2023 Indian FTR R Carbon | First Ride
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2023
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In this First Ride video, Chase throws a leg over Indian's new 2023 FTR Carbon. Will a naked-style motorcycle from a cruiser company be able to compete in the crazy competitive space next to bikes like the MT10sp? Let's find out on today's First Ride!
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One of these in Europe did a 1 mile wheelie at 143mph setting a record lol.
Is there a video of that anywhere? That would be amazing to see.
Link to it?
There is a guy in Japan who did a 310 mile wheelie on a scooter. Even refueled while doing it.
This Butt Nugget gonna test a ftr knowing good and well I'm in a Monster SP vs. FTR crisis
Get and ftr for sure 👍 Ducati will cost you more than the life of the loan lol
monster is much lighter i’ve ridden the ftr if you push it on tight roads it will feel heavy
“Butt nugget” has me dying over here. 😂😂😂 Well played.
If you plan on tracking and being a spirited rider you should go duc. But just for a daily rider and occasional spirited rides go ftr
I suggest a 2022 xsr900. I've had mine for almost a year and couldn't be happier. The long-wheelbase makes you the fastest thing off the line too. I haven't been beat 0 to 100
That FTR has a really cool and unique look to it. Almost like a power cruiser with naked sports bike characteristics. I'm digging the cool tubular swingarm, reminds me of my old S2r.
The FTR is killing it in the SUPER HOOLIGANS🏁🏁🏁🏁
I’m sure Chase’s opinions and observations of the copy he tested are valid.
But, I have owned a 2019 FTR S for a couple of years now and it’s been pretty flawless on the negatives Chase mentions. Re the clutch, I might just be insensitive to it, since I have a BMW R1200GSA whose clutch seems to engage at random places in the throw, and I’ve had to calibrate my clutch hand to work not off of muscle memory, but actually feeling engagement. I’ve definitely never dealt with the surging Chase mentions, though I do think that at lower throttle, my FTR is a little “snatchy” on and off the gas.
I find the switchgear and controls, and actually pretty much every part of the bike to be of excellent quality and workmanship. Pretty much every part on the bike is solid and weighty. I will admit that I think the switchgear is a bit over-complicated: too many stalks and triggers for my liking. But Indian has made it so you can either use the touchscreen, or the joysticks and other affordances to interact with the firmware (I generally don’t screw with it anyway). My main issue has been with winter gloves: I’m constantly accidentally “flashing” the headlight due to that trigger/switch’s location.
The bike is a hoot to ride around town and in the country, though my 18” wheel version is def a bit more of a fast/powerful cruiser/poser than a hooner, but so am I (though I don’t care for actual cruiser bikes). It could be a bit more comfortable in the legs for me. As Chase mentions, the pegs are ever so slightly “snug” and I’m tucked in the legs just a little more than I’d like. Depends on the boots and pants I’m wearing as to how much it really bothers me, though.
They mostly fixed engine heat issues on the 17” wheel bikes, as I understand it. Mine will definitely cook your right thigh to a crisp on a warm day. Kind of nice in the winter though 🤡.
Every single person who has commented on the bike has talked about how it is one of the most unique and beautiful bikes out there. It is really in a class of its own, IMO, and I dig it a lot.
This bike is amazing!!! The finest bike to ride I’ve ever rode. And at 63 I’ve rode most of them. I tell you what it’s a beast and will put a smile on your face. Get out there and have the time of your life Indian killed it. Trust me you will have a blast!!! Ride On !!!
I love my 2019 FTR, Lloydz tune really helps with the throttle response.
I just bought my FTR R Carbon two days ago and am absolutely loving it!
I grabbed a 2022 FTR S in white last month. Absolutely love it. I find the clutch to be a little vague/inconsistent, otherwise incredible. Super nimble and easy to ride. Love this bike.
Did you notice the oscillating throttle?
@warpark I haven't noticed it at all honestly.
@warpark Went for a much longer ride the other day, and definitely noticed the throttle surging. People on the forums say a tune fixes it. It's not a big deal for me, but definitely something to be aware of
@@Toddwith2dogs I replaced the perch and clutch line on my 22 R Carbon and it made a world of difference. I also changed the front brake master cylinder with a Brembo RCS and the breaks are now 10X better in the feel department.
I test rode this bike the other day and I 100% agree a quick shifter would make this bike awesome AF.
The frame and swing arm are nice!!!
i absolutely love the FTR! it gives me modern day "evel knievel" vibes..
Evel Knievel - imitation diavel! ( In a positive way)
Hey Chase! I have the same problem with oscillation that you had on the FTR R Carbon. But only with the cruise control, on my Sportster s -21 especially at lower speeds like 35 mph and slower. Saw that you also have a Sportster s and was wondering if it's something you've noticed on your bike as well?
Best regards Fredrik from Sweden.
It's gorgeous 😮
just got one of these bikes today and cant wait to ride it
Great honest video
This video and the music make me fall in love with this bike.
15:18 my favorite track from your First Ride videos.
What helmet are you rocking there!
I recently tested a 2023 FTR Sport, and I thought it was superb. Mild mannered and comfortable riding around town, and it comes alive when riding through twisty country roads having great handling and loads of instant power available in any gear, very confidence inspiring. The FTR can be a hooligan, but it also is happy taking it easy if you just want to leisurely sweep around the countryside enjoying the view. It does generate some heat in slow moving traffic, but no more so than my Ducati Monster 821 used to, and I didn't find it excessive. It is a bit expensive, but then so are many bikes from other premium brands, and it's different not a boring clone without personality.
I loved it, in my opinion it looks superb, and it's great fun. The FTR R Carbon is top of my purchase list.
3:40
told me all i needed to know about this one XD
thanks
Have a 22 ftrs and have never had any hint of a speed wabble over the past 2 years
Ive driven both the Ftr and Mt10 and i much prefer the low end torque of the ftr
Hopefully I'll be picking up my Carbon R this weekend!
It is not necessary For the screen to cycle through everything. Just a few seconds for the fuel pump and you can start it up.
Yo chaseontwowheels can you make a video of the Honda CB650R the naked bike version ?
Hi chase. Would you buy xsr900 2023 for MSRP or over, because the dealers can and the bikes are sparsely available. Vs 2023 (yeah leftovers) FTR 1200 sport for $9k or R carbon for $11k OTD?
You guys should do a review on the honda nxr 160 bros
wont you want to try the new ducati scrambler, the 2023 model
I dunno, might be splitting hairs here. I rode an FTR carbon at the Indian ride today. Sure, it had a lot of power, but the transmission felt clunky as hell to me. Also, it didn’t turn into curves as fast as my Triumph. Truth be known, I preferred the Indian bobber. It still had 100 hp, and was all comfortable to ride. Still, the wheelie factor of the FTR brought a smile to my face. My favorite bike was their big full sized, water cooled dresser style bikes. I guess I’ve gotten old and like driving a couch down the highway.😂
FTR is solely about the looks like a custom lowrider
I just rode the race replica...and I actually sold it to the owner lol nice bike. They rock
Just love the look of this Carbon FTR, thinking it be great for me... as I have ZERO need for M10 155 hp anyway
Bro, I take my FTR too the mountains ALL THE TIME! It's fantastic. And I'm a former Ducati owner,
Beginner rider question should the lack of tech nannies on the indian scout rogue be a deal breaker for a beginner bike. My riding experience is basically a yamaha moto 4 when I was a tike then a 1975 yamaha 250 Enduro I rode off road for quite a few years
If you have ABS that's really all you need. You won't be going fast enough as a beginner to need more advanced electronics. Maybe traction control but not necessary.
How does the compare to the ducati monster 1200s
Loving my FTR 100% carbon 2024 it's gorgeous and rides like a demon
OC - Never ridden an Indian before, but just knowing what I know about EURO 4/5 compliance, I'm sure it's a tuning issue that most mfg are having to comply with. If you can get a decent tune put on it, it would help regulate the air/fuel mixture a bit better. My Diavel 1260 has a similar problem. Great content as usual Chase, keep it coming!
Tune turns these into a whole new bike no joke
The FTR is a real beast
Awesome bike. I think the base model is good enough.
That's my idea of a motorsickle!
The low speed or steady speed characteristics of this bike are very weird. I have such a love/hate relationship with this bike. Currently it's a love love - it's a really fun bike to ride at high speed. At low speed it's herky jerky and strange. Love the cruise control but again at low or moderate speeds, it's still herky jerky. It is not super comfortable for longer rides and the fuel mileage is awful awful awful, but it is an incredble machine and fun as hell to ride!
Good and honest review. Everything you said is true. But it's still a fun bike to ride!!
My 2022 has never had wiggling in the handlebars.
Very quiet exhaust
Bar end mirrors, aftermaket exhaust and some type of undertail plate holder.
That would round out this bike.
I found it sits to high for me personally.
The 2022/23 models (apart from the Rally) have a lower seat height than the original 2019, it's now 780mm (30.7in). I'm only 5ft 8in with a 31in inside leg, and I can flat foot on it.
This is like getting a “letter from the kidnappers”(jokes folks, zero ill will) is Chase ok. I hope yes🎉❤
The bike "surges". Especially in cruise control.
I love it though.
OC: that's a shame the ftr doesn't do it for you, I've always loved the looks of it but never rode one before. 👍
woah that’s me at 4:10
Is it close to scrambler 1200 ??
Why buy this over a Streetfighter V2?
Indian does have a problem, across FTR and the Scout. Only brand that's tried to kill me twice, with what seems to be a bad programming or design of power delivery under specific situations. Most of the time it was during left lean situations at two very different speeds. 45 and 7... The 7mph was an aggressive high side due what seems to be bad geometry and horrific power delivery. Complete lack of throttle response for about 0.5 to 1 second, followed by an overflood of power. Not fun... I own an Indian, Kawi, KTM, Honda, and a couple of dirt bikes. Never have I ever experienced anything like this...twice!
This or the guzzi? I assume they compare power, brembo, ohlins, weight, "cruiser"...
Love it
Pin?
It’s an American motorcycle it’s not metric so it’s going to be quirky. I am taking delivery on a FTR tomorrow. As always great video.
I wouldn't trade my 2023 Indian FTR 1200 Sport for anything!!! Why rain mode in the dry??? Strange! My FTR corners and rips better than any other naked I've ridden!!
Demo day coming up ....looking forward to riding this a few times + some scouts & sixty's.
I must say that is a very good looking motorcycle for a naked bike
Calling a spade a spade!👍👍👍
OC: pretty bummed out about the cons, but she does look pretty 🤩
God thats a gorgeous bike. That screen would tick me off though haha.
Chillin at about 130 on the highway... Adjust the suspension a little bit and she'll be perfect... Haha... constant on the throttle, oscillating??? Maybe you're just really weak. I've never noticed that.
I tested this thing last year. I just couldn't get into it. Like it felt kinda weak on power even in sport. I rather have an Mt-09.
Weak?...you sure you tested this bike? Dude, I have a zx1400, a Carbon Diavel, (As well as a vrod muscle, CVO Convertible...profile photo, and a CVO RK...none of those as a power reference for to this bike) but yeah, I have lots of seat time on super-bikes, and while this Indian is as far from a true Sport Bike as it can get, it certainly is NOT weak. I don't even like Indian motorcycles (EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE) and after test riding the FTR Rally and the Carbon, I'm about to buy that Rally. 0 to about 80, this damned bike is a beast!
The FTR suffers from poor foot peg placement. It's way too high for the frame and seating position. There's a kit that lowers the pegs down by a TON and it's sooo SO much more comfortable. It's a must have mod for anyone wanting to hoon or stunt around on.
What is that kit?
Yeah, I might have to look into that. It is basically my only mild complaint about the bike besides the fact that my 2019 is a thigh roaster.
I wonder what the reliability will be like indian is the only bike that was rated below Harley
For 17k you’d think they would include a quick shifter and a steering dampener.
the difference between the 2 speed numbers is hella big
Chase on seems to really hate this Bike... this is an example of cruiser bike riders should just stick to what they know. Check out Motojitsu's Review of this bike for a professional review of 2 of the FTR 1200 models. This is an advanced riders bike and not for beginners. If you cant ride it in Sport Mode its too much bike for you and you shouldn't ride it. I bought a New 2023 FTR 1200 Sport from Indian for $13,057 last month. It has the torque and handling of a liter bike with a flat track naked look and feel. I have owned a 05 GSXR 1000, Katana 1200, 1200 Bandit, several smaller bikes and currently selling my 2008 NightRod for a couple reasons. 1. Missed having a bike that corners well. 2. missed instant power all through the RPMs. 3. Wanted a current model that parts are not obsolete soon. 3. Bought a FTR 1200 after looking at all the drones built in Japan, italy and were ever KTMs are built to find I really wanted a wicked quick Hooligan medium sized frame bike that had 2024 electronics (cornering ABS, Nav, Music etc), a sport bike feel with naked bike ergo's, and I wanted a bike that was rare on the street. Chase thanks for crapping on the FTR and keeping others away from it. Its a beast and way to much bike for most cruiser riders...
5:00 beginning
Is the heat generated by the engine unbearable? Great video otherwise!
You can twist the throttle the wrong way and it kills the cruise control
Ryan F9 believes this is the most beautiful motorcycle.
[everyone liked that] ..i mean look at it, so much beauty to see.. from the side :)) the only idol i would have on a poster \m/
Mine definitely turns heads. The first day I rode mine I stopped at a gas station and some random guy asked to take a picture of it. Lol
Sounds like a Kettle whistle at idle.
I absolutely loved the FTR when I demoed it. It isn't that light though. It's over 500lbs iirc.
Edit: Indian really needs to work on their fueling in a big bad way. Even the Scout I test rode was kinda wonky.
Where's the gas tank?
You don’t need the steering damper because of the long wheel base. Even the super hooligan race bike doesn’t have steering damper and they are going much faster than you ever be.
A large pot hole, bump or doing wheelies can still cause a tank slapper so I would argue a steering dampener could still help
Test rode a ftr the other day. Beautiful bike, smooth (clutch too smooth as vid said) but yar, i wasnt impressed.
3 seconds in this vid from 40 to 60 says a bit (not the quickest beast thats for sure)
Ndian'z,Mechanical-Cheetah;iz FTR-series.
Dunno why you wobbling at 80, my base will go 125, no problem
My 2022 FTR Carbon oscillates. It’s kinda weird
Tune it. That will stop.
You have to get it tuned to resolve the surging issue. Its annoying and its very noticeable when using the cruise control.
GSX-8s 👀👀❓
You son of a bitch, you found one. 😂
Hope you enjoyed the ride! 😊
The MT 09 is better and the 09 sp is even better
The exhaust pipes look so awkward on this bike. It’s like it was a afterthought.
Californian here, and it’s crazy ya’ll can’t filter and lane split, huge gaps too
Schwinn=Bike;&Ndian/H.D.=Cycle.
Any experienced rider i need your HELP!!! Im looking to get a bike to do uber eats, il be riding 7days a week 8-12 hours a day. My market is full of drivers so getting a bike is my last bet to keep doing this. PLEASE Help a brother out and give me some advise. What beginner bike would be best for this??
A large scooter, 400cc or more.
Beautiful bike but definitely needs some tweaking. But for $17k? PASS
Similar price to a MT10. And when thats considered, there is no competition.
you get more power with the MT10 and Yamaha reliability is priceless
Its a Ducati Scrambler
I feel like the foot peg position doesn’t match the upper body position. I feel like they need to be a little lower and more forward. Like 1inch down and 1 forward
Absolute terrible choice in B-Roll music, but awesome video as always 💪🏿
“in Europe” 😁
I prefer Harley strictly for the options on accessories. OC
What Harley are you comparing this to exactly?
@@MrGorillaman22 You want me to ask that question?😂
@CASPA_THE_GH0ST sure, bro 😂
@@MrGorillaman22 HD Street Rod😂
What? 😂
comparing the FTR to the MT-10SP is just wrong, not even remotely similar except MSRP. It's more like a BMW R Nine T, or a Speed Twin 1200.
Mt 10 over this hands down... it does look beautiful though
Completely different types of bikes. The power delivery on this is more like a hammer, rather than the smooth progression of the MT. This is more flat track hooligan than a naked super sport.
17k bike and has the ugly 1980’s turn signals , should be LED’s , and that license plate holder just kills it for me ! Plate / signals should be under the seat ! For their TOL bike…..it’s lacking ! Other than that it looks bad ass !
They are LED's though...
Much more bike than I need but that has nothing to do with anything. Another abysmal factory exhaust that will cost a large chunk to recycle. I get that manufactures are constrained by regulations but what’s the point if most people are going to yeet the whole system immediately
Why do they make the exhausts look so Beefy and then sound so crappy.
He's been doing first rides for eight years and reviewed over 100 motorcycles but uses the term "throttling" instead of fueling. Come on guy.
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