Helping you with the integral of 1/(x^2*(x^2+1)^(3/2)) using trigonometric substitution, Calculus 2

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  • @kingbeauregard
    @kingbeauregard 6 днів тому +14

    About the "+ C", maybe teach from early days that the solution to every antiderivative has two parts: the homogeneous solution and the particular solution. For antiderivatives, the homogeneous solution is always "C", since it answers the question: "what, if we take the derivative of it, is always zero?" But we're typically more interested in the particular solution, so we spend all our time working on just the particular solution. At the very end, the complete answer is the sum of the particular solution and the homogeneous solution, and THAT is why we include the "+ C" only at the end.

    • @MikehMike01
      @MikehMike01 5 днів тому +1

      Telling students to only put +C at the end implies it’s wrong to put them earlier… if you want to be technical, the integrals along the way could be +C1 +C2 etc. and the final answer +Cn… I think that should help people understand better

    • @kingbeauregard
      @kingbeauregard 5 днів тому

      @@MikehMike01 I'm thinking more, let's be clear about what we're doing: we're focusing on finding the particular solution, and only adding in the homogeneous solution at the very end. Then it's not just a matter of completeness vs sloppiness, it's a deliberate, mathematically justified approach.
      It will also make things feel real familiar when you get to differential equations.

    • @blueslime5855
      @blueslime5855 4 дні тому

      ​@@MikehMike01they are just the same constant though since you aren't adding anything to them no? You simply transformed the equation. I believe you only change the constant if you have some kind of constant like 1 leftover which is redundant to keep

    • @MikehMike01
      @MikehMike01 4 дні тому

      @@blueslime5855 they are arbitrary integers which sum to another arbitrary integer

  • @ThePowerfulOne07
    @ThePowerfulOne07 5 днів тому +7

    My calculus professor once said that Calculus is 90% algebra/geometry/trig and you only learn 10% of actual calculus. Still amazes me to this day!

    • @kingbeauregard
      @kingbeauregard 5 днів тому +1

      The way my high school calculus teacher put it, most calculus problems are just one line of calculus and the rest is algebra. Of course that was beginning calculus, but the concept holds.

    • @ThePowerfulOne07
      @ThePowerfulOne07 4 дні тому +1

      @@kingbeauregard yes it does

  • @AverageCommentor
    @AverageCommentor 5 днів тому +4

    if you clean up the result at the end you'll get -(2x^2+1)/(x*sqrt(x^2+1)) + C

  • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
    @bjornfeuerbacher5514 6 днів тому +8

    Or "simply" use the substitution u = x/sqrt(x²+1), then you will arrive directly at the integral at 4:30. ;)

    • @kingbeauregard
      @kingbeauregard 6 днів тому +4

      Not really a strategy you can teach though.

    • @alex_ramjiawan
      @alex_ramjiawan 6 днів тому

      Explain please.

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 6 днів тому

      @@alex_ramjiawan Explain how I got that idea? Or explain how to do the calculation?

    • @alex_ramjiawan
      @alex_ramjiawan 6 днів тому +1

      ​@@bjornfeuerbacher5514 The calculation with your substitution.

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 5 днів тому

      @@alex_ramjiawan First, solving u = x/sqrt(x²+1) for x², you get x² = u²/(1-u²). Second, using the quotient rule, you get du/dx = 1/sqrt(x²+1)³. Putting both results into the original integral transforms it into the integral (1-u²)/u² du.

  • @d-hat-vr2002
    @d-hat-vr2002 4 дні тому

    In order to have the integrand after the x = tan θ substitution represent the same function as the original integrand, we can notice that the domain of the original integrand is all x ∉ 0. Constraining the allowable values of θ to -π/2 < θ < π/2 ∉ 0 gives the same range of y values.
    In other words, the integrand written at 1:41 has the same area under curve as the original integrand, but with the domain -π/2 < θ < π/2 ∉ 0.
    For the multiplication of powers at 2:02 to be correct, the base (sec θ in this case) must be positive, which it is in this question since sec θ is positive over the whole interval -π/2 < θ < π/2 ∉ 0. On the other hand, this would not be correct if the substitution x = tan θ were made under the assumption that the new domain would be 0 < θ < π .

  • @eboaly
    @eboaly 6 днів тому +3

    ur videos carried my math grade thank you so much🙏🙏🙏

  • @Mediterranean81
    @Mediterranean81 4 дні тому

    1/x*sqrt(x^2+1) + c

  • @bachvaroff
    @bachvaroff 5 днів тому

    Forget'bout trig's, substitute $1 + x^2 = t^2 x^2 \\ x^2 = \frac{1}{t^2 - 1} \\ x^{-2} + 1 = t^2 \\ -2 x^{-3} dx = 2t dt$ etc. etc. 🙂

  • @r1ckthe
    @r1ckthe 6 днів тому +2

    can you help me doing the integral of v(arctanv) dv ?? pls i need help

    • @cyrusyeung8096
      @cyrusyeung8096 6 днів тому +2

      Try integration by parts (differentiate arctan(v) and integrate v)

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 6 днів тому +1

      Is this supposed to mean v times the arctan of v? Strange use of parentheses. :/

    • @r1ckthe
      @r1ckthe 5 днів тому +1

      @@bjornfeuerbacher5514 yep, varctanv dv

    • @bprpcalculusbasics
      @bprpcalculusbasics  5 днів тому +4

      I got you, ua-cam.com/video/iaDrbWG0zDo/v-deo.html

  • @leonardobarrera2816
    @leonardobarrera2816 5 днів тому +2

    How I can ask?
    Plz BPRP, answer me

  • @MikehMike01
    @MikehMike01 5 днів тому +1

    No one uses threads lmao dead app

  • @Mephisto707
    @Mephisto707 5 днів тому +3

    Forget threads man, nobody is there, go X and support free speech.

  • @nakoiz4851
    @nakoiz4851 6 днів тому

    could you use u=secθ for 2:30