7:17 "Magnus and I found the same move..... And it's a blunder" It's okay Antonio, you and Magnus are so beyond everyone else in terms of skill that like Tal, every move you make could technically be a blunder but the position is so complicated it doesn't matter and you win
It's always hard to judge whether something is a blunder based on engine recommendations. Because it's only a blunder if your opponent plays engine moves. The algorhitm should include the complexity of the counterplay as a weight to judge whether something is a blunder.
It is written that Lasker, after his foe spent quite some time analyzing prior to making a Knight Sac, instantly played a move which did not accept the Sac. He said if my foe spent so much time analyzing it then it may well have been a good move so why should I accept it? Seems like Arjun took Magnus at his word when he played Bh4 and failed to analyze deeply when it really matter. Spassky once said that every game has a critical moment when you should think deeply. The problem being no one knows exactly which moment is the critical one.
Makes sense honestly. I'm only a low intermediate player (1350-1400) but even to me its clear that Arjun has the most balanced overall game out of him, Vidit, Pragg, and Gukesh
3:26 Love your channel! Just wondering, why wouldn't black's bishop capture white's pawn on e5? Is it because it opens up the e3 bishop to push to h6 and deny the pawn development? Thank you for the great videos
it seems like Magnus had the position closed and locked down very early on. for arjun, it didn't seem like there was ever a good way to break through. magnus makes it look easy. perhaps it's his otherworldly endgame skills that put him above the rest. he simply know when to trade down and when to hold. a wise chess player once told me that once you have a good grasp of the endgame, the beginning and middlegame make much more sense and become more intuitive. I tend to avoid complex tactics myself and instead I usually go for simple trades that lead to a favorable endgame for me. it doesnt always work, but the endgame is where I'm strongest. I've ended up in many king and pawn endgame where the opponent offers a draw and I refuse because I see a long term plan where my passed pawn will promote before they will or something like that. chess is hard, but magnus makes it look easy
Very good advice. I remember when I was younger, I was very good at calculation and calculating different lines, but I didn't know which of the positions that I calculated to was the best one. There's a term used for this, horizon effect or something? Except in very obvious cases like where I was up a piece, it was just so exasperating to spend so much mental energy and yet ultimately not really knowing which line or position was "better". I know chess engines do have some ways of crudely assigning values to a position, but the horizon effect was the biggest stumbling block and biggest source of frustration for me. That is, until I did what you did and started to master the endgame. It is difficult to articulate in words how greatly it transformed not only how I play chess but how I think about chess. I think everyone starts off thinking about chess "forwards", but the combinations become so overwhelming so quickly that it is not feasible. You can only really think about chess "backwards" i.e mastering the endgame and then trying to break down your midgame into an endgame that you know you can win or at least understand. Even the theory of many endgames is bewilderingly complex and for me required hours upon hours of study and so knowing a line in your midgame disintergrates into an endgame you have seen before is so gratifying and reassuring. It is like being able to know several moves in advance without having to expend mental energy calculating it. It helped me surmount the "horizon effect" that so impaired my game. Sorry if I didn't explain this very well but in short I have the exact same experience as you!
They should do a blind tournament, where the players in the tournament aren't announced, and the players themselves don't know who they're playing against. And then, only when the tournament ends, are all the match ups revealed.
@@WorldofWar ... I'm not the one complaining about spoilers, you are. But to satiate your curiosity, I followed the game live, so I can open comments alongside the video with no issues. But back to you.
while watching this video I also thought about bh4, because it feels kinda comfortable to play. then you told that you were thinking about the same move too while watching the game live. to me, it doesn't matter if it's a blunder or not, it felt great, and made my day a whole lot better. can't wait to tell this story to my friends in the bar
This was a complete one side final. Seems Arjun is tired after the non stop games going into blitz in previous two rounds. Magnus was simply awesome. He is unbeatable
At 4:55 I would played differently: pown g4 announce an attack on king side. I would have brought Ta8 to d8 and then the knight g7 to e4 (a kind of gambit,Kasparov style :-) 25September 2022
You are right, Antonio, Arjun spoted this (g5!) but he dismissed. It is the Magnus effect, happens many times: to much respect and players underperform. Magnus himself admitted this in a recent interview, and is a known fact that Anand underperformed against Kasparov in the nineties
Arjun said in the post-game interview that missing 23. ...g5 was frustrating. He said he did look at the move but decided (probably because of the Magnus effect (which also affects Magnus himself occasionally where players like Niemann have forced him to make weak moves)) not to play it. I don't get why anyone would reject a freeing move like that?>?
looks like carlsens opening was very well prepared up to the beginning endgame and everything went well for his tactics. maybe erigaisi was a bit nervous or shy too. carlsen is a running database for openings and midgame, hard to outwit that.
at 3:22, antonio says that capuring the night would be bad. but, it is attacked by bishop and knight, wich could win a panw. y is it a bad move then???
in italian the ch is definitely more like a "k" sound so your pronounciation of fianchetto was correct before in this video its actually wrong, even though everybody pronounces it like this
you can, but that will just open up the center completely and with White having the 2 bishops and rook already on the center open file, that is just a better position for white.
Arjun probably thought about it but he saw the f file open up and probably thought with Magnus that can be dangerous and wanted to keep all closed but eventually couldn't as pieces would get sacked and when Magnus sacs or pretty much majority GM's it's pretty much over.
@@ayushaggarwal906 huh? I don't know who you are. I don't know hindi but I understand what you are saying. What competition do you mean? I mean I didn't comment in agad for a very long time lol.
incredibly those extremely strong players can make quite obvious mistakes especially the last move of the black rock. probably I am wrong I can't really play chess, never learned it, don't play much. anyone can suggest really good books for beginners?
Think why humans don't consider the pawn push while machines do is because humans are by default more risk adverse. Why weaken the structure there? It's too risky. So you don't calculate further it's a nah not that one. Might be a compute issue aswell since time passes while calculating for humans while the time needed for the machine is a neglectable factor. Would they find it in a longer time format? Probably. Interesting in any case.
If you and Magnus played the same move, it doesn't mean you played a great move, it means Magnus blundered 😂
That's really funny. I look forward to that kind of blunder please! Hahahah
I laughed too hard at that 🤣
😂😂
🤣🤣 us mortals lose on our blunders
Not necessarily.
7:17 "Magnus and I found the same move..... And it's a blunder"
It's okay Antonio, you and Magnus are so beyond everyone else in terms of skill that like Tal, every move you make could technically be a blunder but the position is so complicated it doesn't matter and you win
It's always hard to judge whether something is a blunder based on engine recommendations. Because it's only a blunder if your opponent plays engine moves. The algorhitm should include the complexity of the counterplay as a weight to judge whether something is a blunder.
😅 This is Savage, but so true
The same reason we love Ivanchuk. Legend moves. Occasional nuclear blunder.
@@daarom3472 in some cases. In mine, its generally PxQ+. Not that difficult to assess as a blunder.....
@@timanderson6005 That’s always said easier than done. Being in the moment is different than being chilled and watching a YT video.
Kudos to Antonio for uploading videos consistently and timely
he rules :D we love u agad
Thank you
Legend
*game ends* 30 seconds later "Hello everyone!"
Literally 😑😂😂😂
This video is for game 1, the one that just ended was game 2
Now you've motivated me to stay back and watch all of it.
Hahahah castles castles
I actually watched this live on UA-cam and not 10 minutes later I refreshed and there was the recap lol
And the "prodigy" faces the ultimate "prodigy test".
Guy is just too OP
"I don't always play the same moves as Magnus but when I do, they're imprecisions" _ Agadmator as the most interesting man in the world, probably
It is written that Lasker, after his foe spent quite some time analyzing prior to making a Knight Sac, instantly played a move which did not accept the Sac. He said if my foe spent so much time analyzing it then it may well have been a good move so why should I accept it? Seems like Arjun took Magnus at his word when he played Bh4 and failed to analyze deeply when it really matter. Spassky once said that every game has a critical moment when you should think deeply. The problem being no one knows exactly which moment is the critical one.
Magnus just doing that Magnus thing.....A masterpiece by Magnus...... 👍.
Magnus is playing some insanely great chess!
Hans still owns magnus lol
@@TikTokery cheater lol
Yes! I marvel at 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4
1-0
Magnus' chess speak for itself
@@TikTokery magnus is his dad
Magnus just won a crazy game two as well, this is going to be an interesting final!
Thanks!
Arjun said in the interview that he considered g5 at 8:42, but he didn't go for it. he probably didn't see the whole thing
I think it is psychological... the famous Magnus effect
Anand had said that Arjun is India’s greatest young talent. That means a lot.
Makes sense honestly. I'm only a low intermediate player (1350-1400) but even to me its clear that Arjun has the most balanced overall game out of him, Vidit, Pragg, and Gukesh
3:26 Love your channel! Just wondering, why wouldn't black's bishop capture white's pawn on e5? Is it because it opens up the e3 bishop to push to h6 and deny the pawn development? Thank you for the great videos
Magnus' chess speaks for itself
the taste to watch the final had gone while arjun qualify to the final...
n Magnus showed why!!!
The first Image is great idea to show befor every chess game. Because we understand what is going on.
"Always keep in mind the possibilty of pawn to B4" (10.15). It seems I've heard that before somewhere ...
it seems like Magnus had the position closed and locked down very early on. for arjun, it didn't seem like there was ever a good way to break through. magnus makes it look easy. perhaps it's his otherworldly endgame skills that put him above the rest. he simply know when to trade down and when to hold. a wise chess player once told me that once you have a good grasp of the endgame, the beginning and middlegame make much more sense and become more intuitive. I tend to avoid complex tactics myself and instead I usually go for simple trades that lead to a favorable endgame for me. it doesnt always work, but the endgame is where I'm strongest. I've ended up in many king and pawn endgame where the opponent offers a draw and I refuse because I see a long term plan where my passed pawn will promote before they will or something like that. chess is hard, but magnus makes it look easy
Very good advice. I remember when I was younger, I was very good at calculation and calculating different lines, but I didn't know which of the positions that I calculated to was the best one. There's a term used for this, horizon effect or something? Except in very obvious cases like where I was up a piece, it was just so exasperating to spend so much mental energy and yet ultimately not really knowing which line or position was "better". I know chess engines do have some ways of crudely assigning values to a position, but the horizon effect was the biggest stumbling block and biggest source of frustration for me. That is, until I did what you did and started to master the endgame.
It is difficult to articulate in words how greatly it transformed not only how I play chess but how I think about chess. I think everyone starts off thinking about chess "forwards", but the combinations become so overwhelming so quickly that it is not feasible. You can only really think about chess "backwards" i.e mastering the endgame and then trying to break down your midgame into an endgame that you know you can win or at least understand. Even the theory of many endgames is bewilderingly complex and for me required hours upon hours of study and so knowing a line in your midgame disintergrates into an endgame you have seen before is so gratifying and reassuring. It is like being able to know several moves in advance without having to expend mental energy calculating it. It helped me surmount the "horizon effect" that so impaired my game. Sorry if I didn't explain this very well but in short I have the exact same experience as you!
Agad I'm expecting the next remaining game to be explosive as well. It would be funny if you had to upload another one to cover that one
They should do a blind tournament, where the players in the tournament aren't announced, and the players themselves don't know who they're playing against. And then, only when the tournament ends, are all the match ups revealed.
13:22
*EXTRA ordinary move played by white king*
😂😂😂😂😂😊😊 Did u see that???
Yeah, Antonio's enthusiasm got the better of him! 😂😂
11:51
Oh ya, Magnus did that Chessable course "Annihilating your opponent without losing any pieces. "
Magnus has made such an impact in chess world, only engines can spot an error if he deliberately chooses to make one.
Magnus is a prodigy himself that never ages
@@somebody700 lol, who cares
@@somebody700 I smell hater/ignorant here
Arjun always plays his game,and gets beaten sometimes. But he gets updated and change his own game
12:47 For a split second I was like "BEGAHHH THE QUEEN" until I realized the pin lmao
I love your amazing work Antonio 💞
The initial queenside attack/defend when converted to the king side lost me entirely. Great game to study and learn with agadmator's commentary.
I hate when people write in the comments who won the game. Spoils a good victory as Magnus edges even closer to 2900.
Why would you read comments before watching the video, knowing the comments are going to discuss the game?
Does he come closer to 2900 classical rating, when winning in rapid?
@@dodekaedius Yes, he hits 2900 if he wins all 3 games.
@@TheWolfnman But you read the commentary before watching the full game.
@@WorldofWar ... I'm not the one complaining about spoilers, you are.
But to satiate your curiosity, I followed the game live, so I can open comments alongside the video with no issues.
But back to you.
Defeats yet another prodigy best title just goat 🐐 stuff
Bro I just left the stream and I see the recap from an hour ago lol
while watching this video I also thought about bh4, because it feels kinda comfortable to play. then you told that you were thinking about the same move too while watching the game live. to me, it doesn't matter if it's a blunder or not, it felt great, and made my day a whole lot better. can't wait to tell this story to my friends in the bar
This was a complete one side final. Seems Arjun is tired after the non stop games going into blitz in previous two rounds. Magnus was simply awesome. He is unbeatable
13:22 "Knight captures, (grabs King) *ROOK* captures" 😂😂😂
Both of them played awesomely !
I heard good advices and nice story Today and saw amazing game.
At 4:55 I would played differently: pown g4 announce an attack on king side. I would have brought Ta8 to d8 and then the knight g7 to e4 (a kind of gambit,Kasparov style :-) 25September 2022
13:22 King:
I feel Power 🌀
This kinda reminds me of those Tal games where Tal's opponent would have that *one* opportunity to turn the tables but if he missed it ... #DeadMeat
I think Agad should do a thesis on why b4 is the strongest move in chess! Lol
the best chess channel in the whole world.
Shocking to see Magnus play a move most of the world would have played, including Agadmator😳
You are right, Antonio, Arjun spoted this (g5!) but he dismissed. It is the Magnus effect, happens many times: to much respect and players underperform. Magnus himself admitted this in a recent interview, and is a known fact that Anand underperformed against Kasparov in the nineties
Arjun said in the post-game interview that missing 23. ...g5 was frustrating. He said he did look at the move but decided (probably because of the Magnus effect (which also affects Magnus himself occasionally where players like Niemann have forced him to make weak moves)) not to play it. I don't get why anyone would reject a freeing move like that?>?
looks like carlsens opening was very well prepared up to the beginning endgame and everything went well for his tactics. maybe erigaisi was a bit nervous or shy too. carlsen is a running database for openings and midgame, hard to outwit that.
13:22
the white king: I almost lost my cool there
9:37 the first pawn to be captured of the game...yeah 😬
Just curious, how do you know when a new game is reached?
Agadmator's hello everyone is saved permanently in my brain's database
Love when agad say «hello everyone!»😂
Magnus squeezed Arjun from the get go and squashed with a sacrifice
He won a crazy game two as well!
So…if not bishop to h4 what would be the winning move??
What a game. Magnus is just in a league of his own. The rest are trying to catch up! Who can annul such brutal attack?
I saw magnus play poker. Dude was good at poker too. Amazing dude.
Vicious battle. Love it
at 3:22, antonio says that capuring the night would be bad.
but, it is attacked by bishop and knight, wich could win a panw. y is it a bad move then???
in italian the ch is definitely more like a "k" sound
so your pronounciation of fianchetto was correct before
in this video its actually wrong, even though everybody pronounces it like this
15:35 "I would never find this of course"-- brutally honest
What is an engine move? How to check it?
Magnus is just head and shoulders above everybody else.
Wow guessing Magnus's next move .that's like a real time pause the moment
I found g5 and all continuations
I'M PROUD OF MYSELF
Omg i found the pawn move and right after did calculations for knight d4 to see if that was it, turns out it was both, i feel kinda good ngl!
8:50 , yeah I also feel the same , pressure got the better of him . Regardless he gave a tough fight to magnus
3:21 Why can't you just capture the pawn with the bishop?
you can, but that will just open up the center completely and with White having the 2 bishops and rook already on the center open file, that is just a better position for white.
This is a rare moment when I can say I saw the move immediately. Probably bc all other options (that I could see) were bad
plays the move you thought was good, turns out to be a blunder
we've all been there agad
all my moves are blunders but for some reason i win some games. I am the Jar Jar of Chess.
@@hirotakasugi4891 lol I’m the same way sometimes but it’s probably cuz I’m low rating
Anyone noticed how Hans Nieman looks like the villain boy from The Incredibles?
I always thought that I've seen him somewhere before. Now i know where. 😂
😳🤯
I like arjun because he is the only indian who is not overproud of himself.
he is just happy to play.
#suggestion Game 2 of Magnus vs Arjun
Why R5 to g4 is only wining move???! you did not explain that
How is it possible that Magnus could miss all these B4 tactics? Is he challenging himself?
Arjun probably thought about it but he saw the f file open up and probably thought with Magnus that can be dangerous and wanted to keep all closed but eventually couldn't as pieces would get sacked and when Magnus sacs or pretty much majority GM's it's pretty much over.
Agadmator, you just need to get your rating up near Magnus' and then it would be a great move for you too.
Magnus forever
. Great Game! Magnus is truly the Master!
even magnus's blunders are winning moves 🤣
Magnus is something else
How many CPUs does Agadmator use to break down any game???????????
Some creative moves!!!
why can’t you capture the e5 pawn and win a piece
8:59 The strongest move was knight G9
Only if I would have been able to take time from busy schedule and taught Arjun chess ,he would have won 😁
16:25 learned a lot from it 😂😂😂 lol
Bhai tum competishun se ho kya?
@@ayushaggarwal906 huh? I don't know who you are. I don't know hindi but I understand what you are saying. What competition do you mean? I mean I didn't comment in agad for a very long time lol.
@@spiralfireball8663 okk i thought you were someone else
A fellow mate from champ batch
Sorry for inconvience
@@ayushaggarwal906 Ok
incredibly those extremely strong players can make quite obvious mistakes especially the last move of the black rock. probably I am wrong I can't really play chess, never learned it, don't play much. anyone can suggest really good books for beginners?
Pation of the dog is appreciable.
When Agadmator says "I checked the engine", which engine is he making reference to?
i would assume stockfish
@@pascaltomasovic3586 Like, which version?
Hans
#suggestion
Match 1 game 2
Arjun Vs Carlsen
You cn see why a thums up for pragg even when he drew....it's very hard to fend magnus off
7:04 I guessed the move ...g5 but i didn't know what to do next 😂
It is amazing how Arjun kept his queen locked safely and tricked Carlsen to deploy all his forces to the black king.
@@dixiewarrior6102 tf's funny here?
@@dummy9517 cause arjun lost lol
Invention by agad BRUTAL CAPTURE FEST !! 😂😜
Great Moves Power Chess Game Good Attack by Magnus
I look at the middle game thinking what the hell should i do here😭
I love the quote.
Arjun must play without fear otherwise he is doomed
Just hoping Arjun wins atleast one game tomorrow
Think why humans don't consider the pawn push while machines do is because humans are by default more risk adverse.
Why weaken the structure there? It's too risky. So you don't calculate further it's a nah not that one. Might be a compute issue aswell since time passes while calculating for humans while the time needed for the machine is a neglectable factor.
Would they find it in a longer time format? Probably.
Interesting in any case.
Bh4 g5, Nxd7? - if Rxd7 Bxg5, if gxh4 Ne5 - looks fine for white. Maybe Magnus and Agadmator are not that bad?