You should get one of those laser measuring tapes so you can give accurate distance measurements of the stopes. Just an idea. I use the one I have at work all the time and it's awesome
That might just work. I need to read the documentation for the Bosch laser measuring device I have to see what the upper limit is on its range. They are small and light and the Bosch one is pretty tough.
Thank you for the awesome and crazy explore, this one was very appreciated from the comfort of the couch! You guys awesome, thanks again and stay safe!
Just your descriptions that you diligently write is adventure in itself, and well worth the effort to read. Which I look forward to doing so almost as much as the videos you put out. Class act you are young man, and I'm honored to follow your adventures into the unknown darkness wherever you should choose to go. Be well, and stay safe in your wanderings, and thanks again for the ride.
@@TVRExploring Are we so few? Reading the description is the first thing I do, for fear of forgetting to do it after watching the video and trawling the comments. Spoils the surprise a bit sometimes, but all that does is hype me to see it in the video.
@@TVRExploring Well, I guess them folks only get half the back ground information, and thus miss out on the big picture, are as best as your research allows. Which I'm sure is sometimes very limited, figuring them ole boys were closed mouthed about anything, and everything. Considering, that the government types, just wanted a chunk of the profits. Then everybody else in they're minds, were out top backdoor them one way, are another. So either way, they were in someone's cross hairs, and I'm sure there were little profits for the majority of the miners as it was. Thanks once more young man, for all your efforts to make these as insightful, and informative as they are for everyone that views your videos, now, and hopefully far into the future
It’s always impressive what the old timers were capable of in the way of support in these areas. Years ago I was lucky enough to take a trip down in one of the Salt caverns under the south edge of Lake Erie here in Ohio. That was in the Mid 1970s. I believe that the area I was in was soon sealed up and used for Propane storage. I know the workings I was lucky enough to see were incredible. The size of the place was unbelievable areas so large your light barely lighted the ceiling above your head. Carving along the walls that miners made that I’m sure are now forever lost. You do an excellent job of letting people see our past. 👍 🇺🇸🦅🌏⚓️🇺🇸
Everything is so impressive - how flat and level the floors of the drifts are, the amount of effort and expertise put into the woodwork and ladders etc. It's one thing to watch u guys enter a mine like this where there has been eons of time for dust to settle etc. With the good lighting that you have, these places are almost mystical. But I can just imagine what it must have been like when it was working. The noise must have been something - and coming from all around you - and from up and below. And the dust. Man the stories these guys could tell.
Every time I see one of your new videos, I have a near panic attack thinking about being in those spaces. I must have died in a mine collapse in a previous life because I literally feel like I’m suffocating watching you go down some of these ladders. Say safe my brother
Once again a real interesting explore. Commentary, description and photography is first rate. Always awesome channel. I’ll watch this one again when I get something to indulge! Keep em coming little brother
TVR first...not one but two unplugged ore chutes. Those stopes were epic. When your exploring partner got in the frame, the scale clicked with me. Again, thanks for taking us along Justin.
I was thinking to myself when you first showed the winze/ore pass that was the mine the Mine Explores went down a few months back! One hell of a large mine. see you on the next mine explore. 👍
The wear on the ladder rungs. It looks like wherever you went that everything is coated in very fine powdery dust which seems unique compared to other mines.
Amazing! The amount of work it took to move the material. As you said "A huge Mine." You have explained it to me before, but I still cannot see how you don't get lost!
Hi I’ve been watching your videos for quite some time now and Ive been meaning to ask you what TVR stands for. I couldn’t figure it out yet. Cheers and stay safe out there.
"None of us had seen that much effort put into plugging a shaft before. That would suggest this destruction was a project funded by the government as it seems unlikely that anyone else would waste money like that." True.Nothing is quite so vindictive or thorough in laying waste as government hell bent to do things "for your own good".
Hi Justin, that mine was just filled with pitfalls, dodgy ore chutes and even sketchier false floors but you guys handled it like Indiana Jones lol. The mine itself looks massive though, a real shame you couldn't reach the lower levels yourself. A fantastic video and explore, thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💖
Thank you, Sue. Yes, this mine definitely had a number of sporty sections in it and an overall "Indiana Jones" feel to it... And, yes, it was massive! This video was just one of eight levels and this wasn't even one of the larger levels!
@@TVRExploring It was a really cool explore and I'm guessing you prefer the harder one's in a way as it must be boring just walking through a straight shot featureless mine. xx
another hell of a mine, just looking at all the huge timbers and the lesser ones in a lot of mines I am amazed that there are any trees left in the states, but just seen your gear demo, and hey ho there's tres lol
The eastern slopes of the Sierras were absolutely raped for timbers for the underground mines in Nevada. A good amount of the forests ended up underground...
it amazes me how much the wood holds for all those years, i have seen steel scaffold poles bend under much less weight. i can only assume the fibressness and flexibilty could be the answer. whats your take on it you have the experience and closeness to say..
Some modern mines use steel girders in particularly bad sections, but wood is very strong as well and, as I understand it, gives more of a warning when a section of a mine is beginning to fail. Also, wood is cheaper, much easier to work with and doesn't rust!
Love all the ladders with the busted out rungs. How about climbing to the bottom level to film the half dozen skeletons lying at the base of each wrecked ladder. Yaaa Hooooooo! Just like Wile E Coyote.
Holy...shit. That room is..... I don’t even know. Incredibly huge doesn’t quite seem to accurately cover the bases...kinda reminiscent of the open stopes up near that spot I was telling you about, actually, but this is quite a bit bigger and less open to the outside. [edit; my gods man, you have balls of steel on those false floors... good choice on calling it when you did, but you uh... whew. God damn. Broke a sweat just watching that... that aside though, pretty damn impressive woodworkings In this one for sure. So amazing to see what the old timers toiled away at under everyone’s feet and all those tons of rock and dirt all those years ago... so very impressive.]
Yes, sometimes adjectives like "big" and "huge" just don't seem sufficient, you know? Haha, yes, that spot where I called it was a little too sporty even for me. Indeed, it is incredibly impressive what the miners built underground here. There is hardly a trace of this massive mine left on the surface...
Were those just wedged slabs you were passing in an effort to get to the bottom through that hole?! Super sketchy mine but really awesome, like Moria! Colours were awesome, too! Thanks for the adventure, as always! :-)
When you just had the Go-Pro om heading down the stope, everything on every angle and ladders on their side made it very confusing to get a grasp of what was up or down. Then stones go hurtling down and I had it all wrong. And then you crazy people doing this underwater, omg. btw the off the cuff "Crucifying the wood", sentence was poetic and foretelling of your wise decision to not cross the next section.
Well, that GoPro gives a good sense of how it looks for us because we're ducking and twisting all around to get down those things most of the time... Ha, yes, that section where we opted to turn around was a little too sporty even for me!
Its unfortunate that only the first 3 levels are accessible. Mine Explorers said there were 8 or 10? Great stuff nonetheless and some of those passages looked super sketchy, I'm happy you called it at 20:50, looked like in a jump and run PC game.
Usually I manage to watch your videos without being bothered by all the fears that would come with actually exposing myself to those dangers, but that section around 20:30 with planks laid onto barely supported timbers above a bottomless pit... I was really not feeling at ease, I'm glad you chose not to cross it.
The newspaper said Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company, that existed from 1906-1983 before becoming Pacific Bell Telephone Company. The Red Goose Showed were around from 1869 until 1911 it was bought out by International Shoes. But I guess the name stuck around until the 50's the best I can tell.
10:19 - was that illumination coming from a surface shaft? Or someone's flashlight? 29:44 - was something burned there? Glad to see you survived your brush with hypothermia!!
That illumination was from someone's flashlight. I agree that that section looks burnt, but it wasn't. It was some natural phenomenon. It's kind of funny that I was so cold in the mine because I've experienced Belarus and parts of Russia in the bitter depths of winter and it was a blazing hot day in July when this video was shot, but when your core temperature drops, it starts doing weird things to you...
@@AGDinCA Oh, yes, that was bitterly cold - in the single digits - but I didn't feel cold because I was moving around and active. I lived in Toronto for a winter and I remember one day it was -28 F, which even with being active, felt pretty cold. The coldest I ever felt was a winter in Belarus where I don't know what the temperature was, but any skin exposed to the cold would sting for a few seconds and then go numb. Thank you very much, by the way, for the generous Patreon contribution. You're one of my favorites and it is awesome to have you on there.
@@TVRExploring Aww... I just wish I had known sooner! I always look forward to your adventures, for many reasons. How is your lovely lady doing? I do hope all your loved ones have remained healthy during this pandemic. So far, to the best of my knowledge, my family have all avoided catching the virus and are now mostly vaccinated. I feel so fortunate! Oh, one last thing... I think I asked you something about this a long time ago but I wanted to ask again... I am an amateur microscopist, with a particular interest in microscopic animals. In many of your adventures, I see you pass by moss-covered surfaces, which are excellent habitats for micro animals. Some of those remote addits you visit probably harbor undiscovered species! If I sent you some self-addressed, stamped envelopes, would you kindly scrape some samples for me? It takes very little moss for a good sample. And I would only ask you to do it if you just happened to remember. I wouldn't want you to go out of the way; that would be pointless and unnecessary. And I would only ask when you are really quite remote as that would be the best opportunity to find micro animals that may not have been studied yet. Anyway, please think about it, but don't feel obligated. You don't owe me anything. I joined Patreon because I support your mission to document these important snapshots of human ingenuity and history before they disappear, and because you do it with integrity and reverence.
@@AGDinCA One of my big complaints with UA-cam is that the notifications for replies to my replies are completely random. So, sometimes I receive a notification when someone responds and sometimes I don't. It is entirely random. As such, I have been accused of rudeness for blowing someone off when, in reality, I had no idea that they had responded. That is the case with your response. I am glad that I was responding to another comment on this video because that allowed me to see your response (which I was not previously aware of). All of that is a long way of explaining that I wasn't blowing you off and, yes, I would be happy to snag some samples for you as long as you promise to tell me if you find something interesting. Send me a private message on Patreon and we can work out addresses and details... Oh, and my lovely lady is doing very well. Thank you. I don't know how she manages to juggle all of the projects that she is involved in, but somehow she does it.
Hard rock mines with their deep stopes and false floors are much more scary than the placer drift mines that follow tertiary river channel like are in my neck of the woods. To me anyway.
Yes, I've often argued that point, but I don't get many people that accept it. The placer drift mines can be really sketchy, but I've never worried about plunging through a false floor and smashing myself on rocks hundreds of feet below.
I finally have internet in Challenge after 6 months offline! Son of a Bitch! It's Hughsnet, so it's slow. real slow. My neighbor is from Dobbins. You might know him. Joe Shona. He's interested in exploring mines. He said he could never find Scales. So, I showed him your video of driving through Scales. He's impressed.
Sounds like you are in a similar internet position as me. Hopefully that changes when we get Elon Musks Starlink mid summer. Might want to look into it. HughsNet is expensive, really tight on data caps and just all around disappointing. When it’s al you have, you make do I guess. I feel for you.
@@JustAnotherPaddy I'm actually using my neighbors WiFi for $20 a month. I'm not giving Hugh's a $500 deposit, 2 year contract with a $400 penalty to get out. Stupid. Yeah, I'm hoping for Starlink. But, I'm not holding my breath. Until last week I had to drive 35 minutes just to make a phone call or receive text or email. At least I get email now. Tried Digital path. Nope. No line of sight to their repeater. Did you say mid summer? That would be nice. I hear $99?
After watching that sand pour down without prodding the bowed timbers look a little more intimidating the potential for collapse a little clearer to see and imagine.
Pacific telephone & telegraph company was 1906-1983, it became Pacific Bell, now gobbled up by AT&T! Red Cross Shoes was 1896- 1955 for the main, but kept operation under parent US shoes into the 90's, ad appears similar to 1920 magazine ad for Red Cross Shoes though but could be earlier (Just going on the Style of shoe shown it could be 1900-1921!). During the depression the cost of the Red Cross Shoes was dropped from $10 to $6 to make them more affordable. They were also nothing to do with the US or worldwide Red Cross organisation.
You need to go do some episodes in cerro gordo with brent. (Ghost town living)Surprised you have not gone already! Especially when he goes back down in the union. You could really teach him a few things.
@@sabbathgirl131 -- You're only partially correct . You ride up & down in a Man Cage , Ore Bucket , or Skip . The Hoist is the powered Drum with the Cable on it that moves the conveyance up & down the Shaft . --- < Doc , Miner for over 50 years > .
Amazingly large mine. Another source of sorrow? Journey to the center of the earth - the deeper you go where no one has gone before you continue to run into Pepsi cans. WTF?!? Like being on the first manned moon landing on the dark side of the moon. As you step off the ladder into uncharted territory you are accosted by a group of teenagers on dirt bikes riding around raising hell.
i hate to say this, but with every ladder and every level the chance of getting entombed in one of these....... multiply that by each mine entered and the odds of coming home is something like 250 to 1 of a rapid uncontrolled disassembly happening. now diving further into the equation of doom .....multiply the number of people with you and your Odd's (say 3 people joined you everytime) become 25 to 1 out of 365 days in a year that one or all becoming honorary member/members of milebelowclub !😱
@Al Knight -- NO , Blasting Holes ! Those are the holes the Miners put the Dynamite in to blast loose the rock . --- < Doc , Miner for over 50 years > .
@@TVRExploring i know, i saw the other video link from the guy who went down the shaft, before i commented. He understandably got turned around in there. I was hoping that he would have gotten deeper but that last section was too sketchy.
I appreciate what you do but could you show the graffiti more and artifacts just because it's history at its' finest ... at least do a second still shot so we can pause it and read it?
Those are some seriously sketchy stopes. ETA. I can't bring myself to watch any longer than the first 5 minutes. Intellectually I know that you must have survived the experience because he posted the video, however, watching you climb down this ladders with those sketchy things above you made me sick to my stomach. And I'm not a person who typically feels much in the way of fear for myself or for others. Please stay safe
Another mountain propped up with sticks. 4:39 in a fallen slab on stilts with stilts on it holding up the rest of the mountain, Ingenious. Good ol PACTEL.. some instances that flowing sand would mean RUN. You say that wood is being crucified under the weight, being crushed. There was a Man, still is, that was crucified and bared the weight of the sins of the world on His body. Next stop. The view of a hollowed out mountain. Then the decision to turn back because it’s a little too sketchy. Then you realize you’re walking on a false floor with tons of dirt on it who knows how high that can give at any second. The video ends with a guy going over an edge. Good stuff.
Uhhhhh....you okay there dude? Skip your meds today? Or got turned around and commented half of this on the wrong video maybe....I can’t figure out what you were trying to get across with all this, but I do hope you’re alright...
@@myrrhavm ahhhh, au contraire my friend! Quite the opposite, I fully understand _what_ you were driving at, what I found more ponderous was _why_... and furthermore, why here? It’s just so confusing when it comes without any form of context whatsoever and has little to no pertinence to the content of the video. You see, contrary to popular opinion, we heathens aren’t necessarily uneducated; I’ve certainly heard “the word,” I just consciously choose to think independently and decide my values based on logic, compassion, and moral compass rather than out of a book written for dubious reasons ≈2000 years ago by humans who couldn’t possibly imagine the horrors that would be created by organized religion in the coming millennium or two. I have no issue with spirituality at all, if it floats your boat, go for it. I just can’t help but think it’s a very personal thing, and random UA-cam videos having nothing to do with Jesus or god aren’t necessarily the best place for such discourse, especially when unprovoked. That’s all.
@@kadoj . Out of nine sentences with direct statements about the adventure into this mine. You concentrate on one which also has relation to the video in correlation to the comment he made about an ore chute. Your move.
No offense, but do you have control of advertisement on your videos? I really hate advertisement on the internet, we lived nearly 50 years of internet without ads. If you have control of the ads please have less. Watching your videos is so much better without the stupid ads. A fan, but ads are turning me off. Please listen.
Officially, we have control over the ads, but in reality we don't. Last year, UA-cam really ramped up the aggressive advertising and gave UA-cam creators a "choice" of accepting more ads or not. If we didn't accept them, our videos would get dropped by the algorithm and rendered almost impossible to locate. UA-cam is arguing that people pay for content in every other medium - either by listening to ads or paying subscription fees - and that videos on UA-cam shouldn't be any different. I've heard representatives say many times that people shouldn't complain about content they're getting for free. If it were up to me though, there would be fewer ads. No one likes a ton of ads.
@@TVRExploring so you boob is shoving ads down our throats. I call a congressional hearing on this. If you boob decides that more ads are better for us (or them), than they should be regulated like every other media that is out there. In the 1900's, laws were passed to keep media (radio, tv, newspapers, etc.) From showing less ads, it became the idea that the media would gain more viewers at the cost of competitors. You boob has changed all that. There is no regulation (yet) on internet ads, but I feel a change is coming. Sorry I am ranting, but I believe that the modern internet should now be considered a media and should be regulated like all the rest of the media.
You should get one of those laser measuring tapes so you can give accurate distance measurements of the stopes. Just an idea. I use the one I have at work all the time and it's awesome
That might just work. I need to read the documentation for the Bosch laser measuring device I have to see what the upper limit is on its range. They are small and light and the Bosch one is pretty tough.
Thank you for the awesome and crazy explore, this one was very appreciated from the comfort of the couch! You guys awesome, thanks again and stay safe!
Glad you enjoyed it
Just your descriptions that you diligently write is adventure in itself, and well worth the effort to read.
Which I look forward to doing so almost as much as the videos you put out.
Class act you are young man, and I'm honored to follow your adventures into the unknown darkness wherever you should choose to go.
Be well, and stay safe in your wanderings, and thanks again for the ride.
Thank you very much for the kind words... And for being one of the few people that actually reads the descriptions!
@@TVRExploring Are we so few? Reading the description is the first thing I do, for fear of forgetting to do it after watching the video and trawling the comments. Spoils the surprise a bit sometimes, but all that does is hype me to see it in the video.
@@_tyrannus Oh, yes, I'm afraid so. You'd be amazed at how often I am asked questions that are explained at length in the description section.
@@TVRExploring Well, I guess them folks only get half the back ground information, and thus miss out on the big picture, are as best as your research allows.
Which I'm sure is sometimes very limited, figuring them ole boys were closed mouthed about anything, and everything.
Considering, that the government types, just wanted a chunk of the profits.
Then everybody else in they're minds, were out top backdoor them one way, are another.
So either way, they were in someone's cross hairs, and I'm sure there were little profits for the majority of the miners as it was.
Thanks once more young man, for all your efforts to make these as insightful, and informative as they are for everyone that views your videos, now, and hopefully far into the future
@@timothymilam732 Thank you.
It’s always impressive what the old timers were capable of in the way of support in these areas. Years ago I was lucky enough to take a trip down in one of the Salt caverns under the south edge of Lake Erie here in Ohio. That was in the Mid 1970s. I believe that the area I was in was soon sealed up and used for Propane storage. I know the workings I was lucky enough to see were incredible. The size of the place was unbelievable areas so large your light barely lighted the ceiling above your head. Carving along the walls that miners made that I’m sure are now forever lost.
You do an excellent job of letting people see our past. 👍
🇺🇸🦅🌏⚓️🇺🇸
The salt mines I have visited have been incredible... I'm glad you got to see the one you described before it was lost forever.
ALL JOY. guy's YOUR DOING WHAT I CAN'T.
Never cease to be amazed by your exploits. Fabulous but scary lol. Stay safe guys. Good to know you do have limits.
Thank you.
Everything is so impressive - how flat and level the floors of the drifts are, the amount of effort and expertise put into the woodwork and ladders etc.
It's one thing to watch u guys enter a mine like this where there has been eons of time for dust to settle etc. With the good lighting that you have, these places are almost mystical.
But I can just imagine what it must have been like when it was working. The noise must have been something - and coming from all around you - and from up and below. And the dust. Man the stories these guys could tell.
2 seconds in and I about cracked the screen on my phone by smashing the LIKE button.
That is most appreciated!
Every time I see one of your new videos, I have a near panic attack thinking about being in those spaces. I must have died in a mine collapse in a previous life because I literally feel like I’m suffocating watching you go down some of these ladders. Say safe my brother
How do you NOT get lost with all the twists and turns you take ?
I guarantee you, I would get everyone lost !!!.
Thanks for the sharing with us.
Right off the bat, @0:39, 'that is just death waiting to happen'. Thanks for sharing this but do be careful!
Total cool footage and showing Swiss cheese sponge parts in that mine.
Big timber and great stopes we see a lot of those lately great explore again loved watching.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.
Dust was extra thick in this maze of a mine. Good pickings afterwards 😂 Another enjoyable movie!
Very, very dusty in there!!
Always makes me smile seeing a new upload from you! This mine was fantastic. A big thank you, all the way from Norway:)
Glad we can put a smile on your face... Thank you.
Once again a real interesting explore. Commentary, description and photography is first rate. Always awesome channel. I’ll watch this one again when I get something to indulge!
Keep em coming little brother
Thank you very much. I'll keep them coming as long as I can.
TVR first...not one but two unplugged ore chutes. Those stopes were epic. When your exploring partner got in the frame, the scale clicked with me. Again, thanks for taking us along Justin.
Thanks for coming along... I always appreciate your comments.
Nice to see Dan again. "most experienced roper"
When that sand came down I about crapped lol
I thought it was a snake at 1st!
They fricking hollowed out that mountain!
Thank you for another amazing video
They really did!
This mine is very extensiv and not easy to explore
Thank you for the Video
Take care
Best wishes to you
Yours Frank Galetzka
Thanks, Frank. No, this was definitely not an easy one to explore!
I was thinking to myself when you first showed the winze/ore pass that was the mine the Mine Explores went down a few months back! One hell of a large mine. see you on the next mine explore. 👍
I wish I had enough free time to watch your full videos, stunning content as usual.
Thank you.
The wear on the ladder rungs.
It looks like wherever you went that everything is coated in very fine powdery dust which seems unique compared to other mines.
Yes, this was a very, very dusty mine!
You my friend are a true
EARTH WORM 🪱 with big wavoes your videos are awesome 👌
Earthworm 🤣😂
Amazing! The amount of work it took to move the material. As you said "A huge Mine." You have explained it to me before, but I still cannot see how you don't get lost!
The miners took a staggering amount of material out of there!
Thanks guys for sharing
Thanks for watching!
'Nerdin out' on white rock haha. I said the same thing the last time I saw cocaine. Great vid as usual Justin.
@16:00 "It's a small step up, to tumble a long way down" ~Unknown Miner, ca 1925
Hi I’ve been watching your videos for quite some time now and Ive been meaning to ask you what TVR stands for. I couldn’t figure it out yet. Cheers and stay safe out there.
"None of us had seen that much effort put into plugging a shaft before. That would suggest this destruction was a project funded by the government as it seems unlikely that anyone else would waste money like that."
True.Nothing is quite so vindictive or thorough in laying waste as government hell bent to do things "for your own good".
How sadly accurate...
Wood and rocks - I wish I had that at home... ;)
Prior to descending ladders while taping, do u send someone down w/ropes attached to verify as well as can be that the ladders are safe to go down?
Hi Justin, that mine was just filled with pitfalls, dodgy ore chutes and even sketchier false floors but you guys handled it like Indiana Jones lol. The mine itself looks massive though, a real shame you couldn't reach the lower levels yourself. A fantastic video and explore, thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💖
Thank you, Sue. Yes, this mine definitely had a number of sporty sections in it and an overall "Indiana Jones" feel to it... And, yes, it was massive! This video was just one of eight levels and this wasn't even one of the larger levels!
@@TVRExploring It was a really cool explore and I'm guessing you prefer the harder one's in a way as it must be boring just walking through a straight shot featureless mine. xx
One Big and Dangerous Mine!
Yes, I don't know how much longer it will be there...
impressive timber framing including the square wooden air pipe and some very huge stoops.
Definitely!
I want more stone throwing into deep shafts.
Super nice video b t w.
Thank you. Yes, the rocks are a fair request. Hard to have too much of that...
My favorite part about Wednesdays is right here.
That's awesome. Thank you!
Miners worked like a well-oiled machine, amazing!
It would have been a very impressive operation to see.
Very amazing HUGE mine
Yes, it would have been impressive to see this operation in full swing...
That's bad man .....
Too cool
another hell of a mine, just looking at all the huge timbers and the lesser ones in a lot of mines I am amazed that there are any trees left in the states, but just seen your gear demo, and hey ho there's tres lol
The eastern slopes of the Sierras were absolutely raped for timbers for the underground mines in Nevada. A good amount of the forests ended up underground...
it amazes me how much the wood holds for all those years, i have seen steel scaffold poles bend under much less weight. i can only assume the fibressness and flexibilty could be the answer. whats your take on it you have the experience and closeness to say..
Some modern mines use steel girders in particularly bad sections, but wood is very strong as well and, as I understand it, gives more of a warning when a section of a mine is beginning to fail. Also, wood is cheaper, much easier to work with and doesn't rust!
Love all the ladders with the busted out rungs. How about climbing to the bottom level to film the half dozen skeletons lying at the base of each wrecked ladder. Yaaa Hooooooo! Just like Wile E Coyote.
To block off 300 ' of shaft would require a massive amount of material .Did they use a waste pile on the surface ?
Yes, they bulldozed in a ton of material - including waste rock - from the surface and rammed it down somehow...
You said " shifting all over the place", I would have done something that sounds similar, 😂
Haha!
Holy...shit. That room is..... I don’t even know. Incredibly huge doesn’t quite seem to accurately cover the bases...kinda reminiscent of the open stopes up near that spot I was telling you about, actually, but this is quite a bit bigger and less open to the outside. [edit; my gods man, you have balls of steel on those false floors... good choice on calling it when you did, but you uh... whew. God damn. Broke a sweat just watching that... that aside though, pretty damn impressive woodworkings In this one for sure. So amazing to see what the old timers toiled away at under everyone’s feet and all those tons of rock and dirt all those years ago... so very impressive.]
Yes, sometimes adjectives like "big" and "huge" just don't seem sufficient, you know? Haha, yes, that spot where I called it was a little too sporty even for me. Indeed, it is incredibly impressive what the miners built underground here. There is hardly a trace of this massive mine left on the surface...
Were those just wedged slabs you were passing in an effort to get to the bottom through that hole?! Super sketchy mine but really awesome, like Moria! Colours were awesome, too!
Thanks for the adventure, as always! :-)
Yes, those slabs had caved and then wedged in together over our heads as we were making our way down.
That looked crazy bad in there...... me too chicken!
When you just had the Go-Pro om heading down the stope, everything on every angle and ladders on their side made it very confusing to get a grasp of what was up or down. Then stones go hurtling down and I had it all wrong. And then you crazy people doing this underwater, omg. btw the off the cuff "Crucifying the wood", sentence was poetic and foretelling of your wise decision to not cross the next section.
Well, that GoPro gives a good sense of how it looks for us because we're ducking and twisting all around to get down those things most of the time... Ha, yes, that section where we opted to turn around was a little too sporty even for me!
@@TVRExploring indeed, great stuff but no need to die for it. Keep em coming.
Its unfortunate that only the first 3 levels are accessible. Mine Explorers said there were 8 or 10? Great stuff nonetheless and some of those passages looked super sketchy, I'm happy you called it at 20:50, looked like in a jump and run PC game.
Yes, there were 8 levels in this mine. The lowest levels may be flooded, but just imagine what must be down there!
Usually I manage to watch your videos without being bothered by all the fears that would come with actually exposing myself to those dangers, but that section around 20:30 with planks laid onto barely supported timbers above a bottomless pit... I was really not feeling at ease, I'm glad you chose not to cross it.
Yes, that was a little too sporty even for me!
Those old miners were good at what they did.
Yes, they certainly were.
Wow Boxie has lost some more weight...
What is the really weird background noise it sounds like the wind? Was this a gold mine? It sure looked like they removed a load of material
There is air flow in most mines and the microphone picks that up. I always talk about the kind of mine it was in the description below the video...
Looks like fun ha
It is...
The newspaper said Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company, that existed from 1906-1983 before becoming Pacific Bell Telephone Company. The Red Goose Showed were around from 1869 until 1911 it was bought out by International Shoes. But I guess the name stuck around until the 50's the best I can tell.
Thank you for doing the research on that.
MINER'S ARE BAD ASS'S !
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10:19 - was that illumination coming from a surface shaft? Or someone's flashlight?
29:44 - was something burned there?
Glad to see you survived your brush with hypothermia!!
That illumination was from someone's flashlight.
I agree that that section looks burnt, but it wasn't. It was some natural phenomenon.
It's kind of funny that I was so cold in the mine because I've experienced Belarus and parts of Russia in the bitter depths of winter and it was a blazing hot day in July when this video was shot, but when your core temperature drops, it starts doing weird things to you...
@@TVRExploring That's so true! Core temperature is critical! That Russian mine you were in was pretty cold, too, if I remember correctly.
@@AGDinCA Oh, yes, that was bitterly cold - in the single digits - but I didn't feel cold because I was moving around and active. I lived in Toronto for a winter and I remember one day it was -28 F, which even with being active, felt pretty cold. The coldest I ever felt was a winter in Belarus where I don't know what the temperature was, but any skin exposed to the cold would sting for a few seconds and then go numb.
Thank you very much, by the way, for the generous Patreon contribution. You're one of my favorites and it is awesome to have you on there.
@@TVRExploring Aww... I just wish I had known sooner! I always look forward to your adventures, for many reasons.
How is your lovely lady doing? I do hope all your loved ones have remained healthy during this pandemic. So far, to the best of my knowledge, my family have all avoided catching the virus and are now mostly vaccinated. I feel so fortunate!
Oh, one last thing... I think I asked you something about this a long time ago but I wanted to ask again... I am an amateur microscopist, with a particular interest in microscopic animals. In many of your adventures, I see you pass by moss-covered surfaces, which are excellent habitats for micro animals. Some of those remote addits you visit probably harbor undiscovered species! If I sent you some self-addressed, stamped envelopes, would you kindly scrape some samples for me? It takes very little moss for a good sample. And I would only ask you to do it if you just happened to remember. I wouldn't want you to go out of the way; that would be pointless and unnecessary. And I would only ask when you are really quite remote as that would be the best opportunity to find micro animals that may not have been studied yet. Anyway, please think about it, but don't feel obligated. You don't owe me anything. I joined Patreon because I support your mission to document these important snapshots of human ingenuity and history before they disappear, and because you do it with integrity and reverence.
@@AGDinCA One of my big complaints with UA-cam is that the notifications for replies to my replies are completely random. So, sometimes I receive a notification when someone responds and sometimes I don't. It is entirely random. As such, I have been accused of rudeness for blowing someone off when, in reality, I had no idea that they had responded.
That is the case with your response. I am glad that I was responding to another comment on this video because that allowed me to see your response (which I was not previously aware of).
All of that is a long way of explaining that I wasn't blowing you off and, yes, I would be happy to snag some samples for you as long as you promise to tell me if you find something interesting. Send me a private message on Patreon and we can work out addresses and details...
Oh, and my lovely lady is doing very well. Thank you. I don't know how she manages to juggle all of the projects that she is involved in, but somehow she does it.
that mine ready to cave in a major way
Yes, it had a few sporty sections.
The potential energy of shit above you: U = m * g * h. Where m = mass, g = gravitational acceleration, h = height. In other words, a shitload.
Well said...
Wow I thought you fell thru when you switched views
Fortunately, not yet...
Hard rock mines with their deep stopes and false floors are much more scary than the placer drift mines that follow tertiary river channel like are in my neck of the woods. To me anyway.
Yes, I've often argued that point, but I don't get many people that accept it. The placer drift mines can be really sketchy, but I've never worried about plunging through a false floor and smashing myself on rocks hundreds of feet below.
If that is Nevada I wonder if that is blast damage,
nice very nice
The fact that all that lumber and huge timbers had to be taken down there and constructed in dismal lighting
It's extraordinary to imagine...
A homemade dust storm without a respirator.
I finally have internet in Challenge after 6 months offline! Son of a Bitch! It's Hughsnet, so it's slow. real slow. My neighbor is from Dobbins. You might know him. Joe Shona. He's interested in exploring mines. He said he could never find Scales. So, I showed him your video of driving through Scales. He's impressed.
Sounds like you are in a similar internet position as me. Hopefully that changes when we get Elon Musks Starlink mid summer. Might want to look into it.
HughsNet is expensive, really tight on data caps and just all around disappointing. When it’s al you have, you make do I guess. I feel for you.
@@JustAnotherPaddy I'm actually using my neighbors WiFi for $20 a month. I'm not giving Hugh's a $500 deposit, 2 year contract with a $400 penalty to get out. Stupid. Yeah, I'm hoping for Starlink. But, I'm not holding my breath. Until last week I had to drive 35 minutes just to make a phone call or receive text or email. At least I get email now. Tried Digital path. Nope. No line of sight to their repeater. Did you say mid summer? That would be nice. I hear $99?
Glad to have you back, forty two! No, I don't know Joe. Oh, and, yeah, HughesNet sucks.
I wonder how many miners were in there working at onetime?
From what I've read about this mine, there may have been hundreds of people working here.
Makes me wonder with the intensity of this was any gold recovered and how much to warrent this much labor
This was primarily a copper mine and, yes, they got a lot out.
After watching that sand pour down without prodding the bowed timbers look a little more intimidating the potential for collapse a little clearer to see and imagine.
Yes, this one definitely had some sporty sections.
no ... no ... *NO* . !!!
Pacific telephone & telegraph company was 1906-1983, it became Pacific Bell, now gobbled up by AT&T!
Red Cross Shoes was 1896- 1955 for the main, but kept operation under parent US shoes into the 90's, ad appears similar to 1920 magazine ad for Red Cross Shoes though but could be earlier (Just going on the Style of shoe shown it could be 1900-1921!). During the depression the cost of the Red Cross Shoes was dropped from $10 to $6 to make them more affordable. They were also nothing to do with the US or worldwide Red Cross organisation.
Thanks for digging into the history there!
@@TVRExploring you're welcome Justin.
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👍👍Wow!
You need to go do some episodes in cerro gordo with brent. (Ghost town living)Surprised you have not gone already! Especially when he goes back down in the union. You could really teach him a few things.
Brent’s Union Mine is amazing because you can still ride down and up in the elevator (not called that), it’s very dry and well preserved!
@@mitchellbarnow1709 i think the word you are looking for is hoist.
@@sabbathgirl131 -- You're only partially correct . You ride up & down in a Man Cage , Ore Bucket , or Skip . The Hoist is the powered Drum with the Cable on it that moves the conveyance up & down the Shaft . --- < Doc , Miner for over 50 years > .
Amazingly large mine. Another source of sorrow? Journey to the center of the earth - the deeper you go
where no one has gone before you continue to run into Pepsi cans. WTF?!? Like being on the first manned
moon landing on the dark side of the moon. As you step off the ladder into uncharted territory you are
accosted by a group of teenagers on dirt bikes riding around raising hell.
i hate to say this, but with every ladder and every level the chance of getting entombed in one of these....... multiply that by each mine entered and the odds of coming home is something like 250 to 1 of a rapid uncontrolled disassembly happening. now diving further into the equation of doom .....multiply the number of people with you and your Odd's (say 3 people joined you everytime) become 25 to 1 out of 365 days in a year that one or all becoming honorary member/members of milebelowclub !😱
The white rock is marble.
@ 30:16 core sample holes?......
@Al Knight -- NO , Blasting Holes ! Those are the holes the Miners put the Dynamite in to blast loose the rock . --- < Doc , Miner for over 50 years > .
Thats serious mine, too bad the lowest levels are inaccessible
It wasn't for a lack of trying that we couldn't reach the lower levels!
@@TVRExploring i know, i saw the other video link from the guy who went down the shaft, before i commented. He understandably got turned around in there. I was hoping that he would have gotten deeper but that last section was too sketchy.
I appreciate what you do but could you show the graffiti more and artifacts just because it's history at its' finest ... at least do a second still shot so we can pause it and read it?
He usually does. Seems like he was pressed for time. May be because he was teaming with other explorers.
Rats, doesn't look like there will be a sequel to this one...
I'm afraid not. It isn't from a lack of trying though!
really bad case of chutes and ladders in this mine
There were quite a few of them, to be sure...
Shanggo?
Yep
guess all people who worked this mine is no more
Yes, sadly, they're all gone now. Every one of them...
Those are some seriously sketchy stopes.
ETA. I can't bring myself to watch any longer than the first 5 minutes. Intellectually I know that you must have survived the experience because he posted the video, however, watching you climb down this ladders with those sketchy things above you made me sick to my stomach. And I'm not a person who typically feels much in the way of fear for myself or for others. Please stay safe
Another mountain propped up with sticks. 4:39 in a fallen slab on stilts with stilts on it holding up the rest of the mountain, Ingenious. Good ol PACTEL.. some instances that flowing sand would mean RUN.
You say that wood is being crucified under the weight, being crushed. There was a Man, still is, that was crucified and bared the weight of the sins of the world on His body.
Next stop. The view of a hollowed out mountain. Then the decision to turn back because it’s a little too sketchy. Then you realize you’re walking on a false floor with tons of dirt on it who knows how high that can give at any second.
The video ends with a guy going over an edge. Good stuff.
Uhhhhh....you okay there dude? Skip your meds today? Or got turned around and commented half of this on the wrong video maybe....I can’t figure out what you were trying to get across with all this, but I do hope you’re alright...
@@kadoj You don’t get it. But Justin will.
@@myrrhavm ahhhh, au contraire my friend! Quite the opposite, I fully understand _what_ you were driving at, what I found more ponderous was _why_... and furthermore, why here? It’s just so confusing when it comes without any form of context whatsoever and has little to no pertinence to the content of the video. You see, contrary to popular opinion, we heathens aren’t necessarily uneducated; I’ve certainly heard “the word,” I just consciously choose to think independently and decide my values based on logic, compassion, and moral compass rather than out of a book written for dubious reasons ≈2000 years ago by humans who couldn’t possibly imagine the horrors that would be created by organized religion in the coming millennium or two. I have no issue with spirituality at all, if it floats your boat, go for it. I just can’t help but think it’s a very personal thing, and random UA-cam videos having nothing to do with Jesus or god aren’t necessarily the best place for such discourse, especially when unprovoked. That’s all.
@@kadoj . Out of nine sentences with direct statements about the adventure into this mine. You concentrate on one which also has relation to the video in correlation to the comment he made about an ore chute. Your move.
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No offense, but do you have control of advertisement on your videos? I really hate advertisement on the internet, we lived nearly 50 years of internet without ads. If you have control of the ads please have less. Watching your videos is so much better without the stupid ads. A fan, but ads are turning me off. Please listen.
Officially, we have control over the ads, but in reality we don't. Last year, UA-cam really ramped up the aggressive advertising and gave UA-cam creators a "choice" of accepting more ads or not. If we didn't accept them, our videos would get dropped by the algorithm and rendered almost impossible to locate. UA-cam is arguing that people pay for content in every other medium - either by listening to ads or paying subscription fees - and that videos on UA-cam shouldn't be any different. I've heard representatives say many times that people shouldn't complain about content they're getting for free. If it were up to me though, there would be fewer ads. No one likes a ton of ads.
@@TVRExploring so you boob is shoving ads down our throats. I call a congressional hearing on this. If you boob decides that more ads are better for us (or them), than they should be regulated like every other media that is out there. In the 1900's, laws were passed to keep media (radio, tv, newspapers, etc.) From showing less ads, it became the idea that the media would gain more viewers at the cost of competitors. You boob has changed all that. There is no regulation (yet) on internet ads, but I feel a change is coming. Sorry I am ranting, but I believe that the modern internet should now be considered a media and should be regulated like all the rest of the media.