The History of Sonic Adventure 2: A Retrospective
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- The History of Sonic Adventure 2: A Retrospective is a feature length game documentary which takes a look at The History of Sonic Adventure 2, investigating and taking a close look at the development, release and promotion of the game, including details surrounding the soundtrack an other key aspects of the games production.
Sonic Adventure 2, the sequel to the hit game Sonic Adventure, is seen by many as 'the best 3D Sonic Game'. But how did it become such a staple in gaming history? How was a team of developers able to relocate to the other side of the world and do the impossible, make a sequel which to many surpasses the original.
This video takes a very in-depth look at one of the best and last games to be released for the Sega Dreamcast.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
4:58 - Sponsor
6:50 - Story
14:01 - Development
33:47 - Gameplay
43:36 - Music
46:34 - Promotion & Merchandise
55:46 - Battle Edition
58:00 - Reception & Re-Release
1:02:01 -The Sequel
1:04:37 - Legacy - Ігри
I am prepared to die on the hill that the treasure hunting stages are amazing as they are. There is nothing like them on gaming since.
*Salutes*
I preferred the SA1 version.
@@BadnikMechanic I'll actually take it a step further, and say that the SA2 treasure hunting is better than SA1's.
The three radars going off at once is, more often than not, a noisy, confusing mess, that makes it hard to focus on what you're actually doing.
SA2's radar is not only more focused, but you can grab your targets out of order, if you just happen across them.
SA1's hints take way too long, and only point you in a direction (the same thing your radar is already doing) and, more often than not, just fly off-screen.
SA2's hints, on the other hand, actually reward you for learning the levels layout. Y'know, like a Sonic game.
And I will also die on that hill and say that the radar was likely changed to account for the Ranking system, since it would've been far too easy to get A ranks if it was like SA1's. I mean Knuckles and Rouge controlled so much better in SA2 that it never bothered me. Plus the stages in SA1 feel like an after thought with how easy they are, that I almost feel insulted.
I thought you were gonna talk about Shiro Maekawa, the writer of Sonic Adventure 2.
The guy would hit himself in the head before writing, make voices to figure out how Shadow would sound like, and taught himself to write scripts and storyboard just for this game.
Good video overall, but I was hoping to learn more about Maekawa.
Take a shot every time I say DX instead of Battle edition.
👁️👄👁️
@right_in_the_tockles Out of curiosity, I just opened my script for this video and Ctrl + F "Feels" to see how often I use that word.
4 times, 3 of which are used in a section where I'm clearly giving a 'personal reflection' about the gameplay.
Which comes over 30min into the video...
You tried.
Oh yeah you’ll be pleased to know they did release that orchestrated version of live and learn used in the 30th anniversary symphony on some streaming services
@right_in_the_tockles Says the guy who just openly admitted to complaining about a video he *re-reads your comment* "Just skipped around and didn't actually watch...
Keep earning those L's buddy.
@right_in_the_tockles You are going to so wish I would remove them when you see what I intend to do with them. :)
Many of my fond memories of SA2B (yes, I grew up with that version too and I love it) are in the Chao Garden. My brother and I would spend hours playing in it as it let our imagination flourish. For kids, that is necessary for their growth and in this day and age where we leave little room for that is next to impossible. We read a lot about raising Chao online back in the early 2000s; reading how to get Chaos Chao, the effects animals had, fan comics, ect. It was a time to be alive! It makes me happy that we're getting Chao plushes and figures that I can afford. Whether or not you like the Chao, you can't deny its impact on the fandom. Also, I love the Treasure Hunting stages here more than in the first game as it plays better. Sure, the inability to sense the others ahead of time is a downgrade, but the way it plays is so much better imo. Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, much like Super Mario Sunshine, holds many fond childhood memories.
20 minutes in and this is already the best video made on this game
sephirothsword57 did better, this was still great.
@Phone Phone I forgot about that lmao
A fun romp through the complicated history of one of the most popular Sonic games in the whole Canon. Thank you for this awesome documentary/deep dive. This makes me want to view the ones you made for Sonic Adventure.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The SA1 Retrospective is very much like this one. The Through the Looking Glass is more an analysis with a lot of jokes thrown in.
Hope you'll enjoy them! Working on the SA2 analysis now!
The sonic adventure 2 story is absolutely brilliant and fantastic good job badnik mechanic. 💙🦔💙
This was awesome! The wait for this was definitely worth it. I’m looking forward to seeing what everyone else thinks when this goes live.
But most of all, thanks for all your amazing videos over the years! And thanks for the shout out you did for everyone 😎👍
- Serrakor
This Friday!
I watch just about every Sonic Adventure 2 video I can find, and this one taught me new things.
Cool that you’re doing another retrospective, really liked the one for SA1
Wow!!! This video is one of the most entertaining and fascinating videos I’ve seen on UA-cam in a long while. The amount of analysis and in-depth research that went into the production of this video is incredibly inspiring and appreciated by me and any other viewers! Brilliant job! 😊
Finally got around watching this video, absolutely loved it. Sonic adventure 2 is a personal favorite sonic game and it's one that I remember renting a lot at my local video store. It's interesting to learn about the game and I can't wait for the analysis part on the game. Amazing videos as always!
Eggman’s line about his grandfather almost makes me tear up when I hear it. The music, his delivery of the line. It is such an emotional moment of reflection. The only thing that sours it is Tails’ happy-go-lucky response.
27:09
Actually this was an misconception. The branching path thing never was planned from what Izuka says.
Source: ua-cam.com/video/V9kKHKT8i1s/v-deo.html at 7:59
Sonic Adventure 2 is definitely the Best Sonic game Ever. The gameplay is so fun, the Story is so captivating, the Music and Level themes are just too good. I actually went to San Francisco last summer with my family. I saw the Real Mission Street and Radical Highway. It was truly amazing seeing the Sea surrounding it, the Clouds looming over the city, the Hills, it was even more beautiful than in the game. Well, if you ignore all the trash and Homeless people on the streets…
I’m born and raised in SF and back in the day the Sega HQ building was by the freeway near downtown. Hence the inspiration for the game
I really enjoy these videos alot and this is no exception. Well done Badnik Mechanic.
54:01 come on, the officer is named Topaz, which is the name of a gemstone. Isn't that perfect for Rogue, who is known for admiring gems?
looking forward to the analysis video :)
Playing Adventure 2 before the original, for me all the " adventure Radar" discussion was pratically non existent, i simply enjoyed playing in that manner also finding emerald pieces before the radar signals. In very ways it was an outdated version in relation to the original one and it's great they modded it with steam version, but i think all this discussion is too much underlined when many fans that played adventure 2 standalone or before the first one never noticed that as an issue
Subscribed! Love your content!
Welcome to the party!
Very amazing video. Sonic plush collector that's why to collect a Rouge plush.
hello :)
now... about the rouge plush tied up in your basement,
explain buster
Yeah I will stand halfway on that hill for the treasure hunting. They aren't perfect but even to this day after playing SA2 as a kid, I still like the stages. Even the whole "Mad Space is the worst because of the hints" complaint makes me wanna say "git gud" because as a kid I did that. I won't deny that they should have made the stages allow you to find any item no matter which one you were collecting. Also the treasure hunting stages had the best music out of the whole game. That is the hill I will die on. Every Knuckles and Rouge tracks are better than songs like City Escape.
48:34 To be fair, those demons do kinda look like the Black Arms
I really enjoyed this video watch it all the way the highlight of this video was the fact Sonic Adventure 2 had two versions the arcade & the slot machine that really caught me off guard because I been knowing & playing Sa2 for years it's so satisfying learning more detail of a game of a franchise making me love Sa2 even more looking forward of you're Sonic Adventure 2 over the looking Glass Video
Underrated and needs more views
I agree, follow up video coming in the next few weeks... no really!
love your vidios and i love sonic!
Love this
CANT WAIT
Neither can I!
Man i miss this game i love it so much
I WANT THAT GIANT ROUGE PLUSHIE, I DONT GIVE A DAMN!! 😍🦇💖
While I completely understand the frustration of many with the treasure hunting, I attempt to put myself in the shoes of 13 yr old me. The GC Battle port was my first experience with true 3D Sonic (didn't get to play SA1 and R doesn't technically count here) and while I initially thought Knuckles would've been similar to Sonic (like S3+K), I quickly learned to love the immersion of exploration. The radar system, while a bit frustrating sure, wasn't nearly as much of a headache for me as many have in retrospect. I love just vibing out while exploring the entire level. The music def helped with my experience, and I'm still very fond of it as a big fan of acid jazz and atmospheric hip hop. As I grew older and heard more of the criticism geared towards this segment (and game in general) it really soured my experience, but by influence, not necessarily experience. It became "expected" to hate on the game. Nowadays, I'm peeling away the noise of everything that's come after and trying to recall the first experience, and enjoying the game for what it was and still is. This game holds a special place in my heart and even with its flaws, it will always be one of my favorites in the franchise.
Are there any updates on the Sonic and Sally statue? Have they managed to save that statue yet?
I beat this game 100x in my life (I'm currently 25) and I still have fun playing it
lego sonic key chain
*tips hat* Thank you sir!
Omg I love the Romeo and Juliet intro
FINALLY!!!
LOL! I wondered if anyone would get it!
Yeah, it just seemed to fit for some reasons XD
@@BadnikMechanic yeah it definitely got me super excited 😄 great job on the video and extra shoutouts to the great narrator in the intro
This video deserves more attention👑👑
I agree!
pls upload@@BadnikMechanic
@ShadowNicoStar Working on it. Nearly done with the new vid. It's just a monster of a project.
ok are you gonna cover any of superstars@@BadnikMechanic
@ShadowNicoStar Possibly. I have the game but not played it outside of the EGX demo.
Next 2 video projects are already locked in outside of the one I'm finishing up.
One of them is non Sonic... because I'd buy that for a dollar!
It's almost a shame the street view detective work shenanigans didn't end with you ringing on Yuji Naka's door bell or something similarly crazy :^)
Any update on "through the looking glass" for SA2. Been so excited for it, hope it drops soon
Still working on it. But nearly done!
1:06:17 I have the same plush
in my room
I got it for my 16th Birthday and I did a video featuring it.
P.S very Awesome work I loved it.
a new vid any time soon many thanks
Working on it.
My videos take a long time to make due to their size and research.
It all comes full circle.
Personally for me I will always prefer SA1 over SA2 in both feel and level design. Despite some of the improvements SA2 has I find SA1 far more fun to go back and play. There are also some downsides like me preferring the SA1 spin dash and me not liking the way knuckles and rouge’s stages due to the change in the radar. Now other smaller things might be due to nostalgia or I find it better overall, I find SA2 to be the lesser game. Still both are great games in their own right.
Yes I do agree that Sonic 06 is Sonic Adventure 3. It uses the adventure formula along side multiple playable characters with the story changing, depending on which route you go. The main issue is that Sonic 06 is unfinished so I wonder what Sonic would of been like if the game had not segmented its team to work on Secret Rings and/or had the proper time it needed to get finished and had been delayed to fix its underlying controls and physics to be more like SA1 or SA2
Sonic 06 IS Sonic Adventure 3. People just don't want to hear it because it's bad
The only difference between Sonic's gameplay in 06 vs in SA1/SA2 is that 06 is bad and completely lacks momentum but outside of that, everything about it is very Adventure-like, while taking certain elements from Sonic Heroes and Shadow's story being sort of a mix between the Adventure games and the Shadow the Hedgehog game
Not sure if you've already adressed this, but was the sonic statues video taken down? I can't seem to find it anymore
Now I know this isn’t really the video to ask this question, but your Sonic Statue video appears to be either private or deleted, and I was wanting to ask for why this is the case. I recently heard about some copyright and insurance issue was going on, and led me to believe the video was taken down due to these reasons. So if you could possibly clarify this, that would be awesome.
Oh, and hopefully you have a great rest of the day for whenever you read this very comment.
27:51, that's Amy's SADX model. 😔
I was very tired...
Are you still here? :3
Yes. Very very nearly done with the next video. Probably March.
Im convinced you work as a speaker for presentations for companies 😅
I think is about to be a good video
Yeah I think it'll be a decent one too =p
And plus I love Sonic adventure 2
I don’t hate the one emerald radar. It is less convenient, but I still found the levels fun enough to not care. For most levels. Some levels still don’t work with it like Meteor Heard and Mad Space.
No, I didn’t hate security hall or whatever Rouge’s level is called. I actually liked it just fine and found it pretty fun, I got an A tank on my first try on that and another indoor level.
Now that I say that, that doesn’t mean I’m against the multiple emeralds being detected, especially when the levels are so large.
Why is the sonic statues vid private?
Sonic Adventure's stages are more open than SA2's. SA2's stages still have some secrets but they're more linear.
lmao This is my favorite Sonic game I'm serious
52:33 Yakuza 3 Fly Jumpscare
(Replying here) I was asking what's your top three games in each category (2D and hybrid/3D)? So Sonic CD and Adventure 1 can be one of the three for each, but two others as well.
I miss it 😭
Also curious has the discord link on this channel expired?
Oh I bet I copied the old one. This one should work...
discord.gg/SDRhWtnZBE
What happen to the statue video?
Treasure levels are easy, or a subtle challenge, so dramatic
"Well, that's the hill you're prepared to die on!"
Sega fixed the London statue
What's your current favorite (released) Sonic games? Top three 2D games, and (separately) top three either hybrid or 3D games. Mine:
Top three 2D
3&K
Mania
2
Top hybrid or 3D
Generations
Unleashed Project
Adventure 1 (I just slightly prefer it)
OK so.
Probably Sonic CD (But I admit it's not the best designed lol) and Sonic Adventure 1.
Where are you Badnik Mechanic?
Working on the next vid.
@@BadnikMechanic ok. See ya then
Honestly I played the SA2B first but I got me a Sega Dreamcast and not to long after costing me a little bit for the Dreamcast SA2 and I just stopped playing the Gamecube version because the Dreamcast SA2 was far more superior and it's my favorite Sonic game but I would recommend the Dreamcast version even if it cost a arm and a leg depending on the timing you find a good deal but I want the original multi dimensional soundtrack so bad
I think the reason for the radar change has to do wit the new rank system they employed
That is a possibility, potentially you could utterly cheese some of the stages.
But stages where you change the configuration of the layout, even if everything spawned right by you, (which I don't think it can since the spawn code has a proximity variable to it).
You'd still have to spend time navigating and changing the stage configuration, then change it back for the 3rd one.
@@BadnikMechanic I guess ye but I think ST either didn't realize or were ok wit that. Knuckles/Rouge R the ONLY ones who's rank is highly dependent on time rather than Rank like speed or mech. I think the timers R individual meanin that the game ranks each item u get individually & puts them together for a total. goin for ANY other when that timer isn't on breaks it entirely cus the other timers aren't on yet
I’ve heard many of the script issues have to do with the English translation and not the original Japanese version. Not sure if you brought it up as I’m only partially though the video
I'm mainly going to be talking about the script/story issues in the next video.
It's not so much "dialogue being a bit... ehhh..." it's more the structure of the story, and how parts are told to you rather than shown.
as an eraser collector, I need to come to terms with not getting the sonic adventure 2 ones. Im not about to shell out $90 for only two of them. OH! And speaking of unrealeased sonic adventure products, there was a big the cat eraser! and it was never released...
ITS BACK! THE SEGA WORLD STATUE IS BACK!!!
Hi, hello! :D
Hiya!
I’m still waiting for the next video
And that wait is NEARLY over!
Almost certainly going to be March!
@@BadnikMechanic yay!
@@BadnikMechanicw
@@BadnikMechanicso excited
@@BadnikMechanicit's may are you being repaired
What's the discord?
hello
Hi and hello
Rip channel
The hell are you talking about?
I'm still working on stuff... what you think you just snap your fingers and 2 hour long videos emerge from the computer?
@@BadnikMechanicokay dad I be waiting for you
This game is only good because eggman pisses on the moon
why not cover on rare sonic plushies @BadnikMechanic