This video makes me want to try food grade tanker. The process looks enjoyable for some reason. Better than sitting in a dock waiting for a lift driver to unload me.
Great video! For the newbies, there's basically 2 different types of tankers, some have pumps that pump the product in or out like this one, and then there are others where you pump air in or out of the tank creating a vacume or pressure. Two totally different operations.
Blaklizted Joker John has a couple videos on that. For me I applied online and a recruiter got me set up with orientation and then went thru a 2 day tanker course that teaches the basics. I was hired on as a lead driver, your process maybe different if you have no experience. John has some videos on that you should watch.
This video was extremely helpful. I just obtained my CLP with tanker endorsement and greatly appreciate this walk through instruction. Definitely one I will have on repeat. I've had my eye on Prime, Schneider and Flying pilot J. This makes me think Prime is a great place to start.
he does a good job of showing what it takes to pump. but prime treats their drivers like crap. lots of down time with no pay. they hang around tank washes for days waiting on loads. flying j would be better, they keep you moving and you have a set schedule. course your hauling gasoline and diesel which is more dangerous. plus you have to learn to also load your own trailer not just unload. but unloading is just gravity feed no pumping. plus truck stops are much cleaner and safer than chemical plants. some of them are real sh*t holes. gas is shift work no sleepers all day cabs. worked 40 yrs working chemical and fuel 15 of them for Amaco/Bp. they sure dont pay what they used to but thats the way of the world.
John, in your last video you said that Prime does not pay for you to pump, even though this would count as "on duty". All I can say is you're a better man than me. Outstanding job John
kyle mckee agreed with that but I guess it’s all inclusive in their rates thank goodness I’m a chemical hauler we get paid for everything we touch while unloading/loading
friendlywhiteguy yes depending upon the product being unloaded at the time most of your corrosives/acids you’ll suit up but a majority of the time you’ll be just fine in shorts and a t shirt but I have yet to use my respirator just haven’t unloaded a chemical that requires its use
That hose will defiantly hold more than 5 gallons....I clean prime trailers all day long...but I have to say. You left the back box the cleanest I’ve seen any prime driver leave the back...pretty Clean 3 series u have there
Hi John, Great job with all of your videos.....Thanks for your time and effort. I'm considering driving for Prime, actually more like adapting my life as so I would be able to drive dedicated tanker. So when I came across your video's you definitely got my attention. Thanks buddy, you will be on the referral for sure.
great job....i'm just starting a job running a tanker up here in the Alberta oifields after having not run a tanker in a while and that was very informative even if a different product...i'm subscribing and will watch your other videos, Don Johnson
What are you hauling in the tanker ? I work in oil field hauling salt water all day home daily but damn 45 mins to unload I'd be bored lol my pump on my Pete takes me 15 mins to load and unload do you have to stay and watch it unload or do you sit down in truck and wait ?
Thank you for sharing this video especially with this much detail much appreciated brother, I believe you just made my job so much easier and less messy. Thank you thank you
Does Prime pay accessorial pay? I mean do they pay the driver when the tanks are getting washed, when you are pumping out/in the product, etc. Thank you in advance for your reply since I have submitted and application to Prime.
Hi John. Do you know which should be the correct working pressure of the loading/unloading motor pump on your tanker? (the pressure on the hydraulic lines?)
I'm not with prime but are set up maybe same. I engage the PTO switch in cab and then set the engine idle at 900 RPMs. Go behind cab an check PTO. Fluid level Sight glass and the fan is blowing .
Thanks for the informative videos John. I had a couple questions: As trucking is a bit seasonal how bad do the slow times get for tanker drivers? Are there ever any periods where they just don't have anything for you or are are you busy throughout the year?
Thanks for the video. I plan on joining prime to get my cdl. I already have my permit with tanker endorsement. How do you like working with them and tanks... any advice you can recommend to me.
John Ogren gotcha, I pull the same trailer day in day out, pump on and off around 3 loads a day. Bending has never been a issue with my setup. In my 19 years on the road I've never pulled food grade. I've noticed some of the LP guys disconnect theirs also but never thought much about it.
larry ellyson next time you see a Prime tanker, check out the hydraulic connections. About half our trailers connectors are bent from the dumbasses who were too lazy to disconnect while repositioning. Be safe & thanks for watching
You forgot to check for seals inside your hose before u connect to the outlet valve but u did check for your seal inside your hose before u connected to the customer inlet valve
Hi you made two mistakes when you found your cam locks where loose you only put one part of the metal seal in but sometimes they are a lot looser then that and you have to double them up so cam locks are tight and you need to push the hoses all the way in so they don’t bounce and the cap can come off also on your seal at the door you need too wrap it around the handle and lock to make sure it doesn’t come open on the road
After everything is connected/right before you actually start pumping. Disconnect after you finish pumping & have reversed the pump & closed the valves. Then you disconnect everything.
+Luis Sanchez Personally, I drive my car to the terminal & back. Similar to reefer or flatbed, you can take the truck & trailer (tank) home for hometime if you have parking. I did before when I lived in Michigan
So what happens if your hydraulics don't work? And you broke the seals? You should always run your hydraulics first and foremost. Because you or your company own that load if your hydraulics are down and the seals are broke.
The main problem with your suggestion is that the hydraulic directional control valve is located inside the rear cabinet, which means you have to break the seal in order to test the hydraulics. As to your, "what if," scenario, SOP is for dispatch to locate an available driver who can access another clean trailer. That way, the second driver can use their hydraulic PTO and the pump from the clean trailer to offload the broken system.
@@JohnOgren Yeah, I get it. Not being mean...But. But your tanks are a bad setup. And I don't think thats good SOP. At least at Johnsrud they have a alternative method of airing the load off. Schneiders in Phoenix Arizona will just tell you to leave. And get all up in Cargills anus about getting another load out to them. I've been in the food grade game for a long while. I started running pumps with Cal Western Transport (No longer exists). Went to Johnsrud. And along with a friend am at Button now (7 years). But now that I've seen your cabinet, I kinda wonder. I'd rather have external controls, 3 valve set up. Along with a sight tube between the pump and the top pipe. Makes it so much easier. You know when your unloaded. Your not on that ladder all the time checking. As you well know some places are clean and well maintained and others not so much. Walking on oily surfaces and walking up ladders do not mix. So the sight tube dealio works. Your procedures are pretty spot on. The goal is not to make a mess. I've seen guy's do it. I have a good friend who is a owner operator for Idaho Milk. They don't train anyone on the pumps. He didn't understand about backing the pump off. Made big mess. What was sad I was three blocks away at a customer unloading and he didn't call me. I've blown hydraulics out as well. But I never unsealed the load. So I could leave the facility to get them repaired. Not waiting for some queef that dispatch can't get ahold of, because he's log jamming the fuel island on his 30 minute break. Sitting in Wendy's.
@@DutchK75 um, okay. In almost 5 years, I've helped (been the 2nd truck) a total of twice (and both were because the customer refused to allow the initial driver to rebuild their own pump) and never needed someone to come "rescue" me (knock on wood lol). Perhaps you should try better quality equipment? Also, who said there wasn't secondary way (air) to unload our trailers? Because there is. Yes, a sight glass would be nice, but I hardly think our system is as bad as you make it out to be. Finally, with what I do, we pump likely upwards of 5-10 times a week, compared to our OTR drivers, who may pump once a week if that. In my time doing this dedicated, I don't know of a single dedicated truck that has had their hydraulics blow out, save an idiot here or there who forgot to detach their lines & ripped them off the truck. In other words, hydraulic lines and the PTO ain't high up on my list of shit to worry about 🤷♂️
@@JohnOgren I didn't mean to offend you. I'm pretty black and white about things. I'm at Button because we have new equipment for the most part that is maintained. And my boss is cool as hell. Sometimes our crap is dirtier on the outside more than I'd like to see. But that comes with running out west. Lots of dirt. Your procedures were on point though. It's nice to see someone that actually knows how to unload a trailer. Showing people. The best one for me was in OKC unloading grape juice into totes. The guys there were moving the hose from tote to tote...Well, this kid was there and he decided to give the other guy a break I guess. Hose got away from him...I had never really seen what happens when a 3" hose shoots grape juice. Blasted the entire wall of the place like he had a fire hose. And it was only a few seconds. I was utterly thoroughly entertained.
i tried to lease onto prime in the tank part, but they told me i couldn't use my own truck. i had to buy a truck from them. and mine was a new truck. maybe 4 months old then. so i stayed where i was until i got into heavy haul and super loads. i loved the tanker but super loads just paid to good not to change.
The velcro straps are part of the kit Prime requires tanker drivers to buy when starting out. If I need more, they are available at all our terminals and at most tank washes
@@JohnOgren Hi brother are you still at prime inc ?if so I'm be attending prime inc next month and I want to know can you train me?I'm joining tankers division. Thanks
Zt Weve problem. I've never hauled one. Tim Binkley, shop foreman in Decatur has done a video available on the my Prime section of the app or website - assuming you're a prime employe
Did you even watch the video? I literally mention venting immediately after hooking up my hydraulic lines & how I couldn't take video on top of the trailer
Well, I don't clean them, a tank wash does. There'sa little bit of an explanation in this video, plus check out the Decatur inside tour video. Thanks for watching ua-cam.com/video/ecgPRcO7yMw/v-deo.html
This video makes me want to try food grade tanker. The process looks enjoyable for some reason. Better than sitting in a dock waiting for a lift driver to unload me.
I hear one of the best things about tanker driving is pretty much zero wait time to get loaded or unloaded.
It's not a bad gig if you get with the right company.
Great video! For the newbies, there's basically 2 different types of tankers, some have pumps that pump the product in or out like this one, and then there are others where you pump air in or out of the tank creating a vacume or pressure. Two totally different operations.
Tomorrow is my first day by myself as a prime tanker driver, looking forward to it!
How was the process like? I've been trying to get on with Prime, and was looking at either tanker or flatbed as a more active alternative to reefer.
Blaklizted Joker John has a couple videos on that. For me I applied online and a recruiter got me set up with orientation and then went thru a 2 day tanker course that teaches the basics. I was hired on as a lead driver, your process maybe different if you have no experience. John has some videos on that you should watch.
GOOD LUCK
Mitchellpilot909 Do prime send you home with your truck for home time. Or do you have to park it where they ask?? Thanks in advance for the knowledge.
Excited to start with Prime soon.
This video was extremely helpful. I just obtained my CLP with tanker endorsement and greatly appreciate this walk through instruction. Definitely one I will have on repeat. I've had my eye on Prime, Schneider and Flying pilot J. This makes me think Prime is a great place to start.
ITS NOT
he does a good job of showing what it takes to pump. but prime treats their drivers like crap. lots of down time with no pay. they hang around tank washes for days waiting on loads. flying j would be better, they keep you moving and you have a set schedule. course your hauling gasoline and diesel which is more dangerous. plus you have to learn to also load your own trailer not just unload. but unloading is just gravity feed no pumping. plus truck stops are much cleaner and safer than chemical plants. some of them are real sh*t holes. gas is shift work no sleepers all day cabs. worked 40 yrs working chemical and fuel 15 of them for Amaco/Bp. they sure dont pay what they used to but thats the way of the world.
John, in your last video you said that Prime does not pay for you to pump, even though this would count as "on duty". All I can say is you're a better man than me. Outstanding job John
kyle mckee agreed with that but I guess it’s all inclusive in their rates thank goodness I’m a chemical hauler we get paid for everything we touch while unloading/loading
But John I do commend you on a Job well well done you’re the epitome of professionalism I like to see in us “yankers”
@@mrfab2011ls Do you have to wear all the safety gear stuff? Face mask, onezy suit, rubber boots/gloves, respirator etc?
friendlywhiteguy yes depending upon the product being unloaded at the time most of your corrosives/acids you’ll suit up but a majority of the time you’ll be just fine in shorts and a t shirt but I have yet to use my respirator just haven’t unloaded a chemical that requires its use
That hose will defiantly hold more than 5 gallons....I clean prime trailers all day long...but I have to say. You left the back box the cleanest I’ve seen any prime driver leave the back...pretty
Clean 3 series u have there
Hi John, Great job with all of your videos.....Thanks for your time and effort. I'm considering driving for Prime, actually more like adapting my life as so I would be able to drive dedicated tanker. So when I came across your video's you definitely got my attention. Thanks buddy, you will be on the referral for sure.
great job....i'm just starting a job running a tanker up here in the Alberta oifields after having not run a tanker in a while and that was very informative even if a different product...i'm subscribing and will watch your other videos, Don Johnson
Thanks for sharing an AWESOME training video, be great to try and be a food grade tanker driver :)
Today is my second load and Im sure I will be asked to pump..ty!!!❤
Very helpful video John thank u, hopefully they accept my application looking forward to start new journey with tanker
very informative and patient, thank you. I'm still not sure if I want to work for Oakley Transport
Very good vid, switched from fb to tanker. Thanks so much!
WORKED FOR UNION FUEL/ CHEMICAL TANKER COMPANIES MY WHOLE LIFE. PRIME INC SHOULD BE THE LAST CO THAT YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO.
Thanks for the videos. I'll be with Schneider Bulk next week.
great video sir.You make everything look really easy.
Great job 👏
I noticed one of ur trailer has 6 ft hose connects to top and bottom like u shape hose. What hell that for
Great video!!
Great vid so detailed. Great camera
What are you hauling in the tanker ? I work in oil field hauling salt water all day home daily but damn 45 mins to unload I'd be bored lol my pump on my Pete takes me 15 mins to load and unload do you have to stay and watch it unload or do you sit down in truck and wait ?
Awesome! 💚💚👊🏾👊🏾
Thank you for sharing this video especially with this much detail much appreciated brother, I believe you just made my job so much easier and less messy. Thank you thank you
I Appreciate this video
Great video man! If I'm not mistaken you're at Turano's in Cicero.
Dropped a hose on the pan, back to the tank washer you go buddy 😂
What?
friendlywhiteguy , Cross Contamination
Does Prime pay accessorial pay? I mean do they pay the driver when the tanks are getting washed, when you are pumping out/in the product, etc. Thank you in advance for your reply since I have submitted and application to Prime.
No and no
@@JohnOgren Not kool on Prime to provide accessorial pay. It is best practice in the industry. Thank you for the reply.
I saw you hook up the hydraulic pump lines but I didn't see you turn on the pto in the truck. Is there a reason why?
Less to video 🤷♂️
How long doe it take to unload ?
Hi John. Do you know which should be the correct working pressure of the loading/unloading motor pump on your tanker? (the pressure on the hydraulic lines?)
I'm not with prime but are set up maybe same. I engage the PTO switch in cab and then set the engine idle at 900 RPMs. Go behind cab an check PTO. Fluid level Sight glass and the fan is blowing .
You forgot to show what to do in the driver's cabin. What button to press and how to manually get the tractor engine to pump out the product
Thanks for the informative videos John. I had a couple questions: As trucking is a bit seasonal how bad do the slow times get for tanker drivers? Are there ever any periods where they just don't have anything for you or are are you busy throughout the year?
It's never so slow that there's NOTHING to do...
Great info
Thanks for the video. I plan on joining prime to get my cdl. I already have my permit with tanker endorsement. How do you like working with them and tanks... any advice you can recommend to me.
Thank you so much!
Who is your fleet manager?
Why do you leave your hydro hoses unhooked when driving? I run a oil tanker, we never unhook our lines.
larry ellyson 1) different trailer every day, 2) the hydraulic lines will bend if you drive/turn with them hooked up
John Ogren gotcha, I pull the same trailer day in day out, pump on and off around 3 loads a day. Bending has never been a issue with my setup. In my 19 years on the road I've never pulled food grade. I've noticed some of the LP guys disconnect theirs also but never thought much about it.
larry ellyson next time you see a Prime tanker, check out the hydraulic connections. About half our trailers connectors are bent from the dumbasses who were too lazy to disconnect while repositioning. Be safe & thanks for watching
John Ogren I'll have a look next time I see one. It must be a completely different setup from mine.
Awesome video.
hi John you do a great demonstration. the pump out takes about an hour ? very informative.
Give or take, 45 min to an hour
You forgot to check for seals inside your hose before u connect to the outlet valve but u did check for your seal inside your hose before u connected to the customer inlet valve
Do you prefer tanker over the rest, I have my tanker/hazmat. Just trying to figure out my route. Thanks in advance
I have no experience besides driving bus & driving tanker, so, hard to say
same kind of system what I have transported liquid sugar.
Im going to prime in january might run tanker
Do you drop your airbags on the tanker?
Yes
Do they hire owner op?
Hi you made two mistakes when you found your cam locks where loose you only put one part of the metal seal in but sometimes they are a lot looser then that and you have to double them up so cam locks are tight and you need to push the hoses all the way in so they don’t bounce and the cap can come off also on your seal at the door you need too wrap it around the handle and lock to make sure it doesn’t come open on the road
Thanks for watching. I look forward to watching all you videos on this and other subjects 👌
Question what town is that it in Cicero Illinois? What the place call?
CICERO
Wow That Was Cool John !!!!!!!!!!!!
great video I wanna do tanker also but is there lot of waiting when doing tanker
ua-cam.com/video/ecgPRcO7yMw/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/se6HoeVS-JA/v-deo.html
Can you unload during rain?
Good question, Im wondering that too.
I'm in prime I want be on a tanker division but I don't have a trainer on tanker
You have to wait. It's a small division 🤷♂️
Do you do TNT ?
@@abrahammarin2674 no
At what moment you turned on and then off the PTO?
After everything is connected/right before you actually start pumping. Disconnect after you finish pumping & have reversed the pump & closed the valves. Then you disconnect everything.
Thank you John!!! Im about to pump at this Ponca City Location ❤
Good job!
👍👍👍
really good video
Hey John how long does it take for soybean oil to unload
With our pump, about 1000 lbs a minute, so 45-50 minutes. Customers pumps vary
A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN 5 GAL SPORT. USE WRAPS INSTEAD OF SHIMS
Mr John after every delivery do you have to get the tank washed ?
Yes. There are a few customers who allow us to "top load," which is loading the same product as was last hauled.
Thanks again for the info do you take the tanker home
+Luis Sanchez Personally, I drive my car to the terminal & back. Similar to reefer or flatbed, you can take the truck & trailer (tank) home for hometime if you have parking. I did before when I lived in Michigan
great video
So what happens if your hydraulics don't work? And you broke the seals? You should always run your hydraulics first and foremost. Because you or your company own that load if your hydraulics are down and the seals are broke.
The main problem with your suggestion is that the hydraulic directional control valve is located inside the rear cabinet, which means you have to break the seal in order to test the hydraulics.
As to your, "what if," scenario, SOP is for dispatch to locate an available driver who can access another clean trailer. That way, the second driver can use their hydraulic PTO and the pump from the clean trailer to offload the broken system.
@@JohnOgren Yeah, I get it. Not being mean...But. But your tanks are a bad setup. And I don't think thats good SOP. At least at Johnsrud they have a alternative method of airing the load off. Schneiders in Phoenix Arizona will just tell you to leave. And get all up in Cargills anus about getting another load out to them.
I've been in the food grade game for a long while. I started running pumps with Cal Western Transport (No longer exists). Went to Johnsrud. And along with a friend am at Button now (7 years). But now that I've seen your cabinet, I kinda wonder. I'd rather have external controls, 3 valve set up. Along with a sight tube between the pump and the top pipe. Makes it so much easier. You know when your unloaded. Your not on that ladder all the time checking. As you well know some places are clean and well maintained and others not so much. Walking on oily surfaces and walking up ladders do not mix. So the sight tube dealio works. Your procedures are pretty spot on. The goal is not to make a mess. I've seen guy's do it. I have a good friend who is a owner operator for Idaho Milk. They don't train anyone on the pumps. He didn't understand about backing the pump off. Made big mess. What was sad I was three blocks away at a customer unloading and he didn't call me. I've blown hydraulics out as well. But I never unsealed the load. So I could leave the facility to get them repaired. Not waiting for some queef that dispatch can't get ahold of, because he's log jamming the fuel island on his 30 minute break. Sitting in Wendy's.
@@DutchK75 um, okay. In almost 5 years, I've helped (been the 2nd truck) a total of twice (and both were because the customer refused to allow the initial driver to rebuild their own pump) and never needed someone to come "rescue" me (knock on wood lol). Perhaps you should try better quality equipment? Also, who said there wasn't secondary way (air) to unload our trailers? Because there is. Yes, a sight glass would be nice, but I hardly think our system is as bad as you make it out to be. Finally, with what I do, we pump likely upwards of 5-10 times a week, compared to our OTR drivers, who may pump once a week if that. In my time doing this dedicated, I don't know of a single dedicated truck that has had their hydraulics blow out, save an idiot here or there who forgot to detach their lines & ripped them off the truck. In other words, hydraulic lines and the PTO ain't high up on my list of shit to worry about 🤷♂️
@@JohnOgren I didn't mean to offend you. I'm pretty black and white about things. I'm at Button because we have new equipment for the most part that is maintained. And my boss is cool as hell. Sometimes our crap is dirtier on the outside more than I'd like to see. But that comes with running out west. Lots of dirt.
Your procedures were on point though. It's nice to see someone that actually knows how to unload a trailer. Showing people.
The best one for me was in OKC unloading grape juice into totes. The guys there were moving the hose from tote to tote...Well, this kid was there and he decided to give the other guy a break I guess. Hose got away from him...I had never really seen what happens when a 3" hose shoots grape juice. Blasted the entire wall of the place like he had a fire hose. And it was only a few seconds. I was utterly thoroughly entertained.
How tall are the food grade trailers?
About 11'
@@JohnOgren 48 ft long right?
@@TTVZicaZachh yes
i tried to lease onto prime in the tank part, but they told me i couldn't use my own truck. i had to buy a truck from them. and mine was a new truck. maybe 4 months old then. so i stayed where i was until i got into heavy haul and super loads. i loved the tanker but super loads just paid to good not to change.
What are super loads?
@@burtonh1 super loads are 250,000 pounds or more.
PRIME INC TANKER OUR PUMP
Great video John. Where do you get the rubber straps from?
The velcro straps are part of the kit Prime requires tanker drivers to buy when starting out. If I need more, they are available at all our terminals and at most tank washes
@@JohnOgren Hi brother are you still at prime inc ?if so I'm be attending prime inc next month and I want to know can you train me?I'm joining tankers division. Thanks
@@ramonekent7186 I am at Prime but I don't train
who cleans out the tanks?
Mark Rosado ua-cam.com/video/ecgPRcO7yMw/v-deo.html
Thx for the quick reply. I missed that video
How about a video on those new three hole chocolate trailers y'all got... The pump is different.
Zt Weve problem. I've never hauled one. Tim Binkley, shop foreman in Decatur has done a video available on the my Prime section of the app or website - assuming you're a prime employe
🙌🏼🙌🏼👏🏼👏🏼💯❤️🇺🇸🙏🏼🙏🏼
How dare you assume that fitting's gender.
@Kamper Ken 🤣🤣🤣
What about venting the dome up at the top of the tanker?
Did you even watch the video? I literally mention venting immediately after hooking up my hydraulic lines & how I couldn't take video on top of the trailer
hey John a'm new to your video can dema stretch how you clean your tanker thank you
Well, I don't clean them, a tank wash does. There'sa little bit of an explanation in this video, plus check out the Decatur inside tour video. Thanks for watching
ua-cam.com/video/ecgPRcO7yMw/v-deo.html
Thanks
let me guess.... mcdonalds special sauce
HEY JOHN TELL THEM HOW OFTEN YOU JUST SIT AROUND NOT GETTING PAID WORKING FOR PRIME.
We're not allowed to have facial hair instantly jealous
I thought hazmat drivers had to keep a shaved face due to mask fitting in case of emergency
Prime does not haul hazmat tanker
Great video!
Great video