ME50 (multi effects) , and MXR 90 ,a DOD D.D. & Tremonti Wah All use the typical 9v Power supply like the one you mentioned at 8:43 ...... All 4 are plugged into a 12.00 Walmart Multi Power strip. Depending on where we play I will get Hiss noise. Is the power strip that all 4 of my Adaptors are plugged into a bad idea? Maybe I should get a better Power strip. Just havent bothered because it seems to work fine,minus the occasional hissy loudness when were not playing.
I've been rocking the Pedaltrain Volto for my needs. I am only running analog pedals from it and usually no more than 5 pedals. It lasts for about 5 hours with my pedal board and I don't have to add an extension cord to trip over on stage. It makes set up so much easier, HOWEVER, you just have to make sure its fully charged before the gig.
I've never had any issued with it but I run a very basic pedal setup, only a tuner, overdrive, noise gate and a delay. If I was running something more complicated I'd definitely upgrade to a voodoo labs or T Rex power supply or something along those lines
I thought you would have mentioned daisy chains when using an isolated power supply or which outputs to use for pedals that have higher mA needs. -or if it’s ok to daisy chain wnen you have the mA to spare. These are things I wonder about this topic. Is it never ok to daisy chain?
Wondering why pedals will have mA marked on the pedal such as 9v 300mA when the pedal only draws 100mA? Is that max load or something? Or the recommended power supply to be used?
4:58 I thought voodoo labs are noiseless ? Do you recommend this Rabea? I'm looking to buy one of the ISO 5 because I thought they are noiseless. But now that I see this I'm confused ???$^%
I have an older “PEDALPOWER2”, and I still don’t know how to use it properly. On the front are 8, “9volt regulated DC outputs; 4 are ACA, 2 are L6, and two are SAG(with small level knobs). On the bottom of the box are 8 little, “NORMAL” switches. Q. Can I run a Digitech WHAMMY (9VAC ~50/60 Hz, 1.3 power) off of this box? Also, what is L6?, and what are the underside switches for? Any helpful clues would be greatly appreciated.
I got a voodoo power supply but I will be returning it. It didn't reduce the hum at all.. There is an initial hum from the humbuckers on my guitar and the compressor and distortion blow it to a crazy level. Not sure what I can do to fix it..
So is it ok to daisy chain FROM a power supply, assuming there's sufficient current per outlet? No single power supply offers enough 9v outlets for my pedalboard.
Hi - Help ! I’m using 5 pedals for Bass : Chromatic Tuner by Boss , and 4 Ampeg pedals ( Compressor , Preamp , Overdrive , Chorus ). Which power supply would you recommend?? And I’m assuming the Daisy chain will plug right into the 9 volt circuit ???
My pedals hum using a 9v output with multiple daisy chains. I don't use any floorboards but I want to use a compressor and distortion together without hum, and add a pitch shifter with half a dozen other pedals on at the same time. what must I do as far as powering them correctly? A Voodoo AC seems best but how many daisy chains can you use with it? I have 10 pedals and want 20.
Looking at building a small pedalboard, probably no more than 5 pedals and as a result I've had my eye on the T. rex fuel tank jr. The most similar one here seems to be the one with the 400mah 9/12 volt and 18 volt ports. Obviously these are designed for use with larger pedals, but would there be any issues/dangers of using those ports with regular boss sized pedals? Otherwise I'll probably stick to the T. rex jr as I saw the voodoo labs one only had 3 regular 9volt ports.
I bought a daisy chain to power my 2 pedals literally the only thing that happened was the lights came on.I had whistling out of my distortion pedal with no response from my amp when I use the guitar. My noise gate just straight up didn’t work and stopped my amp from making any noise at all.What do I do
What if I’m using Stryman and boss and line6? Would I need to have different power blocks on one board? Isn’t there some universal power block which can accommodate most of the pedals? Also if power block has just four 9v outputs, does it mean I can only connect 4 pedals? Thanks
Hi, Is it ok to use one proper power board and to it add, connect a power brick that will power up three guitar pedals in total? I'm using Katana 50 amp and plan to get something like Boss noise suppressor, Revv G3, and a Korg tuner. Thanks 😁
Silly question - I bought 2 v labs cables that have a barrel end and a 9v battery socket on the other end. To power up pedals that do not have a battery compartment etc. Both cables will not power up my boss st-2 & my zvex fuzz factory using brand new battery. No battery inside the pedal. What do u think. I will take them to a tech. It's just silly. :-)
Hi all, I just stumbled in this video and found it super-useful, but I cannot find a solution that lets me power my EHX DMM and mistress, an 18v pedal and other regular 9v, any suggestion?
I am currently building a floorboard of about 10 to 12 pedals. The pedals that I will put on it are Hall of fame reverb 2 Flashback 2 delay EHX memory toy EXH Neo clone EXH Stereo Pulsar Behringer vintage phase shifter Dunlop wah Tc electronic ditto looper Tc electronic corona chorus EXH nano grail reverb BOSS DS1 Distortion JOYO vintage overdrive Will the Voodoo Lab Mondo be good for powering all of those pedals? I think the one that requires the most power is the wah pedal
On my pedal board I just have a Distortion, Wah, Phase Shifter, and a Boss rc-30 loop station but the moment I plug the loop station into my rig I get an insane amount of noise and I don't know why???
I have a behringer pb1000 and that came with a dc power plug that has 1700ma's and I don't have as bad as a problem as the strymon pedal supply in the video, but that is probably because is has plenty of power, therefor there is more than enough to power my pedals, even when I had 12 or 13 pedals for my royal blood set up being powered I didn't get noise as bad as that including beeping and what not. I haven't had any problems with the board and I even brought a palmer power conditioner that I sometimes use just to be on the safe side and to make sure that their is no problems power wise. I also took out the foam pads that were screwed in and put velcro in it instead in order to utilise the space as best as possible.
I bought a voodoo labs pedal power plus in the US but I forgot about the voltage difference from US to EU, currently im using a transformer for that purpose (without ground) is there a way to get as close to zero noise with this rig or buying a few things
Question: I have a Boss ME80. Boss sells a specific power adapter to power it for about $20. Which is what I am using. Is there any reason to consider other power supplies such as these? Note: I only use the ME 80 direct to amp and guitar.
Interesting was just about to add some more pedals, cause my delay crapped out. I made my own pedal board I never got much noise keeping supply underneath the diamond plate seems to suppress noise .Also at home I can plug my amp into a different circuit of power which helps with some feedback issues txs
I don’t get anything like that daisy chaining in bypass…completely clean. Issue is when some are engaged and not playing, the noise floor is loud! On my amp I have an attenuator built in. If I dial by -9db and turn up it seems to suppress it. Even running things like an Angry Charlie into a Furman on its own 18v I get huge ground noise when on . For these issues…I wonder if I should be looking at a gate pedal Vs say a ISO power supply.
Any suggestions how to deal with noisy pedals like the bb preamp? It´s qiite loud as you increase the volume. Is there an alternative to a noise gate with loop like the tc sentry ?
Hi Rabea, great video demo regarding pedals etc. What l noticed is your 2 Peavey 5150 heads, l remember selling mine to the captain for you many years ago. Cool to see this in the background 🙏🎶🎸🎸 Keep rocking great music too my friend 👌👌
I always used an BOSS NS-2. If you run the loop correctly and adjust the threshold, completely noiseless until your guitar sends a signal. It was great for my Mic'd up Blues Jr. at festivals. Just throwing out another cost effective option.
I power all of my pedals (tuner, 2 od’s, comp, dd7, rv500, & a line 6 wireless receiver) with the standard 9v 2000mA adaptor on my Skv ps8 board. I don’t get any extraneous noise. Would you still recommend upgrading power supplies?
Rabea, due to the limited number of outputs from these isolated power supplies, most of us still end up daisy chaining several pedals together. Even with your Mondo, don't you have to share some power outputs from it? I try to give the gain pedals their own power source and only daisy chain non-gain pedals (time, modulation, etc. pedals). Feedback, please. Thanks!
Before you completely write them off, batteries are the cleanest source of power available for audio and will never cause noise. You can also use rechargeable Li-Ion batteries for this purpose.
Batteries are "quietly" destroying the Earth. RnR is killing the birds. Tattoos and Afros are an abomination. Other than that I really liked this excellent 'info-mercial'. AC is of course Alternating Current as opposed to DC/Direct Current/battery current. If you use both AC & DC, Back-in-Black will sound proper.
Martin Krauser yeah but by the time you've replaced a bunch of them you could've just bought a voodoo pedal power. Especially if you play alot. With a pedal power I can leave all my pedals hooked up and not have to worry about battery drain if my band takes a week or two off and I don't get back to my board for a bit. It has its advantages. To me it's worth the price tag.
I've used Diago digital power supplies daisy chained to 7 or 8 pedals and never got hum or hiss. As long as you are not using a five dollar supply I suspect hum and hiss is more likely to come from the mains electricity or the combination of pedals....
On the Pedal Power 2 Plus, with the sagged outputs, would they work the same way as the rest of the outputs if you didn't want to use the sag feature? I'm thinking of upgrading to one of these from a 5 way daisy chain, and this one having 8 outputs would be good for me to eventually get and power more pedals
Rabea Massad.. I've been curious about using rechargable portable power supplies. Have you tried those? They are essentially the same thing as portable cordless cell phone chargers. I don't understand why I see very few of them for sale.
Daisy chains can be straightened up sometimes if you play with order. Initially, you might just plug the first pedal socket into the first pedal, the second into the second, etc. But I've found if you play around with the order, then what's daisying into what can become much friendlier with each other and solve issues. I use a daisy chain and don't get power noise problems because of the method I just described.
Great overview of their bricks. I have two of the PP2+ and couldn't be happier. I did have to buy a couple voltage doubler cables for my Boss DD-500 and MXR 10-Band EQ and one current doubler cable for my G2. I still have an open port. Cheers
I've been using an EBS 9 volt powersupply with a daisy chain for years and it has worked fine all this time. No excessive noise, certainly nothing like you had in the video.
I have a digital reverb (boss RV-5), the rest are analog as far as I know. I use them in front and through the loop depending on what I need, both are just fine. Maybe the EBS is just good, or maybe I'm going a bit deaf ;)
I use a 9v wall adapter with a daisy chain. Its completely silent. Supports all my pedals and does Ac/DC current and supplies upto 1750mah. Very happy with it.
I still have my original Voodoo Lads Pedal Power. Not the PP2 the predecessor to that and it has been on the board for almost 20 years no problems. I added a second one later. I love them
18V-feeds aren't just for bigger pedals or boards. - You have the few pedals that allow more headroom or whatever, just like for example you'd hook up two 9V-batteries to active pickups.
Michael Angelo H. That doesnt always work though. Example being AHB1 Actives. No need and no benefit gained on headroom with a 18v mod due to the way they are made to fulfill the full headroom.
I have recently gotten into guitar pedals but have only a few as in 3 right now. I do not intend to use anymore I merely have an overdrive compressor and clean boost. I live in an apartment with dirty power so I bought a Furman power conditioner and it helps but I'd imagine with pedals the noise will be worse. Which of these products might help with all of this? I am on a budget but I also dont have enough pedals to justify making a pedal board. In short could I just plug one of these into my power conditioner and then does it come with the patch cables to connect your pedals right out of the box?
I took your advice and got a Pedal Power 2 from a guitar show a couple months back. Had I not saw this, I might have gotten a cheap none isolated jobbie instead. This thing is brilliant. I still have yet to try the sag power for my fuzz. lol
i used to use 3 daisy chains hooked together off of one 9V power adaptor powering 9 pedals, and honestly it wasnt bad at all, the only thing that suffered was my fuzz. Everyone said "dont use that it sucks" and having a proper power supply now is good, but it wasnt any where near as bad as everyone thought it would be.
I have a pedalboard with 12 9v pedals on there. All powered by a 1spot and daisy chained to all the pedals. It does do the job but with all the daisy chains underneath it can get a bit noisy. Im looking for a proper power supply but most even the voodoo labs supplies have either not enough 9v slots or different voltage ones that Im not gonna use. Anyone recommend a power supply that can do the job.
Great video mate I wish you were around when I started playing!! There was no internet or UA-cam we are very lucky To have such accurate information at our fingertips!
I've used One Spot power adapters with no added noise. I don't run anything like a POD so I can't say how well that would work with more power intensive pedals. However I run pedals from line6, boss, electro harmonix and so on and it works beautifully. So if you're looking for power in the $30 price range then I'd recommend that. They've been great for me. I'd like to see a shootout between one spot and voodoo to see if there is a audible difference in noise level. 👍
I have a hd500x and also 3 dc regular pedals, do I have to buy the pedal power AC for the Line 6 and the ISO 5 for the others or can I use Just ISO 5 for both?
wondering why they stop production, hope they make new one like 500mAh - 1000mAh, now we have the VitoosDC8 / Vitoos iso 8 that can power an HXStomp or the Caline P1 PSU
Wow! I'm currently daisy chaining a 1 spot to run 9 pedals. I never use more than 4 pedals at a time. I've been wondering why I'm getting some noise, although not nearly as bad as in your video, through my ultra-clean Carol-Ann Triptik amp and now I know. Time to go shopping. Thanks Bea.
Just to correct myself in this video - the RED cable is for reverse polarity and NOT higher voltage! My bad :)
Rabea Massaad, please help. gettin crazy. i use an an 8 Plug Harley Benton Power plant which Works realy fine with all my boss and mxr bass pedals. but when i connect any mooer pedal it starts gettin noisy. why? can you give an advice please. Thank you.
Karim Ayadi What Mooer pedal is it? The larger HB power plant is not fully isolated (just filtered, the HB power plant junior has superior isolation). You can get individual magnetic isolation adaptors from Diego, but they do limit the ampage supplied, which may not be enough for a power hungry digital Mooer! Hope this helped!
I own a modded vintage Roger Mayer Classic Fuzz which had an indicator LED and AC input added to it. So far I use a daisy chain from a One Spot power supply for all my other pedals, which actually works well, and a separate (cheaper) one with a polarity reverse adapter for the fuzz. The fuzz is pretty noisy and I don't know if it's the vintage pedal itself, the added AC input jack or the cheap power supply. But with a power block like these, can I use a regular output and just keep using the adapter? because it didn't work in my daisy chain, it reverse the whole chain...
Thanks and love your videos and the music, keep it coming! \m/
good thing the Strymon has reverse-polarity protection...or else you would have fried the pedal with the black-red cable :P
I cant believe you’ve done this
This is a good old-fashioned infomercial. It just happens to be on UA-cam.
+Ameer Saban Hahahah pretty much. But in fairness it's always worth trying to be informative too!
Bea, I have huge respect for you. Anyone would jump at the opportunity you have to do this. Keep doing what you do man, I ain't mad atcha ;)
Not really it's important to empathise the use of good quality and more importantly safe power supplies.
A quick Google search will show you the reality of cheep and dangerous power supplies.
I saw this and thought it would be an April Fools joke with you just throwing noisy pedals in a garbage can.
You got April fooled by thinking that you're gonna get april fooled
The 9v daisy chain method works for me and I run a tuner, wah, overdrive, distortion, eq, 2 delays, tremolo, and ditto looper. It doesn't get noisy, it's actually really quiet.
Yeah, the fact is companies will try and sell you things you don't need. If daisy chains work for you, use them.
Yeh I use a 6 way daisy chain too, it's ok for my marshall pedals, bluesbreaker 2, edward the compressor, regenerator....and my ditto, ehx #1 echo. But it doesn't quite have the power to run a ehx B9 organ pedal at the same time as 4 or 5 other pedals without the B9 being noisy, so I could do with a cheap alternative to the voodoo labs cos I can't afford £100+ for a power supply nor would I spend that even if I had the money, so I might have a look at the harley benton.
What I'm also trying to say is that according to your situation/pedals your are running, you might not need an expensive PSU. Try your rig with an inexpensive 9v/Dixie chain method first and maybe you might save yourself enough money to buy another effect pedal lol
I have a Stagg 9v brick with daisy chain (bought from Andertons) and I haven't noticed excess noise. Guess it depends on the pedals, amp and electrics where you are.
Beyrin Hernandez I've used a boss PSA adapter and daisy chain for years with no complaints. Tuner, compressor, overdrive, fuzz, chorus, phaser, noise gate and wah on one supply! If I use my Dunlop power supply (similar rating) I have mild noise problems. I suppose it makes a difference which one you use.
I have 2 pedalboards daisy chained and have no hiss.
The cables, the way the guitar is setup, the current from the wall.
So many factors.
How can anyone in their right mind dislike a video of Rabea's?
ps rhetorical question
Easily...if he is adevertising stuff WITHOUT actual playing them -_-
I've had the VooDoo Labs MONDO for years and it's the best Power Supply I've owned. Awesome, powerful, reliable... VooDoo Labs rock! Cheers mate!
I've been using four cheapo (but actually very good)power supplies on my pedalboard for a while now, one of which daisychains 5 pedals.
I've found that although there is a little noise, it's not a major problem. In fact, the pedals themselves make more noise even when on their own power supply, and the daisy chain has actually worked better than a power supply on its own.
Definitely not sponsored by vodoo lab, the best power supply company in the world, provinding the quietest power supplies for pedalboards all over the world.
(Sorry for bad english)
Tips for anyone who chooses to daisy chain: look for ground lifted daisy chains a try to keep them to 3 pedals per chain. They're sold by Voodoo Lab, Strymon, and most manufacturers of high quality power supplies. There needs to be one pedal at the front of the chain connected to its own power source for theses to work. The first plug goes into the second pedal, the second plug into the 3rd, etc. If you have a PS with the capacity, you can run multiple separate chains off their own outlets. I've done this with a compressor, EQ and boost at the front, a few drives chained later in the signal path, with a gap of digital pedals, an optical vibe and an 18v drive on isolated power between them. Ideally if you did need an easy way to expand your PS capacity, output splitters only give you one extra output each but they are the best option. Voodoo Lab makes one that has a ground lifted side for use with two directly connected pedals. The lack of ground on one side requires a cable *and nothing else* between the pedals to create a complete circuit that powers the connected devices. I currently power 16 compact pedals, a multi effects for modulation and another for reverb and an HX Stomp of a large PS plus a smaller on totaling 15 outputs. It requires 4 output splitters and and a current doubler for the Stomp which takes 2 outputs to power.
I highly recommend the Truetone 1SPOT PRO CS7 and CS12. Still a bit pricey but mine have worked great, no noise, lots of options/features, etc.
patrick.cs I agree! I recently bought CS7, it's amazing!
the 1spot pro is actually better too
it provides a lot more current then the standard voodoo lab and I think it's cheaper.
It is cheaper and it provides outputs of 500 mA
The CS 12 was the most versatile supply I could find and it was affordable.
I own both the CS7 and 12 and can power Strymon (mobius, timeline), Eventide H9, Roger Linn III, Line 6 M5, Roland Gr30, Zoom G3 &G3n, and many more like Boss, Disaster Area Designs, MusicomLab EFX ii, Digitech Jam Man Soloist XT, AMT SS-20, Egnater Goldsmith, Xotic Effects, DOD, Mooer, EHX, MXR, and the list goes on. I owned the digital from Voodoo Lab but my setup needed additional ma which the digital could not meet. You can't go wrong with the Truetone 1SPOT PRO CS7 and CS12.
The Gigrig also does a rather cool modular system I can recommend. Not cheap, but very clever with minimal board space required
A friend of mine insisted me to buy a good power supply instead of a noise gate. Now I know the reason why my chain turned so noisy, using a chinese ac adapter with multiple pedal input adapters. Thanks Rabea!!! Pretty informative. GREETINGS from Chile !!
Hey Rabea. Good video. I bought an ISO5, mainly because they advertised isolated power channels and had an 18v output.
I use EMG actives in some guitars and instead of using batteries inside the guitar, I use an EMG ES-918 18v power pack, which stands in between the guitar and the FX/amp in signal chain. EMG do not recommend any external powering of this unit but do have a power socket built into the power pack strangely enough. Using their ES-918, EMG recommend only using batteries inside the pack. In my small home studio environment I use the ISO5 to power the EMG power pack to the active guitars.
I also power the ISO5 through a Furman M-10x E which helps clean up the power supply at the start.
While EMG speculate I would get interference using external powering to their power pack unit, the ISO5 is good enough to provide a clean power supply and keep the noise out. Believe it or not. BTW, my home circuitry is not top quality, and I do get noise in some areas of my home....
So yes, based upon my own experience, Voodoo Labs provide a good product.
Dude congrats on jamming with Gilbert! It was the most amazing thing to see and witness how far you've come as a player and that performance cemented the fact that you are an absolute force in the guitar world. I have never seen someone jam that well with him in my life and you are easily becoming one of the most talented players in the universe. Much respect bro!!! \m/
7:25 So what's the difference between those two cables? The tip & barrel are swapped around?
The Boss "standard" (and many other pedals) is barrel positive, while everywhere else (in the electronics world), it's barrel negative.
My Boss NS-2 cuts the noise from my cheap pedal power daisy chain setup , am i doing it wrong? :(
Same
Cioks power supplies are damn good, I'm running a board with 15 pedals (incl. 2 Strymons) plus a Boss ES-8, 3 MIDI auxiliary loopers and a MIDI splitter, all powered by 3 Cioks units and I only get serious noise if I run the high gain channel on my amp with my Tube Screamer and my Whammy DT together, and I think that's mostly because the Whammy is situated directly on top of the highest output PSU, the Cioks DC-10, TS off: no more problem. (I should mention I use a noise suppressor when using the high gain channel on my amp, but with it off it's really not much noisier than using the amp by itself, no more than you'd expect, less than I expected when I built the thing.)
i also have 15 pedals on my board (plus tuner, no strymons though) and use one cioks dc-10 to power them. how? i daisy chain most of the drive pedals from two of the high mA outputs with those split flex cables. zero noise issues ever. but my board is also a solid metal tool drawer so the psu and most its cables are semi-isolated underneath. that being said, anyone can be unlucky and have noise /hum in their rig, can be so many things. but a good power supply def helps. just bought a voodoo lab 4x4 for a friend which i look forward to testing out before i hand it over.
I use the Gig Rig generator and distributors. The problem with Voodoo Labs power supplies (or any power supplies apart from Gig Rig stuff) for me, is that you can only power a certain amount of pedals with each unit. With the Gig Rig, you can draw up to 5 amps of isolated current, any volt or polarity using their distributors, and you'll never run out of outputs.
I have a Boss ME50 (multi effects) , and MXR 90 ,a DOD D.D. & Tremonti Wah All use the typical 9v Power supply like the one you mentioned at 8:43 ...... All 4 are plugged into a 12.00 Walmart Multi Power strip. Depending on where we play I will get Hiss noise. Is the power strip that all 4 of my Adaptors are plugged into a bad idea? Maybe I should get a better Power strip. Just havent bothered because it seems to work fine,minus the occasional hissy loudness when were not playing.
Step 1: Unplug noisy pedal
Step 2: Toss in rubbish bin
damn, i just clicked onto a pedal power ad
I've been rocking the Pedaltrain Volto for my needs. I am only running analog pedals from it and usually no more than 5 pedals. It lasts for about 5 hours with my pedal board and I don't have to add an extension cord to trip over on stage. It makes set up so much easier, HOWEVER, you just have to make sure its fully charged before the gig.
As soon as you pulled out that chinese power brick I felt personally attacked, hahah!!
Hahahaha! Ikr? I run 2 Joyo Power Supply 2s in my pedalboard :P
I've been looking at the Joyo. You like it?
I've never had any issued with it but I run a very basic pedal setup, only a tuner, overdrive, noise gate and a delay. If I was running something more complicated I'd definitely upgrade to a voodoo labs or T Rex power supply or something along those lines
Yeah, my board's only itty bitty. Wah, OD, Comp, Tuner.
if 500mAh is enuff for you try Harley Benton Junior power supply. it's isolated and cheap.
I thought you would have mentioned daisy chains when using an isolated power supply or which outputs to use for pedals that have higher mA needs. -or if it’s ok to daisy chain wnen you have the mA to spare. These are things I wonder about this topic. Is it never ok to daisy chain?
Wondering why pedals will have mA marked on the pedal such as 9v 300mA when the pedal only draws 100mA? Is that max load or something? Or the recommended power supply to be used?
4:58 I thought voodoo labs are noiseless ? Do you recommend this Rabea? I'm looking to buy one of the ISO 5 because I thought they are noiseless. But now that I see this I'm confused ???$^%
I have an EQD Bellows running off a non-daisy-chained isolated CIOKS power supply and it buzzes really loudly - what's going on there?
I have an older “PEDALPOWER2”, and I still don’t know how to use it properly. On the front are 8, “9volt regulated DC outputs; 4 are ACA, 2 are L6, and two are SAG(with small level knobs). On the bottom of the box are 8 little, “NORMAL” switches.
Q. Can I run a
Digitech WHAMMY
(9VAC ~50/60 Hz, 1.3 power) off of this box?
Also, what is L6?, and what are the underside switches for?
Any helpful clues would be greatly appreciated.
I got a voodoo power supply but I will be returning it. It didn't reduce the hum at all.. There is an initial hum from the humbuckers on my guitar and the compressor and distortion blow it to a crazy level. Not sure what I can do to fix it..
What about the MXR ISO Brick?
Metal Head Hippie It doesn’t come with loads of built in noise, so nothing to talk about! Iso is the best for the money...
I have one and it works great. Love MXR products 🤘
What about your incoming AC power going through a small UPS first. ? dunno what that'll do i might try though
So if I use a Digitech whammy a couple stompboxes some boss pedals and a big muff I need to spend a grand on power?
So is it ok to daisy chain FROM a power supply, assuming there's sufficient current per outlet? No single power supply offers enough 9v outlets for my pedalboard.
Hi -
Help !
I’m using 5 pedals for Bass :
Chromatic Tuner by Boss , and 4 Ampeg pedals ( Compressor , Preamp , Overdrive , Chorus ).
Which power supply would you recommend??
And I’m assuming the Daisy chain will plug right into the 9 volt circuit ???
So, the AC power supply work for older DOD fx series says on bottom for ac operation use 10 volt dc negative power supply.
5:00 by this I'm just more confused. How do you know which type of outlet you need for a pedal?
whats the difference between this one and the VooDoo Lab Pedal Power 2 Plus thats says 12 volt and 250mA instead of ACA and L6
My pedals hum using a 9v output with multiple daisy chains. I don't use any floorboards but I want to use a compressor and distortion together without hum, and add a pitch shifter with half a dozen other pedals on at the same time. what must I do as far as powering them correctly? A Voodoo AC seems best but how many daisy chains can you use with it? I have 10 pedals and want 20.
Do they make linear power supplies rather than the switching type? One would imagine the former being quieter than the latter.
Looking at building a small pedalboard, probably no more than 5 pedals and as a result I've had my eye on the T. rex fuel tank jr. The most similar one here seems to be the one with the 400mah 9/12 volt and 18 volt ports. Obviously these are designed for use with larger pedals, but would there be any issues/dangers of using those ports with regular boss sized pedals? Otherwise I'll probably stick to the T. rex jr as I saw the voodoo labs one only had 3 regular 9volt ports.
I bought a daisy chain to power my 2 pedals literally the only thing that happened was the lights came on.I had whistling out of my distortion pedal with no response from my amp when I use the guitar. My noise gate just straight up didn’t work and stopped my amp from making any noise at all.What do I do
Why I can't use Voodoo Lab Mondo on my Digitech Whammy 5 ? It requires 265 amp 9V, right ?
I use my boss noise suppressor, powered by boss adapter, to power three others. Is that bad?
What if I’m using Stryman and boss and line6? Would I need to have different power blocks on one board? Isn’t there some universal power block which can accommodate most of the pedals? Also if power block has just four 9v outputs, does it mean I can only connect 4 pedals? Thanks
Excellent video, as usual, I can recommend Strymon power supplies too. They are stellar, compact and noiseless.
Take care.
Hi,
Is it ok to use one proper power board and to it add, connect a power brick that will power up three guitar pedals in total? I'm using Katana 50 amp and plan to get something like Boss noise suppressor, Revv G3, and a Korg tuner.
Thanks 😁
Silly question - I bought 2 v labs cables that have a barrel end and a 9v battery socket on the other end. To power up pedals that do not have a battery compartment etc.
Both cables will not power up my boss st-2 & my zvex fuzz factory using brand new battery. No battery inside the pedal.
What do u think. I will take them to a tech. It's just silly. :-)
Hi all, I just stumbled in this video and found it super-useful, but I cannot find a solution that lets me power my EHX DMM and mistress, an 18v pedal and other regular 9v, any suggestion?
I'm a die hard Trutone power supply fan. I've got 14 pedals and the CS12 gets the job done nicely!
I am currently building a floorboard of about 10 to 12 pedals. The pedals that I will put on it are
Hall of fame reverb 2
Flashback 2 delay
EHX memory toy
EXH Neo clone
EXH Stereo Pulsar
Behringer vintage phase shifter
Dunlop wah
Tc electronic ditto looper
Tc electronic corona chorus
EXH nano grail reverb
BOSS DS1 Distortion
JOYO vintage overdrive
Will the Voodoo Lab Mondo be good for powering all of those pedals? I think the one that requires the most power is the wah pedal
What is the red cord for,How come the red one didn’t work for the Mobius but the black one worked fine?
Is this a problem with tube amps because I run a solid state and like five or six pedals in a daisy chain and I don't have this problem
Having a proper power supply is key. I also use a really good noise gate to get rid of noise and unwanted feedback with high gain distortion.
I use a rowin.
Straight copy of the ISP decimator. Works fucking great AND costed about 30 bucks
On my pedal board I just have a Distortion, Wah, Phase Shifter, and a Boss rc-30 loop station but the moment I plug the loop station into my rig I get an insane amount of noise and I don't know why???
Hey where can I get a recording of that track you were playing at the end..that was awesome tone!
I have a behringer pb1000 and that came with a dc power plug that has 1700ma's and I don't have as bad as a problem as the strymon pedal supply in the video, but that is probably because is has plenty of power, therefor there is more than enough to power my pedals, even when I had 12 or 13 pedals for my royal blood set up being powered I didn't get noise as bad as that including beeping and what not. I haven't had any problems with the board and I even brought a palmer power conditioner that I sometimes use just to be on the safe side and to make sure that their is no problems power wise. I also took out the foam pads that were screwed in and put velcro in it instead in order to utilise the space as best as possible.
I bought a voodoo labs pedal power plus in the US but I forgot about the voltage difference from US to EU, currently im using a transformer for that purpose (without ground) is there a way to get as close to zero noise with this rig or buying a few things
Question: I have a Boss ME80. Boss sells a specific power adapter to power it for about $20. Which is what I am using. Is there any reason to consider other power supplies such as these? Note: I only use the ME 80 direct to amp and guitar.
Interesting was just about to add some more pedals, cause my delay crapped out. I made my own pedal board I never got much noise keeping supply underneath the diamond plate seems to suppress noise .Also at home I can plug my amp into a different circuit of power which helps with some feedback issues txs
Hi Bea, how does the Pedal Power AC power the Line 6 Helix? I have a Helix and it uses an AC power cord
I don’t get anything like that daisy chaining in bypass…completely clean. Issue is when some are engaged and not playing, the noise floor is loud! On my amp I have an attenuator built in. If I dial by -9db and turn up it seems to suppress it. Even running things like an Angry Charlie into a Furman on its own 18v I get huge ground noise when on . For these issues…I wonder if I should be looking at a gate pedal Vs say a ISO power supply.
Do these power supply's always have to be plugged in? How long can it go without being powered if at all?
had a peal power 2 for 9 years still kicking awesome product
Any suggestions how to deal with noisy pedals like the bb preamp? It´s qiite loud as you increase the volume. Is there an alternative to a noise gate with loop like the tc sentry ?
Whats the difference between the coloured plugs and the black plug , internal core diameter ?
Hi Rabea, great video demo regarding pedals etc.
What l noticed is your 2 Peavey 5150 heads, l remember selling mine to the captain for you many years ago. Cool to see this in the background 🙏🎶🎸🎸
Keep rocking great music too my friend 👌👌
I always used an BOSS NS-2. If you run the loop correctly and adjust the threshold, completely noiseless until your guitar sends a signal. It was great for my Mic'd up Blues Jr. at festivals. Just throwing out another cost effective option.
I power all of my pedals (tuner, 2 od’s, comp, dd7, rv500, & a line 6 wireless receiver) with the standard 9v 2000mA adaptor on my Skv ps8 board. I don’t get any extraneous noise. Would you still recommend upgrading power supplies?
Rabea, due to the limited number of outputs from these isolated power supplies, most of us still end up daisy chaining several pedals together. Even with your Mondo, don't you have to share some power outputs from it? I try to give the gain pedals their own power source and only daisy chain non-gain pedals (time, modulation, etc. pedals). Feedback, please. Thanks!
I used to use a daisy chain rig, but now I'm using a Voodoo lab 2 plus. And I love it!
Before you completely write them off, batteries are the cleanest source of power available for audio and will never cause noise.
You can also use rechargeable Li-Ion batteries for this purpose.
Martin Krauser batteries scare me....I fear them dying spontaneously!
Pete Cockcroft - Solarflares why would my power supply die? It’s plugged into a wall
Batteries are "quietly" destroying the Earth. RnR is killing the birds. Tattoos and Afros are an abomination. Other than that I really liked this excellent 'info-mercial'. AC is of course Alternating Current as opposed to DC/Direct Current/battery current. If you use both AC & DC, Back-in-Black will sound proper.
Martin Krauser yeah but by the time you've replaced a bunch of them you could've just bought a voodoo pedal power. Especially if you play alot. With a pedal power I can leave all my pedals hooked up and not have to worry about battery drain if my band takes a week or two off and I don't get back to my board for a bit. It has its advantages. To me it's worth the price tag.
Lay off the drugs, Larry.
I've used Diago digital power supplies daisy chained to 7 or 8 pedals and never got hum or hiss. As long as you are not using a five dollar supply I suspect hum and hiss is more likely to come from the mains electricity or the combination of pedals....
On the Pedal Power 2 Plus, with the sagged outputs, would they work the same way as the rest of the outputs if you didn't want to use the sag feature? I'm thinking of upgrading to one of these from a 5 way daisy chain, and this one having 8 outputs would be good for me to eventually get and power more pedals
Rabea Massad..
I've been curious about using rechargable portable power supplies. Have you tried those? They are essentially the same thing as portable cordless cell phone chargers. I don't understand why I see very few of them for sale.
Daisy chains can be straightened up sometimes if you play with order. Initially, you might just plug the first pedal socket into the first pedal, the second into the second, etc. But I've found if you play around with the order, then what's daisying into what can become much friendlier with each other and solve issues. I use a daisy chain and don't get power noise problems because of the method I just described.
Great overview of their bricks. I have two of the PP2+ and couldn't be happier. I did have to buy a couple voltage doubler cables for my Boss DD-500 and MXR 10-Band EQ and one current doubler cable for my G2. I still have an open port. Cheers
I've been using an EBS 9 volt powersupply with a daisy chain for years and it has worked fine all this time. No excessive noise, certainly nothing like you had in the video.
A.J. K You probably have all your pedals in the front. Also probably no digital pedals. And the power supply is probably not bad.
I have a digital reverb (boss RV-5), the rest are analog as far as I know. I use them in front and through the loop depending on what I need, both are just fine. Maybe the EBS is just good, or maybe I'm going a bit deaf ;)
I use a 9v wall adapter with a daisy chain.
Its completely silent. Supports all my pedals and does Ac/DC current and supplies upto 1750mah. Very happy with it.
I like how the Mobius greets you with 'GOOD MORNING'. Genius 10/10!!
I use a Godlyke powerall, it works great so far. The problem is that I don't have space in my Pedaltrain mini for a Voodoo
i use a boss distortion and a jubliee silver overdrive pedal, which one would work best for me?
I still have my original Voodoo Lads Pedal Power. Not the PP2 the predecessor to that and it has been on the board for almost 20 years no problems. I added a second one later. I love them
18V-feeds aren't just for bigger pedals or boards. - You have the few pedals that allow more headroom or whatever, just like for example you'd hook up two 9V-batteries to active pickups.
Michael Angelo H. That doesnt always work though. Example being AHB1 Actives. No need and no benefit gained on headroom with a 18v mod due to the way they are made to fulfill the full headroom.
I have recently gotten into guitar pedals but have only a few as in 3 right now. I do not intend to use anymore I merely have an overdrive compressor and clean boost. I live in an apartment with dirty power so I bought a Furman power conditioner and it helps but I'd imagine with pedals the noise will be worse. Which of these products might help with all of this? I am on a budget but I also dont have enough pedals to justify making a pedal board. In short could I just plug one of these into my power conditioner and then does it come with the patch cables to connect your pedals right out of the box?
I took your advice and got a Pedal Power 2 from a guitar show a couple months back. Had I not saw this, I might have gotten a cheap none isolated jobbie instead. This thing is brilliant. I still have yet to try the sag power for my fuzz. lol
i used to use 3 daisy chains hooked together off of one 9V power adaptor powering 9 pedals, and honestly it wasnt bad at all, the only thing that suffered was my fuzz. Everyone said "dont use that it sucks" and having a proper power supply now is good, but it wasnt any where near as bad as everyone thought it would be.
Which power supply should I use to power a Line 6 MM4, Digitech Whammy, Dunlop Wah, and Boss pedals?
I have a pedalboard with 12 9v pedals on there. All powered by a 1spot and daisy chained to all the pedals. It does do the job but with all the daisy chains underneath it can get a bit noisy. Im looking for a proper power supply but most even the voodoo labs supplies have either not enough 9v slots or different voltage ones that Im not gonna use. Anyone recommend a power supply that can do the job.
Why did the hum get louder when plugging into he 9v 400 mA plug? That wasn't really explained.
Great video mate I wish you were around when I started playing!!
There was no internet or UA-cam we are very lucky
To have such accurate information at our fingertips!
I've used One Spot power adapters with no added noise. I don't run anything like a POD so I can't say how well that would work with more power intensive pedals. However I run pedals from line6, boss, electro harmonix and so on and it works beautifully. So if you're looking for power in the $30 price range then I'd recommend that. They've been great for me. I'd like to see a shootout between one spot and voodoo to see if there is a audible difference in noise level. 👍
Okay so if they are isolated and filtered why did you still have signal noise?
I have a hd500x and also 3 dc regular pedals, do I have to buy the pedal power AC for the Line 6 and the ISO 5 for the others or can I use Just ISO 5 for both?
I run two Harley Benton (Thomann brand) power supplies with five isolated outputs at 9V 120mA without any issues. I highly recommend them.
what about a Furman rack mount power? does the same dosen't it?
You never got rid of all the noise in the first pedal. How would you silence it?
wondering why they stop production, hope they make new one like 500mAh - 1000mAh, now we have the VitoosDC8 / Vitoos iso 8 that can power an HXStomp or the Caline P1 PSU
Wow! I'm currently daisy chaining a 1 spot to run 9 pedals. I never use more than 4 pedals at a time. I've been wondering why I'm getting some noise, although not nearly as bad as in your video, through my ultra-clean Carol-Ann Triptik amp and now I know. Time to go shopping. Thanks Bea.
Much appreciated man, didn't know about the digital one..rock on!