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  • @matthewsands1572
    @matthewsands1572 4 роки тому +62

    Drug use without consequences doesn't exist. There just doesn't need to be legal consequences because it's your right (or should be) to decide what you put in your own body.

  • @SeaDrive300
    @SeaDrive300 3 роки тому +36

    For Ron Paul, speaking the truth is not an act of courage; it's as natural as breathing. If more of us were like Dr. Paul, the world would be a much better place.

    • @tnndll4294
      @tnndll4294 6 місяців тому +1

      Anyone who thinks Putin and Bin Laden are right is as woke as the Marxists. even though Mr. Paul is a capitalist.

  • @johnneedham5468
    @johnneedham5468 4 роки тому +75

    If more people in the United States understood Libertarian ideals, we could mend so many bridges that have been destroyed over the years.

    • @Iwasthewalrus
      @Iwasthewalrus 4 роки тому +1

      I've often stated most Americans are libertarians if they took the time to understand libertianism...

    • @Bjjboxing
      @Bjjboxing 4 роки тому +3

      @@Iwasthewalrus Libertarian is a leftist term. Americans just stole the meaning of the term. To mean less government involvement while being in a capitalist system

    • @me700gnomes
      @me700gnomes 4 роки тому +4

      @@Bjjboxing and thus the circumstances that lead to an inevitable corporate oligarchy. American libertarianism is a marketing campaign to make people think their individual liberties intersect with market liberties when the exact opposite is far more often true

    • @impervita8384
      @impervita8384 2 роки тому

      @@Iwasthewalrus they’re liberals and so are right wing libertarians almost all right wing libertarian influence comes from liberals democrats and conservatives also preserve the same values at least economically

    • @XanarchistBlogspot
      @XanarchistBlogspot 2 роки тому

      Yeah I feel free to wreck "bridges" to groomers, thanks.

  • @BjornMoren
    @BjornMoren 4 роки тому +128

    Very strange to describe libertarianism as "a bit from column A and a bit from column B". That misses the whole foundation, which is limited government and more personal responsibility.

    • @lemickeysantos565
      @lemickeysantos565 4 роки тому +6

      The libertarian party is full of pathological narcissistic money greedy anarchists

    • @lemickeysantos565
      @lemickeysantos565 4 роки тому +1

      Z K educate yourself about your own party instead of just being biased

    • @TomAZ1984
      @TomAZ1984 4 роки тому +2

      I noticed that too. Sounded very Gary Johnson-ish. Maybe he was trying to be ironic?

    • @willp2190
      @willp2190 4 роки тому +12

      Limited government and more personal responsibility IS a little from each column

    • @bryanromero1
      @bryanromero1 4 роки тому +2

      @@lemickeysantos565 awww

  • @robcobb2693
    @robcobb2693 3 роки тому +16

    I was one of those 16 year old kids who got hit for weed that got labeled and shunned in my community early now I hate the people who done this to me. Single gram of weed

    • @thomdrolet2624
      @thomdrolet2624 3 роки тому +1

      Is that what drove you to become a juggalo?

    • @robcobb2693
      @robcobb2693 3 роки тому +1

      @@thomdrolet2624 yes put me on a dark soda filled past

  • @etorawa9367
    @etorawa9367 4 роки тому +69

    Libertarianism can be summed up into a few words: "The rights of an individual is first and foremost paramount, as long as they're not harming and/or infringing on another person's freedom/space..."

    • @AlexiusRedwood
      @AlexiusRedwood 4 роки тому +10

      Libertarianism can been summed up with 2 words
      Private property

    • @coman349
      @coman349 4 роки тому +8

      2 words: individual ownership.

    • @Caseyw462
      @Caseyw462 4 роки тому +5

      Non Aggression Principle

    • @me700gnomes
      @me700gnomes 4 роки тому +4

      “...also except when a corporation does it.”

    • @coman349
      @coman349 3 роки тому +4

      @@michaels7159 Libertarianism doesn't ensure, or push, or force anything, except for that one thing - individual ownership. It does so to maximize individual freedoms in all areas, economic/financial and personal/social. Capitalism just naturally comes out of that. Libertarian ideology doesn't believe government should decide who gets rich and stays rich, individual people should, the power is with the people not the government.

  • @JohnSmith-ti3oy
    @JohnSmith-ti3oy 4 роки тому +24

    Lets start with a competent, rational and truthful media outlet that has libertarian ideals.

    • @coman349
      @coman349 4 роки тому +2

      Reason. Cato Institute.

    • @FrecklePecker
      @FrecklePecker 3 роки тому +3

      John Stossel is fantastic but he's only one man.

    • @robinsss
      @robinsss 2 роки тому

      @@FrecklePecker one of the biggest mistakes many groups make is to focus too much on the media
      the media is powerful but you ca achieve success without any help from the media
      the most important thing is to go to the 4 branches of government , get
      in the trenches and start fighting with a logical strategy

    • @coman349
      @coman349 2 роки тому +1

      @Efren Rios Good argument.

  • @goodmoringful
    @goodmoringful 4 роки тому +43

    Libertarian has good ideals but the party doesn’t pick any good candidate. If the candidate wasn’t Jo Jorgensen then I’ll think about it.

    • @lemickeysantos565
      @lemickeysantos565 4 роки тому +4

      The libertarian parties ideas are what prevents them from getting new support from everyday voters 😹😹

    • @borkguy
      @borkguy 4 роки тому +11

      Brian LeFevre the problem for most people is her endorsement of “anti-racism” and BLM

    • @thomdrolet2624
      @thomdrolet2624 3 роки тому +2

      @@michaels7159 it's a problem because most libertarians know what those things are. And they are not what they claim to be, I don't think Jo knew that which is disqualifying, doubley so if she does know what they mean.

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha 3 роки тому +1

      Jo Jorgensen was an improvement on Gary Johnson. The only thing she _really_ messed up was supporting Black Lives Matter. I actually loved her platform when she first announced.

    • @RyanShannon85
      @RyanShannon85 2 роки тому +1

      valuetainment podcast had Jorgensen on there and man she was a complete dud, sounded drunk to be honest. Libertarian party definitely needs a better candidate

  • @steviewang4102
    @steviewang4102 4 роки тому +54

    Libertarianism could work if the general populace met a certain degree of competence and responsibility; two areas Americans absolutely don't meet.

    • @jeremyharshman143
      @jeremyharshman143 4 роки тому +21

      but our current system does not make up for the lack of competence... in fact, it puts the incompetent in power over those who are competent

    • @fren2030
      @fren2030 3 роки тому +4

      In any system there will be incompetent people who need direction from talented leaders. Libertarianism in no way assumes everyone is competent and autonomous.

    • @bigz5262
      @bigz5262 3 роки тому +5

      It worked pretty well in 1776. Being coddled by governments creates incompetence

    • @cv4809
      @cv4809 2 роки тому +1

      @@bigz5262 because back then there was no universal suffrage

    • @FPSmoto
      @FPSmoto 2 роки тому +2

      Gradually remove the safety nets and watch people adapt.

  • @matthicks6473
    @matthicks6473 4 роки тому +13

    When I came to an age to understand politics ron paul caught my ear. I'm happy that was fringe thinking at the time and was turned to more logical thinking in terms of politics. Not how the landscape is now.

    • @DJDisloyal1
      @DJDisloyal1 4 роки тому +2

      I discovered him in 7th grade & i feel it really helped me become more of a centered individual. I grew up in Chicago so i was surrounded by Liberals & had very few Conservative people in my life. But the ones i did made an impact & really helped me see both sides & think for myself rather than going with the sheep.

  • @dadsteader
    @dadsteader 3 роки тому +13

    Mitlon friedman? Thomas Sowell? how are they not well known speakers or intellectuals

    • @atrejunl
      @atrejunl 3 роки тому +1

      are they members of the Libertarian party?

  • @timothyblazer1749
    @timothyblazer1749 2 роки тому +3

    It's simple. Do No Harm.
    100% of the philosophy follows from just that one principle.

  • @JDsgreatz28
    @JDsgreatz28 4 роки тому +54

    I wouldn't be surprised if MOST people are libertarians.

    • @robert48044
      @robert48044 4 роки тому +3

      I find myself as one. I'm a conservative minded person who votes liberal when it comes to social issues most of the time. I believe in less government. Also even though it didn't make the Constitution I believe in the "pursuit of happiness" as long as it doesn't negatively effect another.

    • @JDsgreatz28
      @JDsgreatz28 4 роки тому +1

      @@karljonson3287 idk, they aren't many major Libertarian organizations doing polls, and a lot of people don't really know that much about it. It's definitely worth hearing out, and it could free the coutry from this 2 party joke of a system. Imagine not having to vote for the candidate you hate less... Must be nice.

    • @AntonAdelson
      @AntonAdelson 4 роки тому

      I wouldn't say most are libertarian but I'd say most people are not against libertarianism. Like me. I'm a communist economically but I'd vote for libertarians before I'd vote for democrats.

    • @Bjjboxing
      @Bjjboxing 4 роки тому +1

      @@AntonAdelson How are you communist economically?

    • @Bjjboxing
      @Bjjboxing 4 роки тому +1

      @@robert48044 Libertarian ideas just don't make much sense. Also Americans have rebranded the term libertarian. It was originally a leftist idea.

  • @spfccsmft
    @spfccsmft 4 роки тому +11

    Look, the Libertarian Party is an idea!

  • @northpole5554
    @northpole5554 3 роки тому +10

    I hope Michael Malice will get into the politics one day. I'm reading his The New Right. Good book.

    • @carsonwentz8301
      @carsonwentz8301 2 роки тому

      Hopefully not. The last thing we need is more people believing in authority and politics

    • @cv4809
      @cv4809 2 роки тому

      Isn't Michael an anarchist?

    • @microsoftpain
      @microsoftpain 2 роки тому +1

      @@cv4809 yes. he said he'd do it just to troll the media. having him as WH press sec would ensure this.

    • @JohnDoe-pt7ru
      @JohnDoe-pt7ru Рік тому

      @@microsoftpain Trump should pick him for Press Sec for sure

  • @anhleroy
    @anhleroy 4 роки тому +4

    I wish when he mentioned the Cato he would have mentioned that Cato was in direct opposition to Julius Caesar and that defined a lot of his actions and you can see the difference between libertarians and Republicans in that divide between Caesar and Cato

    • @anhleroy
      @anhleroy 3 роки тому +1

      @Jace Rivera thanks for the reply I will definitely look into what you say and maybe change my opinion. I've always viewed Cato in opposition to Julius Caesar's tendency for dictatorship.

    • @xspartan346x
      @xspartan346x 2 роки тому

      @Jace Rivera republics are socialist

  • @tarossi400
    @tarossi400 4 роки тому +2

    The thumbnail looks like pictures of Ron Paul at different stages of his life.

  • @44dawgman
    @44dawgman 2 роки тому +1

    OK .... that's NOT what happened on Friends but I get his point.

  • @BronzeBullBalls
    @BronzeBullBalls 2 роки тому +5

    I find it ironic that an anarchist can 'mock' Libertarianism... lol anarchism is way more of a pipe dream.

  • @empemitheos
    @empemitheos 4 роки тому +19

    A vote donated to the Libertarian party may have a higher payoff long term than any other choice

    • @mtdewramen
      @mtdewramen 4 роки тому +1

      For the voting record, vote whomever gets that goal temporarily, and the Libertarians are a huge win if you actually care about the long term health of your nation in terms of endless wars, and being self sufficient, and of course the Adam Smith version of capitalism. When it comes anything besides social issues, they fail hardcore in terms of economics. Trusting the free market is why the USA is about to be split into 25 parts once things get worse with climate change.

    • @TremendousSax
      @TremendousSax 4 роки тому

      Yeah if you support dictatorship by billionaires

    • @empemitheos
      @empemitheos 4 роки тому +3

      @@mtdewramen do you even understand the philosophy? We don't have free markets anymore, we have federal reserve funded feudalism and crony capitalism, real competition would clean up a lot

    • @empemitheos
      @empemitheos 4 роки тому +1

      @@ssssssstssssssss so far it's been explaining what has been going on best, what you think the economists in government really know what they are doing with all the ridiculous bubbles they inflate?

    • @empemitheos
      @empemitheos 4 роки тому +1

      @@TremendousSax then vote for Trump

  • @SchmidtyFilms
    @SchmidtyFilms 4 роки тому +4

    Jonathan Haidt did not describe libertarians as the most rationalistic and least empathetic. He categorized them based on their value of liberty and a definition of fairness that differs from the leftist idea of fair of being more focused on equal outcomes.

  • @JeromePowellsleftnut
    @JeromePowellsleftnut 11 місяців тому

    Murray Rothbard, Ron Paul, Tom Woods. That’s all you need to understand the libertarian perspective.

  • @berniekitching7668
    @berniekitching7668 4 роки тому +5

    Libertarianism is really what built America. Life being lived, and society being built, by agreements between men with limited government influence. Sadly these ideas are out dated and no longer work due to the incredible power of corporations. When an agreement is made between a person and a corporation the humanity that gave libertarianism it's power (and human decency) was lost. Signing off on the iTunes or Facebook user agreements destroyed the handshake agreements made between people who live in your community. Society has scaled up so large that very little is built and agreed upon by people who live within 40 miles of you as it was in the building of America.

  • @mitsuracer87
    @mitsuracer87 4 роки тому +13

    Libertarian for life 🤙🤙

  • @flynnparish9833
    @flynnparish9833 4 роки тому +5

    If we get Henry Cavill to run for president as the libertarian candidate and Maggot Robbie as his V.P or vise versa, then maybe we have a chance. Otherwise, it is an uphill battle. Election is mainly a popularity contest while good policies matter holds a distant second... and the libertarian party is all about policies.

  • @rodrigotellom
    @rodrigotellom 3 роки тому +2

    Michael's anarchism looks very similar to libertarianism.

    • @ProtomanButCallMeBlues
      @ProtomanButCallMeBlues 3 роки тому +2

      It's the same only dosed with steroids. You'll find that Anarchists don't like Libertarians because they don't for far enough. Libertarians don't like anarchists because they think they're crazy and will devolve into warlord states.

  • @tkrpclips8363
    @tkrpclips8363 4 роки тому +8

    Lex I love you bro lol😭💪🏻💪🏻

  • @chrisshepherd8708
    @chrisshepherd8708 2 роки тому

    What about defending the policies and not the party? I think it's time that we combine all forces of third parties into one party of things that we have in common for policies. And once we win a presidential election we can then squabble between each other about the other issues that we disagree upon. My .02😎

  • @matthewck1370
    @matthewck1370 4 роки тому +6

    Thumbs up. However, lots of problems with libertarianism. I would like to see him debate libertarianism with Sam Seder.

    • @kyleledermann2473
      @kyleledermann2473 4 роки тому +7

      Sam is a master straw man arguer which is easy to pull off when there's nobody opposite you.

    • @Adtrevino37
      @Adtrevino37 3 роки тому +1

      @@michaels7159 Compared to what? What we have now? Socialism? Marxism? Fascism? What ideology can you genuinely compare side-by-side to the ideals of Libertarianism and come to the conclusion 'Yeah, Libertarianism is obviously dogshit'?

    • @robinsss
      @robinsss 2 роки тому

      what are it's problems?

    • @cv4809
      @cv4809 2 роки тому

      @@Adtrevino37 compared to centrism

  • @rockead77
    @rockead77 4 роки тому +50

    Libertarian ideas? Ideal. Libertarian party? Complete joke.

    • @rootfit
      @rootfit 3 роки тому

      @@diegotobaski9801 nice!

  • @adelinaquijano1083
    @adelinaquijano1083 Рік тому

    My team getting stress I walk away

  • @faceofdead
    @faceofdead 4 роки тому +8

    Everyone is Libertarian in the core.

    • @mattizzle81
      @mattizzle81 3 роки тому +2

      Not everyone. Some people really do hate gays, etc and want to snoop in their bedroom 😂

  • @markmenning1804
    @markmenning1804 3 роки тому +2

    Is the same as anarchism?

    • @Adtrevino37
      @Adtrevino37 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, and no. All anarchists are libertarians, but not all libertarians are anarchists.

  • @LaVerita09
    @LaVerita09 2 роки тому

    have on Dave Smith

  • @philmccracken1392
    @philmccracken1392 3 роки тому

    Libertarian party is love

  • @edithseichter4857
    @edithseichter4857 4 роки тому +12

    "The new fascism will come under the cloak of freedom." George Orwell
    The economic anarchy of capitalism is the Root of the Evil." Albert Einstein

    • @averageguy2451
      @averageguy2451 4 роки тому

      @@georgew1857 why is that?

    • @edithseichter4857
      @edithseichter4857 4 роки тому

      @@georgew1857 no, Einstein is superior in every way, you are the imbecile, the selfish idiot, I Pitty you, you money slave, you slave of the senses.

    • @edithseichter4857
      @edithseichter4857 4 роки тому

      @@georgew1857 money is nothing but passive violence. It is backed by force and would otherwise be useless as it couldn't be enforced. There is no objective notion of value. Value is the subjective delusion of the darwinistic organism as it evaluates it's survival chances.

    • @TomAZ1984
      @TomAZ1984 4 роки тому +2

      Edith Seichter do you watch Big Bang Theory?

    • @edithseichter4857
      @edithseichter4857 4 роки тому

      @@TomAZ1984 no

  • @thewhat531
    @thewhat531 4 роки тому +2

    Read Emma Goldman "on patriotism"

  • @TheOptimisticCommunist
    @TheOptimisticCommunist 3 роки тому

    The party as vehicle for education is not a libertarian idea...its a leninist one..albeit the party would be vying for elections if possible and when elected would become a military organ.

  • @kylesanders8276
    @kylesanders8276 2 роки тому

    These 2 look related, or are the same person separated by a couple decades of time.

  • @Marc_Sola
    @Marc_Sola 2 роки тому +3

    I understand why very wealthy people lean libertarian. Get rid of regulation and a social safety net, get rid of public schools then there won’t be a need to take taxes. But undoubtedly a libertarian government would increase wealth inequality. This is documented in history, the gilded age is one example that proves that regulation is necessary. Not all regulation is good, but no regulation is a dangerous idealism that will decrease the quality of life for the majority.

    • @tray-oq1nj
      @tray-oq1nj Рік тому

      Everyone should take care of their own. Nothing worse than seeing a huge sheboon with a pack of dindus pushing a buggy overflowing to the register only to produce a card that our taxes pay.

  • @wiscgaloot
    @wiscgaloot 4 роки тому +4

    In 1969 Lake Erie was so polluted it was considered dead forever. The Cuyahoga river regularly caught fire. The Libertarian solution? Let the free market take care of it.

    • @Adtrevino37
      @Adtrevino37 3 роки тому +1

      So you're admitting that even with the regulations in place bad shit still happened. I'm shocked!

    • @wiscgaloot
      @wiscgaloot 3 роки тому +1

      @@Adtrevino37 there were no regulations in place, doofus.

    • @wiscgaloot
      @wiscgaloot 3 роки тому +1

      @@bcshu2 that was utter nonsense. The market did not fix Lake Erie. That's a simple fact. The market is utter crap.

  • @nevertime1246
    @nevertime1246 2 роки тому

    #SharpeJorgensen2024

  • @wiscgaloot
    @wiscgaloot 4 роки тому +4

    Libertarianism is the political philosophy of a spoiled rich 13 year old kid who thinks he personally earned every toy he has and the house he lives in. Or a cat, that believes it is completely independent and self-sufficient, when in reality it is utterly dependent on the people around it for survival.

    • @Adtrevino37
      @Adtrevino37 3 роки тому +3

      That's funny. Your understanding of Libertarianism resembles that of a 4 year old's understanding of quantum physics.

    • @wiscgaloot
      @wiscgaloot 3 роки тому +1

      @@Adtrevino37 no, I understand it quite well. It's complete bunk. And I had to keep my explanation simple--so that any Libertarian could understand it.

    • @Adtrevino37
      @Adtrevino37 3 роки тому +2

      @@wiscgaloot lol it's cute how right you think you are. The dunning-kruger effect is strong you.

    • @wiscgaloot
      @wiscgaloot 3 роки тому

      @@Adtrevino37 name a sucessful libertarian country. Oops, you lose. Look up what happened to Grafton NH when Libertarians took it over. Oops, you lose again. You're freaking hilarious. It's fun to mock you idiots.

    • @Adtrevino37
      @Adtrevino37 3 роки тому +1

      @@wiscgaloot Oh, Kelly. You'll develop a brain some day. Give it time.

  • @TheOptimisticCommunist
    @TheOptimisticCommunist 3 роки тому +1

    Also the hardleft was wary of police far before the term libertarian was approriated by the right...malice is posting cringe

  • @alexsveles343
    @alexsveles343 Рік тому

    I like the libertarian party. Nobody has 5he right t9 decide what you take...tea drug or coff3.
    Drugs are the best antidepressants we know of btw.Wny waste billions on the useless junk the pharmaceutical companies experiment whit.

  • @mikemckelvey5062
    @mikemckelvey5062 4 роки тому

    When the civil war happens... As a lib... I will eat all of you. You turds think guns are going to protect you. This isn't 1886. Do your civil war stuff....

  • @zirene5237
    @zirene5237 4 роки тому +1

    I think the social ideas that libertarian espouse are good. The economic ideas are a disaster. No regulation is a terrible idea. The small amount of regulation we have now, not enough, has lead to the richest getting fabulously richer and richer. Unrestrained capitalism is not something that is a good idea.

    • @Nanofuture87
      @Nanofuture87 4 роки тому +7

      You say that as if the richest getting fabulously richer and richer is inherently bad. What actually happens is that the ultra-wealthy lobbies the government to get regulations favorable to themselves, pushing out competition and giving themselves public funds.

    • @Palash_aar_Putush
      @Palash_aar_Putush 2 роки тому

      @@Nanofuture87 even without lobbying ultra rich can dumb competition with their deep pockets such as what Amazon is doing by slashing their prices till they capture the market

    • @Nanofuture87
      @Nanofuture87 2 роки тому +1

      @@Palash_aar_Putush Amazon legitimately innovated, that's how they were able to get to where they are today. Bezos was not an ultra wealthy individual before starting Amazon and Amazon is not operating at a loss, it makes billions in profit. Anyway, so-called predatory pricing is an irrational strategy. It's risky in the first place and even if you succeed, then what? Either you can continue offering low prices, which benefits the consumer, or you can raise prices, which invites competition to reenter the market.

    • @Palash_aar_Putush
      @Palash_aar_Putush 2 роки тому

      @@Nanofuture87 companies are not built in a day. All big companies are sitting with heaps of cash with no idea what to do with it. Capitalism does not create innovation in long term.

    • @Nanofuture87
      @Nanofuture87 2 роки тому +1

      @@Palash_aar_Putush Uncertainty is the reason anyone holds cash. If we always knew what we were going to do with complete certainty, cash would disappear from the economy. The notion that capitalism does not create innovation in the long term is simply false. Innovation is constantly occurring, the world is not static, preferences are not fixed.

  • @jamessam1930
    @jamessam1930 3 роки тому

    I liked Micheal malice until he quoted friends

  • @EKDupre
    @EKDupre 4 роки тому +1

    Libertarians- because there aren't enough selfish people in our world.

    • @reysteinke6296
      @reysteinke6296 4 роки тому +6

      Yes because it's selfish, not to steal someone's else income to pay what I think the government should do .