Example of a Utah Temporary Orders Hearing in a Divorce Case

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  • @Saddestpianist324
    @Saddestpianist324 3 роки тому +18

    This is completely and utterly disappointing to watch. It’s disgusting how fathers always get screwed in court with nothing but terrible excuses.

    • @2ared952
      @2ared952 6 місяців тому +2

      Alcoholism and pornography addiction are sufficient reasons for a parent to be kept from having more time with his kids. Wtf is wrong with you

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Porn? Really? Alcohol? That's a horrible excuse? Wow! Funny how that didn't even get addressed by his attorney- why? Because it's true.

  • @kirbak7083
    @kirbak7083 3 роки тому +8

    Judge's should have to explain their rulings

  • @ty5642
    @ty5642 2 роки тому +7

    The 16 year old would clearly prefer to live with the Father, but he is now sentenced to reside with his Mother against his preference for the duration of the trial. This mockup clearly leaves aside the relevant child support issue that arises with the orders, and child support is probably the real reason that the Mother seeks primary custody.

    • @ericjohnson7950
      @ericjohnson7950 2 роки тому

      Thank you for watching, and thank you for your insightful comment.

  • @pamelapap
    @pamelapap 4 роки тому +8

    A temporary order been seen to lay the ground for a permanent order defeats the purpose of it being temporary. It’s not suppose to be that way.

    • @ericjohnson7950
      @ericjohnson7950 4 роки тому +1

      That is quite often true. Thanks for watching, thanks for commenting.

  • @thetruepatriot7733
    @thetruepatriot7733 4 роки тому +16

    outrageous! fathers always get screwed. I watched the same thing happen to my brother.

    • @susanrg
      @susanrg 3 роки тому +3

      I’ve been a family law attorney for 40 years, and I have gotten fathers custody of their children. many, many times. It all depends on individual circumstances and facts. The notion that fathers always get screwed is a myth. Regarding child support, we all owe our children a duty of support. Which gender one is is irrelevant.

    • @kristoskalemanis
      @kristoskalemanis Рік тому

      ​@@susanrg where do you practice?
      Im looking to interview atourneys in Utah for a divorce

    • @susanrg
      @susanrg Рік тому

      @@kristoskalemanis I’m in Richmond, Virginia. Good luck!

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      For sure- number one you need to represent a decent man/father. This guy only deserves minimal parent time. Which is a no brainer. ​

  • @sebas8225
    @sebas8225 4 роки тому +3

    "A temporary order is just a temporary order" Ofc you´d say that, if it was a permanent order, the Court couldnt keep filling it´s pockets with the father´s money, disgusting.

  • @staxxshop1770
    @staxxshop1770 2 місяці тому

    I wish court was like this now. It sounds like those children have an incredible attentive mother. This judge is asking great questions! Judges aren’t like this anymore. They don’t care about the children anymore…

  • @cadomosting
    @cadomosting 4 роки тому +7

    This is a joke, but it's defiantly more the rule than the exception in Utah. I know this is a mock hearing, but where's the fight, just let this happen without making any arguments in order to prepare for an appeal??? Pro-se would have gotten the same ruling, the father should get his attorney fees back to him. Any judge that rules like this is too ignorant in family matters to be sitting on the bench deciding what's best for the lives of other people.

    • @afs7014
      @afs7014 3 роки тому +1

      YEP!!!!!!!

  • @Cjephunneh
    @Cjephunneh 3 роки тому +3

    Discrimination

  • @yogeshpandya6438
    @yogeshpandya6438 5 років тому +4

    Post more and more proceeding s videos

  • @davisthobejanehen7267
    @davisthobejanehen7267 10 місяців тому +1

    This is what happens to men, it’s like we aren’t considered human. Just because during the course of a relationship, a men would tend to work late hours doesn’t necessarily mean he can’t rearrange that schedule if the need arises.
    I was in the same situation but the magistrate corrected my ex and said to her, when two people are together they help each other, if one parent works longer hours it’s still for the benefit of the entire family, but since you guys aren’t together anymore, he has shifted his schedule to accommodate the fact that he is going to have to play the role you did, and the same is true for you, you’ll have to provide for the children in areas where he was able to for yourself as well. And she burst out crying!

    • @UtahFamilyLawTV
      @UtahFamilyLawTV  10 місяців тому

      Thank you for watching and for commenting. You hit the nail on the head with this: "[W]hen two people are together they help each other, if one parent works longer hours it’s still for the benefit of the entire family, but since you guys aren’t together anymore, he has shifted his schedule to accommodate the fact that he is going to have to play the role you did, and the same is true for you, you’ll have to provide for the children in areas where he was able to for yourself as well."

  • @kdogcurry
    @kdogcurry 7 років тому +15

    the father got screwed

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      As he should.... porn and a DUI? POS of a dad.

  • @ocdraridrogonel
    @ocdraridrogonel Рік тому +2

    This is disgusting... how is it that so many mothers never want children to be with their fathers?

    • @luvmydeck
      @luvmydeck 7 місяців тому

      Money.

    • @happycleanhouse
      @happycleanhouse 6 місяців тому

      Bitter

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Quite the opposite was said. Did no one listen to what was actually said? Unbelievable.

  • @wysefavor
    @wysefavor 4 роки тому +6

    That attorney just crushed the dad!!!!
    Drinking problem and Porn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Arrested for DUI!!!!!!!!!!
    That Dad is DONE!!!

    • @afs7014
      @afs7014 3 роки тому

      As usual the Dads attorney wasn't on fire. Dropped the ball having had several opportunities to have had some objections on record or rebutted things he left open. Leaving the Dad not near enough to try justifying an appeal. And not one mentioning of or even any mention of the Dads possible Constitutionally protected Rights to equal parenting time. Same ole same ole. First mistake Dad did it was leaving it in the hands of an oral argument. I never won oral arguments but always won evidentiary hearings except for one when the judge blatantly ignored clear and convincing evidence. Just because father can't afford an appeal and get a trial court decision overturned doesn't mean the trial court did the right thing. So yea there's that.

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      ​@@afs7014atty didn't have much to work with. Dad is not a shining example of a father. Porn and alcohol? She needed to dump his ass long ago. 😅

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      As he should be! Loser!

  • @danbruno5945
    @danbruno5945 Рік тому

    Just a querey do Temp orders normally become permanent
    My ex wife got sectioned for mental health and social services took kids away and 1 of them if mine got a Interim order in September 2023 for 8 weeks
    November i got another interior order for him to live with me for 8 weeks ,Mother still unwell and can only have supervised contact
    Next hearing in January 2024

    • @JaredLee-e3s
      @JaredLee-e3s 10 місяців тому

      Hold on do even tho your kids mother is screwed up in the head they only gave you custody for 8 weeks? Seriously??? System is fkkked all the way up

  • @quintondavis3492
    @quintondavis3492 4 місяці тому

    My ex wife wants a temporary order and we don’t have any kids she won’t sign the papers and I asked for a uncontested divorce.

  • @graylobo133
    @graylobo133 5 місяців тому

    Its despicable that this attorneys and their deplorable clients get to lie about these issues....just deplorable.

  • @traciross8029
    @traciross8029 8 років тому +2

    Is this how the temporary hearing is SUPPOSED to go?

    • @mgw4205
      @mgw4205 7 років тому +3

      yes, but mine was alot shorter. her lawyer caused me of abuse and said he had 6 witnesses to testify against me. which isn't true. after not seeing my kids for over a year I agreed to temp custody. I walked in they took my financial information wam bam out the door paying child support and seeing my kids the next weekend....its corrupt and needs to be abolished.....the courts prey upon female nature and take advantage.....I hope you women are happy for the society you are creating for your children. where have all the good men gone...ill tell you they're not be raised by single mothers!

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Well yes and no! Dad only deserved minimum parenting time. In fact with dad's serious charges of a dui he could been only awarded supervised visits. I think he made out like a bandit. I would have argued for only supervised visits IF the DUI was more recent than the 5 mos. If mom allowed visits while knowing he had a DUI she knowingly approved of his visits part time anyway.

  • @ChanChan-jk8pc
    @ChanChan-jk8pc 2 роки тому +2

    Dad got destroyed his attorney sucked. Still should have gotten 50/50 bad judge

  • @chetan3125
    @chetan3125 2 роки тому +1

    Gist of family court:
    dads should never get custody because lawyers can make millions
    “in the best interest of children” is actually “in the best interest of lawyers”

    • @ericjohnson7950
      @ericjohnson7950 2 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and commenting. I'm no fan of the way much of the family court proceedings are handled, but you're oversimplifying. There are plenty of greedy lawyers, but they are only part of the problems.

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Lawyers do not make millions on family court. 😂

  • @henrypeterson7411
    @henrypeterson7411 Рік тому +1

    So if being available for the children matters, lower child support, so the dad doesn’t have to work and can instead be available for the child

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      That is actually utah law. It will happen automatically per code.

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Yup! That's utah law.

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Child support is not paid to mom when dad has the kids in the Summer and extended stays per utah code..Everyone knows that. It's not about the money . Dad pays less to mom when he has them.

  • @TavisWack-ip8fl
    @TavisWack-ip8fl 5 років тому +7

    They agreed to 50/50 when they got there? What a looser judge!

    • @sebas8225
      @sebas8225 4 роки тому

      Dont go to court.

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      " joint legal custody is what they already agreed to" that is not the same as joint 50/50 physical custody which is why they appeared. I re watched it and no where did anyone say " 50/50" - that was why there was this hearing- but dad lost, naturally. As he should have. Hopefully dad can get his shyt together and adventually get 50/50 . But number one these kids need to be safe and comfortable. 16 yr old should have spoken or written a statement of his wishes.

  • @mgw4205
    @mgw4205 7 років тому +12

    the judge is lying through his teeth

  • @l.270
    @l.270 6 місяців тому

    I love the comment " he gets home faster than the wife because he works from home "

  • @rootingforyou6399
    @rootingforyou6399 4 роки тому

    Too bad you can’t hear each person at the mics. It appears to be on a toggle switch. When the camera is on the Judge you can hear him. When the camera was on the attorneys, you could hear them. This is crazy.

  • @lkpeay
    @lkpeay 10 місяців тому

    How is HAVING A JOB a negative mark against a parent?

    • @UtahFamilyLawTV
      @UtahFamilyLawTV  10 місяців тому

      Amen.

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      No it is not a negative.
      Mom worked too. Both worked. What's the ussue?

  • @LibertarianUSA1982
    @LibertarianUSA1982 6 років тому +10

    Fathers even get screwed in fake divorces. Can't win even in fake divorces

    • @ericjohnson7950
      @ericjohnson7950 6 років тому +2

      Thanks for watching. Unlike other videos that give you a misleading idea of what happens in court, we staged this example such that we did not know what the "judge" in this video would decide. We both argued the case as if it were a real case, so that it would come across realistically.

    • @LibertarianUSA1982
      @LibertarianUSA1982 6 років тому +2

      Make a fantasy video for all divorced fathers out there. One in which the fathers win. We all know it can't happen in real life. So make one for the dads. Give us something to watch.

  • @johntrussell7808
    @johntrussell7808 4 місяці тому

    Though I get so frustrated seeing courts side constantly with moms. But holy smokes, he literally buried himself. The drinking, pornography, work schedule, i mean come on. Plus his body language when things are said negatively about him aren't good at all.

  • @emeryvakala8078
    @emeryvakala8078 6 місяців тому

    Fire that judge

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Promote that judge!

  • @shjadesmith9330
    @shjadesmith9330 4 роки тому +4

    Father's rights... time and time again... Are dismissed and not appreciated. In a separation like this I do not understand how even in a temporary case that both parents aren't given equal time.

    • @UtahFamilyLawTV
      @UtahFamilyLawTV  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and for your comments.

    • @pamelapap
      @pamelapap 4 роки тому +1

      Not true. The father allowed this schedule for 5 months why would the judge change it? There are no witnesses no evidence of the mother being unfit or evidence that he was a caregiver or involved. The judge is going along with what they did in the first place for 5 months. During the temporary they both parents can prove who either is unfit or more involved.

    • @shjadesmith9330
      @shjadesmith9330 4 роки тому +2

      @@pamelapap a parent doesn't need to be deemed unfit to share 50/50 and have equal time with their children. In my eyes father's rights are dismissed frequently so my statement is not an untrue statement.

    • @pamelapap
      @pamelapap 4 роки тому

      Shjade Smith your eyes and reality are two very different things.
      In this case 50/50 was not possible because the parents apparently agreed to her having primary for 5 months why would the judge change that? The father’s lawyer gave no evidence as to give the judge an impression that should be changed. Not only did this schedule exist for 5 months but children are now accustom to it.
      Both parents need to be deemed fit to share 50/50.

    • @shjadesmith9330
      @shjadesmith9330 4 роки тому +1

      @@pamelapap I don't see where the father was deemed unfit. If the location and school doesn't change 50/50 is not an issue. Kids get abandoned for 6 plus months and that parent can still get 50/50. Those are the new laws being pushed throughout. You should look them up to be honest instead of using the word unfit constantly in an improper manner. Not sure why you are so upset about my view regardless. It is mine based off my experience and you will not change that.

  • @luvmydeck
    @luvmydeck 7 місяців тому

    The reason we are here is because his work comes first. ..... Where do you think the money comes from mom/courts. Sexism.

  • @knightd12
    @knightd12 7 років тому +1

    What is this, a TV SHOW?

    • @UtahFamilyLawTV
      @UtahFamilyLawTV  4 роки тому +1

      It's an example of a hearing, but not a real hearing.

  • @yogeshpandya6438
    @yogeshpandya6438 5 років тому

    Where is Utah...the province country

  • @jasminrodriguez2779
    @jasminrodriguez2779 Рік тому

    16 years old should be with he wants; he is old enough to be with either one. The two others with mom.

  • @henrypeterson7411
    @henrypeterson7411 Рік тому

    Time for father to start making stuff up then

  • @Dr_Dude
    @Dr_Dude 5 років тому +1

    Gynocentric family (destruction) court.

  • @TheJmich2001
    @TheJmich2001 5 місяців тому

    He looks just like McNulty from "The Wire"

  • @selmamartin8737
    @selmamartin8737 Рік тому

    At the very least, the 16 year old should be with his father.

    • @danbruno5945
      @danbruno5945 Рік тому

      Surely at that age the 16 year old should just be given the freedom with a house key for both homes .He shouldn't be included in the order really

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      If and only if kid is safe with dad with no exposure to alcohol or porn. ​

  • @mgw4205
    @mgw4205 7 років тому

    my kids have missed more school since we been divorced

  • @Cjephunneh
    @Cjephunneh 3 роки тому

    His honorable is enforcing the title 4 agenda..

  • @markf2720
    @markf2720 6 років тому +3

    Does he have a driver's license?
    Can he drive the kids to school?
    Does he have a car?
    Was DUI once ..or more?
    What is his insurance like?
    DUI is pretty irresponsible. ....for other kids in the neighbourhood...as well...let alone for his kids. Plus the pornography??...we are talking about a person who is not entirely 'fit'.

    • @afs7014
      @afs7014 3 роки тому +1

      No evidence was presented to prove their allegation of pornography! Did his attorney object to those accusations? If not then that is unacceptable. So much for innocent until proven guilty or his attorney objecting on the basis it was hearsay. But whatever.

  • @blindluck3643
    @blindluck3643 6 років тому +1

    Whatvright does the mother have to dictate the relationship between the father he's offspring? NONE!

    • @matthewmclaughlin7302
      @matthewmclaughlin7302 5 років тому

      That scenario is EXACTLY why I just filed for Temp Orders

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Ummm.
      .She has every right if the children aren't safe with an alcoholic

  • @larrycourtney3647
    @larrycourtney3647 4 роки тому +4

    The judge looks like a nerd 😂

    • @UtahFamilyLawTV
      @UtahFamilyLawTV  4 роки тому +1

      The judge in this example of a temporary orders hearing is actually a criminal law defense attorney who is very skilled at what he does. You'd be lucky to have him on your side, but I don't think he'd take offense to being called a nerd, just so you know.

  • @dr.vjoseph6053
    @dr.vjoseph6053 3 роки тому +4

    Judge did correct. This judge don’t want the mother to be all alone by herself and the her boys will give her some type of protection. She brought these children into this world not the father the “man”. The time has come for women to stop being treated like man’s possession. Good judgment........

    • @acemany1126
      @acemany1126 3 роки тому +3

      Wrong!! The children did not come into this world by themselves. The parents created the child. The woman may carry them but father's are being treated as they done exist!! This is bullshit!! 50/50 is fair!!

    • @zifangkb2061
      @zifangkb2061 Рік тому

      🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

    • @kristoskalemanis
      @kristoskalemanis Рік тому

      you sound so sexist.

  • @aprillittle5359
    @aprillittle5359 2 роки тому

    DAMN!!!!

  • @MIurbex
    @MIurbex 6 місяців тому

    this acting is worse than porn

    • @ericjohnson7950
      @ericjohnson7950 6 місяців тому

      You haven't been to court in a family law case, have you?

    • @MIurbex
      @MIurbex 6 місяців тому

      @@ericjohnson7950 I'm not saying the script isn't accurate, I'm saying the ACTING OF THE ROLES WAS TERRIBLE. and I would know as I am a highly respected movie critic, good day sir

    • @ericjohnson7950
      @ericjohnson7950 6 місяців тому

      That's how real hearings take place. If you wanted more drama, you'll need to go to the movies.

    • @MIurbex
      @MIurbex 6 місяців тому

      @@ericjohnson7950 hey, dumbass, this is a movie, you realize these are actors as it's literally an "EXAMPLE" of a hearing as in, scripted, not real, fake?

  • @KevinGonzalez33470
    @KevinGonzalez33470 3 роки тому +2

    The 16 year old if he is smart will file for legal emancipation and go his own way. MEN MUST NEVER GET MARRIED!!

  • @Microdosingyourvalidation
    @Microdosingyourvalidation 6 років тому +6

    He was arrested for a DUI and you guys in the comments think it’s unfair he didn’t get sole custody!???

    • @shuffleshuffleshuffle
      @shuffleshuffleshuffle 5 років тому +4

      He was asking 50/50

    • @fjschneider
      @fjschneider 2 роки тому

      I'm sure that woman has never done anything irresponsible or dishonest in her life.

    • @_KizzMia
      @_KizzMia Рік тому +2

      I was thinking the same thing. It’s better safe than sorry on a temporary basis, then in a full hearing he can be ordered to not drive with kids or take a class or something and then given his 50%.

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Yeah his attorney just glossed right over it probably because it was true a I'm sure he'd notvwant to touch porn with a 10 footvpole so he didn't even mention it sure it's true!

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Yup nothing non law abiding.

  • @Cjephunneh
    @Cjephunneh 3 роки тому +2

    Discrimination

    • @l.270
      @l.270 6 місяців тому

      Um no