Gene Krupa in a 1945 movie - COOL!! - HQ
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- Buddy Rich, of whom this uploader has up- and down-loaded a NUMBER of pieces, was undoubtedly TECHNICALLY the Greatest Drummer In The World - but Gene had PIZZAZZ! The movie is "George White's Scandals".
My Father, Murray Williams is in this video. Alto Sax player 2 away from Charlie Ventura. ( second from left) Dad met my Mother, Marge after this video was made. They met at the Hollywood Palladium.
+Eric Williams cool! I love family stories with these bands---its very special that you shared--I will look again--
Genial.. ❤
That is so cool
Saw Gene Krupa play live in 1969 in NYC, 2 back to back 45 minutes sets. The man is beyond compare in style, ability and showmanship. Just a man and hid drums.
krupa is the grandfather of drummers.his career started 20's jazz.my fav cool guy in early jazz along with bix etc.this video is great.
For my two bits worth Gene Krupa is and always will be The King of Skins. Krupa did more to bring the drums from being a Time Keeping instrument to a instrument to solo with than any one else. Buddy Rich was probably better in technical playing but Krupa could swing plus he knew how to add fills, rim shots or even just a single beat on the tom toms to enhance the music. A great musician who gave a lot back to music. Heaven must have a Hell of a Band, R.I.P Gene Krupa and Thank you for posting this one..
Regards, Denis.
Woao. I have discovered the difference between Krupa and Buddy: Krupa is joy, and Buddy is just seriousness.
Unfortunately, Buddy Rich was TEN TIMES THE DRUMMER KRUPA WAS! Krupa “Exaggerated” his arms movements with very little sound generated! He was more into “Style vs Substance”! PERIOD!
My dad Ted Blume is the violinist to right of Krupa who asks for the number of the girl in the red salami. he is 27 years old there - same age as my son Ross Blume...never saw the clip before. Thanks. Dad passed away in 1992 but was married to my mom at the Waldorf before they want to Hollywood to shoot this film.
gene krupa, greatest drummer of all time;;;;end off
My preference is for Gene because I find that his style leans more toward musicality than Buddy's. I mean that Gene's playing weaves into the fabric of the song, enhancing it rather than overwhelming it. Buddy's feels more like watching a percussive athletic event, rather than listening to a work of musical art. Now, I think that Buddy's pure skill and technical ability is the best that I've ever seen. When I listen to Buddy, it's to be wowed and amazed. And I am.
Edwardian8 ie. Buddy was a better drummer, but Gene was a better musician.
Good insights, I see what you mean.
David - - I am really sick of all these comparisons. When you get to a certain level, comparing Master musicians is stupid. Enjoy what each individual uniquely brings to the music. And FYI, Buddy was a better everything than Gene, musically speaking, of course. Buddy had many charts in the book that I feel Gene would have had a very hard time with. Again, you're comparing apples and oranges.
Gene is the reason I bought a pair of drumsticks when I was 10 and started banging on books on my bed. I had just seen The Gene Krupa Story on channel 9 after school, and I got THE BUG. Almost like divine intervention, the following year his daughter, Marygrace, is in my class at St. Denis School in Yonkers, NY and is sitting next to me. I got to be friends with her. We used to play checkers together during recess. I never got to meet her dad though. He died the year after Hi Marygrace! Kevin B.
I wish I could get women's names & phone numbers as easy as Gene Krupa could ( lol ).
No drummer has matched this guy on 'DRUMS', he was simply 'terrific'!
I know nothing about drummers. I only know I love the way Gene Krupa played. He was fun to watch and made any song sound great!
Then you must know something about drummers .
Could anything be more fun then being a band member with Gene Krupa? I doubt it.
WOW. I agree with another comment I read: This man should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! He's the world's first Rock drummer.
Krupa has a lot of 'joy' ---I think that defines his style--its quite infectious for the listener.
windstorm1000 Technically, it's very rhythmic. Easier to follow than Buddy.
Sort of like comparing John Bonham to Neil Peart. Same thing.
@Rodel757 So happy to hear kids are finally hearing great music again.I sometimes cry because I think kids are brainwashed into believing today's performers are the best ever.Please turn your friends on to this sweet sound.Luv'ya.
Holy cow!!! This is simply amazing. I wish that contemporary music was half as inspired, and/or talented.
Wow, there's a lot of references to taking drugs hereabouts. I don't think Gene was a dopehead. The odd 'stick of tea' was pretty much par for course in those days for some jazz musicians. True he was busted but most folk in the know now consider that he was pretty much set up. He never denied having smoked weed but always made the very good point that too much tea made you lose your sense of time and timing was the one thing a swing drummer couldn't afford to lose. He was one of the best.
Good to finally see the full scene in full quality! There's a very old clip of this that was uploaded in horrendous quality and no way to find out where it came from, stupid luck that I found this!
Well of course this was synched, but very well done. Gene and Buddy each said the other was the greatest. Gene's thing was that he could make a simple break or a single snare shot mean so much! Anyway, in 1962, Benny Goodman said of Gene, "He's still the best." Benny was the most demanding bandleader ever, and especially tough on drummers. And just for myself, I'd like to say that when it came to backing big band sections/driving dynamics, Gene and Buddy were equally fantastic. Listen to the record of Gene's 1941 band playing "Leave Us Leap", and also Artie Shaw's "Carioca" w/Buddy, to see what I mean.
Velociamator The bizarre thing is, where Gene is miming (to himself) he shows his genius even MORE. I mean, it's hard enough playing that well - but then to DUPLICATE it - and IN SYNCH!
+Velociamator its very sweet that both said the other was better. gentlemen in that era.
Velociamator A
Correct about Buddy & you forgotten Cozy Cole. But Krupa will always stay on top as the genius musician.
Krupa it's the most carismatic drummer in the history i can only watch buddy rich like for 20 minutes and then i get tired it's just to much, but i can hear gene the hole day and im never gonna get tired of him.
Thanks! I'm glad SOMEONE noticed that. I put together this montage - including the main number in the middle - as a sort of "compression" of the best bits of the film - and Gene. And I hoped UA-cam's systems wouldn't nause up my edit. For once, they DIDN'T!
It's been said that Kieth Moon modeled his style after Gene Krupa. I can totally see it here.
one of genes drum hereos was the great chick webb man could hit them skins
I play the drums . Drums are the complicated instruments to play . The drummer , the rhythm keeper is the true leader of the band , or orchestra . People look down on drummers with out us and our time keeping the whole thing falls apart
Gene Kruper was a great drummer . He shows here that drumming is just as class a playing a Harpsicord . And it is good exercise too.
any body want to know that one of the greatest song stylists EVER actually prefered being a drummer to being a singer: Karen Carpenter.
I do not complain about my life today, but I would give everything I have to live during the swing area
Very advanced and cool filming for the time! Nice!
I watch this & wonder if Keith Moon, madman drummer of the rock band The Who, took his cue from Gene Krupa's antics from this film. Gene was the original madman of the skins. Aside from that, what Gene Krupa is credited with is creating & polishing the showmanship of the drum solo performance great drummers like Buddy Rich improved upon years later & they continue to do today. Ginger Baker's drum solo "Toad" is based on Krupa drum licks from decades before. Gene admired drummer Chick Webb.
Yes Krupa was Keith Moon's Hero along with Beach Boys Drummer Dennis Wilson
At 1:07, no one's snare drum ever sounded better than Gene's! Such an incredibly fat and musical sound!
His drums are wide open-- look at the smaller tom in front--you can see he's removed the internal mufflers.
The movie is "George White's Scandals" and the song is "Leave Us Leap"
If You Play "It's Up To You", it sounds he same as "Leave Us Leap". Also "Ten Richie Drive" and "Three Men on "Third" sound the same.
Gene must have lost a pound in sweat after each performance--amazing performer--as you can see he did not do things half way.
Tan virtuoso el maestro Gene Krupa y con unas grandes energías y esos solos súper veloces es una genialidad!👌
Yes actually, Keith was influenced by Gene Krupa, Keith was facinated by him and adopted Krupa's style, as you can see.
Watch Keith Moon Behind the Music from VH1, they make mention of that in Keith's youth he loved Gene Krupa and so when he played the drums he "became" Krupa.
It is "George White's Scandals" - you are the THIRD person to ask that (the others were WAY down the comment thread) so I've now included the movie title in the info panel.
I demurred before as the film is not exactly a classic - and far less important than GENE! The STARS of the movie being now long-forgotten by all but die-hard "Hollywood Golden Era" fans, it only lights up when HE is on the screen!
You are right about Gene, he had presence, Pizzazz
I know Buddy Rich was the better drummer but Gene had this amazing special quality I love some of his Instrumentals and Anita O'day tunes with his Band these guys Rocked in the 40's!!
Ruckweiler, I too discovered Gene by accident, or should I say Benny, my best friend at the time had a brother who played clarinet and had been conscripted into the British army ,he gave me an LP of Goodman at Carnigie hall, well I played that until it was worn out, then got it on CD, then got the full, uncut version found in Benny's attic, bv Benny himself, this is music, but how do you introduce people to this? I am gladdened to read reviews from young people who have played enjoyed this.
He ain't coked out you joker. He is acting for the camera. Had you ever seen him in personal apperances, or heard interviews, you'd realize the guy was nothing short of a true gentleman. He had something Buddy Rich never had, and that was a stage presence...with and without the drums..
Technically really! if you are playing in one time signature at a time like Rich had to because he was not as brilliant as Krupa who could play in several at once.
Nothin' like playing instruments amongst a deck of cards :D
Wonder if the Moon's listened to Goodman at home before there son mimicked
Krupa and his charismatic gesture playing.
no discuss. gene krupa and buddy rich were the great drummers of the jazz history
The Man! Thanks for the video
I would bet five pounds or more. There's a photo in the GK bio. by Bruce Crowther of Krupa in '37. It was during a drum battle with Chick Webb. Krupa's hair is plastered to his head and the sweat has soaked through his suit jacket. Unbelievable! Playing like a wild-man while dressed in a suit and tie!
Gene Krupa is the drummer with the most style, heart and spirit, of all time.......
Gene Krupa is the man! He play with soul and Buddy play with technic and his ego, for me the best swing drummer all the time is Gene Krupa, sorry Bud.. RIP Krupa.
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A human mind is unique, due to the fact that our experiences in life are different. Comparing Krupa and Rich is a hopeless, and useless, thing to do.
buddy rich could NEVER hold a candle to either Krupa or Belson, rich had no style or class,compared to Krupa he was 2nd class
In the words of Lily Tomlin: Reality is a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs.
Krupa made drumming look fun.
So right..theres a 'drum battle' thing on youtube between Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich....Buddy's part really shows how he influenced John Bonham, especially if you listen to Johns drumming on 'Moby Dick'.
Very few of todays 'Stars" would have been allowed to do more than carry the luggage. These Cats could all read music and play the material under any circumstance. Four shows per night and back on the train.
GENE KRUPA INSPIRED KEITH MOON TO BE THE GREATEST ROCK AND ROLL DRUMMER OF ALL TIME.
This drummer man is the living end. He's the greatest and my hero in the music scene. He contributed so much to modern music and surely must be playing drums in the hereafter along with Roy Eldridge and others. Thanks so very much for the upload.
Keith Moon's dad - if Keith could have actually played, and kept, in tempo
Hi, question. Who was Joe Morello? Hadn't heard of him but always eager to learn.
Krupa was always one of my favorites. Hard to imagine anyone who can shine brighter.
Joe Morello was the great drummer of the Dave Brubeck quartet. Morello's solo on Take Five with Brubeck's group put him on everyone's radar. He was an excellent drummer.
I can definititely see the influence Krupa had on Keith Moon in this video.
@imonthebox Yep - it's "George White's Scandals" - there's a reference in the dialogue.
Gene and Buddy could make magic on a basic small kit.
Today's top drummers, seem to require massive kits and numerous cymbals, to play solos.
Can't they play a basic 4 piece kit, with feel.
They can, but they wanna express themselves with different sounds than people did 70 years ago
Roy Beckerman NO, I've seen 'em, usually up here.
Hotel California is wrong 90% of the time! it's triplets, guys, come on. And some simple fills.
if Don Henley doesn't screw with those fills, neither should you. :)
just found this video, and WOW !!!!!!
She was a very good drummer, but her singing was one of a kind.
The one, the man who brought the drums from the insignificent banger at the back to the forefront of swing music, like Benny said, Gene was the greatest, and if Benny said so it was gospel.
An example of a man who was a "born" leader. Lived, ate and felt the rhythm of the drums. Talk to me, babe!
This is by far my favorite Gene Krupa video...thanks!
Is it mania, primal or incredible showmanship? Maybe some of each. Incredible.
Gene was just GREAT !!
Dean what you have written is simply not correct - of course, Buddy was a genius and probably the greatest drummer to draw breath - no one argues this - but Gene was an incredible inspiration to millions of drummers - he was a gentle and very serious person far from the "egomaniac" you mention. He was a great showman and this plus his wonderful artistry on the drums (this is a Buddy Rich quote) made the drummer a high price guy and an inspiration to everyone - Gene Krupa gave so much to all of us drummers and Buddy would have been the first to tell you this
What's the name of this type of music, sorry I'm just a teenager that is digging in to some old stuff
Nana Agyeman JAZZ.
Peter Brightman I've heard the question "Who was the greatest drummer - Buddy or Gene?" so many times. Well, having seen and even MET the great Buddy several times (during the Seventies) and having NEVER seen Gene; here is MY opinion, for what it's worth: I believe Buddy was the greatest drummer TECHNICALLY - while Gene was the greatest (at his height) in terms of pure, animal STYLE. So - it's like comparing your favourite standup comedian with your favourite holiday resort - pointless!
Well said - - - these arguements about who was the better of the two and who was faster, etc, are for children, not for serious Jazz fans and professional musicians.
Buddy and Gene both contributed to drumming and Jazz history in their own way, with their own style - - - the very essence of what Jazz should be.
+Peter Brightman I agree--I can enjoy them both for slightly different reasons. I think it says a lot of both geniuses that they said the other was the better drummer.
Just look at what we have today....That alone puts Krupa and this kind of music on a whole different level.....
Gene Krupa had the class and he could make them skins really talk!!
in what movie is that scene where go to the band members as they play their parts, then he returns to the drums?, great scene!
Yeah' really! Even my grandparents era of the 30's was awesome! I'm a musician and love the music of the 1930's probably more than any other era because I can just relax when I listen to it. Seems like every other era requires the musician in me to come forward and compare this and that. With the 30's it was a complete feel, no solo happy cats eating up space, it was a cohesive sound that worked for the song, usually. This happened again in the mid 60's, another brilliant era for music.
i just love how much fun these guys are having.
got that tune in a 'drummin' man' columbia 2 record lp set-"disc jockey jump"?? anyhow gene & buddy will ALWAYS be compared & they had allot of respect for each other-glad i got to see gene at the metropole cafe in times sq.-he had eddie shu who played trumpet,sax &clarinet so he added allot to a trio. saw buddy with a big band out on l.i. @ 'poor peters' i believe & the best tune he did was 'the carioca'-a tune from his artie shaw days & the clarinet part was played wonderfully by the soprano sax man & then buddy just tore it up. to this day it's like the 'goodman' or 'shaw' question=they are BOTH terrific!
This Is Music! ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS EVER!!!
Another movie he's in is "The Gene Krupa Story". A must see for fans. I saw it about 5-6 years ago and blew me away!!!
So can Steve Gadd. I think the story goes that he wanted to take drum lessons, so his parents allowed it. But they insisted he learn tap-dancing as well. He practiced both behind a drum set.
Wonderful videos! I think you are so right on about Gene Krupa! G. K. has soul and he is such a captivating showman! Technically though I see Joe Morello as the best technician ever.
Joe Morello could sustain four separate rhythms simultaneously - that my friend is independence!
Don't know which movie this is, but I saw the Gene Krupa Story when I was a kid (about 50 years ago). I never forgot it. I've never seen a drummer like him.
See- "even a Pole can be a gentleman" to paraphrase Brucie Kibbutz.;)
Does anybody know where you can get a DVD of this movie? Krupa was a legend!
@TehGav AGREED! I have always decried those who try to compare the two. As a twenty-something (sadly, MANY years ago, now) I used to say Buddy was a TECHNICIAN - while Gene was an ANIMAL! (That was before the character in the Muppets, too). What I meant was that Gene had - like you say - SOUL.
Thus comparing them is like trying to compare Glenfiddick - with a '59 Caddy. (And don't ask me who's who, there!)
Simply the GOAT!
Remove recreational and mind-expanding drugs from showbiz and half the creativity would go with it.
Gene said "(Nicotine) harder to quit than booze or grass" (Quoted in Life Magazine--early '70s).
Good conductor, Gene reminds me in style, of Leonard Bernstein = a greater tribute I could not pay anyone.
Gene Krupa & His Band Plays Swing Jazz, But Very 「COOL」！！
Buddy idolized Gene, he copied his drum set which was not a 'kit', he even married Gene's girl friend Marie. Louie Bellson stated that every drummer alive should stand and salute towards Yonkers, New York because he made the drummer a high price guy. You younger cats know very little about the history of drumming and drummers. You watch a video or two and make uninformed judgments and opinions. You need to spend some real time learning about the founding fathers of modern drumming. Speed and chops aren't everything and I wish my first drumming idol who will remain number one in my heart and mind a Happy Birthday may he rest in peace.
Dick Cully agree, feel is everything:)
Before Gene,it was "how many guys in the band? well we got 15 plus a drummer". Gene Krupa changed that, like Hendrix or Keith Emerson with their showmanship, bringing the guitar and hammond out.
That being said, I couldnt see Gene playing "Time Check" or "Willowcrest". He was a dixeland/swing hybrid. Buddy was a swing/bop hybrid. Additionally, and this is according to Henry Adler, the extra motion, shoulders, hips, hurt him physically.
Edward - - - next time you audition for a band like the kind Gene played in, see if they give a shit about your rudiments.
The Krupa was born in South Chicago.
I do believe Buddy Rich was technically better. But, Gene Krupa is more fun, and his actual drumming is more interesting to a non-drummer musician as myself. Sadly, I never met Krupa, but I did meet Buddy Rich.
What an amazing era.
thats very well said
Krupa is way better than Rich. Krupa plays the drums, and Rich sounds like he is beating pots and pans. Being a sax player myself, there is a difference between a drummer, and a beater, and Rich is a beater, and Krupa is a drummer. Rich couldn't play in my band.
@85Aheadstix I was in no way puttin down Krupa and Rich may have ripped him off but he could do it faster....but Gene looking smoother doing it! I do like Krupa better then Rich but come on you can't knock either of them....they are Drummers Founding Fathers
Interesting to read contributors writing that Krupa was superior to Rich,I don't play anything but have read about Rich on Wikipedia and If what is written is true then Rich wrote the book on drumming,suggest people have a look for themselves at this article.
Keith Moon must have watched this 100 times as a kid? ;)
what is my heaven???
Playing in GK"s band for all time!!!
I'd trade a few years off my life for some time back then. I think Father Time's going rate is one year for one week. Pretty steep if you ask me, but the DeLorean is still back in 1955.
Couldn't agree more...Buddy was the best ever (technically) but Gene was the original showman....PAZZAZZ whatever...Gene Rocks! Brought the drummer out to the front....Love it!
Krupa played not only with Fun. But he was LETHAL on the drums. Listen to his notes and timing. Especially in the days drumsets were just coming up to be *important*
WTF kind of music is this!!!! What would these guys think of todays EDM? They'd want to destroy the human race.
To compare Gene to buddy would be hard, gene was in his prime about 20 years before buddy. 2 different styles but none the less both great drumming legends.