Going to be seeing Oppenheimer with a friend in 1570 film in IMAX soon in Australia, Melbourne. Glad we still do 1570, more expensive that regular theatre. But gonna be totally worth it, so excited. Will be our first time seeing a film in IMAX also. Possibly the perfect movie to go with as our first.
Prepare for an awe-inspiring experience Nicholas. Cinema may be in terminal decline but every three years Christopher Nolan releases a cinematic event and this one may be like nothing we have ever enjoyed before... for those of us who are lucky enough to see it in the film presentation format known to man today. Some three-strip Cinerama fans may disagree but I don't regard that as a current format. If it were, I'd be up for debate about which is better. I hope you have a great time. Cinema will never be the same again for you. John.
Saw Dunkirk at the IMAX. A truly intense experience and IMO Nolan’s best film. The film is so disciplined in its time length and manages to do away with the schmultz and portray the closest to what soldiersare thinking in this situation… trying to survive. The audience I saw it with was silent at the end, and I remember leaving the auditorium and everyone was left silent. I only remember that I watched the best film of that decade.
We had a pretty good round of applause at the end of this screening. I think many of us in there were true film enthusiasts so we appreciated what went into projecting the film as much as anything. John.
Dunkirk is the best movie Christopher Nolan has ever created, because of the respect he gave the subject matter and how he filmed it (Back and Forth Cuts in time and IMAX). Memento was the first movie I ever saw that he Directed, it showed me how special of a director/artist he is...because of the time changes in Dunkirk, it "Reminds" me of Memento. I believe "Christopher Nolan" will go down as one of the Greatest Directors of all time...I know it subjective, but he is already in my top 5.
@@bobswanson8464 I need to get the Memento Blu-ray out for another spin Bob. As for Nolan being one of the greatest directors of all time, I'm appreciating him more and more as the years go by. Clint Eastwood, Ridley Scott, John Carptenter and possibly James Cameron are the other greats still with us that I can immediately think of. Oh, and Brian De Palma. No doubt as soon as I click the 'reply' button I'll think of a dozen more great directors. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Steven Spielberg is in my top five. Entertaining movies and with many different styles/looks to the movies. The list is long and incredible: Columbo (1971 Directed the FIRST of the TV Seriers...NOT TV movies) Duel (TV movie from the 70s...have you seen this???) Jaws (First Summer blockbuster) Close Encounters of the Third Kind Raiders of the Lost Ark ET Poltergeist The Color Purple (Robbed at the Oscars) Jurassic Park (1993...) Schindler's List (Amazing, also 1993) Amistad Saving Pr Ryan Munich Lincoln Bridge of Spies The Fabelmans (Loved this movie...magic) And he was "Executive producer" for so many other movie: Gremlins Back to the future Young Sherlock Holmes (First real CGI) The Legend of Zorro Men in Black Transformers Movies LONG List of GREAT Movies ***Would love for you to do "Your Top 5 Director" Review.
@@moviecollector5920 To my shame, I did not know the name "Brian De Palma". Looked him up, he directed SO Many great movies. The Fury Blow Out Scarface The Untouchables Carlito's Way Mission: Impossible Mission to Mars Now that I see his movies listed, I can see his "Style" in a good portion of his movies.
I’m so jealous, I need to see a film on 70mm imax just once in my life. I’m hoping when Interstellars 10th anniversary comes up they’ll bring it back to IMAX in the states!
Wow this certainly looks like a terrific experience at the BFI. I'm gutted I couldn't make it but thank you for filming the atmosphere of the evening so I could get a sense of the place. Great work as usual John.
It's one of the few remaining cinemas that can tempt me away from my home cinema to see a film Jay... mainly because they're screening a film and because the image quality is so superior to what I can achieve here which is how things should be at a cinema and what we've largely lost since the industry replacement of film with video. What a catastrophic error that's proved to be. John.
I hope to be able to get the home cinema finished very soon Lord Baelish. About 15 months ago I made some videos about putting it together following our move at the end of 2021 and we're still largely in the same situation with it today as it really needs a professional builder to put the necessary holes in the walls for projection portholes and other things. John.
Thanks for dropping into my work place. There's always a buzz whenever we show 15/70mm prints and I'm glad we kept the projector after the refurb. Interstellar has already sold out so those screenings are gonna be amazing. Can't wait to experience the Dark Knight films which I've still yet to witness projected from 15/70. The projection booth is a cinephile's dream space.
Thank you for keeping film alive and proving to the world how superior it still is Tom. I'll be back for INTERSTELLAR before OPPENHEIMER hits the screen. If you didn't see my video of TENET then I think I hopefully got the best coverage of the projection booth so far. John.
Wait until you see INTERSTELLAR, it's even more impressive. TENET is probably the best looking of the genuine IMAX films so far. That one simply has too much to be able to watch it as a film so you just sort of look at it and try to take as much in as you possibly can. John.
Dunkirk is a masterpiece because it is all in the editing - the way the film comes to the final shot of Tom Harry’s character saving the day is epic. Best shot of the film is when the explosions in the sand go off and the main character is cowering in fear. Obviously the film utilise the IMAX ratio and some the shots are wide the angles in the film are incredible). I watched Dunkirk on the IMAX in Manchester Printworks. So epic.
The Manchester IMAX gets incredible feedback on here Clark so you saw it at one of the best. Well done. I think there is only about 15 minutes in DUNKIRK that was shot standard 70mm so the rest of it is real McCoy IMAX and none of that shot on video but passed off as IMAX nonsense. Most of the time they'd get better results from full frame 35mm than video so why don't they do that... oh, Zack Snyder actually did for Justice League and people on here thought it was the real thing. John.
It was one of those rare cinema experiences that will never be forgotten Craig. Quite a few of my top cinema memories have been in the BFI IMAX but only when they're screening a real IMAX film. John.
I went to see rouge one at the london science museum and they screened a 7 miniute preview of Dunkirk on 15/70. Well at that moment i devided that i ABSOLUTLY HAVE to watch dunkirk in TRUE IMAX so i did... i Saw dunkirk in 15/70 at the science museum. It was the best movie experience of my life. Have booked oppi in the BFI and looking forward to it. True imax is something special. Im so glad the bfi didnt decommission their film projector during the refurbishment.
Fortunately the BFI has managed to retain their interest and enough knowledgeable people that appreciate the importance and superiority of film so we should be alright there for some time to come. I saw that Rogue One and Dunkirk preview but at the BFI. One of the most memorable cinema visits ever due to that Dunkirk extract. I thought the Stuka was going to kill us all so it was a relief when the extract abruptly finished just before the bomb hit. Flying with the spitfires is more real in that great IMAX film than actually flying with spitfires. TENET is the best image quality I have ever seen in any cinema but INTERSTELLAR has twice been the most impactive cinematic experience I've ever had. I've seen movies shot on video and movies video projected on the giant IMAX screen and they've all got one thing in common and that is that they're all forgettable. A genuine IMAX film lives in the memory forever. Enjoy OPPENHEIMER. John.
Update. Saw oppenheimer at the bfi last weekend. Amazing presentation. I will definitely continue to watch anything released in 1570. I feel so lucky to have 2 true imax venues so close to me in London
@@nopy99 And both the IMAX cinemas are absolutely brilliant. Most people don't know what the difference is and even that the Ronson in the Science Museum even exists but what an amazing venue that is. You get to walk past JET1 on the way through and cars don't come much more important than that one in the annals of British motoring history. A Rover jet engined car that was intended for mass production - incredible! Glad you enjoyed OPPENHEIMER. There is nothing else quite like IMAX or OMNIMAX. John.
Dear John, Thank you for this work.. We have only digital IMAX in Poland.. I'm so jealous I'm glad you're making your own YT channel. I love listening to you. I'm 24 years old and I love cinema. and thanks to you I learned a lot about the cinema, its history and what a special place it is.. it is also a beautiful year where the history of cinema was celebrated with such films as The Fabelmans and Babylon both shot on a great 35mm
Aha, if Babylon was shot 35mm Henrik then I'll be taking a look at that. I looked at a few of the former cinemas I used to go to often when cinema was special back in the 1980's and 1990's and I saw the poster for Babylon but didn't know anything about it. The Fabelmans didn't draw me to a cinema to see it because it's being video projected everywhere so I might as well wait and see it at home. Probably the same with Babylon but at least with them being 35mm shoots we'll know the 4K discs will be good. Sorry you missed cinema in its heyday but if you can wangle a trip to London when OPPENHEIMER is on at the BFI IMAX then you'll get a very good idea of what every week was like with a new, top quality film going into one of our best cinemas every week. Exciting times and I miss those days. We will never quite see the like of it again but these genuine IMAX films are even more special so it's been like going back in time for me. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes Babylon is 35mm on IMDB there is information and Chazelle talked about it in an interview Yes. I wish VOD wasn't so popular and more people go to the cinema. I would also like to see movies from the 70s and 80s on the big screen in the cinema not long ago I bought myself Braveheart 95'.. fantastic 4K scan.. I'd like to see A Bridge Too Far at the cinema Yes. Unfortunately, there are only Digital IMAX in Poland Have you had a chance to watch Cienarama.. projections? Sorry for my English. Regards, and thank you for your work. plz make video from premier of OPPENHEIMER in BFI :)
@@PwewX460 I saw a modern reproduction of Cinerama at Futuroscope in the early 1990's but I really need to get up to Bradford to see the real deal. I tried last October but the Pictureville weren't exactly responding to my emails so that made it all rather difficult. In the end I gave up trying to speak to anyone up there but I'll try again next year. As for getting to the premier at the BFI IMAX, I do hope that the premier is there and there is some way I can get a pass to shoot some video on the night. John.
I saw this at a true IMAX theater and I did think it was truly amazing. There is 1 scene in the movie that I just thought was the best scene in the movie. The scene of the Spitfire gliding over the beach. You can see the plane from slightly above with the beach lower in the screen. It's right before he lands the plane and burns it. I just truly thought that was some of the best cinematography I can ever seen.
At the IMAX the scene from the Spittie above when Tom Hardy has the cockpit open looked completely real and yet on the 4K disc it looks like a green or blue screen of two IMAX elements optically transposed together. It loses some of its beauty. But in the real deal, full Monty, genuine, never surpassed, head honcho, numero uno, big cheese genuine IMAX it looked convincingly natural and had me questioning how on earth they got the shot. Interesting that we both picked up on the serene beauty of that one sequence Stephen. I expect many others have though. John.
I saw Dunkirk in theaters with another Army friend and whole time those guys were carrying the stretcher we were both thinking "PT, PT, PT!" (Stands for physical training). We had been doing relays on a track and grass carrying people in stretchers. To watch those guys carrying one through all that sand... was almost exhausting to watch!
Good point. It would have been difficult enough without the Germans dropping bombs on you too. Just as well Hitler threw one of his tantrums otherwise the onslaught would have been even worse than it was. John.
@@moviecollector5920 It seems like Hitler's pride and or emotions inhibited the German war effort in multiple ways. Also I want to thank you, John, for the shout out the other day. It seems like a handful of nice people have come over to visit me.
@@MyFireVideos Hitler did also have a bit of an affinity for Britain as a soldier towards the end of WWI let him live when he really should have shot him. I don't think he ever forgot that but when the French and British collapsed back to Dunkirk, if he'd have closed the net fully then today the whole world might well be speaking German. I'm glad some new people have found their way over to you. I think many film enthusiasts appreciate someone who can present a film discussion in a calm, thoughtful manner rather than trying to sound 'cool' and shouting too much possibly because they're a little too self conscious when in front of camera. This evening we're watching the new 4K of Training Day. I've never actually seen it before. Too many movies, not enough time! John.
@@moviecollector5920 Training Day! I was working at the movie theater when that came out so I saw it in 35mm. I don't think I've seen it since. I'll be curious to hear your thoughts. Other random thought: I just reviewed 1963's cleopatra and the aspect ratio on the dvd and the HBO max stream are both different. I'd be curious your thoughts on my quick review and what aspect ratio you would prefer.
@@MyFireVideos I didn't see Training Day at the cinema so my thoughts are that people have got used to how it looks on DVD and Blu-ray and therefore think the 4K is a change whereas I feel it's more likely to be representative of how it looked on 35mm. I might be wrong but to me the Blu-ray looks like a video that's been enhanced so that it won't have complaints about being too dark from home video viewers who didn't know any better. I think Cleopatra was a 65mm shoot for 70mm release and should therefore be among the best quality on Blu-ray. 70mm has an aspect ratio of 2.20:1 unless an Ultra Panavision lens or something similar has been used to squeeze it up for a wider image of around 2.77:1.
Yes, probably the best around now. The Empire after the 1989 refit was top dog but that was split into a multiplex eight or nine years ago so vacated its numero uno position. John.
Hi John! Thanks for these videos! Time I bought Dunkirk 4k and got caught up it's one that must be so good it rarely drops in value. Looking ahead I do see Oppenheimer scheduled but no other Nolan titles yet. YET lol I'm still hopeful and will be ready to spring when/if they announce screenings. Meanwhile your videos do an exceptional courtesy in bringing me as close to the action as one can so again gratitude and glad you had a great time.! many cheers to you guys across the way Dave !
Closer to the release of OPPENHEIMER it's possible IMAX cinemas around the world will stick one or two of the previous NOLAN IMAX films on. I suppose it depends on if they have the prints stored there on platters or not. Keep an eye on it Dave. John.
I love hearing about your IMAX adventures! I'm glad to own the 4Ks of these movies for the best at home experience possible. I wonder if anyone has ever had a 70mm theater at their house. I know some famous people like Quinton Tarantino have 35mm projectors.
I know a few film collectors with 70mm at home. One chap in the USA even had a three-strip Cinerama setup in his home. I think another did in Australia. John.
@@MyFireVideos I'm hoping to get this setup finished soon. Or at least, something I'm happier with than I have been since we moved in over a year ago. John.
It's so refreshing to hear thoughts on true cinema... and yeah, I've got a 10ft screen, 4k Sony PJ with 11.2 surround all tweaked professionally... however, for SHEER ENTERTAINMENT you cannot beat cinema... I've not been to one of these special showings, I live in North Wales and go the normal IMAX whenever I can BUT for me, the sound is never configured right and is deafening at Broughton... from what you're saying here, you've got a truly configured IMAX cinema... and for that I'm jealous... Dunkirk for me was reference quality 4k disc that blew me away in my own cinema room... I can only dream of what it was like watching it there. Thanks for the review, really appreciated.
I'm not aware of a genuine IMAX cinema in Wales Mark so what you're seeing there is a 2K or 4K video projection. To see IMAX it does require a trip to one of the few purpose built theatres that have managed to retain their film projector and the requisite projectionist to go with it. The BFI IMAX is the premiere IMAX in the UK so worth a trip up the M4 for a genuine 15/70 IMAX show. OPPENHEIMER is out in July and my recommendation for that one is to accept no imitations because there really isn't anything that comes close to the real McCoy, true, genuine IMAX film. Configuration isn't applicable because it's film projection, albeit with sound from a hard drive that gets a timecode from the film to stay in sync. The 4K disc of DUNKIRK isn't really reference quality because it's only as good as it is because it was shot genuine IMAX. All that quality shrinks down to provide us with superior quality on 4K disc but it's not really got anything to do with the disc, it's all about how it was shot. TENET is even better and INTERSTELLAR isn't far behind either. THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is up there too. The basic rule of thumb is that any 4K disc that is a movie that originated on large format film will be among the best of 4K discs. The bigger the film format the better it should be. Kenneth Branagh's Murder on the Orient Express was shot 65mm for 70mm release and is probably the best I've seen but DUNKIRK and the other IMAX films mean they come from even larger image area film than a standard 65mm shoot. Worth keeping a look out for large format films on 4K because they're the best quality you'll see. There are a few movies shot on video that have proved it's getting there though. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hi John, no it's not a 15/70 IMAX... they advertise as IMAX experience just like a multitude of these all over the country but it's not the full experience at all. However it does have the larger screens etc and allegedly although I'd argue "Remote Monitoring24x7x365 for optimal performance" hahaha so it's a far better experience than "standard cinema" but yep, it's nothing like you are getting there. Where I'm saying on our cheapo IMAX is that the sound is overbearing i.e.. it's always simply too loud, every single person states the same that I know who goes there so they need to amend that sound and what it's doing. i.e. I don't believe that it's configured properly within the theatre... it's like they've hit the loud button so everything becomes too brash... I remember seeing Skyfall at iMax and it was just noisy (although I know it wasn't filmed with iMax cameras, it was an upscale I believe to iMax format? but might be wrong here) As for reference I mean (i.e. it is top of the top for the home video format i.e. 4k), I'd argue slightly here. If you have a 35mm film negative, this can scan into digital nicely up to around 16-25k digitally because that 35mm film does contain that much detail... but we generally don't do that. At max I see we scan at intermediates of 4k, 6k or 8k ( e.g. I think original blade runner was re scanned at 8k and I believe that Casablanca which looks outstanding for it's time was scanned at 16 bit 16k?) because that level of information exists on the film negative... it's whether we choose to scan at that level?... ... so in fact you could have, in my opinion, a fantastic pristine 35mm negative that could, when scanned at 16k and then downscaled onto a 4k disc give stunning picture quality to match anything at 70mm on the ? Would this not be as good as a 70mm iMax scanned film at 16k and then transferred onto a 4k? Simply from a pure detail point of view, as both of those film formats can contain WAY more "information" than a 4k image gives when scanned anyway? I do agree though Dunkirk looked sensational, although Tenet for me, looks false on 4k (and is an appalling film, never liked it personally) and Interstellar like you state is a classic although that on 4k disc isn't clean like Dunkirk and Tenet... it's a completely different picture style that can in place look grimy which isn't a criticism however it's filmed that way. Be fantastic though to see Interstellar on 15/70 iMax... bet you can't wait. However on the big screen obviously a projector showing 15/70 this would be a completely different ball of wax. I'd love to go to that true iMax, hell of a trip for me as i'm in North Wales unfortunately
@@MrPugheaven The general consensus seems to be settling on around 6K for 35mm but that still wouldn't match up to the original owing to the random grain and diffuse light you get from 35mm that is not possible to replicate in a computer format. However, the limiting factor is how the film looked originally and a lot comes down to the different film stocks, lenses used for the shoot and the approach taken by the cinematographer. When it comes to 70mm and 15/70 IMAX it's so superior to any of the present video formats that those films inevitably create the best 4K video discs. VistaVision, Technirama and a whole lot of other large film formats achieve similar end results on 4K discs because they're so superior to what can be achieved today with video cameras that it means that these films shot decades ago look better than what film makers are achieving today... with the exception of 70mm and genuine IMAX. Ask to speak to the manager of your local cinema and tell him the sound is too loud. If enough complaints come in then something will be done about it. Many cinemas turn the volume knob up to 11 and not just for screening 'This Is Spinal Tap'!
@@moviecollector5920 Hi John, you got me in the mood and I slapped this on at home Sunday and watched in cinema room... my god the soundtrack to this is perfection... it's not even a musical score it's just sound but it's soooo effective... and as a film it's a 10/10 without a doubt!!! That picture is sublime, certainly one of the top 4k discs available... it's as good as we'll ever get at home without a doubt. .. on another subject... Nolan and no DTS:X or ATMOS ... talk about a film that would benfit... and yet he still doesn't bother... very very odd decision from him!
@@MrPugheaven And it's even better in the real McCoy 15/70 IMAX Mark. It was like watching the film all over again for the first time, if that makes any sense at all. An amazing experience... and the same with TENET which is something else again. John.
Hi John! I'm timetravelling again having just finally been able to order this 4k for 15cdn so looking forward to seeing the film after all this time. Our Imax in Langley has Oppenheimer back on but to date no other Nolan films yet. Most reviews are consistant with Dunkirk 4k being excellent quality... Take care all the best D in BC!
I think DUNKIRK is better image quality than OPPENHEIMER overall Dave but I haven't done a direct comparison. It's likely better because it's all shot outdoors and as a result has more light coming in through the lens to generate superior image quality. I also think it's a film that's better suited to the IMAX 15/70 and standard 70mm format because it's an action film rather than a drama. I hope you have a great time with it. Oh, and here's a clue to comprehending the multi-angle, multi-timeline nature of DUNKIRK: there are three captions near the start and each denotes one of the three timelines which vary from one week to one day to one hour. It's all then mixed up into one story that gets seen from two or three perspectives but are the same sequences from different angles at different times during the film. A lot of people get confused by that so hopefully this will help your comprehension of what is happening. John.
Hi John! wow my Dunkirk copy just arrived with a blu ray in a 4k case with funny shrink wrap lololo omg my first Amazon mishap so I will have to wait a bit more as they say they will ship out the 4k. I'll get there eventuallly lol ... hope you are well over there meantime and my best D in BC!!@@moviecollector5920
I was at this screening of "Dunkirk" in IMAX 15/70mm. (You can see me at 4:07 moving my bag and coat for the couple). Came down from Birmingham, just to see this in IMAX 15/70mm. And I couldn't agree more; watching a film in this format is an absolute life-changing experience for any film fan. Let alone, watching a film on print in this day and age is just extraordinary. Digital could never beat watching a film on print for me. Just seeing the grain on the footage, gives it that nice authentic feel, that you could never get with a digitally projected image. And if you're sitting near the back, like I was, you get that beautiful faint sound of the projector doing it's work, during the dialogue moments of the film. Plus, it just has more clarity and depth too. I'm always attending the 35mm screenings at The Electric in Birmingham, when I can. And I will be attending the rest of the films in the "Christopher Nolan On Film" season, at the BFI IMAX. I can't wait!
If you're the person in the second row from the back then you were sat next to us. It's a small world. As for video projection not coming up to film, it has got a lot better but it's still not quite got the life of film. The trailers before the film were sub-standard by comparison but it is only 4K so we shouldn't expect too much. I hope the video projections of OPPENHEIMER around the world are better to look at than the trailer though. Whilst the trailer is excellent, the image quality is poor compared to genuine IMAX film. Very poor in fact. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes, that’s me! And I did notice your ticket in the video, and realised that you must have been sitting next to me. That’s so cool. It is indeed a small world. And yeah, I couldn’t agree more with the comparison between the 4K trailers, and the overall (approximately) 12 - 18K resolution of the IMAX 70mm footage, of the film itself. It just does not compare. And I’ll be honest, I don’t think digital projection will ever come close to that kind of clarity. It certainly won’t ever have the authentic feel of the grain, or the slight jitter of the frames going through the projector. Digital images can be slightly enhanced by being transferred to print like 35mm, because I did go and see the new “All Quiet On The Western Front” recently in 35mm. And it was improved by having the grain, and the authenticity of celluloid. But, of course, it didn’t quite have the depth and clarity to the colours, like it would if it was also shot on film. But I would still prefer a digital image transferred to print, over digital projection any day. And I will admit, when the IMAX intro came up before the “Oppenheimer” trailer, I thought it was actually going to be a preview of the film. As Nolan has always done that with his films, within months before release (e.g. The Dark Knight prologue). But hey, just a trailer, I guess, haha. It is a shame though that it didn’t at least utilise the 1.43:1 aspect ratio. I would have loved to have at least seen a sneak peek of what the film will look like in full-frame IMAX. I hope you both enjoy the rest of your week, and keep up the amazing work. All the best from Eden :)
@@viciouscobrafilms8194 35mm is probably around the equivalent of 6K but with the addition of random grain and superior colour and density so it's hard to put a figure on it. IMAX is getting on for ten times the size so I think the video projector manufacturers should be aiming for a minimum of 20K if they ever want to get up to the mark but even then, it's not going to have the reality of film so perhaps they should scrap the whole video project, leave it as it is as a bit of a sub-standard but perfectly adequate for most people solution and get back to developing film and its exhibition. A pig has just flown past the window! Shame we didn't speak last Thursday. You did step on my toes though! Okay, I made that last bit up!!! John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yep, I definitely think they should just do that. Just stick to their 15/70mm projection, for as long as they can. But I’m sure, as long as there are celluloid enthusiasts like you and me, print film will hopefully continue to thrive for the years to come. And I will be attending that third screening of “Interstellar”, you mentioned in the video, so if I see you around for that. I’ll be sure to say hello. I’m on row G for that one. I’ll be at the “Inception” screening, the weekend after, and then “The Dark Knight Trilogy” all-nighter in June. All the best from Eden :)
@@viciouscobrafilms8194 I'd like to see THE DARK KNIGHT RISES but I'll have to wait to see how the finances are going because it costs hundreds of pounds every time owing to the inflated cost of an overnight hotel room due to them all being practically full owing to the amazing levels of tourism in central London now and also the government taking so many of the rooms and filling them up. What a bummer! I'll see you at INTERSTELLAR though... bought the ticket so now just have to work out how to get there for 11.30am on a Sunday without it costing hundreds again. John.
The trailer for OPPENHEIMER suggests we're in for something a little different this time Jacob... nothing new there then because every one of his IMAX films have been different after the Batman films. John.
@@moviecollector5920 love to see one of those in IMAX one day - we Got a cinema here in Copenhagen that can show IMAX - but i doubt its the same caliber as the one you Got in London :)
That’s so cool! Thank you for taking us along with you. Here in the USA we really don’t have many authentic film IMAX theaters and trying to find information online is worthless around here 😂 We can experience them through your excitement! 🎥
There are still plenty of genuine IMAX cinemas in the USA but I think that standard cinemas using the name when all they have are video projectors is causing some confusion. The Washington Dulles IMAX at the Udvar Hazy Air & Space Museum still have genuine 15/70 IMAX when I was there a few years ago. I didn't go in the cinema but it was still screening film and if I'd have had the time, I'd have been in like a shot. Email the original, purpose built IMAX theatres because there are going to be prints of OPPENHEIMER distributed to them and I hope it will be a big event for each genuine IMAX. John.
John, another fantastic video. I will have to go and see a film there. I can only imagine what Dunkirk looked like on that screen. If you could see any film there, would would it be?
It's got to be a genuine IMAX film Andrew because I have seen 35mm blow-ups and however good it is to see a film at 85 feet wide, when you know what the real McCoy looks like then anything else is a little disappointing. OPPENHEIMER is coming so I think you should start planning a London visit to coincide Andrew. John.
Anything will be impressive due to the width of the screen Sean but genuine IMAX film is what makes it a really special place to see a film. OPPENHEIMER is coming so perhaps see if you still have a purpose built IMAX anywhere with the capability for the real deal 15/70 film prints. There's nothing else quite like it and never has been actually. John.
Fantastic review and loving the IMAX coverage, it truly is my favourite cinema - Was very lucky to see Interstellar for the second time at the Bfi IMAX and it was even better than I remember it - I'd never noticed you could hear the projector humming in the background until you mentioned it in this video, and it made it even more special that I could notice that this time round!!
I'm going to the screening on the 23rd Marcus and this time I'll be right at the back whereas nine years ago I was right at the front so it may not have quite the same impact as it did but I'm really looking forward to seeing INTERSTELLAR again as it should be seen despite having watched it two or three times on 4K disc in my own home cinema. There is nothing like genuine IMAX. Being at the back, I'll be able to hear the projector occasionally too which makes it more like cinema as it used to be but even better because 15/70 is the best resolution exhibition format man has ever invented. John.
I don't think I disagree with you there A A. While I think TENET is the most impressive work of art, no one else understands it whereas DUNKIRK is far more conventional and easy to follow... and look at for that matter. John.
Thanks so much for this again, John. I was lucky and fortunate enough that the only showing of this I caught in 2017 was in 15/70mm IMAX. Haven't gotten the 4K disc yet, for some odd reason or another, but will immediately rectify that.
It's one of the best 4K discs that I've seen Nicholas. I'm not sure if it's been knocked off the spot I gave it in my Top Ten 4K video about a year ago but irrespective of that, it's still absolutely fabulous. John.
Keep an eye on this page of the BFI IMAX web site for any Nolan genuine IMAX film announcements. Only the Batman all-nighters apart from The Dark Knight on its own but that only had a few short sequences in the real McCoy so not quite up to the levels of TENET. But OPPENHEIMER is coming soon so that's probably the one to aim for. John.
Hi John, Great video! really enjoying these IMAX 1570-based videos, perhaps you'll make one for Interstellar? I very much like this series of comparing the 4K disc to your 1570 BFI experience. Greatly appreciate you mentioning me at the end. I'm very looking forward to seeing a 1570 presentation, it'll be something truly special! Cheers, Clark
There's a chap going to see INTERSTELLAR at the Melbourne IMAX which must be the same showing you got tickets to Clark. I should have saved his name for you so if he replies to me again I'll give you a pointer. I'm getting a renewed appreciation for these genuine IMAX films after seeing TENET and now DUNKIRK. How will I ever accept any less after seeing them projected to such perfection? It takes something special to get me back to a cinema nowadays and these two showings are among the best cinema visits I've ever had. Two of the top three probably and the third of those is INTERSTELLAR at the same cinema in 2014. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I've found the person who also travelling from Sydney to Melbourne to see it in this comment section, there's a small chance I'll see him. I think it makes it even more of an event because of the fact you're getting that extra expanded imax ratio, content that cannot be found anywhere other than imax 70mm or 4K laser. Cheers, Clark
@@ClarkTeddles The sheer size of each frame of IMAX I think means more light gets in through the camera lens and each enormous 24fps exposures results in better image quality than anything else. Even if it was masked off to 1.90:1 or something like that, it would still be so much more special than anything else. You're going to have a great time Clark. John.
Cannot wait to see interstellar here in a couple of weeks! Have managed to resist watching it for the last couple of years just so that I could see it specially in an IMAX again - and where better than the BFI.
This is one of those movies that I'm glad to have seen it once but I really have no desire to see it again. That said, I would jump at the chance to see it on IMAX.
Video projection is exceptionally good today SAINT, no doubt about that. But nothing touches 15/70 IMAX... or standard 70mm for that matter. Video is always improving though so one day maybe film will be surpassed. Doesn't look like it will be any time soon judging by the stark superiority of genuine IMAX from 2017. John.
John, if you know anyone who fancies a ticket for Interstellar this weekend, I’ve got one for sale potentially. I didn’t realize it’s marathon weekend and getting to public transport will be a pain where I live. Decent seat, back row, middle seating.
I didn't know it was this Sunday either Jim. That might cause a few problems for people but hopefully public transport won't be on strike or anything stupid. Can the ticket be returned to the box office? If not, we really need to get you in touch with someone who would like it. Are you sure you can't get there? We plan to hang around after the show so maybe quite a few of us will and we can have a bit of a film enthusiasts gathering. Perhaps to to the Wellington pub for a drink and a snack which is just the other side of the roundabout under the railway bridges. Transport shouldn't be messed up by the time we're all finished. John.
@@moviecollector5920 We’ll see. I’ve got quite a bit of back pain at the moment so I’d rather not have to walk very far which is the problem. I’m not sure how early I’ll have to leave to escape Wapping in time to miss the crowds and get on public transport. If you know anyone who wants a ticket and will give me my money back, let me know. I need to work out how best to get there on screwed up public transport.
@@jim_herd Back problems Jim.... feeling rather the same at the moments but nothing's completely gone so far. See how you feel on Sunday if something can't be sorted out with your ticket. I hope to do a UA-cam video tomorrow but something else always gets in the way at the moment. I'll try to mention that someone may have a spare ticket for the big show on Sunday if I do get something recorded.
I saw it in 70mm with masking and DTS sound it was amazing it was so loud the theater was shaking it felt like we were there the gun shots made you ears ring it was great!!!!
70mm is the best format for seeing a movie Josh... other than the 70mm genuine IMAX that is. I really did notice the superiority over standard 70mm film this time and I need to look into the reasons for that a little more. John.
@@moviecollector5920 dunkirk is the only 70mm movie i remeber seeing we had to drive 3 hours to see it that way a few years ago. As far 15/70 imax I have only ever seen the Dark night rises in that formart. I wish I could see move but they don't offer film where I live just Digital they conver in 2012. I like Film better but digital looks better here in my town because they always had so many problems back in the 35mm days at our theaters they were always out of focus or dim. Now run right I would rather have film every time with DTS sound or the sound on a compter uncompressed. With masking ofcourse. Digital has killed the masking and framing of movies and giveing use ugly gray bars on the top and bottom.
@@JunkerDC Showmanship has all but died in cinemas today but there are still some. Fortunately some also still have film projection capabilities which means the best quality available can still be seen occasionally. 35mm isn't particularly difficult but if the person doing it isn't interested then it can still be a bit of a disaster. What you largely have today is people who can press buttons so masking is a bit of an inconvenience too far because that would mean another one or two button presses. As for tabs, no one would understand why anybody would prefer to look at some beautiful curtains rather than a blank screen!
1:00 I wonder if the 70mm non-IMAX scenes for Interstellar will also be cropped and zoomed. I would personally prefer if they were left untouched at 2.20:1 to minimise the loss in quality and retain the full frame. But I could see how the switching between 1.43:1 and 2.20:1 could be a bit weird.
I was sat right at the very front, far right for INTERSTELLAR back in 2014 so it was a bit awe-inspiring that close and although my recollection has been that the 70mm scenes were 2.20:1 I now wonder if they were zoomed up to minimize the jarring of the aspect ratio switch. Maybe it was as a result of INTERSTELLAR the optical zoom compromise was adopted. I guess we'll find out soon. And the BFI have added an extra INTERSTELLAR show so it will be interesting to see how quickly that one sells out. John.
2:07 AFAIK in a dark room that "HDR Setting" option should always be left turned off to retain the creative intent and accuracy of the HDR and should only be increased if the picture is too dark in a bright room. But I have an OLED TV and not a projector so maybe it's different.
Generally my telly has the same problems with HDR Roland but all our systems are different and in particular, mine are both setup to replicate the look of film as closely as possible. Most have them setup too bright and with exaggerated colour which is not my preference so I suppose my interpretation of HDR will possibly mean I find it too bright compared to the majority of others. I grew up with film you see whereas most of us have only known video. John.
Hi John! Great video! I tried booking tickets for Interstellar but just missed out, luckily I checked again 20 or so minutes later and there was a third showing, which I've booked up! I'm so excited! See you there. 😃
Make sure you find me before or after James. I think we might have quite a group of us at that showing which should make for a good time having a bunch of us film nuts all together in what has got to be the top film venue in the UK. John.
I'm very happy to hear this. I wasn't lucky enough to see DUNKIRK on IMAX but I bought the 4K disc this week. I also bought Sam Mendes' war film, 1917, in 4K. I'm very exciting about seeing both of these. I had a feeling they are going to make my sound system perform at it's absolute best!
Two fabulous 4K discs Eoghan. DUNKIRK is one of the very best because it was mainly shot genuine IMAX. Don't turn it up too loud though otherwise your house might collapse!
No chance of that and particularly when you see how good DUNKIRK and OPPENHEIMER are. The Prestige is very good too but obviously not of the standard of the two genuine IMAX films. John.
I was lucky to catch the premiere screening of Dunkirk at the Paragon IMAX Bangkok in 15/70. Absolutely incredible experience I'll never forget. Genuine IMAX presentations are something very special indeed, and long may they continue.
I think it's better than INTERSTELLAR but TENET may be the best 4K disc of all on our new video projector. All systems produce varying results though and what is the best I've ever seen up to now - MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS - is nowhere near as good on the new projector but still looks better than them all when projected on our older projector. By that I mean that the older projector caused ORIENT EXPRESS to look better than TENET on the new projector. It's close though. DUNKIRK is a top three disc and may now be number 2 behind TENET. John.
We need to get these genuine IMAX cinemas to give these prints an airing on an annual basis Darren just so people do get the chance to experience cinema as it should be today. Joh.
@@Darrenlovesmovies NO TIME TO DIE and NOPE were recent films shot 15/70 IMAX but not a single print of either of them. I don't even think they finished on film so we're not likely to get the chance to see them as they should have been seen now. What a waste. John.
I’m really looking forward to seeing Oppenheimer next weekend on 70mm IMAX I was lucky enough to see Dunkirk on 70mm IMAX film and regular 70mm print it’s just on another level I have seen interstellar twice at IMAX the only movie that has even come close is a 1968 70mm of 2001 and the picture and sound was amazing and the in camera effects are amazing and actually look better than some modern CGI 😂
I think on set special effects are preferable to computer effects Ben. A lot of the time they look more realistic but even when they're not the image quality is almost always better owing to the low quality computer images are usually output at. At best they're output at 4K but usually 2K due to the time it takes. We'll both have to get along to Bradford the next time the Pictureville put 2001 A Space Odyssey on the curved, louvred Cinerama screen just so we can make a final decision about which is the more impressive cinematic event between 2001 and Interstellar. John.
Interesting I did not no that about the low image quality seems a odd choice, In the 80s I’m pretty sure when they were rotoscoping like in blade runner & tron they shot those scenes in 70mm to get the best quality for the effects. I’m interested to see what the new print of 2001 looks I think Chris Nolan oversaw the remastered 70mm film. I saw the original version just before Warner took it out of circulation
@@benjaminmanchett1507 Still today most computer effects shots are output at 2K and that takes around 15 hours per frame apparently. Outputting at 4K quadruples the time each frame takes. This is a big reason why conventional special effects and on set special effects look so superior much of the time. John.
I don't think they'll mind you getting some shots of the auditorium but it's not particularly usual to get access to the projection booth which is all temperature and humidity controlled due to the sensitivity of the equipment, particularly the IMAX GT 15/70 film projector. Even though I was invited there to shoot TENET from the booth the management still wanted me to ask for permission to shoot around the rest of the building in writing, which I did but only after I'd actually got most of the shots already. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thank you for your answer John. I have tried sending them an enquiry via BFI website, but unfortunately still waiting for the answer. On the other hand I was lucky to film inside the science museum IMAX. IMAX Tour: Science Museum, London ua-cam.com/video/671CgN7LHoY/v-deo.html
@@boredtech Funnily enough I had a look and saw that you had uploaded the Science Museum IMAX late last night and made a note to have a look this morning. You did well there. My colleague from the BFCC (and the big boss actually) managed to get in there when it first opened and shot the projector running but neither of us can find the video he shot now, damn it! I think I've only seen The Force Awakens there but that six minutes of genuine IMAX was worth the cost of admission on its own. It's not quite the same level of spectacular as the BFI IMAX but still better than anywhere else other than the BFI IMAX. I don't bother with anything projected on video anywhere and not even any cinema claiming video projection is IMAX because it's not the same thing. OPPENHEIMER should go some way to set the record straight if we can encourage enough people to seek out a genuine IMAX with a 15/70 print and it seems that I already have some people flying in from across Europe so we'll have to try and coordinate a specific screening in order that we can meet up. Seeing an IMAX GT in operation is awe inspiring. Words can't do it justice and it was a bit of a dream to actually get into the number one venue to shoot it, particularly with TENET showing which I think is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. It may not be the greatest film, not quite, but when it looks as good as it does from the real McCoy IMAX 15/70, then who cares? John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah, I agree. I wonder, how many cinemas will show OPPENHEIMER on 15/70? By the way, last month I was back to science museum for an Interstellar screening. I was able to film how the prepare the projector (full video coming soon). Even made a time lapse. Have a look. ua-cam.com/video/X9wyHmpIzTs/v-deo.html
@@boredtech That link is to your Traumpalast IMAX video, is that right? Flying a drone tends to unnerve me at times so I found an easier solution that achieves the same thing by sticking an action camera with a remote viewfinder on a stick. It's much quicker to do it that messing around with a DJI Mavic or something else. INTERSTELLAR is probably the most memorable cinema visit I've ever had. That was nine years ago at the BFI and I'll be repeating it in a couple of weeks. It's sold out yet again so there's something happening with INTERSTELLAR for any genuine IMAX that still has the 15/70 prints in-house. Melbourne sold out almost immediately they announced it. But for sure at the BFI, it's a master print as is TENET and judging by the clarity and density of their print of DUNKIRK, that must be too. I feel sorry for the once genuine IMAX cinemas who made the mistake of removing their 15/70 projectors as they're going to be screening these films sub-standard from now on. It's a terrible shame but management who don't understand must surely be why these seemingly ridiculous decisions are taken at times. John.
I hope you have a good time with it Jack. It's a great 4K but nothing compares to the real McCoy. I could watch the Christopher Nolan genuine IMAX films in 15/70 over and over again so I think an annual IMAX festival should be on the calendar at the BFI. Being central London we'd have people flying in from all over the world given how most IMAX cinemas aren't 15/70 IMAX and either 2K, 4K or just over 4K video projection. John.
What a film this is I got the 4K and when he walks onto the beech at the start it was woah! Really sad when the lad falls down the stairs on the boat. Glad you enjoyed it at iMac keep up the good work👍
How does an IMAX 70mm 1.43 viewing compare to a GT dual laser 1.43 IMAX viewing? I read for the GT laser to reach 1.43, they simply stretch it from 1.9. Is that true? If so, then it has less of the original image.
I can't answer this one D B. The basic fact is that IMAX with two projectors is just over 4K. Stretch that anyway you like and it's always going to be sub-standard. It's a shame it doesn't use a different name such as IMAX LITE because many people go into these faux IMAX cinemas thinking they've seen IMAX and probably wondering what all the fuss is about. The only way to see genuine IMAX is when a genuine IMAX cinema is running one of the genuine IMAX 15/70 film prints with a film that was shot using 15/70 negative stock which was then edited and finished before the prints were struck directly from it. That's what makes the Christopher Nolan films special. He used five sequences in THE DARK KNIGHT but then THE DARK KNIGHT RISES made much more use of the format and he hasn't looked back from there. OPPENHEIMER will effectively be his fifth IMAX film but six if you stretch it to include the short sequences in THE DARK KNIGHT. John.
I know what you mean Pablo because I would sit there and watch it all again right now. And TENET. What a wonderful adventure this IMAX revival at the BFI is proving to be. So exciting to see film again and to remember how good it really can be. Maybe I should start a UK Parliament petition to abolish video and make it law for all films to be shot genuine IMAX. John.
The closest IMAX 70mm to me is in indiana, and that is hours away. And they don't always present their movies on the 70mm projector, and they don't always specify on their website. I hope I can see one showing soon!!!
Hi, I notice you have Optoma projectors, I have a Optoma HD131Xe that I have been using daily since 2014 only changed the lamp once would like to stick to same brand Any recommendations on a 4K model
The best one you can splash out on Ben. The reason we got the UHZ50 is because of the plan to hang a projector upside down in the next room and project through a large porthole into the cinema. We didn't fancy doing that with the huge UHD500X. See if you can find my British Film Collectors Convention video from early May because you'll see the UHD500X at work there onto the 24ft wide screen. I think we were limited to 22 feet owing to the masking across the top of the stage area but that screening generated some chat because it looked so impressive. I did select some of the best 4K discs for the job though. John.
Ok thanks John, I will take a look at that it’s difficult to buy projectors as only specialty electronic stores have demonstrations and it’s usually a expensive brand
@@benjaminmanchett1507 The UHZ50 here is giving pretty fabulous results now Ben but I know many people get hung up on certain features and it may not have everything you want in that regard. We just wanted a good value 4K projector that would give similar results to the UHD550X but manageable to hang upside down where we needed to put it. The 550X is simply too big for that and although the UHZ50 doesn't have such a good zoom lens I've managed to make it work satisfactorily. I'm not sure HDR is so obvious through it but it may actually be better and I'm just not entirely used to how it displays through it yet. Excellent image quality is achievable but that laser can often be too bright so I'm still getting to grips with that. That excessive light output doesn't adversely affect everything all the time and on the occasions when it is overly bright it can be reined in. John.
So jealous, Dunkirk on TRUE IMAX, I wish I was there. Saw this in the "IMAX Jr." at the Cinema just up from the street from me, nice but NOT what you were able see. Dunkirk is an incredible Movie from the Director and Everyone Else who was involved in creating this movie (art). Took me awhile to understand how the movie was filmed, but once my mind clicked in...the movie took on a whole new life. Because it took me a bit to become "One with the movie", I had to go watch it again...like all Christopher Nolan movies, the 2nd viewing is ALWAYS better and more enjoyable. BFI is at the TOP of my list when I visit London...darn Covid and Grandson (just kidding on this one), changing all my travel plans. Soon...2024???? Well done as always...others do a simple review of a movie, but your reviews make me appreciate the history, art and experience of the movie. Thanks and cheers...until next time.
The pandemic is over here now Bob as we've all had it and therefore have good levels of immunity. It's now endemic so nothing more that we can do or need to do. In other words, sod it all and get over here for OPPENHEIMER! All these faux IMAX theatres passing off video projection as the great name are just not going to cut it. Such a shame it doesn't have a different identity but I suppose it's IMAX and cinemas trying to stay in business which I can understand. 'IMAX LITE' would be a good ID for these video projection cinemas using 2K and 4K. DUNKIRK in genuine IMAX is a different animal. What was a very good or great film became a masterpiece before my eyes. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Next Year for sure...Grandson has been eating up our vacation time. And my daughter wants us to move to Texas to be near our Grandchild.
I was planning on going to that Dunkirk 15/70mm IMAX screening but my family was busy so we couldn’t go. My family are planning on going to the Interstellar IMAX showing though!
Can you please explain 70 mm imax vs theatres that are just 70Mm like showplace icon Roosevelt in Chicago? Which is 70Mm or should I go to digital IMAX??
IMAX is 70mm film that runs horizontally through the projector gate because it's so enormous at 15 sprockets wide. It is the biggest film format every invented/used and nothing else has ever come close with the possible exception of three-strip Cinerama but that was an entirely different approach and end results. Some years ago IMAX was taken over and as usually happens after this sort of thing the new management wanted to make money out of their investment so they thought the great name could be used to fool the unwary into thinking they were paying to see something special when the fact was the new methods of presenting movies using the IMAX name was a massive downgrade. Today we are getting movies labelled as 'Optimized for IMAX Theatres' but this is complete nonsense. If slightly different names were adopted for these various video projection methods they are using such as IMAX LITE then no one would be under any illusions but it's all about money. There is only one IMAX and it is projected via 70mm film running through at 1.7 metres a second. Nothing else comes close and with OPPENHEIMER imminent there is only one way to truly see the film which like the Nolan IMAX films before it, has been shot and finished on film. And that is the credit to look out for whenever anyone is trying to pass off a video or a film shot on 35mm as IMAX. It's a big lie and that is why anything other than the real McCoy is referred to as LIEMAX. I hope this explains it. When it comes to TENET, DUNKIRK and INTERSTELLAR, if you haven't seen them in 15/70 IMAX then you really haven't seen them at all. An experience like no other and true cinematic events in a time when the people in the industry are largely disinterested in offering anything of true quality. John.
@@moviecollector5920 man.. That was an amazing answer. Really appreciate. Covid imax at navy pier was permanently shut down taking away the only imax in Chicago. Some people have told me to see it at a theater with 70Mm capability but as you put it, it’s not the same. I’m seriously thinking about driving to Indianapolis or Grand Rapids and making a day out of it lol.
@@jzpat If you're a movie fanatic similar to myself then we have got to see this in the full Monty. Who knows how much longer or how many more times we'll ever get a chance to see one of these glorious prints so we do need to take the opportunity when it comes around. Standard 70mm is better than anything else today so that would still be special but I do show the difference between the two formats in another video from around the time I was doing these IMAX videos a few months ago and the width of the IMAX frame is an extra 30% to 40% over standard 70mm. That makes an enormous difference. The way the projector works is different too as a vacuum has to suck each individual IMAX frame onto the rear element of the lens to ensure the focus is held over the enormous coverage area before the next frame is shot into position using a process known as the Rolling Loop. The speed of all this has to be seen to be believed but fortunately I was able to do that in the TENET IMAX video which is called 'IMAX 70mm FROM THE PROJECTION BOOTH: TENET. If you haven't seen that one then please have a look and marvel at what is an engineering marvel. It was all invented at the end of the 1960's and it's still the best movie presentation format in the world today. What a sensation. Actually, it's too much to take in a lot of the time so when you do see one of these genuine IMAX films it might need a couple of viewings to fully take it in. TENET is simply too much and needs a dozen viewings at least! John.
@@moviecollector5920 that all sounds so fascinating. I am going to look for that imax video! As a big fan of Christopher Nolan, it pains me to say I haven’t had the opportunity to see any of his films in imax. Interstellar is one of my favorite movies all time. It left a lasting impression on me. Even watching those imax scenes on my OLED is mesmerizing. I can’t imagine what imax is like. I think I am absolutely driving to see the film. You’ve convinced me. I want to experience his film in its true form. And I’ve watched tenet 5 times and I convince myself I understand what’s going on 😂. It’s getting better though. I only wish the dialogue was more crisp in that movie.
John, you make it sound so exciting that I immediately went to search for tickets! But, unfortunately, there are no Nolan films currently playing. Well, John Wick 4 most likely was not filmed on 15/70mm IMAX - as you said, very few movies are. But, I will settle for that to quench my thirst! Wonderful invitation! Dmitri
Keep an eye on any genuine IMAX theatre in the Colorado area Dmitri because it's possible that in the run up to OPPENHEIMER they'll put any prints they're storing back on the cakestand to give them an airing. After all, the 15/70 projectors don't get much use these days so they'll all need to be ready for the big new release. Genuine 15/70 IMAX: Accept no substitutes! John.
@@moviecollector5920 Aye Aye Captain! Acknowledged! We have some friends here, that are also excited for a great cinematic experience. These are the fellows that we experienced "Goonies" and "Jaws" with. So, I am sure, either I or our friends will point out a great IMAX presentation soon. I will let you know when that happens. As always, thank you for a great recommendation! Dmitri
Mesmerizing. Different to TENET a few weeks ago as it's a more conventional film but still spellbinding to experience as it was designed to be seen. Different to watching the 4K disc for sure. John.
Thanks for sharing your experience with such an incredible film, one of Nolan's top, alongside with Interstellar and The Dark Knight. A truly masterpiece.
All his films are different Juanjo. I still think TENET is the best simply because it is so convoluted and so much to look at in every frame. DUNKIRK is a bit more conventional but no less brilliant. INTERSTELLAR is his most commercial and most beautiful to look at. John.
It doesn't work anywhere near as well in any other format though Riccardo. To be fair, no film would be better in any other format as they're all sub-standard to genuine IMAX. I didn't appreciate it as much as I do now before last Thursday. John.
I work as a colorist. This is not an issue with my displays since there are all calibrated at a professional level, SDR & HDR. This flickering is happening on every Imax sequences. It's very subtle but I can assure it's there (It can be spotted on daVinci resolve oscilloscope). On 35mm & Super 35mm I've never seen this type of flickering without a specific tweak during the shooting. I was wondering if it was something Nolan was aiming for or if it was something normal when shooting in Imax 70mm.
@@spikewilliam Can't see it Spike and I won't be able to import the video into Davinci due to the copy protection. There is the rolling loop that makes IMAX work and is so kind to film but I can't tell you if that causes what you're seeing for sure. It's unique to IMAX so that would be the first place I'd look. I was scrutinizing the 4K of DUNKIRK again yesterday and any flicker was eliminated by turning off that pesky dynamic black function that never works properly on anything. John.
I used to go to cinemas across the USA and El Capitain probably captured my imagination the most. It was still an old world picture palace but with great sound to accompany the fine imagery we used to enjoy at just about every cinema every time. Those days are gone now. The Empire on Leicester Square, London was always my favourite picture house but that's now a cheapened multiplex and I don't think I'll ever be able to go in there again because I loved it so much before. It would be too much of a heartbreak. As a result, the BFI IMAX is now top dog over here and that's not only down to the design of the place but because they're still able to screen the best ever quality known to man and that has got me out of my home and back into a cinema regularly for the first time in over 15 years. They therefore get my vote as the number one here in the UK. Just imagine if the screen had tabs and motorized masking... it would be even better still. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yes that bfi is beautiful. I would love to see a movie on that 85 foot screen. Cinemark is our local cinema but it doesn’t have a imax theater. Have to travel about 20 miles to see a imax.thanks for your comment. I look forward to seeing your videos and the passion you have for movies and cinema 📽🎥🍿
@@4luvofmovies485 Be careful of the IMAX name now though because it's been applied to ordinary cinemas that are just video projecting 4K, and even sometimes 2K, video. If an IMAX hasn't got a 15/70 IMAX projector then it simply isn't IMAX as far as I'm concerned. Accept no imitations. John.
If you do ever get to see DUNKIRK in genuine IMAX I think you'll be able to pick yourself out even if you were one of those cardboard cutouts making up the troops queuing for a boat! John.
@@moviecollector5920 I'm only in it for about 10 seconds at the end when the soldiers are coming off the boats in Weymouth haha. Just a quick one John, I'm heading to Portsmouth at the end of the week and planning on going to hmv whilst I am there and hopefully going to do a 4k pick up video on my channel. I was wondering if you have any footage of the Portsmouth store. If not I could maybe get some footage of the store when I go there. Kind regards,Curtis
I was one of the lucky ones to grab a ticket to Melbourne IMAX to see Interstellar. There were only three individual tickets left in random spots throughout the cinema when I tried to purchase 10mins after going on sale! Never seen it in IMAX before, so I'm actually flying down from Sydney for this screening 😀
Keep a lookout for young Clark Teddles while you're there Tom. If you don't know Clark's channel then he's been shooting a lot of projection booth videos lately so worth looking up. John.
I'll see you there! I'm also travelling from Sydney to Melb's just to see this great film in 1570. should be fun. acquiring a ticket for that screening should be an Olympic sport.
@@ClarkTeddles fantastic! Also checked out your channel as per John's recommendation - easy subscribe. Almost certain I was at the Ritz the night you recorded the Lawrence of Arabia projection booth
@@tom_benson thanks for subscribing! I greatly appreciate it. Glad to hear you were at Lawrence of Arabia at the ritz. I’ll be going to a few of their upcoming 35mm screenings. Cheers
I believe you when you say the film reveals itself as a masterpiece when screened in 15/70 on an IMAX screen, John. This video is a masterpiece too. "... just to give us that human interest as we make our way into that glorious auditorium." *HILARIOUS.*
Truly large format film and screens do something that home theaters rarely achieve and that is envelope the watcher in visuals and sound in a way that takes you INTO the movie like nothing else can. I'm glad you can at least relay the experience. But alas it's like telling somebody what it is like sailing when they hadn't ever been.
Some also don't want to know how superior film still is to video Joseph so that's another issue. I haven't done much sailing but I know I'd love it if I ever did get the chance to learn the craft. John.
Make sure that's 15/70 though as it's going to be far superior to the excellent, outstanding standard 70mm prints. Maybe I'll see you at the BFI IMAX. Still got to sort out tickets myself though. John.
Dunkirk was terrific, and it was quite a theatrical experience even though I only saw it at one of the smaller digital IMAX theaters. I have all of Nolan's films on Blu-ray, though only Tenet on 4K, but even the Blu-ray of Dunkirk projected at home was a great watch. By the way, I really have enjoyed your cinema and video store visit videos!
The Nolan films are great on home video and particularly 4K. Nothing compared to the real thing though. If the video projection of the OPPENHEIMER trailer at the IMAX is anything to go by then I think I'll continue to just watch video projections at home. JVC video projectors are the best. D-ILA was a sensation when it first arrived here and probably still is. I'm glad you liked my cinema and video store videos. I enjoy making those more than the things shot at home. John
Most if not all IMAX screens are curved. Other than it just "feeling" more immersive for the audience, it also aids with the projection of the image onto the far sides of the screen, which reduces loss of sharpness, brightness and distortion.
Actually, I don't take much notice when I'm there but usually screens have a curve to them on such a scale. But I used a Sony action camera in there so it's a very wide angle lens on that particular camera. John.
@@Shinrya Okay, didn't realize that. I had always heard that for some regular cinema screens, a curve INWARDS is used to accommodate projector-lens distortions, but I didn't know they also curved outwards.
The Spitfire scenes are amazing Jeff. The sheer size of that film format means even a tiny 4K video projection ensures the VistaVision like effect whereby the quality of the master shrinks down for superior imagery on any other format. It would be interesting to see one of the 35mm prints because I expect they're stunning too. Won't compare to the real thing though which is what made this cinema visit so very special. John.
I find it so exciting when I know I'm going to see something special Alex. I don't bother with cinema any longer and haven't for years since the industry got together and agreed to dumb the quality down so that the world would think that video projection (labelled as 'digital' so we'd all think it was something new and special) in cinemas was superior. By the end of 2006 the quality was so awful that I hardly ever visited a cinema and a few more poor experiences in the years after that made me seek out and check that film prints were being screened before I ventured out. Genuine IMAX is out on its own and nothing else comes close. Seeing DUNKIRK all the way through in the format (I'd seen a pre-release promo reel at the BFI IMAX years ago) confirmed to me that I'd never really seen the film before despite having watched the 4K disc several times. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Wow! That’s dedication! Ringing up the cinema to check if the movie is been screened in film print! - 🤣👊🏽‼️ MASTERY! I bet they don’t get that once a month let alone everyday! Why have they done that? - made most of us think video / “digital” projection is superior?? Is it a cost and time think?? 🤷🏽♂️
@@amindformovies The project to foist video projection on us all was hatched in 2002 apparently. The industry collaborated and I suspect it was after George Lucas got away with the awful video projection of Attack of the Clones at the Odeon Leicester Square because the manager told me that I was the only person who complained the whole time that crap was on. He got me back to look at the 35mm print which was much better but still pretty much crap because the movie had been shot in lowly high definition. To get video projection in without complaints would take some dexterity so 35mm was downgraded and the films that I was seeing from the late 1990's were below par. They continued to get worse and in 2005/2006 I started giving up. A few more cinema visits in the years after this convinced me that it was all over and so I've only gone to see films in the last 15 years or so if I can be sure a genuine film print is running and not a 35mm print struck from a 2K or 4K computer master file. I believe I was caught out with the 70mm print of Death on the Nile because I've been told that was struck from the 4K video master which, if true, is an absolute disgrace. It didn't look as good as it should have done but there was a lot of green screen/blue screen in that film owing to the pandemic restricting location shooting. Genuine IMAX is still thankfully exactly that and that gets me off my backside in back into a theatre. These current IMAX adventures have put the thrill back into my cinema going and I just wish there were more of them. I still won't be going to any other cinemas who are just projecting 2K or 4K video so it's a short lived thing but wonderful to be able to go and see something of quality in a cinema again after all these years. John.
Graham I'm back. Sorry to have missed that screening at Imax Waterloo, too many friends to see while in UK. Having seen other films in true Imax I know how silly I was not to have tried harder to see a true cinematic event. Back in Mexico now but I will return to London in May and this time I hope they have more showings of any Nolan films which I won't miss. Sorry not to have seen you John. Keep telling us what's coming up and he'll or high water count me in.
I don't think the IMAX prints being screened in May are genuine IMAX films Graham but are blow-ups from 35mm and other formats. BATMAN BEGINS is one of them and I think INCEPTION is another. Won't be quite the same but still a treat to see a real film on a giant screen. Take a look at what's coming here: whatson.bfi.org.uk/imax/Online/default.asp?BOparam::WScontent::loadArticle::permalink=countdowntooppenheimer&BOparam::WScontent::loadArticle::context_id= If you can get over at the end of July or beginning of August then OPPENHEIMER should be something very special indeed. John.
PS after visiting fopp and various CEX stores plus HMV in Oxford,Manchester and White city I returned with my bags full of disks.And brought them all safely back with me.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes im going to be there i think and i have my sights set on Openheimer. Thanks for the link i see that June doesn't appear yet hope they have some Noland goodies then.
I understand you are a fan of projection and large screen experience but do you watch on a video screen ? Colour has to be superior on say a oled as does contrast
Television doesn't interest me. I watch UA-cam and a few top series from the past on a telly but that's it. It's not for movies as far as I'm concerned and hasn't been since video projection finally because adequate about 17 or 18 years ago. John.
Hopefully not too soon though. The sound on each one of his IMAX films has been so perfect that I wouldn't have wanted risking any distraction by the sound being chucked all over the place. I'm beginning to find films sound better with 5.1 but I expect 7.1 is just as good because Sony Dynamic Digital Sound was always impressive in cinemas and not too over the top. John.
I would love to have seen Dunkirk in IMAX. The scene at the end of the movie when 2 soldiers arrive at the train station was filmed in my home town. They filmed for 3 days and hired a lot of locals as extras. But they used hardly any of the footage. I think due to the fact that loads of screaming teenage girls turned up hoping to see Harry Styles🤬
Seeing movies on 70mm is such a treasure, sadly here in Finland it’s almost impossible. I do think that Nolan makes movies I only care too see once, for me they are extremely overlong and pretty boring really. Inception, Dunkirk, Batman trilogy, Interstellar - all lack emotion, at least for my taste. Great video and info again, thanks!
The only way to see these Nolan IMAX works of art and fully appreciate what the makers achieved is to see them in genuine 15/70 IMAX. I could see that DUNKIRK was a very good film but I didn't appreciate it as a masterpiece until last Thursday. You'll just have to fly over for OPPENHEIMER! John.
I live just a few kilometres away from Finland’s one and only imax-theatre, so I’m good with that. Will check that BFI theatre next summer when visiting London, for sure.
You can only see the full IMAX on a 15/70 IMAX film print Neil because that's what IMAX is. Anything else is a shrink down but it's still so very good on the 4K disc. That's the point to this. The genuine IMAX origination is what makes the 4K disc what it is i.e. one of the best 4K discs on the market. John.
I actually saw Dunkirk in both 15/70 and IMAX Digital on the same screen a week or so apart, and even apart from the aspect ratio the image quality just didn't feel the same. IMAX film has an organic quality you can't replicate, and being in a theater to see genuine IMAX film feels like a true luxury. I also just like the framing of films shot to protect for 15/70, that headroom really makes the image look huge. That said, as far as IMAX crops go this isn't the worst, as that extra information in the frame is sky or water, and thus pure headroom, much of the time. I think audio was the same, as doesn't sound for IMAX 70mm run off a CD or DVD anyway?
The sound is downloaded onto a computer at the IMAX. It will be identical between the faux IMAX video projections and the real McCoy 15/70. The difference in the image is about five or six times greater on the film prints if you break it down strictly into an estimate of what film represents with a computer equivalent video. Might be much more in reality but it's impossible to tell. John.
I understand studios crop the film to look better on home screen. But they need to start releasing the original ratio for the audience. I’m sure film lovers would happily pay extra money to watch their fav film as it was intended by the director. I still don’t get it why WB hasn’t released Dune in IMAX ratio.
The only way to see IMAX is in an IMAX cinema though and not those faux IMAX theatres who only have video projection. Accept no imitations. 1.78:1 is the best solution for the home though and as the cameras have the guidelines for the different formats nothing vital is accidentally eliminated. John.
ua-cam.com/video/EOelbWDrWqE/v-deo.html Hi John. Did you know that 2001 has now also been screened on 70mm IMAX? For the 50th Anniversary in 2018, Nolan arranged for an enlargement to be made. This actually played recently at The Science Museum, South Kens.
I have been aware of Christopher Nolan arranging re-prints of 2001 from a pre-restoration master David. This will probably still have dupe sequences in it as the original camera negative was apparently somewhat damaged beyond repair in a few places owing to so many 70mm prints being struck from it over the years. This explains why some sequences on the 4K disc don't look quite as good as the rest of it. It was the same with My Fair Lady but no one else seemed to notice. I know it wasn't really a Cinerama film but I want to see it on the Cinerama screen in Bradford because it was filmed to work best on Cinerama screens. Just a shame it wasn't a three-strip Cinerama but I don't suppose it would have been possible because the shoot was so complicated. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Ah, I actually managed to get to the recent Bradford Cinerama screening. It worked very well, with the curved screen creating what I can only describe as a 3D effect, or illusion of depth, what with the centre of the screen being further away than the left and right. But of course no need to wear intrusive 3D glasses! The 70mm print itself had some colour degradation and wasn't the best, but the quality actually improved as the film went on. The Stargate and Starchild both looked like good quality CGI despite me knowing they weren't, and this being an unrestored print. They really held up! Would loved to have seen the IMAX 70mm enlargement, but sadly couldn't make it on the date.
@@davidjames579 The IMAX enlargement will still be the same 2.20:1 ratio David so you're probably not going to get anything different other than a lot of unmasked screen area above and below. I think you've seen the ultimate iteration even if the print was a little faded for a few reels. The chances are that this was struck before the neg was overly damaged so it's possible you've seen the best any of us are ever likely to see. There's nothing quite like the Cinerama screen even if it's being filled by a single film strip rather than three of them as it was originally. They used specific lenses to make the deeply curved screen work when the astronauts go through doorways and things like that. In fact, thse lenses made it look almost like modern action cameras at times.
No comparison rhu. It's cheaper though and requires little ability to press the buttons. Film is different and so very superior in every respect. John.
To me Dunkirk is the best film he has made so far i really enjoyed it and this isn't my type of film that i would even watch it was filmed so well and a very engaging story. Another film again that isn't my type of film to watch but enjoyed so much is Greyhound again another engaging story that sucks you right into the film
While i saw this film in my local cinema ( a one off event for a friend of mine as I can't stand people talking etc.) I found the film somewhat underwhelming as a story, due to the way it was filmed. That's only down to my personal film tastes of course, but the sound level totally spoiled it for us, as it was turned up so much. I have never watched a film EVER, with my fingers in my ears, before or since. I thought Pink Floyds The Wall was loud in the Odeon in London, many years ago, but Dunkirk beat it hands down (or should that be ears in) I was convinced later that had I NOT put my fingers in my ears for most of the film, I would have damaged my hearing. I looked at the rest of the crowd (mostly older people like myself oddly) and they were mostly doing the same as we were. The scenes of rifles being fired were particularly piercing. I would be interested to 'hear' your thoughts on this aspect of theaters turning the sound up artificially, i.e. was it, or was it supposed to sound like that for this film?
Some cinemas do put the volume up too high so that would have been the error on the part of the cinema. It was loud at the IMAX but not overly loud and with the quality of their sound system, it probably wouldn't have killed all of us if it had have been much louder. Well, some of us would have walked out alive! But if DUNKIRK isn't in genuine IMAX then it's not the same as I found out last Thursday. Accept no imitations. John.
I'm afraid I couldn't get into Nolan's Dunkirk. I much preferred the 1958 film with John Mills. But I'd really like to see Interstellar in IMAX. Love Zimmer's score for the movie. If you look for 'making of INTERSTELLAR Soundtrack' on UA-cam the recording session in Temple church in London is very interesting.
Did you see DUNKIRK in genuine IMAX though because that's what makes the film what it is. Even a 35mm reduction print probably wouldn't do it anywhere near full justice. Wouldn't mind a 35mm print myself though! John.
@@moviecollector5920 No, I saw it at home on streaming. I'm sure the picture quality was poor compared to the cinema experience - but I just wasn't engaged with the characters. Also, I know that Nolan eschews CGI but I think this would have been one time it would have been justified to show the true scale of the evacuation.
@@neatodd I felt like I was watching British people as they used to be and accurately portraying how the soldiers would have been during the crisis at Dunkirk. The minimal dialogue suited it well and we knew everything we needed to know about everyone on screen. However, I didn't feel like that until I saw it last Thursday. I could see it was a very good film on the 4K disc but I didn't see it as a masterpiece which is how I now regard it. I was trying to make that point in this video but I probably fell short. The point is, if you get a chance to see it as it should be seen then grab the chance. John.
jvc and Sony 4k projectors with madvr will definitely be better than the imax presentation. also with 18inch subwoofer you can achieve ,better than imax sound in your home with chest kick and can feel ulf content. home cinema is so advanced now with hdr and big subwoofers. the best home setups will always beat the best of theaters.
No chance of matching the sound at the BFI IMAX and even less chance of current video projection standards getting anywhere near the real thing. Home video projection is amazingly good now and that's something to be seen to be appreciated at times but it can be a little depressing when you get to see the best image quality known to man with 15/70 IMAX film. Get to the BFI IMAX one day if you can but make sure you're seeing the real McCoy before you set out because many are fooled into thinking 4K video projection is IMAX when it should be called something like 'IMAX LITE'. John.
@@moviecollector5920 no, facts don't lie. the imax can only reproduce till 28hz,whereas in home you can easily reproduce bass till 10hz and have peak output of 130-135db easily. so you are missing a whole lot in commercial cinemas. commercial cinema speakers like jbl pro,qsc and meyer speakers are being used in home cinemas and have better sound and less distortion due to smaller space. you just have to experience good high end home cinema to feel it. the tactile bass and the spatial audio is way ahead of the imax cinema. since imax don't support spatial audio, you are missing a lot in some movies. For video you have to experience sony gtz380 and christie projectors with madvr. hdr video is vastly superior with more color volume and specular highlights. the very high highlights latitude of film can be fully utilized in hdr projection system. the Dolby cinema hdr projection has been considered as the best video quality in commercial cinemas due to hdr . in home you can achieve even higher brightness. Imax film projection has advantages of film look and feel, apart from that, everything is easily achievable in home nowadays. you just have to experience some high end cinemas to believe it. i also suggest you to upgrade your projector to native 4k high contrast projectors, so that you can appreciate the 4k film restoration discs, even better.
@@chandan6119 You're not likely to convince me there Chandan but I appreciate your enthusiasm. I gave up on cinema owing to the poor quality on offer so to see top quality again has rekindled my own enthusiasm. One of the problems with video projection is that it's usually too bright as there's nothing to diffuse the illumination. Film is so superior to all of it when it comes to 70mm that there really is no comparison. People used to say the sound at The Empire wasn't very good whereas it was the best I'd heard in the world up to the time it was butchered. I think we can be sure the BFI IMAX has surpassed it now but it's not the massive auditorium of the Empire so that has an effect in itself. Home cinema sound can be wonderful but not many of us will have a home cinema the size of the IMAX which is where a lot of the impact comes in. When we have our own THX up too loud here it's difficult to sit in the room so we have to compromise at times. At the IMAX it's even louder but doesn't have that same effect...well, not often anyway. Get to the BFI for OPPENHEIMER and see what you think of the sound on that. The image quality will blow any lowly 4K video projector into the weeds of course but that's to be expected and not a fair comparison. John.
@@moviecollector5920 ya ,without you experiencing a high end home cinema, it would be difficult for me to convince you otherwise. i agree ,regarding film superiority in resolution and feel ,since i am a cinematographer myself. the over bright issue of video projection is a thing of past, now with proper isf calibration and software's like madvr and can do realtime luminance analysis of each frame and gives you perfect hdr image with highlights rolloff similar to film. with high end projectors, you can really experience those in your home. ya I got it, why you feel home audio is inferior. without proper acoustics, sound level of just 60-70db would feel very loud and fatiguing in home cinema. but with proper acoustics you an easily achieve reference level sound (85db with 105db peaks)in home cinema and it does not feel loud or fatiguing. with proper acoustics ,you can experience that even in your room. you don't want the room to be big as imax cinemas to get the same impact. with spatial audio,high output subwoofers and proper acoustics, it is easily achievable. I am telling this after watching movies in real imax and liemax theaters. i used to travel 300kms,just to watch movies in imax, but now after installing a modern high end cinema, I am getting even better experience in home. commercial cinemas will always be a compromise, since it has to cater to large number of audience. in home cinema you will have the best seat and getting high impact sound is easier.
@@moviecollector5920 also, i am a big fan old 4k disc and own almost all 4k disc from ten commandments to new releases like pulpfiction. I suggest you to upgrade your projector to native 4k and you will really appreciate the difference in resolution and contrast.
I'd pay £100 for a show of this standard Marty. Okay, it would have to be a rare treat at that cost but it is so very, very special to see the best quality available to man today that I'd be prepared to pay for the privilege. John.
Really sucks in North America. I have the second biggest IMAX theatre in North America near my house, but they never have showings like this, only digital. And not even laser, only xenon digital. 92 feet by 72 feet screen just wasted in my opinion. Still unclear if they still have 15/70, but I recall hearing the manger saying he got rid of it. Really sad.
They must still have the film projector so it's possible they'll put it back into use for OPPENHEIMER. Video projection is wonderful now but nothing comes close to genuine IMAX. Accept no imitations! John.
@@moviecollector5920 It’s great to have you reply, there’s so little information on the theatre that it’s hard to find if they have anything. After quite a bit of research I found out about the screen size and found a video from 2013 with them playing 15/70 film. Hopefully they still have it and they’ll play Oppenheimer with it. It’s the whole reason why I want 15/70 film in that theatre.
@@mjibmichaeljacksoninblack8170 See if they have an email contact on their web site and ask them if they'll be screening OPPENHEIMER in 15/70 and if so when you can book tickets. That should get their interest. John.
The trailer for John Wick 4 was shown before DUNKIRK Gary. It rather put me off. And the image quality was poor but we are looking at an 85ft width so a little too much to expect from a video projection really. John.
@@moviecollector5920 watched 1917 today, really good movie and 4K disc. The “real “ human tragedy and death bother me a lot more than the John Wick cartoon violence.
@@garyharper2943 1917 was quite an achievement Gary so I'm pleased you enjoyed it. I've not seen any of the John Wick films and seeing the trailer to the fourth one at the IMAX has rather put me off seeing any of them now - well, for a while anyway. John.
Going to be seeing Oppenheimer with a friend in 1570 film in IMAX soon in Australia, Melbourne. Glad we still do 1570, more expensive that regular theatre. But gonna be totally worth it, so excited. Will be our first time seeing a film in IMAX also. Possibly the perfect movie to go with as our first.
Prepare for an awe-inspiring experience Nicholas. Cinema may be in terminal decline but every three years Christopher Nolan releases a cinematic event and this one may be like nothing we have ever enjoyed before... for those of us who are lucky enough to see it in the film presentation format known to man today. Some three-strip Cinerama fans may disagree but I don't regard that as a current format. If it were, I'd be up for debate about which is better. I hope you have a great time. Cinema will never be the same again for you.
John.
You're so lucky to live in the vicinity of the BFI IMAX.
It's still more than 100 miles away Andrew so it takes some planning because London is a no-go zone for private cars now. John.
@@moviecollector5920Ah.
Saw Dunkirk at the IMAX. A truly intense experience and IMO Nolan’s best film. The film is so disciplined in its time length and manages to do away with the schmultz and portray the closest to what soldiersare thinking in this situation… trying to survive. The audience I saw it with was silent at the end, and I remember leaving the auditorium and everyone was left silent. I only remember that I watched the best film of that decade.
We had a pretty good round of applause at the end of this screening. I think many of us in there were true film enthusiasts so we appreciated what went into projecting the film as much as anything. John.
Dunkirk is the best movie Christopher Nolan has ever created, because of the respect he gave the subject matter and how he filmed it (Back and Forth Cuts in time and IMAX).
Memento was the first movie I ever saw that he Directed, it showed me how special of a director/artist he is...because of the time changes in Dunkirk, it "Reminds" me of Memento.
I believe "Christopher Nolan" will go down as one of the Greatest Directors of all time...I know it subjective, but he is already in my top 5.
@@bobswanson8464 I need to get the Memento Blu-ray out for another spin Bob. As for Nolan being one of the greatest directors of all time, I'm appreciating him more and more as the years go by. Clint Eastwood, Ridley Scott, John Carptenter and possibly James Cameron are the other greats still with us that I can immediately think of. Oh, and Brian De Palma. No doubt as soon as I click the 'reply' button I'll think of a dozen more great directors. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Steven Spielberg is in my top five.
Entertaining movies and with many different styles/looks to the movies.
The list is long and incredible:
Columbo (1971 Directed the FIRST of the TV Seriers...NOT TV movies)
Duel (TV movie from the 70s...have you seen this???)
Jaws (First Summer blockbuster)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Raiders of the Lost Ark
ET
Poltergeist
The Color Purple (Robbed at the Oscars)
Jurassic Park (1993...)
Schindler's List (Amazing, also 1993)
Amistad
Saving Pr Ryan
Munich
Lincoln
Bridge of Spies
The Fabelmans (Loved this movie...magic)
And he was "Executive producer" for so many other movie:
Gremlins
Back to the future
Young Sherlock Holmes (First real CGI)
The Legend of Zorro
Men in Black
Transformers Movies
LONG List of GREAT Movies
***Would love for you to do "Your Top 5 Director" Review.
@@moviecollector5920 To my shame, I did not know the name "Brian De Palma".
Looked him up, he directed SO Many great movies.
The Fury
Blow Out
Scarface
The Untouchables
Carlito's Way
Mission: Impossible
Mission to Mars
Now that I see his movies listed, I can see his "Style" in a good portion of his movies.
I’m so jealous, I need to see a film on 70mm imax just once in my life. I’m hoping when Interstellars 10th anniversary comes up they’ll bring it back to IMAX in the states!
Check all the genuine IMAX theatres for the coming months Israel because a few of the IMAX capable cinemas are dusting their prints off. John.
Wow this certainly looks like a terrific experience at the BFI. I'm gutted I couldn't make it but thank you for filming the atmosphere of the evening so I could get a sense of the place. Great work as usual John.
It's one of the few remaining cinemas that can tempt me away from my home cinema to see a film Jay... mainly because they're screening a film and because the image quality is so superior to what I can achieve here which is how things should be at a cinema and what we've largely lost since the industry replacement of film with video. What a catastrophic error that's proved to be. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hii, do you know of any 70MM IMAX theaters which screen Nolan's old movies time and time again?
My new favourite UA-camr ❤, love to see your viewing setup
I hope to be able to get the home cinema finished very soon Lord Baelish. About 15 months ago I made some videos about putting it together following our move at the end of 2021 and we're still largely in the same situation with it today as it really needs a professional builder to put the necessary holes in the walls for projection portholes and other things.
John.
Thanks for dropping into my work place. There's always a buzz whenever we show 15/70mm prints and I'm glad we kept the projector after the refurb. Interstellar has already sold out so those screenings are gonna be amazing. Can't wait to experience the Dark Knight films which I've still yet to witness projected from 15/70. The projection booth is a cinephile's dream space.
Thank you for keeping film alive and proving to the world how superior it still is Tom. I'll be back for INTERSTELLAR before OPPENHEIMER hits the screen. If you didn't see my video of TENET then I think I hopefully got the best coverage of the projection booth so far. John.
Great video I saw Dunkirk at the BFI imax last night it was the best cinema experience I ever had
Wait until you see INTERSTELLAR, it's even more impressive. TENET is probably the best looking of the genuine IMAX films so far. That one simply has too much to be able to watch it as a film so you just sort of look at it and try to take as much in as you possibly can.
John.
Dunkirk is a masterpiece because it is all in the editing - the way the film comes to the final shot of Tom Harry’s character saving the day is epic. Best shot of the film is when the explosions in the sand go off and the main character is cowering in fear.
Obviously the film utilise the IMAX ratio and some the shots are wide the angles in the film are incredible).
I watched Dunkirk on the IMAX in Manchester Printworks. So epic.
The Manchester IMAX gets incredible feedback on here Clark so you saw it at one of the best. Well done. I think there is only about 15 minutes in DUNKIRK that was shot standard 70mm so the rest of it is real McCoy IMAX and none of that shot on video but passed off as IMAX nonsense. Most of the time they'd get better results from full frame 35mm than video so why don't they do that... oh, Zack Snyder actually did for Justice League and people on here thought it was the real thing.
John.
That is. Beautiful theater. Sounds like it was good in movie theater.Thanks John
It was one of those rare cinema experiences that will never be forgotten Craig. Quite a few of my top cinema memories have been in the BFI IMAX but only when they're screening a real IMAX film. John.
I went to see rouge one at the london science museum and they screened a 7 miniute preview of Dunkirk on 15/70. Well at that moment i devided that i ABSOLUTLY HAVE to watch dunkirk in TRUE IMAX so i did... i Saw dunkirk in 15/70 at the science museum. It was the best movie experience of my life. Have booked oppi in the BFI and looking forward to it.
True imax is something special. Im so glad the bfi didnt decommission their film projector during the refurbishment.
Fortunately the BFI has managed to retain their interest and enough knowledgeable people that appreciate the importance and superiority of film so we should be alright there for some time to come. I saw that Rogue One and Dunkirk preview but at the BFI. One of the most memorable cinema visits ever due to that Dunkirk extract. I thought the Stuka was going to kill us all so it was a relief when the extract abruptly finished just before the bomb hit. Flying with the spitfires is more real in that great IMAX film than actually flying with spitfires. TENET is the best image quality I have ever seen in any cinema but INTERSTELLAR has twice been the most impactive cinematic experience I've ever had. I've seen movies shot on video and movies video projected on the giant IMAX screen and they've all got one thing in common and that is that they're all forgettable. A genuine IMAX film lives in the memory forever. Enjoy OPPENHEIMER.
John.
Update. Saw oppenheimer at the bfi last weekend. Amazing presentation. I will definitely continue to watch anything released in 1570.
I feel so lucky to have 2 true imax venues so close to me in London
@@nopy99 And both the IMAX cinemas are absolutely brilliant. Most people don't know what the difference is and even that the Ronson in the Science Museum even exists but what an amazing venue that is. You get to walk past JET1 on the way through and cars don't come much more important than that one in the annals of British motoring history. A Rover jet engined car that was intended for mass production - incredible! Glad you enjoyed OPPENHEIMER. There is nothing else quite like IMAX or OMNIMAX. John.
Dear John, Thank you for this work.. We have only digital IMAX in Poland.. I'm so jealous
I'm glad you're making your own YT channel. I love listening to you.
I'm 24 years old and I love cinema. and thanks to you I learned a lot about the cinema, its history and what a special place it is..
it is also a beautiful year where the history of cinema was celebrated with such films as The Fabelmans and Babylon both shot on a great 35mm
Aha, if Babylon was shot 35mm Henrik then I'll be taking a look at that. I looked at a few of the former cinemas I used to go to often when cinema was special back in the 1980's and 1990's and I saw the poster for Babylon but didn't know anything about it. The Fabelmans didn't draw me to a cinema to see it because it's being video projected everywhere so I might as well wait and see it at home. Probably the same with Babylon but at least with them being 35mm shoots we'll know the 4K discs will be good. Sorry you missed cinema in its heyday but if you can wangle a trip to London when OPPENHEIMER is on at the BFI IMAX then you'll get a very good idea of what every week was like with a new, top quality film going into one of our best cinemas every week. Exciting times and I miss those days. We will never quite see the like of it again but these genuine IMAX films are even more special so it's been like going back in time for me. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes Babylon is 35mm on IMDB there is information and Chazelle talked about it in an interview
Yes. I wish VOD wasn't so popular and more people go to the cinema. I would also like to see movies from the 70s and 80s on the big screen in the cinema
not long ago I bought myself Braveheart 95'.. fantastic 4K scan..
I'd like to see A Bridge Too Far at the cinema
Yes. Unfortunately, there are only Digital IMAX in Poland
Have you had a chance to watch Cienarama.. projections?
Sorry for my English. Regards, and thank you for your work. plz make video from premier of OPPENHEIMER in BFI :)
@@PwewX460 I saw a modern reproduction of Cinerama at Futuroscope in the early 1990's but I really need to get up to Bradford to see the real deal. I tried last October but the Pictureville weren't exactly responding to my emails so that made it all rather difficult. In the end I gave up trying to speak to anyone up there but I'll try again next year.
As for getting to the premier at the BFI IMAX, I do hope that the premier is there and there is some way I can get a pass to shoot some video on the night.
John.
I saw this at a true IMAX theater and I did think it was truly amazing. There is 1 scene in the movie that I just thought was the best scene in the movie. The scene of the Spitfire gliding over the beach. You can see the plane from slightly above with the beach lower in the screen. It's right before he lands the plane and burns it. I just truly thought that was some of the best cinematography I can ever seen.
At the IMAX the scene from the Spittie above when Tom Hardy has the cockpit open looked completely real and yet on the 4K disc it looks like a green or blue screen of two IMAX elements optically transposed together. It loses some of its beauty. But in the real deal, full Monty, genuine, never surpassed, head honcho, numero uno, big cheese genuine IMAX it looked convincingly natural and had me questioning how on earth they got the shot. Interesting that we both picked up on the serene beauty of that one sequence Stephen. I expect many others have though.
John.
I saw Dunkirk in theaters with another Army friend and whole time those guys were carrying the stretcher we were both thinking "PT, PT, PT!" (Stands for physical training). We had been doing relays on a track and grass carrying people in stretchers. To watch those guys carrying one through all that sand... was almost exhausting to watch!
Good point. It would have been difficult enough without the Germans dropping bombs on you too. Just as well Hitler threw one of his tantrums otherwise the onslaught would have been even worse than it was. John.
@@moviecollector5920 It seems like Hitler's pride and or emotions inhibited the German war effort in multiple ways. Also I want to thank you, John, for the shout out the other day. It seems like a handful of nice people have come over to visit me.
@@MyFireVideos Hitler did also have a bit of an affinity for Britain as a soldier towards the end of WWI let him live when he really should have shot him. I don't think he ever forgot that but when the French and British collapsed back to Dunkirk, if he'd have closed the net fully then today the whole world might well be speaking German.
I'm glad some new people have found their way over to you. I think many film enthusiasts appreciate someone who can present a film discussion in a calm, thoughtful manner rather than trying to sound 'cool' and shouting too much possibly because they're a little too self conscious when in front of camera.
This evening we're watching the new 4K of Training Day. I've never actually seen it before. Too many movies, not enough time!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Training Day! I was working at the movie theater when that came out so I saw it in 35mm. I don't think I've seen it since. I'll be curious to hear your thoughts. Other random thought: I just reviewed 1963's cleopatra and the aspect ratio on the dvd and the HBO max stream are both different. I'd be curious your thoughts on my quick review and what aspect ratio you would prefer.
@@MyFireVideos I didn't see Training Day at the cinema so my thoughts are that people have got used to how it looks on DVD and Blu-ray and therefore think the 4K is a change whereas I feel it's more likely to be representative of how it looked on 35mm. I might be wrong but to me the Blu-ray looks like a video that's been enhanced so that it won't have complaints about being too dark from home video viewers who didn't know any better. I think Cleopatra was a 65mm shoot for 70mm release and should therefore be among the best quality on Blu-ray. 70mm has an aspect ratio of 2.20:1 unless an Ultra Panavision lens or something similar has been used to squeeze it up for a wider image of around 2.77:1.
Wow! That’s a beautiful movie theater!
Yes, probably the best around now. The Empire after the 1989 refit was top dog but that was split into a multiplex eight or nine years ago so vacated its numero uno position. John.
Hi John! Thanks for these videos! Time I bought Dunkirk 4k and got caught up it's one that must be so good it rarely drops in value. Looking ahead I do see Oppenheimer scheduled but no other Nolan titles yet. YET lol I'm still hopeful and will be ready to spring when/if they announce screenings. Meanwhile your videos do an exceptional courtesy in bringing me as close to the action as one can so again gratitude and glad you had a great time.! many cheers to you guys across the way Dave !
Closer to the release of OPPENHEIMER it's possible IMAX cinemas around the world will stick one or two of the previous NOLAN IMAX films on. I suppose it depends on if they have the prints stored there on platters or not. Keep an eye on it Dave. John.
I love hearing about your IMAX adventures! I'm glad to own the 4Ks of these movies for the best at home experience possible. I wonder if anyone has ever had a 70mm theater at their house. I know some famous people like Quinton Tarantino have 35mm projectors.
I know a few film collectors with 70mm at home. One chap in the USA even had a three-strip Cinerama setup in his home. I think another did in Australia. John.
@@moviecollector5920 that would be so fun to have a film night. I'd love to see your setup too!
@@MyFireVideos I'm hoping to get this setup finished soon. Or at least, something I'm happier with than I have been since we moved in over a year ago. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I hope you'll give us an update!
It's so refreshing to hear thoughts on true cinema... and yeah, I've got a 10ft screen, 4k Sony PJ with 11.2 surround all tweaked professionally... however, for SHEER ENTERTAINMENT you cannot beat cinema... I've not been to one of these special showings, I live in North Wales and go the normal IMAX whenever I can BUT for me, the sound is never configured right and is deafening at Broughton... from what you're saying here, you've got a truly configured IMAX cinema... and for that I'm jealous... Dunkirk for me was reference quality 4k disc that blew me away in my own cinema room... I can only dream of what it was like watching it there. Thanks for the review, really appreciated.
I'm not aware of a genuine IMAX cinema in Wales Mark so what you're seeing there is a 2K or 4K video projection. To see IMAX it does require a trip to one of the few purpose built theatres that have managed to retain their film projector and the requisite projectionist to go with it. The BFI IMAX is the premiere IMAX in the UK so worth a trip up the M4 for a genuine 15/70 IMAX show. OPPENHEIMER is out in July and my recommendation for that one is to accept no imitations because there really isn't anything that comes close to the real McCoy, true, genuine IMAX film. Configuration isn't applicable because it's film projection, albeit with sound from a hard drive that gets a timecode from the film to stay in sync.
The 4K disc of DUNKIRK isn't really reference quality because it's only as good as it is because it was shot genuine IMAX. All that quality shrinks down to provide us with superior quality on 4K disc but it's not really got anything to do with the disc, it's all about how it was shot. TENET is even better and INTERSTELLAR isn't far behind either. THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is up there too. The basic rule of thumb is that any 4K disc that is a movie that originated on large format film will be among the best of 4K discs. The bigger the film format the better it should be. Kenneth Branagh's Murder on the Orient Express was shot 65mm for 70mm release and is probably the best I've seen but DUNKIRK and the other IMAX films mean they come from even larger image area film than a standard 65mm shoot. Worth keeping a look out for large format films on 4K because they're the best quality you'll see. There are a few movies shot on video that have proved it's getting there though.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hi John, no it's not a 15/70 IMAX... they advertise as IMAX experience just like a multitude of these all over the country but it's not the full experience at all. However it does have the larger screens etc and allegedly although I'd argue "Remote Monitoring24x7x365 for optimal performance" hahaha so it's a far better experience than "standard cinema" but yep, it's nothing like you are getting there. Where I'm saying on our cheapo IMAX is that the sound is overbearing i.e.. it's always simply too loud, every single person states the same that I know who goes there so they need to amend that sound and what it's doing. i.e. I don't believe that it's configured properly within the theatre... it's like they've hit the loud button so everything becomes too brash... I remember seeing Skyfall at iMax and it was just noisy (although I know it wasn't filmed with iMax cameras, it was an upscale I believe to iMax format? but might be wrong here)
As for reference I mean (i.e. it is top of the top for the home video format i.e. 4k), I'd argue slightly here. If you have a 35mm film negative, this can scan into digital nicely up to around 16-25k digitally because that 35mm film does contain that much detail... but we generally don't do that. At max I see we scan at intermediates of 4k, 6k or 8k ( e.g. I think original blade runner was re scanned at 8k and I believe that Casablanca which looks outstanding for it's time was scanned at 16 bit 16k?) because that level of information exists on the film negative... it's whether we choose to scan at that level?...
... so in fact you could have, in my opinion, a fantastic pristine 35mm negative that could, when scanned at 16k and then downscaled onto a 4k disc give stunning picture quality to match anything at 70mm on the ? Would this not be as good as a 70mm iMax scanned film at 16k and then transferred onto a 4k? Simply from a pure detail point of view, as both of those film formats can contain WAY more "information" than a 4k image gives when scanned anyway?
I do agree though Dunkirk looked sensational, although Tenet for me, looks false on 4k (and is an appalling film, never liked it personally) and Interstellar like you state is a classic although that on 4k disc isn't clean like Dunkirk and Tenet... it's a completely different picture style that can in place look grimy which isn't a criticism however it's filmed that way. Be fantastic though to see Interstellar on 15/70 iMax... bet you can't wait.
However on the big screen obviously a projector showing 15/70 this would be a completely different ball of wax. I'd love to go to that true iMax, hell of a trip for me as i'm in North Wales unfortunately
@@MrPugheaven The general consensus seems to be settling on around 6K for 35mm but that still wouldn't match up to the original owing to the random grain and diffuse light you get from 35mm that is not possible to replicate in a computer format. However, the limiting factor is how the film looked originally and a lot comes down to the different film stocks, lenses used for the shoot and the approach taken by the cinematographer. When it comes to 70mm and 15/70 IMAX it's so superior to any of the present video formats that those films inevitably create the best 4K video discs. VistaVision, Technirama and a whole lot of other large film formats achieve similar end results on 4K discs because they're so superior to what can be achieved today with video cameras that it means that these films shot decades ago look better than what film makers are achieving today... with the exception of 70mm and genuine IMAX.
Ask to speak to the manager of your local cinema and tell him the sound is too loud. If enough complaints come in then something will be done about it. Many cinemas turn the volume knob up to 11 and not just for screening 'This Is Spinal Tap'!
@@moviecollector5920 Hi John, you got me in the mood and I slapped this on at home Sunday and watched in cinema room... my god the soundtrack to this is perfection... it's not even a musical score it's just sound but it's soooo effective... and as a film it's a 10/10 without a doubt!!! That picture is sublime, certainly one of the top 4k discs available... it's as good as we'll ever get at home without a doubt. .. on another subject... Nolan and no DTS:X or ATMOS ... talk about a film that would benfit... and yet he still doesn't bother... very very odd decision from him!
@@MrPugheaven And it's even better in the real McCoy 15/70 IMAX Mark. It was like watching the film all over again for the first time, if that makes any sense at all. An amazing experience... and the same with TENET which is something else again. John.
Hi John! I'm timetravelling again having just finally been able to order this 4k for 15cdn so looking forward to seeing the film after all this time. Our Imax in Langley has Oppenheimer back on but to date no other Nolan films yet. Most reviews are consistant with Dunkirk 4k being excellent quality... Take care all the best D in BC!
I think DUNKIRK is better image quality than OPPENHEIMER overall Dave but I haven't done a direct comparison. It's likely better because it's all shot outdoors and as a result has more light coming in through the lens to generate superior image quality. I also think it's a film that's better suited to the IMAX 15/70 and standard 70mm format because it's an action film rather than a drama. I hope you have a great time with it. Oh, and here's a clue to comprehending the multi-angle, multi-timeline nature of DUNKIRK: there are three captions near the start and each denotes one of the three timelines which vary from one week to one day to one hour. It's all then mixed up into one story that gets seen from two or three perspectives but are the same sequences from different angles at different times during the film. A lot of people get confused by that so hopefully this will help your comprehension of what is happening.
John.
Hi John! wow my Dunkirk copy just arrived with a blu ray in a 4k case with funny shrink wrap lololo omg my first Amazon mishap so I will have to wait a bit more as they say they will ship out the 4k. I'll get there eventuallly lol ... hope you are well over there meantime and my best D in BC!!@@moviecollector5920
I was at this screening of "Dunkirk" in IMAX 15/70mm. (You can see me at 4:07 moving my bag and coat for the couple). Came down from Birmingham, just to see this in IMAX 15/70mm. And I couldn't agree more; watching a film in this format is an absolute life-changing experience for any film fan. Let alone, watching a film on print in this day and age is just extraordinary. Digital could never beat watching a film on print for me. Just seeing the grain on the footage, gives it that nice authentic feel, that you could never get with a digitally projected image. And if you're sitting near the back, like I was, you get that beautiful faint sound of the projector doing it's work, during the dialogue moments of the film. Plus, it just has more clarity and depth too. I'm always attending the 35mm screenings at The Electric in Birmingham, when I can. And I will be attending the rest of the films in the "Christopher Nolan On Film" season, at the BFI IMAX. I can't wait!
If you're the person in the second row from the back then you were sat next to us. It's a small world. As for video projection not coming up to film, it has got a lot better but it's still not quite got the life of film. The trailers before the film were sub-standard by comparison but it is only 4K so we shouldn't expect too much. I hope the video projections of OPPENHEIMER around the world are better to look at than the trailer though. Whilst the trailer is excellent, the image quality is poor compared to genuine IMAX film. Very poor in fact. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes, that’s me! And I did notice your ticket in the video, and realised that you must have been sitting next to me. That’s so cool. It is indeed a small world. And yeah, I couldn’t agree more with the comparison between the 4K trailers, and the overall (approximately) 12 - 18K resolution of the IMAX 70mm footage, of the film itself. It just does not compare. And I’ll be honest, I don’t think digital projection will ever come close to that kind of clarity. It certainly won’t ever have the authentic feel of the grain, or the slight jitter of the frames going through the projector. Digital images can be slightly enhanced by being transferred to print like 35mm, because I did go and see the new “All Quiet On The Western Front” recently in 35mm. And it was improved by having the grain, and the authenticity of celluloid. But, of course, it didn’t quite have the depth and clarity to the colours, like it would if it was also shot on film. But I would still prefer a digital image transferred to print, over digital projection any day. And I will admit, when the IMAX intro came up before the “Oppenheimer” trailer, I thought it was actually going to be a preview of the film. As Nolan has always done that with his films, within months before release (e.g. The Dark Knight prologue). But hey, just a trailer, I guess, haha. It is a shame though that it didn’t at least utilise the 1.43:1 aspect ratio. I would have loved to have at least seen a sneak peek of what the film will look like in full-frame IMAX. I hope you both enjoy the rest of your week, and keep up the amazing work. All the best from Eden :)
@@viciouscobrafilms8194 35mm is probably around the equivalent of 6K but with the addition of random grain and superior colour and density so it's hard to put a figure on it. IMAX is getting on for ten times the size so I think the video projector manufacturers should be aiming for a minimum of 20K if they ever want to get up to the mark but even then, it's not going to have the reality of film so perhaps they should scrap the whole video project, leave it as it is as a bit of a sub-standard but perfectly adequate for most people solution and get back to developing film and its exhibition. A pig has just flown past the window!
Shame we didn't speak last Thursday. You did step on my toes though! Okay, I made that last bit up!!!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yep, I definitely think they should just do that. Just stick to their 15/70mm projection, for as long as they can. But I’m sure, as long as there are celluloid enthusiasts like you and me, print film will hopefully continue to thrive for the years to come. And I will be attending that third screening of “Interstellar”, you mentioned in the video, so if I see you around for that. I’ll be sure to say hello. I’m on row G for that one. I’ll be at the “Inception” screening, the weekend after, and then “The Dark Knight Trilogy” all-nighter in June. All the best from Eden :)
@@viciouscobrafilms8194 I'd like to see THE DARK KNIGHT RISES but I'll have to wait to see how the finances are going because it costs hundreds of pounds every time owing to the inflated cost of an overnight hotel room due to them all being practically full owing to the amazing levels of tourism in central London now and also the government taking so many of the rooms and filling them up. What a bummer! I'll see you at INTERSTELLAR though... bought the ticket so now just have to work out how to get there for 11.30am on a Sunday without it costing hundreds again. John.
Oh god John is back ...i love it ! -lloking forward to the next Nolan feature :)
The trailer for OPPENHEIMER suggests we're in for something a little different this time Jacob... nothing new there then because every one of his IMAX films have been different after the Batman films. John.
@@moviecollector5920 love to see one of those in IMAX one day - we Got a cinema here in Copenhagen that can show IMAX - but i doubt its the same caliber as the one you Got in London :)
@@JacobHeldt If it's not capable of screening the real McCoy 15/70 Jacob then plan your trip to London for OPPENHEIMER! See you there! John.
That’s so cool! Thank you for taking us along with you. Here in the USA we really don’t have many authentic film IMAX theaters and trying to find information online is worthless around here 😂 We can experience them through your excitement! 🎥
There are still plenty of genuine IMAX cinemas in the USA but I think that standard cinemas using the name when all they have are video projectors is causing some confusion. The Washington Dulles IMAX at the Udvar Hazy Air & Space Museum still have genuine 15/70 IMAX when I was there a few years ago. I didn't go in the cinema but it was still screening film and if I'd have had the time, I'd have been in like a shot. Email the original, purpose built IMAX theatres because there are going to be prints of OPPENHEIMER distributed to them and I hope it will be a big event for each genuine IMAX. John.
John, another fantastic video. I will have to go and see a film there. I can only imagine what Dunkirk looked like on that screen. If you could see any film there, would would it be?
It's got to be a genuine IMAX film Andrew because I have seen 35mm blow-ups and however good it is to see a film at 85 feet wide, when you know what the real McCoy looks like then anything else is a little disappointing. OPPENHEIMER is coming so I think you should start planning a London visit to coincide Andrew. John.
Wow, looks like a gorgeous cinema. I’ll have to remember to see something there if I ever visit London.
Anything will be impressive due to the width of the screen Sean but genuine IMAX film is what makes it a really special place to see a film. OPPENHEIMER is coming so perhaps see if you still have a purpose built IMAX anywhere with the capability for the real deal 15/70 film prints. There's nothing else quite like it and never has been actually. John.
Fantastic review and loving the IMAX coverage, it truly is my favourite cinema - Was very lucky to see Interstellar for the second time at the Bfi IMAX and it was even better than I remember it - I'd never noticed you could hear the projector humming in the background until you mentioned it in this video, and it made it even more special that I could notice that this time round!!
I'm going to the screening on the 23rd Marcus and this time I'll be right at the back whereas nine years ago I was right at the front so it may not have quite the same impact as it did but I'm really looking forward to seeing INTERSTELLAR again as it should be seen despite having watched it two or three times on 4K disc in my own home cinema. There is nothing like genuine IMAX. Being at the back, I'll be able to hear the projector occasionally too which makes it more like cinema as it used to be but even better because 15/70 is the best resolution exhibition format man has ever invented. John.
Dunkirk is on the same level as 2001. Crazy to witness. It's simplicity is its genius.
I don't think I disagree with you there A A. While I think TENET is the most impressive work of art, no one else understands it whereas DUNKIRK is far more conventional and easy to follow... and look at for that matter. John.
Thanks so much for this again, John. I was lucky and fortunate enough that the only showing of this I caught in 2017 was in 15/70mm IMAX. Haven't gotten the 4K disc yet, for some odd reason or another, but will immediately rectify that.
It's one of the best 4K discs that I've seen Nicholas. I'm not sure if it's been knocked off the spot I gave it in my Top Ten 4K video about a year ago but irrespective of that, it's still absolutely fabulous. John.
No IMAX screenings here in Belgium of Nolans previous works. I really have to make a trip to London .
Keep an eye on this page of the BFI IMAX web site for any Nolan genuine IMAX film announcements. Only the Batman all-nighters apart from The Dark Knight on its own but that only had a few short sequences in the real McCoy so not quite up to the levels of TENET. But OPPENHEIMER is coming soon so that's probably the one to aim for.
John.
Hi John,
Great video! really enjoying these IMAX 1570-based videos, perhaps you'll make one for Interstellar? I very much like this series of comparing the 4K disc to your 1570 BFI experience.
Greatly appreciate you mentioning me at the end. I'm very looking forward to seeing a 1570 presentation, it'll be something truly special!
Cheers,
Clark
There's a chap going to see INTERSTELLAR at the Melbourne IMAX which must be the same showing you got tickets to Clark. I should have saved his name for you so if he replies to me again I'll give you a pointer.
I'm getting a renewed appreciation for these genuine IMAX films after seeing TENET and now DUNKIRK. How will I ever accept any less after seeing them projected to such perfection? It takes something special to get me back to a cinema nowadays and these two showings are among the best cinema visits I've ever had. Two of the top three probably and the third of those is INTERSTELLAR at the same cinema in 2014.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I've found the person who also travelling from Sydney to Melbourne to see it in this comment section, there's a small chance I'll see him.
I think it makes it even more of an event because of the fact you're getting that extra expanded imax ratio, content that cannot be found anywhere other than imax 70mm or 4K laser.
Cheers,
Clark
@@ClarkTeddles The sheer size of each frame of IMAX I think means more light gets in through the camera lens and each enormous 24fps exposures results in better image quality than anything else. Even if it was masked off to 1.90:1 or something like that, it would still be so much more special than anything else. You're going to have a great time Clark. John.
Cannot wait to see interstellar here in a couple of weeks! Have managed to resist watching it for the last couple of years just so that I could see it specially in an IMAX again - and where better than the BFI.
If that's the 23rd April showing Samuel then I'll see you there. John.
This is one of those movies that I'm glad to have seen it once but I really have no desire to see it again. That said, I would jump at the chance to see it on IMAX.
And that's exactly the point Henri because it's just not the same film in any other format. Genuine IMAX for this one was a revelation. John.
With digital players - digital media - digital displays we are very lucky today.
Great you're reminding us of film!
Video projection is exceptionally good today SAINT, no doubt about that. But nothing touches 15/70 IMAX... or standard 70mm for that matter. Video is always improving though so one day maybe film will be surpassed. Doesn't look like it will be any time soon judging by the stark superiority of genuine IMAX from 2017. John.
John, if you know anyone who fancies a ticket for Interstellar this weekend, I’ve got one for sale potentially. I didn’t realize it’s marathon weekend and getting to public transport will be a pain where I live. Decent seat, back row, middle seating.
I didn't know it was this Sunday either Jim. That might cause a few problems for people but hopefully public transport won't be on strike or anything stupid. Can the ticket be returned to the box office? If not, we really need to get you in touch with someone who would like it. Are you sure you can't get there? We plan to hang around after the show so maybe quite a few of us will and we can have a bit of a film enthusiasts gathering. Perhaps to to the Wellington pub for a drink and a snack which is just the other side of the roundabout under the railway bridges. Transport shouldn't be messed up by the time we're all finished.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 We’ll see. I’ve got quite a bit of back pain at the moment so I’d rather not have to walk very far which is the problem. I’m not sure how early I’ll have to leave to escape Wapping in time to miss the crowds and get on public transport. If you know anyone who wants a ticket and will give me my money back, let me know. I need to work out how best to get there on screwed up public transport.
@@jim_herd Back problems Jim.... feeling rather the same at the moments but nothing's completely gone so far. See how you feel on Sunday if something can't be sorted out with your ticket. I hope to do a UA-cam video tomorrow but something else always gets in the way at the moment. I'll try to mention that someone may have a spare ticket for the big show on Sunday if I do get something recorded.
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Dunkirk has to be seen in genuine IMAX to be fully appreciated. But the 4K disc is pretty darned good too. John.
I saw it in 70mm with masking and DTS sound it was amazing it was so loud the theater was shaking it felt like we were there the gun shots made you ears ring it was great!!!!
70mm is the best format for seeing a movie Josh... other than the 70mm genuine IMAX that is. I really did notice the superiority over standard 70mm film this time and I need to look into the reasons for that a little more. John.
@@moviecollector5920 dunkirk is the only 70mm movie i remeber seeing we had to drive 3 hours to see it that way a few years ago. As far 15/70 imax I have only ever seen the Dark night rises in that formart. I wish I could see move but they don't offer film where I live just Digital they conver in 2012. I like Film better but digital looks better here in my town because they always had so many problems back in the 35mm days at our theaters they were always out of focus or dim. Now run right I would rather have film every time with DTS sound or the sound on a compter uncompressed. With masking ofcourse. Digital has killed the masking and framing of movies and giveing use ugly gray bars on the top and bottom.
@@JunkerDC Showmanship has all but died in cinemas today but there are still some. Fortunately some also still have film projection capabilities which means the best quality available can still be seen occasionally. 35mm isn't particularly difficult but if the person doing it isn't interested then it can still be a bit of a disaster. What you largely have today is people who can press buttons so masking is a bit of an inconvenience too far because that would mean another one or two button presses. As for tabs, no one would understand why anybody would prefer to look at some beautiful curtains rather than a blank screen!
1:00 I wonder if the 70mm non-IMAX scenes for Interstellar will also be cropped and zoomed. I would personally prefer if they were left untouched at 2.20:1 to minimise the loss in quality and retain the full frame. But I could see how the switching between 1.43:1 and 2.20:1 could be a bit weird.
I was sat right at the very front, far right for INTERSTELLAR back in 2014 so it was a bit awe-inspiring that close and although my recollection has been that the 70mm scenes were 2.20:1 I now wonder if they were zoomed up to minimize the jarring of the aspect ratio switch. Maybe it was as a result of INTERSTELLAR the optical zoom compromise was adopted. I guess we'll find out soon. And the BFI have added an extra INTERSTELLAR show so it will be interesting to see how quickly that one sells out.
John.
2:07 AFAIK in a dark room that "HDR Setting" option should always be left turned off to retain the creative intent and accuracy of the HDR and should only be increased if the picture is too dark in a bright room. But I have an OLED TV and not a projector so maybe it's different.
Generally my telly has the same problems with HDR Roland but all our systems are different and in particular, mine are both setup to replicate the look of film as closely as possible. Most have them setup too bright and with exaggerated colour which is not my preference so I suppose my interpretation of HDR will possibly mean I find it too bright compared to the majority of others. I grew up with film you see whereas most of us have only known video.
John.
Hi John! Great video! I tried booking tickets for Interstellar but just missed out, luckily I checked again 20 or so minutes later and there was a third showing, which I've booked up! I'm so excited! See you there. 😃
Make sure you find me before or after James. I think we might have quite a group of us at that showing which should make for a good time having a bunch of us film nuts all together in what has got to be the top film venue in the UK. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks John! Will do. I can't wait.
I'm very happy to hear this. I wasn't lucky enough to see DUNKIRK on IMAX but I bought the 4K disc this week. I also bought Sam Mendes' war film, 1917, in 4K. I'm very exciting about seeing both of these. I had a feeling they are going to make my sound system perform at it's absolute best!
Two fabulous 4K discs Eoghan. DUNKIRK is one of the very best because it was mainly shot genuine IMAX. Don't turn it up too loud though otherwise your house might collapse!
Ordered the 4k versions of Dunkirk and The Prestige today. And Oppenheimer 4k yesterday. I need to stop my addiction haha.
No chance of that and particularly when you see how good DUNKIRK and OPPENHEIMER are. The Prestige is very good too but obviously not of the standard of the two genuine IMAX films. John.
Thank you John.
Well done that man!
I was lucky to catch the premiere screening of Dunkirk at the Paragon IMAX Bangkok in 15/70. Absolutely incredible experience I'll never forget. Genuine IMAX presentations are something very special indeed, and long may they continue.
What an evening that must have been Peter. Shame you didn't shoot a video for the rest of us!!! John.
Thank you for the video! Would you say Dunkirk is a better 4k disc than Tenet or Interstellar?
I think it's better than INTERSTELLAR but TENET may be the best 4K disc of all on our new video projector. All systems produce varying results though and what is the best I've ever seen up to now - MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS - is nowhere near as good on the new projector but still looks better than them all when projected on our older projector. By that I mean that the older projector caused ORIENT EXPRESS to look better than TENET on the new projector. It's close though. DUNKIRK is a top three disc and may now be number 2 behind TENET.
John.
Great video John. I'm getting excited for Interstellar watching these videos. I'm glad you enjoyed Dunkirk. A movie I need to rewatch
We need to get these genuine IMAX cinemas to give these prints an airing on an annual basis Darren just so people do get the chance to experience cinema as it should be today. Joh.
@@moviecollector5920 couldn't agree more John. I'd love to see any and every movie on 15/70. An experience unlike any other I hope
@@Darrenlovesmovies NO TIME TO DIE and NOPE were recent films shot 15/70 IMAX but not a single print of either of them. I don't even think they finished on film so we're not likely to get the chance to see them as they should have been seen now. What a waste. John.
I’m really looking forward to seeing Oppenheimer next weekend on 70mm IMAX
I was lucky enough to see Dunkirk on 70mm IMAX film and regular 70mm print it’s just on another level I have seen interstellar twice at IMAX the only movie that has even come close is a 1968 70mm of 2001 and the picture and sound was amazing and the in camera effects are amazing and actually look better than some modern CGI 😂
I think on set special effects are preferable to computer effects Ben. A lot of the time they look more realistic but even when they're not the image quality is almost always better owing to the low quality computer images are usually output at. At best they're output at 4K but usually 2K due to the time it takes. We'll both have to get along to Bradford the next time the Pictureville put 2001 A Space Odyssey on the curved, louvred Cinerama screen just so we can make a final decision about which is the more impressive cinematic event between 2001 and Interstellar.
John.
Interesting I did not no that about the low image quality seems a odd choice,
In the 80s I’m pretty sure when they were rotoscoping like in blade runner & tron they shot those scenes in 70mm to get the best quality for the effects.
I’m interested to see what the new print of 2001 looks I think Chris Nolan oversaw the remastered 70mm film.
I saw the original version just before Warner took it out of circulation
@@benjaminmanchett1507 Still today most computer effects shots are output at 2K and that takes around 15 hours per frame apparently. Outputting at 4K quadruples the time each frame takes. This is a big reason why conventional special effects and on set special effects look so superior much of the time.
John.
Another great video! I’m trying to establish communication with BFI so I could make a tour video of largest screen in the UK.
I don't think they'll mind you getting some shots of the auditorium but it's not particularly usual to get access to the projection booth which is all temperature and humidity controlled due to the sensitivity of the equipment, particularly the IMAX GT 15/70 film projector. Even though I was invited there to shoot TENET from the booth the management still wanted me to ask for permission to shoot around the rest of the building in writing, which I did but only after I'd actually got most of the shots already.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thank you for your answer John. I have tried sending them an enquiry via BFI website, but unfortunately still waiting for the answer. On the other hand I was lucky to film inside the science museum IMAX.
IMAX Tour: Science Museum, London
ua-cam.com/video/671CgN7LHoY/v-deo.html
@@boredtech Funnily enough I had a look and saw that you had uploaded the Science Museum IMAX late last night and made a note to have a look this morning. You did well there. My colleague from the BFCC (and the big boss actually) managed to get in there when it first opened and shot the projector running but neither of us can find the video he shot now, damn it! I think I've only seen The Force Awakens there but that six minutes of genuine IMAX was worth the cost of admission on its own. It's not quite the same level of spectacular as the BFI IMAX but still better than anywhere else other than the BFI IMAX. I don't bother with anything projected on video anywhere and not even any cinema claiming video projection is IMAX because it's not the same thing. OPPENHEIMER should go some way to set the record straight if we can encourage enough people to seek out a genuine IMAX with a 15/70 print and it seems that I already have some people flying in from across Europe so we'll have to try and coordinate a specific screening in order that we can meet up. Seeing an IMAX GT in operation is awe inspiring. Words can't do it justice and it was a bit of a dream to actually get into the number one venue to shoot it, particularly with TENET showing which I think is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. It may not be the greatest film, not quite, but when it looks as good as it does from the real McCoy IMAX 15/70, then who cares?
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah, I agree. I wonder, how many cinemas will show OPPENHEIMER on 15/70? By the way, last month I was back to science museum for an Interstellar screening. I was able to film how the prepare the projector (full video coming soon). Even made a time lapse. Have a look. ua-cam.com/video/X9wyHmpIzTs/v-deo.html
@@boredtech That link is to your Traumpalast IMAX video, is that right? Flying a drone tends to unnerve me at times so I found an easier solution that achieves the same thing by sticking an action camera with a remote viewfinder on a stick. It's much quicker to do it that messing around with a DJI Mavic or something else. INTERSTELLAR is probably the most memorable cinema visit I've ever had. That was nine years ago at the BFI and I'll be repeating it in a couple of weeks. It's sold out yet again so there's something happening with INTERSTELLAR for any genuine IMAX that still has the 15/70 prints in-house. Melbourne sold out almost immediately they announced it. But for sure at the BFI, it's a master print as is TENET and judging by the clarity and density of their print of DUNKIRK, that must be too. I feel sorry for the once genuine IMAX cinemas who made the mistake of removing their 15/70 projectors as they're going to be screening these films sub-standard from now on. It's a terrible shame but management who don't understand must surely be why these seemingly ridiculous decisions are taken at times.
John.
Just got Dunkirk 4K today from ebay ($11) and am looking forward to seeing it on my new LG OLED set.
I hope you have a good time with it Jack. It's a great 4K but nothing compares to the real McCoy. I could watch the Christopher Nolan genuine IMAX films in 15/70 over and over again so I think an annual IMAX festival should be on the calendar at the BFI. Being central London we'd have people flying in from all over the world given how most IMAX cinemas aren't 15/70 IMAX and either 2K, 4K or just over 4K video projection. John.
What a film this is I got the 4K and when he walks onto the beech at the start it was woah! Really sad when the lad falls down the stairs on the boat. Glad you enjoyed it at iMac keep up the good work👍
I always liked the film on 4K disc but genuine IMAX takes it to a whole new level of greatness. I had to see it to believe it. John.
How does an IMAX 70mm 1.43 viewing compare to a GT dual laser 1.43 IMAX viewing? I read for the GT laser to reach 1.43, they simply stretch it from 1.9. Is that true? If so, then it has less of the original image.
I can't answer this one D B. The basic fact is that IMAX with two projectors is just over 4K. Stretch that anyway you like and it's always going to be sub-standard. It's a shame it doesn't use a different name such as IMAX LITE because many people go into these faux IMAX cinemas thinking they've seen IMAX and probably wondering what all the fuss is about. The only way to see genuine IMAX is when a genuine IMAX cinema is running one of the genuine IMAX 15/70 film prints with a film that was shot using 15/70 negative stock which was then edited and finished before the prints were struck directly from it. That's what makes the Christopher Nolan films special. He used five sequences in THE DARK KNIGHT but then THE DARK KNIGHT RISES made much more use of the format and he hasn't looked back from there. OPPENHEIMER will effectively be his fifth IMAX film but six if you stretch it to include the short sequences in THE DARK KNIGHT. John.
I was lucky enough to watch dunkirk in imax when it came out. I only wish I had a chance to watch it again at bfi!
I know what you mean Pablo because I would sit there and watch it all again right now. And TENET. What a wonderful adventure this IMAX revival at the BFI is proving to be. So exciting to see film again and to remember how good it really can be. Maybe I should start a UK Parliament petition to abolish video and make it law for all films to be shot genuine IMAX. John.
The closest IMAX 70mm to me is in indiana, and that is hours away. And they don't always present their movies on the 70mm projector, and they don't always specify on their website. I hope I can see one showing soon!!!
Because OPPENHEIMER is coming a few genuine IMAX cinemas are dusting off the previous Nolan IMAX releases. Worth checking perhaps. John.
@@moviecollector5920 That's true, so much to look forward to :D
Hi, I notice you have Optoma projectors, I have a
Optoma HD131Xe that I have been using daily since 2014 only changed the lamp once would like to stick to same brand
Any recommendations on a 4K model
The best one you can splash out on Ben. The reason we got the UHZ50 is because of the plan to hang a projector upside down in the next room and project through a large porthole into the cinema. We didn't fancy doing that with the huge UHD500X. See if you can find my British Film Collectors Convention video from early May because you'll see the UHD500X at work there onto the 24ft wide screen. I think we were limited to 22 feet owing to the masking across the top of the stage area but that screening generated some chat because it looked so impressive. I did select some of the best 4K discs for the job though. John.
Ok thanks John, I will take a look at that it’s difficult to buy projectors as only specialty electronic stores have demonstrations and it’s usually a expensive brand
@@benjaminmanchett1507 The UHZ50 here is giving pretty fabulous results now Ben but I know many people get hung up on certain features and it may not have everything you want in that regard. We just wanted a good value 4K projector that would give similar results to the UHD550X but manageable to hang upside down where we needed to put it. The 550X is simply too big for that and although the UHZ50 doesn't have such a good zoom lens I've managed to make it work satisfactorily. I'm not sure HDR is so obvious through it but it may actually be better and I'm just not entirely used to how it displays through it yet. Excellent image quality is achievable but that laser can often be too bright so I'm still getting to grips with that. That excessive light output doesn't adversely affect everything all the time and on the occasions when it is overly bright it can be reined in.
John.
So jealous, Dunkirk on TRUE IMAX, I wish I was there. Saw this in the "IMAX Jr." at the Cinema just up from the street from me, nice but NOT what you were able see.
Dunkirk is an incredible Movie from the Director and Everyone Else who was involved in creating this movie (art).
Took me awhile to understand how the movie was filmed, but once my mind clicked in...the movie took on a whole new life.
Because it took me a bit to become "One with the movie", I had to go watch it again...like all Christopher Nolan movies, the 2nd viewing is ALWAYS better and more enjoyable.
BFI is at the TOP of my list when I visit London...darn Covid and Grandson (just kidding on this one), changing all my travel plans.
Soon...2024????
Well done as always...others do a simple review of a movie, but your reviews make me appreciate the history, art and experience of the movie.
Thanks and cheers...until next time.
The pandemic is over here now Bob as we've all had it and therefore have good levels of immunity. It's now endemic so nothing more that we can do or need to do. In other words, sod it all and get over here for OPPENHEIMER! All these faux IMAX theatres passing off video projection as the great name are just not going to cut it. Such a shame it doesn't have a different identity but I suppose it's IMAX and cinemas trying to stay in business which I can understand. 'IMAX LITE' would be a good ID for these video projection cinemas using 2K and 4K. DUNKIRK in genuine IMAX is a different animal. What was a very good or great film became a masterpiece before my eyes.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Next Year for sure...Grandson has been eating up our vacation time.
And my daughter wants us to move to Texas to be near our Grandchild.
I was planning on going to that Dunkirk 15/70mm IMAX screening but my family was busy so we couldn’t go. My family are planning on going to the Interstellar IMAX showing though!
I hope you've got tickets for INTERSTELLAR already Robert. If it's the third screening on Sunday 23rd then I'll see you there. John.
Can you please explain 70 mm imax vs theatres that are just 70Mm like showplace icon Roosevelt in Chicago? Which is 70Mm or should I go to digital IMAX??
IMAX is 70mm film that runs horizontally through the projector gate because it's so enormous at 15 sprockets wide. It is the biggest film format every invented/used and nothing else has ever come close with the possible exception of three-strip Cinerama but that was an entirely different approach and end results. Some years ago IMAX was taken over and as usually happens after this sort of thing the new management wanted to make money out of their investment so they thought the great name could be used to fool the unwary into thinking they were paying to see something special when the fact was the new methods of presenting movies using the IMAX name was a massive downgrade. Today we are getting movies labelled as 'Optimized for IMAX Theatres' but this is complete nonsense. If slightly different names were adopted for these various video projection methods they are using such as IMAX LITE then no one would be under any illusions but it's all about money. There is only one IMAX and it is projected via 70mm film running through at 1.7 metres a second. Nothing else comes close and with OPPENHEIMER imminent there is only one way to truly see the film which like the Nolan IMAX films before it, has been shot and finished on film. And that is the credit to look out for whenever anyone is trying to pass off a video or a film shot on 35mm as IMAX. It's a big lie and that is why anything other than the real McCoy is referred to as LIEMAX.
I hope this explains it. When it comes to TENET, DUNKIRK and INTERSTELLAR, if you haven't seen them in 15/70 IMAX then you really haven't seen them at all. An experience like no other and true cinematic events in a time when the people in the industry are largely disinterested in offering anything of true quality.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 man.. That was an amazing answer. Really appreciate. Covid imax at navy pier was permanently shut down taking away the only imax in Chicago. Some people have told me to see it at a theater with 70Mm capability but as you put it, it’s not the same. I’m seriously thinking about driving to Indianapolis or Grand Rapids and making a day out of it lol.
@@jzpat If you're a movie fanatic similar to myself then we have got to see this in the full Monty. Who knows how much longer or how many more times we'll ever get a chance to see one of these glorious prints so we do need to take the opportunity when it comes around. Standard 70mm is better than anything else today so that would still be special but I do show the difference between the two formats in another video from around the time I was doing these IMAX videos a few months ago and the width of the IMAX frame is an extra 30% to 40% over standard 70mm. That makes an enormous difference. The way the projector works is different too as a vacuum has to suck each individual IMAX frame onto the rear element of the lens to ensure the focus is held over the enormous coverage area before the next frame is shot into position using a process known as the Rolling Loop. The speed of all this has to be seen to be believed but fortunately I was able to do that in the TENET IMAX video which is called 'IMAX 70mm FROM THE PROJECTION BOOTH: TENET. If you haven't seen that one then please have a look and marvel at what is an engineering marvel. It was all invented at the end of the 1960's and it's still the best movie presentation format in the world today. What a sensation. Actually, it's too much to take in a lot of the time so when you do see one of these genuine IMAX films it might need a couple of viewings to fully take it in. TENET is simply too much and needs a dozen viewings at least!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 that all sounds so fascinating. I am going to look for that imax video! As a big fan of Christopher Nolan, it pains me to say I haven’t had the opportunity to see any of his films in imax. Interstellar is one of my favorite movies all time. It left a lasting impression on me. Even watching those imax scenes on my OLED is mesmerizing. I can’t imagine what imax is like. I think I am absolutely driving to see the film. You’ve convinced me. I want to experience his film in its true form. And I’ve watched tenet 5 times and I convince myself I understand what’s going on 😂. It’s getting better though. I only wish the dialogue was more crisp in that movie.
John, you make it sound so exciting that I immediately went to search for tickets! But, unfortunately, there are no Nolan films currently playing. Well, John Wick 4 most likely was not filmed on 15/70mm IMAX - as you said, very few movies are. But, I will settle for that to quench my thirst!
Wonderful invitation!
Dmitri
Keep an eye on any genuine IMAX theatre in the Colorado area Dmitri because it's possible that in the run up to OPPENHEIMER they'll put any prints they're storing back on the cakestand to give them an airing. After all, the 15/70 projectors don't get much use these days so they'll all need to be ready for the big new release. Genuine 15/70 IMAX: Accept no substitutes!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Aye Aye Captain! Acknowledged! We have some friends here, that are also excited for a great cinematic experience. These are the fellows that we experienced "Goonies" and "Jaws" with. So, I am sure, either I or our friends will point out a great IMAX presentation soon. I will let you know when that happens.
As always, thank you for a great recommendation!
Dmitri
Dunkirk blew me away in a regular cinema, can't imagine what it must have been like in this one!!!
Mesmerizing. Different to TENET a few weeks ago as it's a more conventional film but still spellbinding to experience as it was designed to be seen. Different to watching the 4K disc for sure. John.
Thanks for sharing your experience with such an incredible film, one of Nolan's top, alongside with Interstellar and The Dark Knight. A truly masterpiece.
All his films are different Juanjo. I still think TENET is the best simply because it is so convoluted and so much to look at in every frame. DUNKIRK is a bit more conventional but no less brilliant. INTERSTELLAR is his most commercial and most beautiful to look at. John.
A great 4K experience. BFI imax must be superb. Nice “look”.
One of the best you can have with a 4K home video disc Gary... but genuine IMAX makes it feel a little ordinary afterwards. John.
I was lucky to have seen Dunkirk 4 times in 15/70 IMAX during its original theatrical run in 2017. Truly mesmerizing.
We should all have been so lucky Joe! I'd never tire of looking at image quality like this. John.
@@moviecollector5920 It never gets old. I should have stayed all day on a Saturday for 5 consecutive screenings!
@@joee52 And I should have been sitting there with you!
Hi another informative review true IMAX great although I still prefer the giant curved Cinerama screen
I think a reintroduction of D:150 would be the answer to stem the terminal decline of cinema so a sort of poor man's Cinerama. John.
A total masterpiece, and for me is the Nolan’s best movie ever
It doesn't work anywhere near as well in any other format though Riccardo. To be fair, no film would be better in any other format as they're all sub-standard to genuine IMAX. I didn't appreciate it as much as I do now before last Thursday. John.
What I really don't like about Nolan's movies on disc is the flickering of the image on Imax sequences. Do you have any idea why is it so visible?
I don't have it on mine Spike. If 'Dynamic Black' is on there's a bit of it but that's the case with every disc and why I don't have it on. John.
I work as a colorist. This is not an issue with my displays since there are all calibrated at a professional level, SDR & HDR. This flickering is happening on every Imax sequences. It's very subtle but I can assure it's there (It can be spotted on daVinci resolve oscilloscope). On 35mm & Super 35mm I've never seen this type of flickering without a specific tweak during the shooting. I was wondering if it was something Nolan was aiming for or if it was something normal when shooting in Imax 70mm.
@@spikewilliam Can't see it Spike and I won't be able to import the video into Davinci due to the copy protection. There is the rolling loop that makes IMAX work and is so kind to film but I can't tell you if that causes what you're seeing for sure. It's unique to IMAX so that would be the first place I'd look. I was scrutinizing the 4K of DUNKIRK again yesterday and any flicker was eliminated by turning off that pesky dynamic black function that never works properly on anything. John.
The cinemas in the Uk rival the cinemas in the here in the states. What a great experience great video 🎬🍿🎥📽
I used to go to cinemas across the USA and El Capitain probably captured my imagination the most. It was still an old world picture palace but with great sound to accompany the fine imagery we used to enjoy at just about every cinema every time. Those days are gone now. The Empire on Leicester Square, London was always my favourite picture house but that's now a cheapened multiplex and I don't think I'll ever be able to go in there again because I loved it so much before. It would be too much of a heartbreak. As a result, the BFI IMAX is now top dog over here and that's not only down to the design of the place but because they're still able to screen the best ever quality known to man and that has got me out of my home and back into a cinema regularly for the first time in over 15 years. They therefore get my vote as the number one here in the UK. Just imagine if the screen had tabs and motorized masking... it would be even better still.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 yes that bfi is beautiful. I would love to see a movie on that 85 foot screen. Cinemark is our local cinema but it doesn’t have a imax theater. Have to travel about 20 miles to see a imax.thanks for your comment. I look forward to seeing your videos and the passion you have for movies and cinema 📽🎥🍿
@@4luvofmovies485 Be careful of the IMAX name now though because it's been applied to ordinary cinemas that are just video projecting 4K, and even sometimes 2K, video. If an IMAX hasn't got a 15/70 IMAX projector then it simply isn't IMAX as far as I'm concerned. Accept no imitations. John.
@@moviecollector5920 good to know John thanks 👍
i was an extra in dunkirk, was a really cool experience. i have never seen a film in imax but imagine it is amazing
If you do ever get to see DUNKIRK in genuine IMAX I think you'll be able to pick yourself out even if you were one of those cardboard cutouts making up the troops queuing for a boat! John.
@@moviecollector5920 I'm only in it for about 10 seconds at the end when the soldiers are coming off the boats in Weymouth haha. Just a quick one John, I'm heading to Portsmouth at the end of the week and planning on going to hmv whilst I am there and hopefully going to do a 4k pick up video on my channel. I was wondering if you have any footage of the Portsmouth store. If not I could maybe get some footage of the store when I go there. Kind regards,Curtis
I was one of the lucky ones to grab a ticket to Melbourne IMAX to see Interstellar. There were only three individual tickets left in random spots throughout the cinema when I tried to purchase 10mins after going on sale! Never seen it in IMAX before, so I'm actually flying down from Sydney for this screening 😀
Keep a lookout for young Clark Teddles while you're there Tom. If you don't know Clark's channel then he's been shooting a lot of projection booth videos lately so worth looking up. John.
I'll see you there! I'm also travelling from Sydney to Melb's just to see this great film in 1570. should be fun. acquiring a ticket for that screening should be an Olympic sport.
@@ClarkTeddles fantastic! Also checked out your channel as per John's recommendation - easy subscribe. Almost certain I was at the Ritz the night you recorded the Lawrence of Arabia projection booth
@@tom_benson thanks for subscribing! I greatly appreciate it. Glad to hear you were at Lawrence of Arabia at the ritz. I’ll be going to a few of their upcoming 35mm screenings. Cheers
@@ClarkTeddles welp - hope I wasn't the only one massively disappointed we got shown the digital version instead
I believe you when you say the film reveals itself as a masterpiece when screened in 15/70 on an IMAX screen, John.
This video is a masterpiece too.
"... just to give us that human interest as we make our way into that glorious auditorium."
*HILARIOUS.*
Glad you liked this one Erik. I'll have to think of what to do for INTERSTELLAR next month but I'll come up with something. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I look forward to it. Erik.
salut super film dunkerque belle vidèo comme toujour
Merci Alain. DUNKIRK est un chef-d'œuvre et je n'en doute guère. John.
Truly large format film and screens do something that home theaters rarely achieve and that is envelope the watcher in visuals and sound in a way that takes you INTO the movie like nothing else can. I'm glad you can at least relay the experience. But alas it's like telling somebody what it is like sailing when they hadn't ever been.
Some also don't want to know how superior film still is to video Joseph so that's another issue. I haven't done much sailing but I know I'd love it if I ever did get the chance to learn the craft. John.
Nicely done John 👍.... looking forward to openheimer myself 😁
You'll have to come over to the BFI IMAX Roy! John.
I'm watching Oppenheimer on 70mm film. I highly recommend this version over digital projectors. Film is far superior to digital still.
Make sure that's 15/70 though as it's going to be far superior to the excellent, outstanding standard 70mm prints. Maybe I'll see you at the BFI IMAX. Still got to sort out tickets myself though. John.
Dunkirk was terrific, and it was quite a theatrical experience even though I only saw it at one of the smaller digital IMAX theaters. I have all of Nolan's films on Blu-ray, though only Tenet on 4K, but even the Blu-ray of Dunkirk projected at home was a great watch. By the way, I really have enjoyed your cinema and video store visit videos!
The Nolan films are great on home video and particularly 4K. Nothing compared to the real thing though. If the video projection of the OPPENHEIMER trailer at the IMAX is anything to go by then I think I'll continue to just watch video projections at home.
JVC video projectors are the best. D-ILA was a sensation when it first arrived here and probably still is.
I'm glad you liked my cinema and video store videos. I enjoy making those more than the things shot at home.
John
Is their screen bowed outwards? Or is that just a lens distortion or something?
Most if not all IMAX screens are curved. Other than it just "feeling" more immersive for the audience, it also aids with the projection of the image onto the far sides of the screen, which reduces loss of sharpness, brightness and distortion.
Actually, I don't take much notice when I'm there but usually screens have a curve to them on such a scale. But I used a Sony action camera in there so it's a very wide angle lens on that particular camera. John.
@@Shinrya Okay, didn't realize that. I had always heard that for some regular cinema screens, a curve INWARDS is used to accommodate projector-lens distortions, but I didn't know they also curved outwards.
Only saw this in Digital IMAX, but the Spitfire scenes were amazing.
The Spitfire scenes are amazing Jeff. The sheer size of that film format means even a tiny 4K video projection ensures the VistaVision like effect whereby the quality of the master shrinks down for superior imagery on any other format. It would be interesting to see one of the 35mm prints because I expect they're stunning too. Won't compare to the real thing though which is what made this cinema visit so very special. John.
🤯‼️‼️‼️ my EYES!!! 🤣🤣‼️ simply put.. THANK YOU, John! Thank you for showing me my next level up!
I find it so exciting when I know I'm going to see something special Alex. I don't bother with cinema any longer and haven't for years since the industry got together and agreed to dumb the quality down so that the world would think that video projection (labelled as 'digital' so we'd all think it was something new and special) in cinemas was superior. By the end of 2006 the quality was so awful that I hardly ever visited a cinema and a few more poor experiences in the years after that made me seek out and check that film prints were being screened before I ventured out. Genuine IMAX is out on its own and nothing else comes close. Seeing DUNKIRK all the way through in the format (I'd seen a pre-release promo reel at the BFI IMAX years ago) confirmed to me that I'd never really seen the film before despite having watched the 4K disc several times. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Wow! That’s dedication! Ringing up the cinema to check if the movie is been screened in film print! - 🤣👊🏽‼️ MASTERY! I bet they don’t get that once a month let alone everyday!
Why have they done that? - made most of us think video / “digital” projection is superior?? Is it a cost and time think?? 🤷🏽♂️
@@amindformovies The project to foist video projection on us all was hatched in 2002 apparently. The industry collaborated and I suspect it was after George Lucas got away with the awful video projection of Attack of the Clones at the Odeon Leicester Square because the manager told me that I was the only person who complained the whole time that crap was on. He got me back to look at the 35mm print which was much better but still pretty much crap because the movie had been shot in lowly high definition. To get video projection in without complaints would take some dexterity so 35mm was downgraded and the films that I was seeing from the late 1990's were below par. They continued to get worse and in 2005/2006 I started giving up. A few more cinema visits in the years after this convinced me that it was all over and so I've only gone to see films in the last 15 years or so if I can be sure a genuine film print is running and not a 35mm print struck from a 2K or 4K computer master file. I believe I was caught out with the 70mm print of Death on the Nile because I've been told that was struck from the 4K video master which, if true, is an absolute disgrace. It didn't look as good as it should have done but there was a lot of green screen/blue screen in that film owing to the pandemic restricting location shooting. Genuine IMAX is still thankfully exactly that and that gets me off my backside in back into a theatre. These current IMAX adventures have put the thrill back into my cinema going and I just wish there were more of them. I still won't be going to any other cinemas who are just projecting 2K or 4K video so it's a short lived thing but wonderful to be able to go and see something of quality in a cinema again after all these years.
John.
Graham I'm back. Sorry to have missed that screening at Imax Waterloo, too many friends to see while in UK. Having seen other films in true Imax I know how silly I was not to have tried harder to see a true cinematic event. Back in Mexico now but I will return to London in May and this time I hope they have more showings of any Nolan films which I won't miss. Sorry not to have seen you John. Keep telling us what's coming up and he'll or high water count me in.
I don't think the IMAX prints being screened in May are genuine IMAX films Graham but are blow-ups from 35mm and other formats. BATMAN BEGINS is one of them and I think INCEPTION is another. Won't be quite the same but still a treat to see a real film on a giant screen. Take a look at what's coming here: whatson.bfi.org.uk/imax/Online/default.asp?BOparam::WScontent::loadArticle::permalink=countdowntooppenheimer&BOparam::WScontent::loadArticle::context_id=
If you can get over at the end of July or beginning of August then OPPENHEIMER should be something very special indeed. John.
PS after visiting fopp and various CEX stores plus HMV in Oxford,Manchester and White city I returned with my bags full of disks.And brought them all safely back with me.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes im going to be there i think and i have my sights set on Openheimer. Thanks for the link i see that June doesn't appear yet hope they have some Noland goodies then.
Oh no June was there and not a thing
Surely they will want to add other showings , public responce has been so incredible Hoping!!!
I understand you are a fan of projection and large screen experience but do you watch on a video screen ? Colour has to be superior on say a oled as does contrast
Television doesn't interest me. I watch UA-cam and a few top series from the past on a telly but that's it. It's not for movies as far as I'm concerned and hasn't been since video projection finally because adequate about 17 or 18 years ago. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I guessed that 👍
Great video on a great movie night @Movie Collector
Thank you Pieter.
The first film by Nolan on 4K with either DTS X or Atmos will be an event. Someday perhaps.
Hopefully not too soon though. The sound on each one of his IMAX films has been so perfect that I wouldn't have wanted risking any distraction by the sound being chucked all over the place. I'm beginning to find films sound better with 5.1 but I expect 7.1 is just as good because Sony Dynamic Digital Sound was always impressive in cinemas and not too over the top. John.
I would love to have seen Dunkirk in IMAX. The scene at the end of the movie when 2 soldiers arrive at the train station was filmed in my home town. They filmed for 3 days and hired a lot of locals as extras. But they used hardly any of the footage. I think due to the fact that loads of screaming teenage girls turned up hoping to see Harry Styles🤬
No Shaun, that was because I was there to help Mr. Nolan!!!
Okay, I made that up. John.
Seeing movies on 70mm is such a treasure, sadly here in Finland it’s almost impossible. I do think that Nolan makes movies I only care too see once, for me they are extremely overlong and pretty boring really. Inception, Dunkirk, Batman trilogy, Interstellar - all lack emotion, at least for my taste. Great video and info again, thanks!
The only way to see these Nolan IMAX works of art and fully appreciate what the makers achieved is to see them in genuine 15/70 IMAX. I could see that DUNKIRK was a very good film but I didn't appreciate it as a masterpiece until last Thursday. You'll just have to fly over for OPPENHEIMER! John.
I live just a few kilometres away from Finland’s one and only imax-theatre, so I’m good with that. Will check that BFI theatre next summer when visiting London, for sure.
Of course you not seeing the full imax on these disks as your getting the top and bottom cut off you need to get back to 4:3 TVs
You can only see the full IMAX on a 15/70 IMAX film print Neil because that's what IMAX is. Anything else is a shrink down but it's still so very good on the 4K disc. That's the point to this. The genuine IMAX origination is what makes the 4K disc what it is i.e. one of the best 4K discs on the market. John.
@@moviecollector5920 15/70 as you know has the best format quality even beating digital photography
@@neiltaylor6645 Video doesn't come anywhere near Neil. Not yet anyway. John.
I actually saw Dunkirk in both 15/70 and IMAX Digital on the same screen a week or so apart, and even apart from the aspect ratio the image quality just didn't feel the same. IMAX film has an organic quality you can't replicate, and being in a theater to see genuine IMAX film feels like a true luxury. I also just like the framing of films shot to protect for 15/70, that headroom really makes the image look huge.
That said, as far as IMAX crops go this isn't the worst, as that extra information in the frame is sky or water, and thus pure headroom, much of the time. I think audio was the same, as doesn't sound for IMAX 70mm run off a CD or DVD anyway?
The sound is downloaded onto a computer at the IMAX. It will be identical between the faux IMAX video projections and the real McCoy 15/70. The difference in the image is about five or six times greater on the film prints if you break it down strictly into an estimate of what film represents with a computer equivalent video. Might be much more in reality but it's impossible to tell. John.
I understand studios crop the film to look better on home screen. But they need to start releasing the original ratio for the audience. I’m sure film lovers would happily pay extra money to watch their fav film as it was intended by the director. I still don’t get it why WB hasn’t released Dune in IMAX ratio.
The only way to see IMAX is in an IMAX cinema though and not those faux IMAX theatres who only have video projection. Accept no imitations. 1.78:1 is the best solution for the home though and as the cameras have the guidelines for the different formats nothing vital is accidentally eliminated. John.
I saw Interstellar at this IMAX when it was released and it was remarkable.
We might have been at the same show. Unlikely but you never know. John.
ua-cam.com/video/EOelbWDrWqE/v-deo.html Hi John. Did you know that 2001 has now also been screened on 70mm IMAX? For the 50th Anniversary in 2018, Nolan arranged for an enlargement to be made. This actually played recently at The Science Museum, South Kens.
I have been aware of Christopher Nolan arranging re-prints of 2001 from a pre-restoration master David. This will probably still have dupe sequences in it as the original camera negative was apparently somewhat damaged beyond repair in a few places owing to so many 70mm prints being struck from it over the years. This explains why some sequences on the 4K disc don't look quite as good as the rest of it. It was the same with My Fair Lady but no one else seemed to notice. I know it wasn't really a Cinerama film but I want to see it on the Cinerama screen in Bradford because it was filmed to work best on Cinerama screens. Just a shame it wasn't a three-strip Cinerama but I don't suppose it would have been possible because the shoot was so complicated.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Ah, I actually managed to get to the recent Bradford Cinerama screening. It worked very well, with the curved screen creating what I can only describe as a 3D effect, or illusion of depth, what with the centre of the screen being further away than the left and right. But of course no need to wear intrusive 3D glasses! The 70mm print itself had some colour degradation and wasn't the best, but the quality actually improved as the film went on. The Stargate and Starchild both looked like good quality CGI despite me knowing they weren't, and this being an unrestored print. They really held up! Would loved to have seen the IMAX 70mm enlargement, but sadly couldn't make it on the date.
@@davidjames579 The IMAX enlargement will still be the same 2.20:1 ratio David so you're probably not going to get anything different other than a lot of unmasked screen area above and below. I think you've seen the ultimate iteration even if the print was a little faded for a few reels. The chances are that this was struck before the neg was overly damaged so it's possible you've seen the best any of us are ever likely to see. There's nothing quite like the Cinerama screen even if it's being filled by a single film strip rather than three of them as it was originally. They used specific lenses to make the deeply curved screen work when the astronauts go through doorways and things like that. In fact, thse lenses made it look almost like modern action cameras at times.
is digital Imax real imax?
No comparison rhu. It's cheaper though and requires little ability to press the buttons. Film is different and so very superior in every respect. John.
Sponsored by Greggs??
Yes Bac, they supplied us all with a meat pie! Or was it a burrito?
To me Dunkirk is the best film he has made so far i really enjoyed it and this isn't my type of film that i would even watch it was filmed so well and a very engaging story. Another film again that isn't my type of film to watch but enjoyed so much is Greyhound again another engaging story that sucks you right into the film
I don't even know Greyhound bioshock so that's one to look into. A story about a bus no doubt! Might be a dog!!! John.
@@moviecollector5920 ua-cam.com/video/_PuLjlA_Rbg/v-deo.html with tom hanks gripping story
Brilliant movie 🎥
And even better in genuine IMAX Raymond. So please I went to all the effort to get there. John.
While i saw this film in my local cinema ( a one off event for a friend of mine as I can't stand people talking etc.) I found the film somewhat underwhelming as a story, due to the way it was filmed. That's only down to my personal film tastes of course, but the sound level totally spoiled it for us, as it was turned up so much.
I have never watched a film EVER, with my fingers in my ears, before or since.
I thought Pink Floyds The Wall was loud in the Odeon in London, many years ago, but Dunkirk beat it hands down (or should that be ears in)
I was convinced later that had I NOT put my fingers in my ears for most of the film, I would have damaged my hearing. I looked at the rest of the crowd (mostly older people like myself oddly) and they were mostly doing the same as we were. The scenes of rifles being fired were particularly piercing.
I would be interested to 'hear' your thoughts on this aspect of theaters turning the sound up artificially, i.e. was it, or was it supposed to sound like that for this film?
Some cinemas do put the volume up too high so that would have been the error on the part of the cinema. It was loud at the IMAX but not overly loud and with the quality of their sound system, it probably wouldn't have killed all of us if it had have been much louder. Well, some of us would have walked out alive! But if DUNKIRK isn't in genuine IMAX then it's not the same as I found out last Thursday. Accept no imitations. John.
I'm afraid I couldn't get into Nolan's Dunkirk. I much preferred the 1958 film with John Mills.
But I'd really like to see Interstellar in IMAX. Love Zimmer's score for the movie. If you look for 'making of INTERSTELLAR Soundtrack' on UA-cam the recording session in Temple church in London is very interesting.
Did you see DUNKIRK in genuine IMAX though because that's what makes the film what it is. Even a 35mm reduction print probably wouldn't do it anywhere near full justice. Wouldn't mind a 35mm print myself though! John.
@@moviecollector5920 No, I saw it at home on streaming. I'm sure the picture quality was poor compared to the cinema experience - but I just wasn't engaged with the characters. Also, I know that Nolan eschews CGI but I think this would have been one time it would have been justified to show the true scale of the evacuation.
@@neatodd I felt like I was watching British people as they used to be and accurately portraying how the soldiers would have been during the crisis at Dunkirk. The minimal dialogue suited it well and we knew everything we needed to know about everyone on screen. However, I didn't feel like that until I saw it last Thursday. I could see it was a very good film on the 4K disc but I didn't see it as a masterpiece which is how I now regard it. I was trying to make that point in this video but I probably fell short. The point is, if you get a chance to see it as it should be seen then grab the chance. John.
jvc and Sony 4k projectors with madvr will definitely be better than the imax presentation. also with 18inch subwoofer you can achieve ,better than imax sound in your home with chest kick and can feel ulf content. home cinema is so advanced now with hdr and big subwoofers. the best home setups will always beat the best of theaters.
No chance of matching the sound at the BFI IMAX and even less chance of current video projection standards getting anywhere near the real thing. Home video projection is amazingly good now and that's something to be seen to be appreciated at times but it can be a little depressing when you get to see the best image quality known to man with 15/70 IMAX film. Get to the BFI IMAX one day if you can but make sure you're seeing the real McCoy before you set out because many are fooled into thinking 4K video projection is IMAX when it should be called something like 'IMAX LITE'. John.
@@moviecollector5920 no, facts don't lie. the imax can only reproduce till 28hz,whereas in home you can easily reproduce bass till 10hz and have peak output of 130-135db easily. so you are missing a whole lot in commercial cinemas. commercial cinema speakers like jbl pro,qsc and meyer speakers are being used in home cinemas and have better sound and less distortion due to smaller space. you just have to experience good high end home cinema to feel it. the tactile bass and the spatial audio is way ahead of the imax cinema. since imax don't support spatial audio, you are missing a lot in some movies.
For video you have to experience sony gtz380 and christie projectors with madvr. hdr video is vastly superior with more color volume and specular highlights. the very high highlights latitude of film can be fully utilized in hdr projection system. the Dolby cinema hdr projection has been considered as the best video quality in commercial cinemas due to hdr . in home you can achieve even higher brightness.
Imax film projection has advantages of film look and feel, apart from that, everything is easily achievable in home nowadays. you just have to experience some high end cinemas to believe it. i also suggest you to upgrade your projector to native 4k high contrast projectors, so that you can appreciate the 4k film restoration discs, even better.
@@chandan6119 You're not likely to convince me there Chandan but I appreciate your enthusiasm. I gave up on cinema owing to the poor quality on offer so to see top quality again has rekindled my own enthusiasm. One of the problems with video projection is that it's usually too bright as there's nothing to diffuse the illumination. Film is so superior to all of it when it comes to 70mm that there really is no comparison. People used to say the sound at The Empire wasn't very good whereas it was the best I'd heard in the world up to the time it was butchered. I think we can be sure the BFI IMAX has surpassed it now but it's not the massive auditorium of the Empire so that has an effect in itself. Home cinema sound can be wonderful but not many of us will have a home cinema the size of the IMAX which is where a lot of the impact comes in. When we have our own THX up too loud here it's difficult to sit in the room so we have to compromise at times. At the IMAX it's even louder but doesn't have that same effect...well, not often anyway. Get to the BFI for OPPENHEIMER and see what you think of the sound on that. The image quality will blow any lowly 4K video projector into the weeds of course but that's to be expected and not a fair comparison. John.
@@moviecollector5920 ya ,without you experiencing a high end home cinema, it would be difficult for me to convince you otherwise. i agree ,regarding film superiority in resolution and feel ,since i am a cinematographer myself. the over bright issue of video projection is a thing of past, now with proper isf calibration and software's like madvr and can do realtime luminance analysis of each frame and gives you perfect hdr image with highlights rolloff similar to film. with high end projectors, you can really experience those in your home.
ya I got it, why you feel home audio is inferior. without proper acoustics, sound level of just 60-70db would feel very loud and fatiguing in home cinema. but with proper acoustics you an easily achieve reference level sound (85db with 105db peaks)in home cinema and it does not feel loud or fatiguing. with proper acoustics ,you can experience that even in your room.
you don't want the room to be big as imax cinemas to get the same impact. with spatial audio,high output subwoofers and proper acoustics, it is easily achievable. I am telling this after watching movies in real imax and liemax theaters. i used to travel 300kms,just to watch movies in imax, but now after installing a modern high end cinema, I am getting even better experience in home. commercial cinemas will always be a compromise, since it has to cater to large number of audience. in home cinema you will have the best seat and getting high impact sound is easier.
@@moviecollector5920 also, i am a big fan old 4k disc and own almost all 4k disc from ten commandments to new releases like pulpfiction. I suggest you to upgrade your projector to native 4k and you will really appreciate the difference in resolution and contrast.
See £21 for an actual experience IS worth it. Though that concept seems lost on most cinemas nowadays.
I'd pay £100 for a show of this standard Marty. Okay, it would have to be a rare treat at that cost but it is so very, very special to see the best quality available to man today that I'd be prepared to pay for the privilege. John.
Ah yes, Interstellar. The sequel to the Martian. :)
The Martian is a very good film too. But it's not IMAX. Imagine how good it could have been if it had have been shot genuine 15.70 IMAX.
Really sucks in North America. I have the second biggest IMAX theatre in North America near my house, but they never have showings like this, only digital. And not even laser, only xenon digital. 92 feet by 72 feet screen just wasted in my opinion. Still unclear if they still have 15/70, but I recall hearing the manger saying he got rid of it. Really sad.
They must still have the film projector so it's possible they'll put it back into use for OPPENHEIMER. Video projection is wonderful now but nothing comes close to genuine IMAX. Accept no imitations! John.
@@moviecollector5920 It’s great to have you reply, there’s so little information on the theatre that it’s hard to find if they have anything. After quite a bit of research I found out about the screen size and found a video from 2013 with them playing 15/70 film. Hopefully they still have it and they’ll play Oppenheimer with it. It’s the whole reason why I want 15/70 film in that theatre.
@@mjibmichaeljacksoninblack8170 See if they have an email contact on their web site and ask them if they'll be screening OPPENHEIMER in 15/70 and if so when you can book tickets. That should get their interest. John.
@@moviecollector5920 They don’t, but I’ll probably ask the owner the next time I go to IMAX. I go there nearly once a month. 😊
Someone actually bought those Greggs clothing? LoL!
It is funny how popular Greggs is but I suppose they are such good value when you're out and need something for lunch. John.
Probably not your type of movie, but I just watched John Wick 2 and it’s a remarkable 4K disc.
The trailer for John Wick 4 was shown before DUNKIRK Gary. It rather put me off. And the image quality was poor but we are looking at an 85ft width so a little too much to expect from a video projection really. John.
@@moviecollector5920 watched 1917 today, really good movie and 4K disc. The “real “ human tragedy and death bother me a lot more than the John Wick cartoon violence.
@@garyharper2943 1917 was quite an achievement Gary so I'm pleased you enjoyed it. I've not seen any of the John Wick films and seeing the trailer to the fourth one at the IMAX has rather put me off seeing any of them now - well, for a while anyway. John.